I think everyone needs to remember that Bonnie's room has a secret vent leading STRAIGHT to Vanny's hideout. A vent that's only visible to people wearing the Vanny Mask.
I love how people have discovered Glamrock Bonnie and are creating wild theories on wondering what truly happened to him. The Monty destroying theory is definitely the best option but imagine if it was somebody else bigger.
It isn’t that hard to guess it was someone like Monty who ended Bonnie considering how he is known to be the most aggressive out of the crew, I still thinking that it was definitely Vanny or The Mimic who is behind of this tragedy honestly.
I mean the record clearly state Monty was the last one to leave Bonnie ball before he was stared missing so at this point it’s less of a theory and more of a fact
I do really hope we get to see more of Bonnie in the future. With the way this DLC ended with Roxanne saying "Cassie?" I know a lot of people are saying that could lead into something. Perhaps there will be more? Who knows. One can hope, however.
We got some clues that Glamrock Bonnie is indeed exist in SB Base Game. We got to learn more lores about him and even saw how his fate ended in SB Ruin. At this point, we should be able to meet him in person again in next SB game, it will spice the game up and SteelWool doesn’t have much to lose from this decision.
Is it just me or that "Cassie?" Sounds a bit weird.. like it's the mimic mimicking Roxy... Just the way it was said, it's just a blank "Cassie?" And not a worried "Cassie?". Idk man I think that's the mimic
@@WolfyTheUnfunnyinteresting theory, i Personally thought that that was her reaction to Cassie possesing Roxy, because they have a deep bond and stuff yk
@@WolfyTheUnfunny idk, the Mimic would probably just leave instead of going for Cassie (it could take the way Cassie got in instead of the way she was leaving). That and Roxy could totally finish it off now that it has 1 arm, so it probably dipped anyways.
It is odd that Cassie doesn't have a voice line about Glamrock Bonnie just being there and how wrecked he is. It almost feels like it was never supposed to be viewed legitimately and is purely just an Easter Egg. It would have been interesting to have a single person acknowledge the truth of what happened to him.
No you're able to get jn there by disabling all wet floor bots from the moment you get the mask. Once you've disabled them all and disbalie the last one in bonnie bowl, the little freddy curtain/door thing lifts up a bit so you can get in.
I believe all animatronics were going to be able to have an interaction of sorts where you fix them as evidenced by dawko in the vid for an ending, and bonnie wouldve been the final secret one, but alas... yet again we are left wondering what is in the cut content wagon So that might be why theres no voice line or reaction nor does he change anything at all in the game, its like just the barebones primal concept thrown in there and then forgotten
What Dawko said about the monty ride cutouts telling a fake story may be true. During the ride, if you look next to the final monty cutout you can see one of those AR jammers sitting next to it. Which explains why we can’t use the mask during the ride. I suspect if we were able to use the mask during the ride, it might change the cutouts to show what really happened to Bonnie, or something else like that.
Yeah its true and if you mod to move around the entire part of that area of the ride on top of the tornado thing there's a glamrock bonnie cutout at the top
Also, kind of a side element, the AR world is basically connected to Cassie’s psyche. It shows her dislikes, likes, fears, and memories. For example, all the Monty vending machines turn into Roxy fending machines, and we know Roxy is her favorite. Also, it seems that Cassie doesn’t like Monty too much. The only vending machines that change are Monty’s and her comment about the AR Monty plush is “It’s hard to look at.” On top of this, she comments elsewhere (for item info) that her dad’s favorite was Bonnie and that he didn’t tell her why Faz Co replaced him with Monty. So perhaps we truly would see what happened to Bonnie on the ride in AR… or maybe it would be something that her mind subconsciously thinks happened.
Perhaps, perhaps the story is half true. The "passing the torch" is a lie but we know Monty hates Freddy as seen in Monty golf where Freddy is in the trash as Monty performs on stage. In the cut out section everyone is in the spotlight, Bonnie being the closest to Monty, while Freddy is purposefully kept out of the spotlight in the dark. So my guess is that the cut out story is a mix of the made up story to frame Monty and the other half is Montys genuine feelings torwards Bonnie which are only positive, plus his programming pre mimic1 control didn't allow him to hurt anyone and on top of that his claws were significantly weaker since he wasn't a bass player animatronic.
The Monty killing Bonnie theory makes sense but also doesn't. Monty didn't get his claw upgrades until AFTER replacing Bonnie, so he didnt have claws to do damage. The staff reported his aggression as side effects from the upgrades. In SB, Bonnie was also last seen in Monty Golf, not Bonnie Bowl, so he would've been found hidden in Monty Golf if Monty is the culprit (unless the employees took Bonnie back to his place, or rebuilt Bonnie which is why his design is so different from the Bonnie Posters in SB). I origionally thought the corrupted staff bots killed Bonnie to use his endo for Burntrap, but it seems this isn't the case (again, unless that Bonnie was a prototype). So now, my theory is that the Mimic might have killed Bonnie instead. It can copy voices so it could've lured Bonnie away. The Mimic also has big claws, not just Monty, and bodied Roxy in seconds (we hear it throw Roxy) like how Bonnie seemed to have been thrown into the wall. And compare the jumpscares, Monty uses his teeth. The mimic uses it's claws. The normal Mimic's jumpscare also shows it using it's claw to kill Cassie, and it's fist as the plushsuit to smash her head (like how Bonnie's head is smashed). My last evidence, is that the Mimic in the book rips apart people's arms and legs. Now look at this Bonnie's body: arm and leg joints are pulled apart. Besides, the Mimic is the only animatronic we see (apart from the staff bots and Moon in SB whom attacked Freddy) that are violent towards other animatronics. Even when Monty was raging in his room, he didn't take it out on his friends. Also, Monty was origionally an understudy; who was trained to be able to play all the parts to replace any character in the band for showtime if they couldn't perform. So if Monty really wanted to be the main star of the band, wouldn't he just have killed Freddy and gone straight to the top? Plus, its possible the game is giving us wrong hints to accuse Monty on purpose so that we could have a cool plot twist. Like murder mystery 💀 Why not? Let me know your thoughts!
But then what’s the Mimics motive for destroying Glamrock Bonnie? Why is his body behind Bonnie Bowl? Why did Fazbear Int completely erase all memory of Glamrock Bonnie, all merchandise, a new stage room for Monty, new plushes, all this extra stuff when they could’ve just slapped a new shell on him, like Vanessa says they can do? Mimic is a possible culprit, but I really do think it’s just Monty
I don't think it was the mimic since it was trapped under the sinkhole for a long time, my theory is that vannys staff bots did it, bonnie had his own stage in the bonnie bowl and he had a microphone with him where we find him, I think vanny could've lured bonnie in with like a kid voice saying like "im stuck help" bonnie went and saw vanny and a bunch of staff bots and got jumped, cause the damages on bonnie looks super similar to how the fazerblast endings glamrock freddy did, the staff bots are the ones that make more sense than the mimic or monty imo since there are staff bots behind the bowling alleys motive? It could've been that bonnie might've known of vanny and the mimic or (unlikely) vanny knew that fazbear entertainment would've made monty replace bonnie and she tempered with monty beforehand to get anger issue when replacing bonnie.
unlikely mimic did it because mimic is supposed to be REALLY locked up in there, heck even the door was cemented over too. So mimic has ALWAYS been stuck in the basement. But I do agree with the other commenter about staffbots, because they're known to be able to "disassemble" animatronics, remember the ending with how Freddy was torn up (same as Bonnie here, same as Freddy in ruin), and "disassemble Vanny", they're known to be able to disassemble stuff.
I genuinely believe that if there's going to be another DLC, we'd explore the areas that we didn't get to see in Ruin, like the main atrium, El Chip's, the arcade behind El Chip's, Mazersize, the endoskeleton daycare, and DJ Music Man's area. We would then play as Cassie's father who's searching for her and also repair all of the animatronics. Yes, even Monty.
Counter-points to the "Monty killed Bonnie" theory: 1) Monty is never shown as aggressive in his non-hacked / pre-SB state (Plex artwork, Golf elevator voiceline, etc.). Steel Wool have never done so either in ANY of the promo art, strangely enough. (Side note: the only Glam canonically shown with a temper is Roxy) 2) Duffle bag messages show Monty deliberately shirking his new main-stage duties... as if he doesn't want it. Completely counter to any notion of Monty wanting the spotlight. 3) Freddy pointedly calls the Glams his friends (without exception), and routinely blabs about problems around the Plex. He surely would've mentioned any doubts or suspicions about Monty. 4) Despite Faz. Ent.'s corner-cutting, doesn't quite follow that a lawsuit-paranoid company would ignore Monty being violent against people or the other Glams 5) Fun psych fact: very common symptoms of having experienced a traumatic event (e.g. the violent death of a best friend) include: eating disorders, shattered self-esteem, and uncharacteristic aggression 6) Monty only received the sharp claws (and his aggression, by coincidence) AFTER Bonnie was destroyed, so the supposed claw marks on Bonnie don't make much sense to pin on Monty. (Burntrap / The Mimic also has razor-sharp claws. And Bonnie's limbs are notably broken apart; the Mimic is well-known for dismembering its victims) 7) Monty's Golf arcade is not evidence of his ambitions; Monty surely had nothing to do with programming the game, and due to above points. (Was the game made by Monty-simping staff that hate Freddy? Already evidence of Roxy and Chica simps among staff areas)
8) Bonnies AR Collectables like his Plush and Pinata match with his Animatronic Design, therefore he never had Sunglasses to begin with, so Monty didn't steal anything from him 9) Ruin Freddy had suffered a similar damage to Glamrock Bonnie: what looks like a clawed open Chest. Was Freddy attacked by Monty too? No, He was only ever attacked by Staff Bots, they don't even have claws, and they left damages that looks like claw marks. The same thing could've happened to Bonnie
I think that Bonnie is still alive. Just not how you would think. Bonnie's soul lives on in the wet floor bots. Dont call me crazy yet. For example, disabling all 4 in the room with him makes his eyes return normal. If his eyes turned normal after disabling all of them, I think that its a possibility he was spying on everyone. So, i think his soul lived on in the Wet Floor Bots. Yes, its weird, but that is a possibility.
Mimic has been locked below six feet undergrounds for years. He was freed once Roxy Raceway crumbled and the Pizzaplex abandoned. Monty's death being shocked by a neon head artwork of Bonnie, plus Bonnie's neon artwork has sunglasses too. It's just clear he did killed him.
@@DanPlotMixnah I don’t think monty killed Bonnie. The fact that monty never got his claws until AFTER Bonnie was murdered and he wasn’t acting aggressive and angry like he was until AFTER Bonnie was murdered leads us to believe that monty really did look up to Bonnie and that his death really affected him. Someone killed him but it couldn’t have been monty
The only proof that people have is that "Bonnie was last seen entering Monty Golf” and your probably thinking “It had to have been Monty that killed him!" Thing is, they haven't been paying attention to the security and employee logs. Monty wasn't always part of the glamrock band, and believe it or not, he never wanted to be part of it. He was already the star attraction of Gator Golf, and even had his own stage where he would perform for adults and children. Monty would even go as far as ditching the main performances to hang out in Gator Golf, remembering when he was his own star. If you’re still saying, "Monty had to have done it, because who else has claws like he does? and he has anger issues. Bonnie got himself in Monty’s way!". Monty was given his claws AFTER Bonnie was decommissioned and eventually found. He was given them so he could play the bass. THEN, Monty started getting his anger issues, and his claws further increased his rage. Going to Gator Golf was perhaps a way to calm himself down, and prevent himself from harming anyone or anything. Besides, while remembering the days he was his own star, he would feel extreme guilt, being Bonnie's Replacement, and wishes that things went back to normal, so he could go back to Gator Golf.
@nyan_ My theory? Remember the ending in the vanilla game where Vanny used the security bots to destroy Freddy? What if she used them to destroy Bonnie?
My theory is that Monty saw bonnie get killed and someone probably canny or glitchtrap probably tray to erase it from him system but couldn’t fully erase the memory so he so angry could be pstd from seeing bonnie get killed , also could be possible that Monty looked up to bonnie
I understand the points you're making but, if Monty truly wanted to go back to his place and is actually not the bad guy.. Why did he want to take Freddy's place? We know Freddy is the "main attraction". In the golf mini game don't we see a broken Glamrock Freddy?
I wonder if there is even a slim of chance for Glamrock Bonnie, Chica and Monty to still have some roles in the next SB game cause I’m really rooting for more character exploring for these three! The potentials are still there. (Eclipse too but I have a feeling that he will for sure play some major role in the next game)
@@fnanythingilikedaf3031Conisdering how much content the first game had, the sequel will most likely be bigger so they're probably gonna have more SL, FFPS and Security Breach based minigames
@@markevans1054 I think Help Wanted 2 will continue on Vanessa’s story, Why? Because In the trailer, Dread Unit says, “You’ve done an adequate enough job the first time around to have you back.” Which could mean he’s talking about Vanessa, So yeah, I think Vanessa will be the MC again.
Something I’d like to point out; in all of the endings with the Mimic, Roxanne Wolf appears. She had been previously trapped under a forklift and her node was deactivated, which was something we HAD to do to progress, but somehow, she was reactivated, she got herself unstuck, found her way down to the Pizzeria Simulator area without us knowing and managed to get there just in time to save Cassie. Did someone reactivate and free her?
I do wish that there was a "recommission" ending, where you fix the animatronics. Cause the regular animatronics aren't inherently evil, they were just under the control of Vanny. And a lot of people wished that we could somehow save the animatronics.
Regardless of how Bonnie was destroyed, I think the reason the Pizzaplex went through rebranding with Monty and having him take Bonnie's place is because Fazbear Entertainment just has no idea where Bonnie is to begin with. Where we find him is in an obscure back room with no natural doors into it, so it makes sense nobody would think to look there. Bonnie himself doesn't even look all that bad compared to the other shattered/ruined animatronics, and considering there's logs from Security Breach that talk about how both Chica and Monty had been decommissioned prior to the game in the exact manner Gregory decommissioned them, there's no reason for them not to repair Bonnie and just let the animatronic go to waste. Vanessa herself said they could just slap their casing on a new endo, and just like with Chica in the trash compactor they'd probably find a way to blame some employee and take the cost out of their paycheck. It's my belief Fazbear Entertainment has no idea what happened and probably think he's lost in the Pizzaplex or was stolen; hence why there was no officially approved response to the question "where's Bonnie," and possibly one of the leading factors to the creation of the Security STAFF Bots, so there could be eyes everywhere in the Pizzaplex during their closing hours. What I think supports this idea completely is the newspaper from Security Breach's loading dock ending: Freddy leaves the Pizzaplex with Gregory, all the employees and staff have no idea what happened to their star attraction, so they just replace him with Mr. Hippo. It's exactly what happened with Bonnie. Even in that photo all the other glam rocks are repaired, proving they could repair Bonnie if they just knew where he was.
I'd been thinking the same thing! It seems they lost track of him in Monty Golf and never found him again, then decided the best thing to do was introduce Monty into the band! I never believed Monty was the one who killed Bonnie, because it seemed too... cut and dry of a story point. Like a red herring that's distracting us from the truth, or from the real questions that need to be asked.
To be honest, with this and the other theories in the comment section of this video we might be close to cracking the code as to what happened Glamrock Bonnie and why he was replaced
@@spencerman07 While it is true "out of commission" generally means something is broken or not working, it could also just be used to refer to something not in service; in it's modern use it is also very common terminology for machinery, so it could just be the global phrase Fazbear Entertainment uses for an animatronic that can't perform regardless of reason. Evidence already suggests Parts & Service are more than capable of fixing decommissioned animatronics no matter the damage, so it makes more sense to just fix Bonnie if they found him and knew his condition than to completely retcon him and his imagery out of the band and Pizzaplex.
i know right? compared to markiplier he is SUPER energetic. my brother thinks of him as an average loud youtuber, and he is almost right. he is a loud youtuber, but not an average loud youtuber>;)
The thing that messes me up about Bonnie's death is how personal it feels; the claw marks alone feel animalistic, like a fit of rage however the bowling ball caving his head in feels so intentional and visceral, like a weapon in an actual murder scene. Slashing him was bad enough but cracking his head open feels so much more cruel.
Monty is not the type of guy who will plan a death like that. Bonnies death is way too convenient. Alone, in a room no one can find, no security footage or deleted security footage. The bowling ball was used to kill Bonnie and then the one who did it (spoilers it's Vanny, their rooms are next to each other making Bonnie easily a witness at any given time) added the claw marks and used green paint around it to frame Monty just in case staff, somehow find Bonnie and questions start to raise.
i believe its the mimic. its never mentionned how long "a really long time" is, and he is in possession of a walkie talkie. the mimic slowly lured bonnie with montys voice, making sure he doesnt encounter the real monty in the way. he then beat him up, ripped his limbs and made it look like montys fault. why? no idea 😅. but i believe he was imprisoned for that incident
So funny to me that all of other Glamrocks were hit with so much more, and still active, while Glamrock Bonnie with couple of hits and is already done for. There's might the lore behind it.
Well, Glamrock Bonnie's eyes are still active. I think it's likely that the damage he's suffered has disabled his voice box so he can't communicate. He also can't move for obvious reasons. But he is still there.
At 11:04, I would also point out that Bonnie's left leg has been severed from his body, and in addition to what specifically look like leg joints on the ground, his face is intact. This perfectly explains/backs up/legitimizes the idea that his parts were fused to Afton's corpse in S.B. Afton only had one Bonnie foot, not two. Based on how it's disconnected and based on real physics/practicality, I believe this is a shell of Bonnie. His left foot is there. But it's just the shell. The actual endo section, both of them actually. Were taken in order to use on Afton. It's just that Vanessa or whoever, didn't bother to reconnect one of his two legs. The other leg's endo, can be found laying on a table in S.B. You can tell because the metal's stained blue. I believe what happened is that let's say, "Vanny". Tried to remove the whole left leg endo section, by separating it at the knee joint. But doing so, physically broke off too many core components of the leg, so it was worthless. Hence why discards it somewhere near the sticky notes room. So she tries again. THIS TIME HOWEVER, she goes through the pelvic section and disconnects the right leg from WITHIN. I believe the extra parts that Dawko sees here, are either the broken off parts from her first attempt, or they are components she removed from the pelvis & spine area to better access his right leg.
There's a lil problem with that, and it's burntrap, who is the mimic, not afton. Unless mimic used parts of bonnie's endo to fabricate a springtrap-like shell so the mimic woukld try to "be" like afton
@x-nimator9997 I don’t think burntrap has the original mimic that we saw in Ruin inside of him. I think it is more so just one of the regular endo skeletons (which also have a mimicking learning AI as seen through pictures in the base game). Thus, I think it makes sense for Bonnie’s parts to be used in burntrap while still having mimic elements…. If burntrap is even real, though, or a figment of Gregory’s imagination. At least we know the blob is real.
@@x-nimator9997 MMMM YES, this metallic creature with superstrength and really high intelligence will slowly walk around trying to hack computers, while it can simply go and tear Gregory to SHREDS. I don't think those old doors would do ANYTHING to stop the mimic dude.
So i know Monty is one of the main theories but there's another one that i actually really like: The Idea is that Bonnie was one of the first Animatronics to get affected by the Mimic Virus and eventually it got worse and worse until the day where it was about to fully take over he went over and passed on his Guitar and Glasses to Monty just like the Story says and then went back to Bonnie Bowl (You also have to remember, at this point Monty DID NOT HAVE THE CLAWS, he only got the sharp claws AFTER Bonnie was out of commission) and he went Berserk while fighting back the Virus, clawing at his chest in pain and banging his head against the wall (remember he would've had the claws as well because their necessary for the Guitar) and then Bashing his OWN head in the with Bowling Ball destroying himself in a secluded location to prevent the Virus from spreading, then he ended up taking control of the Pat-Pat's so he can still watch over his friends even if he's destroyed, but then he has to watch as they too get affected by the virus and ends up linked to the Pat-Pat's through Agony (which would explain why we hear them crying and screaming, it's Bonnie frustrated that his death meant nothing) it's a very dark and grimm theory but it makes sense and it goes along with Bonnie being the smart and empathetic type of character we're lacking from the current roster
I could see him committing suicide but I don't think he has agony they aren't possessed remember they don't have agony or remnant or souls I wish this theory was true but it just can't be
@@Toy_freddyofficial1 not necessarily agony possessed but these robots do have feelings and personality's, i should be more specific that he's IN agony and through that his anger and frustration allows him (or gives him the idea) to link up to the Pat-Pat's
By finding the mostly intact body of Bonnie, that contradicts the theory that Vanessa used pieces of Bonnie to build Burntrap. just in case he is still out there.
People keep saying it has to be Monty since Bonnie has claw marks across his chest. Problem with that theory is that Monty doesn't get claws until Bonnie gets decommissioned. And Monty doesn't have any aggressive tendencies until the claws are installed, at which point he starts smashing things. He also straight up skips performances, so he probably doesn't even like being in the spotlight that much. On top of all that, Bonnie's last whereabouts known to staff was in Monty's Gator Golf. So, how is it that a hulking Gator carrying a hulking Bunny could sneak across the pizzaplex to Bonnie Bowling and stash him in the back of the bowling alley, where a camera is pointed towards, without being noticed? It doesn't quite add up.
Monty is the guy that went through Bonnie's death the worst out of the Glamrocks. He doesn't own a bowling ball because he has seen how Bonnie died and ran away.
I think that Bonnie is still alive. Just not how you would think. Bonnie's soul lives on in the wet floor bots. Dont call me crazy yet. For example, disabling all 4 in the room with him makes his eyes return normal. If his eyes turned normal after disabling all of them, I think that its a possibility he was spying on everyone. So, i think his soul lived on in the Wet Floor Bots. Yes, its weird, but that is a possibility.
The thing is, theres probably still many secrets we missed. Something as small as pressing certain buttons on the keyboard/controller in a certain spot.
It looks so violent. Which is surprising cause. This franchise is all about murder but it’s only ever spoken about not really shown so it’s kinda cool to see him there like that
I have some thoughts about the Glam rock Bonnie situation. A lot of people are saying that the "origin" story for Monty is a sort of cover for Bonnie's death, but this leaves a lot of questions in the air; 1) Something to keep in mind is there has to be some truth (if not all) with the origin story to the ride, because it's heavily implied that Monty killed Bonnie, meaning that Monty was a character added prior to Bonnie's "disappearance". So what was Monty's role? Let's assume that the story is legit; Monty was a young gator from a swamp that aspired to be a musician, and was a fan of Freddy's band. Perhaps he was even a fan specifically to Bonnie his favorite member. Bonnie recognized his talent, and gave him one of his guitars (so he wouldn't have to play on a handcrafted banjo anymore) and Roxy gave him a makeover. The last cutout we see of Monty is him standing alone performing, so he could've been a solo act while Bonnie (who could have multiple guitars) stayed with the band. This begs the question why Monty would feel the need to destroy Bonnie to fill his spot, if he was successful on his own. 2) from a logistics standpoint, it makes no sense for the company to basically retcon Bonnie after his disappearance. While i agree that covering things up is something Fazbear Entertainment is infamous for, when you stop to think about the AMPLE amount of endoskeletons they have at their disposal, it becomes irrational. They have the parts, they have the tech, and the have the programming to just make (or repair) Bonnie. Even Freddy points out in the main game that there has to be several of him, and has an existential crisis. All I'm saying is something just isn't exactly lining up right. There has to be a deeper reason as to why the company was quick "retcon" Bonnie, instead of just repairing him, or even build a new one. But I'd certainly like to hear everyone's thoughts on this.
It looked to me like the "Pat pats" were keeping him active. Probably hoping someone would eventually find him and repair him. And someone would have hit him with the bowling ball FIRST, then would have opened him up. It definitely looks like someone was looking for something inside GrB. It doesn't look like the voicebox was taken so it would have to have been something else unique to Bonnie that let him play the guitar.
Cassie and Gregory seem to be character foils or at least opposite in nature. Gregory destroys the animatronics and is apathetic towards them while, on the other hand, Cassie repairs them (at least Eclipse and Chica) and is very compassionate towards them. They were hunting her down similarly to how they were hunting Greg down, but Cassie still had empathy for the animatronics while Gregory met them with (unnecessary) violence. It is super interesting, and I would say it’s even intentional.
he’s definitely a robot and is that patient person people be talking about. I thought that was clear since SB considering how he does not care one bit about them animatronics except for Freddy. I do like the Idea of each SB game having a guardian of some sort. I hope if there’s a next game we get some closure on Gregory and Freddy and where they are, I’m still so attached to GlamRock Freddy.
“Unnecessarily”? Are you actually serious rn? The kid was in survival mode and did what he thought would protect him at all cost. He wasn’t armed, he’s small, and he has giant highly intelligent machines chasing him down. Wtf was he supposed to do? Comments like this that criticizes Gregory’s decision when he’s in a harmful environment under attack with glitched animatronics controlled to hunt for him are so unbelievably tone deaf and ironically enough -unempathetic towards his character. In Gregory’s jumpscares, the animatronics are hinted in attacking him or killing him so why would an equal amount of attack towards them in his defense be demonized and questionable?? You guys are literally acting like you wouldn’t do the same had you been in his situation??? No one shows empathy towards someone or something that brings harm and violence towards them. Gregory’s survival decisions were absolutely understandable and justified. People who think otherwise are weirdos.
I don't think it's Monty who killed Bonnie. Monty is too isolated to want a stage (seeing as he always goes to the catwalks to get away from everything). Seeing as he idolized Bonnie, he wouldn't do this to Bonnie purposefully. Also, he wouldn't have the claws unless Bonnie was gone, so Monty couldn't have been the one to rip Bonnie apart.
His programming also wouldn't allow him to hurt anything, it's only when mimic1 is in control through Vanny when he goes on a rampage. It seems Monty wanted to be with Bonnie rather than replace him which is why he has a hatred for Freddy who were close friends with Bonnie as seen in the poster in Bonnies room.
Markiplier had the right idea. Like he said, the show must go on. It might've sucked that he didn't tell anybody about Bonnie, but if he did, they would've been devastated.
I still think that Vanny was planning to use Bonnie's body for the mimic, but in the canon timeline she never got that far because she was freed by Gregory. I also think that is why Burntrap doesn't exist in Ruin and why Vanessa and Gregory know about the Mimic. After being freed Vanessa told Gregory about the monster in the basement that she had been working for. Vanessa, Gregory, and Freddy decide to lock the Mimic up and create M.X.E.S to keep it down there.
Just had a thought, in Base Security Breach, Vanessa says that while Freddy is out of Comission, Monty will run the shows. Then in this DLC, Monty was the last member to join the band. Wouldn't Chica have had seniority. Not even counting Roxy because we don't know when she joined the band, but wouldn't Chica have been in the band longer than Monty?
Just a thought, but Freddy and Monty have the same body type, so perhaps Monty is compatible with equipment and whatnot that Chica or Roxy wouldn't be able to work with. Things like the chest cavity? Or, it could have been a scare tactic to try and get Freddy to admit it too. Freddy did say she just got done giving him a routine checkup, which she might not be doing if she was really planning to scrap him and had suspicions that he was working with Gregory.
Wanted to comment on you saying about how the cutouts is just a cover up. Above the final Monty cutout, there's a Bonnie cutout of him falling. I don't think it's a cover up, I think either an endo killed him, cuz I think there strong enough to slash Bonnie's stomach open, and we did see a lot of endos in Bonnie Bowl in the base game, or it's Vanny's work.
I heard someone else say (Unofficially of course) that Monty actually looked up to Bonnie and really just wants to Destroy Freddy. I want to say that Monty was maybe forced to destroy Bonnie, maybe by Vanny, but it’s clear to see that all of Bonnie is there, so no Parts were used to Build Burntrap. But this is all just wishful thinking. Edit: Maybe if a Animatronic Repair Ending is added, we can ALSO Repair Bonnie. It’d be awesome to play as Cassie with 5 Animatronics backing her up and being able to switch between them to use their Abilities. If we get a Replacement Head for Freddy though, the real Freddy Head (that Gregory might still have) would have an Existential Crisis.
@@just_that_fan7796The aggression mentioned in the books was more like a stereotypical rockstar (with the smashing instruments up onstage as well as his green room) and he's mentioned as being harmless towards others until he gets infected by the Mimic1 program/virus. It should be noted that Glamrock Bonnie is not mentioned as a character in this story, only Bonnie Bowl is mentioned.
Although if you look at any bit of Monty and bonnie together he always looks at peace near bonnie also Monty has nothing against Freddy besides maybe a rivalry between males since alligators do that irl when they see a man near a girl they like and Monty has a lot of Roxy pictures in Monty golf not saying it's true but hey she gave him the makeover
Awesome as the DLC is, it really doesn’t tie up many loose ends. We still don’t know what’s up with the Blob, Burntrap, and of course now we have all the new bits like MXES and the mimic’s costumes, but it’s so cool to finally get some closure for Glamrock Bonnie if nothing else. Maybe this is here because of that cut ‘repair the animatronics’ ending, and we would’ve gotten to see him up and running with the rest, but that’s all in the nonexistent past now
bro burntrap and blob arent canon the afton ending was proven to not be cannon it was pricess quest hees why: there is a room completley based on princess quest it has the sword and it has the pq glitchtrap on the wall and freddy is missing his head and in the princess quest ending gregpry takes freddys head and all non canon endings have drawings of them as a collectible and guess what theres one for afton ending even in the description cassie is confused
@@tabbyearth8377 You can see the Blob at the beginning of this game, and you visit Burntrap’s charging station though you can’t see inside it. Even them being confirmed ‘non-canon’ would be more info than we have right now, which is just that they probably exist
@@tabbyearth8377 I understand you point my guy, but why would it be called the "Cannon ending" in the base game? only way I can make sense of that is ruin is like a alternate timeline or something idk.
Yknow, I get the feeling helping fix all the animatronics (or at least some) would have been part of the ending too. There are a few extra mascot suits in the area we first meet the Mimic, perhaps the fixed animatronics were supposed to play an additional role in helping keep them at bay? Similar to how Roxy does the Mimic in the Lion costume. Of course this is assuming it can control them too. I just find it strange how in that final room there are other costumes that go unused and we only see in shadow (as far as I know, I haven't caught up with the full extent of discovered things lol)
I really appreciate that he spoke to Ray about the issue of finding all the pat pats to unlock glamrock bonnie and he wanted to unlock the secret how it was meant to be unlocked
LOL poor Dawko, man just saw Marks video and I didn’t expect to see you in it but it was a nice surprise nonetheless Also I’ve always loved the name Pat- Pat ( because Dawko ‘Pat Pat’ s their heads ) and always called them that since your first Security Breach playthrough
I've been having a lot of back and forth discussion with friends regarding Glamrock Bonnie and Monty. There's evidence to support both sides: I'll write our thoughts down below, feel free to read and bounce back ideas/theories!! What we know from the memos: Bonnie was last seen entering Monty Golf, his disappearance/decommission wasn't planned since children are asking where he is and employees don't have a "company approved response (the gondola ride with Monty's 'origin story' is the official company response to soothe child fans for bonnie)," management thought to capitalize on Monty after Bonnie's decomissioning, Monty escapes performances to hide on the catwalks of his golf course, and that the claw upgrade makes him aggressive/destroy objects. Bonnie is found completely done in: his exoskeleton is crushed in various places, and there's 3 claw marks on his chest slashing diagonally. Additionally, there's something green on his chest--it CAN'T be green mold, since metal is a mold-resistant material. It could be green paint transferring from a hard-enough swipe due to friction, but who knows. I don't think the Mimic killed Bonnie. Gregory at the end of ruin explains that the Mimic has been trapped there for a LONG while. And it's only NOW able to get out because Cassie disabled security. Roxy has green nails which could explain the green on Bonnie's chest, but she has no motive either. It may just be a character we have yet to meet (though this feels the weakest of the explanations). Also, Ruin seems to be a story about closure/redemption for main cast. Chica gets her voice bank back and doesn't attack Cassie in that moment, Roxy is able to protect Cassie and even connect with her, and Moon/Sun are reunited into one again: the only character who gets no closure or redemption is Monty, and we quite literally kill/fry him in a _Bonnie neon sign_. That's ironic symbolism at it's finest, don't you think? If Steelwool is implying Monty killed bonnie, wouldn't it be narratively satisfying/justified that it's something related to Bonnie which in-turn kills Monty? If Monty did do it, there's two possibilities: he did it of his own accord, or he did it while corrupted by Vanny. In the meta of it all, it's probably just Steelwool not having expected bonnie to be demanded in SB, and now they're trying to rework him in and give him a story to appease fans. They're probably going for Monty being the culprit, and any inconsistencies in explanation are just inconsistencies. But I'm interested to see how this will play out in-universe, regardless of whether it's Monty's fault or not. I like his character a lot and he's very compelling. I also love glamrock Bonnie though, and I really hope he gets brought back as a functioning animatronic so Freddy can have his closure (seriously, Freddy saying he misses him in SB makes me so sad). Something else that bothers me is that if Bonnie was a glamrock prior to Monty coming into the band, why is Bonnie Bowl in the character design of Fredbear Diner/older Bonnie? Why isn't Bonnie's look consistent with his glamrock appearance? Fazerblast and mazercise feature the glamrock counterparts of Freddy and Chica, so why is Bonnie different? My friends and I haven't figured this out either. (EDIT: Spelling errors)
@@Clowngeto So why isn't Bonnie's eyes completely shut off? His eyes are still active for some reason. Not blinking or anything, but his eyes are still on.
@@Weirdman20 that doesn’t matter if his eyes are still glowing he’s cleary dead he doesn’t even have any interactions and most likely will never return
Hey, for some reason I actually was able to deactivate the PatPat at the side of the entrance through chapter select. I was just checking the cameras for the secret ending when I noticed that the PatPat was there! I thought I just didn't see him during my playthrough, but he probably wasn't there before. So I didn't have to cheat to see the Easter Egg.
@@grenouillesupreme Because Dawko called them that and this is his video's comment section. Tbh, if it were anywhere else I would've called them Cleaner/Wet Floor Sign bots as well.
There was shattered pieces of Bowling Bowl around Bonnie. To shatter one, you'd need to drop it from a 4 story building. But I somehow don't think this was Monty's doing. The emails from the game said he was last seen at Monty Golf. When did he get dragged to behind his bowling alley?
@@rockycrayon3166also no because you didnt listen. you can do it legit from a fresh save file. just chapter select is bugged. it triggers no endings and why would it?
@@benwilkes3835 monty doesn't get the claws until *after* he becomes a member of the band, due to he needed the claws to play the bass guitar(im pretty sure thats what monty plays) bonnie had those claws beforehand, and it is infered that monty didn't become angry until after he got the claws
Thing is, Bonnie being behind the bowling alley doesnt match up to what the security emails say in security breach. They say Bonnie walked into Monty golf and vanished, so how did he end up here?
Right? I mean, there's no way Monty killed Bonnie at Monty Golf and carried his body without being seen, plus everything indicates that Bonnie was 'killed' here (the smashing on the wall and the broken bowling ball).
To be honest I think the Monty golf bit was just the last place they saw any trace of him. Then when he went back to bonnie bowl, he was possibly attacked by the real culprit
I know a lot of people are saying that Monty couldn’t have killed Bonnie due to not having the claws or anger issues yet however I still definitely think he was at the very least aware of Bonnie’s true fate or somewhat played a part in it. That AR Jammer in the cutout section was *way* too suspicious for him to not have been somehow involved with Bonnie’s death.
Maybe he saw it and knows the true story but won't tell because of like a pact between the killer and Monty he still couldn't have done it bc he has no motive
I feel the moon did this A: all the animatronic were prob charging around when Bonnie went to Monty golf and since the moon is free to roam when lights are off could have walked into Monty golf B:The daycare attendant has claw like fingers under his suit that look like they can leave marks C:Unlike Monty who we only see destroy some bots a gate and shooters the moon knocked Freddy out and is Capable of destroying bots to
Vanny did it, there are a tons of evidence like their rooms being linked and close to each other, camera footage is deleted from Bonnies death, she has logs about Bonnies location when everyone else is kept in the dark and clueless and there is a broken bowling ball next to his head. Monty wouldn't need another object to attack Bonnie, all of the animatronics attack barehanded. It's likely that the animatronics don't know anything about it, only know that he somehow died.
Its interesting, some playthroughs have alternate dialouge the cassie sandwhich, roxy saying something about catching him, the staffbot using gregory's voice. Also a few random things like a yellow painted hand in a certain area (can't remember).
I think there probably is some sort of voiceline that's meant to trigger, but because of the glitch it just doesn't. The DLC does a really good job with the dialogue so I'd be surprised if they put Bonnie there and called it a day
This is such a cool easter egg! I love the environmental details like the spot on the wall and the broken bowling ball that paint a picture of what might have happened. And I love the theory that he was still "alive" somehow and trying to use the Pat-Pats to signal for help.
You know, the entire story of glamrock Freddy is really sad. He was created as a clone of hundreds not alone of course because he had his friends glamrock chica, roxy, and glamrock bonnie. But one day his best friend (glamrock bonnie) went missing. Slowly every one he loved died and got torn to bits including him. But when bonnie is finally found after his desperate cries for help it’s too late. Every one who could save him are gone and there is no hope left. Man just wanted friends.
In my opinion it would have been so much cooler if instead of deactivating the Patpats we instead reactivated them. I know that probably contradicts some lore or something I do not understand but I love the patpats so it would be cool to save them and that’s what leads us to glam rock bonnie
There definitely should’ve been an ending where you help all of the animatronics and they help you defeat the mimic. Maybe even Bonnie and Freddy reunite? It would’ve been so hype
Now the mystery behind Glamrock Bonnie is mostly completed, I want a story on why Fazbear didn't initially choose to create a Glamrock Foxy, it did look like they were going to thanks to the upcoming Log Flume ride and Pirates cove (in the base game) but I want to know why, maybe a 2nd DLC will go through that story, and as well give us some interactions with Glamrock Bonnie.
The foxy thing has kinda bothered me when we first saw the glamrock lineup. Everyone was mentioning bonnie but it felt like no one was mentioning foxy. I guess foxy and roxy are more similar than bonnie and monty, but still. Especially with how when I saw roxy, I immediately connected her to the wolf in twisted ones, something that also doesn't seem to get brought up.
Foxy's pirate look might not have worked with the glamrock 80's aesethic, so instead of trying to redo something that makes him iconic, they create a new character while still having Foxy as his own thing, maybe?
I just never gonna be able to get over how wasted Vanny was. Since the princess quest ending is the real one then that means we compleatly lost all chances of ever seeing her being actually used, since she barely did anything at all in the main game. The blob still haven't been used for much and there is no burntrap (apparently) so it kinda feels like most the important characters that had lots of potential have just been very very neglected. But oh well, i think there's still hope, but not for Vanny unfortunally
y'know what's funny? I had this video opened while I was watching Markiplier's RUIN -Part 6 episode where he included this exact theory, when I saw the theory and the topic of it, I was like "Hey, I think that's from the same video I have opened right now."
One thing I wish was that Cassie had some sort of reaction to it, I’m hoping there is one but it’s bugged so it’ll be fixed with the pat pat bug in the patch, here’s hoping
I'm still hoping that in the next game we can repair all the animatronics and get save everyone ending because it's very sad that at the beggining of SB we can see the band happy the last time and now in this terrible condition that they didn't deserve.
I like how Dawko is here, carefully planning a way to get to bonnie. and than Backseat just clipped through the wall by accident and found bonnie by complete accident!
I wonder what happened to Eclipse. The rebooted version of him is clearly the one which was supposed to run daycare at the pizzaplex. Did someone reprogrammed him to split into Sun and Moon? Or was it an initial bug which no one managed to fix (cause some SB messages stated that the Split personality was there for quite a while with no attempts to fix it). I hope Steel Wool could tell us more about him
I’m convinced the AR Bunny in Ruin is actually Bonnie who was sacrificed by Vanny to be used as part of the security system Knowing that getting to Gregory is a BAD THING means that the system trying to stop Cassie is a GOOD THING which would suggest not William
I’m glad we are at least got to see how his fate ended in this DLC honestly but since the next game (Ruin 2?) pretty much got confirmed through elevator ending, I still have some hope that Glamrock Bonnie might make a big comeback
Also I'll be the one to say it. I think why Monty attacked, was due to the virus. And those upgrades. And Bonnie was just there at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I feel like the bots around Glam Bonnie serves as energy or like something that is keeping him alive and active and it's when you turn them off he's just gone.. Power suppliers?
This video got me thinking about something we knew about Glamrock Bonnie in the original Security Breach. In the original game, we receive a message that tells us that Glamrock Bonnie's last known appearance was when he entered Monty Golf. This begs the question, how did Glamrock Bonnie end up in Bonnie Bowl? I can think of 3 possible explanations off the top of my head. 1. Steel Wool may have forgotten about this message when deciding to include Glamrock Bonnie behind Bonnie Bowl. 2. There may have been a vent or a passage between Monty Golf and Bonnie Bowl that is not monitored by security cameras. 3. Glamrock Bonnie may have been stored somewhere in Monty Golf until the Pizzaplex closed, and was then taken here by something or someone when no one was in the building. This is just something that stood out to me when I remembered that message from the original game.
Bonnie must have been there for Monty alone. But, he wasn't destroyed or harmed there. The story in Monty's ride could actually be true and much more tragic than it initially appeared.
I think everyone needs to remember that Bonnie's room has a secret vent leading STRAIGHT to Vanny's hideout. A vent that's only visible to people wearing the Vanny Mask.
This is a fantastic point
Vanny is at fault bro tha proves it
do any vids show this i wanna see it
@@belltempest3708 he means the Bonnie Bowl backstage in Bonnie Bowling which is required to beat the game
@@CJK_781Ah okay thank you
I love how people have discovered Glamrock Bonnie and are creating wild theories on wondering what truly happened to him. The Monty destroying theory is definitely the best option but imagine if it was somebody else bigger.
Like the mimic?
Vanny killed bonnie
It isn’t that hard to guess it was someone like Monty who ended Bonnie considering how he is known to be the most aggressive out of the crew, I still thinking that it was definitely Vanny or The Mimic who is behind of this tragedy honestly.
I mean the record clearly state Monty was the last one to leave Bonnie ball before he was stared missing so at this point it’s less of a theory and more of a fact
As a Monty fan I really dislike the theory
I do really hope we get to see more of Bonnie in the future. With the way this DLC ended with Roxanne saying "Cassie?" I know a lot of people are saying that could lead into something. Perhaps there will be more? Who knows. One can hope, however.
We got some clues that Glamrock Bonnie is indeed exist in SB Base Game.
We got to learn more lores about him and even saw how his fate ended in SB Ruin.
At this point, we should be able to meet him in person again in next SB game, it will spice the game up and SteelWool doesn’t have much to lose from this decision.
Is it just me or that "Cassie?" Sounds a bit weird.. like it's the mimic mimicking Roxy...
Just the way it was said, it's just a blank "Cassie?" And not a worried "Cassie?". Idk man I think that's the mimic
@@WolfyTheUnfunnyinteresting theory, i Personally thought that that was her reaction to Cassie possesing Roxy, because they have a deep bond and stuff yk
@@WolfyTheUnfunny idk, the Mimic would probably just leave instead of going for Cassie (it could take the way Cassie got in instead of the way she was leaving). That and Roxy could totally finish it off now that it has 1 arm, so it probably dipped anyways.
@@WolfyTheUnfunny I hope it’s not The Mimic honestly, I don’t want Roxy to be dead, same with Cassie.
It is odd that Cassie doesn't have a voice line about Glamrock Bonnie just being there and how wrecked he is. It almost feels like it was never supposed to be viewed legitimately and is purely just an Easter Egg. It would have been interesting to have a single person acknowledge the truth of what happened to him.
No you're able to get jn there by disabling all wet floor bots from the moment you get the mask. Once you've disabled them all and disbalie the last one in bonnie bowl, the little freddy curtain/door thing lifts up a bit so you can get in.
Breh why are ya suprised even gregory sometimes has no voice lines on somethings
I believe all animatronics were going to be able to have an interaction of sorts where you fix them as evidenced by dawko in the vid for an ending, and bonnie wouldve been the final secret one, but alas... yet again we are left wondering what is in the cut content wagon
So that might be why theres no voice line or reaction nor does he change anything at all in the game, its like just the barebones primal concept thrown in there and then forgotten
Well, cassie didn‘t comment on the collector pat pat either. Steel wool usually doesn‘t include voice lines for hidden stuff like this.
Maybe it’s just not cannon
I'm glad Markiplier fixed the mistakes in your theory, he needs a shoutout for his hardwork and dedication.
I can’t believe there was no shoutout for the joint work
And with him interrupting Mark? So unprofessional
And MattPat
And John from the channel FuhNaff. Can't believe he didn't get his credit!
And ID's Fantasy, all of them did really great
What Dawko said about the monty ride cutouts telling a fake story may be true. During the ride, if you look next to the final monty cutout you can see one of those AR jammers sitting next to it. Which explains why we can’t use the mask during the ride. I suspect if we were able to use the mask during the ride, it might change the cutouts to show what really happened to Bonnie, or something else like that.
Wait really?
Yeah its true and if you mod to move around the entire part of that area of the ride on top of the tornado thing there's a glamrock bonnie cutout at the top
I’m glad people are actually realizing this, it makes literally no sense that Bonnie would be destroyed if that story was true
Also, kind of a side element, the AR world is basically connected to Cassie’s psyche. It shows her dislikes, likes, fears, and memories. For example, all the Monty vending machines turn into Roxy fending machines, and we know Roxy is her favorite. Also, it seems that Cassie doesn’t like Monty too much. The only vending machines that change are Monty’s and her comment about the AR Monty plush is “It’s hard to look at.” On top of this, she comments elsewhere (for item info) that her dad’s favorite was Bonnie and that he didn’t tell her why Faz Co replaced him with Monty. So perhaps we truly would see what happened to Bonnie on the ride in AR… or maybe it would be something that her mind subconsciously thinks happened.
Perhaps, perhaps the story is half true. The "passing the torch" is a lie but we know Monty hates Freddy as seen in Monty golf where Freddy is in the trash as Monty performs on stage. In the cut out section everyone is in the spotlight, Bonnie being the closest to Monty, while Freddy is purposefully kept out of the spotlight in the dark. So my guess is that the cut out story is a mix of the made up story to frame Monty and the other half is Montys genuine feelings torwards Bonnie which are only positive, plus his programming pre mimic1 control didn't allow him to hurt anyone and on top of that his claws were significantly weaker since he wasn't a bass player animatronic.
The Monty killing Bonnie theory makes sense but also doesn't.
Monty didn't get his claw upgrades until AFTER replacing Bonnie, so he didnt have claws to do damage. The staff reported his aggression as side effects from the upgrades. In SB, Bonnie was also last seen in Monty Golf, not Bonnie Bowl, so he would've been found hidden in Monty Golf if Monty is the culprit (unless the employees took Bonnie back to his place, or rebuilt Bonnie which is why his design is so different from the Bonnie Posters in SB).
I origionally thought the corrupted staff bots killed Bonnie to use his endo for Burntrap, but it seems this isn't the case (again, unless that Bonnie was a prototype).
So now, my theory is that the Mimic might have killed Bonnie instead. It can copy voices so it could've lured Bonnie away. The Mimic also has big claws, not just Monty, and bodied Roxy in seconds (we hear it throw Roxy) like how Bonnie seemed to have been thrown into the wall. And compare the jumpscares, Monty uses his teeth. The mimic uses it's claws. The normal Mimic's jumpscare also shows it using it's claw to kill Cassie, and it's fist as the plushsuit to smash her head (like how Bonnie's head is smashed). My last evidence, is that the Mimic in the book rips apart people's arms and legs. Now look at this Bonnie's body: arm and leg joints are pulled apart. Besides, the Mimic is the only animatronic we see (apart from the staff bots and Moon in SB whom attacked Freddy) that are violent towards other animatronics. Even when Monty was raging in his room, he didn't take it out on his friends.
Also, Monty was origionally an understudy; who was trained to be able to play all the parts to replace any character in the band for showtime if they couldn't perform. So if Monty really wanted to be the main star of the band, wouldn't he just have killed Freddy and gone straight to the top?
Plus, its possible the game is giving us wrong hints to accuse Monty on purpose so that we could have a cool plot twist. Like murder mystery 💀 Why not?
Let me know your thoughts!
wait, bro is COOKING????? LET THIS DUDE COOK HE MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING
But then what’s the Mimics motive for destroying Glamrock Bonnie? Why is his body behind Bonnie Bowl? Why did Fazbear Int completely erase all memory of Glamrock Bonnie, all merchandise, a new stage room for Monty, new plushes, all this extra stuff when they could’ve just slapped a new shell on him, like Vanessa says they can do?
Mimic is a possible culprit, but I really do think it’s just Monty
I don't think it was the mimic since it was trapped under the sinkhole for a long time, my theory is that vannys staff bots did it, bonnie had his own stage in the bonnie bowl and he had a microphone with him where we find him,
I think vanny could've lured bonnie in with like a kid voice saying like "im stuck help" bonnie went and saw vanny and a bunch of staff bots and got jumped, cause the damages on bonnie looks super similar to how the fazerblast endings glamrock freddy did, the staff bots are the ones that make more sense than the mimic or monty imo since there are staff bots behind the bowling alleys
motive?
It could've been that bonnie might've known of vanny and the mimic or (unlikely) vanny knew that fazbear entertainment would've made monty replace bonnie and she tempered with monty beforehand to get anger issue when replacing bonnie.
Finally someone who agrees the monty killing Bonnie theory is a trash theory
unlikely mimic did it because mimic is supposed to be REALLY locked up in there, heck even the door was cemented over too. So mimic has ALWAYS been stuck in the basement. But I do agree with the other commenter about staffbots, because they're known to be able to "disassemble" animatronics, remember the ending with how Freddy was torn up (same as Bonnie here, same as Freddy in ruin), and "disassemble Vanny", they're known to be able to disassemble stuff.
I genuinely believe that if there's going to be another DLC, we'd explore the areas that we didn't get to see in Ruin, like the main atrium, El Chip's, the arcade behind El Chip's, Mazersize, the endoskeleton daycare, and DJ Music Man's area. We would then play as Cassie's father who's searching for her and also repair all of the animatronics. Yes, even Monty.
There will be help wanted 2
@@vikingfromnorth45 I'm aware of that. But only time will tell.
I definitely hope we’ll get more DLC or a whole new game that continues this, That cliffhanger was too much.
No please no more security breach just leave it on a cliffhanger I can’t take anymore terrible games
@@grantslater861 Even though for the most part, Ruin is far superior to the original Security Breach, and many people seem to have enjoyed it more.
Counter-points to the "Monty killed Bonnie" theory:
1) Monty is never shown as aggressive in his non-hacked / pre-SB state (Plex artwork, Golf elevator voiceline, etc.). Steel Wool have never done so either in ANY of the promo art, strangely enough. (Side note: the only Glam canonically shown with a temper is Roxy)
2) Duffle bag messages show Monty deliberately shirking his new main-stage duties... as if he doesn't want it. Completely counter to any notion of Monty wanting the spotlight.
3) Freddy pointedly calls the Glams his friends (without exception), and routinely blabs about problems around the Plex. He surely would've mentioned any doubts or suspicions about Monty.
4) Despite Faz. Ent.'s corner-cutting, doesn't quite follow that a lawsuit-paranoid company would ignore Monty being violent against people or the other Glams
5) Fun psych fact: very common symptoms of having experienced a traumatic event (e.g. the violent death of a best friend) include: eating disorders, shattered self-esteem, and uncharacteristic aggression
6) Monty only received the sharp claws (and his aggression, by coincidence) AFTER Bonnie was destroyed, so the supposed claw marks on Bonnie don't make much sense to pin on Monty. (Burntrap / The Mimic also has razor-sharp claws. And Bonnie's limbs are notably broken apart; the Mimic is well-known for dismembering its victims)
7) Monty's Golf arcade is not evidence of his ambitions; Monty surely had nothing to do with programming the game, and due to above points. (Was the game made by Monty-simping staff that hate Freddy? Already evidence of Roxy and Chica simps among staff areas)
8) Bonnies AR Collectables like his Plush and Pinata match with his Animatronic Design, therefore he never had Sunglasses to begin with, so Monty didn't steal anything from him
9) Ruin Freddy had suffered a similar damage to Glamrock Bonnie: what looks like a clawed open Chest. Was Freddy attacked by Monty too? No, He was only ever attacked by Staff Bots, they don't even have claws, and they left damages that looks like claw marks. The same thing could've happened to Bonnie
I think that Bonnie is still alive. Just not how you would think. Bonnie's soul lives on in the wet floor bots. Dont call me crazy yet. For example, disabling all 4 in the room with him makes his eyes return normal. If his eyes turned normal after disabling all of them, I think that its a possibility he was spying on everyone. So, i think his soul lived on in the Wet Floor Bots. Yes, its weird, but that is a possibility.
@@brendinvenesshe does have shades on in his neon artwork in the room behind his stage and they look the exact same as the ones monty wears
Mimic has been locked below six feet undergrounds for years. He was freed once Roxy Raceway crumbled and the Pizzaplex abandoned.
Monty's death being shocked by a neon head artwork of Bonnie, plus Bonnie's neon artwork has sunglasses too. It's just clear he did killed him.
@@DanPlotMixnah I don’t think monty killed Bonnie. The fact that monty never got his claws until AFTER Bonnie was murdered and he wasn’t acting aggressive and angry like he was until AFTER Bonnie was murdered leads us to believe that monty really did look up to Bonnie and that his death really affected him. Someone killed him but it couldn’t have been monty
The only proof that people have is that "Bonnie was last seen entering Monty Golf” and your probably thinking “It had to have been Monty that killed him!"
Thing is, they haven't been paying attention to the security and employee logs. Monty wasn't always part of the glamrock band, and believe it or not, he never wanted to be part of it. He was already the star attraction of Gator Golf, and even had his own stage where he would perform for adults and children. Monty would even go as far as ditching the main performances to hang out in Gator Golf, remembering when he was his own star.
If you’re still saying, "Monty had to have done it, because who else has claws like he does? and he has anger issues. Bonnie got himself in Monty’s way!".
Monty was given his claws AFTER Bonnie was decommissioned and eventually found. He was given them so he could play the bass. THEN, Monty started getting his anger issues, and his claws further increased his rage. Going to Gator Golf was perhaps a way to calm himself down, and prevent himself from harming anyone or anything. Besides, while remembering the days he was his own star, he would feel extreme guilt, being Bonnie's Replacement, and wishes that things went back to normal, so he could go back to Gator Golf.
W point
@nyan_ My theory? Remember the ending in the vanilla game where Vanny used the security bots to destroy Freddy?
What if she used them to destroy Bonnie?
My theory is that Monty saw bonnie get killed and someone probably canny or glitchtrap probably tray to erase it from him system but couldn’t fully erase the memory so he so angry could be pstd from seeing bonnie get killed , also could be possible that Monty looked up to bonnie
Oh my god.. someone actually using those messages????? That’s insane, everyone just ignores the Monty lord in those
I understand the points you're making but, if Monty truly wanted to go back to his place and is actually not the bad guy.. Why did he want to take Freddy's place? We know Freddy is the "main attraction". In the golf mini game don't we see a broken Glamrock Freddy?
I wonder if there is even a slim of chance for Glamrock Bonnie, Chica and Monty to still have some roles in the next SB game cause I’m really rooting for more character exploring for these three! The potentials are still there. (Eclipse too but I have a feeling that he will for sure play some major role in the next game)
Well we do have Help Wanted 2 coming up this year.
@@markevans1054 I think we will probably only getting more Glitchtrap & Vanny infos from that but anything could happen so I’m not sure
@@fnanythingilikedaf3031Conisdering how much content the first game had, the sequel will most likely be bigger so they're probably gonna have more SL, FFPS and Security Breach based minigames
@@markevans1054 I think Help Wanted 2 will continue on Vanessa’s story, Why? Because In the trailer, Dread Unit says, “You’ve done an adequate enough job the first time around to have you back.” Which could mean he’s talking about Vanessa, So yeah, I think Vanessa will be the MC again.
MY BROTHER IN CHRIST MONTY IS *DEAD*
Didnt even mention mark ONCE! Truly despicable. Everyone knows bonnie died on accident and monty helped secure the area
Something I’d like to point out; in all of the endings with the Mimic, Roxanne Wolf appears. She had been previously trapped under a forklift and her node was deactivated, which was something we HAD to do to progress, but somehow, she was reactivated, she got herself unstuck, found her way down to the Pizzeria Simulator area without us knowing and managed to get there just in time to save Cassie. Did someone reactivate and free her?
true, why is nobody talking about this?
That’s true… I wonder how ;o
😨😨😃😃😃😃😭🥺
I do wish that there was a "recommission" ending, where you fix the animatronics. Cause the regular animatronics aren't inherently evil, they were just under the control of Vanny. And a lot of people wished that we could somehow save the animatronics.
That part with roxy absolutely breaks my heart, and so did seeing chica get more and more beaten up
There are fan made videos of that from the first game.
Regardless of how Bonnie was destroyed, I think the reason the Pizzaplex went through rebranding with Monty and having him take Bonnie's place is because Fazbear Entertainment just has no idea where Bonnie is to begin with. Where we find him is in an obscure back room with no natural doors into it, so it makes sense nobody would think to look there. Bonnie himself doesn't even look all that bad compared to the other shattered/ruined animatronics, and considering there's logs from Security Breach that talk about how both Chica and Monty had been decommissioned prior to the game in the exact manner Gregory decommissioned them, there's no reason for them not to repair Bonnie and just let the animatronic go to waste. Vanessa herself said they could just slap their casing on a new endo, and just like with Chica in the trash compactor they'd probably find a way to blame some employee and take the cost out of their paycheck. It's my belief Fazbear Entertainment has no idea what happened and probably think he's lost in the Pizzaplex or was stolen; hence why there was no officially approved response to the question "where's Bonnie," and possibly one of the leading factors to the creation of the Security STAFF Bots, so there could be eyes everywhere in the Pizzaplex during their closing hours. What I think supports this idea completely is the newspaper from Security Breach's loading dock ending: Freddy leaves the Pizzaplex with Gregory, all the employees and staff have no idea what happened to their star attraction, so they just replace him with Mr. Hippo. It's exactly what happened with Bonnie. Even in that photo all the other glam rocks are repaired, proving they could repair Bonnie if they just knew where he was.
I'd been thinking the same thing! It seems they lost track of him in Monty Golf and never found him again, then decided the best thing to do was introduce Monty into the band! I never believed Monty was the one who killed Bonnie, because it seemed too... cut and dry of a story point. Like a red herring that's distracting us from the truth, or from the real questions that need to be asked.
To be honest, with this and the other theories in the comment section of this video we might be close to cracking the code as to what happened Glamrock Bonnie and why he was replaced
Except in another message, it states that's Bonnie been "Out of commission", which is why Monty replaced him to begin with.
@@spencerman07 While it is true "out of commission" generally means something is broken or not working, it could also just be used to refer to something not in service; in it's modern use it is also very common terminology for machinery, so it could just be the global phrase Fazbear Entertainment uses for an animatronic that can't perform regardless of reason. Evidence already suggests Parts & Service are more than capable of fixing decommissioned animatronics no matter the damage, so it makes more sense to just fix Bonnie if they found him and knew his condition than to completely retcon him and his imagery out of the band and Pizzaplex.
The amount of energy this man always has never stops amazing me 😭💀
True
amazes alot of people
goes to show when you do what you love for a living it's never really work 😂❤
i know right? compared to markiplier he is SUPER energetic. my brother thinks of him as an average loud youtuber, and he is almost right. he is a loud youtuber, but not an average loud youtuber>;)
@@gilbertgoosey yeah but markiplier is still great tho
The thing that messes me up about Bonnie's death is how personal it feels; the claw marks alone feel animalistic, like a fit of rage however the bowling ball caving his head in feels so intentional and visceral, like a weapon in an actual murder scene. Slashing him was bad enough but cracking his head open feels so much more cruel.
Monty is not the type of guy who will plan a death like that. Bonnies death is way too convenient. Alone, in a room no one can find, no security footage or deleted security footage. The bowling ball was used to kill Bonnie and then the one who did it (spoilers it's Vanny, their rooms are next to each other making Bonnie easily a witness at any given time) added the claw marks and used green paint around it to frame Monty just in case staff, somehow find Bonnie and questions start to raise.
i believe its the mimic. its never mentionned how long "a really long time" is, and he is in possession of a walkie talkie. the mimic slowly lured bonnie with montys voice, making sure he doesnt encounter the real monty in the way. he then beat him up, ripped his limbs and made it look like montys fault. why? no idea 😅. but i believe he was imprisoned for that incident
So funny to me that all of other Glamrocks were hit with so much more, and still active, while Glamrock Bonnie with couple of hits and is already done for. There's might the lore behind it.
I saw a theory that Vanny took some of his endo to build burntrap so if that's true he can't get up 🥺
Well, Glamrock Bonnie's eyes are still active. I think it's likely that the damage he's suffered has disabled his voice box so he can't communicate. He also can't move for obvious reasons. But he is still there.
They bodied him lmao. Literally obliterated him. I think repairing Gregory’s damage and taking down the mimic would have been a great ending.
@@Jumpyman_thegamerYT Glamrock Bonnie still sends a distress signal which is why the pat pats are the key to finding him.
loved markiplier’s collab with you i personally think monty tried to warn bonnie the floor was slippery with the signs but was sadly too late 😭
At 11:04, I would also point out that Bonnie's left leg has been severed from his body, and in addition to what specifically look like leg joints on the ground, his face is intact. This perfectly explains/backs up/legitimizes the idea that his parts were fused to Afton's corpse in S.B. Afton only had one Bonnie foot, not two. Based on how it's disconnected and based on real physics/practicality, I believe this is a shell of Bonnie. His left foot is there. But it's just the shell. The actual endo section, both of them actually. Were taken in order to use on Afton. It's just that Vanessa or whoever, didn't bother to reconnect one of his two legs. The other leg's endo, can be found laying on a table in S.B. You can tell because the metal's stained blue. I believe what happened is that let's say, "Vanny". Tried to remove the whole left leg endo section, by separating it at the knee joint. But doing so, physically broke off too many core components of the leg, so it was worthless. Hence why discards it somewhere near the sticky notes room. So she tries again. THIS TIME HOWEVER, she goes through the pelvic section and disconnects the right leg from WITHIN. I believe the extra parts that Dawko sees here, are either the broken off parts from her first attempt, or they are components she removed from the pelvis & spine area to better access his right leg.
Maybe your onto something.
There's a lil problem with that, and it's burntrap, who is the mimic, not afton. Unless mimic used parts of bonnie's endo to fabricate a springtrap-like shell so the mimic woukld try to "be" like afton
@x-nimator9997 I don’t think burntrap has the original mimic that we saw in Ruin inside of him. I think it is more so just one of the regular endo skeletons (which also have a mimicking learning AI as seen through pictures in the base game). Thus, I think it makes sense for Bonnie’s parts to be used in burntrap while still having mimic elements…. If burntrap is even real, though, or a figment of Gregory’s imagination. At least we know the blob is real.
@@x-nimator9997 MMMM YES, this metallic creature with superstrength and really high intelligence will slowly walk around trying to hack computers, while it can simply go and tear Gregory to SHREDS. I don't think those old doors would do ANYTHING to stop the mimic dude.
burntrap is in the game but just as glitchtrap
What a great collab between Dawko, Markiplier, and MatPat! Watch the endings of their latest vids to understand!
Dont forget john from fuhnaff
@@Anubonekor ID from ID’s Fantasy
@@helenaperez4343 and Rose Jay (rdm micro RUclipsr i found)
HEY U FORGOT RYETOAST TOO
@@Kchar_go He came later
So i know Monty is one of the main theories but there's another one that i actually really like:
The Idea is that Bonnie was one of the first Animatronics to get affected by the Mimic Virus and eventually it got worse and worse until the day where it was about to fully take over he went over and passed on his Guitar and Glasses to Monty just like the Story says and then went back to Bonnie Bowl (You also have to remember, at this point Monty DID NOT HAVE THE CLAWS, he only got the sharp claws AFTER Bonnie was out of commission) and he went Berserk while fighting back the Virus, clawing at his chest in pain and banging his head against the wall (remember he would've had the claws as well because their necessary for the Guitar) and then Bashing his OWN head in the with Bowling Ball destroying himself in a secluded location to prevent the Virus from spreading, then he ended up taking control of the Pat-Pat's so he can still watch over his friends even if he's destroyed, but then he has to watch as they too get affected by the virus and ends up linked to the Pat-Pat's through Agony (which would explain why we hear them crying and screaming, it's Bonnie frustrated that his death meant nothing)
it's a very dark and grimm theory but it makes sense and it goes along with Bonnie being the smart and empathetic type of character we're lacking from the current roster
I could see him committing suicide but I don't think he has agony they aren't possessed remember they don't have agony or remnant or souls I wish this theory was true but it just can't be
@@Toy_freddyofficial1 not necessarily agony possessed but these robots do have feelings and personality's, i should be more specific that he's IN agony and through that his anger and frustration allows him (or gives him the idea) to link up to the Pat-Pat's
Monty had to witness that.
Makes complete sense. Was looking for someone saying this.
@@CleanUpNick that could be possible.
By finding the mostly intact body of Bonnie, that contradicts the theory that Vanessa used pieces of Bonnie to build Burntrap. just in case he is still out there.
People keep saying it has to be Monty since Bonnie has claw marks across his chest. Problem with that theory is that Monty doesn't get claws until Bonnie gets decommissioned. And Monty doesn't have any aggressive tendencies until the claws are installed, at which point he starts smashing things. He also straight up skips performances, so he probably doesn't even like being in the spotlight that much.
On top of all that, Bonnie's last whereabouts known to staff was in Monty's Gator Golf. So, how is it that a hulking Gator carrying a hulking Bunny could sneak across the pizzaplex to Bonnie Bowling and stash him in the back of the bowling alley, where a camera is pointed towards, without being noticed? It doesn't quite add up.
Monty is the guy that went through Bonnie's death the worst out of the Glamrocks. He doesn't own a bowling ball because he has seen how Bonnie died and ran away.
I think that Bonnie is still alive. Just not how you would think. Bonnie's soul lives on in the wet floor bots. Dont call me crazy yet. For example, disabling all 4 in the room with him makes his eyes return normal. If his eyes turned normal after disabling all of them, I think that its a possibility he was spying on everyone. So, i think his soul lived on in the Wet Floor Bots. Yes, its weird, but that is a possibility.
@@justice8718if he became like that bc of his disappearance, they must've been rlly close
Monty probably didn't even bring Bonnie into his area, it was probably employees in an attempt to hide it away from kids
Exactly.
i'm so glad you did a collab with markiplier
The thing is, theres probably still many secrets we missed. Something as small as pressing certain buttons on the keyboard/controller in a certain spot.
It looks so violent. Which is surprising cause. This franchise is all about murder but it’s only ever spoken about not really shown so it’s kinda cool to see him there like that
I have some thoughts about the Glam rock Bonnie situation. A lot of people are saying that the "origin" story for Monty is a sort of cover for Bonnie's death, but this leaves a lot of questions in the air;
1) Something to keep in mind is there has to be some truth (if not all) with the origin story to the ride, because it's heavily implied that Monty killed Bonnie, meaning that Monty was a character added prior to Bonnie's "disappearance". So what was Monty's role? Let's assume that the story is legit; Monty was a young gator from a swamp that aspired to be a musician, and was a fan of Freddy's band. Perhaps he was even a fan specifically to Bonnie his favorite member. Bonnie recognized his talent, and gave him one of his guitars (so he wouldn't have to play on a handcrafted banjo anymore) and Roxy gave him a makeover. The last cutout we see of Monty is him standing alone performing, so he could've been a solo act while Bonnie (who could have multiple guitars) stayed with the band. This begs the question why Monty would feel the need to destroy Bonnie to fill his spot, if he was successful on his own.
2) from a logistics standpoint, it makes no sense for the company to basically retcon Bonnie after his disappearance. While i agree that covering things up is something Fazbear Entertainment is infamous for, when you stop to think about the AMPLE amount of endoskeletons they have at their disposal, it becomes irrational. They have the parts, they have the tech, and the have the programming to just make (or repair) Bonnie. Even Freddy points out in the main game that there has to be several of him, and has an existential crisis.
All I'm saying is something just isn't exactly lining up right. There has to be a deeper reason as to why the company was quick "retcon" Bonnie, instead of just repairing him, or even build a new one. But I'd certainly like to hear everyone's thoughts on this.
loved your collab with markiplier
can't believe Dawko didn't give Mark his credit for this theory.
😔
It looked to me like the "Pat pats" were keeping him active. Probably hoping someone would eventually find him and repair him. And someone would have hit him with the bowling ball FIRST, then would have opened him up. It definitely looks like someone was looking for something inside GrB. It doesn't look like the voicebox was taken so it would have to have been something else unique to Bonnie that let him play the guitar.
Dawko is giving us more FNAF lore like it's a never ending
Bro I keep seeing you 😅
He hasn’t even gotten to the lore videos yet, we’re just getting started
I hope thats the plan, I want to see more
@@Dissirlly It's not even funny 😡
@@Dissirlly Shut up and let Roxy comment!
Cassie and Gregory seem to be character foils or at least opposite in nature. Gregory destroys the animatronics and is apathetic towards them while, on the other hand, Cassie repairs them (at least Eclipse and Chica) and is very compassionate towards them. They were hunting her down similarly to how they were hunting Greg down, but Cassie still had empathy for the animatronics while Gregory met them with (unnecessary) violence. It is super interesting, and I would say it’s even intentional.
Seeing that Roxy and Cassie are best friends was so wholesome, ngl.
he’s definitely a robot and is that patient person people be talking about. I thought that was clear since SB considering how he does not care one bit about them animatronics except for Freddy. I do like the Idea of each SB game having a guardian of some sort. I hope if there’s a next game we get some closure on Gregory and Freddy and where they are, I’m still so attached to GlamRock Freddy.
“Unnecessarily”? Are you actually serious rn? The kid was in survival mode and did what he thought would protect him at all cost. He wasn’t armed, he’s small, and he has giant highly intelligent machines chasing him down. Wtf was he supposed to do? Comments like this that criticizes Gregory’s decision when he’s in a harmful environment under attack with glitched animatronics controlled to hunt for him are so unbelievably tone deaf and ironically enough -unempathetic towards his character. In Gregory’s jumpscares, the animatronics are hinted in attacking him or killing him so why would an equal amount of attack towards them in his defense be demonized and questionable??
You guys are literally acting like you wouldn’t do the same had you been in his situation??? No one shows empathy towards someone or something that brings harm and violence towards them. Gregory’s survival decisions were absolutely understandable and justified. People who think otherwise are weirdos.
Heck, Cassie even cried over having to shut down Roxy, as she was the last security node to be deactivated.
Loved your collab with mark you two did an amazing work, theorising.
So lucky for you to be able to collaborate with big RUclips Markiplier!
and matpat
I don't think it's Monty who killed Bonnie. Monty is too isolated to want a stage (seeing as he always goes to the catwalks to get away from everything). Seeing as he idolized Bonnie, he wouldn't do this to Bonnie purposefully. Also, he wouldn't have the claws unless Bonnie was gone, so Monty couldn't have been the one to rip Bonnie apart.
His programming also wouldn't allow him to hurt anything, it's only when mimic1 is in control through Vanny when he goes on a rampage. It seems Monty wanted to be with Bonnie rather than replace him which is why he has a hatred for Freddy who were close friends with Bonnie as seen in the poster in Bonnies room.
Markiplier had the right idea. Like he said, the show must go on. It might've sucked that he didn't tell anybody about Bonnie, but if he did, they would've been devastated.
Lmao I love how you and mark found glam rock Bonnie together.
Hey, Matt was there, too. Gotta give him his due credit as well.
Great colab with Markiplier
I still think that Vanny was planning to use Bonnie's body for the mimic, but in the canon timeline she never got that far because she was freed by Gregory. I also think that is why Burntrap doesn't exist in Ruin and why Vanessa and Gregory know about the Mimic. After being freed Vanessa told Gregory about the monster in the basement that she had been working for. Vanessa, Gregory, and Freddy decide to lock the Mimic up and create M.X.E.S to keep it down there.
Just had a thought, in Base Security Breach, Vanessa says that while Freddy is out of Comission, Monty will run the shows. Then in this DLC, Monty was the last member to join the band. Wouldn't Chica have had seniority. Not even counting Roxy because we don't know when she joined the band, but wouldn't Chica have been in the band longer than Monty?
Just a thought, but Freddy and Monty have the same body type, so perhaps Monty is compatible with equipment and whatnot that Chica or Roxy wouldn't be able to work with. Things like the chest cavity? Or, it could have been a scare tactic to try and get Freddy to admit it too. Freddy did say she just got done giving him a routine checkup, which she might not be doing if she was really planning to scrap him and had suspicions that he was working with Gregory.
Wanted to comment on you saying about how the cutouts is just a cover up. Above the final Monty cutout, there's a Bonnie cutout of him falling. I don't think it's a cover up, I think either an endo killed him, cuz I think there strong enough to slash Bonnie's stomach open, and we did see a lot of endos in Bonnie Bowl in the base game, or it's Vanny's work.
I heard someone else say (Unofficially of course) that Monty actually looked up to Bonnie and really just wants to Destroy Freddy. I want to say that Monty was maybe forced to destroy Bonnie, maybe by Vanny, but it’s clear to see that all of Bonnie is there, so no Parts were used to Build Burntrap. But this is all just wishful thinking.
Edit: Maybe if a Animatronic Repair Ending is added, we can ALSO Repair Bonnie. It’d be awesome to play as Cassie with 5 Animatronics backing her up and being able to switch between them to use their Abilities. If we get a Replacement Head for Freddy though, the real Freddy Head (that Gregory might still have) would have an Existential Crisis.
I think I’m the books it’s stated he was already aggressive, it wasn’t until the story teller virus is what pushed his limit
@@just_that_fan7796The aggression mentioned in the books was more like a stereotypical rockstar (with the smashing instruments up onstage as well as his green room) and he's mentioned as being harmless towards others until he gets infected by the Mimic1 program/virus. It should be noted that Glamrock Bonnie is not mentioned as a character in this story, only Bonnie Bowl is mentioned.
Although if you look at any bit of Monty and bonnie together he always looks at peace near bonnie also Monty has nothing against Freddy besides maybe a rivalry between males since alligators do that irl when they see a man near a girl they like and Monty has a lot of Roxy pictures in Monty golf not saying it's true but hey she gave him the makeover
I like how you totally edit out markpiler and didn’t give him Credit
Uhhhh what bout MatPatPatPat?! He was COMPLETELY erased from both vids! Shameless creators *smhmh my head!*
Awesome as the DLC is, it really doesn’t tie up many loose ends. We still don’t know what’s up with the Blob, Burntrap, and of course now we have all the new bits like MXES and the mimic’s costumes, but it’s so cool to finally get some closure for Glamrock Bonnie if nothing else. Maybe this is here because of that cut ‘repair the animatronics’ ending, and we would’ve gotten to see him up and running with the rest, but that’s all in the nonexistent past now
bro burntrap and blob arent canon the afton ending was proven to not be cannon it was pricess quest hees why: there is a room completley based on princess quest it has the sword and it has the pq glitchtrap on the wall and freddy is missing his head and in the princess quest ending gregpry takes freddys head and all non canon endings have drawings of them as a collectible and guess what theres one for afton ending even in the description cassie is confused
@@tabbyearth8377 You can see the Blob at the beginning of this game, and you visit Burntrap’s charging station though you can’t see inside it. Even them being confirmed ‘non-canon’ would be more info than we have right now, which is just that they probably exist
@@tabbyearth8377 I understand you point my guy, but why would it be called the "Cannon ending" in the base game? only way I can make sense of that is ruin is like a alternate timeline or something idk.
@@aedaniammx7559 Plus burntrap is way better than the mimic. the mimic is lame, he just looks like an endoskeleton. very bland design.
@@MegaDudeman21 No but ok.
Markiplier collabed with you
I love your energy man! Keep up the work Dawko ❤
Yknow, I get the feeling helping fix all the animatronics (or at least some) would have been part of the ending too. There are a few extra mascot suits in the area we first meet the Mimic, perhaps the fixed animatronics were supposed to play an additional role in helping keep them at bay? Similar to how Roxy does the Mimic in the Lion costume. Of course this is assuming it can control them too.
I just find it strange how in that final room there are other costumes that go unused and we only see in shadow (as far as I know, I haven't caught up with the full extent of discovered things lol)
The costumes aren't animatronics, they're just costumes designed for humans.
I believe Markiplier's Bonnie bowling ball, Monty's red hair, etc etc theory.
I really appreciate that he spoke to Ray about the issue of finding all the pat pats to unlock glamrock bonnie and he wanted to unlock the secret how it was meant to be unlocked
LOL poor Dawko, man just saw Marks video and I didn’t expect to see you in it but it was a nice surprise nonetheless
Also I’ve always loved the name Pat- Pat ( because Dawko ‘Pat Pat’ s their heads ) and always called them that since your first Security Breach playthrough
After that ride's story, I refuse to believe Monty had destroyed Glamrock Bonnie willingly.
@@mikeyplayzwrld The claw marks would suggest otherwise.
@@superultimatexlrfire462didn't monty only get those claws after replacing bonnie?
@@mikeyplayzwrld I have, and that isn't something Fazbear Ent would design an animatronic with before something like that.
@@lisahenry20 The fact Fazbear Ent. designed him says otherwise. That's not exactlya thing they'd do with their designs.
Plus, how tf wouldBonnie et those clawmarks if the whole time the MIMMIC was under the pizzaplex, huh?
I've been having a lot of back and forth discussion with friends regarding Glamrock Bonnie and Monty. There's evidence to support both sides: I'll write our thoughts down below, feel free to read and bounce back ideas/theories!!
What we know from the memos: Bonnie was last seen entering Monty Golf, his disappearance/decommission wasn't planned since children are asking where he is and employees don't have a "company approved response (the gondola ride with Monty's 'origin story' is the official company response to soothe child fans for bonnie)," management thought to capitalize on Monty after Bonnie's decomissioning, Monty escapes performances to hide on the catwalks of his golf course, and that the claw upgrade makes him aggressive/destroy objects.
Bonnie is found completely done in: his exoskeleton is crushed in various places, and there's 3 claw marks on his chest slashing diagonally. Additionally, there's something green on his chest--it CAN'T be green mold, since metal is a mold-resistant material. It could be green paint transferring from a hard-enough swipe due to friction, but who knows.
I don't think the Mimic killed Bonnie. Gregory at the end of ruin explains that the Mimic has been trapped there for a LONG while. And it's only NOW able to get out because Cassie disabled security. Roxy has green nails which could explain the green on Bonnie's chest, but she has no motive either. It may just be a character we have yet to meet (though this feels the weakest of the explanations).
Also, Ruin seems to be a story about closure/redemption for main cast. Chica gets her voice bank back and doesn't attack Cassie in that moment, Roxy is able to protect Cassie and even connect with her, and Moon/Sun are reunited into one again: the only character who gets no closure or redemption is Monty, and we quite literally kill/fry him in a _Bonnie neon sign_. That's ironic symbolism at it's finest, don't you think? If Steelwool is implying Monty killed bonnie, wouldn't it be narratively satisfying/justified that it's something related to Bonnie which in-turn kills Monty?
If Monty did do it, there's two possibilities: he did it of his own accord, or he did it while corrupted by Vanny.
In the meta of it all, it's probably just Steelwool not having expected bonnie to be demanded in SB, and now they're trying to rework him in and give him a story to appease fans. They're probably going for Monty being the culprit, and any inconsistencies in explanation are just inconsistencies. But I'm interested to see how this will play out in-universe, regardless of whether it's Monty's fault or not. I like his character a lot and he's very compelling. I also love glamrock Bonnie though, and I really hope he gets brought back as a functioning animatronic so Freddy can have his closure (seriously, Freddy saying he misses him in SB makes me so sad).
Something else that bothers me is that if Bonnie was a glamrock prior to Monty coming into the band, why is Bonnie Bowl in the character design of Fredbear Diner/older Bonnie? Why isn't Bonnie's look consistent with his glamrock appearance? Fazerblast and mazercise feature the glamrock counterparts of Freddy and Chica, so why is Bonnie different? My friends and I haven't figured this out either.
(EDIT: Spelling errors)
I think the Bonnie Bowl design might just come down to Steel Wool not having an official design for Glamrock Bonnie at the time
Imagine the amount of memes he'll review of Ruin once he starts another fnaf meme review
Markiplier watched this in his new video🫡
Another option for the PatPats is that they're used as cameras for glamrock Bonnie to keep an eye on everything where he couldn't move
Hope we get to see Bonnie again in the next game, because we’re definitely playing as Cassie again. Hopefully we get to see him online
We aren’t certain of that
Bro he’s dead 💀 Monty eliminated him
@@Clowngeto So why isn't Bonnie's eyes completely shut off? His eyes are still active for some reason. Not blinking or anything, but his eyes are still on.
@@Weirdman20 that doesn’t matter if his eyes are still glowing he’s cleary dead he doesn’t even have any interactions and most likely will never return
Hey, for some reason I actually was able to deactivate the PatPat at the side of the entrance through chapter select. I was just checking the cameras for the secret ending when I noticed that the PatPat was there! I thought I just didn't see him during my playthrough, but he probably wasn't there before. So I didn't have to cheat to see the Easter Egg.
I had the exact same experience. I was honestly confused to hear that there's a bug because of that
Idk if you played it on PC, but it might be a problem on the Steam version of the game, or a bug on the console version.
@@Serban_YT I played it on PC. It probably is a bug that sometimes doesn't happen. But it seems that those cases aren't common
Why people call the wet floor bots patpat ?
@@grenouillesupreme Because Dawko called them that and this is his video's comment section. Tbh, if it were anywhere else I would've called them Cleaner/Wet Floor Sign bots as well.
Loved the markipliper collab bro
let Mark talk man 😭
...So who's going to tell him about Markiplier...
There was shattered pieces of Bowling Bowl around Bonnie. To shatter one, you'd need to drop it from a 4 story building. But I somehow don't think this was Monty's doing. The emails from the game said he was last seen at Monty Golf. When did he get dragged to behind his bowling alley?
Another thing is...will this end up triggering an ending for Ruin once it's patched?
dude monty is strong af also how can u say it wasnt monty those are his claws!
@@rockycrayon3166also no because you didnt listen. you can do it legit from a fresh save file. just chapter select is bugged. it triggers no endings and why would it?
@@rockycrayon3166I wonder how whoever got him to Bonnie Bowl because surely they must have deactivated the cctv cameras or there would be proof 🤔
@@benwilkes3835 monty doesn't get the claws until *after* he becomes a member of the band, due to he needed the claws to play the bass guitar(im pretty sure thats what monty plays) bonnie had those claws beforehand, and it is infered that monty didn't become angry until after he got the claws
Thing is, Bonnie being behind the bowling alley doesnt match up to what the security emails say in security breach. They say Bonnie walked into Monty golf and vanished, so how did he end up here?
Right? I mean, there's no way Monty killed Bonnie at Monty Golf and carried his body without being seen, plus everything indicates that Bonnie was 'killed' here (the smashing on the wall and the broken bowling ball).
@@anidiotfromoverthere7110 Well there's a tarp mat below Bonnie and the bowling ball.
To be honest I think the Monty golf bit was just the last place they saw any trace of him. Then when he went back to bonnie bowl, he was possibly attacked by the real culprit
The collab with Mark was top tear
The collab with Dawko and Markiplier is the best thing to happen in this series
And Mattpat
@@markusaurelius4015 And John FuhNaff
I know a lot of people are saying that Monty couldn’t have killed Bonnie due to not having the claws or anger issues yet however I still definitely think he was at the very least aware of Bonnie’s true fate or somewhat played a part in it. That AR Jammer in the cutout section was *way* too suspicious for him to not have been somehow involved with Bonnie’s death.
Maybe he saw it and knows the true story but won't tell because of like a pact between the killer and Monty he still couldn't have done it bc he has no motive
I feel the moon did this
A: all the animatronic were prob charging around when Bonnie went to Monty golf and since the moon is free to roam when lights are off could have walked into Monty golf
B:The daycare attendant has claw like fingers under his suit that look like they can leave marks
C:Unlike Monty who we only see destroy some bots a gate and shooters the moon knocked Freddy out and is Capable of destroying bots to
Vanny did it, there are a tons of evidence like their rooms being linked and close to each other, camera footage is deleted from Bonnies death, she has logs about Bonnies location when everyone else is kept in the dark and clueless and there is a broken bowling ball next to his head. Monty wouldn't need another object to attack Bonnie, all of the animatronics attack barehanded. It's likely that the animatronics don't know anything about it, only know that he somehow died.
Its interesting, some playthroughs have alternate dialouge the cassie sandwhich, roxy saying something about catching him, the staffbot using gregory's voice.
Also a few random things like a yellow painted hand in a certain area (can't remember).
yeah im surprised know one else has caught on to this buts theres yellow paint everywhere in the game wonder what it means
I noticed that too it's weird.
@@blue-cloud-studios most of it seems to be the residental evil go where the yellow paint is but some seems random.
I think there probably is some sort of voiceline that's meant to trigger, but because of the glitch it just doesn't. The DLC does a really good job with the dialogue so I'd be surprised if they put Bonnie there and called it a day
This is such a cool easter egg! I love the environmental details like the spot on the wall and the broken bowling ball that paint a picture of what might have happened. And I love the theory that he was still "alive" somehow and trying to use the Pat-Pats to signal for help.
Nah Bonnie slipped and fell and Monty just put the floor signs up lmao
You know, the entire story of glamrock Freddy is really sad. He was created as a clone of hundreds not alone of course because he had his friends glamrock chica, roxy, and glamrock bonnie. But one day his best friend (glamrock bonnie) went missing. Slowly every one he loved died and got torn to bits including him. But when bonnie is finally found after his desperate cries for help it’s too late. Every one who could save him are gone and there is no hope left. Man just wanted friends.
Should've shouted out Mark smh
I'm here for mark's credit
In my opinion it would have been so much cooler if instead of deactivating the Patpats we instead reactivated them. I know that probably contradicts some lore or something I do not understand but I love the patpats so it would be cool to save them and that’s what leads us to glam rock bonnie
There definitely should’ve been an ending where you help all of the animatronics and they help you defeat the mimic. Maybe even Bonnie and Freddy reunite? It would’ve been so hype
Now the mystery behind Glamrock Bonnie is mostly completed, I want a story on why Fazbear didn't initially choose to create a Glamrock Foxy, it did look like they were going to thanks to the upcoming Log Flume ride and Pirates cove (in the base game) but I want to know why, maybe a 2nd DLC will go through that story, and as well give us some interactions with Glamrock Bonnie.
The foxy thing has kinda bothered me when we first saw the glamrock lineup. Everyone was mentioning bonnie but it felt like no one was mentioning foxy. I guess foxy and roxy are more similar than bonnie and monty, but still. Especially with how when I saw roxy, I immediately connected her to the wolf in twisted ones, something that also doesn't seem to get brought up.
Foxy's pirate look might not have worked with the glamrock 80's aesethic, so instead of trying to redo something that makes him iconic, they create a new character while still having Foxy as his own thing, maybe?
You know it's a good day when Dawko uploads
You mean every day?
@@Ausvwidabix2blorangeI mean, sometimes he doesn’t post.
@@Ausvwidabix2blorangegood point- 🗿
i wish my life could be good just by a youtuber posting videos
I just never gonna be able to get over how wasted Vanny was. Since the princess quest ending is the real one then that means we compleatly lost all chances of ever seeing her being actually used, since she barely did anything at all in the main game. The blob still haven't been used for much and there is no burntrap (apparently) so it kinda feels like most the important characters that had lots of potential have just been very very neglected. But oh well, i think there's still hope, but not for Vanny unfortunally
That’s so weird that he cut matpat mark and John out of this video
y'know what's funny? I had this video opened while I was watching Markiplier's RUIN -Part 6 episode where he included this exact theory, when I saw the theory and the topic of it, I was like "Hey, I think that's from the same video I have opened right now."
One thing I wish was that Cassie had some sort of reaction to it, I’m hoping there is one but it’s bugged so it’ll be fixed with the pat pat bug in the patch, here’s hoping
Honestly I love bonnies design. It might be my favorite glamrock animatronic design.
Who is here after Mark’s new video?
me
Me
I'm still hoping that in the next game we can repair all the animatronics and get save everyone ending because it's very sad that at the beggining of SB we can see the band happy the last time and now in this terrible condition that they didn't deserve.
You, Mark, Mat, and FuhNaff created the best collab. Let's hope the chain continues.😂🙏
I like how Dawko is here, carefully planning a way to get to bonnie. and than Backseat just clipped through the wall by accident and found bonnie by complete accident!
I wonder what happened to Eclipse. The rebooted version of him is clearly the one which was supposed to run daycare at the pizzaplex. Did someone reprogrammed him to split into Sun and Moon? Or was it an initial bug which no one managed to fix (cause some SB messages stated that the Split personality was there for quite a while with no attempts to fix it). I hope Steel Wool could tell us more about him
I’m convinced the AR Bunny in Ruin is actually Bonnie who was sacrificed by Vanny to be used as part of the security system
Knowing that getting to Gregory is a BAD THING means that the system trying to stop Cassie is a GOOD THING which would suggest not William
It’s a shame they didn’t do anything with Glamrock Bonnie, massive missed opportunity
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I’m glad we are at least got to see how his fate ended in this DLC honestly but since the next game (Ruin 2?) pretty much got confirmed through elevator ending, I still have some hope that Glamrock Bonnie might make a big comeback
@@fnanythingilikedaf3031 The next game is Help Wanted 2
missed opportunity? what's he going to do hes dead-ish lol
Maybe they could put his brain motherboard into a new Endo, then put a new Glamrock Bonnie casing on that? 🤞
5:29 Poor markiplier if only he knew that sooner
I am in AGONY with the idea that we could have saved the glamrocks but that got cut, I want that ending desperately
perfect timing to rewatch every SB episode
Love your video Dawko and keep up the great work
Also I'll be the one to say it. I think why Monty attacked, was due to the virus. And those upgrades. And Bonnie was just there at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I feel like the bots around Glam Bonnie serves as energy or like something that is keeping him alive and active and it's when you turn them off he's just gone.. Power suppliers?
Taking Bonnie's head to Fazer Blast for repares and putting it on Freddy's Body to get it under control.
I can't belive how hard dawko is working to get everything out, good job
Can't believe you didn't shout out Markiplier, Matpat, or John for helping find this secret 😞
And John don't forget John
Aw come on Dawko, you should of credited MatPat, Markiplier, FuhNaff and ID's Fantasy for helping you with this video... unacceptable!
Lmao, I wanna know Dawko's reaction to markipliers counter theory
This video got me thinking about something we knew about Glamrock Bonnie in the original Security Breach. In the original game, we receive a message that tells us that Glamrock Bonnie's last known appearance was when he entered Monty Golf. This begs the question, how did Glamrock Bonnie end up in Bonnie Bowl? I can think of 3 possible explanations off the top of my head.
1. Steel Wool may have forgotten about this message when deciding to include Glamrock Bonnie behind Bonnie Bowl.
2. There may have been a vent or a passage between Monty Golf and Bonnie Bowl that is not monitored by security cameras.
3. Glamrock Bonnie may have been stored somewhere in Monty Golf until the Pizzaplex closed, and was then taken here by something or someone when no one was in the building.
This is just something that stood out to me when I remembered that message from the original game.
Bonnie must have been there for Monty alone. But, he wasn't destroyed or harmed there. The story in Monty's ride could actually be true and much more tragic than it initially appeared.