How You Should Buff Druid Spells
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- We buff the druid spells that are a bit weak. This one is for those wanna be melee druids out there.
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Flame blade: 1:02
Barkskin: 4:51
Shillelagh: 5:38
Primal Savagery: 6:45
Guardian of nature: 7:31
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I always found strange that Barkskin, the Druids Mage armor, has a lower duration AND concentration
Part of me thinks barkskin should have some kind of scaling so its viable later levels.
Edit: dammit! Why didn't i put that in the video! Aaggghh!
@@bonewizard I fully agree
How's this?
When you cast this spell using a spell slot of 3rd or higher your minimum AC increases by 1 for every spell slot level above 2nd.
9th level Barkskin for 23 AC, sounds good to me.
@@KingDooburu that seems like the best way to do it.
I think thats because they stacked, being Natural armor and Deflection(magical), so the druid would eat a charge from a wand of mage armor(likely made by your wizard), and barkskin everyone.
To answer your question about corrosive claws for Primal Savagery, consider that a centipede's "fangs" are not actually fangs, but modified forelimbs that have the ability to inject venom into the centipede's prey. Consider that male Platypuses have a claw on their feet that is also venomous.
TIL
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Don't forget the hooded pitohui. Just a touch from it does the same.
To be perfectly fair, it should've been poison damage if that's the angle they're going with.
...Well actually poison is like the worst damage type so maybe not.
Shillelagh is quite potent. It actually can be used on magic items. Moreover, it can be used by a Ranger with Druidic Warrior Fighting Style. It's like Green-Flame Blade. It's not great in hands of wizard or druid or sorcerer, but bladesinger, eldritch knight and etc? Power. Shillelagh allows your ranger to become a SAD (Single Attribute Bonus) melee build.
You are right and make some good points. In the hands of a wisdom ranger its decent. Even with that, id still stand by my change. Its basically insurance for if you do not have a magic +# weapon.
@@bonewizard since even artificer infusions won't give you a +3 weapon, maybe Shillelagh should give you +1 to attack and damage rolls at level 10. Like a weaker temporary bonus action version of artificer's weapon infusion.
@@bonewizard Flame Blade should probably be non-concentration. It's damage die could be changed to 3d10 and damage should increase by one die at every spellslot level of upcast. That's my wild guess on how to fix it. It would still be a spell attack, but if you manage to land it, it deals decent damage without burning through your spellslots at the cost of placing you in melee range. Plus you won't be able to lose concentration. Additionally, i think it would be a good idea to drop the whole blade thing and instead make it so that you can make this melee spell attack if you have an empty hand. I imagine it would look like Combustion / Great Combustion pyromancy from Dark Souls series. Plus with a bonus action, you can create a flame in your empty hand which creates bright light in 10ft radius and dim light in addition 10ft radius. Hand which holds this flame can be used to make a melee spell attack with Flame Blade as if it was empty. You can extinguish this flame by letting go of it.
Now, you can also play around an enemy which lacks darkvision if you are in darkness by summoning the flame at start of your turn, making an attack and then dropping the flame at the end of your turn. Thus, an enemy would be unable to see you and will make attacks against you with disadvantage.
Barkskin should be non-concentration and have duration of 8 hours. If you cast it with a 5th or higher level spellslot, it will make your AC 18. If with 7th or higher level spellslot, it will make your AC 20.
@@Alex-cq1zr a +2 weapon is not going bust your game at level 11.
@@bonewizard I suppose so, although i think that wisdom being used as ability modifier for attacks is already quite strong, but that's just my sense of balance for it. Considering that only you can use this buff, unlike artificer's enhanced weapons, it can be +2 or maybe even +3 without being too powerful. This kinda makes druidic warrior fighting style for ranger very powerful, since not only does it allow ranger to be a SAD build, but also automatically gives ranger +1,+2,+3 weapons with level ups.
Hilarious video, every time an Ed, Edd, n Eddy sound effect is used, an angel gets it’s wings
Just as god intended kind stranger.
Shillelagh is odd in that hit's much more useful to everyone but the druid, it can make for interesting wisdom based fighters or rangers and in theory could help some of the caster martial subclasses like valour bards but those don't really count since I don't think they have enough spare ASIs to be spending on feats to give them magic sticks. For that niche it's fine as is, but as a druid cantrip it really suffers.
Thats why primal savagery is the way to go for melee druid.
@@bonewizard Potentially thorn whip too, if you have a looser definition of melee...
@@tymekx014 It's just a really long reach weapon, obviously.
At least with bards, hexblade seems to be the level dip to get a caster-based melee attack. Much better than a feat and comes with a couple extra spells including EB.
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I know this is late for a video literally made 2 years ago, but platypuses can deliver venom through a nail (called a spur) on their back legs. So there you go, Primal Savagery is the platypus cantrip 😂
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Well, im undead. So yes but no. Also thank you so much! That means a lot.
@@bonewizard question
If you are a undead wizard does that make us your undead army?
@@berea2258 whoa hey, who said anything about being a litch?! Certainly not me. Im simply a differently alive magic user.
But sure, if people who like my videos want to call themselves that, then go for it!
Thank you Mr. Bone Wizard for another informative and hilarious video.
I always imagined druid fingers turned into scorpion tails
My way of buffing shillelagh is allow the damage dice to scale like cantrips, but you must use your action to make a special weapon attack with the staff, otherwise you don’t get the extra damage. This makes the spell have more damage at higher levels yet it doesn’t stack with things like extra attack and the blade spells. The design of the spell should be intended for Druid, not for multiclass dipping.
ya that would work
6:38 this video was made before Tasha's (one day before actually) but i think it's important to bring up the fact that: not any more! rangers can get druid cantrips through druidic warrior. you have created a SAD melee ranger
Can i just say, thank you for actually looking at the date on the video. A lot of people just don't.
This is a wonderful channel, I appreciate the work and ideas your putting out.
Omg the bit at 4:20 had me WHEEZING. Every video I have seen from you has been such an amazing blend of hilarious commentary and insightful changes that make sense and add flavor to many classes. I usually only listen to dnd videos but watching over yours is a treat seeing how fun your drawings make the delivery of the content. I really look forward to another video from you if one is in the making! Would love to hear your thoughts on warlock or monk. Even short animations from you where you draw overpowered homebrew or something!
Either way, I hope to see more content from you and will be on the lookout!
Wow that was really nice. Thank you. Its been a rough/ weird day, so reading this lifted my spirits. Thanks again.
Sappy nonsense aside, I might do how to buff warlock next actually. TBD.
Resistance needs a serious buff, such as ... You and all allies within 5 squares gain +1D4 to their next saving throw within the next minute ... no concentration required
If you recast Resistance, all remaining unused +1D4s are removed, then you and all allies within 5 squares gain +1D4 to their next saving throw within the next minute
Alternate ... Resistance, you or a touched ally gains Resistance (half damage) vs one declared damage type of your choice for the next minute ... no concentration required
I could get behind that idea. Could I use this for a video?
@@bonewizard Sure, go right aheah.
Great video! I can't wait to see what you'll put out next.
Thanks! Barbarian is up next. Still drawing art for it. Only around 120 more drawings to go!
I've been binging a lot of your videos. I love the crude animations and the Ed Edd, n Eddie sound effects. Top tier
Thank you! The animations are so crude in fact, they are not technically animations in the traditional sense. Lol
Hell ya another video. So glad i saw the reddit post for your fighter video
Nice musical choices for this video.
shileighla is also interresting to do what would usually be done by a hexblade warlock dip(mele attacks for casters or half casters)(getting it with gigant sorcerer or ranger)
Also, some criticism from a druid main: Barkskin is more for buffing someone else, not yourself. Removing concentration just made it so the druid can barkskin the whole party and literally every willing pet/npc that travels with them lol; imo barkskin is perfectly fine as written.
True, but how many many party members have ac below 16? Probably only 1 more squishy guy. And even if you were to cast it on any joe shmoe in your group, that's going to eat up spell slots. Plus the spell only lasts 1 hour. So doing that requires a resource cost, time for casting each instance, and your on fairly tight time limit. That's why I feel confidant with the changes I expressed in the video.
Also I do appreciate the constructive feedback. I do actually find it helpful. Thank you.
@@bonewizard for a second level spell that's still a lot; maybe no concentration for using on self, but would still require concentration on another creature; or maybe 3rd level slot requires no concentration. But it's your homebrew content not mine hehe and I still dig it :)
@@WGSen that's the beauty of this. You can pick and choose what to take away from these videos. The whole reason I'm making these video is to get people to talk about things that could be considered underpowered. Rather that nerfing the strong stuff, in most cases, I think its better to elevate the weaker options. That's the main take away I hope to impart onto people.
@Jonnie Kimmins how in the world did the guy with an ac of 10 live to level 11?
I have never seen anyone use Barkskin once in my 7 years of playing D&D 5e.
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Flame blade should have a neat little gimmick when if you're using a staff the staff becomes a flaming glaive that has reach! That's a fun way to buff it! In addition to boney senpai over here!
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Such a fun video. Thanks!
glad you liked it :)
I really do enjoy the idea of Flame Blade (as well as shadow blade) not being concentration. Not just for the Druid, but for other casters as well. Especially on the Eldritch Knight. I also know that E. Knight dosen't get Flame Blade normally, but i'n allowing it anways. Just let me hit things with a blade made of pure fire dammit!
I am for this. Let ys know how that goes. Would love to hear the results.
Dude when I saw this video I was shocked to see that your subscriber count is so low. You are by far one of the funniest dnd RUclipsrs I’ve seen. Your editing style is super funny. And you make a lot of really good points in this video about improvements to… Frankly shit spells. Please continue to make content, I will be watching eagerly
Thanks man. Glad you liked the video.
Cool Ideas, keep it up.
I don’t mind a lot of the Druid spells when it’s a Druid. They are a full caster that can get new spell lists every long rest, can cast rituals, and can run surveillance/combat for multiple hours of the day through wildshape only needing a short rest to get their wildshape uses back.
Now these spells typically become MUCH WORSE when put on a Ranger. Because of a few things. Less spell slots, don’t scale damage in a meaningful way, require concrete concentration to be useful, or… y’know, giving a HALF CASTER WHO CANNOT USE RITUAL SPELLS EVERY GODDAMN DRUID RITUAL IN THE GAME WHHHYYYY!?
Maybe they should be able to cast rituals spells then. Might steal this idea.
@@bonewizard it’s entirely why some of the changes Tasha made.
"Son of a birch" well played
Great video!
Thanks fellow non living wizard
It sure sounds like someone hasn't been taking Resilient Con on their druids...
A platypus has a venomous barb on its legs and that is the only animal I know that has that.
You have realy good ideas for the game, its sad it take almost 2 years for RUclips algorithm to recomend your videos
Which is funny, cuz my barbarian video is constantly making fun of youtube, and they recommended that alot lol
about shillelagh,
the description says "the wood of a club or a quarterstaff" clubs can be one handed, therefore can be dualwielded, let me dualwield 2 clubs and have both with shillelagh at the same time, in exchange of getting rid of my shield, and go full melee druid
just allow me to be stupid
It would help if spore druids and wildfire druids could access melee cantrips like Booming Blade and Green-Flame Blade easier than by taking a feat or dipping Arcana Cleric. I think UA wildfire druid may have had at least Firebolt on their list, they should really have an additional cantrip like Stars druid does, and have both Firebolt and Green-Flame Blade added to it's cantrip list. BB and GFB aren't the most thematic for Spores, but Spores could use an overhaul anyway. Best use for it might be as a multiclass with Barbarian for extra attack and rage resistance to stack with temp HP.
Platypuses are the animal that inject toxic venom with their toes
Weirdest animal ever.
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Its a gold mine that keeps on giving.
3:59 seeing even blight on this list makes the point of how bad upcating this spell is.
Don't get me wrong it isn't that bad of damage, but... If I remember correctly it's 1 target only and a svae on Constitution, so not the best
that bye at the end sounded a bit like Kobold from pack tactics.
did you ever make that resistance video?
I run shillelagh on Ranger with the Druidic Warrior fighting style (Which might not have existed when this video came out?). That way I only have to dump into Wisdom, I can use medium armor so I don't need high Dex, and I can have decent Con and/or take some feats. Its fine when you get multiple attacks. Not that I would complain about the slight damage boost at higher levels.
Ya this came out before tashas. I always wondered if wisdom ranger was any good.
@@bonewizard It's good enough I think. Level 4 right now, but if you cast shillelagh pre-combat, like every time we're about to open a door, your turn one is Hunter's Mark attack. D8 + 4 magic, D6 hunters mark, D6 Swarm Ranger. You one-clap minion style enemies.
Next level going to effectively 2D8 + 8 + 3D6 is a good jump. But it won't scale much higher after that. Maybe a + 2 club and 20 wisdom at level 8, but that's about it.
The fingernails are venomous like a platypus is what I always thought
They should have called the spell platypus savagery.
I just make all cantrips not require concentration.
Honestly... not a bad idea.
*But wat the song the Barbarian used during his self reflection*
please do this again with spores druid
For the Flame Blade spell it does 3d6 + spellcasting modifier fire damage, but how does that spellcasting modifier work for the fire genasi if your playing a martial class and don't have a spellcasting modifier.
Con or pick a mental stat when you make the character.
Could you make it so shillelagh doesn't end if you cast it again?
I wanna dual wield that shit!
you in fact CAN use shillelagh on a magic weapon
Oh, huh, i guess you can. Thats weird.
The fact that a spell called Resistance doesn't give you Resistance is a prime example of 5e not being as noob-friendly as people think it is.
See also: Bardic Inspiration. Weapon Attacks. The word "Ability".
Would you buff Vampiric Touch in basically the same way as Flame Blade? Remove the concentration, add your spellcasting modifier to the damage and give it a second attack as a bonus action if you upcast it?
Definitely remove concentration. Second attack? Probably. Depends on what level spell you spend for it.
@@bonewizard Because it also heals you for half, maybe the increased damage is enough.
@@elmsigreen ya thats probably fine
So the lore expands itself by showing another character of questionable morality. Good job pal, I also wish the Druid's spells to be better, I want to be a caster; NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE BUFFED SIRIUS BLACK.
wait who was the first character of questionable morality?
@@bonewizard I think it was the undead demi-god who keeps altering the fabric of reality to summon people and alter the very rules that control how said people grow in power.
Bark skin is too buff your allies I think becasue most of the time you can't use spells while wild shaped .
Even still bark skin would still be bad. A shocking number of druid spells are concentration. And druids really dont have a way boost AC other than this. They need it.
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your druid looks like leroy smith
Buff the feats
Flame Blade should have just been made in a similar fashion to Shadow Blade. I honestly hate that it takes your ACTION to make ONE attack, and nothing else. Also, it should probably deal 6d4 damage at 2nd level (plus the ability modifier if made like Shadow Blade) so it's in line with Shadow Blade damage and Druids have their own version for it. It could even scale like Spiritual Weapon or Spirit Shroud and increase the damage by 2d4 for every 2 spell levels above 2nd. Because otherwise, I don't think it's worth the casting.
Magic stick for monk.
Woof.
I'm pretty sure fighter would break Flame blade with metamagic because that's 15 D6 plus mod which is the same as a flame tongue Rapier at level 5
Idk if an extra attack combos with flame blade but if it does, you can just say add a bit of text on the end of the spell saying "extra attack or class/ subclass features like extra attack do not allow you attack again with this weapon"
The Shillelagh buff kinda scares me just because an At Will +3 weapon might be more than worth the weird building nonsense necessary to use it on a ranger or other actual fightin' class.
Edit: Which... funny that you go "Oh I know these buffs seem underwhelming" but.. You forget, a +1-+3 weapon also gives you buffs to Attack Rolls AS WELL as damage. The only thing saving it from becoming an EXTREMELY good cantrip in the right hands is the fact that you can't really use it with GWM or PAM... Except YOU CAN USE IT WITH PAM BECAUSE YOU CAN USE A QUARTERSTAFF.
+3 at level 17
Fair enough. Mostly just made note of it insofar as basically looping a free Magic Weapon into shilelagh turns it from a simple SAD ranger machine but one with a magic weapon on a build that might normally struggle to get those Which I think is neat and pretty strong.@@bonewizard
Conjure animals should summon 3 times as many animals
Ya and fireball should deal 69d6 fire damage.
@@bonewizard agreed
If you get damage in melee and not get damage outside of it...
Why would any PC go melee ever?
resistanblade ward is nice at high levels. It's mechanically better than the dodge action when you're concentrating on a spell
Your trolling right?
@@bonewizard nope. 100% serious. Pack tactics made a video on this after doing the math. This is because monster's attack modifiers scale a lot more than AC especially for casters which reduces the overall effectiveness of dodging whereas resistance cut damage by half regardless of level. At some point at high levels it surpasses dodge
@@smile-tl9in the cantrip resistance does none of the things you said.
@@bonewizard ...I mixed it with blade ward. My bad
Your good. I mix up stuff all the time. For about a year, I thought rogues could use a bonus action dodge. Not my finest moment haha
Im sorry but I had to ruin the 666 likes. Now other people can like the video without worrying!
You successfully warded off all the evil spirits. You gain 150xp.
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Guardian of Nature is a fantastic spell, its just more useful for rangers and moon druids is all. And Bards with magical secrets.
If you're going to use the melee combat spells the druid gets you need three things.
1. A shield
2. Half Plate Armor
3. The War Caster Feat
Yes, Druid can use all of these things and should use all of them. What's that? "But what about the metal restriction?" You ask. Figure out the theme of your druid and then figure out what magical non metal substance your half plate, shield, and scimitar are made of.
Still living wooden armor made of brambles and woven vines grown from an enchanted tree.
Magic leaves grown into an emerald like appearance as hard as diamonds.
Chitin plates as hard as steel harvested from the exoskeleton of whatever giant bug monster the party killed recently.
The soul of a slain fiend crafted into a scar shaped scimitar made of living demonic flame.
The bones of an ancient colossal beast whose corpse became the fertilizer your enchanted forest originally sprang from.
Stone plates bound together and engraved with the history of your Druidic Circle and a star map lading to each and every copy of "stonehenge" your sect built all over the world.
Enchanted fungus and giant mushrooms.
Maybe your "scimitar" is actually a macuahuitl. A long narrow wooden club shaped almost like a sword with rows of sharp obsidian chunks fixed into the two "blade" edges.
There's a hundred different things your druid weapons and armor can be made of aside from metal. If you're playing a full caster there's more than enough magic nonsense in the setting to justify using any substance to craft whatever armor set you want from the medium armor list. Druids are only bound to padded, leather, and hide armors when their players lack imagination.
Im sorry but i highly disagree with you in the whole premise of that video.
Druids are among the strongest classes in DnD and are already quite op if you ask me.
Right now i play as a Paladin6/Fighter2 character after my Wizard 8 PC died.
The Druid plays a Moon Circle Druid - He was almost as good as a caster as a Wizard and definetly puts out more dmg per round in beast shape as my paladin. Ofc i have the ridicilously high explosive damage with smite...but only for a short period. The druid can pump it out for a veeeeery long time.
I dont think the druids have to be buffed in any point at all...actually they need to be nerfed quite a bit if you ask me.
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for dropping the comment.
So judging by your take on moon druid, you have a problem with Guardian of nature and Barkskin.
Guatdian of nature lasts 1 minute. So your druid would have to take a whole turn to cast this spell and the wild shape. Thats your action and bonus action gone, a whole turn dedicating to buffing and dealing 0 damage.
And that druid could have always used barkskin. Now they can use it without losing it on the first turn. Because concentration spells that put a caster in melee is bad design.
Shillelagh almost don't need to scale because Rangers can take it. Get extra attack and it does more
cool video. But don't modify spells. Unless it's truestrike, frig truestrike.
No
@@bonewizard more videos! yesss
Oh so were fine with entire classes being rewritten, but the second someone touches a spell it's not allowed? screw that! There are some spells in the book that NO ONE would use if they weren't changed. You ever seen someone use genuinely use Witch Bolt? That's what i thought.
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nah, magic stick better
Stop playing weak druids!