🎭 FIRST TIME hearing Marillion "Garden Party" | Opera Singer Reaction
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- Juilliard trained Opera Singer and Vocal Coach Maggie Reneé reacts to Marillion "Garden Party"
Marillion are a British rock band, formed in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, in 1979. They emerged from the post-punk music scene in Britain and existed as a bridge between the styles of punk rock and classic progressive rock, becoming the most commercially successful neo-progressive rock band of the 1980s.
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$100 AND you want it under 7 minutes, that's CRAZY! any song i would want you to hear would be between 17 and 25 minutes. You are going to miss all the best music out there!
My favorite songs:
1. Pink Floyd: Shine on you crazy Diamond 18 min.
2. Genesis: Suppers ready 23 min
3. Porcupine Tree: Anesthetize 17 min.
Try The Web especially the live version an absolute masterpiece featuring an extraordinary vocal performance from Fish where he destroys a plant and sucks his thumb all in the middle of a truly glorious guitar solo from Steve Rothery.Mesmerising all round
Fish is a poet who sets his words to music. His solo works are amazing too.
He,s into gardening bigtime now.
Vocally, Steve Hogarth blows him away in every way imaginable. After listening to the band with H for the last 30 years, going back to this early 80s concert to hear Fish shrieking his way through this song, which I used to like, was a cringey experience. His falsetto made my skin crawl and the aggressive/shouty sections sound like some sort of cartoon character voice. And when it comes to pitch I think maybe he should try a baseball.
@@soundsandvisionsHQ yeah I have to agree, Hogarth is a much better vocalist, but Fish was of that era and it was about imagination, I loved the early marrilion days but now looking back it hasn't aged well. All in all the band just moved on as they should. Time doesn't stand still.
Been a fan of Marillion since 1985. Saw them 3 times live. 1 Fish & 2 Hogart. Actually meet the whole band in Philly after the gig. Yes, Hogart has a better voice, but Fish’s lyrics are far superior. He’s a very talented writer. Do miss the ‘80’s… 👍
@@VPOFIT I found some of Fish's lyrics to be far too verbose, like he was trying to stuff too many syllables into a measure of music. This is especially true on the album "Fugazi". I think his best lyrics were on "Clutching at Straws" where there was a strong storytelling element and he'd curbed the overstuffing of words quite a bit. Just my opinion of course. Hogarth's lyrics are more direct, even simple at times, but I also find them more relatable & emotional. Also, many of the lyrics of H's era were actually written by John Helmer, and some of my favorite Marillion lyrics seem to come from him.
Sugar Mice, Bitter Suite, Easter, Warm Wet Circles, Kayleigh/Lavender, The Space - so many great songs.
All awesome songs. So many to choose from.
Thank you for the upload and reaction, for a fantastic band. Garden Party is a parody on upper class and snobs. You are right, there are not many that would react to this song which was a hit in for the group in Britain way back in 1983.
Holy crap, you're finally doing Marillion! YES! Ugh, though, this is NOT the song I'd use to introduce someone to them. Especially the live version. Some fans really don't understand that you don't go for deep cuts or your favorite weird live performance as someone else's first time.
As everyone will say, give a look at their song Kayleigh, but also please give some love to songs like He Knows You Know, Sugar Mice, and Script for a Jester's Tear. Then go to Marillion with Hogarth as lead singer, and give songs like Dry Land, The Party, and Uninvited Guest a try. THEN, you go to Fish's solo career - The Company (a song about him leaving Marillion), Just Good Friends, Goldfish & Clowns, etc
My personal favorite but very sad song is Chelsea Mondays - "Funny thing was she had a smile on her face. She was smiling, what a waste...."
Beautiful song and yes very sad
I totally agree 👍
Misplaced childhood was a masterpiece imo - my husband who was a huge fan preferred script
Yeah Marillion is a long journey to take to really get into it. It's worth every second though 😄
Oh Maggie, Maggie ... this went right over your head didn't it ...
Marillion are Britain's Best Kept Secret. This is one of their very earliest recordings from their first album. 40 years and 20 studio albums later, they're still going strong. Worth trying some of the newer stuff like Neverland, The Great Escape or, from their latest album, the absolutely sublime 'Care'
This was recorded best part of 40 years ago. I was at that show. That crowd is now all in its 60's! It was the culmination of Marillion's first major national tour, ending at the famous Hammersmith Odeon. I suspect that was the biggest venue that they had ever played up to that point. Garden Party is a very British song, others have already explained the meaning. It was a bit of lighthearted fun and was all about Fish interacting with the audience at the end of an emotional and musically brilliant show.
Not all of the crowd, I'm only 58 and was there that night. They were at Reading the previous year where they announced the EMI deal. Probably a few more there but conceded the crowd there wasn't just for them.
I was there too, what a gig it was. Yep, I'm 61 now ! It was a massive celebration of how far they'd come (to sell out Hammersmith Odeon). I used to go to Hammy O pretty much every week for about 4 or 5 years and this gig was one of the loudest crowds at all the gigs I saw there. They played Grendel too, I think for the only time on that tour? Remember Fish's rambling funny stores between songs?
Marillion post-Fish is a completely different band. I would urge you to watch a live performance of The Invisible Man or Neverland, both of which are amazing but very different than this.
Marillion after Fish sucks, i stop listen Marillion with New Singer, so boring
@curupirauirapuru3368 There's no accounting for taste.
@@adammckee3496 no way, i listen marillion since 1985
@curupirauirapuru3368 I have every album they've ever made. The albums with Fish were amazing, as were his first two solo albums. He started going downhill pretty quickly after that. Marillion remains an amazing band that still makes original music and are super tight live. You yourself said that you stopped listening to them after Fish left. So why are you insisting they are no longer good? You just don't know.
Thanks for looking at Marillion, one of the best bands in the world. You’d probably enjoy tracks from the H era (Steve Hogarth) more. Please take a look at a live. track like “Go!” from the Royal Albert Hall, you won’t be disappointed :)
Marillion albums are really structured like a opera. To understand the story you have to listen to the entire album front to back. Marillion is a band appreciated buy the intelligent.
while i love the early Marillion material they really peaked with Misplaced Childhood, other opinions may exist though
So true. Much like the band they are sometimes compared to Genesis there is the Gabriel era and the Collins era. Both are great in different ways but I will always have a soft spot for the Gabriel era.
@@2727rogersagreed they are like two bands.
I could never really get into the Hogarth era. And, being a classic Genesis fan, that makes sense. Maggie would probably have more enjoyed Warm Wet Circles, or the Pseudo Silk Kimono/Kayleigh/Lavender chunk, both for the easier to digest poetry of the lyrics and musically
A lot of the lyrics require some knowledge of the British upper classes - "Angie chalks another blue" - Cambridge awards a 'blue' for sportsmen (and women) who play for the college, so that means that Angie has copped off with a sportsman (as her mother did when at Cambridge).
"Beagling on the downs" - beagling was the hunting of rabbits and hares with packs of beagles, on the downs (chalk uplands that cross southern England).
"Rucking" is a move when playing rugby.
And so on ... 🙂
I learned something. Never got the blue reference.
It's like someone wrote about a satire about Debutante balls or Frat life in the USA.
Wow, Marillion ❤️🥰
Watching her eyes roll over at the lyrics is priceless. There is a lot there to take in.
This song is from my favourite album of the 1980’s. Of the ones that i have heard of course.
Should have chosen 'He knows you Know" 'Chelsea Monday" or "Forgotten Sons", Garden Party is kind of padding compared to their other tracks. Fish was interesting. He was a post-Peter Gabriel, Roger Waters, kind of vibe. Most of Marillion's material was very dark..except Garden Party, Lol...
Great reaction Maggie! Although "Garden Party" is not their greatest, it's far from their worst... You migh have enjoyed more "He Knows, You Know", "Assassin" or the whole "Misplaced Childhood" album (er, yeah, it's a concept album, exeptionnal by the way!). You might have even enjoyed the very special "Grendel" song (17 minutes long), but maybe not on a reaction channel ;)
I'd have gone with the whole of 'Script For A Jesters Tear'.
Or at least avoid the edited versions of the singles. ('He Knows You Know' is a personal favourite).
Fish is a great lyricist.
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This is a viscous commentary on the British class system. Many of the references are not even recognised by many Brits these days. Unlikely that non-Brits will get the references.
Fish was a great lyricist, though some commentators called him a 'poor mans' Peter Gabriel because it sometimes felt that Marillion had a strong feel of early Genesis about them.
I saw them the year before this as the bottom act of a festival with Jethro Tull headlining. It was just as they'd got a record contract and they were excellent live.
I totally agree with the comment on this being a comment on the horrible class divide from 1980's Britain. Probably it's kind of still there but rears its ugly face in other ways. I'm Swedish but have spent time at the unis in Oxford and some of these silly things still goes on, like hanging out on lawns and punting. Tourist and students alike, but not the overly posh people that did it back in the 80s. Don't really know what they are up to now, I guess they are the people in Marillions "the new kings" "and f.e.a.r".
If you watch the original video of Garden Party, you’ll notice that he’s mocking the upper class of England. They want to be on the “columns” and be recognized. Theirs mothers did it too as Fish says!
He is talking of being in the columns of newspapers and the bit about mothers doing it too, well that's about shagging a sportsman 'a blue'
You were introduced to the best lead singer ever performed. He is a poet of a Shakespearen nature.
Have been listening to fish since the early 80s he’s the best
By far my favorite Marillion song, but surprised to see a reaction video to it as it's definitely a deep cut. The fact that it almost sounds like something Genesis would have made 10 years earlier is an absolute plus.
My brother Pete used to share a house in Aylesbury when we live there, Pete said he was a great person and would always have time for a chat when he went back stage to say hello in later years.
It’s song about the English Aristocracy. Us and them.
Garden's party... oh.. So madness!! Only with Fish!!!
Those were the days. It was a new musical adventure, for some of us, and a lot of fun at the time. The sorts of people Fish was writing in the 1980's about are the people who have been running the country for the last thirteen years. so it takes more than pointed satire to disrupt the British class system.
im only here because of Marillion Maggie.
Some people argue that Marillion is one of the successors to the spirit of the progressive band Genesis, which began to switch to pop rock in the mid-80s. They are called the pioneers of Neo Progressive Rock along with It Bites, Iluvatar, IQ, Pendragon, Arena and Simon Says
I had never heard of them before this reaction. Cool stuff!!! Great job Maggie!
it's a rather scathing attack on British social class, a garden party would be held where you "had" to be seen, along with all the pretence and pretension that goes with it
and Fish is a poet, a wordsmith picking his words very precisely
Garden Parties are big in my part of the world as well.
My personal favorite but very sad song is Chelsea Mondays - "Funny thing was she had a smile on her face. She was smiling, what a waste...." Please try some tracks from the Script for a Jester's Tear album. I am sure you will love them. Take care Maggie.
Progressive rock at his best. Fish rules.
Got to see these way back in 83 on the script of a jester's tear tour at Nottingham rock city. Great time, remember at the end Fish throwing him self into the crowd and surfing the crowd while the band played "you take the high road" . The look of horror on the faces of the stage security. I still have the tour tee shirt😮
Great reaction, the lyrics are very uk English so I am not surprised you were lost with out context. At a high level the song is about garden party at Cambridge university the cam is the river in Cambridge and punting is how move on boats on that river
Great reaction! Fish is Scottish and the rest of the band are British. He’s a brilliant lyricist and capable vocalist. Many of his lyrics have double and triple meanings. He was on the first 4 albums and Misplaced Childhood is one of their 3 or 4 masterpieces. Steve Hogarth is the “new” vocalist and he’s on what I consider their others; Brave, Marbles and FEAR. He’s not as eloquent a lyricist, but is a more emotive vocalist. I might suggest the live version of The Invisible Man to see what H is all about. They’ve become a little more like Radiohead than Yes. My favorite non-metal band of all time!
So they're all British then.
@@idlehands1238 😂 True I should have said English.
Try saying that to his face he identifies as a Scotsman and Hibernian supporter @@idlehands1238
Mark Kelly isn't English
My favorite Marillion song is Freaks. I got to see them 3 times before Fish, left. The best concert band.
A bit of a tough one to start with , basically a commentary on upper class people dining out at Cambridge University and all the things that go with trying to snare future husbands and wealth for the young up and coming ladies ( debs ) . I would definitely try Kayleigh and Sugar Mice , and also Steve Hogarth ..Seasons End , The Uninvited Guest . They are very different to this .
With Fish, you had poetry, drama and a concert at the same time. He used a face paint every time
ahh man I love these guys....wish they had stuck together, but we now have two versions lol. Fish is the original singer and the best.
Out of this world, the invisible man , Gaza, This Strange Engine. You will enjoy them all I promise.
Sin Fish Marillion se terminó. Se transformó en un grupo pop comercial. Los 4 albums de Fish con Marillion son una obra de arte
I agree 100%.
Disagree, listen to An Hour Before it’s Dark and tell me that’s commercial! It’s a beautiful piece of music writing.
Amazing band!! So great musical talents, they really went their own way and carved their own path in music. All respect to Hogarth who is a great vocalist and clever lyricist, but for me the Fish-era was the magic. Unashamed reclaiming the romantics in the post-punk era and re-launching progressive rock. Rothery's guitar, Fish's dreamy head and lyrics.... great music! This particular song is Fish's stab at high society and snobbery. Good reaction! Try reacting to that long musical adventure based on Beowulf: "Grendel".
Kay Lee = Kayleigh 😉
This is the soundtrack of my youth.
And continuing.
LOL Yeah. many of my favorite songs I could not understand the lyrics. ELP's Take A Pebble .. is from 1970 And all this time until recently, i thought the lyric was "Photographs of grandson" when it actually says "photographs are Gray and torn"
Thanks for the reaction! Welcom to Marilliion. As a lover of music, you owe it to yourself to explore the deep treasures that lie within this bands 40+ year catalogue. Try "Kayleigh", and "Sugar Mice" from the Fish era. Then listen to "The Space" live at the Royal Albert Hall with their "Friends from the Orchestra" and "King" live from De Montfort Hall in Leicester.
Another great neo-progressive rock band to look at would be IQ. Like Marillion, very influenced by the theatrical atmosphere of the Peter Gabriel-era of Genesis. React to IQ - The Enemy Smacks (Live 93)
Marllion de la belle époque fsih que j'adore ❤❤❤❤❤
1st track on side 2 of the greatest album ever recorded.
Seen them so many times,Best gigs were always at Aylesbury.
oh, I sm lookig forward to discuss about the sense of the lyrics of "die Walküre" or "L’Orfeo" with this "opera singer".
That will be fun.
The band had many mega hits , Kayleigh , being one of them . For the next 5 years the name Kayleigh was number 1 for new born girls in the UK . Kind Regards
Please react to the band "TESLA", they are a criminally underrated 80's/90's band,,,,,,,"Love song", "What you give", "Call it what you want", "The way it is", "Edicine's medicine" or "Modern day cowboy".
I've always loved the fact that some of the great songs they made, did not really get released on what is considered their Studio Albums. I love "Lady Nina" and "Tux on", for example. Marillion (Fish era) is still the band that I'd go to if I was forced to only listen to one artist for a year, or five.
I'd urge you to listen to some of the other suggestions here in the commen section. Kayleigh and Suger Mice are two ballads, more or less, if thatäs your style. The title tracks on the earlier albums are always a good listen, Script For a Jesters Tears and Assasing. Their lyrics is much more understandable. ;)
Both Tux On and Lady Nina are short stories.
Market Square Heroes is a longer, up-tempo story and if you are feeling homesick for Scotland you'd go for Margeret. There are a few live versions of Margeret out there that are a bit wild. and "out there".
While Fish might not have the most main-stream singing voice, his delivery and engagement is second to none, and his writing is so far from modern pop you could ever get. He has more in common with classical litterature then popmusic.
Grendel is the tops, a song for men, they say
You should listem grendel or the Full show, maybe react all
Cideralla search would be a good start with marillin
You won’t understand fish this guy is on another level, he’s on the level of Shakespeare and Dostoyevsky
You are lucky
Marillion is the best band in the whole world...
You need to know the British/Scottish Background to understand his Poets placed into Music.His Performance reminds to the Others at that Time like Hawkwind/Genesis (Gabriel Time) and Bowie.Its definatly EUROPEAN Music and its hard to understand in America.....
I think it's a British social commentary.
Not the Garden Party that i know. "Garden Party" is a 1972 song written by Rick Nelson and recorded by him and the Stone Canyon Band for the album Garden Party. The song tells the story of Nelson being booed at a concert at Madison Square Garden. It was Nelson's last top 40 hit, reaching No. 6 on the U.S. Billboard pop chart.
This era of Marillion was a Gabriel-Era Genesis clone ( and nowhere near as good).
@@Rolling_Ronnie True but the Gabriel era Genesis may be the best prog rock band ever so that was a very high bar for Marillion to reach.
I guess it would depend on what type of music you listen to. For me when you say Garden Party this is exactly the song I think about.
@@2727rogers That's so very true 🙂Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot and Selling England By The Pound are incredible, and they were only just into their 20's when they created those albums.
its about a working class boy looking into a posh upper class garden party, with wonder.
As a vocalist I would recommend listening to the Steve Hogarth era. Fish was more a lyricist and flamboyant frontman rather than a “vocalist”. He also used his voice in an unnatural way which he adjusted later in his solo career.
Nice reaction 👍🏻.
Welcome to Marillion.
Absolutely NOT the best song for an introduction (it's even one of the least songs from the Fish era)!!
Fish isn't a great singer live, imo.
You definitely should check out Steve Hogarth, unlike Fish, he is actually a great singer live.
The Great Escape, live 2013 please🙏👍🏻 or Neverland (live '09)
Out of the 15 million records sold 14 million were with Fish in 7 years, it's taken them 25 years to sell another million
I think that tells you all you need to know!
как всегда неподражаемая,😄, класс!
Marillion is great. Loved your reaction. 🥳
Punk Rock was a reaction to the increasing corporate co-opting and commercialization of traditional rock music. It embodied the rebellious attitude of youth that first inspired rock music. But the musical skills of rock or even the desire to develop them were seriously lacking. Punk was all about not honoring any values at all. Post-Punk, which evolved into New Wave, came about in reaction to that. Post-Punk was new and exciting. And it incorporated much higher musical values. As is evident here.
Marillion was very literate. It's a song attacking the upper class, and snobbery of the social events.
Marillion only with Fish
So she speaks 12 languages, none of them British. Lol.
Marillion is one of my favorite bands. I agree that Hogarth Marillion is a different band. Interesting in it's own right but VERY different.
This is not the song i would have chosen for a starter. Maybe Market Square Heroes? Or one of the Misplaced Childhood hits? Even the deeper tracks on that album are more accessible.
All that said, good for you not just rubber stamping the choice. You clearly did not love it. But you were able to say so without insult. Others might not.
Punting on the Cam. The Cam is the river that runs through Cambridge. Many upper class over privileged sons and daughters attend Cambridge university and do indeed punt on the Cam.
It's the ridiculous nature of class and privilege being mocked x
Glad she admitted that she didn’t like it. Nearly all reactors pretend to like songs.
same scenario as always, Americans don't understand English music and I write Tao as a Pole. Yes, there is such a country. So next time I recommend something from Britney Spears' repertoire. This will work. Greetings from the non-existent country that defeated communism.
probably never heard of chaucer or Strauss.
What's kalay? 😂 You've never heard the name Kayleigh before? Wow
One really needs to have an IQ to listen to Marillion. The albums when Fish was in the band was really structured like an opera. You must listen to the entire album front to back to get the complete story.
You should listen to Marrillion Suger Mice with Fish. Completely different from this.
This song is having a dig at the British upper classes and you need to understand the significance of the "Oxbridge" universities, Debutantes, 'Hooray Henries', etc., and 'upper crust' British society to make sense of the lyrics. It you are uneducated in that, you have no chance of understanding it. LOL
Garden Party wouldn't be my first choice to introduce Marillion to someone not raised in Britain or Scotland. It could be thought of as a very satirical take on the English upper class, but likely meaningless to the average American. Marillion has a lot more accessible songs that don't require a degree in English literature, but there are a few on the early albums. Fish, the lead singer has an incredibly thick Scottish accent on their first few albums, but mellows quiet a bit by the fourth album. Many years later, Fish said when he hears his early songs now, that to him it's sounds like he swallowed a thesaurus.
Loved the Fish era stuff but Hogarth era is way better. The Space, King, Neverland, The Invisible Man, Estonia (the "with Friends from the orchestra" version), The Great Escape I could go on. Best kept secret in British music 🤫
chalking a blue - they seduced a studebr - a blue
Genesis disciple❤ garden party studio is much better check the web or he knows you known
There are better songs to react to. Look at some of the other suggestions below.
I'm disapointed in you. Guess you weren't ready for them yet. Kayliegh is probably more something by them you could wrap your head around and appreciate easier.
It was totally the wrong song and a bad performance, so not surprised she didn't like it. She would definitely appreciate a song with Hogarth live!
Even I wouldn't care for anything by Hogarth, he has no soul. The should have Fish come in and re-record there last 30 years worth of albums so they are listenable to me. 😂
LOL, as with so many things it's a matter of taste, some people like 'h''s voice and others don't. But keep in mind that the proportion of female fans has increased quite a bit since Hogarth joined the band... So again, I'm guessing she'll like it
They are Scottish so it's sometimes hard to understand.
There are better Marillion (Fish era) songs for a first listen like "Kayleight", "Incommunicado", "Forgotten sons", "Assassing", "Slainte mhath", "Sugar mice". If I were to suggest a song "Garden party" would be my last choice.
The English music press is notorious for being prejudiced and made up of a closed group that sells its pens in exchange for opinions previously written by businesspeople.
Well you may be a trained opera singer, but you obviously know "jack" about British class, culture poetry or literature. If you did you would understand, or at least be able to, pronounce words/names correctly. Words/names that most, (well read) British people would at least recognise.
This song is a "piss take," of the British upper classes.
It's absolute class by "genius" musicians!
I think she is semi literate she struggled with words like queueing
These musicians are and will be better than you in any comparison, be it money, success, fame and quality
H is a lot better singer, Fish is a better lyricist, both are great performers
If you like his voice maybe
Whelp. I guess I’m the only one on the planet that thinks this band is a very poor rip-off of Peter Gabriel’s Genesis. Could he make it any more obvious that he’s trying to emulate his idol? I could never get through one of their songs without cringing hard and getting second-hand embarrassment. The lead singer creeps me out as do their album covers. How this band ever got anywhere with this drool is the truly fascinating thing. I would rather listen to anything playing on the radio today than be subjected to even 5 seconds of this. It’s that bad, in my humble opinion.
I think they just wanted to keep. Some of the traditions of the genre. But as more sound. I would say Neo Prog is quite different.
The way you feel about this band. I feel the same way about Oasis. I.E how did they become a thing. All they did was ripp-off old songs. By turning them into Punk.
The songs stand alone so the comparisons don't mean anything now, marillion are nothing like genesis.
@@FormulaProg you’re right, they are nothing like Genesis because no amount of PG face paint would ever make them sound like Genesis aside from “Fish” desperately trying to emulate PG. 👏👏👏
@@YamahaMT-zi8cb it's called homage. They sound nothing like genesis.
Ok, You don't have to like "my music" . But this really hurts. No comment on performance, lyrics, the age that they released it. It's not their best song, in my opinion, as a song, it's the least on the entire album but the lyrics are soooo great.
So this was my first and last time listening to your channel.
Mainly cause of the completely lack of interest in the band. You don't have to like the music but this is soo lame.
And that's coming from a guy who isn't British.
Why start with this awful version of a fan fave? Do not be put off by this and listen to songs others on here suggest. I’m embarrassed you saw this. I was there in the tour and not sure what happened on this night as it was played at half speed lol
Fish is a Peter Gabriel wannabe.
The influence is definitely there. But i always felt them very differently.
This was embarrassing to watch. I'm Dutch but even I get what he's talking about.
And if you don't understand the meaning of the lyrics, google it.
Fish is a true poet. No Fish, no Marillion. Maybe you understand steve hogarth better.
His songs (and voice) are more mainstream.
Fish really knew how to put the problems of the eighties into words.
I can understand that you don't get that. You don't have to like the music but you really did not understand anything.. the music from the era, the political and economic circumstances. I would suggest reading books ratjer than playing guitar hero.