If villain folds, I buy the clock-caller a drink, lol. More seriously, as has been illustrated herein, I don't react at all. As was revealed in this call, the "what ifs" in the mind would ensue, but they're not helpful.
The first thing I do is not lie about how long it has been. Floor always asks the dealer if enough time has passed before starting the countdown, and dealer confirms it has. I'll bet $1000 the guy took longer than 60 seconds.
The reason why all ins get called more is because it's comes off as more polarizing. People think it's either a monster or air. As opposed to betting 75-100% the pot that comes off as value. So now players have to think this could be still a monster, heavy vaule hand, or air. Jamming takes heavy value out of people thought process.
Though I feel turn sizing is more to blame for that, there really aren't a lot of non-all-in bet sizes that make any sense given the SPR maybe $550 for a half pot and leaves you room but potting turn and sizing down river also looks weird. I feel like you want to either over-bet turn ($450-$500) or go like $275.
Over Bets get called less not more, most players are simply to risk averse to call. It’s also foreign to them, the idea of polarization has never occurred. It also feeds into their style whereby they just want to jam allin to kill the hand whenever they think they have the best hand and are scared about being outdrawn. So when they see someone else do it they just project that tendency
@@qazzaqstan Given that the Q changes the Nuts, and that a larger % of Villain's range should be JTs compared to Hero's ( who holds a massive range advantage, though) , a small 30% + Range double-barrel looks appropriate: - Hero's bet size on the Turn looks imo indeed far(!) too BIG ( and, yes: polarizing) , committing him to jam on the River, but NOT: Too small. 🤔 - A quite different situation to a 2-9 (low-card) blank on the Turn, probably.
I think the turn sizing lands us at a weird SPR at the river when called. I think checking the turn or betting the turn larger are both better options. Hand started multiway so theres less fold equity overall.
I like $950-1050 river bet.. I've always liked giving 3 options...on the theory that "giving 3 decision path choices gives V an additional Wrong Choice option".... ? It sounds counterintuitive, but "options paralysis" is definitely a thing... To each their own...
i agree with pretty much all of heros decisions in this hand and think he played it very well. agree with others on river sizing, though, i think you can get away with less than all in and still accomplish the same thing. i suppose that if i played in this game often with the same group of regular opponents and frequently polarized river overbet all ins, then the shove is probably fine but thats a pretty specific scenario that sounds like its not the case here.
The real paradox is by calling larger bets down assuming they are bluffs, is, in fact, the correct adjustment because as they player/caller said... if he had top set he'd probably bet 800 for value.. . The large bet size is consistently a sign they are bluffing.. what is most interesting is the general public has made the adjustment...
In any good poker room, the floor will ask the dealer how much time the player has taken, or (only if the dealer is competent at poker) ask the dealer if the player has had a reasonable amount of time. If the dealer says 90 seconds or no in this pot, the floor will mildly admonish the clock caller, and say the player is not using an unreasonable amount of time. Then the floor hangs out and decides when to call the clock. I agree with Bart, that saying anything yourself, is a mistake. The person calling the clock might be signaling their friend to call, or might be trying to induce you to react which will help their friend, etc. Not reacting at all, is always less of a tell than reacting, with very limited exceptions where anyone would react, whether or not they were bluffing or had the nuts. I am not completely unwilling to call the clock when I'm not in a hand, if it's a small to average sized pot and either a habitual tanker, or someone using tanking to angle/tilt a courteous player into giving off tells for an unreasonably long time, especially a fish. But in a big pot, even an angler deserves time to think. The tiebreaker which sometimes lets me decide to be the bad guy calling the clock, is when every player at the table is rolling their eyes at each other about how long it's been, and nobody has the guts to call the clock. Then I'm willing to be that guy. I'm there to play poker, not watch a clown show by someone who is frozen up about their decision. It's not as if they're still calculating, they are just frozen like a deer in the headlights after taking 3x to 10x as long as that specific decision should take. I've seen players tank for all sorts of reasons. Even just to keep the dealer from getting a reasonable number of hands and tips during their half hour in the box, because they dealt a death card once upon a time. Every situation is different, and while I prefer flying under the radar at most tables, I never rule out occasionally being a poker cop when needed, to keep fish and affluent recs from being driven away from the table or from poker.
I dont think hero is gonna play his AJ or AT this way, Im pretty sure hero is gonna check back all his non-2pair AX combos at the river cuz it has great showdown and can win alot of villains hand. With that being said, I'm not sure if hero is gonna turn his KJ/T or QJ/T into bluff at the river. From an mdf perspective, I think A2hh is prolly at the very top of villain's range here according to the line, better bluff catcher is gonna be AJs or ATs that unblock heart flush draw, cuz weaker kicker is prolly gonna fold on the turn since they didn't pick up additional equity.
Being old, I'd be tempted to check the turn back for a free card (to keep from getting blown off my draw by JT check raise shoving the nuts) and to have a bigger bluffing stack on the river. Of course, in this particular hand, if I hit the flush, I'd be in deep trouble just like hero would have been with his own line. And if villain just had JT without the flush, I might not get fully paid off if I hit the flush. One downside of checking back the turn, is inducing a lead bluff on the river, where villain thinks he's behind, but he's actually ahead, so I can't bluff catch. It becomes a choice to fold after saving myself the cost of more than one barrel, versus raising the river and hoping he has a hand he can fold. Sometimes when you flop just crappy back doors that might lose even if you hit, there isn't much downside to just taking a free card on the flop or turn, before you dig too deep a hole. Sometimes in this hand I'd lose $15, sometimes $75, sometimes $225 (by betting $150 instead of $75 if I do bet the flop). I only lose big if I hit the flush, and that's only due to villain's actual hand rather than his range dominating me.
Yeah, all in looks like a bluff but a smaller bet looks like it's hoping to be called fur value and I think he folds to 900 or 1k He loses way more often than he wins with that call so it's good information to have on the Villain if You were to rebuy
How does caller know it was only 60 seconds? Did he time it? Doubt. He's absolutely making this up to favor himself. It's everyone's right to call clock. Stop complaining and deal.
Had someone not in the hand call clock on my opponent two different times. Same guy both times, in different sessions. Finally had to say something about it to him. Here, I think with two hearts, we can bet $600-$700 on the river and accomplish the same thing an all in jam does. A smaller size probably gets more folds than a bigger size, at least against certain opponents, depending on our table image.
The decision point here is on the turn, should have bet 500 and then either give up river or jam. While it’s true that hero has a range advantage it’s only slight, and HJ should also have a pretty decent range here. All hero is representing by this point is two pair or a set which is too narrow of a range for most opponents to fold to. Turn overbet the tells the story of how strong you are to get hands like AJ to fold.
That live exploit of calling more for all ins ob than 75-100% pot is probably the worst poker mistake you can make. It worked for villian, but this is a money printing spot, that you can actually ob the set of aces, ak, etc, and they call ob with an ace with no kicker or kj, k6s. I don't think theoratically there is wrong with the line, but this exploit is probably the biggest error EV-wise live play do, and you should adjust to whales
Playing live the push looks bluffy like you can't win unless you push. That's why it works when you have a monster and get paid. I would bet 800. It looks like pure value.
Seems like the hero is lying. I have never seen anyone calling clock so fast. Probably the guy was tanking over 1 min, which calling a clock is justified.
I don't say anything...then next time that dude takes more than 20 seconds I call the clock and stare daggers at him...yeah I'm the passive aggressive dude that rolls like that.
just fold the crap on flop! dammit! Missed it by miles...then, going against two opponents of which one is initial pf raiser, with two *tall* (lol) cards on board... this is just a disaster continuing betting. Moreover, if called by anybody, then...slow down turn. Simply, the opponent is not going to be afraid of "Q", since he wasn't afraid of two other monsters already. So, turn bet is sure call! River shove is a clear sign of bluffing. Representing a monster hand is not going to work, as a monster would not shove overbet. Neither a pair or two pairs of A. So: the only option that's left is: a _"missed everything possible"_ hand. Ohh, yeah...after called clock, advising the floor is irrelevant to V's river call for the reasons given above. EDIT: _Fold crap on flop_ used as an expression; in this case: check crap back, applies.
This is my local casino I was wondering if a call would ever come in lol. Im a tournament grinder and never had anything scummy like that happen to me as far as the clock call. As far as getting called off on the river by a marginal hand that adds up😂
Because of which hearts are on board, opponent never gets here with QX or KX, therefore opponent always has AX or better giving QX the exact same amount of showdown value as 8 hi, none, making QX a much better bluff candidate than missed hearts, QJs and QTs should be our only bluffs here, blasting 3 streets with 8 high is way overbluffing, some might consider it punting, especially if you only value shove KK and not AK, you should be value shoving AK+, when people see you overbet and show down value they'll be less likely to hero you down after
Yea I agree that an 800-1200 bet gets more folds than an all in. That’s still a horrible call imo by HJ considering how many bluffs you’re still losing to
wat. villain called a 5x open pf with A2s then called a 3bet closing the action. hes obviously never folding flop or turn and then correctly looked up hero on the river. not saying thats how id always play it but idk his play seems perfectly reasonably to me.
Is this necessary at all, when the table is good? We could just call pre and fold flop to a bet, losing 15. Not the most exciting line, but certainly the most profitable at a table with whales. People call down for their entire stack with top pair no kicker. Wait for value and win. It's that simple
Don't get me wrong, I love taking lines like these when I know my opponents are a little money scared or see me as a nit, but never ever against such terrible players
This is a punt. Dont care about structure and ranges. Playing 2/3 and trying to bluff weak players in 3k pots isn’t where the money is. Guy calls with a2. This is a value table after they call make hands and bet big.
Just curious....4 handed in a sit n go $150 ....blinds are 1/2k...button jams 35k ..shes low stack..i have 55k (2nd )in the SB and have AQ ....snap call right ???
A big bet looks more like bluff or nuts. So you could imagine that it is 50/50 and then a call is good in the long run. But a bet 50-80% of the pot looks more like a value bet? And if Fi thinks that way, he should fold A2 when you bluff? Overbet in this situation was a mistake.
Personally, i never make a comment when there is big action. Especially when not in the hand. I dont want the "blame" real or imagined. But id for sure call the clock on this guy every chance i got. Usually if one player is aggravatingly slow, others will verbalize displeasure. Somehow. Caller makes this sound like it just came out of the blue. Sounds like a jerk move, as presented. Otherwise, i agree on the river sizing. 800 to 900.
Unpopular opinion: Put a clock at every table, give every player a button to start it counting down from say 80 seconds. Dealer has the stop/reset button. Let's play poker. The caller is suggesting that the MORE time we give villain, the WORSE decision he'll make? And that's the default mode you want?? - given that sometimes you'll face the decision & sometimes you'll be out of the hand?
Yea i would have bet 800-900. Make it look like i want a call n its for value. I see many players going all in n a lot of times its a bluff. Also depends what profile of villain is he a donk? A nit? If hes a donk theres no way im 3, barreling here. C-bet n if villain calls give up n check.
How bout no. It's my right to do. If you're wasting time, I'm calling clock. Your cards aren't going to improve after 2 minutes and you aren't actually covering any new bases. Get over it, Nancy.
@@jacobpotter2237 Oh no I won't get cheated by a bunch of scumbags and have to play in a public casino with 200 tables and constant fish punting stacks 24/7 whatever will I do?
You make an all in bluff for the biggest pot of the night and someone not in the hand calls the clock after only a minute. How do you react?
If villain folds, I buy the clock-caller a drink, lol. More seriously, as has been illustrated herein, I don't react at all. As was revealed in this call, the "what ifs" in the mind would ensue, but they're not helpful.
On a side note, if this guy is calling here he's the wrong person to bluff. 😂
The first thing I do is not lie about how long it has been. Floor always asks the dealer if enough time has passed before starting the countdown, and dealer confirms it has. I'll bet $1000 the guy took longer than 60 seconds.
There are clock rules for a reason. Some place you pay by the hour, no? Just say nothing.
The reason why all ins get called more is because it's comes off as more polarizing. People think it's either a monster or air. As opposed to betting 75-100% the pot that comes off as value. So now players have to think this could be still a monster, heavy vaule hand, or air. Jamming takes heavy value out of people thought process.
Though I feel turn sizing is more to blame for that, there really aren't a lot of non-all-in bet sizes that make any sense given the SPR maybe $550 for a half pot and leaves you room but potting turn and sizing down river also looks weird. I feel like you want to either over-bet turn ($450-$500) or go like $275.
@@qazzaqstanturn is the mistake. Need to overbet to size the river properly.
Over Bets get called less not more, most players are simply to risk averse to call. It’s also foreign to them, the idea of polarization has never occurred. It also feeds into their style whereby they just want to jam allin to kill the hand whenever they think they have the best hand and are scared about being outdrawn. So when they see someone else do it they just project that tendency
Which is why you should be setting up your thick value to jam river lmao
@@qazzaqstan Given that the Q changes the Nuts, and that a larger % of Villain's range should be JTs compared to Hero's ( who holds a massive range advantage, though) , a small 30% + Range double-barrel looks appropriate: - Hero's bet size on the Turn looks imo indeed far(!) too BIG ( and, yes: polarizing) , committing him to jam on the River, but NOT: Too small. 🤔 - A quite different situation to a 2-9 (low-card) blank on the Turn, probably.
I think the turn sizing lands us at a weird SPR at the river when called. I think checking the turn or betting the turn larger are both better options. Hand started multiway so theres less fold equity overall.
Overbetting on a straight completing card isn’t a thing
They’re over 600bb deep in a 3 bet pot spr is gonna be off
I like $950-1050 river bet.. I've always liked giving 3 options...on the theory that "giving 3 decision path choices gives V an additional Wrong Choice option".... ?
It sounds counterintuitive, but "options paralysis" is definitely a thing...
To each their own...
i agree with pretty much all of heros decisions in this hand and think he played it very well. agree with others on river sizing, though, i think you can get away with less than all in and still accomplish the same thing. i suppose that if i played in this game often with the same group of regular opponents and frequently polarized river overbet all ins, then the shove is probably fine but thats a pretty specific scenario that sounds like its not the case here.
The real paradox is by calling larger bets down assuming they are bluffs, is, in fact, the correct adjustment because as they player/caller said...
if he had top set he'd probably bet 800 for value.. . The large bet size is consistently a sign they are bluffing.. what is most interesting is the general public has made the adjustment...
The idea of "only" betting 800 with AA is because he's blocking villain's combos to call with. He also said he'd "basically always shove" with KK.
In any good poker room, the floor will ask the dealer how much time the player has taken, or (only if the dealer is competent at poker) ask the dealer if the player has had a reasonable amount of time. If the dealer says 90 seconds or no in this pot, the floor will mildly admonish the clock caller, and say the player is not using an unreasonable amount of time. Then the floor hangs out and decides when to call the clock.
I agree with Bart, that saying anything yourself, is a mistake. The person calling the clock might be signaling their friend to call, or might be trying to induce you to react which will help their friend, etc. Not reacting at all, is always less of a tell than reacting, with very limited exceptions where anyone would react, whether or not they were bluffing or had the nuts.
I am not completely unwilling to call the clock when I'm not in a hand, if it's a small to average sized pot and either a habitual tanker, or someone using tanking to angle/tilt a courteous player into giving off tells for an unreasonably long time, especially a fish. But in a big pot, even an angler deserves time to think.
The tiebreaker which sometimes lets me decide to be the bad guy calling the clock, is when every player at the table is rolling their eyes at each other about how long it's been, and nobody has the guts to call the clock. Then I'm willing to be that guy.
I'm there to play poker, not watch a clown show by someone who is frozen up about their decision. It's not as if they're still calculating, they are just frozen like a deer in the headlights after taking 3x to 10x as long as that specific decision should take.
I've seen players tank for all sorts of reasons. Even just to keep the dealer from getting a reasonable number of hands and tips during their half hour in the box, because they dealt a death card once upon a time. Every situation is different, and while I prefer flying under the radar at most tables, I never rule out occasionally being a poker cop when needed, to keep fish and affluent recs from being driven away from the table or from poker.
I'm honestly surprised he called at all with A2 if hero has any other Ace he loses props to him for sniffing out hero's bluff!
I dont think hero is gonna play his AJ or AT this way, Im pretty sure hero is gonna check back all his non-2pair AX combos at the river cuz it has great showdown and can win alot of villains hand. With that being said, I'm not sure if hero is gonna turn his KJ/T or QJ/T into bluff at the river. From an mdf perspective, I think A2hh is prolly at the very top of villain's range here according to the line, better bluff catcher is gonna be AJs or ATs that unblock heart flush draw, cuz weaker kicker is prolly gonna fold on the turn since they didn't pick up additional equity.
@@XuChen-ny7td Yeah the overbet jam is way too polarized to be any 1 pair hand, so the A2 may as well be AJ when hero is this polarized.
Being old, I'd be tempted to check the turn back for a free card (to keep from getting blown off my draw by JT check raise shoving the nuts) and to have a bigger bluffing stack on the river. Of course, in this particular hand, if I hit the flush, I'd be in deep trouble just like hero would have been with his own line. And if villain just had JT without the flush, I might not get fully paid off if I hit the flush.
One downside of checking back the turn, is inducing a lead bluff on the river, where villain thinks he's behind, but he's actually ahead, so I can't bluff catch. It becomes a choice to fold after saving myself the cost of more than one barrel, versus raising the river and hoping he has a hand he can fold.
Sometimes when you flop just crappy back doors that might lose even if you hit, there isn't much downside to just taking a free card on the flop or turn, before you dig too deep a hole.
Sometimes in this hand I'd lose $15, sometimes $75, sometimes $225 (by betting $150 instead of $75 if I do bet the flop). I only lose big if I hit the flush, and that's only due to villain's actual hand rather than his range dominating me.
no. you have 8 high, a huge range advantage and have picked up tons of equity on the turn. you should be betting a big size here.
I like 675 to 800 river bet. I lean towards the bottom end of 600ish. About 60 percent of the pot.
ace 2 lol what a hero
I don’t think you can flat pre. I rather you fold than flat. Definitely like a 3bet especially from btn. I don’t like taking 87 multiway
Yeah, all in looks like a bluff but a smaller bet looks like it's hoping to be called fur value and I think he folds to 900 or 1k
He loses way more often than he wins with that call so it's good information to have on the Villain if You were to rebuy
Totally true about live. A couple times I got told that they called because I bet pot but if I bet smaller they would have folded
I play in this same room/game full time for profit and can say with absolute certainty 8-900 river bet is waaaay more optimal
Just curious, what do you make in a year full time at these stakes? If u care to share
@@well.thy.one. he is telling stories
How does caller know it was only 60 seconds? Did he time it? Doubt. He's absolutely making this up to favor himself. It's everyone's right to call clock. Stop complaining and deal.
When a player leaves sort of an awkward size behind on the river, usually I think it means the turn bet was miss sized.
Had someone not in the hand call clock on my opponent two different times. Same guy both times, in different sessions. Finally had to say something about it to him.
Here, I think with two hearts, we can bet $600-$700 on the river and accomplish the same thing an all in jam does. A smaller size probably gets more folds than a bigger size, at least against certain opponents, depending on our table image.
The decision point here is on the turn, should have bet 500 and then either give up river or jam. While it’s true that hero has a range advantage it’s only slight, and HJ should also have a pretty decent range here. All hero is representing by this point is two pair or a set which is too narrow of a range for most opponents to fold to. Turn overbet the tells the story of how strong you are to get hands like AJ to fold.
That live exploit of calling more for all ins ob than 75-100% pot is probably the worst poker mistake you can make. It worked for villian, but this is a money printing spot, that you can actually ob the set of aces, ak, etc, and they call ob with an ace with no kicker or kj, k6s. I don't think theoratically there is wrong with the line, but this exploit is probably the biggest error EV-wise live play do, and you should adjust to whales
Playing live the push looks bluffy like you can't win unless you push. That's why it works when you have a monster and get paid. I would bet 800. It looks like pure value.
Sounds like the reg picked something and called the clock to giver villain a tell?
if hero is repping a strong Ace doesnt the king on the flop and queen on the turn make it least likely he has a strong ace?
It reduces the amount of available combos of both from 12 to 9.
That was awful quick to call the clock on somebody for a cash game. Was he a friend of the villains trying to tell him to call?
It was probably a lot longer than a minute
Seems like the hero is lying. I have never seen anyone calling clock so fast. Probably the guy was tanking over 1 min, which calling a clock is justified.
I don't say anything...then next time that dude takes more than 20 seconds I call the clock and stare daggers at him...yeah I'm the passive aggressive dude that rolls like that.
wonder what % of the player pool is capable of thinking that KQ is a good blocking combination to bluff catch here. i would guess
I agree. That was my thought. Giving waaaay too much credit.
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just fold the crap on flop! dammit! Missed it by miles...then, going against two opponents of which one is initial pf raiser, with two *tall* (lol) cards on board... this is just a disaster continuing betting.
Moreover, if called by anybody, then...slow down turn. Simply, the opponent is not going to be afraid of "Q", since he wasn't afraid of two other monsters already. So, turn bet is sure call!
River shove is a clear sign of bluffing. Representing a monster hand is not going to work, as a monster would not shove overbet. Neither a pair or two pairs of A. So: the only option that's left is: a _"missed everything possible"_ hand.
Ohh, yeah...after called clock, advising the floor is irrelevant to V's river call for the reasons given above.
EDIT: _Fold crap on flop_ used as an expression; in this case: check crap back, applies.
This is my local casino I was wondering if a call would ever come in lol. Im a tournament grinder and never had anything scummy like that happen to me as far as the clock call. As far as getting called off on the river by a marginal hand that adds up😂
Solver says overbearing the flop
Because of which hearts are on board, opponent never gets here with QX or KX, therefore opponent always has AX or better giving QX the exact same amount of showdown value as 8 hi, none, making QX a much better bluff candidate than missed hearts, QJs and QTs should be our only bluffs here, blasting 3 streets with 8 high is way overbluffing, some might consider it punting, especially if you only value shove KK and not AK, you should be value shoving AK+, when people see you overbet and show down value they'll be less likely to hero you down after
Yea I agree that an 800-1200 bet gets more folds than an all in. That’s still a horrible call imo by HJ considering how many bluffs you’re still losing to
Oh well! If you hit your flush you were going to go bust anyway.
Ace deuce. Wow. To a three barrel and raise pre. This is why poker is a thing.
wat. villain called a 5x open pf with A2s then called a 3bet closing the action. hes obviously never folding flop or turn and then correctly looked up hero on the river. not saying thats how id always play it but idk his play seems perfectly reasonably to me.
Is this necessary at all, when the table is good? We could just call pre and fold flop to a bet, losing 15. Not the most exciting line, but certainly the most profitable at a table with whales. People call down for their entire stack with top pair no kicker. Wait for value and win. It's that simple
Don't get me wrong, I love taking lines like these when I know my opponents are a little money scared or see me as a nit, but never ever against such terrible players
Exactly. Hero hasnt learned this yet.
@@webguy943 well people don't like to play 'boring' winning poker I guess
I have to agree
This is a punt. Dont care about structure and ranges. Playing 2/3 and trying to bluff weak players in 3k pots isn’t where the money is. Guy calls with a2. This is a value table after they call make hands and bet big.
Turn is an over bet turn $500 to size for a River shove.
Just curious....4 handed in a sit n go $150 ....blinds are 1/2k...button jams 35k ..shes low stack..i have 55k (2nd )in the SB and have AQ ....snap call right ???
60 Seconds calls the clock??? I would have been Irate! that is Way to dam early.
A big bet looks more like bluff or nuts. So you could imagine that it is 50/50 and then a call is good in the long run.
But a bet 50-80% of the pot looks more like a value bet? And if Fi thinks that way, he should fold A2 when you bluff?
Overbet in this situation was a mistake.
What a station. Keep playing with him. Start playing unbalanced and take him to value town
Personally, i never make a comment when there is big action. Especially when not in the hand. I dont want the "blame" real or imagined. But id for sure call the clock on this guy every chance i got. Usually if one player is aggravatingly slow, others will verbalize displeasure. Somehow. Caller makes this sound like it just came out of the blue. Sounds like a jerk move, as presented. Otherwise, i agree on the river sizing. 800 to 900.
Unpopular opinion: Put a clock at every table, give every player a button to start it counting down from say 80 seconds. Dealer has the stop/reset button. Let's play poker. The caller is suggesting that the MORE time we give villain, the WORSE decision he'll make? And that's the default mode you want?? - given that sometimes you'll face the decision & sometimes you'll be out of the hand?
Yea i would have bet 800-900. Make it look like i want a call n its for value. I see many players going all in n a lot of times its a bluff.
Also depends what profile of villain is he a donk? A nit? If hes a donk theres no way im 3, barreling here. C-bet n if villain calls give up n check.
Playing this deep in low stakes is crazy. You bet over 100bb on the turn with a naked flush draw, why 😭😭 these players dont have a fold button
Over 400bb on the river, dont do this kids.
Yeah don't call the clock in a cash game if you aren't in the hand.
How bout no. It's my right to do. If you're wasting time, I'm calling clock. Your cards aren't going to improve after 2 minutes and you aren't actually covering any new bases. Get over it, Nancy.
@@snex000you would never be allowed to play in the private games around here.
@@jacobpotter2237 Oh no I won't get cheated by a bunch of scumbags and have to play in a public casino with 200 tables and constant fish punting stacks 24/7 whatever will I do?