i also think it was done to get some of the bigger ships out of the way to give some of the lesser known ships a fighting chance to make it past round one.
@@tachguthrie9880 really funny to see the ships i thought would be the biggest lost lmao i’m glad kawoshin won the chaos it spawned was entertaining af HHHJG
Honestly, the most surprising about ship wars is that I have yet to read news about someone getting into a physical fight and seriously harming someone else because of different opinions on a ship Like, that *has* to have happened at some point, right?
As someone who grew up in the 2000s LET ME TELL YOU BACK IN MY DAY-nono I won't do that but seriously I think the ONE fandom I was in that DIDN'T have ship wars was YuGiOh. Maybe because it was basically a BUFFET of ships. Want Puzzleshipping aka YugiXAtem? Good to go there's SO much content. Prideshipping? Ohhhh got you covered. Puppyshipping also a big one. Wishshipping aka Joey/Yugi, Heartshipping aka Ryou/Yugi, Vaseshipping which is Mana/Atem, Supportshipping which is Tea/Tristan, Deathshipping which is Ryou and Bakura which mmmmmmmhmhmhm PROBLEMATIC but go for it, there's literally so much to pick from for ships both straight, gay and lesbian there's no reason to get into fights over NTP and OTP. Like SAY your OTP is Prideshipping thanks to DSOD people WILL look at that and go "yeah that makes sense I don't like it but makes sense" or puzzleshipping people can't really knock that cause there are SO many in show moments that COULD support it even if it isn't canon,. It's just honestly a good time shipping over there. Which is rare.
Oh God I remember the HP ship wars. Not as bad as Avatar the last Airbender but still bad. I still think Harry and Hermione should've ended up together. I think that she just put Harry with Ginny to make him part of the Weasley family.
Can't believe stede and Ed were included being so new, but Crowley and aziraphale weren't. I mean, I love both ships, I'm just a bit surprised ineffable husbands wasn't here, I thought they had a big fandom.
I just got into the series recently, so before the video started, I thought, “I’m rooting for wrightworth” and then first round they go against the OLDEST SHIP ON THE LIST THAT HAS HAD DECADES OF SHIP CONTENT, MUCH OF WHICH PREDATES THE INTERNET (unless you count Johnlock which I don’t since I consider it to be specific to the bbc series Sherlock and John, separate from the og Holmes X Watson ship)
For some extra added context, the Sapphic ship version of this was going on at the same time, and us Bumbleby shippers decided to make an alliance with the NaruSasu shippers where we would support each other in our respective polls. Just like our comrades in arms, we too lost in the finals, but it was a fun fight nonetheless
I highly encourage you to check out Metal Gear Solid then. Cause let me tell you as a fan of both, one should consider it an honor to lose to Snake and Otacon. And even if Goth Solider Jock and Preppy Tragic Nerd aren't your cup of tea, Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot are pretty much the all the enemies-to-lovers goodness Drarry is.
@@soccergalz7401 Ye-hah! I'd recommend playing/watching a playthrough of MGS1 or MGS3: Snake Eater. Those are pretty much the best introductions to Metal Gear (3 is pretty much a prequel to the whole the series, concerning Big Boss's origins set during the Cold War, so no worries on spoilers). From there you can go wherever your interests take you! If you like stealth action games with a character driven story that can tonally go from goofy camp to serious, political and philosophical on a dime, I can't recommend Metal Gear Solid enough. They're such fun games.
@@MeIsDumbTrash oh it was my pleasure. If you want any fic recs I'm willing to give a few suggestions. Some stories our writers came up with are worthy of an Oscar nomination
I'm gonna say that Drarry's downfall here was JK herself. Her recent, ah, inclinations have led a lot of even the superfans to want nothing to do with her work.
@@stars4809 wlw ships are almost always the minority and almost always the same people that a war would just be like an awkward family dinner. the ven diagram between sapphic league of legends/twilight/harry potter/genshin/honkai/arknights/revue starlight/fire emblem/final fantasy/critical role/etc shippers is a circle. we’re the same like ten people
@@khrysoskarnifex3292 I'm generally on the weebier side of fandom and I find (in my personal experience anywho) more wlw shippers there than the Tumblr/Ao3 side of it Granted there's also more homophobes there but that's the give and take haha
@@mlpdisneylover How do I explain that Kaworu only appears for one chapter and has a total of 15 minutes of scenes (without the new movies) (the best 15 minutes)
I am proud how far Hannigram went. I never imagined we'd make it into the Top 20, let alone beat Johnlock and Destiel. Congrats to my fellow Fannibals. You did good.
I think it's because both the writers to Sherlock and Supernatural pissed off their own fans. 😅 Whereas Hannibal writers actively tried making Hannigram as canon as possible but kept getting censored by networks.
@@-Theo- girl. Just because somebody enjoys horror stories or likes a bad guy in a tv show doesn't mean they would still support things like that in real life. It's called fantasy for a reason. Stop shaming people for enjoying other things than you!
yeah.. I'm in the IT fandom and the huge majority of the fics or fanart are post-IT chapter 2. And if not, it's teenage reddie (usually 17-18). Reddie is just my favourite ship of all time and I think it always will be, but it's really confusing when people tend to think I'm talking about the 13 year olds when I'm actually talking about 40 year old reddie. I mean, I thought chapter 2 was just as popular?? it's choc full of popular actors.
Yup, and what are they supposed to do about it anyway? Recounting won’t do shit since the losing side will always cry “bot”. The only reason the controversy exists is because people are sore losers.
The fact the poll maker had the fucking BALLS to pit sheith and klance together in the actual lineup itself is worthy of it's own respect. I am highkey impressed.
Seeing as I am in both the Sherlock and the Marvel Fandom here's my theory: For Stucky there are other people to ship them with (for example Tony and Sam) whereas in Johnlock there aren't really any other characters to ship them with which is why I think Johnlock is more popular.
I get why people ship Steve and Tony, but at the same time it always just felt so wrong to me, like Steve knew his father, WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER THAN TONY.
I've been a SasuNaru fan since I became aware of yaoi. By the time I got married at 25, I chose my wedding colors as Blue and Orange for SasuNaru. It may be cringe, but it never dies.
As a huge ZhongChi shipper, I was shocked to see that ZhongChi had even made it into the poll, mainly because even though it's extremely popular, the ship had only existed about 2 years in comparison to the other ships that had existed for so much more time. Made me super happy though 😂 I can only imagine just how much more popular it might get in the next few years.
As a non-Zhongchi shipper, that was wildly entertaining lol. They barely even spoke to each other. And I will still never get over the fact that mihoyo rlly made Zhongli buy him marriage chopsticks, and Childe can't even use chopsticks 💀💀. A true representation of their relationship, considering how Childe apparently married the guy before he even knew his true identity. Even if it's a ship I don't like, whenever mihoyo decides to go super ham on a ship and be super obvious I always get +10 respect points for them. That's always more preferable than keeping things super vague between characters.
@@desolatedaydreams that is 100% what Childe would do lmao, but I'm betting they'll remarry solely because I know Childe wouldn't let a possible fight with a former archon slip by his grasp.
@@ettaetta439 their re-engagement party is just an all out brawl. the wedding reception is another fight, except this time with more firewater than the last, somehow. the traveler is commissioned to clean the venue afterwards for 3 primogems and a cabbage
Yeah as a huge zhongchi shipper I was surprised that it made it in the list cause compared to other shifts it's new but I was so happy that it won even if it's just 1 win a w is w in my book so 🎉🎉
Putting those Voltron ships against each other was stochastic terrorism and putting recent newcomer blackbonnet against 20-year all-time juggernaut sns was a set-up
Fun fact: There are some lines in HxH that seem to imply that Gon really is Killua’s First Crush™. There are also some lines that seem to imply that Gon used to take adult women on dates for money
I do admit that I was surprised a little at the lack of Cherik, those two were shipped for 2 decades because of the movies, and even both sets of actors who played them ship them 😆
my friend got me into xmen and was like "bro erik and charles are super gay " and I was like naaaaah I dont see it then I watched and I was like "they are so gay"
@@Wurmze It hasn’t faded on tumblr. But to be fair, a lot of the recent (3~years) of fan content is based around the comics (which are heavier on the shipping in canon) as well as the movies
If you're looking for a reason re Snotacon: Solid Snake's VA was aware of the pool and pushing Snotacon. Still proud they got to semis, as they should!
WangXian almost won, WE ALMOST WON! Good job everyone, we did our best we may not might be the winner but the fact that we all got together and voted for them is a W for the whole fandom🥺❤️
I'm not surprised by the destiel vs hannigram results, a lot of people (including ME) were bitter after the supernatural ending and it's left a bad taste in our mouth. Also hannigram is also immaculate
I was planning to finally watch Supernatural when I got smacked in the face with Destiel becoming canon for all of 5 seconds. The show still interests me so I’ll probably get to it eventually, but damn am I putting off for even longer
Hannigram walked, trying to give Destiel the chance to sprint, but in the end Destiel trips and knocks over everything in its path, but both still end up having continuous level 5 events and moments (thanks to the cons), and seemingly won’t stop trending together on tumblr from about March of 2024 onwards. Suffice to say, Hannigram won because it ate the rude and strutted its way to the shipping hall of fame (at least on Tumblr)
23:41 The thing is, Kawoshin in official licensed game can be married Yes, even with canon naughty stuff 💀 They also have commercial couple rings and the ad is using them, it’s also their color.
@@subjectverbargument9871 search it as ikari Shinji raising project Kaworu. I'm kinda ashamed of knowing that information but the Kaworu route is probably the funniest shit I've ever seen
Cackling over the Wangxian mess because I was 100% on Wangxian’s side, and I was really pleasantly surprised how far they made it. 😂 I know YOI is _huge_ and its ship(s) are extremely iconic, but Wangxian has done a _lot._ It came out of China, where the LGBTQ+ community is still pretty invisible and underground. While the laws are very unclear about LGBTQ+ in real life, it’s very clear that the media is meant to be suppressed, yet Wangxian really went and kicked danmei into high gear. Danmei and bl are huge in China, but Wangxian just seemed to make everything bigger after it got a donghua and then _again_ after it got a cdrama. That also helped spread danmei to the west, but it wasn’t _just_ that that Wangxian helped spread. MDZS was, along with _Quan Zhi Gao Shou,_ two donghua in 2018 that really introduced the international community to Chinese animation, which quickly led to a surge in growth for the donghua industry. Without them, idk if we’d see as much talk about Chinese media as we do now. Like the MDZS donghua really solidified its animation studio (BC May) as a force to be reckoned with. Now BC May is one of the best-known donghua studios out there! Plus we have more and more donghua reaching success in China and in the west these days, which is awesome, and I really do think some of that is thanks to MDZS. Plus MDZS has its donghua and cdrama adaptations, both of which were _huge_ nationally _and_ internationally, but also a manhua and audio drama adaptation, as well as the original novel. These have since been dubbed in Japanese as well, an internationalization opportunity that still feels rare and exciting every time it happens (the other two huge donghua in Japan are _Legend of Luoxiaohei_ and _Link Click,_ and MDZS is the only big danmei one out of these three). MXTX is arguably also just the biggest danmei author out there in general right now, and it’s her novels that were the first danmei to be published by a big company in English _officially._ Plus MDZS really is probably MXTX’s most popular work, and it served as (besides Genshin) a representation of her other novels as well as Chinese media overall in the poll. The fact that the _entire danmei and donghua communities_ are continuing to grow and become more mainstream and some of that is thanks to Wangxian… For me, that’s what made Wangxian so iconic. Her works helped introduce people to danmei, to cdramas, to donghua, to Chinese audio dramas, to manhua, to the actors/singers Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo, to Taobao, to Tencent, to Bilibili, to boys’ love _in_ cdramas… Hell, I hate to mention this, but Wangxian also almost _ruined_ Xiao Zhan’s life. It helped further propel him into stardom, yes, but for those in the MDZS fandom, you’re all probably aware of the fallout that shipping wars had on Xiao Zhan and in some ways on Ao3. I know that’s a rather negative thing to bring up, but it does involve the Wangxian fandom. Even with that though, things have calmed down and despite so many adaptations of Wangxian having ended, the fandom continues to go strong (the manhua was the last adaptation to end just last month-now we “only” have _The Untamed_ mobile game left (as if the novel, donghua, and audio drama didn’t count as enough food ahaha)). The English translation of MDZS is also coming to an end soon, along with the English translations for TGCF and SVSSS, but Seven Seas already has _Erha_ and _Qian Qiu_ and various Priest novels lined up for translation. Really wouldn’t have had that if MXTX’s works _hadn’t_ been popular enough for its fan translators to reach out to a company for English translation, and for MXTX’s works to prove that they are formidable enough to be successful and popular _after_ publication in the west. So at least in the west, even though MDZS definitely and obviously hasn’t reached the levels of _Star Trek_ (which was so important for building fandom in general), MDZS _has_ had a huge impact on fandom and media and Chinese fandom/media overall in the modern day. Like it really _has_ been a major stepping stone in the rise of Chinese media outside of China, which I’ll forever be grateful for. I’m a Chinese media nerd through and through, with donghua being my favourite medium out of the bunch, and I’m glad they’re becoming more mainstream! 🥺 Plus it’s just…again, the fact that Wangxian (and even Zhongchi) represent how Chinese creators-and the LGBTQ+ community-continue to create/find representation in censored media…that’s pretty big. Chinese creators can’t afford to queerbait-they can _only_ give hints like this, and stuff like the dragon-and-phoenix chopsticks of Zhongchi or the three bows marriage ceremony of Wangxian are _riskier to put in than to leave out._ There are already unconfirmed rumours that MXTX was jailed for writing gay ships, and while these are entirely unfounded rumours, the very _fact_ they exist show how Chinese creators continue to slip in gay content despite not having to. So yeah. Wangxian-and danmei and Chinese creators in general-are doing a lot, even if it’s not really as huge in the west still, and I will always appreciate them for that! 👏
@@izzya7703 ruclips.net/video/lp71DTTdSWs/видео.html ruclips.net/video/jEGmw65kt1c/видео.html ruclips.net/video/8g8_DMHdXvI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/PCF8uKjs9Zs/видео.html These can explain what happened better than I can, I'm a little fuzzy on the exact details of what went down
@@izzya7703 Im not aware of everything that happened, but basically what i know is that a NSFW fan fiction involving xiao zhan and wang yibo (not as their characters, but as themselves) got many complaints by fans who wanted to save xiao zhan's image since he was being portrayed in a feminine way and it was the reason that the chinese government blocked ao3 in china, so many of the chinese fans got mad at him for it, since now they had to find other ways to read/write fanfic, but like, xiao zhan's projects got postponed and brand deals got canceled because people were harassing him and his coworkers and he had to basically stay out of the spotlight for a few months while everything calmed down
One thing that I don't think any of the other ships had is that the voice actors for Snake and Otacon tweeted about the poll, which probably helped them a lot, ( also, please get into metal gear and Snotacon, its amazing)
Casey Mongillo, English VA of Shinji in Evangelion, was also tweeting about it, it just went unnoticed by you all it seems like. Casey always supports Kawoshin, likes fanarts of them etc. And unlike Snakes VA he was respectful about the other ship and a good sport. I don't see yall mentioning how that VA said about Kawoshin "congrats ship that I never heard of"... talk about embarrassing
I feel like I was one of the only voltron people that didn't ship klance and people used to harass me over it which didn't make me wanna ship it any more than I already non-existently did💀 edit: they would use the "cradled in arms" line against me so much like yes, Janice, I expect a group of CHILDREN at the frontlines of intergalactic WAR who are all linked to the same giant fucking magical robot to have a pretty strong bond believe it or not
I shipped Lance with a person solely based off an animatic that made me start the show, do with that what you will. no it wasn't allura I disliked her character for a while
Sad that Beiguang wouldn’t be eligible in the sapphic/yuri poll, I think they could have made it far, looking forward to that since it doesn’t get as much attention as the yaoi/gay ships
There are many reasons why. The wlw/sapphic content has been limited over the past ten years but recently there's been a big boom of wlw ships and it's gaining more popularity with each and every day. There's alot of ships with thousands of fanfics and hunderds of thousands of posts on social media sites. The main issue is we need more content and thankfully its getting better.
Yeah, wlw ships is where Genshin pretty much shines, cause Hoyo loves teasing the lesbians. Unfortunately people either hate Genshin too much or Genshin Twitter just decided to be an asshole, again, like they do everyday. Jesus, sometimes I'm glad I don't interact with this fandom very often.
@@jmd0605 yeah, it's a shame the fandom can be so terrible -most of the time- sometimes. For some reason their inner demons unleash upon seeing which legal pixels random strangers love to see kissing. And that's how it is with literally everything else, I could say "the stars are so beautiful in Genshin!" And someone will get offended and say "are you implying that Qingyun Peak is not pretty?" They'll find any reason to get pissy, I hope the fandom matures up.
I'm just so proud that Leopika got so far. That's my bickering boys! Your love is eternal! As for the final results, I really don't care, it's all harmless fun XD
When Spirk and Wangxian were up against each other, it was the longest day of my life on the internet. That's all I have to say because the highlight of that day was us getting Ngozi Ukazu (author of Check, Please!) to draw a Star Trek AU for Zimbits after not having any fresh OMGCP art since Renaissance came out
as someone who was introduced to the world of gay shipping through sasunaru i’m kinda surprised it made it this far, i mean i know the ship is still huge but i didn’t think there were that many hardcore fans who cared enough to vote for it 🤷🏾♀️.
Coley, since you haven't seen HxH I highly recommend. Shipping fuel for days, an iconic controversial clown man, a really heartfelt story and some of the best moments in anime.
With virtual polls, it's like with real ones: There are always people who vote *against* something, not for. So I'm sure some of these results are the way they are due to people that aren't fans of a particular medium or ship.
I love how both finalists are ships I know more of than the source material they come from. Actually, I’m pretty sure content from both ships were the first thing that brought my attention to the existence of said source material in the first place.
You going for a play-by-play of fandom polls whilst sounding like a jaded sports commentator is slowly becoming my favourite type of content on this channel, which seeing how you're constantly putting out bangers is saying something. Yes, please to the sapphic showdown coverage. :D (Despite having 0 evidence to back up that claim I'm also willing to bet botting did happen, but I'm personally finding this funny more than anything else.)
Looking back on this and being a part of both the Spn (long time) and Hannibal (more recently) fandoms, makes it so much more funny that two of the actual canon ships on the duke out had to face each other. And honestly, Hannigram has been waiting nearly 10 years for more content by creators besides cons, so honestly, good for Hannigram. They slayed (in all the possible connotations) and good for them. Glad to see both shows existing in trending on Tumblr since March this year and they haven’t really stopped. They’re not allowed to die, just like their characters.
I was around for the ending of the H*talia ship/flame wars. I remember Victuuri becoming canon. I was there when Rise of Skywalker was announced. I watched Voltron when it first came out. I panicked as my tumblr crashed when Destiel became canon in the Spanish dub. I cosplayed Overhaul to a con before COVID hit. I voted in the Tumblr Sexyman Poll. I have seen it all.
Ooooh this was so fun to watch. The lack of AshEiji, JayVik, and JaskierxGeralt was honestly surprising. (And yes, PLEASE share your Klance recs. I’d love to add more to my collection).
good god shipping wars. i do not miss those days one bit. shipping is like a fun little exercise, explore the characters, maybe make a bit of content, the end. it doesn't need to be more than that pls
The shipping wars of shows that already ended are interesting, you see why people like the result of cannon, and why some want the end game be another. I'm still on the front against amethyst ocean shippers. They are stubborn to an almost admirable degree.
I feel like Coley would really enjoy HxH and the ships in it honestly, idk why but I can totally see her getting really into Leopika, like they're kind of enemies to lovers but done in a really wholesome way
LOL wild seeing my own tweets read out here 😭😭 thank you for covering this!! It went hectic towards the end, but it was so much fun, i'm glad to see it covered!! #KAWOSHINSWEEP
SNOTACON IS WHERE "DO YOU THINK LOVE CAN BLOOM EVEN ON A BATTLEFIELD?" COMES FROM. NEVER FORGET THE GREAT SNOTACON SWEEP OF 2022. WE WERE SO CLOSE, MGS FANDOM. WE'LL GET EM NEXT TIME.
As someone there when the poll was running, it was really funny seeing most of Gundam Twitter pile on to supporting Leopika as a form of vengeance for Char and Amuro
sapphic showdown! i would love that! i don't have many sapphic ships personally but i would love to see other people's opinions on ships (and maybe find some new content with popular wlw ships)
I get the whole, "there are too many iconic yaoi ships to put on here" thing from the beginning, but I was SHOCKED to see that soukoku (aka Dazai x Chuuya from bsd) didn't make it on here. I'm not even a huge fan of them personally (don't hate them tho), but like...bro...I was seeing screenshots and shit for them LONG before I watched bsd, and they are really iconic imo. There's so much going on with them, like how did they not...? It's confusing.
Puzzleshipping is ONE OF the most iconic yaoi ships you can't convince me otherwise. I'm surprised it wasn't here. Oh and Destiel. And Soriku is up there too. In fact ngl those three ships opened my eyes TO gay ships and shipping in general even if I still have weird feelings about shipping cause the internet can be absolutely the worst- STOP BLOWING HOLES IN PEOPLE'S SHIPS!
the fact that soriku got knocked out by hunterxhunter of all things is a crime. and yugioh ship fics is still the standard i judge all current fandom ship fics by
I don’t have Twitter but I’d love to see the results of an all MXTX-verse poll and also the fallout of a Battle of the Problematic Ships poll. Reylo vs Sebaciel. FIGHT!
After watching a Kawoshin compilation of pretty gay *official* representation of the characters, I totally understand why Kawoshin won and/or deserves the title of "most iconic gay ship". They're (quasi-)canon!
As a more recent fannibal, and a long time Destiel shipper, I’ve come to realize that while Hannigram strutted so Destiel could try and run, Destiel took 5 steps and face planted, allowing Hannigram to get back up and continue to strut - reminding tumblr how a polite fandom and canon ship acts.
(some /Mild/ spoilers) Snotacon (Snake x Otacon, yes, like the convention) is a really great ship. It features Otacon, a nerdy scientist who's sad bc his inventions are being used to kill, just as his fathers' and grandfathers' inventions were used to kill. And Snake, who is literally a clone and brainwashed into being a supersoldier, and is sad bc he's being used to kill. They first meet when Snake stops a malfunctioning cybrog ninja from killing Otacon. No, Im not joking. Very iconic shit right here :3c they later adopt a daughter together
I ship Kawoshin with my life. And honestly I was expecting to lose round 1, I can't believe we won. Like, what? Really? I'm happy but just shocked. In my own experience, Kawoshin gets really ignored. In NGE, there's always Shinji x Rei vs. Shinji x Asuka discussion; but I don't see that much Kawoshin. And there are barely any fics. Compared to Narusasu, they have like 12k fics in AO3 and we don't even make it to 1.5k. That's why I'm so surprised. Am I missing something? And also... does anyone have recs? lol
Now that you mention it, I don't remember seeing that many fics on AO3... This ship has tons of doujins, fanarts, official arts & advertisements and YT videos though.
@@rana_con_sombrerowright7238 kawoshin doesn't exactly lack for content, but unless you happen to have a vested interest in the ship it's pretty much buried under the sheer amount of merchandise, advertisement, and general discourse surrounding rei and asuka, both of whom also happen to be the main love interests of the show
I had the same confusion as you: I adore Kawoshin because Shinji deserves good things after all the depressing shit he's gone through (plus...the chemistry is definitely there and it is so sweet)! Still, I didn't know that it was such a juggernaut in the MLM scene that it won the wholeass poll. I came in expecting the exact same round 1 loss 😭
Never realized how different the big fandoms on Twitter and Tumblr are this days, like the Tumblr awards thing has mostly completely different ships on the slash category
My WrightWorth heart was a bit disappointed to see them lose so quickly, but oh well, they were against perhaps one of the most defining mlm ships to like, ever exist here in the west, so it wasn't much of a competition. Destiel losing to Hannigram, though...I've never seen either of the shows but I was legitimately shocked and am a bit convinced that we are in the dark timeline. It's just TOO iconic of a ship to go down that quick, ya know?
I know it’s late to say, but Hannigram strutted and slayed so Destiel could have the chance to run, but ended up falling over face first before the first lap was over. (Plus, while both the Spn and Hannibal cast and creators have a genuine care for the characters, the Hannibal cast and creators never mocked or treated fans who enjoyed the ship poorly. Hell Bryan fuller and the cast realized the ship made sense and encouraged and canonized it fully in the end. Plus, Hannibal has been getting a giant resurgence recently, and really has had a more vocal but respectful fan base, so I’m guessing that’s why it won). Again, I know it’s late but seeing my two beloved ships go head to head makes me cackle but also feral.
I was honestly shocked at how far leopika made it, i thought it'd lose first round... especially since the 99 ver is so much gayer and not that many people have seen it. Maybe its because hxh is coming back? I'm glad tho i love them
probably because drarry is more iconic even though wolfstar is hugely popular in hp fandom _and_ the marauders subfandom, and thus independant of the golden trio era fics, it appears that the poll creator did not want to put in competition 2 ships from the same fandom but considering the very high popularity of wolfstar and the marauders last years, i wonder what the results would have been
@@nouspartimes keep in mind. Wolfstar is more iconic for their sheer power of CREATING a fandom of itself (the Marauders fandom) Without Wolfstar, there is no Marauders fandom- because it all sprang from Wolfstar shippers seeking out the younger years to make their ship canon. I'd say it holds more power especially since the Marauders fandom had become so prominent in the last few years.
As a huge genshin fan the fact that not only is genshin getting taken out of future polls but it's so bad that the word was censored is both sad and extremely funny to me. (Also helll yeah Sapphic poll pls)
merthur deserve better,,,, cuz one of them literally dead while the other STILL ALIVE AND WAITING FOR THE OTHER TO COME BACK... that kind of angst what makes the fandom linger this long
You know, since blackbonnet is here Im surprised that ineffable husbands isin’t, since they share such close fandoms and are both canon. In fact I would argue that Good Omens has a bigger fanbase then OFMD so its just weird.
13:45 I recently finished watching all of Merlin, and for some reason I thought it was this awesome thing that NOBODY else had heard of, so when I saw this I was like: Oh my god, other people watch this?!?!? lol
Most of these ships were really strategically placed to cause as much discourse as possible, and I respect OP so much for that
i also think it was done to get some of the bigger ships out of the way to give some of the lesser known ships a fighting chance to make it past round one.
It reminds me of a writer hunched over their laptop laughing maniacally as they write a character’s death again😭
I read this right as Coley got to Sheith vs Klance and you are so right
@@tachguthrie9880 really funny to see the ships i thought would be the biggest lost lmao i’m glad kawoshin won the chaos it spawned was entertaining af HHHJG
literally the 1k quote tweets on bakudeku v lawlight
destiel losing the first round is both unheard of and hilarious
It blows my mind that the number 1 ship on AO3 got knocked out on the first round
What can I say, the fandom really dried up after superhell
honestly i blame the show going down the ditch for this
I was so shocked when I saw Destiel losing right at the beginning. What has this world come to? 😂
Hannigram has more flavor kekeke
This is like a old war veteran telling there war stories, but it’s coley talking about ships- 😂
yeah except the latter subject is far more dangerous
Their*
ship war stories lmao
Honestly, the most surprising about ship wars is that I have yet to read news about someone getting into a physical fight and seriously harming someone else because of different opinions on a ship
Like, that *has* to have happened at some point, right?
As someone who grew up in the 2000s LET ME TELL YOU BACK IN MY DAY-nono I won't do that but seriously I think the ONE fandom I was in that DIDN'T have ship wars was YuGiOh.
Maybe because it was basically a BUFFET of ships. Want Puzzleshipping aka YugiXAtem? Good to go there's SO much content. Prideshipping? Ohhhh got you covered. Puppyshipping also a big one. Wishshipping aka Joey/Yugi, Heartshipping aka Ryou/Yugi, Vaseshipping which is Mana/Atem, Supportshipping which is Tea/Tristan, Deathshipping which is Ryou and Bakura which mmmmmmmhmhmhm PROBLEMATIC but go for it, there's literally so much to pick from for ships both straight, gay and lesbian there's no reason to get into fights over NTP and OTP. Like SAY your OTP is Prideshipping thanks to DSOD people WILL look at that and go "yeah that makes sense I don't like it but makes sense" or puzzleshipping people can't really knock that cause there are SO many in show moments that COULD support it even if it isn't canon,. It's just honestly a good time shipping over there. Which is rare.
Coley: Was there foul play involved?
Me: Now would it even be a fandom poll if there WASN'T foul play involved????
true
True if you aren't botting ur favorite sexy man or ship then are you really living?
@@antidave honestly at a certain point those votes should count for the effort they're putting in lmao
@@Sp1derBedo true
As someone who was present for the original Naruto, Inu Yasha, and HP shipping wars, I can tell you that nothing has changed.
Oh God I remember the HP ship wars. Not as bad as Avatar the last Airbender but still bad. I still think Harry and Hermione should've ended up together. I think that she just put Harry with Ginny to make him part of the Weasley family.
It's comforting in a way.
Fandom is a circle no matter what year it is
@@TheRibottoStudios:
No, she wanted ron and Hermione together from the very beginning and wasn't willing to change it because toxic.
@@confusedwhale
doesn't like people invading her...terf?
someone said lawlight vs bkdk is just foot fetish vs hand fetish which is the funniest thing ever
LMAOFSJADOAGLDSK
HELP HAHSHSSJ
True
WHAT 😭😭😭😭
BRO ITS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND YOU HAVE ME DYING 😭
That wangxian vs victuuri poll was EVIL omg
Ikr😭
IKRR
literally pure evil omf
YEAH BRO OHMYGOD
How can you choose between these two it’s impossible, it’s evil😢
“But did yuri katsuki shove a sword up his a*s?” HAD ME DYING AS SOMEONE WHO ALSO LOVES BOTH THESE SHIPS
SAME LMAO
Sorry, Yuri, but nobody can be as wild as our Wei Ying. 😂
@@outofthisworld93 LMAO 😂
SAMEE
read this comment before watching the video and immediately went "wangxian?"
Can't believe stede and Ed were included being so new, but Crowley and aziraphale weren't. I mean, I love both ships, I'm just a bit surprised ineffable husbands wasn't here, I thought they had a big fandom.
the good omens fandom is very big but we mostly keep to ourselves unless theres something big happening
@@s1ren_exe maybe is for the best
@@s1ren_exe a wise desition.
Been spared of the pitchforks
lol I think cuz its canon they werent even considered cuz theres no rival ships (only idea I have as to why)
the fact that wrightworth didnt even make it past the first round makes my gay lawyer hyperfixated heart hurt
Same here. :(
I just got into the series recently, so before the video started, I thought, “I’m rooting for wrightworth” and then first round they go against the OLDEST SHIP ON THE LIST THAT HAS HAD DECADES OF SHIP CONTENT, MUCH OF WHICH PREDATES THE INTERNET (unless you count Johnlock which I don’t since I consider it to be specific to the bbc series Sherlock and John, separate from the og Holmes X Watson ship)
@@maplepainttube8158 same, I'm honestly just impressed they managed to go 50-50 with spirk. that counts as a win in my book.
Same
I also got into the series recently 😭😭 you are not alone on that feeling
For some extra added context, the Sapphic ship version of this was going on at the same time, and us Bumbleby shippers decided to make an alliance with the NaruSasu shippers where we would support each other in our respective polls. Just like our comrades in arms, we too lost in the finals, but it was a fun fight nonetheless
This is some tactical level stuff wow
This is actually made me laugh. Like this is some tactical war shit right here. I have never been happier to be in a shipping fandom.
And you lost to MaryRose, which I mean, had a canon wedding-
Drarry being marked as less iconic than a ship I've never even vaguely heard of is a declaration of war
I highly encourage you to check out Metal Gear Solid then.
Cause let me tell you as a fan of both, one should consider it an honor to lose to Snake and Otacon.
And even if Goth Solider Jock and Preppy Tragic Nerd aren't your cup of tea, Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot are pretty much the all the enemies-to-lovers goodness Drarry is.
@@ohwowitsthatguy9154 oh awesome I'd love to check it out!
@@soccergalz7401 Ye-hah! I'd recommend playing/watching a playthrough of MGS1 or MGS3: Snake Eater. Those are pretty much the best introductions to Metal Gear (3 is pretty much a prequel to the whole the series, concerning Big Boss's origins set during the Cold War, so no worries on spoilers). From there you can go wherever your interests take you!
If you like stealth action games with a character driven story that can tonally go from goofy camp to serious, political and philosophical on a dime, I can't recommend Metal Gear Solid enough. They're such fun games.
Well one ship believes that love can bloom even on the battlefield. And the other is drarry. Lol
LET ME TELL YOU metal gear solid is amazing and snake and otacon are actually canon
FINALLY! Merthur being mentioned for more than 5 seconds.
Do we all agree she should make a video about it?
@Bully peter don't
kajskdkf legit i honeatly thought the fandom died long ago happy to see people remember it :')
@@MeIsDumbTrash oh no, not at all! It's actually very active, especially on Tumblr and AO3, but other socials as well like til tok and Instagram.
@@elenacottica386 oh damn ive been looking in tje wrong places ty for lettimg me know
@@MeIsDumbTrash oh it was my pleasure. If you want any fic recs I'm willing to give a few suggestions. Some stories our writers came up with are worthy of an Oscar nomination
I'm gonna say that Drarry's downfall here was JK herself. Her recent, ah, inclinations have led a lot of even the superfans to want nothing to do with her work.
Omg this is facts…. Honestly I wish she just didn’t say anything jiboafoiburaihbo ☹️☹️
Yeeeeaahhhhhhhhh....JK really stay taking these L's loudly and without shame.
same I hate that I couldn't look at HP series the same way again cuz I'm reminded of JK Rowling herself.
absolutely facts
i also definitely think there may have been spite voting from Dramione and Harmonie shippers.
As a sapphic, I am unhealthly invested in this vid. I've learned way beyond what I needed to know about the history of popular mlm ships.
Same
Same here lmao
That said as a fellow sapphic I'm hoping for the wlw war haha
@@stars4809 wlw ships are almost always the minority and almost always the same people that a war would just be like an awkward family dinner.
the ven diagram between sapphic league of legends/twilight/harry potter/genshin/honkai/arknights/revue starlight/fire emblem/final fantasy/critical role/etc shippers is a circle. we’re the same like ten people
@@khrysoskarnifex3292 I'm generally on the weebier side of fandom and I find (in my personal experience anywho) more wlw shippers there than the Tumblr/Ao3 side of it
Granted there's also more homophobes there but that's the give and take haha
Kinda sad Wrightworth didn't survive trough the first round, but well, hard to win against the legendary ship.
I wonder why it's not called EdgeWright?
I’ve heard it more often called Narumitsu
@@fluffernutter6512 yeah, i've always known it as narumitsu for their japanese names
same..
@@fluffernutter6512 same, i was very confused at first until my brain just went slllorughhgjfhghhfhg and functioned correctly
i havent even seen a single episode of evangelion and I was rooting for kawoshin for the entire time that goes to show just how iconic it is
WATCH IT PLEASE
@@elysianet not even going to warn them about the depression???
yessss They changed my life.
I’m still pushing through Evangelion (I take breaks between the episodes now lol), yet I haven’t gotten to the KawoShin arc yet...
@@mlpdisneylover How do I explain that Kaworu only appears for one chapter and has a total of 15 minutes of scenes (without the new movies)
(the best 15 minutes)
I am proud how far Hannigram went. I never imagined we'd make it into the Top 20, let alone beat Johnlock and Destiel. Congrats to my fellow Fannibals. You did good.
I think it's because both the writers to Sherlock and Supernatural pissed off their own fans. 😅 Whereas Hannibal writers actively tried making Hannigram as canon as possible but kept getting censored by networks.
Long live Hannigram!!
The Hannibal fandom is sooo active still! 5 new fics literally everyday on AO3. I love ittt
How can you watch a show like that and not be disgusted. Even hearing the name makes me hurl
@@-Theo- girl. Just because somebody enjoys horror stories or likes a bad guy in a tv show doesn't mean they would still support things like that in real life. It's called fantasy for a reason. Stop shaming people for enjoying other things than you!
I can't believe Destiel got sent to superhell again. Also, there is an entire move with Reddie as adults
yeah.. I'm in the IT fandom and the huge majority of the fics or fanart are post-IT chapter 2. And if not, it's teenage reddie (usually 17-18). Reddie is just my favourite ship of all time and I think it always will be, but it's really confusing when people tend to think I'm talking about the 13 year olds when I'm actually talking about 40 year old reddie. I mean, I thought chapter 2 was just as popular?? it's choc full of popular actors.
I don't know if the botting is true or not, but Sapphic showdown's response gave me, "Oh no! Anyways," vibes, and I love it lol.
Yup, and what are they supposed to do about it anyway? Recounting won’t do shit since the losing side will always cry “bot”. The only reason the controversy exists is because people are sore losers.
The fact the poll maker had the fucking BALLS to pit sheith and klance together in the actual lineup itself is worthy of it's own respect. I am highkey impressed.
Seeing as I am in both the Sherlock and the Marvel Fandom here's my theory: For Stucky there are other people to ship them with (for example Tony and Sam) whereas in Johnlock there aren't really any other characters to ship them with which is why I think Johnlock is more popular.
That was my thoughts lol
As a veteran of the Stucky v Stony shipping wars I concur, Johnlock was fucking massive because it was a united front
@@jam-the-hologram agreed
PLUS, Johnlock has literally been going strong for over a 100 years ever since the books! I wish she kind of addressed that.
I get why people ship Steve and Tony, but at the same time it always just felt so wrong to me, like Steve knew his father, WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER THAN TONY.
I've been a SasuNaru fan since I became aware of yaoi. By the time I got married at 25, I chose my wedding colors as Blue and Orange for SasuNaru.
It may be cringe, but it never dies.
iconic
"It may be cringe, but it never dies" -The phantom of the opera about love
@francescapatti2934 CURSE YOU FOR MAKING THIS REFERENCE LMAO
wrightworth/narumitsu losing in the first round is my villain origin story
so true
“Haru has two hands” I love it. Those three were my original ot3 because I couldn’t pick a side. 😂
OT3s is the way to go instead of starting shipwars. If I can't decide I'll just stick them all together I don't care anymore.
Multishippers ftw lmao
lmao same XD I literally couldn't choose which main ship with haru is my OTP
YAS. People forget sharing is caring
As a huge ZhongChi shipper, I was shocked to see that ZhongChi had even made it into the poll, mainly because even though it's extremely popular, the ship had only existed about 2 years in comparison to the other ships that had existed for so much more time. Made me super happy though 😂
I can only imagine just how much more popular it might get in the next few years.
As a non-Zhongchi shipper, that was wildly entertaining lol. They barely even spoke to each other. And I will still never get over the fact that mihoyo rlly made Zhongli buy him marriage chopsticks, and Childe can't even use chopsticks 💀💀. A true representation of their relationship, considering how Childe apparently married the guy before he even knew his true identity.
Even if it's a ship I don't like, whenever mihoyo decides to go super ham on a ship and be super obvious I always get +10 respect points for them. That's always more preferable than keeping things super vague between characters.
they don't even talk after the archon quest which is wildly funny to me. they got married and immediately divorced LMAO
@@desolatedaydreams that is 100% what Childe would do lmao, but I'm betting they'll remarry solely because I know Childe wouldn't let a possible fight with a former archon slip by his grasp.
@@ettaetta439 their re-engagement party is just an all out brawl. the wedding reception is another fight, except this time with more firewater than the last, somehow. the traveler is commissioned to clean the venue afterwards for 3 primogems and a cabbage
Yeah as a huge zhongchi shipper I was surprised that it made it in the list cause compared to other shifts it's new but I was so happy that it won even if it's just 1 win a w is w in my book so 🎉🎉
Putting those Voltron ships against each other was stochastic terrorism and putting recent newcomer blackbonnet against 20-year all-time juggernaut sns was a set-up
Fun fact: There are some lines in HxH that seem to imply that Gon really is Killua’s First Crush™. There are also some lines that seem to imply that Gon used to take adult women on dates for money
Went from aww to wtf REAL quick
That's. Jfc.
I do admit that I was surprised a little at the lack of Cherik, those two were shipped for 2 decades because of the movies, and even both sets of actors who played them ship them 😆
Oof Cherik that really sends me back. It did seem to fade I wonder why 🤔
my friend got me into xmen and was like "bro erik and charles are super gay " and I was like naaaaah I dont see it then I watched and I was like "they are so gay"
I'M SAYINGG. Cherik was THE gay superhero ship back in the day
@@Wurmze It hasn’t faded on tumblr. But to be fair, a lot of the recent (3~years) of fan content is based around the comics (which are heavier on the shipping in canon) as well as the movies
I was so upset that they weren't there and byler too 😭 hyper has been popular since 2017
If you're looking for a reason re Snotacon: Solid Snake's VA was aware of the pool and pushing Snotacon. Still proud they got to semis, as they should!
Never forget the great Snotacon sweep of 2022! they all fought so hard!
Seriously? Lmao that sounds like something he would do
That’s so hilarious lmao
God, he got so invested it was genuinely hilarious
Source material?
To be honest, I'm just glad Wangxian was even in this poll, haha! (Even tho I'm a Xicheng girl, lol) Anything from MDZS is fire.
This was fun, Coley!
I kinda wish HuaLian could've been there too, but let's face it... MDZS is the gateway drug to an oh so wonderful world
@@thatgayliengremlinp4766 yes I agree but I am happy it's still there 🤗
Oh my gosh XiCheng!!
@@thatgayliengremlinp4766 100% true
WangXian almost won, WE ALMOST WON! Good job everyone, we did our best we may not might be the winner but the fact that we all got together and voted for them is a W for the whole fandom🥺❤️
some of these matchups were deliberate attempts in causing mess but it was so funny watching this go down in real time
OP knew what they were doing when they set up Sheith vs Klance (Dear god why are Voltron shipping names such disasters).
when it showed wrighworth vs spirk, i literally yelled, "NOOO, DON'T PIT FOUR KINGS AGAINST EACH OTHER"
Missed opportunity to call it MLM Melee 😔
then people might mistake it for
"multi-level marketing" 😂
I'm not surprised by the destiel vs hannigram results, a lot of people (including ME) were bitter after the supernatural ending and it's left a bad taste in our mouth. Also hannigram is also immaculate
I didn't even watch Supernatural and that ending fucked me up, what a shit ending.
Also yes, Hannigram is immaculate 💅💅
I was planning to finally watch Supernatural when I got smacked in the face with Destiel becoming canon for all of 5 seconds. The show still interests me so I’ll probably get to it eventually, but damn am I putting off for even longer
Hannigram walked, trying to give Destiel the chance to sprint, but in the end Destiel trips and knocks over everything in its path, but both still end up having continuous level 5 events and moments (thanks to the cons), and seemingly won’t stop trending together on tumblr from about March of 2024 onwards. Suffice to say, Hannigram won because it ate the rude and strutted its way to the shipping hall of fame (at least on Tumblr)
23:41 The thing is, Kawoshin in official licensed game can be married
Yes, even with canon naughty stuff 💀
They also have commercial couple rings and the ad is using them, it’s also their color.
what game is that? i knew some of the games had kaworu routes, but i didn't know they could actually get married in one?
@@subjectverbargument9871 they did, actually married
@@subjectverbargument9871 wait i don’t remember the name of the game lemme find it
@@subjectverbargument9871 search it as ikari Shinji raising project Kaworu. I'm kinda ashamed of knowing that information but the Kaworu route is probably the funniest shit I've ever seen
@@RandoPassingBy EIGHT MONTHS. EIGHT MONTHS WE HAVE WAITED.
Ok but Spock/Kirk making it past the first, second, and third rounds gave me life - there is hope for the human race.
Cackling over the Wangxian mess because I was 100% on Wangxian’s side, and I was really pleasantly surprised how far they made it. 😂
I know YOI is _huge_ and its ship(s) are extremely iconic, but Wangxian has done a _lot._ It came out of China, where the LGBTQ+ community is still pretty invisible and underground. While the laws are very unclear about LGBTQ+ in real life, it’s very clear that the media is meant to be suppressed, yet Wangxian really went and kicked danmei into high gear.
Danmei and bl are huge in China, but Wangxian just seemed to make everything bigger after it got a donghua and then _again_ after it got a cdrama.
That also helped spread danmei to the west, but it wasn’t _just_ that that Wangxian helped spread. MDZS was, along with _Quan Zhi Gao Shou,_ two donghua in 2018 that really introduced the international community to Chinese animation, which quickly led to a surge in growth for the donghua industry.
Without them, idk if we’d see as much talk about Chinese media as we do now. Like the MDZS donghua really solidified its animation studio (BC May) as a force to be reckoned with. Now BC May is one of the best-known donghua studios out there! Plus we have more and more donghua reaching success in China and in the west these days, which is awesome, and I really do think some of that is thanks to MDZS.
Plus MDZS has its donghua and cdrama adaptations, both of which were _huge_ nationally _and_ internationally, but also a manhua and audio drama adaptation, as well as the original novel. These have since been dubbed in Japanese as well, an internationalization opportunity that still feels rare and exciting every time it happens (the other two huge donghua in Japan are _Legend of Luoxiaohei_ and _Link Click,_ and MDZS is the only big danmei one out of these three).
MXTX is arguably also just the biggest danmei author out there in general right now, and it’s her novels that were the first danmei to be published by a big company in English _officially._ Plus MDZS really is probably MXTX’s most popular work, and it served as (besides Genshin) a representation of her other novels as well as Chinese media overall in the poll. The fact that the _entire danmei and donghua communities_ are continuing to grow and become more mainstream and some of that is thanks to Wangxian…
For me, that’s what made Wangxian so iconic.
Her works helped introduce people to danmei, to cdramas, to donghua, to Chinese audio dramas, to manhua, to the actors/singers Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo, to Taobao, to Tencent, to Bilibili, to boys’ love _in_ cdramas…
Hell, I hate to mention this, but Wangxian also almost _ruined_ Xiao Zhan’s life. It helped further propel him into stardom, yes, but for those in the MDZS fandom, you’re all probably aware of the fallout that shipping wars had on Xiao Zhan and in some ways on Ao3.
I know that’s a rather negative thing to bring up, but it does involve the Wangxian fandom. Even with that though, things have calmed down and despite so many adaptations of Wangxian having ended, the fandom continues to go strong (the manhua was the last adaptation to end just last month-now we “only” have _The Untamed_ mobile game left (as if the novel, donghua, and audio drama didn’t count as enough food ahaha)). The English translation of MDZS is also coming to an end soon, along with the English translations for TGCF and SVSSS, but Seven Seas already has _Erha_ and _Qian Qiu_ and various Priest novels lined up for translation. Really wouldn’t have had that if MXTX’s works _hadn’t_ been popular enough for its fan translators to reach out to a company for English translation, and for MXTX’s works to prove that they are formidable enough to be successful and popular _after_ publication in the west.
So at least in the west, even though MDZS definitely and obviously hasn’t reached the levels of _Star Trek_ (which was so important for building fandom in general), MDZS _has_ had a huge impact on fandom and media and Chinese fandom/media overall in the modern day. Like it really _has_ been a major stepping stone in the rise of Chinese media outside of China, which I’ll forever be grateful for.
I’m a Chinese media nerd through and through, with donghua being my favourite medium out of the bunch, and I’m glad they’re becoming more mainstream! 🥺
Plus it’s just…again, the fact that Wangxian (and even Zhongchi) represent how Chinese creators-and the LGBTQ+ community-continue to create/find representation in censored media…that’s pretty big. Chinese creators can’t afford to queerbait-they can _only_ give hints like this, and stuff like the dragon-and-phoenix chopsticks of Zhongchi or the three bows marriage ceremony of Wangxian are _riskier to put in than to leave out._ There are already unconfirmed rumours that MXTX was jailed for writing gay ships, and while these are entirely unfounded rumours, the very _fact_ they exist show how Chinese creators continue to slip in gay content despite not having to.
So yeah. Wangxian-and danmei and Chinese creators in general-are doing a lot, even if it’s not really as huge in the west still, and I will always appreciate them for that! 👏
Well explained. Can you explain the shipping drama with Xiao Zhan to me? I wasn't there for that. (I wish he didn't have to go through that)
@@izzya7703
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ruclips.net/video/jEGmw65kt1c/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/8g8_DMHdXvI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/PCF8uKjs9Zs/видео.html
These can explain what happened better than I can, I'm a little fuzzy on the exact details of what went down
@@izzya7703 Im not aware of everything that happened, but basically what i know is that a NSFW fan fiction involving xiao zhan and wang yibo (not as their characters, but as themselves) got many complaints by fans who wanted to save xiao zhan's image since he was being portrayed in a feminine way and it was the reason that the chinese government blocked ao3 in china, so many of the chinese fans got mad at him for it, since now they had to find other ways to read/write fanfic, but like, xiao zhan's projects got postponed and brand deals got canceled because people were harassing him and his coworkers and he had to basically stay out of the spotlight for a few months while everything calmed down
** Also if anyone read this and I'm wrong about something, feel free to correct me
@@kiffwerp9875 Thanks for the explanation
‘More guidelines than actual rules’ is a perfect description of cannonical stuff in relation to fandom. props to you, coley.
One thing that I don't think any of the other ships had is that the voice actors for Snake and Otacon tweeted about the poll, which probably helped them a lot, ( also, please get into metal gear and Snotacon, its amazing)
David Hayter tweeting #snotaconsweep and also saying that Solid Snake supports Trans Rights? Love him
Casey Mongillo, English VA of Shinji in Evangelion, was also tweeting about it, it just went unnoticed by you all it seems like. Casey always supports Kawoshin, likes fanarts of them etc. And unlike Snakes VA he was respectful about the other ship and a good sport. I don't see yall mentioning how that VA said about Kawoshin "congrats ship that I never heard of"... talk about embarrassing
Spirk vs Narumitsu? Jeez, it's like she read my mind for the two ship I love most and said "now fight!" 😭 So hard to choose.
I agree!!! It was a hard choice..
I feel like I was one of the only voltron people that didn't ship klance and people used to harass me over it which didn't make me wanna ship it any more than I already non-existently did💀
edit: they would use the "cradled in arms" line against me so much like yes, Janice, I expect a group of CHILDREN at the frontlines of intergalactic WAR who are all linked to the same giant fucking magical robot to have a pretty strong bond believe it or not
Yeah, i don't ship them either. I just don't see the appeal. I was a more
shiro x keith ship. Rare pair ship is Lotor x Keith
Same here lol, I just wasn’t a fan of Lance in general…shiro/keith ftw
I shipped Lance with a person solely based off an animatic that made me start the show, do with that what you will. no it wasn't allura I disliked her character for a while
@@weewooweewoo9520 May I ask if the animatic had a certain blue and green dynamic? Because that's how I got into Voltron too
I remember shipping komelle because it had Rapunzel vibes and I used to ship Romelle x sven from the 80s vers.
Hannigram beating both Destiel and Johnlock is one of the best moments of my life 🤣
Sad that Beiguang wouldn’t be eligible in the sapphic/yuri poll, I think they could have made it far, looking forward to that since it doesn’t get as much attention as the yaoi/gay ships
There are many reasons why. The wlw/sapphic content has been limited over the past ten years but recently there's been a big boom of wlw ships and it's gaining more popularity with each and every day. There's alot of ships with thousands of fanfics and hunderds of thousands of posts on social media sites.
The main issue is we need more content and thankfully its getting better.
Yeah, wlw ships is where Genshin pretty much shines, cause Hoyo loves teasing the lesbians. Unfortunately people either hate Genshin too much or Genshin Twitter just decided to be an asshole, again, like they do everyday. Jesus, sometimes I'm glad I don't interact with this fandom very often.
@@jmd0605 yeah, it's a shame the fandom can be so terrible -most of the time- sometimes. For some reason their inner demons unleash upon seeing which legal pixels random strangers love to see kissing. And that's how it is with literally everything else, I could say "the stars are so beautiful in Genshin!" And someone will get offended and say "are you implying that Qingyun Peak is not pretty?" They'll find any reason to get pissy, I hope the fandom matures up.
Rip narumistu/wrightworth. You deserved better.
I'd say we fought as hard as we could ;u;
I'm just so proud that Leopika got so far. That's my bickering boys! Your love is eternal!
As for the final results, I really don't care, it's all harmless fun XD
I asked my sister which one should I choose between Spirk and Wangxian and even she had a hard time picking between them. XD
A battle more brutal than defending your ship from the opposition, is the internal one existing while claiming loyalty to two you adore.
I think that, regardless of who won, people were always gonna be mad and demand a recount.
When Spirk and Wangxian were up against each other, it was the longest day of my life on the internet. That's all I have to say because the highlight of that day was us getting Ngozi Ukazu (author of Check, Please!) to draw a Star Trek AU for Zimbits after not having any fresh OMGCP art since Renaissance came out
this is a W
22:48 She pulled a Nie Huaisang
as someone who was introduced to the world of gay shipping through sasunaru i’m kinda surprised it made it this far, i mean i know the ship is still huge but i didn’t think there were that many hardcore fans who cared enough to vote for it 🤷🏾♀️.
Mad respect for Hannigram beating out Destiel on the first round.
Coley, since you haven't seen HxH I highly recommend. Shipping fuel for days, an iconic controversial clown man, a really heartfelt story and some of the best moments in anime.
With virtual polls, it's like with real ones: There are always people who vote *against* something, not for. So I'm sure some of these results are the way they are due to people that aren't fans of a particular medium or ship.
As a Member of the ace Attorney fanbase, I cannot tell you how shocked I was when i saw wrightworth up there.
I love how both finalists are ships I know more of than the source material they come from.
Actually, I’m pretty sure content from both ships were the first thing that brought my attention to the existence of said source material in the first place.
You going for a play-by-play of fandom polls whilst sounding like a jaded sports commentator is slowly becoming my favourite type of content on this channel, which seeing how you're constantly putting out bangers is saying something. Yes, please to the sapphic showdown coverage. :D
(Despite having 0 evidence to back up that claim I'm also willing to bet botting did happen, but I'm personally finding this funny more than anything else.)
Looking back on this and being a part of both the Spn (long time) and Hannibal (more recently) fandoms, makes it so much more funny that two of the actual canon ships on the duke out had to face each other. And honestly, Hannigram has been waiting nearly 10 years for more content by creators besides cons, so honestly, good for Hannigram. They slayed (in all the possible connotations) and good for them. Glad to see both shows existing in trending on Tumblr since March this year and they haven’t really stopped. They’re not allowed to die, just like their characters.
Victuri will always be number one in my HEART
same
Snotacon is borderline canon. They adopted a lil girl, Sunny, who tells the future through cooking eggs.
Until Eva Vs Snotacon, I’m pretty sure every mecha fandom involved was supporting each other out of solidarity lol.
I was around for the ending of the H*talia ship/flame wars. I remember Victuuri becoming canon. I was there when Rise of Skywalker was announced. I watched Voltron when it first came out. I panicked as my tumblr crashed when Destiel became canon in the Spanish dub. I cosplayed Overhaul to a con before COVID hit. I voted in the Tumblr Sexyman Poll. I have seen it all.
Ooooh this was so fun to watch. The lack of AshEiji, JayVik, and JaskierxGeralt was honestly surprising. (And yes, PLEASE share your Klance recs. I’d love to add more to my collection).
i was honestly surprised Ineffable Husbands weren’t in the pool
WAIT THERES NO ASHEJI
WHAT IS THIS CRAP
good god shipping wars. i do not miss those days one bit. shipping is like a fun little exercise, explore the characters, maybe make a bit of content, the end. it doesn't need to be more than that pls
The shipping wars of shows that already ended are interesting, you see why people like the result of cannon, and why some want the end game be another.
I'm still on the front against amethyst ocean shippers. They are stubborn to an almost admirable degree.
I feel like Coley would really enjoy HxH and the ships in it honestly, idk why but I can totally see her getting really into Leopika, like they're kind of enemies to lovers but done in a really wholesome way
LOL wild seeing my own tweets read out here 😭😭 thank you for covering this!! It went hectic towards the end, but it was so much fun, i'm glad to see it covered!!
#KAWOSHINSWEEP
SNOTACON IS WHERE "DO YOU THINK LOVE CAN BLOOM EVEN ON A BATTLEFIELD?" COMES FROM. NEVER FORGET THE GREAT SNOTACON SWEEP OF 2022. WE WERE SO CLOSE, MGS FANDOM. WE'LL GET EM NEXT TIME.
NEVER FORGET.
Crowley x Aziraphale not being here is crazy, kinda wished Jack x Ianto was on there but nobody knows those guys lol
I wanted ineffable husbands there too, but I also wanted johnlock to win so there's that lmao
Our beautiful Ineffable Husbands definitely will be in the next one! At least, I hope that they will.
@@ViktorySubliminals true
As someone there when the poll was running, it was really funny seeing most of Gundam Twitter pile on to supporting Leopika as a form of vengeance for Char and Amuro
I think maybe the way canon Destiel happened turned some people off of it.
Justice for heartstopper ship and patrochilles.
😭😭😭
this
Patrochilles it's not only an iconic ship but an historical ship
T h i s.
sapphic showdown! i would love that! i don't have many sapphic ships personally but i would love to see other people's opinions on ships (and maybe find some new content with popular wlw ships)
I get the whole, "there are too many iconic yaoi ships to put on here" thing from the beginning, but I was SHOCKED to see that soukoku (aka Dazai x Chuuya from bsd) didn't make it on here. I'm not even a huge fan of them personally (don't hate them tho), but like...bro...I was seeing screenshots and shit for them LONG before I watched bsd, and they are really iconic imo. There's so much going on with them, like how did they not...? It's confusing.
2 words lap scene
as a Hannigram-shipper I was surprised and delighted that we beat Destiel, and surprised and disappointed that we lost out to Kawoshin.
Puzzleshipping is ONE OF the most iconic yaoi ships you can't convince me otherwise. I'm surprised it wasn't here. Oh and Destiel. And Soriku is up there too. In fact ngl those three ships opened my eyes TO gay ships and shipping in general even if I still have weird feelings about shipping cause the internet can be absolutely the worst- STOP BLOWING HOLES IN PEOPLE'S SHIPS!
na💀
Big sadgies that Wenzhou didn't make it
Omg I though puzzleshipping was a fever dream from my youth good to know it's not
@@soccergalz7401 nooooooo it was HUGE back in the day lol
the fact that soriku got knocked out by hunterxhunter of all things is a crime. and yugioh ship fics is still the standard i judge all current fandom ship fics by
That fic recommendation for MDZS is one of my favorite AUs for the fandom
if this poll has put anything into perspective it's how much wangxian has taken over my life 🙃
I don’t have Twitter but I’d love to see the results of an all MXTX-verse poll and also the fallout of a Battle of the Problematic Ships poll. Reylo vs Sebaciel. FIGHT!
After watching a Kawoshin compilation of pretty gay *official* representation of the characters, I totally understand why Kawoshin won and/or deserves the title of "most iconic gay ship". They're (quasi-)canon!
Spirk and Wangxian taking the cake makes my entire day!(btw i just found out about fandom wars becos of this video lol)
Yes, cover the Yuri poll PLEASE omg this is peak fandom entertainment :D
hannigram beating both destiel AND johnlock is probably one of the greatest occurrences in the hannibal fandom. well done, fellow fannibals
As a more recent fannibal, and a long time Destiel shipper, I’ve come to realize that while Hannigram strutted so Destiel could try and run, Destiel took 5 steps and face planted, allowing Hannigram to get back up and continue to strut - reminding tumblr how a polite fandom and canon ship acts.
@@AlexCorporations so real
(some /Mild/ spoilers) Snotacon (Snake x Otacon, yes, like the convention) is a really great ship. It features Otacon, a nerdy scientist who's sad bc his inventions are being used to kill, just as his fathers' and grandfathers' inventions were used to kill. And Snake, who is literally a clone and brainwashed into being a supersoldier, and is sad bc he's being used to kill. They first meet when Snake stops a malfunctioning cybrog ninja from killing Otacon. No, Im not joking. Very iconic shit right here :3c
they later adopt a daughter together
I ship Kawoshin with my life. And honestly I was expecting to lose round 1, I can't believe we won. Like, what? Really? I'm happy but just shocked. In my own experience, Kawoshin gets really ignored. In NGE, there's always Shinji x Rei vs. Shinji x Asuka discussion; but I don't see that much Kawoshin. And there are barely any fics. Compared to Narusasu, they have like 12k fics in AO3 and we don't even make it to 1.5k. That's why I'm so surprised. Am I missing something? And also... does anyone have recs? lol
what part of the fandom are you in? in terms of fan arts and fics kawoshin was always the most popular
@@rana_con_sombrerowright7238 please send fic recs all i found is a dry desert for some reason
Now that you mention it, I don't remember seeing that many fics on AO3... This ship has tons of doujins, fanarts, official arts & advertisements and YT videos though.
@@rana_con_sombrerowright7238 kawoshin doesn't exactly lack for content, but unless you happen to have a vested interest in the ship it's pretty much buried under the sheer amount of merchandise, advertisement, and general discourse surrounding rei and asuka, both of whom also happen to be the main love interests of the show
I had the same confusion as you: I adore Kawoshin because Shinji deserves good things after all the depressing shit he's gone through (plus...the chemistry is definitely there and it is so sweet)! Still, I didn't know that it was such a juggernaut in the MLM scene that it won the wholeass poll. I came in expecting the exact same round 1 loss 😭
"Dammit my yaoi senses are broken!"
-Coley, 2022
I can't believe Coley set there for 3+ hours doing this. Dedication 🤗💜👌🏼✊🏼
Never realized how different the big fandoms on Twitter and Tumblr are this days, like the Tumblr awards thing has mostly completely different ships on the slash category
My WrightWorth heart was a bit disappointed to see them lose so quickly, but oh well, they were against perhaps one of the most defining mlm ships to like, ever exist here in the west, so it wasn't much of a competition.
Destiel losing to Hannigram, though...I've never seen either of the shows but I was legitimately shocked and am a bit convinced that we are in the dark timeline. It's just TOO iconic of a ship to go down that quick, ya know?
I know it’s late to say, but Hannigram strutted and slayed so Destiel could have the chance to run, but ended up falling over face first before the first lap was over. (Plus, while both the Spn and Hannibal cast and creators have a genuine care for the characters, the Hannibal cast and creators never mocked or treated fans who enjoyed the ship poorly. Hell Bryan fuller and the cast realized the ship made sense and encouraged and canonized it fully in the end. Plus, Hannibal has been getting a giant resurgence recently, and really has had a more vocal but respectful fan base, so I’m guessing that’s why it won). Again, I know it’s late but seeing my two beloved ships go head to head makes me cackle but also feral.
I was honestly shocked at how far leopika made it, i thought it'd lose first round... especially since the 99 ver is so much gayer and not that many people have seen it. Maybe its because hxh is coming back? I'm glad tho i love them
I can't believe DRARRY got into the poll but WOLFSTAR DIDN'T?!
probably because of the massive amount of wattpad style drarry fanfics, but maybe wolfstar will appear in the future?
ikr, i can't believe the harry potter fandom😐
probably because drarry is more iconic
even though wolfstar is hugely popular in hp fandom _and_ the marauders subfandom, and thus independant of the golden trio era fics, it appears that the poll creator did not want to put in competition 2 ships from the same fandom
but considering the very high popularity of wolfstar and the marauders last years, i wonder what the results would have been
my bad, i forgot Free! and Voltron...
@@nouspartimes keep in mind. Wolfstar is more iconic for their sheer power of CREATING a fandom of itself (the Marauders fandom)
Without Wolfstar, there is no Marauders fandom- because it all sprang from Wolfstar shippers seeking out the younger years to make their ship canon. I'd say it holds more power especially since the Marauders fandom had become so prominent in the last few years.
oof, Spirk being pit against Wrightworth hurt my soul. I feel like both of those deserved to be in the final.
its ok wangxian u number 1 in my heart
As a huge genshin fan the fact that not only is genshin getting taken out of future polls but it's so bad that the word was censored is both sad and extremely funny to me.
(Also helll yeah Sapphic poll pls)
merthur deserve better,,,, cuz one of them literally dead while the other STILL ALIVE AND WAITING FOR THE OTHER TO COME BACK... that kind of angst what makes the fandom linger this long
You know, since blackbonnet is here Im surprised that ineffable husbands isin’t, since they share such close fandoms and are both canon. In fact I would argue that Good Omens has a bigger fanbase then OFMD so its just weird.
GO fandom may be feral but we're chill ig
13:45 I recently finished watching all of Merlin, and for some reason I thought it was this awesome thing that NOBODY else had heard of, so when I saw this I was like: Oh my god, other people watch this?!?!? lol
Hey... Check it out on AO3
You'll be mighty surprised about just HOW MUCH CONTENT THERE IS
God, I love your videos about fandoms and these voting wars 😔🍺
I like seeing how my favorite ships were loosing
Shipping wars are fun to watch. It's funny how mad people get over ships.
the loss of merthur hurt me so bad bc merlin is my current hyperfixation
YES, please do the sapphic poll! The wlw ships are so underrated when compared to the mlm pairings.