lol it feels like clara is much more consistent if you can manage good uptime on her ultimate since it doesn't matter who gets hit. E5 clara atm so just 1 more to go!
@@notme8652 Nah, the Aggro of Each Path it is established as: Hunt 75 Aggro, Harmony and Nihility, Abundance 100 Aggro, Destruction and Erudition 125, Preservation 150 (If you add Taunt and depending on the base effect of that Taunt + RES of the taunt) Could reach more. Preservation as MC Fire Taunt Skill or March 7 Shield Taunt on herself. It is just Rng + a "Luck" :P
@@blueberryblitz77 you have to specifically use it just before or during an enemy turn so that they hit you, otherwise a weaker version of the counter goes off you also have to ignore when trash mobs attack you to time it so the big boss or elite is the one taking all the ult damage
And putting the really squishy character in the middle adds to DOUBLE BAD TIME. Granted Tingyub might regenerate energy faster that way, but i won't think about putting her in danger like that 😅
I would like to test Yunli with clara and this is my idea: 2 and 3 position in formation will be taken by clara and Yunli to increase their counter attack chance when attack by enemies since many enemies in this game have aoe in single attack and if the enemies attack the middle where yunli and Clara at that will trigger double counter and even if thw enemies didn't hit the middle them will face one counter aleast. For 1 or 4 I think healer like huohuo will be good so clara and Yunli didn't get effects that make them couldn't counter and final slot are pretty tricking but Tinyuan will be good choice to increase energy refills but robin also good choice but I don't have robin
1. you'd need Robin or Sparkle as the buffer to have a snowball's chance in hell, otherwise one hits like a wet noodle and the other straight up heals the enemies like they're eating a Dehya ult. Teamwide buffing is not something Tingyun does well, you're high on copium if you think she'll get anything done in dual DPS, Pela would probably do better by buffing both and saving SP that Tingyun would need to spend on turn 1. 2. this is incredibly enemy dependent, best-case scenario is they spam cleave and AoE so Clara and Yunli are both returning fire on every hit. Damage will be barely any better than just going hypercarry with one of them, even if I assume none of the enemies have single-target attacks- oh nevermind, your Tingyun's dead to a single-target attack that Yunli didn't have enough energy to parry. Once enemies start focusing their damage rather than nuking the whole field, Clara and Yunli start fighting over who gets to counter what, and neither will get the energy they need to do their rotations correctly. You'll drop Clara ult uptime, whiff a parry, and suddenly your buffer is dead. 3. Don't even get me started on SP economy, if Clara is using basic attacks without full ownership of Tingyun's ults you can kiss your Svarog death beams goodbye. Look, the idea doesn't sound bad on paper, I get it. Herta Himeko is still meta in PF, Jingliu Blade is one of Blade's better teams, Ratio loves his RAT squad, DoTcheron is insane, and HMC does about as much damage as Firefly does when they're paired for Super Break. Dual DPS can work when you have mechanics that allies are good at triggering. But Clara doesn't have anything that she needs an ally to do for Svarog to melt something's face, Yunli doesn't have an arbitrary condition that she needs a DPS to fulfill before she can drop the sun on you. These units have no synergy, plain and simple. They're going to step on each other's toes, fighting over buffs, attacks, and this is assuming both have the same strong relics. Because it was hard enough getting one 40CV glove to put on someone, guess I'll just grab another from my bottomless box of max refreshed relics so neither unit is underbuilt. This is basically saying you should put Seele and Jing Yuan in the same team. And hey, let's think about this. Seele can mop up the mooks while Jing Yuan focuses his lightning lord into the boss. It should definitely work, right? why didn't anyone play them together then? SP economy, relic farming constraints, and the team fundamentally not working the way I claimed it would work. Likewise, this team with Clara and Yunli simply won't perform nearly as well as you imagine it will. I hope someone does pair them together before the patch goes live so you can see my point. Feel free to pester some of the creators with the early access 1 week from patch drop if the leakers don't get your message, Our General and Mr. 8-cycle want to see Yunli do worse numbers than they do so they can feel better about themselves.
@@Riealomea I mean you can definitely do it if you really want to, kinda a waste not to use them on separate teams but it's your account so I really don't care what you do with it. I'm just talking numbers and practicality, people 0-cycle with Arlan so the game clearly isn't hard enough to warrant taking everything that seriously. And yes, Sparkle is about your only chance here if you want them to do anything. Abuse the extra 1 turn of Hanabi's E duration and try to push both units up during the fight, it's how I play her with Herta and Himeko since it maximizes her AV manipulation without requiring dank speed tuning and ensures both DPS have the crit buff once their ults are loaded. Don't fire an ult unless you have Sparkle's E buff and it feels like you have another Robin on your account
She has 2 charges of her ult however it is not like argenti where having both charges leads to empowered ult. It’s mainly there so you can time your counters without overflowing with energy and feeling like you have to use it to be energy efficient
This I believe is e0 Yunli and no change is made to her ult even with eidolons (aside from maybe more dmg but I wouldn't know cuz I didn't read them all) The way her ult works tho is that she has 240 max energy but her ult only consumes 120 So you can store two ult charges and use them back to back if you want It doesn't work like Argenti's enhanced ult
in this team, sparkle is better because she can generate SP to huohuo & tingyun, that makes they can use their skills every turn to accelerate whole team's ult robin is for FUA team which including 2~3 FUA characters, but yes, you can use robin instead of sparkle because it won't change the results in MOC
If you missed the ult timing, it will increases by 1 and used the weaker counter (1/2) If you missed again, it will increases by 1 again and since its 2/2 you will uses the stronger counter (and reset to 0/2)
@@ndnd7614RM has some anti synergy with characters that focus on counters
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If you lose enough time to have Bronya at E6 then yes Robin/Ruan Mei work too and a more f2p version with Hanya should work but you will have to deal with timing the ult better which is not hard to do
@@Nakuweed-samurai I meant Clara’s or Aeon. But in general S5 Aeon is better than S1 Clara’s cone but superimpositions change that, but even S1 Clara cone is worth using if you’re using Aeon on someone like Dan Heng IL, Jingliu or Firefly as they would benefit more from it
Still version 2, she could be even stronger. Although I think they're gonna make future 2.x dpses weaker than their poster girl, expect the stronger characters in world 4.
Honestly, the gap between huohuo and aventurine for her is insane. You’d be better swapping tingyun for Jiaoqiu/Pela/Sparkle, since the damage increase is way better. At least as of right now that’s what her calcs have shown, she’s pretty much glued to huohuo and Robin.
The battle just started and the first one to get attacked is Tingyun😭😭😭
YOu mean TANKyun ?
Lore accurate
@HandOn145fr, there's a destruction unit with taunt. And the ones who keeps getting targeted are the harmony 😂
Ah yes, a destruction character that has the highest aggro value paired a light cone that adds more aggro:
Tingyun
i Know its all mock but it is Rng + some % of "Luck" = 99% VS 1%, that 1% most of the time can beat the 99% :P
lol it feels like clara is much more consistent if you can manage good uptime on her ultimate since it doesn't matter who gets hit. E5 clara atm so just 1 more to go!
Im convinced tingyun has secretly higher priority
@@notme8652 Nah, the Aggro of Each Path it is established as: Hunt 75 Aggro, Harmony and Nihility, Abundance 100 Aggro, Destruction and Erudition 125, Preservation 150 (If you add Taunt and depending on the base effect of that Taunt + RES of the taunt) Could reach more. Preservation as MC Fire Taunt Skill or March 7 Shield Taunt on herself.
It is just Rng + a "Luck" :P
@@VDTT5 erudition is 75
Strongest taunter in history vs strongest taunter of today:
You mean Boothill or fire mc ?
@@Nakuweed-samurai He means Tingyun.
0:07 Not even 10 sec in and we can already tell it’s bad idea someone have more aggro value than Yunli with LC
fr they need to make her lc's taunt value guaranteed instead of chances
Just tingyun doing destruction things...
@@zxcentsensei.sundercan always wear EHR body lol 😂
The aggro system in this game was always ass. Hence why Clara is such a pain to main dps.
@@Bos_Meong taunt value isnt affected by ehr, and her taunt debuff is guaranteed
You're the first person I've seen to correctly use Yunli's ult
minus that fuck up at the end of wave 1 lmao
Yeah, they're not maximizing her ult very well
@@yourcutemc you mean this leaker or others?
wait how do you use it 🧍🏿
@@blueberryblitz77 you have to specifically use it just before or during an enemy turn so that they hit you, otherwise a weaker version of the counter goes off
you also have to ignore when trash mobs attack you to time it so the big boss or elite is the one taking all the ult damage
Can't wait for 4.0 characters doing 10 mil damage in beta and people calling it mid 💀
Metaslave route
@@kuro8151what do you consider as metaslave
I mean what do you expect from hsr metaslaves lmao
Yunli working so hard to taunt while Tingyun just standing there showing why she has the the highest aggro level
They should really add that time freeze feature to PC as well, would make using her ult correctly a lot more convenient
It's a controller thing, it works on pc too
@@MrGoodra17 really? Still, I see no reason not to add it to keyboard.
Finally a showcase without ROBIN
Tingyu full aggro vs yunli with her's lightcone. It thill hitting tingyu ass😂
Tingyun still has the highest taunt value 😮
2:49 She using her ult 3 times bruhhh
EVO moment #37 for turn-based RPGs
@@StriderHoang I still remember that moment, how time flies fast 😢
Putting Destruction units in the corner is always a certified *BAD TIME*
And putting the really squishy character in the middle adds to DOUBLE BAD TIME. Granted Tingyub might regenerate energy faster that way, but i won't think about putting her in danger like that 😅
What if Yunli's kit is given to 5 star Tingyun, imagine the aggro💀
Clara about to get powercreeped so hard (Us Clara mains are in shambles)
its fine big sword will never replace big robot
I plan to play both with Robin and huohuo
Love seeing a claymore on Honkai
Finally the team i have waiting for
Pls do Yunli + Jade + March 7th New + Huohuo
Spd Yunli? What a random ahh team unless you just wanna see both M7 and Jade in the same team
0:26 me when her drip marketing dropped
might get her on her rerun, could be good sub dps for dan heng il just for fun
i need to know how he get her?
That ult generation is insane
Everyone else : Speaking
Yunli : Mute
Bruh this is normal in beta test :/
Yunli with her silence rizz
@@Nakuweed-samurai I know
I’ll pull for yunli and put her on a team with clara, robin, and aventurine
Question: Can you make the other new 5 star a hyper carry, or do you HAVE tu use him with Acheron?
What is that light cone on tingyun?
What speed is the sparkle in this video?
I would like to test Yunli with clara and this is my idea:
2 and 3 position in formation will be taken by clara and Yunli to increase their counter attack chance when attack by enemies since many enemies in this game have aoe in single attack and if the enemies attack the middle where yunli and Clara at that will trigger double counter and even if thw enemies didn't hit the middle them will face one counter aleast.
For 1 or 4 I think healer like huohuo will be good so clara and Yunli didn't get effects that make them couldn't counter and final slot are pretty tricking but Tinyuan will be good choice to increase energy refills but robin also good choice but I don't have robin
lmfao
1. you'd need Robin or Sparkle as the buffer to have a snowball's chance in hell, otherwise one hits like a wet noodle and the other straight up heals the enemies like they're eating a Dehya ult. Teamwide buffing is not something Tingyun does well, you're high on copium if you think she'll get anything done in dual DPS, Pela would probably do better by buffing both and saving SP that Tingyun would need to spend on turn 1.
2. this is incredibly enemy dependent, best-case scenario is they spam cleave and AoE so Clara and Yunli are both returning fire on every hit. Damage will be barely any better than just going hypercarry with one of them, even if I assume none of the enemies have single-target attacks- oh nevermind, your Tingyun's dead to a single-target attack that Yunli didn't have enough energy to parry. Once enemies start focusing their damage rather than nuking the whole field, Clara and Yunli start fighting over who gets to counter what, and neither will get the energy they need to do their rotations correctly. You'll drop Clara ult uptime, whiff a parry, and suddenly your buffer is dead.
3. Don't even get me started on SP economy, if Clara is using basic attacks without full ownership of Tingyun's ults you can kiss your Svarog death beams goodbye.
Look, the idea doesn't sound bad on paper, I get it. Herta Himeko is still meta in PF, Jingliu Blade is one of Blade's better teams, Ratio loves his RAT squad, DoTcheron is insane, and HMC does about as much damage as Firefly does when they're paired for Super Break. Dual DPS can work when you have mechanics that allies are good at triggering. But Clara doesn't have anything that she needs an ally to do for Svarog to melt something's face, Yunli doesn't have an arbitrary condition that she needs a DPS to fulfill before she can drop the sun on you. These units have no synergy, plain and simple. They're going to step on each other's toes, fighting over buffs, attacks, and this is assuming both have the same strong relics. Because it was hard enough getting one 40CV glove to put on someone, guess I'll just grab another from my bottomless box of max refreshed relics so neither unit is underbuilt.
This is basically saying you should put Seele and Jing Yuan in the same team. And hey, let's think about this. Seele can mop up the mooks while Jing Yuan focuses his lightning lord into the boss. It should definitely work, right? why didn't anyone play them together then? SP economy, relic farming constraints, and the team fundamentally not working the way I claimed it would work. Likewise, this team with Clara and Yunli simply won't perform nearly as well as you imagine it will. I hope someone does pair them together before the patch goes live so you can see my point. Feel free to pester some of the creators with the early access 1 week from patch drop if the leakers don't get your message, Our General and Mr. 8-cycle want to see Yunli do worse numbers than they do so they can feel better about themselves.
@@Guns-R-Us_ it's just my hope but I do have Sparkle well most of limited 5 star expect for robin and Boothill because I can't risk it for firefly 😅
@@Riealomea I mean you can definitely do it if you really want to, kinda a waste not to use them on separate teams but it's your account so I really don't care what you do with it. I'm just talking numbers and practicality, people 0-cycle with Arlan so the game clearly isn't hard enough to warrant taking everything that seriously. And yes, Sparkle is about your only chance here if you want them to do anything. Abuse the extra 1 turn of Hanabi's E duration and try to push both units up during the fight, it's how I play her with Herta and Himeko since it maximizes her AV manipulation without requiring dank speed tuning and ensures both DPS have the crit buff once their ults are loaded. Don't fire an ult unless you have Sparkle's E buff and it feels like you have another Robin on your account
@@Guns-R-Us_ Haha that's the point I try to find fun team to play and try to beat content moc and others like that since it's just a game and for fun.
Theres a new harmony lightcone?- WHY DOES IT HAVE THE HUNT MARCH ON IT 😭
I know for a fact that her autoplay gonna be terrible, unless they purposely programed it not to
its not that bad if you turn on the manual ultimate since you can still time her ult
@@Bos_MeongNo way i still have to press her ult, just let hoyo fix her auto play instead.
does she has 2 stacks of ults just like argenti? or is it from her eidolons?
it's from base kit
She has 2 charges of her ult however it is not like argenti where having both charges leads to empowered ult. It’s mainly there so you can time your counters without overflowing with energy and feeling like you have to use it to be energy efficient
This I believe is e0 Yunli and no change is made to her ult even with eidolons (aside from maybe more dmg but I wouldn't know cuz I didn't read them all)
The way her ult works tho is that she has 240 max energy but her ult only consumes 120
So you can store two ult charges and use them back to back if you want
It doesn't work like Argenti's enhanced ult
There better be more detailed sweeping attacks to tht ult before this beta concludes ALSO WHY FOXIAN n xianzhou chars
0:33 with all that agro and the automaton still choose to hit Houhou
Can I use Robin instead of sparkle??
in this team, sparkle is better because she can generate SP to huohuo & tingyun, that makes they can use their skills every turn to accelerate whole team's ult
robin is for FUA team which including 2~3 FUA characters, but yes, you can use robin instead of sparkle because it won't change the results in MOC
What does the 0/2 counter under Yunli's icon represent?
If you missed the ult timing, it will increases by 1 and used the weaker counter (1/2)
If you missed again, it will increases by 1 again and since its 2/2 you will uses the stronger counter (and reset to 0/2)
@@indras146Oh I see it now. Thanks.
Ting Yung with a Hunt LC? its effect dont apply lol
Nah that's a harmony LC. Kinda weird to put March 7th in it tho
That's harmony lightcone dude, bros really yapping without knowing something
Is this the best of her hypercarry comp? I'm considering either pulling her or jade to help me with pure fiction coz fuck that mode
Rlly? PF? Could the answer be any clearer? Regardless I myself am contemplating whether to pull or skip her for Feixiao
@@sin9148 you didn't answer any of my questions
@@aurum.i the answer is so clear that you don't even need me to say it
About this being Yunli's best hypercarry team? Perhaps
Robin is better than sparkle, i believe
3:10 three times?
Could you possibly replace sparkle with bronya?
(I lost the 50/50 on sparkle)
unfortunately bronya buff wont do anything since it only last for 1 turn
Only if your Bronya E6 but you can replace her with robin.
Use robin instead or Ruan Mei
@@ndnd7614RM has some anti synergy with characters that focus on counters
If you lose enough time to have Bronya at E6 then yes
Robin/Ruan Mei work too and a more f2p version with Hanya should work but you will have to deal with timing the ult better which is not hard to do
Seems like Yunli's aggro is non-existant, they still hit Tingyun lmao
Why she's not fire?
The damage is so much lower without Robin. Robin truly is one of a kind.
LC f2p?
Clara’s or S5 Aeon (herta store)
@@Benjobrosjust called it aeon lc bc it good almost every destruction not just clara
@@Nakuweed-samurai I meant Clara’s or Aeon. But in general S5 Aeon is better than S1 Clara’s cone but superimpositions change that, but even S1 Clara cone is worth using if you’re using Aeon on someone like Dan Heng IL, Jingliu or Firefly as they would benefit more from it
guys yunli or jade
Definitely yunli
Definitely Jade
Definitely skip
Definitely both
The quadrality of man
powercreep at it's finest.... now we're just going to expect every patch if there's a dps they need out damage the last patch...
Except this doesn't even powercreep DHIL right here.
Yunli's dmg isnt even better than Dhil or Jingliu tho. And that's not even comparing her to Boothill, Acheron and Firefly
You mean reverse powercreep🤣
Still version 2, she could be even stronger. Although I think they're gonna make future 2.x dpses weaker than their poster girl, expect the stronger characters in world 4.
@@iloverobinfromarknights hmm true. Tho if I must say, most huge changes occurs on v3 and minor only on v4
pass i need a healer ..im still using natasha 😂😂
Get Gallager bro
2.4 rerun Huohuo
why DMG too LOW ?
300k for you is low ?
@@halulive6538I wouldn't say too low, but it's definitely low. Eat 2 cycles and way too long build up just for 300k.
Yunli is more ulti focus char, her skill and counter scaling is smaller than clara
acheron effect and ff effect everyone keep saying 250-300k dmg is low 😂 all need to be acheron and ff, how stupid this.
@@DaFullo Her gameplay is very easy and doesn’t require much , and she can give that so much dmg . So what else do you want ?
I think they should make her ult feel more satisfy, it's would make her a lot more fun to play.
Unfortunately her gameplay doesn't suit my playstyle. I prefer obliterate enemies even before they take a turn
So im guessing you’re also not into dot characters then?
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Tingyun and huohuo is overkill
try tingyun yunli aventurine and robin
Honestly, the gap between huohuo and aventurine for her is insane. You’d be better swapping tingyun for Jiaoqiu/Pela/Sparkle, since the damage increase is way better.
At least as of right now that’s what her calcs have shown, she’s pretty much glued to huohuo and Robin.
@@tieAcherry101 link to calcs?
2 cycles nice
that’s 2 cycles actually.
2
Thx Japanese
She honestly feels like a skip.
Easy. Skip.
Meanwhile boothill 0 cycles
So boot can 2 man army clear PF? Boot just weaker Version of Firefly lmao
And Yunli still can improve by later version, Boot is dead, kid.
@@tsukishitatsunami2525😂😂🤡
so can she? with a sustain no less
@@tsukishitatsunami2525 idk about weaker
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