Something that I really appreciate Nelly does (especially in Showdown matches) is offering his honest opinion on his opponent's plays for things like "what to take with hand attack"
I always feel like this channel uploads real slow, but then I look back at videos and it’s like “1 day ago. 2 days ago. 4 days ago” Maybe I’m just addicted lmao good game fellas
In a world with the one ring, the initiative, Urza’s saga, and the evoke elementals, I think stifle is better than it’s ever been. Especially since you can use it for tricks like stifling the loss of life for your own one ring, or countering the triggered ability that lets them take the initiative from you.
I think there's a cool line that got breezed over game 1 where Ben uses the reanimate to take Nelly's myr battlesphere. 7 life is a lot but Getting a huge blocker to stonewall the double etched champion threat in Nelson's hand while also removing it as an option for combos later with goblin welder seems like a worthwhile enough trade. Especially knowing how few colorless options Ben has in his deck to deal with threats. It opens up the threat of Nelly copying it with the metamorph but that's something a mardu deck is much better positioned to handle.
My favourite moment is how Myr ball is canlander playable, "terrible myr" is one of may favourite EDH kindred decks, so it's wild seeing ot's best card is ~fine~
i really appreciate the content with a different ben! Great vibe throughout the entire video. He did make a million misplays throughout the matches but that's okay cause it was entertaining :D
I was not ready for a mardu deck to be built on 4s so much that keeping a 2 lander goes from being mildly sketchy at worst all the way up to a real misplay. Guess that's just the initiative for you.
1) Im a nerd who noticed the credits where wrong. 2) loved game three. Watching Nelly fight out from under the Norn oppression was great, and as soon as he got a turn without his ETBs, what a huge swing. GG to both parties (Also Ben, I dont think missing the tamiyo attack mattered in the end, for what its worth)
at ~53:00, why not attack with a spirit at tamiyo? that would kill that PW and solve potential future problems. Especially since the spirits have haste and I really doubt an unsuited welder is blocking.
Yeah, not clearing the walker felt like a mistake to me. Especially since there was a Shadowspear offering trample. This means a 1/1 isn't that effective of a chump blocker in case Nelson goes for the aggressive line of throwing all the equipment on the welder and attacking.
Edit: I should have watched the next thirty seconds of the video, Paul caught this. LMAO 40:00 I had to deal with a similar weird ruling in OTJ limited when I cast One Last Job and wanted to get a Buried in the Garden back with it. An aura can't be put onto the battlefield - or in this case, created - enchanting something it can't legally enchant; if that would happen, you just do nothing instead. So the Not Dead After All doesn't make a Wicked Role token and Nelly doesn't lose the one life. (In my case, I ended up getting a Gold Pan back instead and stuck that on one of the creatures I returned.)
I’m sorry Ben, but unfortunately Scatman John died in 1999, only a few years after he got famous. Fun fact about him; he had a horrible stutter, so bad it was basically a speech impediment. Following the footsteps of his favorite musicians Luis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald, he learned how to scat, and became the scatman john we know and love today. Everyone reading this should listen to Everybody Jam, it’s a banger.
I think there’s a neat line in game 1 ( 15:27 ) where Ben can galvanic discharge (or eliminate) the etched champion after Nellie sacks the treasure to cast metamorph… could’ve been Powerful!
The original Myr Enforcer art is some of my favorite art in Magic. I always thought it looked like something out of an Akira Toriyama joint whenever he tried to design something futuristic looking. Calling it a Teletubby is.. I dunno. I have no affection for that.
Feeling like Ben had multiple opportunities to bounce Tamiyo with Karakas (especially after the Fell the Profane was cast). Like in response to the second clue being cracked. Maybe I'm missing something
He could have baited it at one point and got it with the bolt, but Nelly was playing pretty tight being able to flip her in response. Slightly annoyed at Mindstone being in with the lands but such is paper magic.
I feel like ben should have bolted the shaman instead of removing the saga Then after he could apparition the mox and kept the artifacts count low G3 he could have karakasd tamio tons of times, but chose not to, so nelsob drew his outs
Regarding playing Not Dead After All on Kiki-Jiki and the interaction between Elesh Norn, Taimyo and Living Weapon in game 3 and not knowing what will happen rules-wise: a player can announce the play and then you can just look it up. This is still edited content. You don't have to show us the time you spent looking it up. You can edit that out. Maybe insert a funny pause screen. Yes, it will interrupt the flow of the game and the casual style. But if you want to showcase the decks and possible includes, it might be better they are played correctly.
nelly's shirt is a clean cool monocolor. bengineering's color is bland; it allows the pattern to pop. there's simply too many different use-cases to determine a single best shirt.
Whoa, whoa. I can't believe they replaced Surge. I'm glad they kept Ben around... he looks a little weird, but I thought he was called Wheeler.
According to the credits, It' still featuring Serge! They didn't replace him, just made him look like a Bengineer.
Something that I really appreciate Nelly does (especially in Showdown matches) is offering his honest opinion on his opponent's plays for things like "what to take with hand attack"
someone let ben down gently that the scatman left us two and half decades ago
The way I tugged at my collar when Ben asked about Scatman John😂 RIP to a legend.
Died in 1999, so I don't think he'll be touring
I always feel like this channel uploads real slow, but then I look back at videos and it’s like “1 day ago. 2 days ago. 4 days ago”
Maybe I’m just addicted lmao good game fellas
you all need to put the goblin shaman token on a little chain like the pens at the bank
this guy gets it
In a world with the one ring, the initiative, Urza’s saga, and the evoke elementals, I think stifle is better than it’s ever been. Especially since you can use it for tricks like stifling the loss of life for your own one ring, or countering the triggered ability that lets them take the initiative from you.
Oh absolutely! Stifle and Tidebinder are almost auto includes in any blue list I play.
I think there's a cool line that got breezed over game 1 where Ben uses the reanimate to take Nelly's myr battlesphere. 7 life is a lot but Getting a huge blocker to stonewall the double etched champion threat in Nelson's hand while also removing it as an option for combos later with goblin welder seems like a worthwhile enough trade. Especially knowing how few colorless options Ben has in his deck to deal with threats. It opens up the threat of Nelly copying it with the metamorph but that's something a mardu deck is much better positioned to handle.
Yea, it sadly „ruined“ game 1 for me, there’s no way you don’t reanimate the battlesphere there.
My favourite moment is how Myr ball is canlander playable, "terrible myr" is one of may favourite EDH kindred decks, so it's wild seeing ot's best card is ~fine~
Ben won the die roll... AGAIN?
The bens, they're like trickster gods of chance.
Oh but this is for the first time in the session and the last episode was recorded afterwards. Time is meaningless
They really need to check the local probability on the left side of the table.
Excellent, as always. Thank you!
Nelson’s shirt, and reanimating Fable of the Mirror Breaker.
Favourite moment: Nelson cloning the battle spheres
Favourite shirt: Ben
i really appreciate the content with a different ben! Great vibe throughout the entire video. He did make a million misplays throughout the matches but that's okay cause it was entertaining :D
I was not ready for a mardu deck to be built on 4s so much that keeping a 2 lander goes from being mildly sketchy at worst all the way up to a real misplay. Guess that's just the initiative for you.
I just wanted to say that as much as I love Serge and Wheeler, it's nice to seen Ben and Nelly duke it out on N100, as well!
Love seeing another face throwin down! Great game nelly and ben. Ben playing my fav deck in both canlander and edh. I play with marchesa
Nobody tell Ben that Scatman John's been dead for 25 years
Thank you all
You guys did a really good job. This might be the best mtg content duo. Keep it up
Bro, I didn't even know this was today! This is awesome, best piece of news to get on a sick day
Nellys battlebot style lists have been a real inspiration to me over the last couple months. Love to see the battleball get in!
That game 3 though! Such good tense magic
I liked flipping the Tamiyo in response to the removal. Nice Play.
Thanks for this video. Needed happy content right now.
Even after all these months, I still find it hilarious how low everyone was on the surveil lands and they are just like auto includes everywhere now.
That last game was everything I love about canlander
I'm not just biased because I love mh3 Tamiyo
Nice to see LRR is in Duskmourne-mode already.
Creatures crawl in search of blood, they hammer against the timberwood
8:24 I was hoping that someone would run and grab the "You're Brainstorming Wrong" playmat 😄
Nelly’s shirt, but if i could have ben’s shirt in sock form, that would be my go-to pick
My favorite moment was when Nelson won. ❤
Would have loved to see the synthesizer do more work, really excited about that card! And Nelly's list looks sweet
I loved Paul rocking that Whispersilk Cloak!
I simply needed to know what a deck called Teletubbies did
1) Im a nerd who noticed the credits where wrong.
2) loved game three. Watching Nelly fight out from under the Norn oppression was great, and as soon as he got a turn without his ETBs, what a huge swing. GG to both parties (Also Ben, I dont think missing the tamiyo attack mattered in the end, for what its worth)
Appreciated Nelly's very Canadian Arcade Fire reference
Excellent game 3. Just top shelf.
Two of my three favorite archetypes. EXCITING.
Loving Ben's Magic 30 OG duals
Quickly becoming my favorite pair
I'm so glad Nelson is fighting the good fight and playing Goblin Welder in 2024
While I can appreciate a light blue shirt, the black shirt with "skull pineapples" wins here I think.
Arcade fire mentioned. Fun games!
shoutout to nelly for making sure we noticed ben's cool shirt; i didn't even after looking at it for 2+ hours (counting the previous episode)
So many of Ben's cards I was just like: "What the hell is that card!?"
at ~53:00, why not attack with a spirit at tamiyo? that would kill that PW and solve potential future problems. Especially since the spirits have haste and I really doubt an unsuited welder is blocking.
Yeah, not clearing the walker felt like a mistake to me. Especially since there was a Shadowspear offering trample. This means a 1/1 isn't that effective of a chump blocker in case Nelson goes for the aggressive line of throwing all the equipment on the welder and attacking.
@@jasonmolisani1864 Also, the plus ability on the PW would make the spirits attack for 0.
Cloning the Battlesphere a second time (so 3 in total) was certainly a highlight.
Edit: I should have watched the next thirty seconds of the video, Paul caught this. LMAO
40:00 I had to deal with a similar weird ruling in OTJ limited when I cast One Last Job and wanted to get a Buried in the Garden back with it. An aura can't be put onto the battlefield - or in this case, created - enchanting something it can't legally enchant; if that would happen, you just do nothing instead. So the Not Dead After All doesn't make a Wicked Role token and Nelly doesn't lose the one life. (In my case, I ended up getting a Gold Pan back instead and stuck that on one of the creatures I returned.)
Badlands: Simultaneously representing my least favorite color combination (because I'm all about that Bant) and my favorite Bruce Springsteen song.
So sick seeing Bengineer in Showdown!!
Question though: how much do we have to pay yall to play a Jeskai Ascendency list? Lmao
Who's shirt I liked the best? What is this, Sophie's Choice?
I’m sorry Ben, but unfortunately Scatman John died in 1999, only a few years after he got famous. Fun fact about him; he had a horrible stutter, so bad it was basically a speech impediment. Following the footsteps of his favorite musicians Luis Armstrong and Ella Fitzgerald, he learned how to scat, and became the scatman john we know and love today. Everyone reading this should listen to Everybody Jam, it’s a banger.
Ben-gineering's POT shirt is the winner
Love this show so much
That is... an evocative deck name.
Grixis teletubbies are the best.
In my opinion it would improve greatly by including metalworker
Metalworker is a Big X card and not a Battle Bots card, though.
Oh man, how do you like the Grixis build vs the Esper build Nelly? Your Esper robots list is one of my favs right now.
Can’t beat making copies of big artifacts for the win!
I think there’s a neat line in game 1 ( 15:27 ) where Ben can galvanic discharge (or eliminate) the etched champion after Nellie sacks the treasure to cast metamorph… could’ve been Powerful!
sadly he didnt have the mana up
oh lol of course, silly me! thx
The original Myr Enforcer art is some of my favorite art in Magic. I always thought it looked like something out of an Akira Toriyama joint whenever he tried to design something futuristic looking.
Calling it a Teletubby is.. I dunno. I have no affection for that.
I feel like you guys could add more achievements, like “win the die roll against Wheeler” or “2+ moxen played on turn 1”
Feeling like Ben had multiple opportunities to bounce Tamiyo with Karakas (especially after the Fell the Profane was cast). Like in response to the second clue being cracked. Maybe I'm missing something
I also thought this but I think he’s keeping up the Karakus for his elesh norn.
Totally agree, but after Nelly cast the Fell the Profane I thought Ben was in the clear
He could have baited it at one point and got it with the bolt, but Nelly was playing pretty tight being able to flip her in response.
Slightly annoyed at Mindstone being in with the lands but such is paper magic.
Lol @ Nelson's misspeak of "Moosebase" at 24:42
Is can-lander, a 'Proxy's are alright' format? Cant imagine being able to play otherwise...
That last game was interesting.
Yes, but what about second Battlesphere?
Or twelveses with myr?
Nelson dresses like I do now as a university professor. Ben dresses how I used to dress for work at the grocery store.
Hell Yeah Like Number 666 - The Number of Rakdos
One of these days I need you guys to sit down and explain all these deck names to me.
They very often do that at the start of the Episode. The common nomenclature seems to be "name of colour combination + signiture mechanic/creature"
@@ForeverDayGreen It doesn't super clear that up. Like why is it called teletubbies?
@@MakeVarahHappenIn that case, as Nelson explained, it's because an early printing of Myr Enforcer looks like a teletubby.
@@steveheist6426Thank you. Never knew that! When does he say that because it's not in the intro.
@@MakeVarahHappen 5:58
Oh, hey! Nelly is against someone new! Will his luck change?
I love Harold of Anguish
Ben's shirt is better, sorry Nelson. Very cool games! Real bummer that MOM never got to do anything, but great counter pay on it but Nelson
Reflection of Kiki-Jiki isn't legendary because the mirror is broken, so there's more than one reflection. :)
Im getting some light deja vu
rest in peace scatman john
I feel like ben should have bolted the shaman instead of removing the saga
Then after he could apparition the mox and kept the artifacts count low
G3 he could have karakasd tamio tons of times, but chose not to, so nelsob drew his outs
RIP Scatman John
Best part of the game when Nelly becomes Myr daddy
Maybe I'm missing something, but I feel like bouncing Tamyio to avoid the clue creation at each combat would have had a massive impact on the game
I'm sad not to see Jhoira, weatherlight captain in Nelson's list. I saw that they included red and I was like "Oh so you can run Jhoira now."
Nearly half of the cards in their deck would trigger her and cycle. I mean not exactly what the deck is going for, but the Value.
Regarding playing Not Dead After All on Kiki-Jiki and the interaction between Elesh Norn, Taimyo and Living Weapon in game 3 and not knowing what will happen rules-wise: a player can announce the play and then you can just look it up. This is still edited content. You don't have to show us the time you spent looking it up. You can edit that out. Maybe insert a funny pause screen. Yes, it will interrupt the flow of the game and the casual style. But if you want to showcase the decks and possible includes, it might be better they are played correctly.
Kewl Vid!
Help! I'm stuck in the Thowdowniverse! 😲😲😲
Is that an official proxy scrubland?
Nice Shirt Ben
Scatman John died of lung cancer in 1999.
Not reanimating myr battlesphere is a choice
Reanimating the battlesphere into face up metamorph is abit sus though dont you think?
@@800mls Block + One of the 2 bolts clears, it just presents a better gameplan than the phlage that dies again
@TreesAreGRN I dont love the reanimate phlage plan either but I think giving the Affinity player 5 artifacts for the price of one is Sus at best
@@800mls This is true, without land 4 this game wasn't going anywhere anyway
We love a top ... wink
Feels wrong to call the deck Teletubbies when you're not even playing with the teletubbies art for enforcer
nelly's shirt is a clean cool monocolor. bengineering's color is bland; it allows the pattern to pop.
there's simply too many different use-cases to determine a single best shirt.
WOOO HOOOO !
Time for tubby custard?
Let's gooooo! More Ben Ben!
Is this where we say how cute nelly is?
❤❤
*wink*😏
Sorry, Teletubbies?
I think it's the og printing of Myr Enforcer that looks a bit goofy
@@fairygoodmuller8065 Yeah - it's explained a bit into the video. But I just wanted to re-affirm it's a funny name.