I miss the sound. I had a new Panda twin air in 2012. Standard FWD model. Very odd engine in so much as at motorway speeds with the revs high, it was relaxing as if the revs were low. Bonkers car.
@@DrivenMadShow Im trying to think of something else with AWD to buy but really haven’t a clue. I know most time you dont need it but in the UK when the weather turns the roads are crap because councils don’t grit much of it. Ive had a Subaru Outback but it was a bit hefty on running costs unfortunately as I had finance cost on top which was a lot. I go on adventures all year round in the UK so I need AWD. Seat Leon Cupra 300ST is catching my eye and is a cash buy so I could afford to run a powerful car hopefully. As for this Fiat, id consider one again and from experience, and notice you do it as well, to avoid that lag between gears with having a turbo on a small engine, changing up quickly at low revs seems to make progress more relaxing. My Dacia Sandero 0.9TCE is the same, have to change up at low revs or it lurches somewhat.
@@oddities-whatnot as we were discussing this morning - all about cash :( and we have none left 😂 some suggestions in no particular order ...... Jeep Renegade - Duster - Kajar - Old Volvo XC70 (my fav) - Suzuki SX4 - Audi's - Jimny (cool, Naths first car) and we think there is a Mondeo AWD
Hi both, I''ve ordered a brand new Panda cross 4x4 Twin Air as they are now available in the UK with the new touchscreen which was a deal breaker for me. It arrives (hopefully) September, and the dealer offered me more part exchange on my red twin air cross 4x4 than what I paid for it 12 months ago. Two things I noticed though with the 'facelift' 2022 model is that it comes with summer tyres in the UK and not the Vector all weather tyre that's fitted to mine (apparently something to do with emissions) and also the lack of choice with colours now. The green metallic and the pastel blue are no longer available in the UK along with a few others which is a shame, I went for metallic grey with the (must have) winter pack and spare wheel. I'll change the tyres to all weather when it arrives. One other thing is on the 2022 model the ECO button is always on so you have to switch it off every time you get in it - emissions again...But the touchscreen will outweigh all the cons and I can't wait for it to arrive. I hear on the grapevine that the Panda is now staying in production until 2025 / 2026, as it's still the best selling car in Italy, so I'll keep this until it conks out as I don't want an electric Panda 4x4.
When we ordered ours (although we had to tell the dealer they still sold them 😵) we had no clue what we were getting - so the screen was a pleasant surprise - ours came with Conti eco's which are poor - the Michelin Latitudes I have on now, I cannot recommend enough - winter pack is sadly not available here, I am a right wimp, so very jealous of that option - I bang on about that eco button all the time, totally ruins the car and uses more fuel - all for emissions testing that is just (insert correct swear word here ) - an ev is very high on my list of wants - having a large solar jobby fitted later in the year (hope) really want to be off grid power and car wise, will use the car as part power storage as well car2home2car etc - dont hate me - I love ev's 🥷🏽
Great colour choice - here in Portugal the winter pack is not available, for a wimp like me, very missed - we have a T cross with heated seats ... used a surprising amount in Portugal (once acclimatised, 10 degrees is like minus 5 to me 😂)
We have an uphill drive from the coast to the mancave - if we just take that journey, we have achieved our best lowest score (if you get my drift) at 2.7l/100 !! our average over 3 months is 6.6 (no off road, then it drinks like Richard Burton - if you are old enough to know who that is :)
The only noise the car has, is an exhaust rasp - it's a vocal little engine (in a good way) and rasps away - in reality it sounds great and from the outside sounds like an aftermarket sports exhaust is on, yet its all stock - there is not a rattle as such, the car is surprisingly well screwed together.
L'auto parte sempre in eco (qualche legge dell'UE in materia di emissioni) puoi cambiarla quando vuoi - tutto ciò che fa è rendere il motore debole per superare il test delle emissioni, non (come sembra) dà un migliore risparmio di carburante - fack sulle colline usa di più mentre guidi con il piede sul pavimento.
Well, well, well --- I had to google that Mr. S -- worryingly, we live unbelievably close - Nath and his mate went paddle boarding Wednesday, now I know where :) how on earth did you know that exists 🧐
Fiat has a parallel twin with 360 degree crankshaft, which means that the cylinders fire evenly (sounds bad, for me). Parallel twin with 270 degree crank (sounds similar to a Ducati with 90 degree v-twin): ruclips.net/video/HGajnVFj7R8/видео.html Parallel twin with 315 degree twin (sounds like a Harley with 45 degree v-twin): ruclips.net/video/W5cL5pTPpM4/видео.html All Fiat had to do was use one of those crankshafts, and the Twinair would sound like that! They could then pair it with a hybrid system, and fuel it with e-fuel, to make it future proof. But what did they do instead? Stopped producing the Twinair… smh
@@DrivenMadShow WITHOUT doubt " Foreskin Jumper" Young fella is testing the suspension of Murdoch in the Portuguese hills.... But NOT by driving I add.... If Murdoch is a rocking..... DON'T come knocking 😍😍😍😍😍 It'll test the G Shackles out Jon. Oh to be young 🤭😛🤭😛🤭😛🤭😛🤭😛 Enjoy Nath. Stay lucky. Stay safe. Stay healthy. Alan L200
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I miss the sound. I had a new Panda twin air in 2012. Standard FWD model. Very odd engine in so much as at motorway speeds with the revs high, it was relaxing as if the revs were low. Bonkers car.
It surprised us, sounded like it had an aftermarket system on, love the sound - ours is a 6 speed so the motorway is OK, just OK 🤣
@@DrivenMadShow Im trying to think of something else with AWD to buy but really haven’t a clue. I know most time you dont need it but in the UK when the weather turns the roads are crap because councils don’t grit much of it. Ive had a Subaru Outback but it was a bit hefty on running costs unfortunately as I had finance cost on top which was a lot. I go on adventures all year round in the UK so I need AWD. Seat Leon Cupra 300ST is catching my eye and is a cash buy so I could afford to run a powerful car hopefully. As for this Fiat, id consider one again and from experience, and notice you do it as well, to avoid that lag between gears with having a turbo on a small engine, changing up quickly at low revs seems to make progress more relaxing. My Dacia Sandero 0.9TCE is the same, have to change up at low revs or it lurches somewhat.
@@oddities-whatnot as we were discussing this morning - all about cash :( and we have none left 😂 some suggestions in no particular order ...... Jeep Renegade - Duster - Kajar - Old Volvo XC70 (my fav) - Suzuki SX4 - Audi's - Jimny (cool, Naths first car) and we think there is a Mondeo AWD
Hi both, I''ve ordered a brand new Panda cross 4x4 Twin Air as they are now available in the UK with the new touchscreen which was a deal breaker for me. It arrives (hopefully) September, and the dealer offered me more part exchange on my red twin air cross 4x4 than what I paid for it 12 months ago. Two things I noticed though with the 'facelift' 2022 model is that it comes with summer tyres in the UK and not the Vector all weather tyre that's fitted to mine (apparently something to do with emissions) and also the lack of choice with colours now. The green metallic and the pastel blue are no longer available in the UK along with a few others which is a shame, I went for metallic grey with the (must have) winter pack and spare wheel. I'll change the tyres to all weather when it arrives. One other thing is on the 2022 model the ECO button is always on so you have to switch it off every time you get in it - emissions again...But the touchscreen will outweigh all the cons and I can't wait for it to arrive. I hear on the grapevine that the Panda is now staying in production until 2025 / 2026, as it's still the best selling car in Italy, so I'll keep this until it conks out as I don't want an electric Panda 4x4.
When we ordered ours (although we had to tell the dealer they still sold them 😵) we had no clue what we were getting - so the screen was a pleasant surprise - ours came with Conti eco's which are poor - the Michelin Latitudes I have on now, I cannot recommend enough - winter pack is sadly not available here, I am a right wimp, so very jealous of that option - I bang on about that eco button all the time, totally ruins the car and uses more fuel - all for emissions testing that is just (insert correct swear word here ) - an ev is very high on my list of wants - having a large solar jobby fitted later in the year (hope) really want to be off grid power and car wise, will use the car as part power storage as well car2home2car etc - dont hate me - I love ev's 🥷🏽
@@DrivenMadShow Do you always remember to turn the eco button off now whenever you get in it, or does it still catch you out?
Muscle mapped now for us
I ordered my panda cross 4x4 in jan 2022, and I'm still waiting.
Will you get the hybrid version ? they have dropped the twinair for whatever stupid reason - or will you get one of the last twins ?
I have one on order in the UK, minimal grey plus winter pack
Great colour choice - here in Portugal the winter pack is not available, for a wimp like me, very missed - we have a T cross with heated seats ... used a surprising amount in Portugal (once acclimatised, 10 degrees is like minus 5 to me 😂)
Where are you driving through please
Close to Alportel, north of Faro in Portugal
18:14 for me it's 6.8l/100km with more city traffic, eco, roof rack and 2.1 bar tire pressure.
We have an uphill drive from the coast to the mancave - if we just take that journey, we have achieved our best lowest score (if you get my drift) at 2.7l/100 !! our average over 3 months is 6.6 (no off road, then it drinks like Richard Burton - if you are old enough to know who that is :)
@@DrivenMadShow I had to google Richard Burton. So thank you for the compliment about my age.
Sadly I am old enough - or coffin dodger as Nath calls me
When you press throttle around 2000 rpm, some rough rattle noise comes from dashboard side (I think). Do you know the cause of this noise?
The only noise the car has, is an exhaust rasp - it's a vocal little engine (in a good way) and rasps away - in reality it sounds great and from the outside sounds like an aftermarket sports exhaust is on, yet its all stock - there is not a rattle as such, the car is surprisingly well screwed together.
Il pulsante eco si può staccare in marcia ,o si deve arrestare la marcia grazie in anticipo.
L'auto parte sempre in eco (qualche legge dell'UE in materia di emissioni) puoi cambiarla quando vuoi - tutto ciò che fa è rendere il motore debole per superare il test delle emissioni, non (come sembra) dà un migliore risparmio di carburante - fack sulle colline usa di più mentre guidi con il piede sul pavimento.
Grazie siete mitici ,un saluto dalla sicilia
Can we take a drive to Praia do Homem Nu on a hot day?
Well, well, well --- I had to google that Mr. S -- worryingly, we live unbelievably close - Nath and his mate went paddle boarding Wednesday, now I know where :) how on earth did you know that exists 🧐
Finalmente arrivata ordinata gennaio 2022 arrivata 7 settembre
È una lunga attesa :( - ne varrà la pena
I wish Fiat used a 315 or 270 degree crank for this, instead of the 360…
Way past my paygrade crank degrees 😊 boggo 2ltr diesel chugga would be perfect - tons of torque, great economy and last years 😭
Fiat has a parallel twin with 360 degree crankshaft, which means that the cylinders fire evenly (sounds bad, for me).
Parallel twin with 270 degree crank (sounds similar to a Ducati with 90 degree v-twin):
ruclips.net/video/HGajnVFj7R8/видео.html
Parallel twin with 315 degree twin (sounds like a Harley with 45 degree v-twin):
ruclips.net/video/W5cL5pTPpM4/видео.html
All Fiat had to do was use one of those crankshafts, and the Twinair would sound like that!
They could then pair it with a hybrid system, and fuel it with e-fuel, to make it future proof.
But what did they do instead? Stopped producing the Twinair… smh
Great explanation and info - and I agree with you !! missed opportunity
Comment!!
Guess who 🥷🏽
@@DrivenMadShow WITHOUT doubt " Foreskin Jumper"
Young fella is testing the suspension of Murdoch in the Portuguese hills.... But NOT by driving I add.... If Murdoch is a rocking..... DON'T come knocking 😍😍😍😍😍 It'll test the G Shackles out Jon.
Oh to be young 🤭😛🤭😛🤭😛🤭😛🤭😛
Enjoy Nath.
Stay lucky. Stay safe. Stay healthy.
Alan L200
No foreskin - its 30 here 😎
@@DrivenMadShow 21° 🌞🌞🌞🌞🌞 ere Jon
@@DrivenMadShow gagsd
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