I would have walked away as soon as he said, “Jesus was wrong.” A lot of false preachers, teachers, prophets are about to experience the wrath of God. Misleading His children is wrong.
writer of Hebrews tells us that He was "holy, harmless, undefiled, and separate from sinners" (Heb. 7:26, NASB). The apostle Paul boldly asserts that He "knew no sin" (2 Cor.😊
7:23 this is why the Word of God is so important. I would suggest having Bibles open in these moments so it can show where the theological issues lie in false teaching.
As Jamal Bryant saved cousin says “Come Back to Bible!” Just teach from the Word of God. So when Jesus parents lost him for a few hours and found him…. He told his mother… he was in the synagogue…..and he said I thought you knew I was about my Father’s business (paraphrasing)….. and I thought he was like 12 years old then…. So absolutely no wasted time even when you are unclear of your God assignment….Jamal Bryant needs to sit down and be very very quiet….repent and learn ……
As a Jewish man Jesus could not become a Rabbi (Teacher) until age 30. He was serving in the Temple from the age 12 through 30. He had to adhere to Jewish customs and laws through that time frame. I like Jamal, but her missed me with this one.
I'll be honest when im writing a sermon and the Holy Spirit gives a point that hits. Im litterally like "thats bars" lol. But honestly keeping the Preaching simple so that even child can understand is better than giving BIG Metaphors.
LUKE 2:41-52 even speaks of When Jesus was a child and Mary and Joseph thought he was with them and he was not and when they went back to find him. He was in the temple being about my father's business but it is nor yet time. He was never out of order
Jesus was without sin..We do know that to be true because He is the Lamb without blemish..The Bible says “He who knew no sin..became sin” so there shouldn’t even be like a thought that He probably did something in those years that wasn’t covered..Like naw then He wouldn’t have been the perfect sacrifice for us!!
Exactly like Michael the archangel cast satan out of heaven along with the angel that follow him. (Luke 10 ) ------------ 17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. They would got the boot🤣😂
At no point in Jesus’ life was He not in order. His natural life WAS part of His purpose. His life was ordained to do EACH thing He did or didn’t do. I wonder if anyone checked him on this. A seemingly profound point is never worth being heretical. Honestly, ya’ll should have been finished listening to him after he said he wanted to grow weed in church grounds. I believe this clip is older. I stopped rocking with Dr. Bryant years ago. All I can do is pray that the Lord will turn his mind to Him so he will be in LINE with God’s word.
Exactly... A profound biblical point should ALWAYS be BIBLICALLY SOUND ! ...What Jamal Bryant said... Went crashing on the rocks and fell right into the sea... For me.
Been saying it for a while now, Jamal Bryant is in the false teacher category for me. This is the same guy that said we need another type of gospel for younger people smh 🤦🏾♂️
😅😂He said THAT?! SMH🤦🏾♀️I gave my life to Christ at 5yo! I did it away from childrens church, sitting next to my then deacon father, in church church, walked to the altar on my own. Stop treating children like they are uncomprehensive. A child knows when you are sad & hurting around them when you put on a outward smile. Don't belittle the children bc at age 52 they will tell you about said moment.
What he is doing is called "Upsetting your equilibrium"....Its for shock value. This is why I don't respond to preachers outside of clear CONTEXT of Scripture....until they get to THE POINT of their message ; because ppl are always presenting some slick stuff in their messages.
Word !! I don't need my faith equilibrium upset by ANY "PREACHER" ! LIFE DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THAT !! What I need it REINFORCEMENT !! Not somebody trying to REWIRE how I believe ! And to me... THATS WHAT HE TRIES TO DO!! Make you believe something OTHER than what you've been taught !! 👎🏾
Trackstarz hit the nail right on the head ! You just said exactly what I WAS ABOUT TO TYPE !! 😂 🗣there are people who just come to church to have thr ears tickled !! And resist The Holy Spirit changing thr HEARTS !!! 🤦🏽♀
My Pastor in the middle of a visiting Pastor sermon, got up and told him that our church does not teach that and asked him to stop!! This was some years ago and the preacher went into saying that speaking in tongues is the only way to salvation........my Pastor said that he would be held accountable for who he asked to speak from God's pulpit, so he did not play about that. Needless to say that Pastor was never invited back.
At the age of 12 Jesus journeyed off from his parents. When they finally found him he said dont you know I must be about my fathers business. So when was he not doing as he was called.
When Mary and Jospeh’s thought he was lost. They found him in the temple. Jesus declared to his parents he must be about his fathers business. At the age of 12 He open the scriptures and said that the sport of God is upon him and he was anointed to preach the gospel. To say He was wrong is blasphemy.
And this is just one more thing I hate about the Church and “Christian” community.. We forget that our natural life matters.. God did not gift us with natural life for it to be consumed only with living to get back to Him in the afterlife! I believe God is quite fine with us living this natural life and going through the natural experiences that comes with living natural life.. We are spiritual being but we are having a natural experience.. Life is not all about living to “live again”.. The natural experience was Gods idea.. We exist in this natural experience because God purposes us to do so.. So long story short, Pastor Bryant is wrong.. Jesus lived the life He was supposed to live and how He was supposed to live it, as we all do!! Natural life is not a curse!!!
The devil is a liar ! I'm gonna make my point right here... I agree with what you're saying... Except... The part whr u say... "This is what you hate about Church & the Christian Community"... How can you hate the sheep when JESUS LOVED ALL HUMANS EVEN IN THR IGNORANCE.. SO MUCH SO THAT HE DIED FOR US ! thr will always be levels to this thing, the will always be "half believers" its not our job to judge or hate them... But to pray for them & continue to teach THE RIGHT THING ❤❤❤❤
Jesus is our example. If He had come out of the womb walking on water how could we relate to him? 😂 Jesus lived a “normal” life to show us that we could; and Jesus completely changed all life on earth in just three years!!! That’s such an encouragement to me! Love the podcast guys!
Jesus was in ministry at 12 when his parents found him teaching in the temple and he said to them “I am about my father’s business” his whole life was connected to the father
I have to admit I was skeptical until pausing the video to jump up and get in my bible only to discover the truth. If u open up your bible to Luke and go to chapter 3 verse 23 it explains and read past 23 and throughout chapter 4 I find the truth.❤”go back to ur bible”
Yeshua IS the order!! He followed the commandment of honoring your father. He also respected that God told men they would have to toil for what they eat after original sin.
That man is lying 😮 you need to hear what pastor Gino Jennings said ! The Bible said Jesus knew no SIN !! He need to go and sit down ASAP !! Jesus was 85 percent wrong 😮 Jesus died for our sins !! WOW !! Disgrace
The scriptures makes it very plain what he was doing as a child on up to his adulthood, Yet without sin Jesus didn't ever went against the grain. Except when the pharisees confronted him about the keeping of the sabbath. And he school them concerning the keeping of the sabbath.
“And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man” (Luke 2:52). Basically between 12 and 33 He was walking according to God’s plan… it’s in the text.
I'd have to hear the sermon in it's entirety before I make a decision... I'd REALLY like to hear HOW HE JUSTIFIES A STATEMENT LIKE THAT ! AND TRUST & BELIEVE... IF IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE WORD... I'D BE THE 1ST TO THROW TOMATOES AT HIM !!!
There’s no way one can justify such a statement, in my opinion! People can preach, where it sounds right, but yet, it’s wrong. In the last days, false prophets, teachers will arise preaching another gospel, and if it was possible, even the very elect will be deceived. We really need to be led of the Spirit of God who we listen to!
What people don't seem to know is Jesus God. God in Jesus doing the work. I think Pastor Bryant was using the wrong senerio. Saying things like I feel he's trying to make him popular😪😪
Jesus was also being pruned starting at the age of 12 for his ministry. I believe God knew it would be difficult for people to accept, believe, or understand Jesus at the age of 12.
Holy Spirit will not have you preach contrary to the WORD of God and bring people into confusion. This sounds so contradictory. You will know them by their fruit.
This man is the shepherd of many thousands of people and this was the most foolish and heretical thing I’ve ever heard! Isaiah 53:2 says He was raised as a tender plant’ with no sin who became our sin sacrifice that we exchange our ailing bodies with in the exchange on the tree in the Holy Communion, as the Blood flows from Calvary, thank you Jesus (2 Corinthians 5:21)…
He thought long and hard and made up this lie to sound deep because he don't know the Word of God ... yet a leader. Scary. God allows exposing of the inward man which In this case deprived of fundamental Truth. Popularity is a demon that deceives the masses even the very elect. Lord Help Us All.
After reading John 17, I’d like to think maybe God the Son was already doing the will of God the Father to prepare for his earthly task of saving the lost. That was THE most important task God the Son was given. After listening to the small clip, it seems that maybe Dr. Bryant was a bit off in thinking that God the Son was disobedient because we see him teaching in Luke 2 as early as 12 years old. After reviewing Luke 3, could we possibly say the “gap” between 12 to 30 existed because a way was being prepared for God the Son to come and fully immerse himself in the work that he completed as both God/man while here on earth? “Disobedient” seems to be incorrect to associate with the perfect Savior who came and completed the will of God the Father. From what I researched in Phil 2:7, Gal 4:4, and 2 Cor 8:9-God the Son did the work God the Father assigned to him: He came to earth to serve and save humanity. I dare not compare Human time and God the Father’s time. What we see in our time/life to God is merely a vapor, right? Maybe God the Son acted in his role as a carpenter to show humanity the value of work and how to live. Either way, I find it difficult to agree with Dr. Bryant and his suggestion that God the Son was disobedient.
I totally agree with you ! Learned FOLLOWERS will take the time... To open the books ! ie... The Strongs Exhaustive Concordance... The Word of God... And maybe even The Lost Books of The Bible... To GO DEEP TO REINFORCE THE WORD OF GOD & TO CORRECT A MESSENGER WHI MAY BE TEACHING ALONG THE WRONG PATH !!! IN The case if Jamal Bryant... ❤
“ Yall done got quiet.”. Yeah they should’ve been quiet and then asked you to explain and then if you kept on that same thought they needed to throw you out of the pulpit and the church. Yeshua was able to do what He did for that time and then step up and finally be prepared enough amd strong enough for the Next Stage in His Goal. Don’t let these ministers or pastors fool you into thinking wrong and trying to sound strong.💔🙏🏽🙏🏽💯💯
I live in Baltimore Maryland where Jamal Bryant is from I used to go to Bethel AME church with Reverend Reid where Jamal Bryant comes out of his pulpit and Reverend Reed literally had Elijah Muhammad come and preach in his pulpit that man don't believe in Jesus Christ that we believe in why would you put him in the pulpit💞🔥💞
Jesus was growing into his PHYSICAL manhood between the ages of 12 and after. He worked as a carpenter mostly,like his earthly father, Joseph. He was also studying in the synagogue and getting prepared for the upcoming (future) miracles, trials, drama, death etc he was going to have to experience on behalf of our nasty, filty, selfish wicked ways.
Lord have mercy! Unless we are filled with Holy Spirit and read our Bible Pastors becoming story tellers it teachers Hope elders will tell him to sit down and not teach anymore in Jesus name!!
He, JESUS, was without sin so no He was not and never disobedient in anyway. Most people in the black church worship the pastor and not God so I’m not surprised by this. Lord help us!
I guarantee they are WRITING bars for real! I’ve been a pastor for a decade and I know when I was immature with it I was definitely writing bars and then looking for Bible verses to support my bars . Instead of simply finding engaging ways to explain what is actually true in the text.
All liars got a place in the lake .. repentance is In Order. Lying on Jesus ... Blind leading the blind into a ditch. Satan lied on God in the Garden of Eden. Deceived and deceiving.... Scary
I sat in my former church and would not say amen to what was preached over the pulpit because it was not sound Biblical teaching. I moved to another church where the Pastor studies and preaches the truth from God’s Word.
Well Jesus official ministry started after he got baptized and he was still actually in the church teaching and it talks about people being astonished of his wisdom even when he was a child where did he get this much information and this much wisdom from it said he grew in statue with God and with man this was before he ever officially started his ministry with miracles and all of those things it does state that when he was a child he was able to talk on Bible points better than most of the scholars 💞🔥💞
The message and the messenger being referenced in this video (Jamel Bryant) is the perfect example of Church leaders who are digging into and/or fishing the Word of God (adding to and taking away) in error. They (Church Leaders) oftentimes don't know God and aren't walking with Him to know what He is saying accurately. The Holy spirit is our Guide. I hope the listeners who were present really go back and study scripture and ask the Lord to correct this false teaching. Out of love, I would like to say that Jamal Bryant had good intentions and was not intentionally trying to deceive the people, but it is a risky thing to do (trying to privately interpret the word and bring it modern day or whatever...) The Holy Spirit does the work when we preach Christ and Him Crucified. We don't have to be deep. Sadly, it is an Anti-Christ spirit. That spirit is subtle and deceptive. Its not gonna be showing up with horns dressed in red (not all the time lol) The church needs prayer. I pray that all who have an ear to hear let him hear, and what he/she hears is the true word of God and that it does not mis-represent our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God help us all!
If he was trying to make the point that once you're walking, everything else doesn't. He would've said that new creature in christ your past doesn't matter, and you would be ashamed. Jesus's christ isn't a good example to use.
Yahusha knew his calling from the age of 12. Luke 2:42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast. 43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it. 44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance. 45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him. 46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers. 48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? John 6:38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.
It’s called lovers of self rather than lovers versus of God. I’m going to try and say what I say in compassion. Jesus was NEVER OUT OF ORDER. God and Jesus orchestrated Jesus’ every move. He was a human in a body but He was also God in the flesh. commenters we need our full united prayer for pastors that we know are not teaching Jesus’ Bible. I say it that way because there are many unknown bibles and religions and I believe they take a little from everywhere and mix and match it. Fervent pray must be prayed for these ppl because some are misleading and some are being misled. It’s time for True repentance. Webster’s take on it is this; True Christian repentance involves a heartfelt conviction of sin, a contrition over the offense to God, a turning away from the sinful way of life, and a turning towards a God-honoring way of life. Only then will these things make a difference. But if we know someone who is following false leaders they should pray for the leader to repent but then run from that church. Some are online churches that same advice stands. These ppl are on a line that’s going to break soon. He sounds like what satan would say about Jesus. These are the lies he will whisper in our ears about Jesus. That whisper should have been taken to Jesus in prayer. Lord help the USA, but correct all of us who live sinful. If we Don’t Stand for Something, We Will Fall for Anything!
Somebody is a liar (Luke 2 ) ------------ " And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him." (Luke 2: 40) 46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. 47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers. 48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? 50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. 51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart. 52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. At the age of twelve he was already in his calling Hebrew 4:15 , God help this man to find his way before he completely looses his mind
Jesus was not a carpenter. He was the son of a carpenter. For 30 years he was preparing. He prepared so well that before he started the ministry at the Baptism of John, the Father said, This is my beloved Son...in whom i'm well pleased. Well pleased. Its because the Son only did what the Father told Him to do. He went to John to get Baptized because the Father said it was time. He was fully obedient to the Father.
It's time for an Exodus. Jesus was in the temple at 12 years old. After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions; and all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers" (Lk 2:41-47). Some people go outside the Bible and get info from Demonic influence and their carnal imagination. The word of God don't need no help from a carnal interpretation. Sad for anyone who eats this lie
Marvin should not have cosigned to Jamal's foolishness, Friend or not! That's the problem, "Christians" are so complicit when their friends are DEAD wrong and living a life of sin.
I was at New Birth when Bishop was there, RIH, and my mouth dropped when I heard Jamal was taking over. He was wrong; I am so glad I know the bible for myself because the bible states that Jesus went through what we did but DID NOT SIN Hebrews 4:15; that's why he was the perfect lamb and sacrifice. Please read your bible for yourself and don't just go believing these new so-called preachers. What he spoke was blasphemous!
I would have walked away as soon as he said, “Jesus was wrong.” A lot of false preachers, teachers, prophets are about to experience the wrath of God. Misleading His children is wrong.
At 12 Jesus was in ministry. This would be according to Luke 2:41-50. He was about His father's business....
@tpgallc you are so right about Jesus being in ministry at 12. 🙏🙏
He was showing obedience to the Heavenly Father. That's worship of obedience. Not ministry of a church.
Bro he said “ JESUS WAS OUT OF ORDER “ implying that Jesus sinned! This is blasphemy!!!
Absolutely blasphemy 💯
writer of Hebrews tells us that He was "holy, harmless, undefiled, and separate from sinners" (Heb. 7:26, NASB). The apostle Paul boldly asserts that He "knew no sin" (2 Cor.😊
7:23 this is why the Word of God is so important. I would suggest having Bibles open in these moments so it can show where the theological issues lie in false teaching.
He's been known to go out on a limb before theologically so I'd really like to hear this one...🤔
As Jamal Bryant saved cousin says “Come Back to Bible!” Just teach from the Word of God. So when Jesus parents lost him for a few hours and found him…. He told his mother… he was in the synagogue…..and he said I thought you knew I was about my Father’s business (paraphrasing)….. and I thought he was like 12 years old then…. So absolutely no wasted time even when you are unclear of your God assignment….Jamal Bryant needs to sit down and be very very quiet….repent and learn ……
He was 12 that was in Luke 2. So even in that Jesus knew his assignment and purpose
In other words Jesus was in order Pastor Jamal Needs to go back and read scripture we’re the prophecies regarding his early life out of order ?
With a due respect and in love-DON'T PARAPHRASE. That's a tool used by false prophets.
Jesus was without sin.
As a Jewish man Jesus could not become a Rabbi (Teacher) until age 30. He was serving in the Temple from the age 12 through 30. He had to adhere to Jewish customs and laws through that time frame. I like Jamal, but her missed me with this one.
I'll be honest when im writing a sermon and the Holy Spirit gives a point that hits. Im litterally like "thats bars" lol. But honestly keeping the Preaching simple so that even child can understand is better than giving BIG Metaphors.
I feel you... 🗣"Keep It Simple Stupid"...
Literally*
LUKE 2:41-52 even speaks of When Jesus was a child and Mary and Joseph thought he was with them and he was not and when they went back to find him. He was in the temple being about my father's business but it is nor yet time. He was never out of order
Jesus was without sin..We do know that to be true because He is the Lamb without blemish..The Bible says “He who knew no sin..became sin” so there shouldn’t even be like a thought that He probably did something in those years that wasn’t covered..Like naw then He wouldn’t have been the perfect sacrifice for us!!
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Thank you! I was about to type this but figured somebody had to have said it.
I would have stood and rebuked him and Marvin Sapp💯 and then they would have kicked me out🤣🤣🤣
Exactly like Michael the archangel cast satan out of heaven along with the angel that follow him.
(Luke 10 )
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17 And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name.
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
They would got the boot🤣😂
I would have said, I’m not saying amen to that and watch out now preacher.” and start praying satan out the church.
He is saying this because "he" wants to VALIDATE his 85% of SIN!!!! 🤣😅😂🤣 But the COMMENTS from the captives are gonna be epic, in this chat.
🤣 Right! LOL..
@@eddiejones5702 Correct CORRECT CORRECT!!! HE IS HIS FATHER'S SON, SATAN!!! THE PEOPLE IN NEW BIRTH ARE IDOL WORSHIPPERS!!!!
But, God said, “this is My Son in whom I am well pleased.” 🤷🏽♀️
Some preachers try so hard to sound original, they preach themselves outside of orthodoxy.
preached himself straight to hell smh
Jamal Bryant is part of the great falling away. Dude is completely out pocket. Someone in the congregation should have checked immediately.
Pastor Jamal Bryant needs to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through him while preaching.
Exactly 💯 We need to read the manual (Bible)❤
At no point in Jesus’ life was He not in order. His natural life WAS part of His purpose. His life was ordained to do EACH thing He did or didn’t do. I wonder if anyone checked him on this. A seemingly profound point is never worth being heretical. Honestly, ya’ll should have been finished listening to him after he said he wanted to grow weed in church grounds. I believe this clip is older. I stopped rocking with Dr. Bryant years ago. All I can do is pray that the Lord will turn his mind to Him so he will be in LINE with God’s word.
Exactly... A profound biblical point should ALWAYS be BIBLICALLY SOUND ! ...What Jamal Bryant said... Went crashing on the rocks and fell right into the sea... For me.
Been saying it for a while now, Jamal Bryant is in the false teacher category for me. This is the same guy that said we need another type of gospel for younger people smh 🤦🏾♂️
He has been on joke time for a long time and no one is trying to help him
😅😂He said THAT?! SMH🤦🏾♀️I gave my life to Christ at 5yo! I did it away from childrens church, sitting next to my then deacon father, in church church, walked to the altar on my own. Stop treating children like they are uncomprehensive. A child knows when you are sad & hurting around them when you put on a outward smile. Don't belittle the children bc at age 52 they will tell you about said moment.
I am about to loose my dinner.... & Vomit. Thank you for sharing this these are indeed the last days.
What he is doing is called "Upsetting your equilibrium"....Its for shock value.
This is why I don't respond to preachers outside of clear CONTEXT of Scripture....until they get to THE POINT of their message ; because ppl are always presenting some slick stuff in their messages.
Word !! I don't need my faith equilibrium upset by ANY "PREACHER" ! LIFE DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THAT !! What I need it REINFORCEMENT !! Not somebody trying to REWIRE how I believe ! And to me... THATS WHAT HE TRIES TO DO!! Make you believe something OTHER than what you've been taught !! 👎🏾
Trackstarz hit the nail right on the head ! You just said exactly what I WAS ABOUT TO TYPE !! 😂 🗣there are people who just come to church to have thr ears tickled !! And resist The Holy Spirit changing thr HEARTS !!! 🤦🏽♀
That’s a part of the problem, not being willing to protect the sheep and defend them by confronting the wolf attacking them💯
These people 😮 WILL SAY 🙏 anything nowadays 😮 because IT IS THE LAST DAY'S 😊
Word...because the Bible DOES SAY...🗣"In the last days... That IF IT WERE POSSIBLE... EVEN THEE ELECT WILL BE FOOLED.." 🤔
My Pastor in the middle of a visiting Pastor sermon, got up and told him that our church does not teach that and asked him to stop!! This was some years ago and the preacher went into saying that speaking in tongues is the only way to salvation........my Pastor said that he would be held accountable for who he asked to speak from God's pulpit, so he did not play about that. Needless to say that Pastor was never invited back.
Jesus being both God and man is the biggest phenomenon you will NEVER wrap your mind around, so dont try to.
Gino had told you several times about his cousin. When someone tells you about their family member believe them.
The historical context is very important. Thanks for pointing out the true deity of Jesus 😊.
I'm shocked that nobody at that church corrected him, the whole church remained silent 🤔🤨
At the age of 12 Jesus journeyed off from his parents. When they finally found him he said dont you know I must be about my fathers business. So when was he not doing as he was called.
Ain't this the pastor that wanted to put a CBC dispenser in the church??????Lord Jesus today,
They are still seated. So, when the father said, this is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased. Who was he talking to?
When Mary and Jospeh’s thought he was lost. They found him in the temple. Jesus declared to his parents he must be about his fathers business. At the age of 12 He open the scriptures and said that the sport of God is upon him and he was anointed to preach the gospel. To say He was wrong is blasphemy.
thanks for sharing!
It's really important to test the fruits for this reason.
Jesus moved as the Father planned. This gentleman is out of order.
Straight blasphemous!
And this is just one more thing I hate about the Church and “Christian” community.. We forget that our natural life matters.. God did not gift us with natural life for it to be consumed only with living to get back to Him in the afterlife! I believe God is quite fine with us living this natural life and going through the natural experiences that comes with living natural life.. We are spiritual being but we are having a natural experience.. Life is not all about living to “live again”.. The natural experience was Gods idea.. We exist in this natural experience because God purposes us to do so.. So long story short, Pastor Bryant is wrong.. Jesus lived the life He was supposed to live and how He was supposed to live it, as we all do!! Natural life is not a curse!!!
The devil is a liar ! I'm gonna make my point right here... I agree with what you're saying... Except... The part whr u say... "This is what you hate about Church & the Christian Community"... How can you hate the sheep when JESUS LOVED ALL HUMANS EVEN IN THR IGNORANCE..
SO MUCH SO THAT HE DIED FOR US ! thr will always be levels to this thing, the will always be "half believers" its not our job to judge or hate them... But to pray for them & continue to teach THE RIGHT THING ❤❤❤❤
Every time Jamal drops % I am over it.
Jesus is our example. If He had come out of the womb walking on water how could we relate to him? 😂 Jesus lived a “normal” life to show us that we could; and Jesus completely changed all life on earth in just three years!!! That’s such an encouragement to me!
Love the podcast guys!
🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Jesus was in ministry at 12 when his parents found him teaching in the temple and he said to them “I am about my father’s business” his whole life was connected to the father
Sane washing Jamal Bryant's preaching will explode your brain.
The devil is an liar
Jesus was God in human form on thos earth. So we cant blame him for not knowing what is feels like to b human.
I have to admit I was skeptical until pausing the video to jump up and get in my bible only to discover the truth. If u open up your bible to Luke and go to chapter 3 verse 23 it explains and read past 23 and throughout chapter 4 I find the truth.❤”go back to ur bible”
Yeshua IS the order!! He followed the commandment of honoring your father. He also respected that God told men they would have to toil for what they eat after original sin.
Thank God you men know your Bible and know the truth of God. 🙏🙏❤❤
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That man is lying 😮 you need to hear what pastor Gino Jennings said ! The Bible said Jesus knew no SIN !! He need to go and sit down ASAP !! Jesus was 85 percent wrong 😮 Jesus died for our sins !! WOW !! Disgrace
The scriptures makes it very plain what he was doing as a child on up to his adulthood, Yet without sin Jesus didn't ever went against the grain. Except when the pharisees confronted him about the keeping of the sabbath. And he school them concerning the keeping of the sabbath.
Speaking in tongues too.... gosh ... I don't know how he could say that ....how can that comes out of his mouth!!!
Competition but In error ‼️
It’s different when someone is feeding you the word of God
“And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man” (Luke 2:52). Basically between 12 and 33 He was walking according to God’s plan… it’s in the text.
Wow 😮
7:30 I love this point
I'd have to hear the sermon in it's entirety before I make a decision... I'd REALLY like to hear HOW HE JUSTIFIES A STATEMENT LIKE THAT ! AND TRUST & BELIEVE... IF IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH THE WORD... I'D BE THE 1ST TO THROW TOMATOES AT HIM !!!
There’s no way one can justify such a statement, in my opinion! People can preach, where it sounds right, but yet, it’s wrong. In the last days, false prophets, teachers will arise preaching another gospel, and if it was possible, even the very elect will be deceived. We really need to be led of the Spirit of God who we listen to!
What people don't seem to know is Jesus God. God in Jesus doing the work. I think Pastor Bryant was using the wrong senerio. Saying things like I feel he's trying to make him popular😪😪
Jesus was also being pruned starting at the age of 12 for his ministry. I believe God knew it would be difficult for people to accept, believe, or understand Jesus at the age of 12.
Marvin Sapp look like he was ready to come out of his skin😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰💞🔥💞
Holy Spirit will not have you preach contrary to the WORD of God and bring people into confusion. This sounds so contradictory. You will know them by their fruit.
This man is the shepherd of many thousands of people and this was the most foolish and heretical thing I’ve ever heard! Isaiah 53:2 says He was raised as a tender plant’ with no sin who became our sin sacrifice that we exchange our ailing bodies with in the exchange on the tree in the Holy Communion, as the Blood flows from Calvary, thank you Jesus (2 Corinthians 5:21)…
I like you thought on the Trinity! The Trinity is man made. Not too many people understand it. They are One!!! Father, Son, Holy Ghost!!!
Run Church !!!!!!!
Those folks were NOT agreeing with that Pastor.
He was trying to use jesus as a motivational or inspirational story of redemption. The proper story might have been the prodigal son
He thought long and hard and made up this lie to sound deep because he don't know the Word of God ... yet a leader. Scary. God allows exposing of the inward man which In this case deprived of fundamental Truth. Popularity is a demon that deceives the masses even the very elect. Lord Help Us All.
After reading John 17, I’d like to think maybe God the Son was already doing the will of God the Father to prepare for his earthly task of saving the lost. That was THE most important task God the Son was given.
After listening to the small clip, it seems that maybe Dr. Bryant was a bit off in thinking that God the Son was disobedient because we see him teaching in Luke 2 as early as 12 years old. After reviewing Luke 3, could we possibly say the “gap” between 12 to 30 existed because a way was being prepared for God the Son to come and fully immerse himself in the work that he completed as both God/man while here on earth? “Disobedient” seems to be incorrect to associate with the perfect Savior who came and completed the will of God the Father. From what I researched in Phil 2:7, Gal 4:4, and 2 Cor 8:9-God the Son did the work God the Father assigned to him: He came to earth to serve and save humanity. I dare not compare Human time and God the Father’s time. What we see in our time/life to God is merely a vapor, right? Maybe God the Son acted in his role as a carpenter to show humanity the value of work and how to live. Either way, I find it difficult to agree with Dr. Bryant and his suggestion that God the Son was disobedient.
I totally agree with you ! Learned FOLLOWERS will take the time... To open the books ! ie... The Strongs Exhaustive Concordance... The Word of God... And maybe even The Lost Books of The Bible... To GO DEEP TO REINFORCE THE WORD OF GOD & TO CORRECT A MESSENGER WHI MAY BE TEACHING ALONG THE WRONG PATH !!! IN The case if Jamal Bryant... ❤
“ Yall done got quiet.”. Yeah they should’ve been quiet and then asked you to explain and then if you kept on that same thought they needed to throw you out of the pulpit and the church. Yeshua was able to do what He did for that time and then step up and finally be prepared enough amd strong enough for the Next Stage in His Goal. Don’t let these ministers or pastors fool you into thinking wrong and trying to sound strong.💔🙏🏽🙏🏽💯💯
Marvin Sapp was shaking his head
Matthew 18, 15-18, 2 Timothy 2, 15-16. There is instructions on how to address the this Man in the Word
No one can say what he meant bc it was a snippet, play the entire sermon.
The trinity is exactly how you said it !
My God ....
I live in Baltimore Maryland where Jamal Bryant is from I used to go to Bethel AME church with Reverend Reid where Jamal Bryant comes out of his pulpit and Reverend Reed literally had Elijah Muhammad come and preach in his pulpit that man don't believe in Jesus Christ that we believe in why would you put him in the pulpit💞🔥💞
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Elizabeth Christ Trump
No scripture reference of Jesus’ disobedience period.
Jesus was teaching when he was thirteen years old.
Clever is not Spirit-led revelation
Jesus was growing into his PHYSICAL manhood between the ages of 12 and after. He worked as a carpenter mostly,like his earthly father, Joseph. He was also studying in the synagogue and getting prepared for the upcoming (future) miracles, trials, drama, death etc he was going to have to experience on behalf of our nasty, filty, selfish wicked ways.
Lord have mercy!
Unless we are filled with Holy Spirit and read our Bible
Pastors becoming story tellers it teachers
Hope elders will tell him to sit down and not teach anymore in Jesus name!!
That Lady is so right
At 6:15
The bible does say that "Jesus learned obedience..." Hebrews 5:8.
KJ21
And He that sent Me is with Me. The Father hath not left Me alone, for I do ALWAYS those things that please Him.”
JESUS
Correction is in order
Jesus never makes mistakes
For the most part they are attempting to explain what the insight, revelation is of what they studied. Not bars but I get what you are saying.
He, JESUS, was without sin so no He was not and never disobedient in anyway. Most people in the black church worship the pastor and not God so I’m not surprised by this. Lord help us!
I guarantee they are WRITING bars for real!
I’ve been a pastor for a decade and I know when I was immature with it I was definitely writing bars and then looking for Bible verses to support my bars . Instead of simply finding engaging ways to explain what is actually true in the text.
Lawdddddd. Why is anyone still listening to Jamal Bryant. After his marijuana foolery I stop listening to him.
All liars got a place in the lake .. repentance is In Order. Lying on Jesus ... Blind leading the blind into a ditch. Satan lied on God in the Garden of Eden. Deceived and deceiving.... Scary
Jesus never sinned...that's Bible❤❤❤
I sat in my former church and would not say amen to what was preached over the pulpit because it was not sound Biblical teaching. I moved to another church where the Pastor studies and preaches the truth from God’s Word.
Well Jesus official ministry started after he got baptized and he was still actually in the church teaching and it talks about people being astonished of his wisdom even when he was a child where did he get this much information and this much wisdom from it said he grew in statue with God and with man this was before he ever officially started his ministry with miracles and all of those things it does state that when he was a child he was able to talk on Bible points better than most of the scholars 💞🔥💞
The message and the messenger being referenced in this video (Jamel Bryant) is the perfect example of Church leaders who are digging into and/or fishing the Word of God (adding to and taking away) in error. They (Church Leaders) oftentimes don't know God and aren't walking with Him to know what He is saying accurately. The Holy spirit is our Guide. I hope the listeners who were present really go back and study scripture and ask the Lord to correct this false teaching. Out of love, I would like to say that Jamal Bryant had good intentions and was not intentionally trying to deceive the people, but it is a risky thing to do (trying to privately interpret the word and bring it modern day or whatever...) The Holy Spirit does the work when we preach Christ and Him Crucified. We don't have to be deep. Sadly, it is an Anti-Christ spirit. That spirit is subtle and deceptive. Its not gonna be showing up with horns dressed in red (not all the time lol) The church needs prayer. I pray that all who have an ear to hear let him hear, and what he/she hears is the true word of God and that it does not mis-represent our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God help us all!
If he was trying to make the point that once you're walking, everything else doesn't. He would've said that new creature in christ your past doesn't matter, and you would be ashamed. Jesus's christ isn't a good example to use.
Yahusha knew his calling from the age of 12.
Luke 2:42 And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
John 6:38For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.
How Marvin Sapp let this man do this? Can’t say I’m surprised though.
It’s called lovers of self rather than lovers versus of God.
I’m going to try and say what I say in compassion. Jesus was NEVER OUT OF ORDER. God and Jesus orchestrated Jesus’ every move. He was a human in a body but He was also God in the flesh. commenters we need our full united prayer for pastors that we know are not teaching Jesus’ Bible. I say it that way because there are many unknown bibles and religions and I believe they take a little from everywhere and mix and match it. Fervent pray must be prayed for these ppl because some are misleading and some are being misled. It’s time for True repentance. Webster’s take on it is this; True Christian repentance involves a heartfelt conviction of sin, a contrition over the offense to God, a turning away from the sinful way of life, and a turning towards a God-honoring way of life. Only then will these things make a difference. But if we know someone who is following false leaders they should pray for the leader to repent but then run from that church. Some are online churches that same advice stands. These ppl are on a line that’s going to break soon. He sounds like what satan would say about Jesus. These are the lies he will whisper in our ears about Jesus. That whisper should have been taken to Jesus in prayer. Lord help the USA, but correct all of us who live sinful.
If we Don’t Stand for Something, We Will Fall for Anything!
Somebody is a liar
(Luke 2 )
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" And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him."
(Luke 2: 40)
46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?
50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
At the age of twelve he was already in his calling
Hebrew 4:15 , God help this man to find his way before he completely looses his mind
Jesus was not a carpenter. He was the son of a carpenter. For 30 years he was preparing. He prepared so well that before he started the ministry at the Baptism of John, the Father said, This is my beloved Son...in whom i'm well pleased. Well pleased. Its because the Son only did what the Father told Him to do. He went to John to get Baptized because the Father said it was time. He was fully obedient to the Father.
It's time for an Exodus. Jesus was in the temple at 12 years old.
After three days they found him in the temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions; and all who heard him were amazed at his understanding and his answers" (Lk 2:41-47).
Some people go outside the Bible and get info from Demonic influence and their carnal imagination. The word of God don't need no help from a carnal interpretation. Sad for anyone who eats this lie
Marvin should not have cosigned to Jamal's foolishness, Friend or not! That's the problem, "Christians" are so complicit when their friends are DEAD wrong and living a life of sin.
I was at New Birth when Bishop was there, RIH, and my mouth dropped when I heard Jamal was taking over. He was wrong; I am so glad I know the bible for myself because the bible states that Jesus went through what we did but DID NOT SIN Hebrews 4:15; that's why he was the perfect lamb and sacrifice. Please read your bible for yourself and don't just go believing these new so-called preachers. What he spoke was blasphemous!