The trouble is, Alex Belfield never uttered a word of a lie did he? Whereas all he wanted Jeremy Vine to do was to admit his wrongdoing over the £1000 that was illegally given to charity (as it was later found out - but could have gone anywhere including the local offie to buy booze). No man should be put in jail for telling the truth - full stop.
OK I know little of this case but if he has knowledge and believe tbis is true I would think appropriate action is to make a report to police ..to the charity...or proper authority that deals in such matters...a tweet or two to the public stating what actions he took would be appropriate. If you are giving out addresses ..a continued bombardment, then perhaps alex crossed the line?
Blimey, sounds like you have been hooked in by Belfield as well. This is what the judge found with regard the £1000. "The allegations you made against Mr Vine were wholly false. You boasted online about the fact that in excess of 400,000 people had viewed your video about Mr Vine containing these false allegations. Your assertions in your videos and tweets that your allegation was supported by BBC answers to Freedom of Information Requests was also wholly false. They provided no support, as was revealed at trial. You were not a whistle-blower in any sense but developed a fixation with pursuing Mr Vine with a campaign of abuse." Further to this, Mr Vine took out a civil action, Belfield apologised and paid substantial damages.
@@gmo4250 From the evidence I heard, this was a total stitch-up. Apologising, paying damages, and going to jail for 5 years.... Sounds like the verdict was rigged and had a dodgy judge...
@@rbee3936 What evidence did you hear and where did you hear it and who from? Why did you come to the conclusion it was a stitch up from a dodgy judge? It was a jury decision that dismissed 4 charges, but he was found guilty on the other 4 charges and of those 4 charges, 2 were partial sentences. With regard the £1000, it never went anywhere near Jeremy Vine and the FOI from the BBC proved that, Alex lied. The £1000 from the BBC went towards a memorial service for John Myers and was paid directly to the memorial service.
Exactly. Vine and the BBC have done more damage to many more people over the years for their LIES. Just look at the COVID EXCESS DEATHS THEY WON'T REPORT.
Amazing. Obviously Vine doesn't have a finger to press DELETE, nor does he have a BLOCK within his email account, clearly the only person in the World without one. Vine, like the others, just LOVE reading about themselves irrespective of the content.
Perhaps if you enjoy reading so much and are that interested in this case, you might want to read the sentencing report from the judge to gain a fuller insight into Alex Belfield’s behaviour. www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
You do realise that you can’t block a stalker. Belfield set up other accounts and carried on stalking and harassing his victims even though they blocked him. When he couldn’t get to them, he contacted their families instead or got his moronic followers to harass his victims by proxy. Suggest you research before commenting as you clearly know nothing about this case.
@@Tad1945 Yes, it’s true that many of Belfield’s videos are still out there as he often told his followers to copy and share his videos. He may have taken them down from his own RUclips channel, but many can still be viewed outside the UK or via a VPN connection. Truth Checkers has been exposing Belfield for around 3 years along with many others on Twitter and RUclips. The problem with obsessed stalkers is that they themselves cannot switch off or be avoided. Belfield also lied to his followers and conned them out of money. Many of these people were poor, vulnerable and pensioners. He was a vile despicable conman. People are only doing what Belfield did to many others and are making money out of him. Good for them! 👏
Belfield kept creating new accounts, he was impossible to block, but that's not the point. He was asked to stop on numerous occasions, he chose not to. There's only one person to blame for his prison sentence and that is Belfield.
@@rbee3936 are you still here? You do know that Belfield admitted he lied about Vine. So you need to take back everything you said. amp.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/20/jeremy-vine-stalker-alex-belfield-apologises-in-court-after-being-sued-over-abuse-campaign
Vine had to admit at the trial what he did with the £1,000 it WAS against BBC rules!! This is what Bellfield said all along! I think Vine should be held to account for his deliberate antagonistic actions against motorists just to get TV footage. I don't ever hear a good word said about Vine!!
What happens if Vines fans start harassing the car drivers he is regularly exposing? I can't really see a difference it may even be worse as Vine has a larger platform.
@@craigshannon6011 then I agree, Vine may be accountable, and those committing the offence would be responsible for their actions, and it would be up to the victim to make a complaint.
Were you afraid? Cleary a leading pre-emptive question. Sat with that smug grin all over his face. And as for Jeremy Vine calling anyone a coward, pure hypocrisy. And I'm not a fan of Bellend either.
I imagine Vine is suffering from some kind of childhood trauma. He must have been bullied terribly, and this has turned him into a complete prick who gets a sense of righteousness and victory from getting people into trouble. Belfield will be back out of prison one day, but Vine will always be a prick.
And what about me? And the other seven defendants that gave evidence against Belfield? Are we all pricks? Do you think we all suffered from childhood traumas that somehow caused Belfield to want to stalk us?
You clearly have no idea what he did. Educate yourself and read this (if you can read) These are the sentencing remarks from the case ‘R v Belfield’ detailing the full case: www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
@@diesel92kj1 you clearly can’t read! And clearly have been watching too many conspiracy videos that have warped your perception. In this case, which Belfield was found guilty of stalking four people, The judge clarified “I am not imposing sentences on you because you made comments about the BBC or about matters of public interest. Your sentences reflect your repeated and personal harassment of the victims and not your views on any issue of public interest. You are entitled to hold and express views but you are not entitled to destroy the personal lives of your victims through online harassment.” What do you not understand?
He is just awful human . I have heard the Jeremy on his radio show once what was his last breath like how did he died one despicable little man with a little push bike. 💯🇬🇧🇯🇲👍
IMO most social media is a cancer in society, there’s more negativity than positivity. Instagram seems ok and the only one worth using from my experience.
Too many British people get flattered at the amount of views if they appear on USA religious extremist RUclips channels, but all they're doing is bringing sick USA society where men and women dislike each other into Europe. Such as many USA women tell men they're disgusting if they haven't been cir'cised as a baby for non medical reasons, and some men grow up with issues for having that done, which they then spend a lot of time online trying to take out on women. Such as the USA man banned from entering some European countries for making websites encouraging men abuse women while travelling, or Andrew Tate. Or they go around chanting the word lefty as an insult for what actually USA capitalism causes. Such as how only the USA has a TV series for the child trans Jazz Jennings or only a USA magazine made Bruce Jenner woman of the year, and only the USA promotes melting pot societies to the rest of the world. While all actual left wing societies promote such as most countries in north Europe (except England) and Scandinavia, are socialised health care, not being greedy and getting into debt with credit cards and free or affordable university and not being obsessed with trashy, tacky talentless celebs, who are rich on society being dumbed down from admiring useless idiots, selling their children into the talentless celeb industry to use for their own attention.
I did block Belfield when he initially targeted me on Twitter. He then began to send me messages on Facebook, which I blocked. He then began emailing me. I did not respond. Then because I ignored his emails, Belfield began emailing my parents. He then found out my parent’s address and my mother’s phone number and called her. Stopping a serial stalker is far from easy, especially when the police and social media companies did nothing to stop him. Even now in prison Belfield is currently under investigation from the crown prosecution service for violating his restraining order, which is designed to protect me but hasn’t.
Debbie babe. Get your facts right, it wasn’t just online stalking, he found out personal information about me. Black mailed me, harassed me, found out where my parents lived. Phoned my mum, recorded the conversation, then threatened to play it on his RUclips channel, blocking or ignoring him on Twitter wasn’t enough.
@@adammarshall9077 Good job you’re not a judge then. He broke stalking and harassment laws and has 10 restraining orders against him. He’ll be lucky if he can do his shopping online when he gets out.
@@iamthat vine said making numerous videos of someone is stalking. BBC spent months making videos on the likes of Tommy Robinson, Andrew tate and many others. They went as far to look for people in their past to question them. Sent people to their doors.
@@mumsspaghetti6649 that wasn’t all Belfield did. Making videos was only a small part of his crimes. They included harassment, blackmail and defamation. In my case as well as making videos about me. Belfield sent me several threatening emails, as well as messaging me across all my social media platforms. When I blocked and ignored him. Belfield then began harassing my parents. Sending them emails, as well as finding out where they lived and phoning my mother before recording the conversation and threatening to play it on his RUclips channel. He was found guilty of stalking by a jury, and lost his appeal when he tried to challenge it. He has now settled two civil cases admitting that he lied about Jeremy Vine and DC Percival. And has issued apologies to both
You know criminal prosecution is considered worse, and harder, than suing ? What would you have said if he did sue ? You are indulging in damned if you do damned if you don't rhetoric.
So, it turns out Vine is suing. Having looked it up, the civil action started well before the criminal case made it to court. The criminal case took precedence, so there was a delay. That is normally how these things are done. Do you approve of Vine's actions, now that you know there is a civil case ? Or are you going to jump backwards through logical hoops ? Or just never respond ?
I hadn't seen this before, Philip. Interesting. The frightening thing is how easy it was for a disturbed individual to persuade hundreds of people to harass total strangers. Of course Belfield is the one most to blame but I can't believe people are so easily manipulated.
I was incline to agree. But then you only have to look at Trump and how he got half a country to vote for him! It’s worrying how far people are influenced by “free speech”. It’s exactly why I stood up to Belfield. I can’t change the world, but I hope that I can make a difference in some way.
Whenever I engaged with Belfield’s supporters I asked them to not consider what he said as being gospel but to take his comments with an open mind, do their own research and come to their own conclusion. RUclips and now Twitter have made it profitable for people to get rage clicks and so a lot of people just post whatever they think will get people angry, whether they agree with it or not. Belfield was good at manipulating stories and creating 2-3 minute videos which got a lot of clicks and made him a lot of money. There was a huge incentive for him to keep posting what he did unfortunately.
@@lennon7575 Sadly so. I don't even think he *was* that good. As ASP pointed out, he lifted most of the stories straight out of the Daily Mail and used their narrative. But as far as his fans go, I guess it's easy to believe you really know someone when you watch their videos every day and think they must be telling you the truth about everything.
@@martinprice8935 because at the time of this interview Vine had already engaged a solicitor and began his civil case for defamation, which he would later win, with Belfield acknowledging that he lied about vindictive and the allegations were false. Belfield would then pay Vine damages and issued an apology. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-66256582.amp
@@martingonzalez2850 well if a crime is committed they should report it. We did, and that’s why our stalker is now in prison. That’s how these things work.
@iamthat Oh, 'We did' Look, it's the totalitarian far-left with their selective use of justice. I take it you work for the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation? Do you think Hugh Edwards should be in prison? And just how many more are the BBC covering up for?
You clearly don’t understand anything about this case. Or the man imprisoned for stalking. In both my case and Jeremy’s. This was not just about turning off social media. Our stalker Belfield continued to harass us both, even after we ignored him in social media. In both cases, and with other victims. He proceeded to email us and our families. Black mail us. Produce videos about us on RUclips. As well as finding out where our families lived and sending them threatening messages too. It wasn’t as simple as just blocking and ignoring Belfield. He would not stop. Even until the day he went to prison he continued to harass us and is currently still under investigation for further allegations against him.
@@iamthat You are clearly full on, doing to him what he did to you. Stop it and get on with your life.. He has done time (and still doing). If you do not let go of this it will ruin your life and haunt you. You must leave it be. I see how many posts you have made.... and yes, I do feel for you. But time to let it go. Believe me, if he was capable or truly willing to physically harm you then he would have. But he didn't. If you are worried about 'blackmail' then why? If you are worried about friends and family then have a chat and ask them to block him.They will understand. If he truly is a weevil then you have no fear. If he is more sadistic then he will be returned to incarceration. I do not think you have any worries if your conscience is clear. Again, I say, I feel sorry for you, but be at peace with the world. I'm not religious, but I believe that many wise words are written about this in the bible. How about visiting him and talking face to face - and see his inherant weakness? It takes guts but may provide the closure you seek.
I cannot understand why Belfield still has both a Twitter and a RUclips channel active. He has been convicted of stalking and harassment and he used both his RUclips channel and Twitter account to target his victims yet both of his accounts are still active. Why on earth haven’t his channels been removed?
Because of “free speech” he is technically within the law to say whatever he wants on those platforms, and RUclips and Twitter won’t do anything because they make money from it. The law needs to change.
@@berwynluxe2751 it probably won’t get to court. I have begun a civil case for harassment against Belfield, which he can defend, but I doubt he has a defence so he is likely to settle out of court.
I can't see why it's Belfields fault what his followers do, I don't agree that you can be blamed for things other people have done, It's his followers responsibility to adhere to the law. I'm not a Bellfield fan, I just feel we are going down a dangerous path that would mean we could no longer complain about anyone just incase someone listens and attacks the person we complain about.
@@craigshannon6011 but we’re talking about committing crimes. If Belfield incites his followers to break the law and commit offences they are responsible for their actions. But Belfield should be accountable for his, if his intentions were to incite. Which I believe they were.
@@iamthat But is there a fine line between inciting and complaining? Most people regularly complain about Politicians for example, If something bad were to happen to one of these unpopular politicians would all those people complaining be held liable for that? I very much doubt it as half of the country could be in trouble. I actually prefer Jeremy Vine over Alex Belfield but I disagree with him over this, unless there was clear incitement of violence against anyone which I don't believe there was. It just comes down to voicing a dislike of someone.
@@craigshannon6011 I don’t think there’s a fine line, I think there’s a very clear line, which Belfield crossed which is why he was found guilty of stalking and is now in prison. In my case. Belfield was quoting as saying I “deserved a kicking” as well as many homophobic and derogatory remarks. And in both our cases Belfield revealed identifying information about our families, and where they lived and could be found. This crosses the territory of acceptable conduct. Plus, I am not a politician, and not a public figure. So I wouldn’t say I deserved to be talked about to the extent that Belfield exercised.
@iamthat I wasn't aware you were personally involved, I will agree with you that I don't think Belfield is a very nice person, I remember watching a couple of his youtube videos and found him quite arrogant I was instantly put off. But again, this is how it's a dangerous path as we could all be guilty of saying some negative opinions of Belfield now. That's why I feel freedom of speech is so important. The downside to this is having to listen to a few bad opinions. It feels like cutting our nose to spite our face, I don't want to lose our freedoms because of one bad person. I guess at the end of the day, the judge agreed with you. I'll just always be on the side of free speech even if I don't like what's being said. Otherwise, it would be hypocritical.
@@craigshannon6011 yes my name is Philip Dehany. I was one of the victims who gave evidence against Belfield that led to his conviction. It wasn’t just about Belfield making videos. He was found guilty of stalking me by harassing me, posting about me on Twitter, sending me direct messages on Facebook, finding out where I lived, finding my parents phone number, calling my mother at home and recording the conversation before threatening to broadcast it on his RUclips channel. He also sent dozens of emails to myself, and then my parents after I had blocked him, attempting to black mail me. As well as digging up information about me from my past including my HIV status which he revealed publicly in one of his videos. I am unfortunately still involved in a civil case against Belfield for harassment that he is unwilling to settle, and today I was interviewed again by the police and gave a statement in their on going investigation surrounding Belfield. It’s not a case of just “saying negative things about someone”. Belfield’s behaviour was obsessive and relentless and ultimately criminal. Had he stuck to simply posting videos on RUclips with his “potty mouth” there might not have been a case. He was found guilty because of his other behaviour. The judge was very fair, you can read his sentencing remarks from the case ‘R v Belfield’ detailing the full case: www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
Yes. Alex Belfield admitted he lied about Jeremy Vine amp.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/20/jeremy-vine-stalker-alex-belfield-apologises-in-court-after-being-sued-over-abuse-campaign
They are as bad as each other they both are narcissistic and complain about other people this is a guy who peddles around on a bike videoing people and getting into altercations with car drivers and posts the videos online
@@iamthat sorry but hurty words ? stalking ? - feelings aren't facts. JV shouldnt have used £1,000 of license fee. It's against BBC policy .....fact.....
@@keithemery4233 you clearly don’t know the facts! And should do you research. Belfield admitted that he lied about Jeremy Vine and the £1000. Belfield then paid damages to Vine. You can read about this here: amp.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/20/jeremy-vine-stalker-alex-belfield-apologises-in-court-after-being-sued-over-abuse-campaign As for “hurty words”, Belfield was convicted of four counts of stalking, including harassment and blackmail. It was far more than just posted a few videos. If you want to read more about what Belfield actuality did read his sentencing report: www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
Blocking didnt stop Belfield, he was relentless. Even after I blocked him on Twitter. He began messaging me on Facebook. When I ignored him, he began emailing me. When I didn’t reply to his emails, he began to email my parents. He then found out where they lived and phoned my mother recording the conversation and began blackmailing me. Throughout this he made videos about me on RUclips and continued to even during his trial until he went to prison. He is now being investigated by the police for possibly breaching his restraining order. Blocking did nothing.
I have to agree. In our case. Where there were eight complainants, Belfield was found not guilty of four, and then found guilty of two counts of aggravated stalking (with a penalty of 2 years 6 months imprisonment each) and two counts of simple stalking (with a penalty of 13 weeks imprisonment each). Had Belfield been found guilty of all eight counts. His total sentence would have been 20 years.
@@iamthat If he got 5 and a half years sentence, does this mean he has to serve at least 2 years before any chance of release? That means he won't be released until around November 2025 right?
It’s going to be interesting when he’s released from prison. When he gets home and finds his “career” is dead, his reputation is worthless, his grass is six foot high, he’s only got three subscribers (and they’ve all got caravans in Skegness and bald red heads) and Tarquin is sleeping with Carol Vorderman. Personally I can’t wait.
VINE has not given one example of stalking.
He gave two days of evidence in court.
🤔Another Silly Billy Brassneck cardboard ReTrumplican devotee methinks,
@@iamthat corrupt judge and corrupt court
The trouble is, Alex Belfield never uttered a word of a lie did he? Whereas all he wanted Jeremy Vine to do was to admit his wrongdoing over the £1000 that was illegally given to charity (as it was later found out - but could have gone anywhere including the local offie to buy booze). No man should be put in jail for telling the truth - full stop.
OK I know little of this case but if he has knowledge and believe tbis is true I would think appropriate action is to make a report to police ..to the charity...or proper authority that deals in such matters...a tweet or two to the public stating what actions he took would be appropriate. If you are giving out addresses ..a continued bombardment, then perhaps alex crossed the line?
Blimey, sounds like you have been hooked in by Belfield as well. This is what the judge found with regard the £1000.
"The allegations you made against Mr Vine were wholly false. You boasted online about
the fact that in excess of 400,000 people had viewed your video about Mr Vine
containing these false allegations. Your assertions in your videos and tweets that your
allegation was supported by BBC answers to Freedom of Information Requests was
also wholly false. They provided no support, as was revealed at trial. You were not a
whistle-blower in any sense but developed a fixation with pursuing Mr Vine with a
campaign of abuse."
Further to this, Mr Vine took out a civil action, Belfield apologised and paid substantial damages.
@@gmo4250 From the evidence I heard, this was a total stitch-up. Apologising, paying damages, and going to jail for 5 years.... Sounds like the verdict was rigged and had a dodgy judge...
@@rbee3936
What evidence did you hear and where did you hear it and who from? Why did you come to the conclusion it was a stitch up from a dodgy judge? It was a jury decision that dismissed 4 charges, but he was found guilty on the other 4 charges and of those 4 charges, 2 were partial sentences.
With regard the £1000, it never went anywhere near Jeremy Vine and the FOI from the BBC proved that, Alex lied. The £1000 from the BBC went towards a memorial service for John Myers and was paid directly to the memorial service.
Exactly. Vine and the BBC have done more damage to many more people over the years for their LIES. Just look at the COVID EXCESS DEATHS THEY WON'T REPORT.
What a horrible, horrible man Vine is....
Waste of space
He's such a weak,feeble man.
Did you give Bellend money for his holidays in Vegas?
Amazing. Obviously Vine doesn't have a finger to press DELETE, nor does he have a BLOCK within his email account, clearly the only person in the World without one. Vine, like the others, just LOVE reading about themselves irrespective of the content.
Perhaps if you enjoy reading so much and are that interested in this case, you might want to read the sentencing report from the judge to gain a fuller insight into Alex Belfield’s behaviour.
www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
You do realise that you can’t block a stalker. Belfield set up other accounts and carried on stalking and harassing his victims even though they blocked him. When he couldn’t get to them, he contacted their families instead or got his moronic followers to harass his victims by proxy. Suggest you research before commenting as you clearly know nothing about this case.
@@emmal7920 exactly ❤️
@@Tad1945 Yes, it’s true that many of Belfield’s videos are still out there as he often told his followers to copy and share his videos. He may have taken them down from his own RUclips channel, but many can still be viewed outside the UK or via a VPN connection. Truth Checkers has been exposing Belfield for around 3 years along with many others on Twitter and RUclips. The problem with obsessed stalkers is that they themselves cannot switch off or be avoided. Belfield also lied to his followers and conned them out of money. Many of these people were poor, vulnerable and pensioners. He was a vile despicable conman. People are only doing what Belfield did to many others and are making money out of him. Good for them! 👏
Belfield kept creating new accounts, he was impossible to block, but that's not the point. He was asked to stop on numerous occasions, he chose not to. There's only one person to blame for his prison sentence and that is Belfield.
Cant stand vine
At least he’s not a convicted stalker.
Yeah, the guy's soooo far up his own arse, why tis a wonder, a ain't brown.😂
@@iamthat But Vine is free and still a major threat to society...
@@rbee3936 are you still here? You do know that Belfield admitted he lied about Vine. So you need to take back everything you said.
amp.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/20/jeremy-vine-stalker-alex-belfield-apologises-in-court-after-being-sued-over-abuse-campaign
Vine had to admit at the trial what he did with the £1,000 it WAS against BBC rules!! This is what Bellfield said all along!
I think Vine should be held to account for his deliberate antagonistic actions against motorists just to get TV footage. I don't ever hear a good word said about Vine!!
Re, vine, perhaps he's heard of a little word called KARMA!!
What happens if Vines fans start harassing the car drivers he is regularly exposing? I can't really see a difference it may even be worse as Vine has a larger platform.
@@craigshannon6011 then I agree, Vine may be accountable, and those committing the offence would be responsible for their actions, and it would be up to the victim to make a complaint.
Oh spare me the whining. Mr Vine . There is much worse out there, oops BBC, oops ITV. Where's the money ?
Have you ever been stalked?
What money?
If you’re talking about Vine taking money meant for a charity, Bellend has admitted he was lying and paid Vine damages.
Were you afraid? Cleary a leading pre-emptive question. Sat with that smug grin all over his face. And as for Jeremy Vine calling anyone a coward, pure hypocrisy. And I'm not a fan of Bellend either.
I imagine Vine is suffering from some kind of childhood trauma. He must have been bullied terribly, and this has turned him into a complete prick who gets a sense of righteousness and victory from getting people into trouble. Belfield will be back out of prison one day, but Vine will always be a prick.
And what about me? And the other seven defendants that gave evidence against Belfield? Are we all pricks? Do you think we all suffered from childhood traumas that somehow caused Belfield to want to stalk us?
@@iamthat yes
Belfield should *not* be in jail.
Bollocks to Bellend. Did you send him money?
These people talking about truth, after the week BBC as just had.
I’m no apologist for the BBC however the week they just had appears to have been a media circus blown out of all proportion
Errr, no. This is from last year.
Happy to put Alex away for 5.5 years? Cowzrd
Vine represents msm that has no problem in persecuting individuals
Correct ..vine is vile. Bellfield is a crank...both horrible
FREE ALEX BELFIELD
Don’t worry. He’ll be out by the end of the year, if he behaves.
Horrible man Vine
5 and a half years for words, God bless the UK with the absolute right to free speech.
You clearly have no idea what he did.
Educate yourself and read this (if you can read)
These are the sentencing remarks from the case ‘R v Belfield’ detailing the full case:
www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
@@iamthat One scary authoritarian country.
@@diesel92kj1 you clearly can’t read! And clearly have been watching too many conspiracy videos that have warped your perception.
In this case, which Belfield was found guilty of stalking four people, The judge clarified “I am not imposing sentences on you because you made comments about the BBC or about matters of public interest. Your sentences reflect your repeated and personal harassment of the victims and not your views on any issue of public interest. You are entitled to hold and express views but you are not entitled to destroy the personal lives of your victims through online harassment.”
What do you not understand?
@diesel92kj1 Your talking bollocks, Bellend is a con artist.
He is just awful human . I have heard the Jeremy on his radio show once what was his last breath like how did he died one despicable little man with a little push bike. 💯🇬🇧🇯🇲👍
He is a pro winger
Yeah, he also backs terrorist States, that illegally bomb women and children, in Gaza, he's a despicable character.
IMO most social media is a cancer in society, there’s more negativity than positivity. Instagram seems ok and the only one worth using from my experience.
I could not agree with you more very well said
Too many British people get flattered at the amount of views if they appear on USA religious extremist RUclips channels, but all they're doing is bringing sick USA society where men and women dislike each other into Europe. Such as many USA women tell men they're disgusting if they haven't been cir'cised as a baby for non medical reasons, and some men grow up with issues for having that done, which they then spend a lot of time online trying to take out on women. Such as the USA man banned from entering some European countries for making websites encouraging men abuse women while travelling, or Andrew Tate. Or they go around chanting the word lefty as an insult for what actually USA capitalism causes. Such as how only the USA has a TV series for the child trans Jazz Jennings or only a USA magazine made Bruce Jenner woman of the year, and only the USA promotes melting pot societies to the rest of the world. While all actual left wing societies promote such as most countries in north Europe (except England) and Scandinavia, are socialised health care, not being greedy and getting into debt with credit cards and free or affordable university and not being obsessed with trashy, tacky talentless celebs, who are rich on society being dumbed down from admiring useless idiots, selling their children into the talentless celeb industry to use for their own attention.
Both vile presenter's
Blocking any unwanted contact is easy..Why not do that?
I did block Belfield when he initially targeted me on Twitter. He then began to send me messages on Facebook, which I blocked. He then began emailing me. I did not respond. Then because I ignored his emails, Belfield began emailing my parents. He then found out my parent’s address and my mother’s phone number and called her.
Stopping a serial stalker is far from easy, especially when the police and social media companies did nothing to stop him.
Even now in prison Belfield is currently under investigation from the crown prosecution service for violating his restraining order, which is designed to protect me but hasn’t.
Online stalking just dont go on soccial media like twitter its shit anyway
Debbie babe. Get your facts right, it wasn’t just online stalking, he found out personal information about me. Black mailed me, harassed me, found out where my parents lived. Phoned my mum, recorded the conversation, then threatened to play it on his RUclips channel, blocking or ignoring him on Twitter wasn’t enough.
Vine is just awful
Alex belfield is a good man he did nothing wrong he will be back Alex belfield told me the other day
Alex can tell you what he likes whilst he’s in prison. But he will have to abide by the law when he gets out or he’ll be straight back inside.
@@emmal7920 and what law he did nothing wrong
@@emmal7920 the law can get lost
@@adammarshall9077 Good job you’re not a judge then. He broke stalking and harassment laws and has 10 restraining orders against him. He’ll be lucky if he can do his shopping online when he gets out.
@@emmal7920I know no he will be back
Alex done no different to what BBC have done for decades.
What? The BBC have been stalking people?
@@iamthat vine said making numerous videos of someone is stalking. BBC spent months making videos on the likes of Tommy Robinson, Andrew tate and many others. They went as far to look for people in their past to question them. Sent people to their doors.
@@mumsspaghetti6649 that wasn’t all Belfield did. Making videos was only a small part of his crimes. They included harassment, blackmail and defamation. In my case as well as making videos about me. Belfield sent me several threatening emails, as well as messaging me across all my social media platforms. When I blocked and ignored him. Belfield then began harassing my parents. Sending them emails, as well as finding out where they lived and phoning my mother before recording the conversation and threatening to play it on his RUclips channel. He was found guilty of stalking by a jury, and lost his appeal when he tried to challenge it. He has now settled two civil cases admitting that he lied about Jeremy Vine and DC Percival. And has issued apologies to both
Why did he harass Delaney?
I wish I knew.
Why didn't vine sue this guy for libel? Hmmm
You know criminal prosecution is considered worse, and harder, than suing ?
What would you have said if he did sue ? You are indulging in damned if you do damned if you don't rhetoric.
Hmmm, you're not very bright 😎
@@johncarpenter9385 not you, the poster 😁
So, it turns out Vine is suing.
Having looked it up, the civil action started well before the criminal case made it to court. The criminal case took precedence, so there was a delay. That is normally how these things are done.
Do you approve of Vine's actions, now that you know there is a civil case ?
Or are you going to jump backwards through logical hoops ?
Or just never respond ?
@@timg1246 not really, if he slandered Vine, you take all his money, simples.
I hadn't seen this before, Philip. Interesting.
The frightening thing is how easy it was for a disturbed individual to persuade hundreds of people to harass total strangers.
Of course Belfield is the one most to blame but I can't believe people are so easily manipulated.
I was incline to agree. But then you only have to look at Trump and how he got half a country to vote for him! It’s worrying how far people are influenced by “free speech”. It’s exactly why I stood up to Belfield. I can’t change the world, but I hope that I can make a difference in some way.
Whenever I engaged with Belfield’s supporters I asked them to not consider what he said as being gospel but to take his comments with an open mind, do their own research and come to their own conclusion. RUclips and now Twitter have made it profitable for people to get rage clicks and so a lot of people just post whatever they think will get people angry, whether they agree with it or not. Belfield was good at manipulating stories and creating 2-3 minute videos which got a lot of clicks and made him a lot of money. There was a huge incentive for him to keep posting what he did unfortunately.
@@lennon7575 exactly! Belfield knew precisely what he was doing.
@@lennon7575 Sadly so. I don't even think he *was* that good. As ASP pointed out, he lifted most of the stories straight out of the Daily Mail and used their narrative. But as far as his fans go, I guess it's easy to believe you really know someone when you watch their videos every day and think they must be telling you the truth about everything.
Hard to find this video
Sounds like Vine is now stalking Belfield.
How do you work that one out Pauline?
It was interesting that Vine didn’t talk about specific allegations that AB made.
@@martinprice8935 because at the time of this interview Vine had already engaged a solicitor and began his civil case for defamation, which he would later win, with Belfield acknowledging that he lied about vindictive and the allegations were false. Belfield would then pay Vine damages and issued an apology.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-66256582.amp
Ah, that’ll be it then 👍
Belfield still making money , he's a better journalist than viny to be fair
@@class66 I don’t think Belfield is making any money in prison.
Why didn't you go round to his house and have a word with him Jemery?
I dont understand....
Vine is a regular litigant. He sues at the drop of a hat.
Jeremy vine so broken by words it makes him a fortune through the courts.....the biggest ctime here is the bbc salary hes paid.......
Could of just blocked him, you baby
Jeremy Vine stalks innocent motorists on a daily basis.
@@martingonzalez2850 have any of them complained to the police?
@@iamthat What's that got to do with it?
@@martingonzalez2850 well if a crime is committed they should report it. We did, and that’s why our stalker is now in prison. That’s how these things work.
@iamthat Oh, 'We did'
Look, it's the totalitarian far-left with their selective use of justice.
I take it you work for the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation?
Do you think Hugh Edwards should be in prison? And just how many more are the BBC covering up for?
@iamthat Oh, "we did."
You mean the BBC and your establishment mates and their selective use of justice?
It does seem to me that he could just have turned off his social media.
You clearly don’t understand anything about this case. Or the man imprisoned for stalking. In both my case and Jeremy’s. This was not just about turning off social media. Our stalker Belfield continued to harass us both, even after we ignored him in social media. In both cases, and with other victims. He proceeded to email us and our families. Black mail us. Produce videos about us on RUclips. As well as finding out where our families lived and sending them threatening messages too. It wasn’t as simple as just blocking and ignoring Belfield. He would not stop. Even until the day he went to prison he continued to harass us and is currently still under investigation for further allegations against him.
@@iamthat You are clearly full on, doing to him what he did to you. Stop it and get on with your life.. He has done time (and still doing). If you do not let go of this it will ruin your life and haunt you. You must leave it be. I see how many posts you have made.... and yes, I do feel for you. But time to let it go. Believe me, if he was capable or truly willing to physically harm you then he would have. But he didn't. If you are worried about 'blackmail' then why? If you are worried about friends and family then have a chat and ask them to block him.They will understand. If he truly is a weevil then you have no fear. If he is more sadistic then he will be returned to incarceration. I do not think you have any worries if your conscience is clear. Again, I say, I feel sorry for you, but be at peace with the world. I'm not religious, but I believe that many wise words are written about this in the bible. How about visiting him and talking face to face - and see his inherant weakness? It takes guts but may provide the closure you seek.
I cannot understand why Belfield still has both a Twitter and a RUclips channel active. He has been convicted of stalking and harassment and he used both his RUclips channel and Twitter account to target his victims yet both of his accounts are still active. Why on earth haven’t his channels been removed?
Because of “free speech” he is technically within the law to say whatever he wants on those platforms, and RUclips and Twitter won’t do anything because they make money from it. The law needs to change.
For a criminal, he should lose his channel
@@paulflint6254 I’d be surprised if he is allowed to keep it after some recent activity that the police are now looking in to
@@iamthat good
His RUclips and Twitter accounts should have been closed down. I wonder why RUclips and Twitter are not closing down Alex Belfield accounts??
Is it me or is this guy acting.. something about him doesn't seem geuine.. any ideas?
Are u taking ab to court?
@@berwynluxe2751 it probably won’t get to court. I have begun a civil case for harassment against Belfield, which he can defend, but I doubt he has a defence so he is likely to settle out of court.
Wasn't expecting comments to be made about this
someone needs to checks vine's hard drive. he seems the type
Outrageous sentence
I can't see why it's Belfields fault what his followers do, I don't agree that you can be blamed for things other people have done,
It's his followers responsibility to adhere to the law.
I'm not a Bellfield fan, I just feel we are going down a dangerous path that would mean we could no longer complain about anyone just incase someone listens and attacks the person we complain about.
@@craigshannon6011 but we’re talking about committing crimes. If Belfield incites his followers to break the law and commit offences they are responsible for their actions. But Belfield should be accountable for his, if his intentions were to incite. Which I believe they were.
@@iamthat But is there a fine line between inciting and complaining?
Most people regularly complain about Politicians for example, If something bad were to happen to one of these unpopular politicians would all those people complaining be held liable for that? I very much doubt it as half of the country could be in trouble.
I actually prefer Jeremy Vine over Alex Belfield but I disagree with him over this, unless there was clear incitement of violence against anyone which I don't believe there was. It just comes down to voicing a dislike of someone.
@@craigshannon6011 I don’t think there’s a fine line, I think there’s a very clear line, which Belfield crossed which is why he was found guilty of stalking and is now in prison.
In my case. Belfield was quoting as saying I “deserved a kicking” as well as many homophobic and derogatory remarks.
And in both our cases Belfield revealed identifying information about our families, and where they lived and could be found.
This crosses the territory of acceptable conduct.
Plus, I am not a politician, and not a public figure. So I wouldn’t say I deserved to be talked about to the extent that Belfield exercised.
@iamthat I wasn't aware you were personally involved, I will agree with you that I don't think Belfield is a very nice person, I remember watching a couple of his youtube videos and found him quite arrogant I was instantly put off.
But again, this is how it's a dangerous path as we could all be guilty of saying some negative opinions of Belfield now.
That's why I feel freedom of speech is so important. The downside to this is having to listen to a few bad opinions.
It feels like cutting our nose to spite our face,
I don't want to lose our freedoms because of one bad person.
I guess at the end of the day, the judge agreed with you. I'll just always be on the side of free speech even if I don't like what's being said. Otherwise, it would be hypocritical.
@@craigshannon6011 yes my name is Philip Dehany. I was one of the victims who gave evidence against Belfield that led to his conviction.
It wasn’t just about Belfield making videos. He was found guilty of stalking me by harassing me, posting about me on Twitter, sending me direct messages on Facebook, finding out where I lived, finding my parents phone number, calling my mother at home and recording the conversation before threatening to broadcast it on his RUclips channel. He also sent dozens of emails to myself, and then my parents after I had blocked him, attempting to black mail me. As well as digging up information about me from my past including my HIV status which he revealed publicly in one of his videos.
I am unfortunately still involved in a civil case against Belfield for harassment that he is unwilling to settle, and today I was interviewed again by the police and gave a statement in their on going investigation surrounding Belfield.
It’s not a case of just “saying negative things about someone”. Belfield’s behaviour was obsessive and relentless and ultimately criminal. Had he stuck to simply posting videos on RUclips with his “potty mouth” there might not have been a case. He was found guilty because of his other behaviour.
The judge was very fair, you can read his sentencing remarks from the case ‘R v Belfield’ detailing the full case:
www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
Free Alex Belfield
Don’t worry. He’ll be out in another 12-15 months. If he behaves.
Jeremy vine....fool
@@tonyfield3131 two months later, you’re still banging on, leaving comments, asking for a response. Get over it, it’s Saturday night, get a life.
Maybe one day Mr V will have to answer the questions posed did Mr bellfield actually tell lies the truth always outs.
Yes. Alex Belfield admitted he lied about Jeremy Vine
amp.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/20/jeremy-vine-stalker-alex-belfield-apologises-in-court-after-being-sued-over-abuse-campaign
They are as bad as each other they both are narcissistic and complain about other people this is a guy who peddles around on a bike videoing people and getting into altercations with car drivers and posts the videos online
Woke justice - sad times
Yep, really woke to call out stalking.
@@iamthat sorry but hurty words ? stalking ? - feelings aren't facts.
JV shouldnt have used £1,000 of license fee. It's against BBC policy .....fact.....
@@keithemery4233 you clearly don’t know the facts! And should do you research. Belfield admitted that he lied about Jeremy Vine and the £1000. Belfield then paid damages to Vine. You can read about this here:
amp.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/20/jeremy-vine-stalker-alex-belfield-apologises-in-court-after-being-sued-over-abuse-campaign
As for “hurty words”, Belfield was convicted of four counts of stalking, including harassment and blackmail. It was far more than just posted a few videos.
If you want to read more about what Belfield actuality did read his sentencing report:
www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/R-v-Belfield-sentencing-160922.pdf
Alex took his viewers for granted and edged them to go after vine
Completely agree
Laughing, oh vine, certainly doesn't need help in that area.😂
I am surprised Bellend I mean Belfields fan boys are not here defending him...
They are.
Vine your just as bad as MPs
Belfield was jealous and hateful towards men doing better than him.
😭😭😭😭
Oh its the winging bike Nonse, what is the name of course professional Victim
St Jeremy of the cyclists and
Alex is the vor
@@xanderj822 he hasn’t got much a voice now he’s in prison and admitted he’s a complete liar.
@@iamthatlol
What a load of bullshit. Why didn't you ring him online at the time? You've sued other people for nothing.
Hasn't he heard of blocking?
Blocking didnt stop Belfield, he was relentless.
Even after I blocked him on Twitter. He began messaging me on Facebook. When I ignored him, he began emailing me.
When I didn’t reply to his emails, he began to email my parents.
He then found out where they lived and phoned my mother recording the conversation and began blackmailing me.
Throughout this he made videos about me on RUclips and continued to even during his trial until he went to prison.
He is now being investigated by the police for possibly breaching his restraining order.
Blocking did nothing.
When is belfield due out? He should have got longer than 5 years. He’s an appalling human being.
I have to agree. In our case. Where there were eight complainants, Belfield was found not guilty of four, and then found guilty of two counts of aggravated stalking (with a penalty of 2 years 6 months imprisonment each) and two counts of simple stalking (with a penalty of 13 weeks imprisonment each).
Had Belfield been found guilty of all eight counts. His total sentence would have been 20 years.
@@iamthat If he got 5 and a half years sentence, does this mean he has to serve at least 2 years before any chance of release? That means he won't be released until around November 2025 right?
@johnking5174 I think normally, you get half off for good behaviour. Then you are on probation for the rest of the time.
@@timg1246 So that would mean a near October - November 2024 release, considering he was jailed in September 2022.
@@johnking5174 He will probably serve around 2 years 8 months. So should be released by June 2025.
It’s going to be interesting when he’s released from prison. When he gets home and finds his “career” is dead, his reputation is worthless, his grass is six foot high, he’s only got three subscribers (and they’ve all got caravans in Skegness and bald red heads) and Tarquin is sleeping with Carol Vorderman. Personally I can’t wait.
That’s if he has a house to come to, once he’s finished paying off all the legal cases