Here’s the links to the stuff! Get a 10% off your first month of therapy with my sponsor BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/bryceedwardbrown More of my Hunger Games Explained videos: ruclips.net/p/PLIDA_euIduL1FYg1f9ohWvstV53ddAdsC
Stop taking money from this unethical and shitty company. They don't care about their customers actual wellbeing, just how much money they can squeeze from them, and how much of their private and confidential medical information they can sell overseas. I find it HIGHLY unlikely you didn't know of or hear a single thing about BH's shady and wildly unethical business practices over the last ten years. If you'd done even a quick google search you would have found all of the awful shit they've done to people. Hell, there are tons of videos on this very platform about it! But you didn't do that, because you simply did not care to. Congrats dude, you got a sponsor. At the cost of losing your trust and good reputation with your subscribers. Because now we all know you value that cheque more than our health and wellbeing. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of wilful ignorance. Shame on you and do better.
@@Hesaysalot Just here to add that they've also sold their customers' data in the past, which is extra problematic, considering that they're dealing with sensitive information. Please don't accept any more sponsorships from BetterHelp. This is not a company you'd want to be associated with.
I love the dynamic between Effie and Haymitch. They definitely give off a mother-and-father vibe. Haymitch the down-to-earth father with a dark sense of humor who hits the drink every once and a while and Effie the mother the bubbly spirit who likes the fine things in life.
@@asanaquarian1302 that’s why I don’t get how people say he’s got the down to earth father vibe. Of course he cares about Katniss and Peeta, I guess in the movies he can come off more fatherly. But he’s way more of an alcoholic uncle. He can get nasty towards Katniss, not taking her seriously when she comes to him after not talking for months when she wants to talk about coin killing prim and he brings it to ‘boy problems’ and made her run away again. And after they went back to 12, completely left Katniss alone. Didn’t help her, that was greasy sae he just got lost again in his own alcoholism. I don’t blame him, that’s not what I mean. But he’s just not a father figure to me. I think the movies down play how bad his alcoholism is
itll be really interesting, since we already know the broad strokes. honestly we know as much as i ever felt we needed to for the hunger games. but this isnt the hunger games. it's not katniss's story. it's haymitch's. i wonder what we'll be exploring that hasnt already been said. what he didnt tell katniss and peeta.
I am horribly obsessed with the hunger games since its original publication and the stuff you pull out is crazy. info that I have forgotten or didn’t know, plus the production history is just crazy. Good on you for the research you put in my god
Yeah, Collins did a great job with this story. It's so well written and planned out and there is always some new perspective or thing I overlooked whenever I go back to the books. The characters, the world, the games... everything is so damn well written. I'm so amazed whenever I read the books again or watch videos about Panem.
The flowers probably would've taken me out within 5 minutes. If not those, the fluffy squirrels or the pretty butterflies. Either way I would've gotten taken out pretty quick just by being myself.
I just want to know if their edible. Like if you can kill one before it kills you, could you eat it? Or did the Capitol graft in pufferfish toxin in them?
It was mentioned in Catching fire the victor of the 25th was dead as effie only sent tapes of the living victors and the only quell they had was haymitch’s one,the 50th I know,this hurts me too
@FloorMasterKusho and in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, it's said that Dr. Gaul destroyed all records of the 10th Games except the master copy, so even if Lucy Gray was alive, they wouldn't send those games out.
rereading the books something i noticed is just *how much* distric 12 is at a disadvantage. things that give other tributes a chance, they dont have. some tributes get a bit jacked or gain some skills from working (tree climbing, fishing, swimming, tinkering, use of tools etc). but not 12, they dont start working the mines until 18, when they wont be reaped anymore, even tho historically children were deemed useful in mines for their small size (a practice only stopped for ethical reasons which we know the capitol couldnt give 2 cents about). they go to school but i dont see them benefiting from an education. is it ust to keep them busy? pretense for why they aren't working? they are extremely malnourished, there are also no additional food sources, which creates the highest incentive to buy tesseracts. the fence is placed to separate from the woods (and other foraging areas we saw in Songbird). it is only because they have become so lax with turning it on that Katniss can go into the woods and gain the skills that help her in the game. peeta is one of the lucky few of marginally better conditions. who helped in the bakery, gaining muscle, could get some decent food himself. its almost like someone (Snow) actively sabotaged 12. the question is: was that before or after haymitch became a mentor? Imagine: nobody really cared about 12 until they finally had a proper mentor, someone who cared. and someone that pissed of Snow. he would try really hard and over time every tiny thing he could use to try and help his tributes, the next year would be negated. until there is no chance at all they'll win no matter how hard he tries. it was *lucky* katniss had some skills. she was not supposed to, it was only because she broke the rules nobody cared to enforce anymore. but hear Katniss' mother say how bad it was back in her day. which would suggest an active worsening and oppressing of the people of 12, sabotaging them from the start
Exactly. When Katniss and Peeta returned to D12, Snow gradually intensified surveillance over time. Before, nobody really paid much attention to Katniss and Gale hunting. Of course, it was technically still against the law, but even the Peacekeepers bought their goods and willingly turned a blind eye. It wasn't until Katniss and Peeta returned to D12 that the measures were significantly tightened, and brutal punishments were reintroduced. Since there was no real threat from D12, the measures were gradually relaxed more and more until nobody really cared anymore. Haymitch, who had given up as a mentor, didn't pose a real threat. Katniss wasn't on anyone's radar because she hadn't played a role important enough until the start of her games. Even if Snow had always known about her rule-breaking, it would hardly have mattered to him, as she had essentially fought for herself and never aimed for rebellion. Only when she was thrust into the games and carried the other districts with her did Snow recognize the danger and ensure that nobody could come into a similar position by tightening the leash again.
Snow sabotaged D12 as soon as he became president. That much is clear from his past with Lucy Gray as this was the district she was from. After her 'betrayal' he made sure to keep D12 oppressed so that any tributes from their had little no chance of ever winning. Nobody cared for D12 as they were purposefully made the most impoverished district and so nothing was ever expected of them as they could barely keep themselves fed, their industry also being coal was the least valued for the Capitol compared to other districts. I think part of the reason why Snow punishes Haymitch for winning is because he didn't expect any victors to come from D12 not just because he saw his win with the force field as defying the capitol - which it wasn't really I genuinely believe he wanted a reason to punish him. I don't think Snow wanted anymore victors from D12 after Haymitch so by killing his family and making him become a mentor he knew that overtime it would destroy Haymitch mentally so that he lost the will to even try to mentor his tributes each year, thus putting D12 at another disadvantage for winning. I would really recommend reading The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes if you haven't as it gives a good insight to Snow's early life and how he became president and also as to why D12 was always going to always be at a disadvantage because of him.
You are right about them being malnourished in 12 and they don’t really explain it in the movie and it happens too fast to really mean anything but that actually helps Katniss in the 1st book. (That she was used to being hungry). Because when she blows up the tributes pile of food in book the tributes dont really have a way of eatting and arent used to being hungry or thirsty like they are and it weakens them since they’re not used to that and kind of gives Katniss and Peeta an advantage over them in the end. The movie doesnt really go into reason why she blows that up but in the book that is why.
Please reconsider taking future sponsorships from Better Help. It’s a scam company that sells client info and is known to hire “therapists” that are just downright awful and unprofessional.
@@tylerbaldwin3269yeah they sponsored a few of shane dawson’s videos a few years ago and it was just one of the reasons he got cancelled. if i remember rightly, the youtuber gets a percentage of the profit they make when people use their link. its wrong to profit off people wanting help:(
@@ericfurlong7642 google “betterhelp scandal” and there are dozens of articles from reputable sources describing the recent lawsuit where the company lost millions for selling client information, including the federal trade commission government website which is as reputable as it gets. There are also endless first hand accounts from users on both RUclips and TikTok. It’s really hard to avoid if you’ve done even minimal research on better help, which makes it all the more appalling when people still accept sponsorships from them.
Wow, it is an interesting fact that Haymich was the only victor reaped for 2 quarter quells. Pretty cool. As a fact, not for haymitch (even though he didn't have to do the second one)
Buttercup is the most memorable character for me, lol. Katniss' breakdown at the end of the third book when she's screaming at Buttercup just destroyed me, lol. I always get a little misty eyed thinking about it.
See, that's the part of Haymitch's story that never made sense to me; the Tribute from 1 chases him and he's running away, realizes he has gotten to the edge of the cliff, he's bleeding out and panicked, probably delirious. Tribute throws her axe at him and misses _because he collapsed_ and gets killed by the Capitol's forcefield...and somehow that is Haymitch's fault? I mean, I know the Capitol is crazy AF and the Gamemakers in particular, but Ms. Collins needs to explain why this was such a bad look for the Gamemakers that it required Haymitch be punished. Wtf did he do that made them look bad? Was there some kind of outcry in D1? Was this tribute from a well-connected family. I can see where it would make THEM look bad, because their girl was too stupid to know better than to throw an axe towards a cliff; surely all the tributes knew that the Gamemakers would have made allowances to keep tributes from ending their own lives by throwing themselves off cliffs. It just NEVER made sense to me that they killed Haymitch's whole family AND the member of another family just to get back at him for ANOTHER tribute's failed attempt to kill him. Now...if Haymitch had acted up during his Victory Tour and hadn't fallen in line with the Capitol's message, and that is what got his family killed in retaliation, THAT would make more sense, and make it obvious to Katniss that he knows what he's talking about when tells her "This ride doesn't end."
It does seem weird but I think it’s because Haymitch used the forcefield deliberately to win, he spent most of the games finding the edge to discover what was there and found out about the forcefield and saw it brings things back. Yeah he was probably delirious but he ran to that cliff deliberately to use it as a weapon, the girl from district 1 isn’t stupid for throwing the axe since she has no idea about the forcefield. Haymitch knows that the axe will bounce back and kill her. I think why it’s considered something to be punished for is because Haymitch found out something he should’ve have in the arena, pointed out a flaw with the forcefield they didn’t want people to know and used that to his advantage. He decided to use something that wasn’t intended to be a weapon. It wouldn’t seem like a big deal, but I think when the captiol looks at what Haymitch did, he’s a threat. The fact that rather than playing the games how they wanted him to, he went out deliberately to find something at the edge, and it feels like he even outsmarted the captiol by doing this as well
Haymitch was a rebel who knew they wanted to depict him as an intentional killer (like they tried to with Katniss in Catching Fire); The more they show tributes as secretly evil murderers who are just waiting for an opportunity to act, the less empathy & therefore less rebellion will come from any capitol or district citizens. But Haymitch chose to do the humane thing of refusing to try to kill his friend + held her as she died which garnered sympathy for him. Then he exploited a loophole wherein he didn't have to kill the final tribute to win, he made it so the game makers killed her. It made him/the districts look sympathetic and he knew it - he was rebellious about the games from the beginning. From the capitol's POV, it looked like a rebel fooled/beat the game makers while simultaneously garnering sympathy for the districts. They had to kill his family to show that trying to beat the capitol wasn't worth it
@@jesseli2820 since Lucy Gray didn't exist at the time the original novel was written, I don't think you can factor any feelings Snow had about D12 into the equation. That's more of a retcon.
@@chanbang378 - To extend on this... “I don’t see that it makes that much difference. They’ll still be one hundred percent as stupid as usual, so I figure my odds will be roughly the same." On the surface, this answer that Haymitch gave Flickerman comes off as him having a massive ego. For the Capitol though, this showed them (primarily President Snow) that Haymitch was a potential problem because he's clever and he knows it. In the actual game, Haymitch did prove how clever he was. His ego and lack of skills compared to careers was evident, but he was still able to survive. Him pairing with Masilee was another piece to the puzzle; Haymitch wasn't the type to team up (ego), but he did (cleverness) anyway with a girl from his own district nonetheless (potential rebellion spark). His quest to find the edge of the arena is a threat because it shows how his mind works in a battle scenario with tactics. He wants to take advantage of what the Capitol has built with the environment of the arena. Then, as stated, he fled back to edge when he was desperate to survive. Delirious, or not, he was thinking well enough to get to the point where he would have the advantage; he knew about the force field and how objects bounce back, and the D1 tribute did not. It's not just about Haymitch using the force field as a weapon when its design and purpose wasn't to be a tool used in the arena. It's about the fact that Haymitch, someone from the poorest district, was clever enough to outsmart President Snow and the Capitol in desperation. For civilians, Haymitch was brilliant and deserves all their attention as a victor. For Snow, he's a problem and needed to be punished for his acts of defiance.
Because he found a flaw in the system when he used the forcefield. They weren't supposed to know about it at all and that's why they do something to turn around other tributes when they reach the edge like the fireballs with katniss
I love Haymitch so much, he's my favorite character in the entire series. Every moment he was on screen was a good moment. I just binged the entire movie series today (including songbirds and snakes, thanks youtube for making all the other ones free lol) and I'm obsessed with him.
Sunrise on the Reaping A new prequel, titled Sunrise on the Reaping, was announced on June 6, 2024. The novel is set 24 years before The Hunger Games events, during the 50th Hunger Games won by Haymitch Abernathy, and is set to release on March 18, 2025. A film adaptation was announced by Lionsgate also on June 6, 2024, and is set to be released in theatres on November 20, 2026.
It could be argued that while Peeta was very much in love, Katniss wasn’t. I really love the quote Katniss gives to Gale where she says, (not a perfect quote) ‘if we had time and space, maybe I could feel that way’. Even as she’s like- let’s run away together. And her relationship with Peeta doesn’t actually blossom properly until after all the fighting. Because she was constantly in survival mode. Peeta was genuinely kind and helped her in times of need. Which meant she wanted to do the same. Idk. I think in the sense that these books explore real ppl vs idols, the way we see love bloom in the characters is the same.
A thought: maybe part of the reason why he gave up on mentoring could be that he realized that dying would be better than to survive and be forever stuck as the capitol’s pet …
Yep. Always has been, always will be. I highly doubt he doesn't know, BH has been exposed numerous times over the last decade. A quick google search would have told him that. But I'm willing to bet he does know and just simply does not care. Just like Anthony Padilla. Such a shame, I really liked Bryces videos.
I remember reading the limited passages of Haymitch's Games in Catching Fire when I was a kid and it became my absolute favorite Games ironically. When the movie came out I kept talking up how we were gonna see young Haymitch and little tid bits of his game and when I was in the theatre watching the train ride I was crushed. So I'm very happy Suzanne is writing a full version of his games and that Lionsgate is making a movie of it because the fan made youtube video was not enough to quarter quell me lol
Haymitch Abernathy deserved more. Due to his age, he's often mocked for being a drunkard. There's always a lot more to his characterization. People just need to dog through it.
Haymitch is a top tier character. I’ve been told I act like Katniss, and I’ve been told I act like Haymitch. I’ve heard people say *several* times, ‘I’m happy she’s under 21’
11:12 Haymitch ran INTO the cornucopia and left with a backpack of choice supplies before many tributes had even stepped off their podiums You put a lot of research into these but that is way off the mark
I enjoy your videos and i understand we gotta do what we gotta do to pay bills, but. Betterhelp isn't as great as they pay you to say they are. Please look into their dodgy behaviours. Theres a few videos out there that go into details. Not that my opinion means anything but i do think less of creators that shill betterhelp. Its peoples mental health, need to take it seriously. They do not.
Yep. But I guess it shows he's not as much of a good creator as we thought. He knows better, he just doesn't give a shit. He values that sweet sweet sponsorship money far more than he values his subscribers health and wellbeing.
Brooo it's always people doing things to survive and then the capital takes it as rebellion or trying to make them look stupid (which is aka just another way of rebelling) it's so insane
Have you heard of Titus? He was a part of the only Hunger Games with no winner. The entire Arena was Frozen, there was practically nowhere to hide, no shelter, no food, literally nothing. The capitol killed him in an Avalanche because due to the lack of food he started eating people. The few other people froze to death.
I wish they would have showed Haymitches victory in Catching Fire because in the book that is how Katniss learns about all of the other victors and what they are good at and how they won. . I think Effie and Haymitch give Katniss and Peeta every hunger games video to watch and study on tape and thats what they do on the train on their victor tour! And it kind of explains why her mom is spaced out (besides the dad dying) The moms BEST friend died in the 2nd quarter quell . . She helps Haymitch with a poison dart gun then they split up and Haymitch hears her screaming and comes back and finds her dying, she was attacked by mutt birds with sword like beaks!
You have a nice soothing voice and a consistent pace. So when I sat down to watch this while sleep deprived I was greeted with an offer I couldn't refuse. I'm sure the content after the first 5 minutes was great but that's not why I"watched" the whole video. Thank you for a very nice nap
I forgot about Portia because I haven't read the books in a while, I've only recently watched the movies. She definitely is way less important in the movies than she was in the books which sucks cause she was a pretty good character
I think my favorite piece of dialogue in the movies between Katniss and Haymitch that shows how much Haymitch wants Katniss to survive is when she’s attacking Peeta for saying he had a crush on her, and when Haymitch intervenes and she says “He made me look weak,” he says “He made you look desirable, which in your case can’t hurt. I can sell that star crossed lovers from District 12.”
Hi, I would love to see more videos about Snow theories, or snow family videos explained! I think the character deepness of him has plenty of content you haven’t explored yet!
For the people who’s don’t understand the penguinz0 hunger games symbol it’s because he was a background medic actor for district 8 in mockingjay part 2
I imagine haymitch being the crazy uncle for katniss and peetas children in the end of the book. Like if haymitch finds out that they are being bullied by other school children, haymitch takes it into his own hands. He just shows up at the bullies house and just beats up their parents and older siblings if he deems them old enough right in front of the ones tormenting his niece or nephew.
As a goose mom, I will say that they are wonderful to have. And they're sometimes trouble. So rounding them up and getting them to shut up is hard work. 😂
I have always wondered who mentored 12 before Haymitch…who got them sponsors? .there was no one. Also, I wish Suzanne Collin’s would write a book on Haymitch
Here’s the links to the stuff!
Get a 10% off your first month of therapy with my sponsor BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/bryceedwardbrown
More of my Hunger Games Explained videos:
ruclips.net/p/PLIDA_euIduL1FYg1f9ohWvstV53ddAdsC
Stop taking money from this unethical and shitty company. They don't care about their customers actual wellbeing, just how much money they can squeeze from them, and how much of their private and confidential medical information they can sell overseas.
I find it HIGHLY unlikely you didn't know of or hear a single thing about BH's shady and wildly unethical business practices over the last ten years. If you'd done even a quick google search you would have found all of the awful shit they've done to people. Hell, there are tons of videos on this very platform about it! But you didn't do that, because you simply did not care to. Congrats dude, you got a sponsor. At the cost of losing your trust and good reputation with your subscribers. Because now we all know you value that cheque more than our health and wellbeing. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of wilful ignorance. Shame on you and do better.
They are a scam and dont help anyone
@@Hesaysalot Just here to add that they've also sold their customers' data in the past, which is extra problematic, considering that they're dealing with sensitive information. Please don't accept any more sponsorships from BetterHelp. This is not a company you'd want to be associated with.
Please can you do more avatar 1 and 2 vids PLEASE?!!!???!!!!!!!!
Believe me, therapy is worth it.m👍🏻
Came for Haymitch. Stayed for Buttercup.
You what for haymitch!?
But nah, same here.
@@madamedipstick8569 lmao I didn't even think of that. Too late now
@Laggu At least you didn't come for Buttercup!
Those two are the only relatable characters in the whole series.
Greetings fellow snoot fan
I love the dynamic between Effie and Haymitch. They definitely give off a mother-and-father vibe. Haymitch the down-to-earth father with a dark sense of humor who hits the drink every once and a while and Effie the mother the bubbly spirit who likes the fine things in life.
I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t see them that way, I kind of see Haymitch as the grumpy uncle and Effie as the eccentric aunt 😭.
“Hits the drink every once in a while?”, he’s an alcoholic & can’t function without alcohol.
@@asanaquarian1302 that’s why I don’t get how people say he’s got the down to earth father vibe. Of course he cares about Katniss and Peeta, I guess in the movies he can come off more fatherly. But he’s way more of an alcoholic uncle. He can get nasty towards Katniss, not taking her seriously when she comes to him after not talking for months when she wants to talk about coin killing prim and he brings it to ‘boy problems’ and made her run away again. And after they went back to 12, completely left Katniss alone. Didn’t help her, that was greasy sae he just got lost again in his own alcoholism. I don’t blame him, that’s not what I mean. But he’s just not a father figure to me.
I think the movies down play how bad his alcoholism is
Honestly they kind of give the vibe that they could have been lovers, in another universe
i feel like you haven't watched the movies or read the books
So glad we’re getting a book about Haymitch’s games
Wait really!?
@@yu-nk8725 yes its called “the sunrise on the reaping” it’ll be out on March 2025
@@OreoooGrandeee wait i thought it was aboyt plutarch?
Nope! We get to see Haymitch’s life and his games! :)
itll be really interesting, since we already know the broad strokes. honestly we know as much as i ever felt we needed to for the hunger games.
but this isnt the hunger games. it's not katniss's story. it's haymitch's. i wonder what we'll be exploring that hasnt already been said. what he didnt tell katniss and peeta.
"If you don't let me keep the cat, you're going to be my 13th reason why 🥺"
I have no words. It took me off guard 🤣🤣
Thank you! This is the comment I was looking for!!
I am horribly obsessed with the hunger games since its original publication and the stuff you pull out is crazy. info that I have forgotten or didn’t know, plus the production history is just crazy. Good on you for the research you put in my god
Yeah, Collins did a great job with this story. It's so well written and planned out and there is always some new perspective or thing I overlooked whenever I go back to the books. The characters, the world, the games... everything is so damn well written. I'm so amazed whenever I read the books again or watch videos about Panem.
ngl if i was haymitch and i had to compete against double the tributes while being from district 12 i would give up right away
The flowers probably would've taken me out within 5 minutes. If not those, the fluffy squirrels or the pretty butterflies. Either way I would've gotten taken out pretty quick just by being myself.
i’d rather take myself out than be taken out by the man eating squirrels 😭
i wouldve eaten one of those poison berries and immediately died. these peopel are so brave like in a hunger games situation i would just kms
@@GigglingsirenI always say this. I have way too many things working against me to survive in those elements so I’m out pretty quickly 😅
@@galila7392What's wrong with eating to survive?
I would die petting those golden fluffy squirrels idgaf no one can stop me
I would audition to be one of the "Unamed" kids from district 12
I just want to know if their edible. Like if you can kill one before it kills you, could you eat it? Or did the Capitol graft in pufferfish toxin in them?
Mags won the 11th hunger games and was still living. So it's possible for the victor who won the 25th could be alive.
It was mentioned in Catching fire the victor of the 25th was dead as effie only sent tapes of the living victors and the only quell they had was haymitch’s one,the 50th
I know,this hurts me too
@@woofwuf but lucy played in the 10th, not the 25th
@FloorMasterKusho and in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, it's said that Dr. Gaul destroyed all records of the 10th Games except the master copy, so even if Lucy Gray was alive, they wouldn't send those games out.
rereading the books something i noticed is just *how much* distric 12 is at a disadvantage. things that give other tributes a chance, they dont have. some tributes get a bit jacked or gain some skills from working (tree climbing, fishing, swimming, tinkering, use of tools etc). but not 12, they dont start working the mines until 18, when they wont be reaped anymore, even tho historically children were deemed useful in mines for their small size (a practice only stopped for ethical reasons which we know the capitol couldnt give 2 cents about). they go to school but i dont see them benefiting from an education. is it ust to keep them busy? pretense for why they aren't working? they are extremely malnourished, there are also no additional food sources, which creates the highest incentive to buy tesseracts. the fence is placed to separate from the woods (and other foraging areas we saw in Songbird). it is only because they have become so lax with turning it on that Katniss can go into the woods and gain the skills that help her in the game. peeta is one of the lucky few of marginally better conditions. who helped in the bakery, gaining muscle, could get some decent food himself. its almost like someone (Snow) actively sabotaged 12. the question is: was that before or after haymitch became a mentor?
Imagine: nobody really cared about 12 until they finally had a proper mentor, someone who cared. and someone that pissed of Snow. he would try really hard and over time every tiny thing he could use to try and help his tributes, the next year would be negated. until there is no chance at all they'll win no matter how hard he tries. it was *lucky* katniss had some skills. she was not supposed to, it was only because she broke the rules nobody cared to enforce anymore. but hear Katniss' mother say how bad it was back in her day. which would suggest an active worsening and oppressing of the people of 12, sabotaging them from the start
Exactly. When Katniss and Peeta returned to D12, Snow gradually intensified surveillance over time. Before, nobody really paid much attention to Katniss and Gale hunting. Of course, it was technically still against the law, but even the Peacekeepers bought their goods and willingly turned a blind eye. It wasn't until Katniss and Peeta returned to D12 that the measures were significantly tightened, and brutal punishments were reintroduced.
Since there was no real threat from D12, the measures were gradually relaxed more and more until nobody really cared anymore. Haymitch, who had given up as a mentor, didn't pose a real threat. Katniss wasn't on anyone's radar because she hadn't played a role important enough until the start of her games. Even if Snow had always known about her rule-breaking, it would hardly have mattered to him, as she had essentially fought for herself and never aimed for rebellion.
Only when she was thrust into the games and carried the other districts with her did Snow recognize the danger and ensure that nobody could come into a similar position by tightening the leash again.
Snow sabotaged D12 as soon as he became president. That much is clear from his past with Lucy Gray as this was the district she was from. After her 'betrayal' he made sure to keep D12 oppressed so that any tributes from their had little no chance of ever winning. Nobody cared for D12 as they were purposefully made the most impoverished district and so nothing was ever expected of them as they could barely keep themselves fed, their industry also being coal was the least valued for the Capitol compared to other districts. I think part of the reason why Snow punishes Haymitch for winning is because he didn't expect any victors to come from D12 not just because he saw his win with the force field as defying the capitol - which it wasn't really I genuinely believe he wanted a reason to punish him. I don't think Snow wanted anymore victors from D12 after Haymitch so by killing his family and making him become a mentor he knew that overtime it would destroy Haymitch mentally so that he lost the will to even try to mentor his tributes each year, thus putting D12 at another disadvantage for winning. I would really recommend reading The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes if you haven't as it gives a good insight to Snow's early life and how he became president and also as to why D12 was always going to always be at a disadvantage because of him.
You are right about them being malnourished in 12 and they don’t really explain it in the movie and it happens too fast to really mean anything but that actually helps Katniss in the 1st book. (That she was used to being hungry). Because when she blows up the tributes pile of food in book the tributes dont really have a way of eatting and arent used to being hungry or thirsty like they are and it weakens them since they’re not used to that and kind of gives Katniss and Peeta an advantage over them in the end. The movie doesnt really go into reason why she blows that up but in the book that is why.
did you notice it ? or are you just repeating a thought Katniss had in the second book
And now he's getting his own book! And movie!
As he should
Please reconsider taking future sponsorships from Better Help. It’s a scam company that sells client info and is known to hire “therapists” that are just downright awful and unprofessional.
Oh actually?
@@tylerbaldwin3269yeah they sponsored a few of shane dawson’s videos a few years ago and it was just one of the reasons he got cancelled. if i remember rightly, the youtuber gets a percentage of the profit they make when people use their link. its wrong to profit off people wanting help:(
Really?
That’s a pretty big claim to make, can you site your sources?
@@ericfurlong7642 google “betterhelp scandal” and there are dozens of articles from reputable sources describing the recent lawsuit where the company lost millions for selling client information, including the federal trade commission government website which is as reputable as it gets. There are also endless first hand accounts from users on both RUclips and TikTok. It’s really hard to avoid if you’ve done even minimal research on better help, which makes it all the more appalling when people still accept sponsorships from them.
I think Cinna was new to the job when Katniss and Peeta were chosen.
Cinna chose to dress district 12 after katniss volunteered bc he was inspired by her!
i suspect he was a plant from 13 but if this is already known then ignore me i dont like dive into lore until this year 2024
He wasn't. He just shot to stardom after the 74th. He really chose her because of how inspired he was after she volunteered for her sister
@@awesumtoast97 I am talking about the 74th Games being the first year he was stylist and not whether he chose District 12 or not.
@@carolinemussallem9320 I am talking about the 74th Games being the first year he was stylist and not whether he chose District 12 or not.
I love it when people pull information from the books and fully explain movies
If Peeta had been rescued from the Quarter Quell instead of Katniss, he would have been such a pain in the ass to everyone until Katniss was rescued!
Implying she wasn't, lol.
@@imzadi83fanvids7she was. But she got the job done pretty fast by sneaking on the ship 😂
Wow, it is an interesting fact that Haymich was the only victor reaped for 2 quarter quells. Pretty cool. As a fact, not for haymitch (even though he didn't have to do the second one)
The amount of Woody Harrelsons on Bryce's thumbnails is multiplying with every upload 🫡
Do a breakdown on the werewolf from an American werewolf in London
@@Blacksmith679 I'll consider it
Wild seeing you in the comments! I just watched your breakdown of The Purge yesterday!
Buttercup is the most memorable character for me, lol. Katniss' breakdown at the end of the third book when she's screaming at Buttercup just destroyed me, lol. I always get a little misty eyed thinking about it.
im obsessed with these vids pls i need more hunger games analysis 😭
what analysis he is reiterating the story point blank and getting facts wrong here and there.
'No sister, it was a volcano.' Im sobbing😂
See, that's the part of Haymitch's story that never made sense to me; the Tribute from 1 chases him and he's running away, realizes he has gotten to the edge of the cliff, he's bleeding out and panicked, probably delirious. Tribute throws her axe at him and misses _because he collapsed_ and gets killed by the Capitol's forcefield...and somehow that is Haymitch's fault? I mean, I know the Capitol is crazy AF and the Gamemakers in particular, but Ms. Collins needs to explain why this was such a bad look for the Gamemakers that it required Haymitch be punished. Wtf did he do that made them look bad? Was there some kind of outcry in D1? Was this tribute from a well-connected family. I can see where it would make THEM look bad, because their girl was too stupid to know better than to throw an axe towards a cliff; surely all the tributes knew that the Gamemakers would have made allowances to keep tributes from ending their own lives by throwing themselves off cliffs.
It just NEVER made sense to me that they killed Haymitch's whole family AND the member of another family just to get back at him for ANOTHER tribute's failed attempt to kill him.
Now...if Haymitch had acted up during his Victory Tour and hadn't fallen in line with the Capitol's message, and that is what got his family killed in retaliation, THAT would make more sense, and make it obvious to Katniss that he knows what he's talking about when tells her "This ride doesn't end."
It does seem weird but I think it’s because Haymitch used the forcefield deliberately to win, he spent most of the games finding the edge to discover what was there and found out about the forcefield and saw it brings things back.
Yeah he was probably delirious but he ran to that cliff deliberately to use it as a weapon, the girl from district 1 isn’t stupid for throwing the axe since she has no idea about the forcefield. Haymitch knows that the axe will bounce back and kill her.
I think why it’s considered something to be punished for is because Haymitch found out something he should’ve have in the arena, pointed out a flaw with the forcefield they didn’t want people to know and used that to his advantage. He decided to use something that wasn’t intended to be a weapon. It wouldn’t seem like a big deal, but I think when the captiol looks at what Haymitch did, he’s a threat. The fact that rather than playing the games how they wanted him to, he went out deliberately to find something at the edge, and it feels like he even outsmarted the captiol by doing this as well
Haymitch was a rebel who knew they wanted to depict him as an intentional killer (like they tried to with Katniss in Catching Fire); The more they show tributes as secretly evil murderers who are just waiting for an opportunity to act, the less empathy & therefore less rebellion will come from any capitol or district citizens.
But Haymitch chose to do the humane thing of refusing to try to kill his friend + held her as she died which garnered sympathy for him. Then he exploited a loophole wherein he didn't have to kill the final tribute to win, he made it so the game makers killed her. It made him/the districts look sympathetic and he knew it - he was rebellious about the games from the beginning.
From the capitol's POV, it looked like a rebel fooled/beat the game makers while simultaneously garnering sympathy for the districts. They had to kill his family to show that trying to beat the capitol wasn't worth it
@@jesseli2820 since Lucy Gray didn't exist at the time the original novel was written, I don't think you can factor any feelings Snow had about D12 into the equation. That's more of a retcon.
@@chanbang378 - To extend on this...
“I don’t see that it makes that much difference. They’ll still be one hundred percent as stupid as usual, so I figure my odds will be roughly the same."
On the surface, this answer that Haymitch gave Flickerman comes off as him having a massive ego. For the Capitol though, this showed them (primarily President Snow) that Haymitch was a potential problem because he's clever and he knows it.
In the actual game, Haymitch did prove how clever he was. His ego and lack of skills compared to careers was evident, but he was still able to survive. Him pairing with Masilee was another piece to the puzzle; Haymitch wasn't the type to team up (ego), but he did (cleverness) anyway with a girl from his own district nonetheless (potential rebellion spark).
His quest to find the edge of the arena is a threat because it shows how his mind works in a battle scenario with tactics. He wants to take advantage of what the Capitol has built with the environment of the arena.
Then, as stated, he fled back to edge when he was desperate to survive. Delirious, or not, he was thinking well enough to get to the point where he would have the advantage; he knew about the force field and how objects bounce back, and the D1 tribute did not.
It's not just about Haymitch using the force field as a weapon when its design and purpose wasn't to be a tool used in the arena. It's about the fact that Haymitch, someone from the poorest district, was clever enough to outsmart President Snow and the Capitol in desperation.
For civilians, Haymitch was brilliant and deserves all their attention as a victor. For Snow, he's a problem and needed to be punished for his acts of defiance.
Because he found a flaw in the system when he used the forcefield. They weren't supposed to know about it at all and that's why they do something to turn around other tributes when they reach the edge like the fireballs with katniss
my vote for the next movie is definitely the 50th hunger games. Everything about it is so interesting and has so much potential!
boy do i have news for you
Book and movie in the making now 🥳🥳
I love Haymitch so much, he's my favorite character in the entire series. Every moment he was on screen was a good moment. I just binged the entire movie series today (including songbirds and snakes, thanks youtube for making all the other ones free lol) and I'm obsessed with him.
Sunrise on the Reaping
A new prequel, titled Sunrise on the Reaping, was announced on June 6, 2024. The novel is set 24 years before The Hunger Games events, during the 50th Hunger Games won by Haymitch Abernathy, and is set to release on March 18, 2025. A film adaptation was announced by Lionsgate also on June 6, 2024, and is set to be released in theatres on November 20, 2026.
It could be argued that while Peeta was very much in love, Katniss wasn’t. I really love the quote Katniss gives to Gale where she says, (not a perfect quote) ‘if we had time and space, maybe I could feel that way’. Even as she’s like- let’s run away together. And her relationship with Peeta doesn’t actually blossom properly until after all the fighting. Because she was constantly in survival mode. Peeta was genuinely kind and helped her in times of need. Which meant she wanted to do the same. Idk. I think in the sense that these books explore real ppl vs idols, the way we see love bloom in the characters is the same.
Okay but taking a nap for 15 and waking up ready to get up is a talent I’d just never doze off or I’d not wake up for a few hours.
Rubbing my hands together so nefariously rn, I’ve been WAITIN for this one 🙏🙌
I'm always happy to find out the cast had fun on set. Great video.
A thought: maybe part of the reason why he gave up on mentoring could be that he realized that dying would be better than to survive and be forever stuck as the capitol’s pet …
I'm not done with the video yet but genuinely I love how you do your videos thank you for the entertainment while I eat
Better help is still a scam
Literally. No one’s talking about it
Yep. Always has been, always will be. I highly doubt he doesn't know, BH has been exposed numerous times over the last decade. A quick google search would have told him that. But I'm willing to bet he does know and just simply does not care. Just like Anthony Padilla. Such a shame, I really liked Bryces videos.
Yeeep:/ im not gonna continue the video just for that sponsor , cant support it
Yep
Yea
I remember reading the limited passages of Haymitch's Games in Catching Fire when I was a kid and it became my absolute favorite Games ironically. When the movie came out I kept talking up how we were gonna see young Haymitch and little tid bits of his game and when I was in the theatre watching the train ride I was crushed. So I'm very happy Suzanne is writing a full version of his games and that Lionsgate is making a movie of it because the fan made youtube video was not enough to quarter quell me lol
RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman! I loved you in Titanic 😕
Top Tier Family Guy joke
Haymitch Abernathy deserved more. Due to his age, he's often mocked for being a drunkard. There's always a lot more to his characterization. People just need to dog through it.
If you think about it the first 6 years of haymich mentorship was spent losing friends that he had
Wouldn't be surprised if some of the reapings were intentionally weighted to make sure of it
Haymitch is a top tier character. I’ve been told I act like Katniss, and I’ve been told I act like Haymitch. I’ve heard people say *several* times, ‘I’m happy she’s under 21’
11:12
Haymitch ran INTO the cornucopia and left with a backpack of choice supplies before many tributes had even stepped off their podiums
You put a lot of research into these but that is way off the mark
the one time he got the number of tributes between Haymitch and Katniss/Peeta correct 😔
I want a series about all the quarter quells
I enjoy your videos and i understand we gotta do what we gotta do to pay bills, but. Betterhelp isn't as great as they pay you to say they are. Please look into their dodgy behaviours. Theres a few videos out there that go into details. Not that my opinion means anything but i do think less of creators that shill betterhelp. Its peoples mental health, need to take it seriously. They do not.
I hope there is going to be a spin off about Haymitch
*and buttercup
@@EmmaH-mi5vc i have some good news for u
The book about his hunger games comes out next march.
Hey man. I never comment. But every time it gets rough I watch your vids. They always make me feel at ease. Thanks man
Oh no..... don't be promoting better help.
Now I need a book for the first Quarter Quell because of the drama of being voted in by your own district, like wow I’d be gagged
Babe wake BryceEdwardBrown uploaded
I'm loving these The Hunger Games videos honestly
Tired of good creators taking sponsorships from Better Help when they should know better
Fr
Yep. But I guess it shows he's not as much of a good creator as we thought. He knows better, he just doesn't give a shit. He values that sweet sweet sponsorship money far more than he values his subscribers health and wellbeing.
It's business
@@g_factking that's no excuse to promote a garbage company that takes advantage and harms their customers
@@thederpypikachu9873Sure there is. Money.
Supporters Of Effie And Hamitch’s relationship
👇
Yall. Its happening. Theres a 50th hunger games book dropping!!!!
With how good the fan film was you would think they would make a series or movie for Heymitch's tragic story
Well well well
8:30 I'd be overwhelmed as well, rapid speedfire, 50 names being sent to their certain doom 😭
I would've become a cannibal in that arena
'Everything is deadly......the only thing safe to eat here is...the humans'
Brooo it's always people doing things to survive and then the capital takes it as rebellion or trying to make them look stupid (which is aka just another way of rebelling) it's so insane
Have you heard of Titus? He was a part of the only Hunger Games with no winner. The entire Arena was Frozen, there was practically nowhere to hide, no shelter, no food, literally nothing. The capitol killed him in an Avalanche because due to the lack of food he started eating people. The few other people froze to death.
Love how the music changes when you talk bout effie anfd haymitch
I wish they would have showed Haymitches victory in Catching Fire because in the book that is how Katniss learns about all of the other victors and what they are good at and how they won. . I think Effie and Haymitch give Katniss and Peeta every hunger games video to watch and study on tape and thats what they do on the train on their victor tour! And it kind of explains why her mom is spaced out (besides the dad dying) The moms BEST friend died in the 2nd quarter quell . . She helps Haymitch with a poison dart gun then they split up and Haymitch hears her screaming and comes back and finds her dying, she was attacked by mutt birds with sword like beaks!
I really enjoyed almost all of the characters. They were complex and abstract. Great actors doesn’t hurt ❤
You have a nice soothing voice and a consistent pace. So when I sat down to watch this while sleep deprived I was greeted with an offer I couldn't refuse. I'm sure the content after the first 5 minutes was great but that's not why I"watched" the whole video.
Thank you for a very nice nap
I forgot about Portia because I haven't read the books in a while, I've only recently watched the movies. She definitely is way less important in the movies than she was in the books which sucks cause she was a pretty good character
Elizabeth Banks as Effie just made the mockingjay parts really enjoyable.
I think my favorite piece of dialogue in the movies between Katniss and Haymitch that shows how much Haymitch wants Katniss to survive is when she’s attacking Peeta for saying he had a crush on her, and when Haymitch intervenes and she says “He made me look weak,” he says “He made you look desirable, which in your case can’t hurt. I can sell that star crossed lovers from District 12.”
Dude, my bff just told me new Hunger Games book summary and book art dropped and it’s Haymitch centric and I’m HERE. FOR. IT. 🤩🥳
I am so excited for the 2nd QQ book and movie, considering everything we know.
Hi Bryce, its me from the future. I have some good news for you....
well the timing of this was pretty convenient
Thanks so much. This is the vid I was looking for! Haymitch is my hero and I love everything about him. Thanks again you rock!
Its so appropriate for Haymitch to raise geese, they're menaces to society, just like his kids Katniss and Peeta.
13:15 okay the way you said it made me laugh so hard 😭😭
Him: nobody talks about Porsche I don’t know why
Also him: OK that’s enough about Porsche
NEW BOOK ANNOUNCED 😍
21:00 ALSO THAT PEETA AND MAY WERE BLONDES WITH BLUE EYESSSS
they should make a movie about haymitches hunger games and up to where the first movie starts
Cats always go to the person who gives them the most food. And, they give back love tenfold.
wow i just got this suggested and loved your style of video!
Haymitch was without a doubt my favorite character.
I’m sorry but when you said “the forty seven tributes…and haymitch” I freaking died laughing 😂
this might be the most unhinged video i have seen ever i am obsessed
Your vids are really good. I can never listen to/watch *too much* content about hunger games.
That Mainstaypro video still slaps. I cant see anyone else as Young Haymitch.
Really excited to see his movie especially hearing how beautiful his arena was
Here after the announcement 🤩🤩🤩
Same
Around 11:20 you say that haymitch runs away, I believe he first grabbed weapons then ran away to the woods if I remember correctly
You had me at Buttercup
Hi, I would love to see more videos about Snow theories, or snow family videos explained! I think the character deepness of him has plenty of content you haven’t explored yet!
This is completely unrelated to the vid but keep the beard I love it lol
So excited about this new book following him and his games
Video starts at 3:36 🤦🏻
and now we get to read about Haymitch’s games:)
For the people who’s don’t understand the penguinz0 hunger games symbol it’s because he was a background medic actor for district 8 in mockingjay part 2
Mags taking the nap as a special talent. I can relate 😭💯
You about to get some views my boy
Not the betterhelp sponsorship in the year of our lord 2024 💀
I forgot how much i liked the funny haired woman 😂 ik she's supposed to be a corporate monster, but the "THATS MAHOGANY!" is so freaking funny 😅
I imagine haymitch being the crazy uncle for katniss and peetas children in the end of the book. Like if haymitch finds out that they are being bullied by other school children, haymitch takes it into his own hands. He just shows up at the bullies house and just beats up their parents and older siblings if he deems them old enough right in front of the ones tormenting his niece or nephew.
President Snow needs better help
What's with the hate for Caesar Flickerman? He was a double agent for the rebellion.
I NEVER NOTICED BUTTERCUP 😭😭😭
As a goose mom, I will say that they are wonderful to have. And they're sometimes trouble. So rounding them up and getting them to shut up is hard work. 😂
I'M SO EXCITED FOR THE MOVIE!!! BOOK IN MARCH 2025 AND MOVIE IN NOVEMBER 2026 GUYS LETSSSSS GOOOOOO!!!
I have always wondered who mentored 12 before Haymitch…who got them sponsors? .there was no one. Also, I wish Suzanne Collin’s would write a book on Haymitch
We’re getting a book and a movie on haymitch I’m so excited
More of these please ❤
10:42 that's Berlin btw
Oh YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO