I got blown out on this game. I almost got the second one right, but number 1 sounded so certain of her answers. My favorite part of the show is that it was broadcast the day my domestic partner, who passed away almost ten months ago, was born.
In the past year, we've lost not only Polly Bergen and Jayne Meadows, but now Betsy Palmer, too. Betsy was really the last of the surviving regular panel members from the classic Goodson-Todman shows (in her case, on "I've Got a Secret"), making this especially sad for us fans of these programs. In tribute to her memory, today I'm posting the three episodes where she was on the panel of TTTT. Not the happiest note to start the channel off with, but as I've said in these situations in the past, I always think it's better to watch these shows and remember the joy these performers brought to us, rather than our just feeling sad about their passing. I sincerely believe that this is what they would have wanted. As a result of this unexpected deviation from schedule, regular postings to the new TTTT channel will begin tomorrow. -------------------------- To stay up to date with postings, please consider supporting the TTTT channel by subscribing. The TTTT channel will feature all available episodes of the nighttime CBS series that ran from 1956 to 1968, with a new show posted every weekday in original broadcast order. You can click here to subscribe: ruclips.net/channel/UCZkBUfTQ_tmKAlUV_sQqrTQ Join our Facebook group for TTTT-- great discussions, photos, etc, and great people! facebook.com/groups/718020231652577/
+Bob Sewvello You are correct, sir. And let's hope you didn't just kill him, by pointing out that fact. The last time I saw Orson Bean (real name Dallas Frederick Burrows, and a first cousin, twice-removed of 30th President of the United States Calvin Coolidge) in a new television production was an episode of "Two and a Half Men," now a decade ago. However, I watched a rebroadcast of the Goodson-Todman oldieweds' game show "Tattletales" a few weeks ago (on Buzzr TV) that featured Mr. Bean and his then-wife (second of three) Carolyn Maxwell. I recommend a hard-to-find film in which Mr. Bean has a small, but interesting role, 1982's "Forty Deuce," based on the 1981 off-off-Broadway play "Forty-Deuce" by Alan Bowne, about male hustlers in Times Square circa 1981 B.D. (Before Disney), which starred a then-still-largely-unknown Kevin Bacon in its debut cast. The film version, which also starred Bacon, was directed by onetime Andy Warhol business manager Paul Morrissey, also the man who discovered and responsible for the signing (to M-G-M Records) of the avant-garde rock band The Velvet Underground, which made a star of guitarist-singer-songwriter Lou Reed.
SaveThe TPC No, by his looks. ;) When it came to the accent, I wasn't sure if it was him or the Swedish guy, but decided who it had to be, both because he looked typical Norwegian (for his generation) and because of his legs. The way he stood in the beginning, showed legs of a typical ski jumper, as I've learned to recognize them. ;)
SuperWinterborn Lucky you! I wish I could say my brother looked like (fill the name of any matinee idol of the 50s)--but alas and alack, he looks more like Victor Buono! Betsy Palmer was another stunning Czech-American--along with Kim Novak.
I love Betsy Palmer! First saw her in Friday the 13th, (I was born in 1977) but looked into her earlier films/tv afterwards. She is a beautiful lady always!!!
This is only conjecture, but I would imagine this episode was the least viewed (live) of that season of TTTT since it aired on New Year's eve, and in those days many more folks went out to celebrate than do today.
Don Ameche was impressive to me on these shows. I only knew him when he was older (Trading Places, etc.). Smart, and seemed like a good guy. I especially liked the episode where 2 of his daughters were contestants.
SaveThe TPC Almost definitely. Video tape had only been around for just a year, and at this point wouldn't have been used for such a trivial thing [to the network suits] as an ordinary panel show.
In the 1950s, TTTT was produced at CBS Studio 59 (now the Brooks Atkinson Theater) just off Broadway on West 47th Street. This was also the location of "What's My Line" and "I've Got A Secret".
It was strange hearing #3 in Game 1 refer to cable television in 1957. I guess I'm just surprised cable TV was a thing that early in the history of television.
This was a different form of cable TV. In remote towns, they build a very tall TV tower and connect all the homes to the high TV tower by cable since an individual home cannot get the TV signal using a roof antenna.
What is odd is that Number 2 spelunker was the only one who answered Don Ameche’s question about guacharo correctly (a bird) but then he voted for Number 1 who said it was a blind lizard.
And then with the ski jumpers, Number 1 answered Ameche’s question correctly about ski jump near Munich (Garmisch) but then Don voted for someone else. I wonder if someone fed Fon the questions because he didn’t seem to vote based on the answers.
@@mattwc4394 No, the questions were not fed to the panelists. They make notes as the affidavit is read and based on answers given to the other panelists. Producer Willie Stein was in charge of briefing the challengers, and often did such a good job that the panel was totally skunked It all depended on how convincing the imposters were. While the real person had to tell the truth, that didn't mean that the imposters couldn't. In fact, it helped if they did, rather than give obviously false information; it made them more convincing. So just because Mr. Samuelsteun gave the right answer, that didn't mean he wasn't an imposter.
It's not odd at all. A panelist can ask a challenger to explain what something is (in this case, the quacharo) without actually knowing the real answer. So Mr. Ameche likely thought that #1 was giving the correct answer.
(I must admit that I have started cheating. Before each game I sneak at the end to found out who is the real contestant, then I can concentrate on the show without getting confused.)
Johan Bengtsson I cheated too, When they had the cave explorer on. The first question was "What are gacheros?" I googled it and found that only #2 had the correct answer.
mh K I couldn't understand what he was saying well enough to figure out how to spell "gacheros!" I have not been cheating, and I am almost always wrong about who is telling the truth. I usually think it's #3 for some reason, but I'm usually wrong. I always kind of want to watch the whole show over again after I know the answer to see if anything becomes clear in hindsight, but I rarely have enough time to do that. I have to admit that I am always happy when the person who got no votes at all turns out to be the right one. It's not that I'm rooting against the panel or anything, but I always feel sorry for the person who gets no votes, so when that person turns out to be the truth teller, then I have no need to feel sorry for anybody! *+Johan Bengtsson* Did the #3 ski jumper say he was from Sweden? Could you tell by the way he talked that he was Swedish rather than Norwegian?
SaveThe TPC No I couldn't tell he was from Sweden rather than from Norway. He spoke good English to my ears maybe a tiny difference in the "melody" of the speech but not that I thought of it.
Johan Bengtsson He was Swedish, I think. Holger Hansson, working in restaurant "Stockholm" in NYC. If he had been Norwegian, he would probably have mentioned it or Collyer would have done. Remember them laughing when Don Ameche said "the other two looked too Swedish " when he voted for No 3? Could be because they knew that HE was the Swedish one. ;) But, of course, I can't be sure. He _could_ have been Norwegian. (Although his first name was Danish, his accent wasn't Danish at all).
The panel did not have a good night. Betsy Palmer is stunningly gorgeous. Thanks for the video.
Celebrity Guests:
1. Betsy Palmer
2. Don Ameche
3. Kitty Carlisle
4. Hy Gardner
Host:
Bud Collyer
I got blown out on this game. I almost got the second one right, but number 1 sounded so certain of her answers. My favorite part of the show is that it was broadcast the day my domestic partner, who passed away almost ten months ago, was born.
In the past year, we've lost not only Polly Bergen and Jayne Meadows, but now Betsy Palmer, too. Betsy was really the last of the surviving regular panel members from the classic Goodson-Todman shows (in her case, on "I've Got a Secret"), making this especially sad for us fans of these programs.
In tribute to her memory, today I'm posting the three episodes where she was on the panel of TTTT. Not the happiest note to start the channel off with, but as I've said in these situations in the past, I always think it's better to watch these shows and remember the joy these performers brought to us, rather than our just feeling sad about their passing. I sincerely believe that this is what they would have wanted.
As a result of this unexpected deviation from schedule, regular postings to the new TTTT channel will begin tomorrow.
--------------------------
To stay up to date with postings, please consider supporting the TTTT channel by subscribing. The TTTT channel will feature all available episodes of the nighttime CBS series that ran from 1956 to 1968, with a new show posted every weekday in original broadcast order. You can click here to subscribe:
ruclips.net/channel/UCZkBUfTQ_tmKAlUV_sQqrTQ
Join our Facebook group for TTTT-- great discussions, photos, etc, and great people! facebook.com/groups/718020231652577/
Orson Bean is still alive at 87.
+Bob Sewvello You are correct, sir. And let's hope you didn't just kill him, by pointing out that fact.
The last time I saw Orson Bean (real name Dallas Frederick Burrows, and a first cousin, twice-removed of 30th President of the United States Calvin Coolidge) in a new television production was an episode of "Two and a Half Men," now a decade ago.
However, I watched a rebroadcast of the Goodson-Todman oldieweds' game show "Tattletales" a few weeks ago (on Buzzr TV) that featured Mr. Bean and his then-wife (second of three) Carolyn Maxwell.
I recommend a hard-to-find film in which Mr. Bean has a small, but interesting role, 1982's "Forty Deuce," based on the 1981 off-off-Broadway play "Forty-Deuce" by Alan Bowne, about male hustlers in Times Square circa 1981 B.D. (Before Disney), which starred a then-still-largely-unknown Kevin Bacon in its debut cast. The film version, which also starred Bacon, was directed by onetime Andy Warhol business manager Paul Morrissey, also the man who discovered and responsible for the signing (to M-G-M Records) of the avant-garde rock band The Velvet Underground, which made a star of guitarist-singer-songwriter Lou Reed.
I must say, Betsy Palmer was a realy beauty! :)
SuperWinterborn
Could you tell who the real Norwegian was by the way he spoke, SW?
SaveThe TPC No, by his looks. ;) When it came to the accent, I wasn't sure if it was him or the Swedish guy, but decided who it had to be, both because he looked typical Norwegian (for his generation) and because of his legs. The way he stood in the beginning, showed legs of a typical ski jumper, as I've learned to recognize them. ;)
SuperWinterborn I know Betsy Palmer is gone--but I'm still in love with her breathtaking beauty, albeit posthumously!
519DJW In these episodes she looks like the beauty of our family, namely my younger sister. I've also noticed they're both born in November. :)
SuperWinterborn Lucky you! I wish I could say my brother looked like (fill the name of any matinee idol of the 50s)--but alas and alack, he looks more like Victor Buono! Betsy Palmer was another stunning Czech-American--along with Kim Novak.
I love Betsy Palmer! First saw her in Friday the 13th, (I was born in 1977) but looked into her earlier films/tv afterwards. She is a beautiful lady always!!!
This is only conjecture, but I would imagine this episode was the least viewed (live) of that season of TTTT since it aired on New Year's eve, and in those days many more folks went out to celebrate than do today.
Betsy is GEORGIOUS!
Don Ameche was impressive to me on these shows. I only knew him when he was older (Trading Places, etc.). Smart, and seemed like a good guy. I especially liked the episode where 2 of his daughters were contestants.
Must've been tough getting out of the studio that night, as it was just steps away from Times Square!
LandondeeL
Was the show actually broadcast live at this point?
SaveThe TPC Almost definitely. Video tape had only been around for just a year, and at this point wouldn't have been used for such a trivial thing [to the network suits] as an ordinary panel show.
+SaveThe TPC The show was probably replayed via kinescope for the west coast.
In the 1950s, TTTT was produced at CBS Studio 59 (now the Brooks Atkinson Theater) just off Broadway on West 47th Street. This was also the location of "What's My Line" and "I've Got A Secret".
It was strange hearing #3 in Game 1 refer to cable television in 1957. I guess I'm just surprised cable TV was a thing that early in the history of television.
This was a different form of cable TV. In remote towns, they build a very tall TV tower and connect all the homes to the high TV tower by cable since an individual home cannot get the TV signal using a roof antenna.
Man #2 in Game #1
Lady #2 in Game #2
Man #1 in Game #3
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@@peternagy-im4beYOU are the REAL TROLLER, so keep your comments to yourself.👹
What is odd is that Number 2 spelunker was the only one who answered Don Ameche’s question about guacharo correctly (a bird) but then he voted for Number 1 who said it was a blind lizard.
And then with the ski jumpers, Number 1 answered Ameche’s question correctly about ski jump near Munich (Garmisch) but then Don voted for someone else. I wonder if someone fed Fon the questions because he didn’t seem to vote based on the answers.
@@mattwc4394 No, the questions were not fed to the panelists. They make notes as the affidavit is read and based on answers given to the other panelists. Producer Willie Stein was in charge of briefing the challengers, and often did such a good job that the panel was totally skunked It all depended on how convincing the imposters were. While the real person had to tell the truth, that didn't mean that the imposters couldn't. In fact, it helped if they did, rather than give obviously false information; it made them more convincing. So just because Mr. Samuelsteun gave the right answer, that didn't mean he wasn't an imposter.
It's not odd at all. A panelist can ask a challenger to explain what something is (in this case, the quacharo) without actually knowing the real answer. So Mr. Ameche likely thought that #1 was giving the correct answer.
Betsy Palmers greatest role was that of Mrs. Vorhees. You know, Jasons' mummy.
And she only took the role to buy a new car!!!
(I must admit that I have started cheating. Before each game I sneak at the end to found out who is the real contestant, then I can concentrate on the show without getting confused.)
Johan Bengtsson I cheated too, When they had the cave explorer on. The first question was "What are gacheros?" I googled it and found that only #2 had the correct answer.
mh K Your way was more sophisticated than mine.
mh K
I couldn't understand what he was saying well enough to figure out how to spell "gacheros!" I have not been cheating, and I am almost always wrong about who is telling the truth. I usually think it's #3 for some reason, but I'm usually wrong. I always kind of want to watch the whole show over again after I know the answer to see if anything becomes clear in hindsight, but I rarely have enough time to do that. I have to admit that I am always happy when the person who got no votes at all turns out to be the right one. It's not that I'm rooting against the panel or anything, but I always feel sorry for the person who gets no votes, so when that person turns out to be the truth teller, then I have no need to feel sorry for anybody!
*+Johan Bengtsson* Did the #3 ski jumper say he was from Sweden? Could you tell by the way he talked that he was Swedish rather than Norwegian?
SaveThe TPC No I couldn't tell he was from Sweden rather than from Norway. He spoke good English to my ears maybe a tiny difference in the "melody" of the speech but not that I thought of it.
Johan Bengtsson He was Swedish, I think. Holger Hansson, working in restaurant "Stockholm" in NYC. If he had been Norwegian, he would probably have mentioned it or Collyer would have done. Remember them laughing when Don Ameche said "the other two looked too Swedish " when he voted for No 3? Could be because they knew that HE was the Swedish one. ;) But, of course, I can't be sure. He _could_ have been Norwegian. (Although his first name was Danish, his accent wasn't Danish at all).