Margee and Ravis children must be in the miniscule straits of masterful emotion at their most grim time of anguish. My unusual name being mispronounced by some others is inflammatory. One solicitor calling to buy my home called me Wailly, a bad experience I had in the sixth grade, and I scolded him and warned him not to call back. I have such pristine hate for my name being said wrong, especially taunts. I pray Margee and her surviving family will experience God's grace in greatness far surpassing their grief.
Update from Nathan I can tell you that so far I have not seen any questionable/concerning photos in both of the phones I have searched. I also have not found any questionable/concerning correspondence or data. This includes the device they supposedly found the most information.
This lady lost the love of her life, too, and hopefully not, some of her ability to trust...May God continue to console her heart, mind, emotions- her entire soul, in Jesus name. Amen.🙏🌹🤲
@@wileyparker2429 I SO Understand, Sweetheart. *My First Name Is, "Effie." Though I *Have Come To BE PROUD Of My Name, I Was Teased In Elementary School *By The Boys. OH! I Was ALSO Born, A "Parker." I SO Miss The Zacharias Couple! Whether They Were Apart Doing Different Things, THE LORD Used Each One, *MIGHTILY. INCLUDING *The Wife! Ladies ALWAYS Need To Know THEY ARE IMPORTANT, ALSO! :-( I MISS You, *My Margie! Agape.
Yes, she deserves to be left alone. She clearly loved him and was devoted to him. On the other hand, he didn't love her enough to be faithful to her. She stayed home and kept those home fires burning. He was scampering about the world, rendezvousing with very attactive young women. Instead of taking his wife on trips to exotic places, he took along young, nubile massage therapists. The saddest thing is that he did not admit it it and apologize to her before he died. Of course, he might have; but then she would be lying about not being aware of what he had done. So, I don't think that he did do that.
There are a few things that are still true: 1. Ravi was a great apologist and helped many around the world grow strong in the faith through his cogent elocution. His arguments, videos, and publications are still valuable for insight and learning. 2. Ravi serves as a warning to all Christian leaders that we can easily fall into illicit relationships and allow our physical desires to rule our lives. This is nothing new (David & Samson for example), but the wages of this sin are still deadly. 3. Teachers are held to a higher standard and will be judged more harshly on judgement day (James 3:1). I pray that Ravi repented before he died. 4. The victims he left behind are in need of prayers and help. 5. Ravi’s family is in need of prayer. Finally, we should pull together and learn from this and use it to strengthen our brotherly bonds instead of causing divisions. It’s tough to see someone you admire make a huge mistake, especially since it apparently wasn’t a one time event. Ravi will have to answer for that, but it’s out of our hands. I still admire King David even though he murdered someone for his wife. I still love Ravi even though he made a mess in his personal life. I’m even more scared that I will do something as foolish as we are all capable of it. The enemy wants us to focus on failure and would love nothing more than to continue this mess by causing others to fall. Hang tight my fellow travelers. We’re on the same side.
Thank you so much for saying that. I was going to use the same word "appalling". Nothing deserves this much vitriol and cruelty. The unkindness of people is beyond measure. No matter what his faults, Ravi taught us much of truth.
@@Rosie-ud7ul if we point out the truth of Ravi’s abuse and deceit is that really “attacking?” Or are we seeking to warn others about religious leaders who act the same way? Are we communicating compassion to all his victims some who have not received support? Let’s not assume we are “attacking. “
Recently I am loosing interest in watching anything related to Christian content because it’s like everyone is bickering at each other, it is as if online Christians make it their life’s purpose to come on RUclips or other platforms and create content to tear other Christians down all in the name of expose because “the word said to expose”🙄😒. I’m like that’s not the only scripture in the Bible. Colossians 3:12-17 New English Translation Exhortation to Unity and Love 12 Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with a heart of mercy,[a] kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience, 13 bearing with one another and forgiving[b] one another, if someone happens to have[c] a complaint against anyone else. Just as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also forgive others.[d] 14 And to all these[e] virtues[f] add[g] love, which is the perfect bond.[h] 15 Let the peace of Christ be in control in your heart (for you were in fact called as one body[i] to this peace), and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ[j] dwell in you richly, teaching and exhorting one another with all wisdom, singing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, all with grace[k] in your hearts to God. 17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him. In conclusion learn to called out your brother in love and not in pride. Merci!
@J Joseph she knows this like everyone else. Stay ON TOPIC. Read your bible and learn how Jesus treated hurting people and what he said about widows and orphans. Circle back with a comment more rooted in love next time
J Joseph-God exposes our sin to us a little at a time. It would literally kill us to really know how much we’ve offended Him-in a short period of time. This was no small thing...and she was sinned against, as well as Holy God offended. It will take years for her to process all of this. You can’t wallop her with all that transpired and expect her to easily receive, believe, accept and process it all. Have mercy on her.
@@lisaware9697 JJ is obviously a gavel slammer w/his own issues of attacking victims of heinous crimes. He needs to seek Jesus for help himself. Always the flame throwers who never see their own shortcomings & destruction.
@J Joseph your a wife cheat...you never looked at a woman and had a lustful thought...man this ain't worth destroying the ministry over. 30 years ago this wasn't even an issue, people are money hungry. Let me see someone file that isn't holding their hand out ...Even Smith Wigglesworth had a accusations made against him. Ravi fell short...he can get in line behind me.
because their motive behind the whole Ravi thing is skewed & twisted. Her wife was her last defender & that's what she got. They didn't like her stand..
The way I see it, it is to protect her. So no one could condemn her or mock her for benefitting from the organization that was condemned because it was lead by a person who has committed that crime.
@@w1lm0r4 I'm sorry Carol...but...what? You really believe they were looking at her best interests of not being "mocked" as more important than her having a place to live? Please tell me you don't really believe that.
Of course you can judge his faults just as he or other Christians can and should judge yours. We're to correct and rebuke each other in love. It's unloving not to point it out. It's unloving to leave someone in their sin, in their alcoholism, in their pornography. In the same breath, we ought to be confessing our sins to those in Christ we trust. It's exactly what Jesus did... He didn't leave the woman caught in adultery to her adultery, he loved her enough to tell her he knew about it AND he invited her to turn in a different direction and follow him. Secondly, we can also hold in tension the fact that he also blessed you. It's ok to hold on to both of those truths. The Bible is full of tensions where two things are true. It's true that we have freedom to choose and at the same time God knows everything that we'll do.
He must repent and face justice.Forgiveness doesn't involve ever being near the abuser again,but let go of it.Jesus may have used him and maybe he was for real until he gave into temptation? WAS HE AN ABUSER ALL ALONG? Was he attacked by lust Spirit demons? Or just a PIG? Maybe he was BOTH,and gave into his FLESH? Did he repent,or is he in purgatory w Epstein?
And not a hint of this before he died? I honestly cannot buy into this so called scandal. Satan works to deceive and I fear all his teachings are now ruined.
@@paulettebevilacqua5473 Yes exactly. I have so many questions and in this so-called scandal, there are so many logical fallacies. 1. Why everyone said after he passed away 2. How can someone so confidently stand against everyone if they have been continuously doing those things 3. How these apologists who find logic everywhere, never ever saw anything suspicious living with Ravi sir for these many years 4. What was Ravi sir's necessary to travel around everywhere for the gospel, standing, and sitting for so many hours even if he had been taking injections for long ago? I am from India, and My church's pastor met Ravi sir 20 years ago, even at that time he came after taking an injection for his back pain. 5. How would he do such things against Jesus when he built international ministry to defend Jesus!! Anyways, i don't care what the world says, I know he is with Jesus and I know He attacked Devil so much and Devil couldn't hurt him while he lived that's why he attacked now.
Adam, thank you for your kindness towards Margie. After the news broke, I wondered how this dear woman was coping with a situation that was so multilayered, it hurt my heart to even try to imagine her pain and suffering. Her entire life just got pulled out from under her. Pray for Margie. And yes, love one another.
Ravi had no concern what so ever for his dear wife. He only was concerned for himself. Would you defend the average person like you are defending Ravi? If not then you are a respector of person's.
Thank you for your kindness in this difficult situation. My heart breaks for Margie and her family, and I am very grateful for the teachings that Ravi gave us. His messages touched so many people, and helped me so much. Thank you for this message, Adam. I hope Margie has some comfort in knowing there are many of us who are praying for her and her family, and hold her in high honor.
Ravi Zacharias has helped to bring me closer to the knowledge of Jesus and his saving grace. I'm not interested in the life of the mesager I am more interested in the message .Men should leave judgement the Almighty God .Margie my prayers are with you and your family. May God give you and your family the strength you so need in these testing times.
@@PeaceToAll-sl1db David committed grevious sin and he lost his exaultation. Peters sin was not as serious. We all sin but should repent. Ravi, lying from the start and being a constant predator didn't repent, did he?
GOD the Father well protect her ......1peter 2:23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously;
I have been a Christian for over 30 years and have seen a lot of scandals in churches. I am ashamed at the behavior of believers who are so unforgiving and uncharitable with the families. Though it is disappointing to learn about Ravi, he has been so influential in my life especially after I lost my husband 3 years ago. People need to remember Ravi was not God, and if you know the Bible, God chooses very flawed people to do his work. We should all be praying for this family, and remember Ravi’s good work.
You are so right God Bless you!! I teach at a Christian high school and I teach World Religions and we explore WORLDVIEWS that exist today and we also explore BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY WORLDVIEWS and we compare and contrast this Godly view with current Atheistic Worldviews. One of our DVDs I use talks about Why God allows EVIL and SUFFERING. In this DVD there is a youth pastor that talks about a Pastor that had a drug problem in the past. The Pastor had a RELAPSE and the Church voted to kick out both the former Pastor AND HIS INNOCENT WIFE AND CHILDREN!! This is so wrong and makes me cry every time I hear it!! Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone!!
You might say that Ravi had good works but I say what good works? I've watched videos of him speaking at Hinduism places and mormon tabernacles and not once does he warn them of not accepting Christ as their savior. All of it tried to focus on the similarities they have. Jesus says, " I am the truth the way the life no man goes to the Father except through Me. " truth is Ravi was a business man who lived in sin who used God's money to indulge in sexual sin. He'll be known as a hypocrite who the church should see as a bad example and try not to do same thing. He's forever sorry for playing everyone, including God. May God have mercy
God uses flawed people whose hearts are changed by Him & who respond in seeking Him to teach them, to be His representatives Jn. 15v7, e.g St. Paul the ex- murderer Saul of Tarsus. Michael Franzese, ex- mafia boss, Doreen Irvine ex- prostitute & ex- witch.
@@hugoanson2135 yes, paul was an murderer but ended well Ravi did just the opposite, he started out great then ended bad that's the difference. There's no excuse for what Ravi did, he literally used God's word and values to lure innocent people in and abused them. May God have mercy
@@aservant2287you are right no excuse at all for his actions . Neither was King David( murder, adulter) and yet the word said he was just a man after Gods heart. I believe Ravi was still searching for Gods heart also.
I didn't forget to feel because no one has to instruct me with that. I don't know the Zacharias family. But, when I heard this horribly sad news about his passing and sorrowful legacy- his wife was the first I prayed for. My heart goes out to her for so many reasons. Thank you Adam for having compassion for the shoes his wife is having to walk in. Father God help her and see her through. Thanks Adam for covering this woman- I am sure your mom, wife, sister if you have any would be proud of you. :)
Thank you for enlightening people to realize the deep hurt this woman is going through. I cannot imagine her pain. She needs all the kindness we can give her. God bless Margie.
Adam, you have spoken on behalf of so many, thank you. I have found the lack of love and compassion towards the grieving Zacharias family really sad and disappointing
The Zacharias family lied, deceived and manipulated the situation with Ravi for decades - they knew about the allegations and staff were threatened - get your facts straight! Margie is living in denial - no cares about your 'heart' and you are simply defending a name and a lack of respect is what has been displayed to the victims of Ravi's depravity - and you have become the example in this - you're not! Margie knew her husband was living in other countries for months at a time - what did she think he was doing?!You're not seeking to honor anyone but yourself and this isn't about Margie this is about the countless thousands of woman that were abused by Ravi
@@gracelatour3441 I’m sure everyone would appreciate the ‘links’, to all your ‘investigative facts’. You spew plenty of anger here w/o any proof to back any of it up. I only read his partner in the spas suspected &/or was aware of his abhorrent behavior. And was angry at himself for not taking a stronger stand against him about it. But he was treading lightly on the ‘image’ & the repercussions for the ministry. This was months ago, so maybe there’s more I’ve missed, being I haven’t made it my mission to keep up 24/7. If you have more than that, as you spew, than please, _do tell_ & point to where we can all ‘see for ourselves.’ Or just end your raging about it & ask Jesus to help you w/your obvious problem.
My heart went out to Margie, the children and grandchildren the day this news broke. I was burdened especially for Margie and prayed and prayed for her broken heart, and will still pray! 💔🙏❤
I have felt the same, realizing how much they loved and supported each other. She was on my mind; I pray for you Margie! Thank you for the message you sent to family and supporters.
Thank you for this video. I was a student at Alliance Theological Seminary in the early 1980s, and Ravi was one of my professors. I also did some house sitting for him, and I met Margie and his family. Their children were quite young at the time. I liked Margie a lot; she's smart, witty and kind.
Ravi never entered through the door of the sheep of Christ. No other pastors also enter through the door, so all of them are fake; don't follow them, as you will share in their sins.
Ravi's death and discovery of his indiscretion is simply a reminder that he was a mere man, no greater or less than any one of us and as such, was just as vulnerable to earthly temptations as any one of us.
At least you understand, and you know that regardless of all that is said, Ravi is a humanbeing and was also in need of salvation, therefore all that is said and done, Ravi served the Lord and was used mightily to answer questions
@@jamestamz what if he is ? what have you done that gives you the merit to be there ? are you without sin ? have you spread the gospel as far and as wide as he has ? are you the master of God ? you humans are pitiful your limited perception only outdone by your even more limited range of thought do you think you are here on earth because God thought of you as a prime and unblemished example of this species ? a type of Christ figure here to look down upon the rest of us ? no , you are a POS just like the rest of us here , you deserve hell as surely as Ravi , as surely as I do the only difference is that I know it and you don't , because if you did , you would be quiet , because a loudmouth on death-row should know better than to attract the attention of the guards or do you think your virtue signalling here will distract God from your sins ?
There is one thing she could do that would change maybe not all but a lot: Release Lori Anne Thompson from the non disclosure agreement. As long as it looks like you are trying to keep facts from coming out, it is difficult to appreciate your perspective.
My heart goes out to Margie and the children and grandkids..I have kept you all in my prayers. I was an avid listener of Zacharias.I learnt so much truth from him and when I see his name come up I still listen to him.. Blessings and grace abound over you all. Lots of love in Jesus.
I'm pretty sure Ravi is innocent of their allegations and this is just demons using their servants yo attack a solider in Christ. If so i wouldn't dare speak a word against Ravi. Aleast bring forward some hard evidence before slandering the man because he isn't alive to defend him self any more. If he is truly innocent then God will do it for him. Once all the snakes have shown what side they are on first ofcourse.
@@arkhamkillzone There's plenty of "hard evidence" that has proved Ravi to be guilty of what he's been accused of. There is nothing wrong with having a great respect for his ministry and how God used it to strengthen the faith of others, however, that doesn't mean we should ignore truth and hurt victims even further by labeling them liars for the sake of blind loyalty. Christians are meant to seek after, and value truth and if we think that Ravi is innocent, we must have hard evidence to back that notion up. Not just a hunch. I encourage you to do the research and revise your stance. grace and peace 🤍.
@@nompilomazibuko4615 there are alot of hurt victims with Michael Jackson and Justine Bieber as well. They are all allegations tho and Justin actually challenged the rape claims and the ones accusing never showed up lol. So in this case it wouldn't surprise I'm the slightest if some are trying to have Ravi fame rub off on them. I certainly hope not but once again I have not seen any hard evidence (neither did you) cause they didn't not release any. All I see is statements off anonymous people making claims against someone who is dead. Get over it! That's what I would tell the accusers. Should have said something 2 years ago.
@@arkhamkillzone s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rzimmedia.rzim.org/assets/downloads/Report-of-Investigation.pdf I'm deeply saddened to hear a Christian say something as harsh as "get over it" to people expressing deep hurt or trauma, even if they were lying, this response is incredibly unloving. Our response should be as gracious as possible solely because of the sensitive nature of the accusations. The above is the link to the report done by an independent and credible source. It seems incredibly odd not to trust eye witness testimonies when all of the biblical and historical evidence (on literally every historical event that has ever been documented,) is based on eye witness accounts (including the life, death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ). I will no longer be responding because I don't think I have anything more to say. grace and peace.
Thank you for your kind words. I am a widow and my daughter is a widow. People are cruel to us for no reason. I had a good husband and my daughter did.too. People have been like vultures to us. Widows are not reversed or respected by people like the Bible says to do. You would not believe what we have gone through.
So hard to hear that. I am sorry to hear that. I don't know your age but I find people in our country are rude to people as they grow older...even in the church...Dear Lord, help us love one another. Forgive us for sinning against each other.
I tried to imagine what it must feel like to be told the person you have loved with all your heart, and have known and trusted completely, is not whom you believed him to be. Rather than a saint, you are being told he was a snake. Would you embrace the evidence or look for flaws in the new narrative? How do you deconstruct the memory of someone who has been a pillar of love and strength in your life? It's probably a lot easier to build a defensive wall around his shrine. I'll continue to pray that God will give Margie the strength to get through this heartbreaking ordeal. We need to have compassion for others. Thanks for demonstrating the kind of Christian compassion that we need to show.. .
Don't worry about what people have to say Margie. How they react to a situation shows who they are. My sympathies and prayers are with you. From Sri Lanka. ❤️
I am a man who has lost not one but two wives to cancer. Both of them were godly women, both beautiful inward and out. I think it would be very hard for me to accept it if someone was to come along and tell me that one of them wasn't what I thought she is! And then to find out it was true that she was a hypocrite or whatever the evidence is pointing out! I would have to literally go into second state of grief! I would have go into the process of acceptance again! Only way I could do that is God's Grace(2 Cor.12:7-11) ! Only through Christ Which strengthen s me(Phil.4:13)! And then it would be someone you lived with and loved in a marriage bond for nearly fifty years! I think in Margie's it would be a nightmare that would pretty follow for the rest of her life! So she deserves our prayers!
My adult son was brought closer to coming to the Lord (which he finally did) because of Ravi’s brilliance. This hurts my heart so much because I’ve loved him so much and will always be grateful for him.
I can understand how she feels after seeing my mother go through this. My father died 4 years ago. 30 plus years of marriage and she still lives in the same same house. That’s a hard reminder. And Paul instructed us we to take care of the widows. People won’t understand it until they go through it. Look how wicked we truly are.
What a powerful perspective, @Mr.Wood. I’m sorry for the loss of your father and I’m sure your mother knows exactly what it feels like. 30 years of marriage is a truly a beautiful thing and a testament to the love of God. Praying for your family!
We need to take care of WIDOWERS TOO!! My dad was one and the church ignored him. In fact, they told him that he should have given ME up for adoption...yet asks me 30 years later, "What is your relationship like with him?" Hypocrites!
God bless you!! The ministry failed woefully to uphold scripture in the situation. Who knows if it is a propaganda by the ministry because of all the money involved. This is a multi-million dollars ministry that Ravi built before he passed. You know what they say about the love of money...Just saying. I wont trust a ministry that is quick to kick a widow out of the house where she lived with her husband that built a great ministry because of his failures while he was here. We are dealing with the widow now not the man! where is our compassion and the heart of Christ?
@@saxmanjpr5092 Wow. After my husband died, I asked somebody in my church for help. His response? "If you can't take care of your children, you should put them up for adoption." I'm not sure that any secular group would have told me that.
Finally, a non condescending voice. People act as though that they have reached practical Holiness this side of eternity. What skeletons would we find in the most outspoken critics closest.
Appreciate that, @EdwardWicks! If I’m being transparent, I definitely know that I can have a critical heart at times as well. Sometimes it’s hard not too! It simply goes to show our NEED for our Savior and the grace and the power of God in our lives. Thanks for the encouragement and I’m glad this helped!
holiness and sexual abuse are two absolute opposites. If the allegations are true, as proven, then he was not saved. Don't act like Ravi was just "imperfect" he was in willful sin. The accusation was made while he was alive and he dismissed it with no apology. The man was evil.
This is heartbreaking! No matter what Ravi did you have a wife of 48 years that has lost a husband, regardless of what kind of person he was, what he did, she has lost the husband that SHE has known and loved, not what the public now knows and sees! How can she be expected to turn on all of the love and memories that she has known for an idea and events that was brought forward after his death!?!? The memories and thoughts of him are already painful in his absence and now she is expected to replace all of that with this new revelation that her husband isn't here to answer for!?! This man, regardless of what he has done out of her sight, is the man she has done life with for a big chunk of her life, they made decisions together, they solved problems together and now she is alone! She also has her children to think of, publicly denouncing her children's father!?!? No mother would want to do that!!!! She is stuck with her truth and now the other truth brought forth by an investigation of people that aren't close to her and now the public. Of course she is going to stand beside the man she did life with, brought children in the world with, prayed with, knelt with, how can you expect her to do anything different!?! To change everything she has ever known after he is no longer here???? I just can't even imagine what she is going through! For them to now take her house from her!?! The home with all their memories!? She is a victim in all of this, why is she being treated like she is guilty in anything other than being a devoted wife of 48 years and mother!?!?!
@@gracelatour3441 we don't know what she "knew" and their are many women that are abused that are still loyal and love their spouse. Ravi was all those things, but Margie is a victim of the him as well! She shouldn't be held accountable and treated as if she did all those things!
The women aren’t innocent. Oh gosh w everyone freak out on me now. I have been in a similar situation and while the man/men weren’t innocent, I was a participant and accepted financial help and gain. These women are not innocent
Grace Latour, you need to go back and read and put into application Galatians 6:1. If you read James 2:10, we all can be aptly called those things you so readily labeled Ravi with.
Ravi is still my hero. My sympathy is with his family; what an embarrassing situation they are in. Why are people so evil and heartless. The devil is taking full advantage in these whole situation Let God almighty be our final judge.
That poor woman, I can’t imagine the roller coast of emotions Margie must be experiencing and feeling. Disbelieve, betrayal, loss, brokenness and much more. Thank you Father God that you hold Margie in the palm of your hand, you do not condemn her or hold her responsible for the actions of her husband but rather you pour out mercy and grace with each new day.
Thank you. Well said. May we not allow our own disappointment lead us to treating Margie as anything other than a grieving widow and sister in Christ. She has suffered more than we can grasp or imagine. Let us also grieve with Margie and the family.
This was beautifully done. Thank you for doing this. I am a Christian as well and this is something that is most needed. I thank God for this. May God bless and keep you.
Ravi woke up in me my faith I was losing after yrs of going to "dead" churches. We all are sinners, we are all going to account for those sins. God bless Margie n her children. They can face the world standing up straight in faith through Christ. God bless you all.
I did at first, but when everything started trickling out and his daughter came forward along with the evidence starting back in 2017, left me with no tears to shed for him, not his family and certainly not the victims with whom I grieve for. Sorry, but have no years left for him at all. All his videos should be stripped off RUclips by the family….
Bless your heart Adam for presenting a challenging and delicate issue with a sense of sensitivity and finisse towards Ravi's widow. Praying that Margie may find peace and comfort through The Holy Spirit and from her closest loved ones and friends. This fallen world is cruel and that cruelty is not foreign from the so-called Body of Christ.
I am Catholic and I loved Ravi when he was still alive and i still do. I respect the man for what he had tried to stand for. I am grateful to him for the lessons i learned and I will not forget them nor would i forget Ravi. His deeds, he will answer to GOD but his words will remain in my heart. I do not feel anger, i only feel sorrow and my family and I will always pray for him. GOD bless his family, too.
LOL he was not christian apparently, it was an act, to sustain income, he lost faith 15 years ago, his family member and close aids said this. Anybody can act like Ravi. Anty christianity is dead really.
This is a beautiful message of Grace, Forgiveness and Mercy♥️♥️Thank you. Unfortunately social media has given so many a platform to judge everything and everyone. This is why our world is falling apart. Before I post anything about anyone I always ask God to be my hands and feet. Let what I say glorify you♥️
As a widow of nine years whose name is constantly mispronounced, I want to thank you for saying this. When we stand before God in judgement day we will stand alone for our actions. But while we are here we should be supporting each other in light of Romans 12: 9-10.
Finally, Love message to this situation! Thank You Jesus! I am so tired of public talking of many big well known preachers. Some of them sent Ravi to the hell already. Some of them provided "perfect" analyzes. But who was mostly hurt? Ravi's dear wife and Jesus. Do we know last talk of Ravi to them? Really do we know all? The full true we will know one day, day when I or you will stand before God and God will not show me, you Ravi's life but mine or yours! Keep it on your mind! Do not send to the hell any person in your mind. Because one day you could be surprise. My, your life is still running. Do you stand strongly? If yes, keep your heart humbled, it is the only ground to run to the final victory. I know what it is to fell down as a follower of Jesus Christ and wanna tell you, Jesus gives to us the chance to last possible moment to regret and to say our humbled sorry to Him and to siblings.
My heart is with the family. I married a man I never dreamed led another life entirely ... never had a clue, would never have believed it if I were told. Margie is a precious victim who lost someone she loved and trusted. So very sad. God bless you, dear Margie.
Only victims of gross deception in a marriage understand the depth of hurt and pain. Especially from husbands that are believed to be godly christians. It is so great a blow she probably questioned her entire faith in God. Only Jesus can restore such damage.
My heart goes to Margie. Ravi stays in my heart. His preachings blessed me and no bad writing about him can change my admiration and respect for him. No one is perfect. Everyone sinned and no man is exempt.
I will never believe the lies written, said, about Ravi. We know there are those out there who will do anything & every thing 2 pull Christianity down & especially those of high profile like Ravi who are not shamed 2 be know as a follower of Jesus of Nazareth. Ravi was not only highly intelligent with that amazing ability to enable the every day Jo Blo like myself to understand complex issues he also had that ability 2 mix with commoners & kings. As he got older he became more handsome yet his good looks meant nothing to him. That made him more attractive. I say 2these women who blatantly lied; the truth of this matter is; You wanted to touch him not he you. In short, Hell has no fury like a woman/ women scorned!
I'm not sure how after RZIM's reports concluded that these things have happened that people continue to hold RZ in such high regard, to victim shame after many victims, unknown to eachother, have come forward with similar accounts and proof has been presented, and proof that stand up to biblical standards, is truly baffling to me. This is a huge part of what is wrong with the church. You will protect a predator by calling victims liars and continue to put RZ on a pedestal? The bible clearly states that those who teach will be judged with greater strictness than those who do not. So we do not get to dismiss what has happened as oh he's just another sinner. This was not a stupid man. He knew what he was doing was wrong, and he chose to do it anyway in arrogance and defiance to the scriptures and God. Now there is a wake of victims, those who were sexually victimized, those who were lied to for decades, those who trusted him, those in his ministry teams, even the church. But let's continue to stick our heads in the sand and pretend this didn't happen, and blame those victims for one mans depravity. Let's keep glorifying a fallen and broken man, and not Jesus himself who demands truth, who IS TRUTH. Y'all need to go back to scripture and pray for God to open your eyes, as you are not seeing truth, you're actually actively denying truth and that is not a biblical response to what has happened here.
Thank you for this episode . To those who are bullying the legacy of Ravi let us remember what Jesus said "who among you is sinless cast the first stone"
Matsung longkumer, “ bullying the legacy of Ravi”? Seriously? Can’t you accept the truth of his behavior? It’s not “bullying” Ravi when we tell you what he did, how he treated vulnerable women and others. Do your research.
@@kurtanderson5023 then you the elec! That can cast the first stone!!? Kurt one day we all be in the judgement day to pay for what we did! But now in this earth we need to pray for our brothers and sisters encourage them according to the Bible! Maybe you and a lot people like you need to read more the scriptures and let the judgment to the lord that knows everything
@@deliarobinson3185 I always appreciate the encouragement to read and study Gods Word. But that isn’t the issue here. Ravi harmed and manipulated many innocent people. That’s a fact and there is evidence. Commenters like myself have a moral obligation to point out, using Gods love, what Ravi did. Or what others do to innocent victims. Our desire is to follow the steps that Paul told Timothy to follow. You can “encourage” those who mistreat others like Ravi did. But I won’t. I will disqualify them from the ministry and warn others about their manipulative, deceitful behavior. That is the Biblical response that God demands of us. Do you want to protect innocent people or allow them to be harmed injured and violated?
I do not believe for one minute that your statement is true. That has not happened in the Christian community. There is zero "vile mob mentality" concerning what has happened to Margie or Ravi. To talk about what's happened is a very healthy thing that families do. We cannot always be talking about sunshine & puppies. We must discuss all topics openly bcuz Ravi's sin was done openly. Margie has to stuff bcuz those are the consequences. Sad but true.
I appreciate the sentiment. Many Christians have done well in this matter. Many people are truly heartbroken - and we should never follow the world with words of disrespect to Margie.
@@marcieanderson3762 What a sad representation of ‘Christians’ you are. If you are one. I pity you. Ask Jesus to help you see what you don’t. And to forgive you for your blindness. Apparently you haven’t read much in comments on other videos made by those like you, who are almost gleefully spewing their personal takes on this horror show. Even some vile spewers on this one.
If there’s one thing Evangelical Christians love to do, it’s to condemn other Christians. That Pharisee up at the front of the sanctuary never knew he was surrounded by a great host of The Holier Than Them.
All love and appreciation to Margie and family. Ravi taught me, and I listen to his sermons today. I loved him and always appreciate his brilliance and teachings. May God continue in love, strengthen, and providing for Margie and family.
The enemy knows that Jesus is coming soon that is why he is so angry with the good news that Ravi spread. I grew a lot by listening to his teachings.No matter what the enemy do the Spirit will let the seeds grow that had fallen in good ground. He did what he had to teach the good news and he is now going to get the crown 👑 that he was working for amen
Thank you for remembering that we are not here to criticize and vilify each other when things go wrong. Margie is a human being who loved her husband and her world crashed when he died. My heart broke for her and her children and grandchildren. God will carry her through this, however we should help not hinder that journey.
100% True! This Man Is Condemning Ravi Over And Over And Trying To Make Is Channel Famous SHAME ON HIM? Guilty Or Not Judgement Belongs To God! Not For Morons Like This?
Just saw the 2013 Sermon "What does it mean to be Human." It is probably one of the greatest sermons I've seen and heard in my life. I wish God would have used me to speak in that fashion and manner. Great Sermon! Great Sermon!
Many did. Try to keep that in the forefront. It will get easier as time allows. He was well versed in his mind. It doesn’t appear to have reached the depths of his heart, however. His final destination is between him & God. I would think he begged forgiveness on his deathbed. Just sad he didn’t from Margie. :/
I met him when he was in Jakarta, it was an honor meeting him. Whatever he did when he was still alive, we must remember that he was a human, we worship our Lord Jesus Christ. We must forgive and move on and that’s what being Christian is!!!
There's being human then repenting. Then there is living a lifestyle of lies, adultery, manipulation, rape and taking from God to finance it all and using His name as a shield to cover it up and crush others in the process. Read the investigation on what they found out he did. I heard it read to me and wanted a bath afterwards. Christians CANNOT sweep this under a rug. If we do, we alienate every victim of sexual abuse that we should be reaching out to and make ourselves a mockery for a double standard of morality. I'm not saying we should bury RZ's family, it's likely they are his victims too. But we cannot make light of this and call ourselves a people that fear God. The truth is God hates this behavior more RZ's victims do. The situation is horrifying and tragic.
Mimi Gee. Amen. I thank our LORD, that I gleaned from Brother Ravi's teachings, many truths for my growth, as a Christian. I shall ever be grateful to our LORD, for using Brother Raviis teachings, to feed the multitudes. All other things I offer into YOUR HANDS, in JESUS NAME Amen.
@@Stranger_Than_Fiction299 I agree with your statement 100 percent. We all sin but when we ask God for forgiveness then we are to stop the sinful behavior. I feel for his family and all who trusted him!
The choice is ours. One of the best sermons that I’ve ever heard came from Ravi at Mount Paran years ago. Do I throw the sermon away? The word that he preached is still the word. The word doesn’t change, no matter who preaches it. When I hear the word my answer should always be amen! There are scores of videos here that Ravi left, and the Holy Spirit can still guide the unbeliever with them, or they can be used for study. What Ravi did in answering questions people have about the gospel is something we all should be able to do.
My heart has been broken for Margie since the first rumor of this detestable situation came up. She has been in prayers constantly. It is beyond the scope of my imagination what she must be going through. May God's grace, wisdom, strength and comfort envelope her constantly. Thank you so much for posting this. Blessings to you.
Thank you Adam. As always your kindness and passion for the truth shines though! I feel so for Margie and the family. It is time to let them grieve in peace now!
I have been careful not to listen to many peoples' commentary regarding Ravi's legacy. I felt compelled to watch this video. You eloquently provided a snapshot to allow us to see into Margie's experience. Acknowledging the depth and complexity of her grieving experience, which from the outside looking has been trivialized. Thank you for your Christ-hearted response.
@ForeverSong This means a lot, thank you! Like I share in the video, I honestly had NO intention of speaking into this, especially with so many other videos that I’ve done. Then I decided to pray about it and ask the Lord what HE wanted as opposed to MY plans-always a dangerous move 🙂. He allowed me the “snapshot” that you mentioned and it was Him and ONLY Him! You’ve encouraged my heart and I want to thank you for confirming that I made the right choice by stepping out in faith on this one. Thanks for being a blessing!
It has truly broken my heart that a grieving widow is being treated this way. No compassion for her and what she must be going through! Thank you, Adam, for saying what has been on my heart. Have I become so obsessed with justice that i have forgotten that Christ commands me to forgive everyone who sins against .me? This is the same Jesus Who prayed. "Father, forgive them, " as they were nailing his hands and feet to a Cross, where he sufferwd and died for MY sins!
Satan knows everyone's weakness. Satan must have worked hard against Ravi because he had such important things to say. Ravi was human as we all are. He sinned and so do we all. "He who has not sinned may cast the first stone." God bless Margi.
Except that this was at least a decade long, methodically planned out abuse and manipulation of women. This wasn't a temporary fall into temptation. He had women he abused PRAY with him, thanking God for the opportunity to share sex with him. Then he warned them not to tell, because if people thought he was evil, thousands of people would turn away from God. That is pure evil. This is beyond normal. God does not expect us to rub the guys shoulder in understanding and comfort. God would more likely call him a snake and viper. Do not feel obligated to feel compassionate toward him.
I have walked through the heartache of infidelity. My husband was someone I never thought would ever be capable of such a betrayal. This woman was someone he witnessed to at the gym and than claimed she was a friend. She actually came to church and sat with our family in church. I had a strong intuition that their relationship was becoming much more than friendship I addressed it with him and he of course denied it. He would not give up her “friendship”. I sought help from our church. There are so many more details to what happened and what I went through. My husband ultimately decided he needed to leave and within a week he was with this woman. Believe me when I tell you that they were people that actually said I should have made him give up the friendship. I did ask him to stop the friendship with her but he refused. The Lord held me and carried me through this painful experience. And the thing that is most amazing is that the Lord helped me to forgive even in the midst of all of this because of his great love for me. If I did not forgive I would not be able to go forward with my life. I did not want to remain a victim of someone else’s infidelity for the rest of my life. Please understand that his wife is not the one that should be criticized or hurt even more especially from her own brothers and sisters in Christ. They should be holding her up and supporting her through all of this. I cannot imagine her grief losing her husband and finding all of this out after his death. A secret life. And if she had any inkling that there might’ve been something going on can you imagine that pain. I have been there I know what it does to you it eats away at you even though the person that is involved in the infidelity continues to make you feel like you are just not trusting them. I pray that those around her and those brothers and sisters she has known for years would help her and in time of need him to forgive to move on. The one thing is to remember God always uses our pain for his glory that we can help others that go through the same experience.
Your former Husband is not a man he's a boy that doesn't know Christ. I'm so sorry you went through this Patricia 😞. 'If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.' (1 John 1:6
So much strength in your words. You truly overcame the hurt, now you are brilliant. Now that you're free you can give so much! If we stood the trial we earn the crown.
Right... most so called Christians have not only no true faith but they have no heart. They don't have any heart toward anyone or anything that does not benefit themselves. This my friend, is Christianity in the 21st century...has nothing to do with Christ.
Ravi is in heaven, he gave his life to his ministry.I admire Margie for her statement. I follow him for years. He loved Jesus. Let's not be so eager to judge him.I pray for his wife and family .We are not here to Judge, grace and mercy to us all.
Adam, thanks for producing this spiritual and heartfelt segment. I came back to faith in Christ almost 2 years ago, heavily influenced by many of Ravi's videos online and a couple of his books. He had just died when I came around and then a few months later all of these "revelations" come out about him. Yes, I was disappointed that it seemed evident that Ravi had some sin issues, but I have been totally appalled at the venomous, judgmental critiques, most of whom claim to be Christians, that kick this dead man when he is gone. I'm not trying to defend any wrong actions of Ravi, but there are certainly questions of why so many of these people and women came out against him AFTER he died. IF all of these accusations are true, one also needs to ask if there was not complicity in the sin by many of his accusers. Finally, my main issue is with purported Christian's reactions to this in the public forum of RUclips and the internet. The judgers and accusers of this dead man will stand at the same throne of judgment Ravi will. I think it will be very interesting to hear what God says to each and every party. Even if Ravi was guilty of all accusations, it does not change who God is or did through Ravi. Judging by the fruits of his ministry just in my own life, I will not sit among the accusers and judges quietly. I will not let secularists or Christian judges convince me that his books and works are "trash" to be obliterated. If that is the case, I can give you a long list of "famous Christians" who should then be treated equally. Based on the Ravi Ministries atrocious treatment of Margie, I will no longer be looking to them as sources of trusted input as they obviously have just been fighting to survive by trashing their founder. God's grace is sufficient, even for Ravi. Compare his sins with those of many of "God's favorites" in the old testament and then come back and convince me that somehow Ravi was NOT chosen by God or question his salvation. You are in error to judge...and Christians are never to judge their brother, especially in front of the unGodly and heathens that most of the world is made up by. Shame on many of these Christian "judges"...and I pray that repentance of the judges will eventually win out over the venom and negative spirits they have conjured up or gone along with. The church overall has a lot of blood on its hands in handling these kinds of circumstances and sinners. I still say the worst thing about Christianity as a religion is how it kicks their soldiers when they are down or dead...or takes on the role of judgment that God will not share with any other but Himself! Continued prayers for Margie and her family...
@@AttySig But God didn't allow David's sin to be hidden and David was still punished and his punishment affected many in his life beginning with the innocent infant son. Why should Ravi deserve the same legacy as King David is it because like David he admitted what he did? Oh wait a minute Ravi didn't.
@@AttySig First I never said I knew whether or not Ravi repented before he died and I can only hope so. But if I were you I wound not compare him to King David. When David was confronted with his sin by the prophet Nathan he "acknowledged it" he didn't go to his grave lying. It was not covered up, it was not hidden, it is in the Bible for everyone to read and his repentance is in Psalm 51 for everyone to see.
Thank you Edward. My sentiments exactly. Do these so called Christians write David out of their bible? and what about Solomon, Sampson, and others who failed during their lives? What about me? I wouldn't be here if it was not for the grace and salvation of Jesus.
I have questioned the motives of people on You Tube talking about this since day one. I made sure I only listened to very few, trustworthy Christians who don't want to gossip about or sensationalize anything on their channels. I read the RZIM letters and reports for myself because I had been on their email list prior to these discussed situations. I prayed for the wife and family. The situation seems complicated and tragic for many. I don't know anyone personally at any level, so I can only pray and believe the Lord will come into the situations, hearts and lives of all involved and bring healing, peace and good out of it. I just happened to see this video that came up in my feed. Keep praying and keep looking into our own hearts in our own lives. Follow Jesus.
Amen. The shock is wearing off now. Reality is setting in. Margie & the whole family needs prayer, always. We all have things we would be ashamed of if our dirty laundry was hung out for the world to see. Anyone who says they don’t, is a LIAR. And we know how God feels about that.
We've no right to vilify Ravi. What Ravi accomplished for Jesus n the millions of lives he touched across the world. We still are scratching the surface. He that is without sin let him cast the first stone. Let us bear the families margee n the children in our prayer. I'll always look unto Ravi as a mentor, teacher, preacher, edifier. I'm sure Ravi is safe in the arms of Jesus. Just like the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him today ull be with me in paradise. God bless.
I never believed allegations against Ravi Zacharias for the reason that the RZIM board violated the Bible by reaching out to unbelievers to conduct the investigation - clear violation of 1 Corinthians 6. Maybe they need to focus less on apologetics and more on the pure Word of God. They chose to believe a professional (in my view) gold digger - just listen to her giving interviews - she is a clever phycologist and had a strategy to take down Ravi. I don't understand why the board decided to believe a married woman who takes naked selfies and sends them to strangers. It's shameful that the RZIM board members, colleagues and friends got blindsided and CANCELed Ravi.
It is so sad that the " christians " are treating such a beautiful woman this way. Her husband is the sinner, not her. When my husband cheated on me my friends and family were there for me, as we should all be. God give her the strength and courage to over come this storm.
@@mandersdaro8136 And he may very well have been. Oddly noone attacked or accused him publically til he was no longer around to defend the accusations. Satan loves to destroy the legacy y ministry of God's servants.
@@SoldierDrew not true at all. There are a few victims who were public about their interaction with him before he died. One was sued by Ravi. Others waited till he could not do anything to them. I see no problem with a victim waiting until it’s safe to come forward.
@@kurtanderson5023 What is the outcome of the legal action took against his accusers? Was it dismissed, settled out of court or the defendant was found guilty? It is after judgment that it can be said whether or not Ravi was innocent.
@@edemekwo2974 google the case of Ravi and Lori Anne Thompson. Briefly he sued her in Federal Court making it more difficult for her to respond because she is a Canadian citizen. It was settled out of court and NDA’s were signed by both sides. Within 2 months Ravi broke the NDA. Thompson has not been released from the NDA. It is widely believed that Margie holds the NDA of Thompson preventing Thompson from publicly releasing details. This was not a criminal case.
Thank you for this, Adam. We should ask ourselves, what would Jesus do? I hope we are doing what He would do, mourn with those who mourn. Why do Christians shoot their wounded? Margie was truthful, she could not find anything suspicious. She is a good, faithful wife, God bless her. 😢
Margie faith in GOD is as truthful as RAVI's faith in GOD. Ravi taught us wisdom from GOD. He did not profess but spoke technically about Jesus and his belief in GOD. We will love him always, Margie and family too. MALAYSIA
Johan, South Africa. Margie my heart bleeds for you and the family. I praise Gods name and thank Him for putting me and my wife in touch with Ravi thru RUclips. We will always remember his wisdom in showing us the true road of Christ. God bless you and your family.
They waited until after he died, then they came out to take everything he had. They waited until he couldn't defend himself. He bought that massage place, after he got hurt in a bad personal area on his body. He wasn't trying to hide it, he talked about it when he traveled, because it helped him. He was doing a good thing, because he was also helping other people, with employment. It was to help people, get relief from their injury, and pain, without feeling embarrassed. When he got sick with cancer and needed to stop the money flow, they were only concerned about the business. They were thinking about themselves, and got attorneys that were not Christian. They saw how much he was worth, and they started planning. His injury was in a personal area, and they knew how to get to that area. They were supposed to be like nurses/ professionals. He wasn't hiding anything, and his family should have sued them, for slander and defamation against Ravi. After he died, their lawyer had a RUclips livestream asking if anyone else knew anything. I started asking them questions, and they had no answers. Dead men can't defend themselves. They got away with their crimes here on earth, but not when they go into the afterlife. There is no proof, only a set up. Ravi knew God, and would have been afraid to die without repenting. He would have told her about it, no matter how much it hurt her. Ravi feared our awesome God, and spent his life trying to bring others to the truth. He would have just stayed home, with his family, and done some other work for God. The devil is a liar, he wants to destroy, and that is what he tried to do to Ravi and the family he had to leave behind. This entire lawsuit was to make his family feel like they never knew Ravi. I pray that they see that this was planned, and God will have the last word. Ravi told them he had to close that business because it wasn't making any money, it was losing money. He was talking about it in public, so it was no secret, or ugly, like they made it out to be. I am so sad for his family, and pray they don't believe the lies. They treated his family like trash, and they will all regret everything they allowed, for money. The love of money, and attorneys who don't know God, are the devil's combination to destroy good people who love Jesus.
If every single one of us had to have our hidden "sins" put on a "screen"... What would others see and how would you like or need them to respond or comment. Stop and think before passing jusgement on Ravi. We all have things in our lives we hope will never be exposed to the public, even if we have repented of them. Ravi loved his wife and family. I will continue to be thankful for how God used him.
Your comments are so true , hands up the Christian who has not sinned!!! .but has been forgiven upon confession by the blood of Jesus,hallelujah ! , Why do we ‘grade’ sins , a lie is a sin , to steal is a sin ALL sin is an abomination to GOD that’s why it was necessary for Jesus to die . Ravi was gifted by God and he used this gift for God ,so (Christians) let him who has no sin cast the first stone GOD is the ONLY JUDGE , ! GOD bless you and comfort you Margie and your family Love you all - caveman
You right.. I was not one of his victims, however, I was a victim of many others. Through that, God has used my story for His Glory and I forgave all my perpetrators and prayed for them and their salvation. I don't condone what Ravi did at all. Pray for his family who have to pick up the brunt of his actions.
When I first saw online that there was some kind of scam about Ravi I wouldn't look at it or listen to it. I just kept saying, "Whatever it is I don't believe it." My second thought was, "His poor family! His poor wife!" I pray for them daily. What's being done to them is horrendous!
@@LillieLong The "family did nothing wrong". Is a gross understatement. RZIM is filled with nepotism and close buddies. One clear example is Ravi would spend 6-8 months alone in city of Bangkok to write a "Christian book" . Did anyone in his family ask any questions? Ravi was a cash cow that offered an opulent lifestyle to those around him.
God plz be with Margie I dont stand with ravi tho and know what he did is indefensible. As a sexual abuse survivor and my abuser was a missionary i know what he was like i lived thru atrocities too. These men are all the same and have no shame. Its so sad that his family is paying for what he did. I hope they can rally and stop trying to defend him.
Remember that it's not about you - it's about Ravi's family. I'm sorry for the abuse that you suffered, but it's time that we show some compassion to this family. They've been through enough.
@@gracehall776 their going thru trials does not have anything to do with what ravi did and that was rape women. Whats that have to do with what his wife is going thru. She needs support so she can see that defending him is un necessary. What ravi did is not defendable.
Thank you brother Adam. God Bless you! We need to pray for Margie and her family. May God give them the strength to stay strong during these tough times.
As many other commenters have said, when this happened and unfolded my heart immediately went to Margie. On the other hand, our sin (financial, social, emotional, sexual, etc.) effects our life beyond ourselves. In addition to be gracious It SHOULD also be commentary on how your sin has far greater consequences as it ripples through other people’s lives.
How but all the woman that were abused and shot down by Christians , they didn’t believe them. But believed ministry . God is cleaning up and let justice come to victims
That is what I thought too. I felt really bad for her. I can’t imagine what she is going through and I don’t blame her for feeling the way she does, whether people call it denial or not. A woman of God has been broken into pieces, her heart is shattered. She thought her husband was for her but it turned out she didn’t know him as well as she thought she knew him. He lived a double life. She became a victim of his actions. I still remember the way Ravi talked about his wife whenever he gave speeches...I thought it was so beautiful and I said that is some Godly marriage and that is what all of us Christians should strive to have but nothing is what it seemed like. How can she think that a man who she thought loved her wholeheartedly for this many years would do such a vile action to her. I understand her feelings and I sympathize with her, no need to call her out. People need to show grace of what she is going through and like you said she is morning two deaths. The magnitude of feeling she is going through is far beyond what others are saying as they are watching it from the sideline and not actually going through it. It is easy to call out whenever you are on the sideline seat but it isn’t so easy when you are in. It. People should put their shoes in her place and think about what they would feel if that was them. My only prayer is that may God give her abundant comfort and strength to move through this unimaginable pain.
After being married to my wonderful God-given husband of 52 years, and being a widow for the last 13 years, I can understand the heartbreak of Margie with all those memories to look back upon and the loneliness she must be feeling. I had so much respect for Ravi and loved his teachings and his wisdom and the books he wrote. None of us are perfect, who is justified to throw the first stone? I praise the Lord for His forgiveness and mercy and the restoration He brings to the hurting hearts. My sincere love and prayers are for you Margie. May you experience the ongoing love, the strength, and peace that only God can give. 🎚🙏
in short, the ministry he started dumped his family? Lesson: Don't put trust in people. Provide for your family even after you're gone. Only heaven will bring permanent comfort and treat you well.
The visual aide lesson in all of this should be, be sure your sin find you out. Do not sin! Sin has consequences on your loved ones. The ministry didn't dump Margie. Ravi violated the standards of the ministry that he started. I agree in that Margie trusted her husband Ravi & he let her down. He didn't provide for her. Ravi committed the sin against the victim's, his wife & his family & ministry. Big object lesson if you ask me.
THIS VIDEO IS EXACTLY HOW BELIEVERS SHOULD TREAT EACH OTHER!! While I am NOT condoning anything that has been found out about Ravi, who would want their life lay open before the world? Does anyone of us measure up? Does ANYONE want their whole private world made public for all to comment on? Thank you for reminding Believers that THIS^^^ is Christ's heart toward us. MAY IT BE OURS TOWARDS EACH OTHER!
This is awful for Margie. I completely understand why she's so traumatised. But very sadly, both things can be true. It's possible for Ravi to have loved her, love his family and reveal a different side himself to others. It's possible that he was skilled at concealing his predatory conduct from his loved ones. That's what manipulators do. This is a terrible situation. Prayers for all affected 🙏
During my most challenging years, Ravi’s messages gave me hope and helped me cope. When I heard of his death I was so sad and cried, not long after that I started seeing messages on RUclips about scandals and for my heart’s sake I just refused to watch or listen to any of them. The truth is, one day we will all stand before the Lord Jesus and hear what He has to say about us. No one, not one of us is righteous, it is only those that come under the righteousness of Christ that will stand. We all sin, we all hurt people in different ways and to various degrees. Some people’s sins are exposed for the whole world to see but they are forgiven by God because they asked earnestly for mercy and repented. You just never know the whole story.
My observation is;churches and Christian people often talk about love and forgiveness, but when push comes to shove, they don't usually practice it.i say that as a practicing Christian for 50yrs.🇳🇿
@@donde2k when a verse like this is continually taken out of context then we should point it out. That’s how we grow closer to Christ - by knowing the truth of his Word. It’s not “casting stones” to point this out.
@@kurtanderson5023 We Christians also need to remember that......God....The Alpha and Omega, the Great "I Am".....IS the judge!!!!! We have no right to be Judgemental knowing that Christ suffered, forgave and died for our Salvation. I would like to know how many were brought to Christ by this man? Only God knows.
Adam, thank you so much for bringing a genuinely compassionate, human face and voice to the situation for Margie. ❤️ It is absolutely impossible to begin to understand what this is really like for her, but I have thought many times of her and their children, and how deeply their hearts will be hurting. 💕 This multiple layered grief process must be like sitting under a gigantic boulder for them. I have close personal friends who have mentored me from a position of Christian leadership for many years. It recently emerged that the husband has sexually abused young boys over a number of years 😪 He is now convicted - he pled guilty to a reduced charge from the original - and is awaiting sentencing. It has rocked and shocked our circles. ❤️ We must continue to pray for the families, and many of us are praying for this guy to allow Jesus to heal his heart as well.
She definitely needs prayer 🙏🏽 and support during this season of her life. I am disappointed that RZIM found the need for her to vacate her home after promising she could remain there as long as she wanted.
I am very sad and disappointed too that RZIM asked her to vacate the house within 90 days. That is cruel and inhumane. Being in the ministry myself for 23 years and going through a struggle from the organization I can feel the pain Margie. Just hold on! God will never leave you nor forsake you and family 🙏🏻🙏🏻 We are continuously praying for you and children.
Her daughter is the CEO of RZIM. I don’t understand this family but pray for them. It was disappointing in her email that she mentioned John MacArthur. I hope they truly are believers.
The entire ministry is being sued by victims. Their home is attached to the ministry. So it seems natural that she would not be able to stay under those circumstances. She will probably do better living w/family, anyway. More support around her. She needs all the prayer she can get.
I don't believe Mrs Z has been doing anything wrong. I forgive him because I have to, I feel for Mrs Z if I understand she didn't know he was doing this. God bless her and his victims. Praise God. Hallelujah to the Lamb. Glory to God.
I will pray for Margie that the Lord will protect her. I believe since Ravi is not with her anymore she has come under attack from the enemy as she is a daughter of the living God. As it is written “whoever is without sin cast the first stone “. Has no one ever read that “ you will be judged as you judge others” ? Lord Bless Margie abundantly I pray, Amen
Ravi was a great apologist preacher/teacher who defended the truth of the gospel. Let us not be hasty in judging anybody, leave apart the man who devoted his life for the Kingdom of our beloved Saviour Lord Jesus Christ. We are not here on this planet earth to defend the sins of somebody or to judge somebody. That is the work of the Holy Spirit. Be careful about your own self that you are not standing on the sinking sand and some time in future you also get overcome by the carnal desires. Let us put on the humility of our Savior Lord Jesus Christ and strive always day and night for the salvation of millions of perishing souls. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." (Matt 7 : 1 to 5). I appeal to all my readers to refrain from commenting on somebody's dark side and rather let us firmly deny ourselves, life up our own cross and walk whole-heartedly in the foot-steps of our beloved Saviour Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you all. JESUS IS COMING SOON. MARANATHA. Hallelujah. Amen.
Watch the ENTIRE RAVI ZACHARIAS SERIES here: Ravi Zacharias Allegations
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Margee and Ravis children must be in the miniscule straits of masterful emotion at their most grim time of anguish. My unusual name being mispronounced by some others is inflammatory. One solicitor calling to buy my home called me Wailly, a bad experience I had in the sixth grade, and I scolded him and warned him not to call back. I have such pristine hate for my name being said wrong, especially taunts. I pray Margee and her surviving family will experience God's grace in greatness far surpassing their grief.
Update from Nathan
I can tell you that so far I have not seen any questionable/concerning photos in both of the phones I have searched. I also have not found any questionable/concerning correspondence or data. This includes the device they supposedly found the most information.
This lady lost the love of her life, too, and hopefully not, some of her ability to trust...May God continue to console her heart, mind, emotions- her entire soul, in Jesus name. Amen.🙏🌹🤲
@@wileyparker2429
I SO Understand, Sweetheart. *My First Name Is, "Effie." Though I *Have Come To BE PROUD Of My Name, I Was Teased In Elementary School *By The Boys. OH! I Was ALSO Born, A "Parker."
I SO Miss The Zacharias Couple! Whether They Were Apart Doing Different Things, THE LORD Used Each One, *MIGHTILY. INCLUDING *The Wife! Ladies ALWAYS Need To Know THEY ARE IMPORTANT, ALSO!
:-( I MISS You, *My Margie! Agape.
I bueve
This is a reminder that she spent a lifetime with that man and she loved him. You are right she deserves to be treated with kindness and dignity.
Yes, she deserves to be left alone. She clearly loved him and was devoted to him. On the other hand, he didn't love her enough to be faithful to her. She stayed home and kept those home fires burning. He was scampering about the world, rendezvousing with very attactive young women. Instead of taking his wife on trips to exotic places, he took along young, nubile massage therapists. The saddest thing is that he did not admit it it and apologize to her before he died. Of course, he might have; but then she would be lying about not being aware of what he had done. So, I don't think that he did do that.
Ravis balls are in hell. The rest of him is in heaven
People that don't get her pain and the pain of her family... Have Never Loved.
And she is not responsible to his actions. So why is everyone turning on her? She didn't do anything wrong!
@@bramblecino
Um, I don't think it works that way. Unless everyone in heaven has no balls. Lol.
There are a few things that are still true: 1. Ravi was a great apologist and helped many around the world grow strong in the faith through his cogent elocution. His arguments, videos, and publications are still valuable for insight and learning. 2. Ravi serves as a warning to all Christian leaders that we can easily fall into illicit relationships and allow our physical desires to rule our lives. This is nothing new (David & Samson for example), but the wages of this sin are still deadly. 3. Teachers are held to a higher standard and will be judged more harshly on judgement day (James 3:1). I pray that Ravi repented before he died. 4. The victims he left behind are in need of prayers and help. 5. Ravi’s family is in need of prayer. Finally, we should pull together and learn from this and use it to strengthen our brotherly bonds instead of causing divisions.
It’s tough to see someone you admire make a huge mistake, especially since it apparently wasn’t a one time event. Ravi will have to answer for that, but it’s out of our hands. I still admire King David even though he murdered someone for his wife. I still love Ravi even though he made a mess in his personal life. I’m even more scared that I will do something as foolish as we are all capable of it. The enemy wants us to focus on failure and would love nothing more than to continue this mess by causing others to fall. Hang tight my fellow travelers. We’re on the same side.
I can't help but wonder if he didn't have a tumor in his brain that caused such behavior. It happens. Not excusing it; looking for an explanation.
Amen…
God bless you sir 🙌🙌🙌
I like that..thank you for me I'm human and humans FAIL ALOT
Amen, my brother. Well said. As our Lord said - "let he that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone (at her)" John 8:7
My heart aches for Margie and her children. May they find peace and shelter in Jesus.
I dont approve
Of evicting margie from their home ...
May the love of God covers Margie and her whole family with powerful healing grace and restoration, just like He has done with all of us.
I am appalled by the way Christians attack each other. Aren’t we supposed to show compassion and unconditional love for each other?
Thank you so much for saying that. I was going to use the same word "appalling". Nothing deserves this much vitriol and cruelty. The unkindness of people is beyond measure. No matter what his faults, Ravi taught us much of truth.
@@Dezertroze43 Amen sister.
@@Rosie-ud7ul if we point out the truth of Ravi’s abuse and deceit is that really “attacking?” Or are we seeking to warn others about religious leaders who act the same way? Are we communicating compassion to all his victims some who have not received support? Let’s not assume we are “attacking. “
@@kurtanderson5023 Sure brother. But the compassion seem to be one sided. Doesn’t his wife need compassion too.
Recently I am loosing interest in watching anything related to Christian content because it’s like everyone is bickering at each other, it is as if online Christians make it their life’s purpose to come on RUclips or other platforms and create content to tear other Christians down all in the name of expose because “the word said to expose”🙄😒. I’m like that’s not the only scripture in the Bible.
Colossians 3:12-17
New English Translation
Exhortation to Unity and Love
12 Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with a heart of mercy,[a] kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience, 13 bearing with one another and forgiving[b] one another, if someone happens to have[c] a complaint against anyone else. Just as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also forgive others.[d] 14 And to all these[e] virtues[f] add[g] love, which is the perfect bond.[h] 15 Let the peace of Christ be in control in your heart (for you were in fact called as one body[i] to this peace), and be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ[j] dwell in you richly, teaching and exhorting one another with all wisdom, singing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, all with grace[k] in your hearts to God. 17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.
In conclusion learn to called out your brother in love and not in pride. Merci!
Said this from Day 1.
Allow this lady to grieve. Support her and pray for her
@J Joseph she knows this like everyone else. Stay ON TOPIC. Read your bible and learn how Jesus treated hurting people and what he said about widows and orphans. Circle back with a comment more rooted in love next time
J Joseph-God exposes our sin to us a little at a time. It would literally kill us to really know how much we’ve offended Him-in a short period of time. This was no small thing...and she was sinned against, as well as Holy God offended. It will take years for her to process all of this. You can’t wallop her with all that transpired and expect her to easily receive, believe, accept and process it all. Have mercy on her.
@@lisaware9697 JJ is obviously a gavel slammer w/his own issues of attacking victims of heinous crimes.
He needs to seek Jesus for help himself. Always the flame throwers who never see their own shortcomings & destruction.
Amen therese.
@J Joseph your a wife cheat...you never looked at a woman and had a lustful thought...man this ain't worth destroying the ministry over. 30 years ago this wasn't even an issue, people are money hungry. Let me see someone file that isn't holding their hand out ...Even Smith Wigglesworth had a accusations made against him. Ravi fell short...he can get in line behind me.
Here is my HUGE problem with RZIM. Why would they dare evict a widow when the scripture CLEARLY tells us that God looks after orphans and widows?
because their motive behind the whole Ravi thing is skewed & twisted. Her wife was her last defender & that's what she got. They didn't like her stand..
Politics?
Exactly!! And God has let this truth come out. Remember that. Pray for her, lord I can't imagine.
The way I see it, it is to protect her. So no one could condemn her or mock her for benefitting from the organization that was condemned because it was lead by a person who has committed that crime.
@@w1lm0r4 I'm sorry Carol...but...what? You really believe they were looking at her best interests of not being "mocked" as more important than her having a place to live? Please tell me you don't really believe that.
Listening to Ravi made such a huge impact on making my faith in the LORD as solid as it is. I can't judge his faults, mine may have been much worse.
The Bible says we are to judge within the church as long as we are not in the same sin. He’s a predator.
Of course you can judge his faults just as he or other Christians can and should judge yours. We're to correct and rebuke each other in love. It's unloving not to point it out. It's unloving to leave someone in their sin, in their alcoholism, in their pornography. In the same breath, we ought to be confessing our sins to those in Christ we trust. It's exactly what Jesus did... He didn't leave the woman caught in adultery to her adultery, he loved her enough to tell her he knew about it AND he invited her to turn in a different direction and follow him.
Secondly, we can also hold in tension the fact that he also blessed you. It's ok to hold on to both of those truths. The Bible is full of tensions where two things are true. It's true that we have freedom to choose and at the same time God knows everything that we'll do.
@AllAboard Gamer
Cast the first stone Jesus says.. Our judge, judges our forgiveness..
He must repent and face justice.Forgiveness doesn't involve ever being near the abuser again,but let go of it.Jesus may have used him and maybe he was for real until he gave into temptation?
WAS HE AN ABUSER ALL ALONG?
Was he attacked by lust Spirit demons?
Or just a PIG? Maybe he was BOTH,and gave into his FLESH?
Did he repent,or is he in purgatory w Epstein?
@@jacquelineking4008
Ever ?
True forgiveness and love .. can manifest mircles!!
It's very easy to attack someone when they are not here to defend themselves. I pray she & her family find peace.
And not a hint of this before he died? I honestly cannot buy into this so called scandal. Satan works to deceive and I fear all his teachings are now ruined.
Totally agree Calvin.
@@paulettebevilacqua5473 Yes exactly. I have so many questions and in this so-called scandal, there are so many logical fallacies. 1. Why everyone said after he passed away 2. How can someone so confidently stand against everyone if they have been continuously doing those things 3. How these apologists who find logic everywhere, never ever saw anything suspicious living with Ravi sir for these many years 4. What was Ravi sir's necessary to travel around everywhere for the gospel, standing, and sitting for so many hours even if he had been taking injections for long ago? I am from India, and My church's pastor met Ravi sir 20 years ago, even at that time he came after taking an injection for his back pain. 5. How would he do such things against Jesus when he built international ministry to defend Jesus!!
Anyways, i don't care what the world says, I know he is with Jesus and I know He attacked Devil so much and Devil couldn't hurt him while he lived that's why he attacked now.
@@Juzzzt_Urvi check out defendingravi.com. Ravi cannot defend himself, we need to see what his family members have to say.
He wouldn't have had a defense for sexual abuse of countless women.
Adam, thank you for your kindness towards Margie. After the news broke, I wondered how this dear woman was coping with a situation that was so multilayered, it hurt my heart to even try to imagine her pain and suffering. Her entire life just got pulled out from under her. Pray for Margie. And yes, love one another.
Yeah that's so bad.
Ravi had no concern what so ever for his dear wife. He only was concerned for himself. Would you defend the average person like you are defending Ravi? If not then you are a respector of person's.
She needs the churches help, love and understanding. A large church ministry should reach out to her with financial support and help.
Margie and the family need our prayers all the more. Thank you for showing such empathy.
Thank you for your kindness in this difficult situation. My heart breaks for Margie and her family, and I am very grateful for the teachings that Ravi gave us. His messages touched so many people, and helped me so much. Thank you for this message, Adam. I hope Margie has some comfort in knowing there are many of us who are praying for her and her family, and hold her in high honor.
Ravi Zacharias has helped to bring me closer to the knowledge of Jesus and his saving grace. I'm not interested in the life of the mesager I am more interested in the message .Men should leave judgement the Almighty God .Margie my prayers are with you and your family. May God give you and your family the strength you so need in these testing times.
Ravi's preaching / messages are completely meaningless tainted by the man arrogant hypocrisy.
@@mrbas5150 how so? ravi is no different than david, peter, or you - we all sin
@@PeaceToAll-sl1db David committed grevious sin and he lost his exaultation. Peters sin was not as serious. We all sin but should repent. Ravi, lying from the start and being a constant predator didn't repent, did he?
The Christian church is the worst..so bad in judging believers
May God give Margie peace and hold her in the palm of His Hand and hide her from her enemies.
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@@tonniyesaya4512 you are going
Thanks
GOD the Father well protect her ......1peter 2:23 who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously;
@@franktrettevik859 You are right..and God protect the widows. All Glory to God.
I have been a Christian for over 30 years and have seen a lot of scandals in churches. I am ashamed at the behavior of believers who are so unforgiving and uncharitable with the families. Though it is disappointing to learn about Ravi, he has been so influential in my life especially after I lost my husband 3 years ago. People need to remember Ravi was not God, and if you know the Bible, God chooses very flawed people to do his work. We should all be praying for this family, and remember Ravi’s good work.
You are so right God Bless you!!
I teach at a Christian high school and I teach World Religions and we explore WORLDVIEWS that exist today and we also explore BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY WORLDVIEWS and we compare and contrast this Godly view with current Atheistic Worldviews. One of our DVDs I use talks about Why God allows EVIL and SUFFERING. In this DVD there is a youth pastor that talks about a Pastor that had a drug problem in the past. The Pastor had a RELAPSE and the Church voted to kick out both the former Pastor AND HIS INNOCENT WIFE AND CHILDREN!! This is so wrong and makes me cry every time I hear it!! Let he who is without Sin cast the first stone!!
You might say that Ravi had good works but I say what good works? I've watched videos of him speaking at Hinduism places and mormon tabernacles and not once does he warn them of not accepting Christ as their savior. All of it tried to focus on the similarities they have. Jesus says, " I am the truth the way the life no man goes to the Father except through Me. " truth is Ravi was a business man who lived in sin who used God's money to indulge in sexual sin. He'll be known as a hypocrite who the church should see as a bad example and try not to do same thing. He's forever sorry for playing everyone, including God. May God have mercy
God uses flawed people whose hearts are changed by Him & who respond in seeking Him to teach them, to be His representatives Jn. 15v7, e.g St. Paul the ex- murderer Saul of Tarsus. Michael Franzese, ex- mafia boss, Doreen Irvine ex- prostitute & ex- witch.
@@hugoanson2135 yes, paul was an murderer but ended well Ravi did just the opposite, he started out great then ended bad that's the difference. There's no excuse for what Ravi did, he literally used God's word and values to lure innocent people in and abused them. May God have mercy
@@aservant2287you are right no excuse at all for his actions . Neither was King David( murder, adulter) and yet the word said he was just a man after Gods heart. I believe Ravi was still searching for Gods heart also.
I didn't forget to feel because no one has to instruct me with that. I don't know the Zacharias family. But, when I heard this horribly sad news about his passing and sorrowful legacy- his wife was the first I prayed for. My heart goes out to her for so many reasons.
Thank you Adam for having compassion for the shoes his wife is having to walk in. Father God help her and see her through. Thanks Adam for covering this woman- I am sure your mom, wife, sister if you have any would be proud of you. :)
Amen.
Thank you for enlightening people to realize the deep hurt this woman is going through. I cannot imagine her pain. She needs all the kindness we can give her. God bless Margie.
Thank you Elise!
My thoughts and prayers are with the victims...
Felt the same way what a beautiful Godly woman who was shattered to pieces because of his vile actions.
Adam, you have spoken on behalf of so many, thank you. I have found the lack of love and compassion towards the grieving Zacharias family really sad and disappointing
Thank you, Maureen! Glad it helped!
i agree maureen
The Zacharias family lied, deceived and manipulated the situation with Ravi for decades - they knew about the allegations and staff were threatened - get your facts straight! Margie is living in denial - no cares about your 'heart' and you are simply defending a name and a lack of respect is what has been displayed to the victims of Ravi's depravity - and you have become the example in this - you're not! Margie knew her husband was living in other countries for months at a time - what did she think he was doing?!You're not seeking to honor anyone but yourself and this isn't about Margie this is about the countless thousands of woman that were abused by Ravi
@@gracelatour3441 I’m sure everyone would appreciate the ‘links’, to all your ‘investigative facts’.
You spew plenty of anger here w/o any proof to back any of it up.
I only read his partner in the spas suspected &/or was aware of his abhorrent behavior. And was angry at himself for not taking a stronger stand against him about it. But he was treading lightly on the ‘image’ & the repercussions for the ministry. This was months ago, so maybe there’s more I’ve missed, being I haven’t made it my mission to keep up 24/7.
If you have more than that, as you spew, than please, _do tell_ & point to where we can all ‘see for ourselves.’
Or just end your raging about it & ask Jesus to help you w/your obvious problem.
@@gracelatour3441 Wow, Grace!! Really??? "Let him without sin cast the first stone ..."
My heart went out to Margie, the children and grandchildren the day this news broke. I was burdened especially for Margie and prayed and prayed for her broken heart, and will still pray! 💔🙏❤
How are you doing 😊😊
I have felt the same, realizing how much they loved and supported each other. She was on my mind; I pray for you Margie! Thank you for the message you sent to family and supporters.
My heart went out also to the women exploited and spiritually abused by the man they looked up to as a Christian leader
God is good
Yes Margie we love you and miss Ravi. So indebted to you both
Thank you for this video. I was a student at Alliance Theological Seminary in the early 1980s, and Ravi was one of my professors. I also did some house sitting for him, and I met Margie and his family. Their children were quite young at the time. I liked Margie a lot; she's smart, witty and kind.
Ravi never entered through the door of the sheep of Christ. No other pastors also enter through the door, so all of them are fake; don't follow them, as you will share in their sins.
@@dr.k.t.varughese3151 wrong.
Ravi's death and discovery of his indiscretion is simply a reminder that he was a mere man, no greater or less than any one of us and as such, was just as vulnerable to earthly temptations as any one of us.
At least you understand, and you know that regardless of all that is said, Ravi is a humanbeing and was also in need of salvation, therefore all that is said and done, Ravi served the Lord and was used mightily to answer questions
those whom really fight the good fight or at least try gets tempted the most not defending nothing just saying
He was a demonic monster
@@1danieltube794 I’m so sorry you had to grow up
I will continue to believe in the messages Ravi shared throughout his ministry. May God bless his widow, and his legacy. Be strong Mrs. Z.
Ravi is in hell!
Amen.
@@jamestamz there is no way you can say that for sure
@@travelsouthafrica5048 surely, he is not in heaven
@@jamestamz what if he is ? what have you done that gives you the merit to be there ? are you without sin ?
have you spread the gospel as far and as wide as he has ?
are you the master of God ?
you humans are pitiful your limited perception only outdone by your even more limited range of thought
do you think you are here on earth because God thought of you as a prime and unblemished example of this species ? a type of Christ figure here to look down upon the rest of us ?
no , you are a POS just like the rest of us here , you deserve hell as surely as Ravi , as surely as I do
the only difference is that I know it and you don't , because if you did , you would be quiet , because a loudmouth on death-row should know better than to attract the attention of the guards
or do you think your virtue signalling here will distract God from your sins ?
Thankyou Adam this is so needed to be said Why must people be so cruel to fellow Christians Amen we should be now by our love
Not to mention everything we lose in the process from our past, present and future. Its a great lose!! You will never understand. So pray 🙏 😢
We are no judge of Any Christian Leadership...its God who judges. They all should shut up and live their lives. God Bless all those Haters, Gossipers.
It breaks my heart that Margie is being treated in this way. Thank you Adam, continue being a blessing.
Thank you, @R.DarleneDurfey! Glad it resonated and that you felt blessed by it.
There is one thing she could do that would change maybe not all but a lot: Release Lori Anne Thompson from the non disclosure agreement. As long as it looks like you are trying to keep facts from coming out, it is difficult to appreciate your perspective.
My heart goes out to Margie and the children and grandkids..I have kept you all in my prayers. I was an avid listener of Zacharias.I learnt so much truth from him and when I see his name come up I still listen to him.. Blessings and grace abound over you all. Lots of love in Jesus.
In my eyes, she's a victim too, but of a totally different kind.
She may even be a victim in ways similar to the others. She's just been groomed for so long she can't see it yet💔
I'm pretty sure Ravi is innocent of their allegations and this is just demons using their servants yo attack a solider in Christ. If so i wouldn't dare speak a word against Ravi. Aleast bring forward some hard evidence before slandering the man because he isn't alive to defend him self any more. If he is truly innocent then God will do it for him. Once all the snakes have shown what side they are on first ofcourse.
@@arkhamkillzone There's plenty of "hard evidence" that has proved Ravi to be guilty of what he's been accused of. There is nothing wrong with having a great respect for his ministry and how God used it to strengthen the faith of others, however, that doesn't mean we should ignore truth and hurt victims even further by labeling them liars for the sake of blind loyalty. Christians are meant to seek after, and value truth and if we think that Ravi is innocent, we must have hard evidence to back that notion up. Not just a hunch. I encourage you to do the research and revise your stance. grace and peace 🤍.
@@nompilomazibuko4615 there are alot of hurt victims with Michael Jackson and Justine Bieber as well. They are all allegations tho and Justin actually challenged the rape claims and the ones accusing never showed up lol. So in this case it wouldn't surprise I'm the slightest if some are trying to have Ravi fame rub off on them. I certainly hope not but once again I have not seen any hard evidence (neither did you) cause they didn't not release any. All I see is statements off anonymous people making claims against someone who is dead. Get over it! That's what I would tell the accusers. Should have said something 2 years ago.
@@arkhamkillzone s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rzimmedia.rzim.org/assets/downloads/Report-of-Investigation.pdf
I'm deeply saddened to hear a Christian say something as harsh as "get over it" to people expressing deep hurt or trauma, even if they were lying, this response is incredibly unloving. Our response should be as gracious as possible solely because of the sensitive nature of the accusations. The above is the link to the report done by an independent and credible source. It seems incredibly odd not to trust eye witness testimonies when all of the biblical and historical evidence (on literally every historical event that has ever been documented,) is based on eye witness accounts (including the life, death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ). I will no longer be responding because I don't think I have anything more to say.
grace and peace.
Thank you for your kind words. I am a widow and my daughter is a widow. People are cruel to us for no reason. I had a good husband and my daughter did.too. People have been like vultures to us. Widows are not reversed or respected by people like the Bible says to do. You would not believe what we have gone through.
So hard to hear that. I am sorry to hear that. I don't know your age but I find people in our country are rude to people as they grow older...even in the church...Dear Lord, help us love one another. Forgive us for sinning against each other.
Also, Gail, I am sorry for your loss and your daughter's loss.
😓 God Bless you both in Jesus Holy Merciful Loving Name 🛐
May God give you the comfort that comes from Him.
When men and women fail us, Jesus is always faithful.
I tried to imagine what it must feel like to be told the person you have loved with all your heart, and have known and trusted completely, is not whom you believed him to be. Rather than a saint, you are being told he was a snake. Would you embrace the evidence or look for flaws in the new narrative?
How do you deconstruct the memory of someone who has been a pillar of love and strength in your life? It's probably a lot easier to build a defensive wall around his shrine.
I'll continue to pray that God will give Margie the strength to get through this heartbreaking ordeal. We need to have compassion for others.
Thanks for demonstrating the kind of Christian compassion that we need to show.. .
Don't worry about what people have to say Margie.
How they react to a situation shows who they are.
My sympathies and prayers are with you.
From Sri Lanka. ❤️
Let ravi burn in hell after all you want those who disagree with you to burn . Unfortunately its all just imaginary just like your heaven.
@@ugaccount7385 No what's imaginary is evolution and deep down you know it. Repent and believe in Jesus.
I am a man who has lost not one but two wives to cancer. Both of them were godly women, both beautiful inward and out.
I think it would be very hard for me to accept it if someone was to come along and tell me that one of them wasn't what I thought she is!
And then to find out it was true that she was a hypocrite or whatever the evidence is pointing out!
I would have to literally go into second state of grief! I would have go into the process of acceptance again! Only way I could do that is God's Grace(2 Cor.12:7-11) ! Only through Christ Which strengthen s me(Phil.4:13)!
And then it would be someone you lived with and loved in a marriage bond for nearly fifty years! I think in Margie's it would be a nightmare that would pretty follow for the rest of her life!
So she deserves our prayers!
@@Pugilist928 whats real is ravi 's disgraceful acts , your just in denial , poisoned by religion to lose common sense.
My adult son was brought closer to coming to the Lord (which he finally did) because of Ravi’s brilliance. This hurts my heart so much because I’ve loved him so much and will always be grateful for him.
I know just how you feel.
I can understand how she feels after seeing my mother go through this. My father died 4 years ago. 30 plus years of marriage and she still lives in the same same house. That’s a hard reminder. And Paul instructed us we to take care of the widows. People won’t understand it until they go through it. Look how wicked we truly are.
What a powerful perspective, @Mr.Wood. I’m sorry for the loss of your father and I’m sure your mother knows exactly what it feels like. 30 years of marriage is a truly a beautiful thing and a testament to the love of God. Praying for your family!
We need to take care of WIDOWERS TOO!! My dad was one and the church ignored him. In fact, they told him that he should have given ME up for adoption...yet asks me 30 years later, "What is your relationship like with him?" Hypocrites!
They need to let go, it's sad , how insensitive people are. Lord help us to share Magie's sorrow. Pray for the family as well.
God bless you!! The ministry failed woefully to uphold scripture in the situation. Who knows if it is a propaganda by the ministry because of all the money involved. This is a multi-million dollars ministry that Ravi built before he passed. You know what they say about the love of money...Just saying. I wont trust a ministry that is quick to kick a widow out of the house where she lived with her husband that built a great ministry because of his failures while he was here. We are dealing with the widow now not the man! where is our compassion and the heart of Christ?
@@saxmanjpr5092 Wow. After my husband died, I asked somebody in my church for help. His response? "If you can't take care of your children, you should put them up for adoption." I'm not sure that any secular group would have told me that.
Finally, a non condescending voice. People act as though that they have reached practical Holiness this side of eternity. What skeletons would we find in the most outspoken critics closest.
Should read how many skeletons would we find in the critics closest.
Finally a voice of compassion.
Appreciate that, @EdwardWicks! If I’m being transparent, I definitely know that I can have a critical heart at times as well. Sometimes it’s hard not too! It simply goes to show our NEED for our Savior and the grace and the power of God in our lives. Thanks for the encouragement and I’m glad this helped!
holiness and sexual abuse are two absolute opposites.
If the allegations are true, as proven, then he was not saved. Don't act like Ravi was just "imperfect" he was in willful sin. The accusation was made while he was alive and he dismissed it with no apology.
The man was evil.
@@invertebrates1017 My, someone missed the whole point of this video didn't they.
This is heartbreaking! No matter what Ravi did you have a wife of 48 years that has lost a husband, regardless of what kind of person he was, what he did, she has lost the husband that SHE has known and loved, not what the public now knows and sees!
How can she be expected to turn on all of the love and memories that she has known for an idea and events that was brought forward after his death!?!? The memories and thoughts of him are already painful in his absence and now she is expected to replace all of that with this new revelation that her husband isn't here to answer for!?! This man, regardless of what he has done out of her sight, is the man she has done life with for a big chunk of her life, they made decisions together, they solved problems together and now she is alone! She also has her children to think of, publicly denouncing her children's father!?!? No mother would want to do that!!!! She is stuck with her truth and now the other truth brought forth by an investigation of people that aren't close to her and now the public. Of course she is going to stand beside the man she did life with, brought children in the world with, prayed with, knelt with, how can you expect her to do anything different!?! To change everything she has ever known after he is no longer here???? I just can't even imagine what she is going through!
For them to now take her house from her!?! The home with all their memories!? She is a victim in all of this, why is she being treated like she is guilty in anything other than being a devoted wife of 48 years and mother!?!?!
the husband that Margie 'knew' was a phony,a hypocrite, liar and deceiver - he abused his own wife!
@@gracelatour3441 we don't know what she "knew" and their are many women that are abused that are still loyal and love their spouse. Ravi was all those things, but Margie is a victim of the him as well! She shouldn't be held accountable and treated as if she did all those things!
The women aren’t innocent. Oh gosh w everyone freak out on me now. I have been in a similar situation and while the man/men weren’t innocent, I was a participant and accepted financial help and gain. These women are not innocent
Grace Latour, you need to go back and read and put into application Galatians 6:1. If you read James 2:10, we all can be aptly called those things you so readily labeled Ravi with.
With all my heart❤ I pray that Margie find rest in Jesus Christ alone. God bless her and her family.
As do I, Marylies! Thank you for sharing this.
Ravi is still my hero. My sympathy is with his family; what an embarrassing situation they are in.
Why are people so evil and heartless. The devil is taking full advantage in these whole situation
Let God almighty be our final judge.
@@michaelmunluo7673 ‘Hero’ is taking a fallen man a bit far.
*Jesus should be your only ‘hero’.*
@@sonneversets3530 i agree💕
That poor woman, I can’t imagine the roller coast of emotions Margie must be experiencing and feeling. Disbelieve, betrayal, loss, brokenness and much more.
Thank you Father God that you hold Margie in the palm of your hand, you do not condemn her or hold her responsible for the actions of her husband but rather you pour out mercy and grace with each new day.
Thank you. Well said. May we not allow our own disappointment lead us to treating Margie as anything other than a grieving widow and sister in Christ. She has suffered more than we can grasp or imagine. Let us also grieve with Margie and the family.
This was beautifully done. Thank you for doing this. I am a Christian as well and this is something that is most needed. I thank God for this. May God bless and keep you.
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Amazing man who are to judge. Don't take God's place
@@bhinasamdutt5274 By defending him you are judging him to. Only you are judging him not guilty.
Ravi woke up in me my faith I was losing after yrs of going to "dead" churches.
We all are sinners, we are all going to account for those sins.
God bless Margie n her children.
They can face the world standing up straight in faith through Christ.
God bless you all.
Margie is not the only one grieving the death of Ravis legacy, many of us are.
You are correct, but she is the only one who was joined in marriage to him. I hurt for her much more than I hurt for myself.
Nowhere close in the same way.
This is why you should follow Jesus, not ministers.
@@sobeliever1638 last time I checked this wasn't a contest. I'm just saying a lot of people were grieved by what happened.
I did at first, but when everything started trickling out and his daughter came forward along with the evidence starting back in 2017, left me with no tears to shed for him, not his family and certainly not the victims with whom I grieve for. Sorry, but have no years left for him at all. All his videos should be stripped off RUclips by the family….
Bless your heart Adam for presenting a challenging and delicate issue with a sense of sensitivity and finisse towards Ravi's widow. Praying that Margie may find peace and comfort through The Holy Spirit and from her closest loved ones and friends. This fallen world is cruel and that cruelty is not foreign from the so-called Body of Christ.
I am Catholic and I loved Ravi when he was still alive and i still do. I respect the man for what he had tried to stand for. I am grateful to him for the lessons i learned and I will not forget them nor would i forget Ravi. His deeds, he will answer to GOD but his words will remain in my heart. I do not feel anger, i only feel sorrow and my family and I will always pray for him. GOD bless his family, too.
LOL he was not christian apparently, it was an act, to sustain income, he lost faith 15 years ago, his family member and close aids said this. Anybody can act like Ravi. Anty christianity is dead really.
@@serendipityculture1679 Ahoy! We have a violent atheist and an anti-Christian in our midst!
@@serendipityculture1679 You're either very young or a simp.
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@@serendipityculture1679 It is easy to be mean spirited isn't it?
This is a beautiful message of Grace, Forgiveness and Mercy♥️♥️Thank you. Unfortunately social media has given so many a platform to judge everything and everyone. This is why our world is falling apart. Before I post anything about anyone I always ask God to be my hands and feet. Let what I say glorify you♥️
As a widow of nine years whose name is constantly mispronounced, I want to thank you for saying this. When we stand before God in judgement day we will stand alone for our actions. But while we are here we should be supporting each other in light of Romans 12: 9-10.
Finally, Love message to this situation! Thank You Jesus! I am so tired of public talking of many big well known preachers. Some of them sent Ravi to the hell already. Some of them provided "perfect" analyzes.
But who was mostly hurt? Ravi's dear wife and Jesus. Do we know last talk of Ravi to them? Really do we know all? The full true we will know one day, day when I or you will stand before God and God will not show me, you Ravi's life but mine or yours! Keep it on your mind! Do not send to the hell any person in your mind. Because one day you could be surprise. My, your life is still running. Do you stand strongly? If yes, keep your heart humbled, it is the only ground to run to the final victory.
I know what it is to fell down as a follower of Jesus Christ and wanna tell you, Jesus gives to us the chance to last possible moment to regret and to say our humbled sorry to Him and to siblings.
Love this, Peter. Thank you for your heart here. Amen brother and may God continue to bless and keep you!
My heart is with the family. I married a man I never dreamed led another life entirely ... never had a clue, would never have believed it if I were told. Margie is a precious victim who lost someone she loved and trusted. So very sad. God bless you, dear Margie.
Only victims of gross deception in a marriage understand the depth of hurt and pain. Especially from husbands that are believed to be godly christians. It is so great a blow she probably questioned her entire faith in God. Only Jesus can restore such damage.
My heart goes to Margie. Ravi stays in my heart. His preachings blessed me and no bad writing about him can change my admiration and respect for him. No one is perfect. Everyone sinned and no man is exempt.
I will never believe the lies written, said, about Ravi. We know there are those out there who will do anything & every thing 2 pull Christianity down & especially those of high profile like Ravi who are not shamed 2 be know as a follower of Jesus of Nazareth. Ravi was not only highly intelligent with that amazing ability to enable the every day Jo Blo like myself to understand complex issues he also had that ability 2 mix with commoners & kings. As he got older he became more handsome yet his good looks meant nothing to him. That made him more attractive. I say 2these women who blatantly lied; the truth of this matter is; You wanted to touch him not he you. In short, Hell has no fury like a woman/ women scorned!
I'm not sure how after RZIM's reports concluded that these things have happened that people continue to hold RZ in such high regard, to victim shame after many victims, unknown to eachother, have come forward with similar accounts and proof has been presented, and proof that stand up to biblical standards, is truly baffling to me.
This is a huge part of what is wrong with the church. You will protect a predator by calling victims liars and continue to put RZ on a pedestal?
The bible clearly states that those who teach will be judged with greater strictness than those who do not. So we do not get to dismiss what has happened as oh he's just another sinner.
This was not a stupid man. He knew what he was doing was wrong, and he chose to do it anyway in arrogance and defiance to the scriptures and God.
Now there is a wake of victims, those who were sexually victimized, those who were lied to for decades, those who trusted him, those in his ministry teams, even the church.
But let's continue to stick our heads in the sand and pretend this didn't happen, and blame those victims for one mans depravity. Let's keep glorifying a fallen and broken man, and not Jesus himself who demands truth, who IS TRUTH.
Y'all need to go back to scripture and pray for God to open your eyes, as you are not seeing truth, you're actually actively denying truth and that is not a biblical response to what has happened here.
Thank you for this episode . To those who are bullying the legacy of Ravi let us remember what Jesus said "who among you is sinless cast the first stone"
So ture
1st letter of John said that. The point is, Ravi is a high profile preacher that the "christian" society should be seeing him untainted.
Matsung longkumer, “ bullying the legacy of Ravi”? Seriously? Can’t you accept the truth of his behavior? It’s not “bullying” Ravi when we tell you what he did, how he treated vulnerable women and others. Do your research.
@@kurtanderson5023 then you the elec! That can cast the first stone!!? Kurt one day we all be in the judgement day to pay for what we did!
But now in this earth we need to pray for our brothers and sisters encourage them according to the Bible! Maybe you and a lot people like you need to read more the scriptures and let the judgment to the lord that knows everything
@@deliarobinson3185 I always appreciate the encouragement to read and study Gods Word.
But that isn’t the issue here. Ravi harmed and manipulated many innocent people. That’s a fact and there is evidence. Commenters like myself have a moral obligation to point out, using Gods love, what Ravi did. Or what others do to innocent victims. Our desire is to follow the steps that Paul told Timothy to follow.
You can “encourage” those who mistreat others like Ravi did. But I won’t. I will disqualify them from the ministry and warn others about their manipulative, deceitful behavior. That is the Biblical response that God demands of us. Do you want to protect innocent people or allow them to be harmed injured and violated?
Thank you for this compassionate video.
Christians should not sink into a vile mob mentality.
I do not believe for one minute that your statement is true. That has not happened in the Christian community. There is zero "vile mob mentality" concerning what has happened to Margie or Ravi. To talk about what's happened is a very healthy thing that families do. We cannot always be talking about sunshine & puppies. We must discuss all topics openly bcuz Ravi's sin was done openly. Margie has to stuff bcuz those are the consequences. Sad but true.
I appreciate the sentiment. Many Christians have done well in this matter. Many people are truly heartbroken - and we should never follow the world with words of disrespect to Margie.
@@marcieanderson3762 What a sad representation of ‘Christians’ you are.
If you are one.
I pity you. Ask Jesus to help you see what you don’t. And to forgive you for your blindness.
Apparently you haven’t read much in comments on other videos made by those like you, who are almost gleefully spewing their personal takes on this horror show.
Even some vile spewers on this one.
@@marcieanderson3762 did you ask the Holy Spirit His Truth on this before you jumped on board the condemnation boat?
If there’s one thing Evangelical Christians love to do, it’s to condemn other Christians.
That Pharisee up at the front of the sanctuary never knew he was surrounded by a great host of The Holier Than Them.
All love and appreciation to Margie and family. Ravi taught me, and I listen to his sermons today. I loved him and always appreciate his brilliance and teachings. May God continue in love, strengthen, and providing for Margie and family.
The enemy knows that Jesus is coming soon that is why he is so angry with the good news that Ravi spread. I grew a lot by listening to his teachings.No matter what the enemy do the Spirit will let the seeds grow that had fallen in good ground.
He did what he had to teach the good news and he is now going to get the crown 👑 that he was working for amen
Thank you for remembering that we are not here to criticize and vilify each other when things go wrong. Margie is a human being who loved her husband and her world crashed when he died. My heart broke for her and her children and grandchildren. God will carry her through this, however we should help not hinder that journey.
As Jesus said, who is without sin, cast the 1st stone. Praying for Margie and family.
100% True! This Man Is Condemning Ravi Over And Over And Trying To Make Is Channel Famous SHAME ON HIM? Guilty Or Not Judgement Belongs To God! Not For Morons Like This?
We have all fallen short of the Glory of God 🙏🏼
That’s a fabricated verse
Thanks for the reminder ... Nobody is without sin.
Sorry to say. This passage was not supposed to be in the bible. Check it out
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Wow it's touching how compassionate you address Margie! My heart aches for her and what she must be going through.
Just saw the 2013 Sermon "What does it mean to be Human." It is probably one of the greatest sermons I've seen and heard in my life. I wish God would have used me to speak in that fashion and manner. Great Sermon! Great Sermon!
God's grace and love is greater than our sins. May God be with her and give her a strong heart.
I learnt alot from listening to Ravi Zechariah Q&A on all topics biblically.
Many did. Try to keep that in the forefront. It will get easier as time allows.
He was well versed in his mind.
It doesn’t appear to have reached the depths of his heart, however.
His final destination is between him & God. I would think he begged forgiveness on his deathbed.
Just sad he didn’t from Margie. :/
Satan always mixes a load of truth with his lies. That's how he "deceive[s] the nations" (Rev. 20:8)
I met him when he was in Jakarta, it was an honor meeting him. Whatever he did when he was still alive, we must remember that he was a human, we worship our Lord Jesus Christ. We must forgive and move on and that’s what being Christian is!!!
There's being human then repenting. Then there is living a lifestyle of lies, adultery, manipulation, rape and taking from God to finance it all and using His name as a shield to cover it up and crush others in the process. Read the investigation on what they found out he did. I heard it read to me and wanted a bath afterwards. Christians CANNOT sweep this under a rug. If we do, we alienate every victim of sexual abuse that we should be reaching out to and make ourselves a mockery for a double standard of morality. I'm not saying we should bury RZ's family, it's likely they are his victims too. But we cannot make light of this and call ourselves a people that fear God. The truth is God hates this behavior more RZ's victims do. The situation is horrifying and tragic.
Mimi Gee. Amen. I thank our LORD, that I gleaned from Brother Ravi's teachings, many truths for my growth, as a Christian. I shall ever be grateful to our LORD, for using Brother Raviis teachings, to feed the multitudes. All other things I offer into YOUR HANDS, in JESUS NAME Amen.
It's not for us to forgive, it's for those he betrayed and abused to forgive him so that their prayers are not impeded and that they obey God.
@@Stranger_Than_Fiction299 I agree with your statement 100 percent. We all sin but when we ask God for forgiveness then we are to stop the sinful behavior. I feel for his family and all who trusted him!
@@Stranger_Than_Fiction299 amen!
The choice is ours. One of the best sermons that I’ve ever heard came from Ravi at Mount Paran years ago. Do I throw the sermon away? The word that he preached is still the word. The word doesn’t change, no matter who preaches it. When I hear the word my answer should always be amen! There are scores of videos here that Ravi left, and the Holy Spirit can still guide the unbeliever with them, or they can be used for study. What Ravi did in answering questions people have about the gospel is something we all should be able to do.
Thank you for showing us what compassion looks like...
My heart has been broken for Margie since the first rumor of this detestable situation came up. She has been in prayers constantly. It is beyond the scope of my imagination what she must be going through. May God's grace, wisdom, strength and comfort envelope her constantly. Thank you so much for posting this. Blessings to you.
Amen Beverly. Thanks for speaking into this and for praying for everyone who is affected. Please keep praying!!
Thank you Adam. As always your kindness and passion for the truth shines though! I feel so for Margie and the family. It is time to let them grieve in peace now!
Thank you, Wendy! I’m with you on that and was hoping to share a different perspective. Appreciate you being on the journey!
Thank you so so much for posting this.❤
You're so welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!
I have been careful not to listen to many peoples' commentary regarding Ravi's legacy. I felt compelled to watch this video. You eloquently provided a snapshot to allow us to see into Margie's experience. Acknowledging the depth and complexity of her grieving experience, which from the outside looking has been trivialized. Thank you for your Christ-hearted response.
@ForeverSong This means a lot, thank you! Like I share in the video, I honestly had NO intention of speaking into this, especially with so many other videos that I’ve done. Then I decided to pray about it and ask the Lord what HE wanted as opposed to MY plans-always a dangerous move 🙂. He allowed me the “snapshot” that you mentioned and it was Him and ONLY Him! You’ve encouraged my heart and I want to thank you for confirming that I made the right choice by stepping out in faith on this one. Thanks for being a blessing!
It has truly broken my heart that a grieving widow is being treated this way. No compassion for her and what she must be going through! Thank you, Adam, for saying what has been on my heart. Have I become so obsessed with justice that i have forgotten that Christ commands me to forgive everyone who sins against .me? This is the same Jesus Who prayed. "Father, forgive them, " as they were nailing his hands and feet to a Cross, where he sufferwd and died for MY sins!
Well, said.
Prayers for Margie, her family and Ravi’s staff. What a heartbreaking time that they had very little time to adjust to.
The failings of men do not erase Gods greatness in them.
Amen Sister! 🙌
Thank You SO MUCH for those words! That really touched me.
Amen to that !!
Satan knows everyone's weakness. Satan must have worked hard against Ravi because he had such important things to say. Ravi was human as we all are. He sinned and so do we all. "He who has not sinned may cast the first stone."
God bless Margi.
Amen, I agree with you 100%. Satan is hard at work to kill his life's work as he has always been able to turn atheists into children of God.
Except that this was at least a decade long, methodically planned out abuse and manipulation of women. This wasn't a temporary fall into temptation. He had women he abused PRAY with him, thanking God for the opportunity to share sex with him. Then he warned them not to tell, because if people thought he was evil, thousands of people would turn away from God. That is pure evil. This is beyond normal.
God does not expect us to rub the guys shoulder in understanding and comfort. God would more likely call him a snake and viper. Do not feel obligated to feel compassionate toward him.
Cathy, let’s stop blaming Satan. Ravi did this intentionally and repeatedly for years.
@@kurtanderson5023 True. Satan can torment people with temptation, but our giving in to our sin nature is all on us.
Stop giving credit to Satan....every man has choices and as a Christian ...power of Christ
I have walked through the heartache of infidelity. My husband was someone I never thought would ever be capable of such a betrayal. This woman was someone he witnessed to at the gym and than claimed she was a friend. She actually came to church and sat with our family in church. I had a strong intuition that their relationship was becoming much more than friendship I addressed it with him and he of course denied it. He would not give up her “friendship”. I sought help from our church. There are so many more details to what happened and what I went through. My husband ultimately decided he needed to leave and within a week he was with this woman. Believe me when I tell you that they were people that actually said I should have made him give up the friendship. I did ask him to stop the friendship with her but he refused. The Lord held me and carried me through this painful experience. And the thing that is most amazing is that the Lord helped me to forgive even in the midst of all of this because of his great love for me. If I did not forgive I would not be able to go forward with my life. I did not want to remain a victim of someone else’s infidelity for the rest of my life. Please understand that his wife is not the one that should be criticized or hurt even more especially from her own brothers and sisters in Christ. They should be holding her up and supporting her through all of this. I cannot imagine her grief losing her husband and finding all of this out after his death. A secret life. And if she had any inkling that there might’ve been something going on can you imagine that pain. I have been there I know what it does to you it eats away at you even though the person that is involved in the infidelity continues to make you feel like you are just not trusting them. I pray that those around her and those brothers and sisters she has known for years would help her and in time of need him to forgive to move on. The one thing is to remember God always uses our pain for his glory that we can help others that go through the same experience.
Your former Husband is not a man he's a boy that doesn't know Christ. I'm so sorry you went through this Patricia 😞. 'If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.' (1 John 1:6
My heart truly goes out to you! Thank goodness we have God and He has you. ❤️
So much strength in your words. You truly overcame the hurt, now you are brilliant. Now that you're free you can give so much! If we stood the trial we earn the crown.
I hear you but i have only one question: Did you do your homework?
Your heart of compassion ought to be cloned a million times over! God bless you!
Amen sister
She's being victimized by so-called "Christians." I'll be praying for her.
Right... most so called Christians have not only no true faith but they have no heart. They don't have any heart toward anyone or anything that does not benefit themselves. This my friend, is Christianity in the 21st century...has nothing to do with Christ.
Judgemental ignorance
I love your Bassett....
My heart goes out to her and her family. May God help them to find peace and comfort instead of judgement.
Amen, Heather! Praying that prayer alongside of you today for everyone involved!
Ravi is in heaven, he gave his life to his ministry.I admire Margie for her statement. I follow him for years. He loved Jesus. Let's not be so eager to judge him.I pray for his wife and family .We are not here to Judge, grace and mercy to us all.
Adam, thanks for producing this spiritual and heartfelt segment. I came back to faith in Christ almost 2 years ago, heavily influenced by many of Ravi's videos online and a couple of his books. He had just died when I came around and then a few months later all of these "revelations" come out about him. Yes, I was disappointed that it seemed evident that Ravi had some sin issues, but I have been totally appalled at the venomous, judgmental critiques, most of whom claim to be Christians, that kick this dead man when he is gone. I'm not trying to defend any wrong actions of Ravi, but there are certainly questions of why so many of these people and women came out against him AFTER he died. IF all of these accusations are true, one also needs to ask if there was not complicity in the sin by many of his accusers.
Finally, my main issue is with purported Christian's reactions to this in the public forum of RUclips and the internet. The judgers and accusers of this dead man will stand at the same throne of judgment Ravi will. I think it will be very interesting to hear what God says to each and every party.
Even if Ravi was guilty of all accusations, it does not change who God is or did through Ravi. Judging by the fruits of his ministry just in my own life, I will not sit among the accusers and judges quietly. I will not let secularists or Christian judges convince me that his books and works are "trash" to be obliterated. If that is the case, I can give you a long list of "famous Christians" who should then be treated equally. Based on the Ravi Ministries atrocious treatment of Margie, I will no longer be looking to them as sources of trusted input as they obviously have just been fighting to survive by trashing their founder.
God's grace is sufficient, even for Ravi. Compare his sins with those of many of "God's favorites" in the old testament and then come back and convince me that somehow Ravi was NOT chosen by God or question his salvation. You are in error to judge...and Christians are never to judge their brother, especially in front of the unGodly and heathens that most of the world is made up by. Shame on many of these Christian "judges"...and I pray that repentance of the judges will eventually win out over the venom and negative spirits they have conjured up or gone along with.
The church overall has a lot of blood on its hands in handling these kinds of circumstances and sinners. I still say the worst thing about Christianity as a religion is how it kicks their soldiers when they are down or dead...or takes on the role of judgment that God will not share with any other but Himself!
Continued prayers for Margie and her family...
@@AttySig King David was outed and admitted his sin and Ravi Zacharias lied and tried to hide what he did.
@@AttySig But God didn't allow David's sin to be hidden and David was still punished and his punishment affected many in his life beginning with the innocent infant son. Why should Ravi deserve the same legacy as King David is it because like David he admitted what he did? Oh wait a minute Ravi didn't.
@@AttySig First I never said I knew whether or not Ravi repented before he died and I can only hope so. But if I were you I wound not compare him to King David. When David was confronted with his sin by the prophet Nathan he "acknowledged it" he didn't go to his grave lying. It was not covered up, it was not hidden, it is in the Bible for everyone to read and his repentance is in Psalm 51 for everyone to see.
Hearing you say you came back to Christ lifted my heart a little, knowing it can happen when you’re his.
Thank you Edward. My sentiments exactly. Do these so called Christians write David out of their bible? and what about Solomon, Sampson, and others who failed during their lives?
What about me? I wouldn't be here if it was not for the grace and salvation of Jesus.
Thank you so much for standing up on this very difficult situation.
Thank you for this truely Christlike response. Keep your eyes on Christ and Christ alone. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Amen! Thank you, Lulu.
Thank you for showing what it is to have compassion.
Amen to that
I have questioned the motives of people on You Tube talking about this since day one. I made sure I only listened to very few, trustworthy Christians who don't want to gossip about or sensationalize anything on their channels. I read the RZIM letters and reports for myself because I had been on their email list prior to these discussed situations. I prayed for the wife and family. The situation seems complicated and tragic for many. I don't know anyone personally at any level, so I can only pray and believe the Lord will come into the situations, hearts and lives of all involved and bring healing, peace and good out of it. I just happened to see this video that came up in my feed. Keep praying and keep looking into our own hearts in our own lives. Follow Jesus.
Amen.
The shock is wearing off now. Reality is setting in.
Margie & the whole family needs prayer, always.
We all have things we would be ashamed of if our dirty laundry was hung out for the world to see.
Anyone who says they don’t, is a LIAR. And we know how God feels about that.
We've no right to vilify Ravi. What Ravi accomplished for Jesus n the millions of lives he touched across the world. We still are scratching the surface. He that is without sin let him cast the first stone. Let us bear the families margee n the children in our prayer. I'll always look unto Ravi as a mentor, teacher, preacher, edifier. I'm sure Ravi is safe in the arms of Jesus. Just like the thief on the cross. Jesus said to him today ull be with me in paradise. God bless.
I never believed allegations against Ravi Zacharias for the reason that the RZIM board violated the Bible by reaching out to unbelievers to conduct the investigation - clear violation of 1 Corinthians 6. Maybe they need to focus less on apologetics and more on the pure Word of God. They chose to believe a professional (in my view) gold digger - just listen to her giving interviews - she is a clever phycologist and had a strategy to take down Ravi. I don't understand why the board decided to believe a married woman who takes naked selfies and sends them to strangers. It's shameful that the RZIM board members, colleagues and friends got blindsided and CANCELed Ravi.
It is so sad that the " christians " are treating such a beautiful woman this way. Her husband is the sinner, not her. When my husband cheated on me my friends and family were there for me, as we should all be. God give her the strength and courage to over come this storm.
The reason they are attacking her is because she is defending him and said he was innocent.
@@mandersdaro8136 And he may very well have been. Oddly noone attacked or accused him publically til he was no longer around to defend the accusations. Satan loves to destroy the legacy y ministry of God's servants.
@@SoldierDrew not true at all. There are a few victims who were public about their interaction with him before he died. One was sued by Ravi. Others waited till he could not do anything to them. I see no problem with a victim waiting until it’s safe to come forward.
@@kurtanderson5023 What is the outcome of the legal action took against his accusers? Was it dismissed, settled out of court or the defendant was found guilty? It is after judgment that it can be said whether or not Ravi was innocent.
@@edemekwo2974 google the case of Ravi and Lori Anne Thompson. Briefly he sued her in Federal Court making it more difficult for her to respond because she is a Canadian citizen. It was settled out of court and NDA’s were signed by both sides. Within 2 months Ravi broke the NDA. Thompson has not been released from the NDA. It is widely believed that Margie holds the NDA of Thompson preventing Thompson from publicly releasing details. This was not a criminal case.
Thank you for this, Adam. We should ask ourselves, what would Jesus do? I hope we are doing what He would do, mourn with those who mourn. Why do Christians shoot their wounded? Margie was truthful, she could not find anything suspicious. She is a good, faithful wife, God bless her. 😢
Margie faith in GOD is as truthful as RAVI's faith in GOD. Ravi taught us wisdom from GOD. He did not profess but spoke technically about Jesus and his belief in GOD. We will love him always, Margie and family too. MALAYSIA
Johan, South Africa.
Margie my heart bleeds for you and the family. I praise Gods name and thank Him for putting me and my wife in touch with Ravi thru RUclips.
We will always remember his wisdom in showing us the true road of Christ. God bless you and your family.
Thank you Adam, I don't talk about the situation at all. My heart breaks for the family. Margie should never have been treated the way she has been.
They waited until after he died, then they came out to take everything he had. They waited until he couldn't defend himself. He bought that massage place, after he got hurt in a bad personal area on his body. He wasn't trying to hide it, he talked about it when he traveled, because it helped him. He was doing a good thing, because he was also helping other people, with employment. It was to help people, get relief from their injury, and pain, without feeling embarrassed. When he got sick with cancer and needed to stop the money flow, they were only concerned about the business. They were thinking about themselves, and got attorneys that were not Christian. They saw how much he was worth, and they started planning. His injury was in a personal area, and they knew how to get to that area. They were supposed to be like nurses/ professionals. He wasn't hiding anything, and his family should have sued them, for slander and defamation against Ravi. After he died, their lawyer had a RUclips livestream asking if anyone else knew anything. I started asking them questions, and they had no answers. Dead men can't defend themselves. They got away with their crimes here on earth, but not when they go into the afterlife. There is no proof, only a set up. Ravi knew God, and would have been afraid to die without repenting. He would have told her about it, no matter how much it hurt her. Ravi feared our awesome God, and spent his life trying to bring others to the truth. He would have just stayed home, with his family, and done some other work for God. The devil is a liar, he wants to destroy, and that is what he tried to do to Ravi and the family he had to leave behind. This entire lawsuit was to make his family feel like they never knew Ravi. I pray that they see that this was planned, and God will have the last word. Ravi told them he had to close that business because it wasn't making any money, it was losing money. He was talking about it in public, so it was no secret, or ugly, like they made it out to be. I am so sad for his family, and pray they don't believe the lies. They treated his family like trash, and they will all regret everything they allowed, for money. The love of money, and attorneys who don't know God, are the devil's combination to destroy good people who love Jesus.
If every single one of us had to have our hidden "sins" put on a "screen"... What would others see and how would you like or need them to respond or comment. Stop and think before passing jusgement on Ravi. We all have things in our lives we hope will never be exposed to the public, even if we have repented of them. Ravi loved his wife and family. I will continue to be thankful for how God used him.
You're obviously none of his victims.
AMEN!!!!!!
Your comments are so true , hands up the Christian who has not sinned!!! .but has been forgiven upon confession by the blood of Jesus,hallelujah ! ,
Why do we ‘grade’ sins , a lie is a sin , to steal is a sin ALL sin is an abomination to GOD that’s why it was necessary for Jesus to die .
Ravi was gifted by God and he used this gift for God ,so (Christians) let him who has no sin cast the first stone
GOD is the ONLY JUDGE , !
GOD bless you and comfort you Margie and your family
Love you all - caveman
Amen 👏👏👏
You right.. I was not one of his victims, however, I was a victim of many others. Through that, God has used my story for His Glory and I forgave all my perpetrators and prayed for them and their salvation. I don't condone what Ravi did at all. Pray for his family who have to pick up the brunt of his actions.
When I first saw online that there was some kind of scam about Ravi I wouldn't look at it or listen to it. I just kept saying, "Whatever it is I don't believe it." My second thought was, "His poor family! His poor wife!" I pray for them daily. What's being done to them is horrendous!
Please read my comment. - C. Williams
Ravis secret activities are horrendous. True.
@@jonyoung6405 I feel so sorry for his family. They didn't do anything wrong.
@@LillieLong The "family did nothing wrong". Is a gross understatement. RZIM is filled with nepotism and close buddies. One clear example is Ravi would spend 6-8 months alone in city of Bangkok to write a "Christian book" . Did anyone in his family ask any questions? Ravi was a cash cow that offered an opulent lifestyle to those around him.
God plz be with Margie
I dont stand with ravi tho and know what he did is indefensible. As a sexual abuse survivor and my abuser was a missionary i know what he was like i lived thru atrocities too. These men are all the same and have no shame. Its so sad that his family is paying for what he did. I hope they can rally and stop trying to defend him.
What did he do wrong?
Remember that it's not about you - it's about Ravi's family. I'm sorry for the abuse that you suffered, but it's time that we show some compassion to this family. They've been through enough.
@@gracehall776 their going thru trials does not have anything to do with what ravi did and that was rape women. Whats that have to do with what his wife is going thru. She needs support so she can see that defending him is un necessary. What ravi did is not defendable.
@@gracehall776 so ravi s victims is it about them or no not them either 👎
Let him that is without sin cast the first stone. We need to pray for mercy and let God be God and consider our own selves we all fall short.
Thank you brother Adam. God Bless you! We need to pray for Margie and her family.
May God give them the strength to stay strong during these tough times.
Yes and amen, MN. Seeing them through this lens helped me to even pray more “clearly” for them and for the victims involved. Hope that makes sense.
It definitely does, brother. God Bless!
As many other commenters have said, when this happened and unfolded my heart immediately went to Margie.
On the other hand, our sin (financial, social, emotional, sexual, etc.) effects our life beyond ourselves. In addition to be gracious It SHOULD also be commentary on how your sin has far greater consequences as it ripples through other people’s lives.
Very well said, Olivia!
How but all the woman that were abused and shot down by Christians , they didn’t believe them. But believed ministry . God is cleaning up and let justice come to victims
That is what I thought too. I felt really bad for her. I can’t imagine what she is going through and I don’t blame her for feeling the way she does, whether people call it denial or not. A woman of God has been broken into pieces, her heart is shattered. She thought her husband was for her but it turned out she didn’t know him as well as she thought she knew him. He lived a double life. She became a victim of his actions. I still remember the way Ravi talked about his wife whenever he gave speeches...I thought it was so beautiful and I said that is some Godly marriage and that is what all of us Christians should strive to have but nothing is what it seemed like. How can she think that a man who she thought loved her wholeheartedly for this many years would do such a vile action to her. I understand her feelings and I sympathize with her, no need to call her out. People need to show grace of what she is going through and like you said she is morning two deaths. The magnitude of feeling she is going through is far beyond what others are saying as they are watching it from the sideline and not actually going through it. It is easy to call out whenever you are on the sideline seat but it isn’t so easy when you are in. It. People should put their shoes in her place and think about what they would feel if that was them. My only prayer is that may God give her abundant comfort and strength to move through this unimaginable pain.
After being married to my wonderful God-given husband of 52 years, and being a widow for the last 13 years, I can understand the heartbreak of Margie with all those memories to look back upon and the loneliness she must be feeling.
I had so much respect for Ravi and loved his teachings and his wisdom and the books he wrote. None of us are perfect, who is justified to throw the first stone? I praise the Lord for His forgiveness and mercy and the restoration He brings to the hurting hearts. My sincere love and prayers are for you Margie. May you experience the ongoing love, the strength, and peace that only God can give. 🎚🙏
She didn't miss him too bad when he went over seas for months at a time to be with the other women.
in short, the ministry he started dumped his family? Lesson: Don't put trust in people. Provide for your family even after you're gone. Only heaven will bring permanent comfort and treat you well.
The visual aide lesson in all of this should be, be sure your sin find you out. Do not sin! Sin has consequences on your loved ones. The ministry didn't dump Margie. Ravi violated the standards of the ministry that he started. I agree in that Margie trusted her husband Ravi & he let her down. He didn't provide for her. Ravi committed the sin against the victim's, his wife & his family & ministry. Big object lesson if you ask me.
Amen!!
@@sofiadaly2992 Innocent until proven guilty. Gossip is not evidence in a court of law.
My heart goes out to her. I can’t imagine. I pray the Lord wraps his arms around her heart. 🙏🏼❤️
Wouldn’t hurt to pray for all their salvation.
THIS VIDEO IS EXACTLY HOW BELIEVERS SHOULD TREAT EACH OTHER!! While I am NOT condoning anything that has been found out about Ravi, who would want their life lay open before the world? Does anyone of us measure up? Does ANYONE want their whole private world made public for all to comment on? Thank you for reminding Believers that THIS^^^ is Christ's heart toward us. MAY IT BE OURS TOWARDS EACH OTHER!
Thank you brother for recording and posting.
This is awful for Margie. I completely understand why she's so traumatised. But very sadly, both things can be true. It's possible for Ravi to have loved her, love his family and reveal a different side himself to others. It's possible that he was skilled at concealing his predatory conduct from his loved ones. That's what manipulators do. This is a terrible situation. Prayers for all affected 🙏
Well said!
Yes. He lived a duplicitous life.
Im praying for all those who were abused, let church speak truth , not cover up . God wants justice.
I could not agree more. The families of people who commit criminal acts are the hidden victims. I have been there myself.
@@suecrompton5400 Sorry to hear 🥺
During my most challenging years, Ravi’s messages gave me hope and helped me cope. When I heard of his death I was so sad and cried, not long after that I started seeing messages on RUclips about scandals and for my heart’s sake I just refused to watch or listen to any of them. The truth is, one day we will all stand before the Lord Jesus and hear what He has to say about us. No one, not one of us is righteous, it is only those that come under the righteousness of Christ that will stand. We all sin, we all hurt people in different ways and to various degrees. Some people’s sins are exposed for the whole world to see but they are forgiven by God because they asked earnestly for mercy and repented. You just never know the whole story.
Thank you for this important post. There is far too much condemnation out there, without a thought for the members of his family and friends
Thanks Colin! Glad it resonated.
My observation is;churches and Christian people often talk about love and forgiveness, but when push comes to shove, they don't usually practice it.i say that as a practicing Christian for 50yrs.🇳🇿
It seems that Ravi's death has left temptation in it's wake !
" Let Him Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone."
Out of context.
Good for you, @@postscriptciara! Keep casting those stones!
@@donde2k when a verse like this is continually taken out of context then we should point it out. That’s how we grow closer to Christ - by knowing the truth of his Word. It’s not “casting stones” to point this out.
@@kurtanderson5023 We Christians also need to remember that......God....The Alpha and Omega, the Great "I Am".....IS the judge!!!!! We have no right to be Judgemental knowing that Christ suffered, forgave and died for our Salvation. I would like to know how many were brought to Christ by this man? Only God knows.
Adam, thank you so much for bringing a genuinely compassionate, human face and voice to the situation for Margie. ❤️
It is absolutely impossible to begin to understand what this is really like for her, but I have thought many times of her and their children, and how deeply their hearts will be hurting. 💕
This multiple layered grief process must be like sitting under a gigantic boulder for them.
I have close personal friends who have mentored me from a position of Christian leadership for many years.
It recently emerged that the husband has sexually abused young boys over a number of years 😪
He is now convicted - he pled guilty to a reduced charge from the original - and is awaiting sentencing.
It has rocked and shocked our circles. ❤️
We must continue to pray for the families, and many of us are praying for this guy to allow Jesus to heal his heart as well.
She definitely needs prayer 🙏🏽 and support during this season of her life. I am disappointed that RZIM found the need for her to vacate her home after promising she could remain there as long as she wanted.
I am very sad and disappointed too that RZIM asked her to vacate the house within 90 days. That is cruel and inhumane. Being in the ministry myself for 23 years and going through a struggle from the organization I can feel the pain Margie. Just hold on! God will never leave you nor forsake you and family 🙏🏻🙏🏻 We are continuously praying for you and children.
Agreed
Petty and cruel.... why punish this widow? I’m pretty certain Our Lord would not approve this cruel behavior.
Her daughter is the CEO of RZIM. I don’t understand this family but pray for them. It was disappointing in her email that she mentioned John MacArthur. I hope they truly are believers.
The entire ministry is being sued by victims.
Their home is attached to the ministry. So it seems natural that she would not be able to stay under those circumstances.
She will probably do better living w/family, anyway. More support around her.
She needs all the prayer she can get.
I don't believe Mrs Z has been doing anything wrong. I forgive him because I have to, I feel for Mrs Z if I understand she didn't know he was doing this. God bless her and his victims. Praise God. Hallelujah to the Lamb. Glory to God.
Praise GOD!! Thank You for your kindness. To the merciful, God will show himself merciful.❤️
Well said! I even heard Margie's name mispronounced at Ravi's televised Memorial. I was NOT PLEASED!!! THANK YOU FOR RECORDING THIS!!!
Awesome, thanks Robert!
I will pray for Margie that the Lord will protect her. I believe since Ravi is not with her anymore she has come under attack from the enemy as she is a daughter of the living God. As it is written “whoever is without sin cast the first stone “.
Has no one ever read that “ you will be judged as you judge others” ? Lord Bless Margie abundantly I pray, Amen
Ravi was a great apologist preacher/teacher who defended the truth of the gospel. Let us not be hasty in judging anybody, leave apart the man who devoted his life for the Kingdom of our beloved Saviour Lord Jesus Christ. We are not here on this planet earth to defend the sins of somebody or to judge somebody. That is the work of the Holy Spirit. Be careful about your own self that you are not standing on the sinking sand and some time in future you also get overcome by the carnal desires. Let us put on the humility of our Savior Lord Jesus Christ and strive always day and night for the salvation of millions of perishing souls. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." (Matt 7 : 1 to 5). I appeal to all my readers to refrain from commenting on somebody's dark side and rather let us firmly deny ourselves, life up our own cross and walk whole-heartedly in the foot-steps of our beloved Saviour Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you all. JESUS IS COMING SOON. MARANATHA. Hallelujah. Amen.