The problem with Lorettas is 98% of the people go there for the love of the sport knowing they aren’t going to win or make a living at this sport. The addiction of motocross is what keeps people spending money and racing. Shame on the manufacturers for cheating and treating that kid the way they did. I think pro AMA racing should be stock bikes with suspension And exhaust only. Then we’ll see who the good riders are when the factory rigs roll into these tracks all over the country. We would see how good these factory guys are against local pros that don’t have a fraction of the resources. This might be a comment that most don’t like, but it would bring more local pros into the mix if it wasn’t such an unfair advantage.
Sorry buddy but the industry is destroying itself. Most people would rather practice now than race. Our participation in this sport is necessary for its survival. $10000 bikes that can’t compete against $100000 Bikes make it a clown show, unless your just a spectator. I’m 52 and it’s gotten a lot worse for local guys since the 4 strokes took over.
The simple fact that the Yamaha guy said they couldn't let the bike out there because it had development and stuff in it that was to special and they knew the claiming rule exists is Yamaha cheating on the whole deal.
It's not cheating. You can bring whatever you want from my understanding, as long as its at the correct displacement. You just have to be prepared to loose it for 2x retail of the bike. That's pretty shitty of them for not honoring the deal.
@@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 Deegan had nothing to do with the deal. Deegan doesn’t own the bike, Star racing does. Deegan is just caught in the middle. The kid backed out not because of the Deegans.
It’s funny that people were saying the Deegans and Star were the biggest bullies, but after hearing more of the story from multiple people now. It definitely sounds like Tim Cotter, Matt Walker, Donnie Luce with Yamaha and the unnamed guy are the real bullies that intimidated that kid. Hopefully they make it right with him.
Degas still tried strong arming the kid based on what the actual kid said in a interview. None of this would’ve happened if Deegan didn’t actually contact Star.
@@Randybobandi6969 Contact Star? Lol yeah, I’m sure all the Star staff would have been completely oblivious to the AMA impounding their bike if the Deegans didn’t let them know😂. I’m sure everyone notified their chain of command. The Deegans could have lost their ability to communicate and every one up to Yamaha America would have still heard about this.
@@Randybobandi6969 Deegan never strong armed the kid. All he did was ask the kid why he wanted the bike which I’m sure most fathers in that position would do the same for their kid. Was he not supposed to tell Star? I mean it is their bike after all. After hearing the story from the kid and his engine builder, it’s clear the real people that strong armed him were Tim Cotter, Matt Walker, Donnie Luce with Yamaha and the unnamed guy. Not the Deegan’s. Not Star Racing.
@@thflash09msr Really? Was it Brian's place to go interrogate a kid? How do you think Brian would have acted had it gone the other way and someone had Haiden in a room without Brian and "just asking him why"? I like the Deegan's too, for now, but it absolutely was bullying. Had there been a conversation with all parents included, or it was all adults involved, I might agree more with you, but that is not what happened, and Brian had zero right to do what he did.
Cat is out of the bag, Yamaha bullied their way out of this claim. Sounds like a factory engine they didn't want to lose and bullying the claimant to change his mind was the only way to keep the bike and not get Degan a year ban.
I enjoy when people like Cooksey and Hopper bring out claims and “conspiracies” and everyone shits on them, then it comes out to be FACTS … keep it up Cooksey !
What facts. This engine builder was asked to leave by the ama officials and event director cause he has no reason to even be there so the fact that he is even being interviewed is rubbish. Only reason why cooksey is interviewing him is cause nobody else will give him the time of day cause he just lies and makes up rubbish cause he has a personal vendetta.
@@DaveLad 100% cookie media is just a gossip channel. Nobody will ever talk to him so he gets the neighbor of the guy that knew the riders son to interview lol.
Cooksey is without one of the ONLY real journalists in this sport. He has got the facts, and shone the flashlight on the cockroach in the room. Series has a Claim rule that was in effect... fact, Claim was made... fact, Brennan was harassed and bullied by the "promoters" of the series and the hottest up star's dad(Deegan), to drop the claim... fact, then the support team around Brennan was harassed and bullied by Matt Walker and Yamaha representatives to the point the boy had to drop the claim after being threatened with being canceled from the sport. This is story is just beginning.. and it doesn't look good for Coombs, Cotter, Deegan, Walker, Yamaha, Star Racing and any other goon that is in the "in" cartel and using their power to block any hopeful young racers. The fact that they pulled this stunt at an amateur race shows you that they have no respect for anyone or anything but their bank account, and the "brand" they are building.
I'm convinced that Matt Walker's behavior was way over the top. He sounds like a real piece of work. He needs to go immediately. Career finito. He's lacks the integrity to carry out his trusted duties.
I have had experience with Matt "the legend in his own mind" Walker. The guy is so full of himself that it is actually shockingly hilarious. You don't know whether to take him seriously or laugh your ass off. The guy is border line Psycho.
Great interview. My biggest issue & why I will no longer support Brian is no adult man should ever speak to another man’s child the way he did. We don’t know what exactly he said, we don’t need to, without one of Brennans parents present, Brian or anyone for that matter, should’ve been alone or in a group interrogating him. Punk move B. Punk move! Imagine what B would do if situations were reversed & a group of adults and another riders dad were alone & interrogating Hayden. As a lifelong Yamaha guy, this really disappoints me.
@wile E potential extortion if a dealerships franchise was threatened, a minor being coerced during the claiming process by multiple people as first reported. There are I’m sure probably more. The reason I said potential is because I wasn’t there so it’s hard to know all of the facts. It sure seems like everyone is saying nothing happened but that’s clearly not true. That kid should have that bike in his possession if everyone acted on the up and up!
@wile E Wile, I agree but it’s painfully obvious this kid was forced to rescind his claim by someone that wasn’t him! Secondly, I stand by my use of the word Potentially! Third, I would personally would be going after the dealership at this point to find out what truly happened as to me it seems like he is potentially the key player in sorting out this debacle now.
I have worked with Derek and he is a stand up guy. I had him do my sons valves when I was doing a full rebuild and he does great work. My boy is still riding and racing the bike 2 years later. Derek is easy to work with, easy to get a hold of and a very smart guy. I don’t know if he still does, but he used to do more than just engine work. He used to do suspension as well. Either way, all around good people. I hope this situation helps him and his business grow.
@@CookseyMedia cooksey. What is the remedy to all this if here ever was one. The two motors and let the kid ride the bike like they promised or... The adult behavior in all this is so much like the mob, a shame. Glad you brought this whole thing to light. A true journalist. We need more of these today in the world along with truth and accountability. Brian acting like straight thug.
Unbelievable situation. I appreciate getting to hear this man’s side of it. Especially since he was made the scapegoat in most versions of the story. You can tell he’s being truthful. It’s in his voice. I still have questions though! LOL thank you for the insight Cooksey
Matt should be fired. period. Tim should apologize to the kid. Brian is a liar. The AMA should have the Deeghans and Yamaha pay a major fine for disrespecting the claim rule. And if that claim rule is never applied, the AMA should ammend it or drop it, because this is smoke and mirrors ...
@@jamesadams2334 Okay let's stick to the facts then. The kid dropped the claim out of intimidation and fear of losing his sponsor. He still lost his sponsor....and he didn't get the bike.
@@xafbxmoto269 the kid, his parents and the motor builder planned this. The kid is petty and jealous of deegan. He's not even a top 15 kid. The motor builder wanted a star motor so he could try and make his business better. That's all this was about.
@@fjbfuckjoebiden8548 Derek's motors are fast enough haha he has 6 or 7 titles at Loretta's on his motors. Other then that who cares they should have just given him the bike or not dumped that much money into a build?
Derek and HP Racing Development is a quality company. I have had him work on my sons race bike (Recut for new valves and top end check over). Derek was great to work with and does quality work. I hope he gets some extra business for being in the middle of this mess.
I still don't understand why all the questions about "why"...They can do whatever they want with the bike if they claim it...the rules say you can claim the bike; it doesn't say what you're allowed to do with it after. If he wants to take it apart and blast it on the internet, it's HIS bike to do so lol.
Cooksey is the MAN , Only dude that is not afraid of telling the 100% truth about the industry , Right wrong or indifferent . Calling out the people that deserve it , Propping up the underdogs that do as well. Keep it up my man .
Out of complete spite, I would have bought the bike and followed through with it based upon their behavior. How Yamaha doesn't get sued for malfeasance is beyond me. Completely pathetic to BULLY a 17 year old kid.
This is an enlightened man, he is self aware of his own folleys and tries to empathize with all parties involved. Forgiveness and acceptance is the only solution even if others cannot see it to spite you.
The reach to protect that motor is insane , extremely unprofessional I wish Brennan stuck to his guns and got that bike. Obviously there is space age tech inside that motor
@@jamesadams2334 they actually talk about that and they didn’t put on the best forks for that reason. And how do you know that motor was stock. If it was why was Yamaha so extreme protective of that motor? Like I said the reach to protect that motor is extremely unprofessional mafia style you don’t do that in professional sports IDK I think you missed part of the video
There's absolutely nothing for an engine builder to need to explain or apologize for, even if he did want to see inside the engine of a claimed bike. Even if he had fronted the money. The rule is the rule and the motivation for the claim is of no concern to anyone. Pay the money, take home the bike. Period. Full stop. Yamaha, Star Yamaha, Deegans are behaving like a crime syndicate in all of this. The AMA needs to get ahead of this, stop the retaliations and lop some heads.
Little do you know people can't put money up for you because you can use that to help you if your bike gets claimed by having your friends put offers up so that one person doesn't get the bike lmao it's literally a rule of claiming
Derek's story/perspective and the whole issue underscores how much of a disparity there is in equipment and money spent. It makes competition weak. The people at the top want to protect their edge but it sucks knowing the only kids who have a chance are the chosen ones. So much talent never make it because they didn't have money or they were late bloomers and over looked by the factory teams. Thus we have pro races where the 10th best guy on a 450 gets lapped. As a fan, THAT SUCKS!
Deegan would have beat the kid on any bike. Not that much disparity between bikes but huge talent difference. So the facts are that Yamaha, Star and Deegan still broke no rules, didn't cheat, just didn't want engine work revealed. At least the kid displayed some common sense and dropped the claim. Done, end of story, everyone move on. OTOH, I thought it was a total disgrace what they did to the Unadilla track. They turned what was once the best track in the U.S. into a high speed sx track that now develops ruts. Doubles, there are now doubles and table tops on Unadilla's track. What a total waste of motocross history and great track.
@@jamesadams2334 Deegans and their mafia strong arm this kid to the point he has to rescind. That’s not Brennon having common sense, it’s retaliation and giving him no choice. Were you also for mandatory vax as well? The government says “you don’t have to lose your job if you get these shots.”It’s the same concept. “You can go through with the claim but we will crush you and your sponsors.” You think it’s ok for the “elite” to disregard written rules? Do you also support the Clintons?
I give you a lot of credit for really reaching out to Brennan and His motor builder. In my opinion this was handled poorly by certain individuals. Really hope something good comes about this for Brennan and even his motor builder. Such a shame he worked so hard to get nothing out of it
His motor builder had zero reason to be there. And I call bs that they just couldn't find his dad considering his dad was fully aware he was claiming the bike that had a time limit after the last moto. His motor builder also ramped it all up by threatening litigation. The depth of his motor builder's involvement in the kids purchase and all of the conversations from the initial outset is shady. He had no business being involved and its likely his involvement could have a more negative affect not only on him but the other riders he builds motors for too. The only people that may have a case for litigation would be the other side unless this crew has some sort of taped proof of the conversations. What they do have is this crew name dropping and making accusations of some serious stuff in a public forum which could lead to a defamation case. If they were so adamant about having the bike they should have stuck to their guns and gone through with the claim. Now they have a huge bag of crap that could blow up in their faces.
I agree the motor builder was behind this whole thing and his interview with this epoxy media guy just proves that they had a plan to ruin Loretta's for the Deacons this guy is using negativity to fuel his career he is lame and he will be looked at and ostracized from the sport he'll be a nobody really soon
One of the last comment in this interview made by the engine builder gave great justification to the action of Cotter’s private chat. Seems the man that said he knew the rules, didn’t. The rules clearly states that you cannot give the bike back. Also add that they also state that Brennan would have been subject to a 1 year ban had he done so. The only individuals that are subject to handling this whole situation poorly are the governing body the AMA. Brennan should have had the referee or a AMA official by his side from start to finish, he should have also been accompanied by a parent or guardian the whole time. The AMA are the only individuals that screwed up. Period!
@@richardb8492 Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think you've got it wrong...the folks that are subject to a one year ban are the ones who are having the bike claimed. In this case, it's Star Yamaha since they are the owners of the bike, not the Deegans. The rules state that if the owners of the bike that's being claimed don't give it up, THEY are the ones subject to a one year ban.
Derek has been a friend of mine and worked on numerous bikes and projects of mine for many years and he is, without doubt, 100% straight up honest dude.. and his work is top notch. AND... I can't even believe that the top echelon has to cheat!! So sad!
Derek was truthful. I haven't been keeping up with the industry for decades, but this doesn't surprise me. When money is involved, there will always be cheaters.
The shittiest part of this whole thing is Brennan followed a rule made a claim, and then backed out of the claim for fear of the repercussions of losing his sponsor, and loses his sponsor anyway.. :*(. Brennan needs a GOFUNDME account STAT!
He got dropped by Yamaha for messing with Yamaha that's how the world works ?.. he had a go fund me an it got deleted because if the money was really his why would he need a go fund me an If the money wasn't his that's against Loretta's rules 💯
@@dylanlevy2107 He didn't mess with Yamaha! There's a rule at a race event that say's you can purchase someones bike for double the MSRP he did that, so how TF is he "messing with Yamaha"? They got caught with their pants around their ankles, and I totally understand why they're protecting their investment, but at the end of the day the kid had 5 bikes through sponsorship that he raced, AND his 17k, or whatever he has/had in his bank account! The whole purpose of the Gofundme was to help him acquire a bike, or bike(s) without having to drain his wallet, because that's how his situation was initially before all the butt ****ery happened!
@@rockstarbmf9595 kid got 14,24,16 knows he will never ride a factory bike cause any kid with skill would just earn a ride.. now he's gonna cry Yamaha dropped his contract? Shoulda thought of that first, now no sponsor is gonna wanna deal with him an most dropped him for it. Snakes get their heads cut off that's life
@@rockstarbmf9595 that like if you had a boss who YOU WORK FOR , an u go post leaked info of the company an then cry oh your mean you fired me.. like yea wtf did u think would happen Einstein
@@johnh2349 Exactly, a guy who records not only his but even each of his kids "entire life story" magically knew not to film any of it. That in itself proves he knew he was at least a little bit at fault or else this would have all been recorded and put up on YT as another day in the life bs that he wants everyone to gobble up and consume.
🕵♀🕵♀ It's great that we get to hear everyone's side of the story. As an engine builder myself, I completely agree with the way Derek handled himself. Lots of foul play from Yamaha, Cotter and others. Red flags everywhere 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
The longer this goes on the more the deegans look like punks. #yamaha and #thedeegans #givebrennanthebike It's getting to the point yamaha should do this for free to make this right now
Derek realizes He's going to pay for this...Yamaha and others are going to make him through all the Backchannels they have. He is apologetic, but NOT because he did anything wrong, but because He knows they can hurt him. Yamaha knows they cheated and were not willing to submit to EITHER rule option so they tried to invent a third and it worked. Dirty.
As a adult racer we would race at some meetings with schoolboy's and every race meeting we would be held up with fights and arguments with parents who think there kid was a world champion in the making.
Both glad and sad to see this story come out. Sad because it shows the deplorable behavior of Event organizers and the "top" teams in moto, reflecting on the state of amatuer racing. Glad because it needed to be shown and maybe, just maybe it gives next years participants a (more) even playing feild.
Glad to hear all people involved comment. Now these accusations are making sense. Again to many people involved that had nothing to do with a bike claim.
I want to hear from Schofield sponsor the Yamaha dealership in Canada. Star Yamaha racing Yamaha corporate racing Tim cotter Brian deegan Haiden deegan AMA director who office was shared with Tim Cotter and was in the the meeting according to racer x online article as they also shared that office. We have only heard from engine builder and Schofield the kid not the dad. And he didn't say tell us he got 2 engines and is being flown to California to Ride test a factory star Yamaha racing 250. He said in his interview he was pressured big time, but he would have sold bike back to deegans for Price he bought it for after he rode it and made you tube video of it. Only heard from schofield, engine builder, racer x
I guess my biggest issues with this are 2 fold: the Deegans and Yamaha. First, it is rediculuous they are bringing that tech to an amateur race more less a b class race. Then refuse to let the bike go and threathen peoples livelihoods with credible claims that the owner of the kids sponsoring dealership being called by Yamaha and talks of the kid not getting a factory ride if he claimed the bike. There should be sanctions levied for that alone by the ama. Cronyism at its best where obvious Yamaha has way to much influence over the ama and the rules only apply to the "little people". The deagans also obviously think the rules don't apply to them. Honestly been skeptical of them as anyone not liking travis Pastrana is questionable imo. Pastrana would race anything anywhere, now we know the deegans will only race with a far superior advantage to the competition and not follow the rules. The deegans are dead to me and are what we need gone from the sport or it will be ruined. Obvious winning races is financially beneficial for the deegans and isn't in the best interest of everyone else as far as abiding by rules as they are. My only question is did the deagans really only bring 1 bike or only 1 star racing Yamaha bike?
Great point about the bike, probably has more than one, i would imagine. Also haiden can ride for sure, in a way he just got caught up in the mess. Although I heard he was stalking the claimant at one point to find his pits.
The "Deegens" didn't bring the bike AT ALL ! Star racing Yamaha pays Haiden to ride THEIR bikes, so the Deegens didn't do anything that ANY father would do for his kid. Put yourself in their position for one minute. Haiden still had to race the next day, I'm sure they were freaking out when this first happened too.
So it's been planned for months and with in 2 minutes of the video he pretty much clears the bike from being a "pro" bike. He said it's self it don't even sound the same. He helped deegan with this more than he did brennan.he actually kinda threw Brennan under the bus too
He's trying to save face so his business isn't damaged. He absolutely wanted to see the inside of the bike. The kid talked about taking it apart & doing RUclips vids on it. No doubt HARRIS put that idea in his mind.
Hats off to you Cooksey for sticking with this story. I'm interested to see how this turns out, or maybe this is the last of it. Please continue to follow this story. If people don't want to hear about it they don't have to click on the video.
The story was dropped when the claim was retracted. There is no story, it's over. Why do people keep bringing it up. The premier motocross track in America was just destroyed this weekend to make more money and no cares about that!
@@jamesadams2334 it's interesting to hear what goes on behind the scenes. If this type of content doesn't interest you then watch something else. The story may not be over. Issues could arise from having the kid alone with no representation.
His statement at the end is what everyones missing. The rule states THE BIKE MUST BE TURNED OVER IMMEDIATELY. Deegan wasnt even done racing. No wonder Deegan/Yamaha got a bit pissed.
That is what I said as soon as this came out! Haiden still had to race and would not been able to!! Because you ate only allowed 1 bike!! Of course they would be pissed!! Plus Yamaha was protecting the bike from Industrial sabotage..The Kod did say he did it so his engine builder could look at the engine! And what did they think was going to happen going after the bike!! And it was not even Haidens bike it is stars..I hated the attacks on the Deegans when it was not even them who went after the Kid! And using Haiden and the word Cheating in the same sentence was not kool in my book! And people should apologize for that! And the ugly tweets they posted about the Family!! Like Cheater Boy and ignorant crap like that!!
@@slayer6936 No Brennon did not say that he wanted it for his engine builder to look at it. But even if you want to think that, it’s no one’s business what he’s gonna do with the bike. And yes, the Deegans did go after Brennon and even followed him back to his rig and talked shit. Also Deegans have been caught cheating. DQ’d from Oak Hill for running a big bore motor. I’m not saying they were cheating at LL’s but it’s in their history.
@@abramkuhlman7201 HE did say it in one of his first statements then changed his statement.. And it is Stars bike and Deegan rides it!! This is on Star and Matt walker And it was the fans who harassed Him not Haiden! But one thing I never said was it was right for what happened! It was grown ups who created all the BS... There has been so many deffrent stores put on who said and did what!! And another point what did they expect to happen going after stars bike! The bike is not Haidens! I know what the rules say. But if they gave up the bike according to the rules Haiden would have not been able to ride!! The AMA AND racer x and Star handed this wrong! The AMA should have took the engine and broke it down to see if it was illegal! If so then yes he should have been disqualified. And Star was protecting their product from Industrial espionage..Which was not right either..So you can not say Haiden was cheating you can only speculate!! And it would not have been Haiden cheating it would have been Star that gave him a bike that was illegal..Now if they tore down the bike and it was ok then what would have people said? And you have to think in my thoughts is that you are innocent until proven guilty!! But we will never know that because the AMA did not do there job like the should have done!.
@@slayer6936 Haiden and a group of his followers hopped in a side by side and followed Brennon back to his rig where they sat across the isle and talked shit. People that I know personally were parked two spots down from Brennon and heard, saw and even took pictures of them. And yes, Haiden would have been able to ride. They tag the bike and an AMA official stays with the bike while any maintenance is being done. Everyone on the Deegan side including Yamaha USA, Tim C, Dave C, and Matt W were bullies and the AMA was incompetent.
I can’t believe how many people in the comment section are willing to put aside their morals bc of their love for the Deegans. The Deegans wouldn’t skip a beat to do the same to you. Lol.
Exactly... Its like my union officers... My company supervisors KNOW they aren't allowed to speak to me without union representatives in the room. Same goes here.
Great job Chris and thank for your participation Derek. Reminds me of our own government and our "rights". As long as you don't create a wave you can drive your boat through here.
opening it up would be useless. it was in the mod class.. you can build it as much as you want.. there is not cheating useless you start talking big bore
All the people who are actually employed by companies will be placing the blame on Matt Walker. He’s the scapegoat. He’s why he was the one making the text and calls. Plausible deniability. Donnie Luce sealed his fate when him and Matt conspired to intimidate a minor. Tim Cotter sealed his fate when he allowed a minor to be in a room with him and Brian Deegan only for 20 min of intimidation. The actions of grown men in this case is what’s the most damning. They will try to spin it anyway they can to downplay their involvement. But with that said it’s obvious this was completely their decisions that ultimately, and hopefully will get Matt, Tim, and Donnie looking for new jobs. The fact they did this to a minor is the most disturbing. Don’t let these men gaslight and cover their tracks. They should all be held accountable. But Matt Walker in my opinion should be the one we focus on the most. He works for himself and ultimately can walk away without any retribution. His actions were the most abhorrent. How the hell is Matt allowed to be around minors after this?
I highly dislike bullies and cheaters. I'll never buy a product from anyone who supports the Cheatan Deegans, including anyone Matt Walker supports, or anyone Star Racing supports. My money will never be used to buy another Yamaha product.
After hearing this guy speak about, I'm starting to feel less sorry for them. First off, the rule was broken. Once the bike was claimed, it no longer belongs to the previous owner. And the new owners can do whatever they want with it. So why even try to tell them you'll promise not to open it up? That was a mistake, in my opinion. Secondly, based on the way the conversations were going at the time, they should have recognized the damaged was already done. They were now in a, "no turning back" situation. The promoter hassled them. Yamaha hassled them. Brian hassled them. And someone was threatening to interfere with the kids Yamaha support. All bully tactics. Even after they dropped the claim, many respectable sources in the moto media were still bashing them. And that will continue. So, they should have held there ground and taken the bike. Then started the negotiations once they had the bike. The rule is the rule and everyone knew it. In my opinion the only appreciate action by Yamaha or Star, would have been offering to buy the bike back. At whatever price the kid wanted. And the AMA should have 100% backed whatever decision the kid made. Instead they used strong arm tactics. Now, he gets on hear wanting to apologize about what happened. Afraid to name names. And looking at it from their perspective to justify their actions. Well, good luck with that. The people who stood in the way of the claim, will never have a kind word to say about him and the kid. And neither will the millions of rabid The Degan's fans. The kid and his engine guy were in the right the whole time. Unfortunately their names will probably be drug through the mud, by the moto elites, from now on. They truly let a golden opportunity slip out of their hands.
Derek bored ported and honed a yz125 for me several years ago and boy does this guy know how to make a 2 stroke sing. Now it’s a 144 and she’s a rippa. He’s builds a better top end than anyone around. Funny that he’s in this middle of the drama. He’s a great guy.
The motor builder Derek and the Kid that made the claim, could do anything they wanted had the claim gone through. TBH, why would they threaten the kids sponsors Yamaha Dealership if they were on less than factory equipment... It looks more they had a factory pro bike at a amateur B Class National... I still love the Deegans... but it's a corporate move on this one... and the kid was in the middle of trying to execute his right and was coerced by adults not to... that's how it looks from all interviews so far... and the money would have been there to reverse engineer and prototype... it would have shown up upon that bike being claimed... it was a huge deal gone wrong for the kid.
The moto industry can’t help but eat itself. Drama will be the end of what could of been. At the end of the day with out a talented rider and a factory oem helping that ride, have fun growing moto to a bigger level.
@@CookseyMedia I watched the first one all the way through, seemed to play fine. Good story. I am super surprised Deegan didn't didn't have separate bikes for the 2 classes, if nothing else for the longevity issue. Unless the engine was available due to the break in the nationals. Did you see their video showing his holeshot and that bike pull bike lengths down the start against other mod bikes?
Let’s be clear, I believe by the rules the kid should’ve got the bike, but let’s also be clear, he’s lying through his teeth, that wasn’t his money, how it went down doesn’t match up to his story. Brian Deegan was only in that room for 3 to 4 minutes, everyone says that but schofield, and on top of all that schofield has sent not to nice texts to Brian Deegan calling Haiden Names among other things, and Schofield Lied about his sponsor also, saying they took his bike because of this, but we find out that it was already planned the bikes went back after Loretta’s. Lie lie lie lie. SMH
Some people ask, Where was Brennan's dad? Doesn't matter, Brennan had an adult (Derek Harris) as his adult representative. Unfortunately, the adults on the other side kept telling Brennan to leave the Room. : o Chris, Don't let this slip into the shadows of forgotten wrongs, please. Thanks!
The very reason Yamaha didn't want to let the bike go is exactly why the rule exists. Engine maker should have said, "you're goddamn right I'm going to open the engine up!"
All the bikes in mod class which this was in had atleast 15k in upgrades in parts alone. So that's more than 2 times MSRP. Plus claiming rule at regional event is only 1.3 times MSRP Rule needs to be updated
Claimer rules are all over circle track and other racing venues and honestly, they use the rule fairly often. If there's a guy without much money in a claimer class where you're supposed to be limited to X amount of dollars in the enging, they can claim anyone at any race and you basically swap engines. Definitely sounds like they had special stuff in / on Haydens bike not that he needed it anyway but that really looks bad on Star's part and they're going to remember this going forward and unfortunately, I'm guessing he's going to have problems getting any Yamahas or sponsorship from Yamaha in the future.
Despite what went down its somewhat naive to think that claiming a bike from a factory sponsored rider is going to go easy. All of these “meetings” should’ve been documented. Hind sight is always 20/20, but with as many camera phones there are nowadays, you can’t swing a dead cat without someone filming it. All of this should’ve been recorded via audio or visually.. All this back and forth is beating a dead horse.. Does it look bad? Yes… Were things done by the AMA rules? Probably yes.. At the end of the day its now become all hearsay.
People and parents need to understand that claiming doesn't end well. Not saying it all ends like this situation did, but it ruins reputations and relationships
I have seen it in other forms of racing and while it scares people into not overspending, when they do and get claimed it ends with lots of hurt feelings and negative emotions.
If claiming is taboo and basically nobody does it and when they do, they get black balled, why have the rule. The rule was apparently taken for granted that it wouldn't bite Star. The intensity to protect that bike tells you how much was in it.
Great job Chris!! On bringing this guy on! Abd he also brought to light a lot of the drama and can you post that engine builders business I would like to send him My motor..if he does 2 strokes I like the guy!
He does. He has worked on my sons engine replacing the valves on his race bike. He absolutely does both 2 and 4 strokes. Really good dude and does great work. I’m sure you will be happy. Good luck.
My guess is when HP motor guy , hammered the mx sport Guy in the beginning, MX sport talked to the Mat walker guy, and said watch out for that motor builder he 's trouble. My guess they both assumed the Hp motor guy was fronting the kid for the claim, and why the Matt guy Railed the HP motor guy so aggressively. Just my assumption, cause the Hp motor guy had alot of Hostility aimed at him, which he may have intiated, when the first dealing of the Mx sport guy, that news traveled quickly.
The Yamaha guy admitted the bike is not stock...and has alot in it...what a joke...putting a factory bike against amateurs... thought Dangerboy was the Fastest? why does he need anything better than a Stock Yamaha??? yeah some mods..and suspension of course..but that shows they can't compete at stock...so how much does a Pro bike have that is Illegal into it ? 🤔
You may not be able to produce the "factory parts" quickly but if there IS factory parts in the bike, that would be illegal for Lorettas. You wont need to make these parts, but what do these factory people think they're trying to get away with? Plus you can get ideas for futures bikes from these parts. He should have claimed it.
The problem with Lorettas is 98% of the people go there for the love of the sport knowing they aren’t going to win or make a living at this sport. The addiction of motocross is what keeps people spending money and racing. Shame on the manufacturers for cheating and treating that kid the way they did. I think pro AMA racing should be stock bikes with suspension And exhaust only. Then we’ll see who the good riders are when the factory rigs roll into these tracks all over the country. We would see how good these factory guys are against local pros that don’t have a fraction of the resources. This might be a comment that most don’t like, but it would bring more local pros into the mix if it wasn’t such an unfair advantage.
I'd doubt the factories would accept it, they like an uneven playing field
So, destroy an entire industry… got it.
Sorry buddy but the industry is destroying itself. Most people would rather practice now than race. Our participation in this sport is necessary for its survival. $10000 bikes that can’t compete against $100000 Bikes make it a clown show, unless your just a spectator. I’m 52 and it’s gotten a lot worse for local guys since the 4 strokes took over.
I love it.
100% agree
The simple fact that the Yamaha guy said they couldn't let the bike out there because it had development and stuff in it that was to special and they knew the claiming rule exists is Yamaha cheating on the whole deal.
That’s hear say. No physical proof.
It's not cheating. You can bring whatever you want from my understanding, as long as its at the correct displacement. You just have to be prepared to loose it for 2x retail of the bike. That's pretty shitty of them for not honoring the deal.
@@crabbiboi5528 because the deal was not honored degan should be banned for a year based on the rules. The whole thing is BS.
@@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 he backed out of the deal, the speculation is they forced him to back out but idk about that
@@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 Deegan had nothing to do with the deal. Deegan doesn’t own the bike, Star racing does. Deegan is just caught in the middle. The kid backed out not because of the Deegans.
It’s funny that people were saying the Deegans and Star were the biggest bullies, but after hearing more of the story from multiple people now. It definitely sounds like Tim Cotter, Matt Walker, Donnie Luce with Yamaha and the unnamed guy are the real bullies that intimidated that kid. Hopefully they make it right with him.
Degas still tried strong arming the kid based on what the actual kid said in a interview. None of this would’ve happened if Deegan didn’t actually contact Star.
@@Randybobandi6969 Contact Star? Lol yeah, I’m sure all the Star staff would have been completely oblivious to the AMA impounding their bike if the Deegans didn’t let them know😂. I’m sure everyone notified their chain of command. The Deegans could have lost their ability to communicate and every one up to Yamaha America would have still heard about this.
@@Randybobandi6969 Deegan never strong armed the kid. All he did was ask the kid why he wanted the bike which I’m sure most fathers in that position would do the same for their kid. Was he not supposed to tell Star? I mean it is their bike after all. After hearing the story from the kid and his engine builder, it’s clear the real people that strong armed him were Tim Cotter, Matt Walker, Donnie Luce with Yamaha and the unnamed guy. Not the Deegan’s. Not Star Racing.
The biggest bullies are the deegan nutriders stalking trying to intimidate Schofield out of the deal. It worked
@@thflash09msr Really? Was it Brian's place to go interrogate a kid? How do you think Brian would have acted had it gone the other way and someone had Haiden in a room without Brian and "just asking him why"? I like the Deegan's too, for now, but it absolutely was bullying. Had there been a conversation with all parents included, or it was all adults involved, I might agree more with you, but that is not what happened, and Brian had zero right to do what he did.
Cat is out of the bag, Yamaha bullied their way out of this claim. Sounds like a factory engine they didn't want to lose and bullying the claimant to change his mind was the only way to keep the bike and not get Degan a year ban.
You got bullied and probably still do lol
This dude is well versed and sounds informed good interview
Thanks, I agree. The guy seems to know his stuff.
Yeah the dude says straight up he isn’t prepared to kick the hornets nest so he is here to clear his name and point the finger to Brennan.
he built me a yz 144 engine that was turning 45 horsepower. dudes a beast!
@@blakeh5847 yeah his engine work is already nuts, I'm amazed more people don't know him
They will know his name now and this may be a good opportunity for him and his business
I enjoy when people like Cooksey and Hopper bring out claims and “conspiracies” and everyone shits on them, then it comes out to be FACTS … keep it up Cooksey !
He has no facts lol
What facts? Truth concealed. Truth is the bike is probably illegal and they were freaked
What facts. This engine builder was asked to leave by the ama officials and event director cause he has no reason to even be there so the fact that he is even being interviewed is rubbish. Only reason why cooksey is interviewing him is cause nobody else will give him the time of day cause he just lies and makes up rubbish cause he has a personal vendetta.
@@DaveLad 100% cookie media is just a gossip channel. Nobody will ever talk to him so he gets the neighbor of the guy that knew the riders son to interview lol.
Cooksey is without one of the ONLY real journalists in this sport. He has got the facts, and shone the flashlight on the cockroach in the room. Series has a Claim rule that was in effect... fact, Claim was made... fact, Brennan was harassed and bullied by the "promoters" of the series and the hottest up star's dad(Deegan), to drop the claim... fact, then the support team around Brennan was harassed and bullied by Matt Walker and Yamaha representatives to the point the boy had to drop the claim after being threatened with being canceled from the sport.
This is story is just beginning.. and it doesn't look good for Coombs, Cotter, Deegan, Walker, Yamaha, Star Racing and any other goon that is in the "in" cartel and using their power to block any hopeful young racers. The fact that they pulled this stunt at an amateur race shows you that they have no respect for anyone or anything but their bank account, and the "brand" they are building.
I'm convinced that Matt Walker's behavior was way over the top. He sounds like a real piece of work. He needs to go immediately. Career finito. He's lacks the integrity to carry out his trusted duties.
He's always seemed like an arrogant hot head. Never was a fan of that dude.
he is i triasneds with him in 2017 before larreetas and he through a rock at a kid for messing up the burm
Disappointed in Matt Walker
Yup
I have had experience with Matt "the legend in his own mind" Walker. The guy is so full of himself that it is actually shockingly hilarious. You don't know whether to take him seriously or laugh your ass off. The guy is border line Psycho.
Dying to know the conversation Yamaha had with Matt Walker before the encounter with Derek, Brennan and his Dad.
Great interview. My biggest issue & why I will no longer support Brian is no adult man should ever speak to another man’s child the way he did. We don’t know what exactly he said, we don’t need to, without one of Brennans parents present, Brian or anyone for that matter, should’ve been alone or in a group interrogating him.
Punk move B. Punk move! Imagine what B would do if situations were reversed & a group of adults and another riders dad were alone & interrogating Hayden. As a lifelong Yamaha guy, this really disappoints me.
Exactly! There are a ton of potential legal ramifications possible from this!
Haiden would have had his parents there!
Why was Brennan there without his dad?
@wile E potential extortion if a dealerships franchise was threatened, a minor being coerced during the claiming process by multiple people as first reported. There are I’m sure probably more.
The reason I said potential is because I wasn’t there so it’s hard to know all of the facts. It sure seems like everyone is saying nothing happened but that’s clearly not true. That kid should have that bike in his possession if everyone acted on the up and up!
@wile E Wile, I agree but it’s painfully obvious this kid was forced to rescind his claim by someone that wasn’t him!
Secondly, I stand by my use of the word Potentially!
Third, I would personally would be going after the dealership at this point to find out what truly happened as to me it seems like he is potentially the key player in sorting out this debacle now.
Derek Harris seems like a legit dude... He backs his customers. I hope he gets a lot of business from this.
It played out to be a very uncomfortable situation for Derek, and I too hope it at least helps his business. Seems like a good dude.
I have worked with Derek and he is a stand up guy. I had him do my sons valves when I was doing a full rebuild and he does great work. My boy is still riding and racing the bike 2 years later. Derek is easy to work with, easy to get a hold of and a very smart guy. I don’t know if he still does, but he used to do more than just engine work. He used to do suspension as well. Either way, all around good people. I hope this situation helps him and his business grow.
It’s almost as if they thought this would be swept under the rug and Brennan or no one else was gonna tell it how it was lmao
Right? Probably why Brian deleted his video.
I think that it almost was.
@@CookseyMedia cooksey. What is the remedy to all this if here ever was one. The two motors and let the kid ride the bike like they promised or... The adult behavior in all this is so much like the mob, a shame. Glad you brought this whole thing to light. A true journalist. We need more of these today in the world along with truth and accountability. Brian acting like straight thug.
@@Pheedub stick to the facts!. Jesus, now I know how Biden got elected!
@@Pheedub Brian deegan always deleted his lives that's nothing new.
Unbelievable situation. I appreciate getting to hear this man’s side of it. Especially since he was made the scapegoat in most versions of the story. You can tell he’s being truthful. It’s in his voice. I still have questions though! LOL thank you for the insight Cooksey
Matt should be fired. period.
Tim should apologize to the kid.
Brian is a liar.
The AMA should have the Deeghans and Yamaha pay a major fine for disrespecting the claim rule.
And if that claim rule is never applied, the AMA should ammend it or drop it, because this is smoke and mirrors ...
No disrespecting the claiming rule, no cheating found or proven just a bunch of people yelling. nothing more. Stick to the facts please.
@@jamesadams2334 Okay let's stick to the facts then. The kid dropped the claim out of intimidation and fear of losing his sponsor. He still lost his sponsor....and he didn't get the bike.
Hahahaha yeah keep believing this bs story from cookie media. This guy is just a gossip channel. You know absolutely nothing
@@xafbxmoto269 the kid, his parents and the motor builder planned this. The kid is petty and jealous of deegan. He's not even a top 15 kid. The motor builder wanted a star motor so he could try and make his business better. That's all this was about.
@@fjbfuckjoebiden8548 Derek's motors are fast enough haha he has 6 or 7 titles at Loretta's on his motors. Other then that who cares they should have just given him the bike or not dumped that much money into a build?
Simply put, Yamaha and Deegan panicked because sharks think everyone have their intentions.
This!
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
Derek and HP Racing Development is a quality company. I have had him work on my sons race bike (Recut for new valves and top end check over). Derek was great to work with and does quality work. I hope he gets some extra business for being in the middle of this mess.
I still don't understand why all the questions about "why"...They can do whatever they want with the bike if they claim it...the rules say you can claim the bike; it doesn't say what you're allowed to do with it after. If he wants to take it apart and blast it on the internet, it's HIS bike to do so lol.
Of course! WTF these deegan nut swingers talking about?
Exactly
Cooksey is the MAN , Only dude that is not afraid of telling the 100% truth about the industry , Right wrong or indifferent . Calling out the people that deserve it , Propping up the underdogs that do as well.
Keep it up my man .
Amen~
Out of complete spite, I would have bought the bike and followed through with it based upon their behavior. How Yamaha doesn't get sued for malfeasance is beyond me. Completely pathetic to BULLY a 17 year old kid.
100%. Yamaha should be thrown out of the sport for at least one year followed by the other cheaters
@@chriszbodula1894 lol, ok drama queen.
bc getting a bike is not like shutting down your own Yamaha dealership like Yamaha threatened.
C'mon man 😩
This fits the description for Extortion in my opinion.
The kid didn’t write the rules if you’ve got nothing to hide you’ve got nothing to fear
This is an enlightened man, he is self aware of his own folleys and tries to empathize with all parties involved. Forgiveness and acceptance is the only solution even if others cannot see it to spite you.
The reach to protect that motor is insane , extremely unprofessional
I wish Brennan stuck to his guns and got that bike. Obviously there is space age tech inside that motor
Besides, they would have grenaded it before too long.
@@BobbyGeneric145 who would have and why
Why? The motor could have been stock and the bike have $50K in fork work done to it. No one will ever know because the claim was retracted.
@@jamesadams2334 they actually talk about that and they didn’t put on the best forks for that reason. And how do you know that motor was stock. If it was why was Yamaha so extreme protective of that motor? Like I said the reach to protect that motor is extremely unprofessional mafia style you don’t do that in professional sports IDK I think you missed part of the video
There's absolutely nothing for an engine builder to need to explain or apologize for, even if he did want to see inside the engine of a claimed bike. Even if he had fronted the money. The rule is the rule and the motivation for the claim is of no concern to anyone. Pay the money, take home the bike. Period. Full stop.
Yamaha, Star Yamaha, Deegans are behaving like a crime syndicate in all of this. The AMA needs to get ahead of this, stop the retaliations and lop some heads.
Need to ban Yamaha from Lorettas for 5 years.
Little do you know people can't put money up for you because you can use that to help you if your bike gets claimed by having your friends put offers up so that one person doesn't get the bike lmao it's literally a rule of claiming
Derek's story/perspective and the whole issue underscores how much of a disparity there is in equipment and money spent. It makes competition weak. The people at the top want to protect their edge but it sucks knowing the only kids who have a chance are the chosen ones. So much talent never make it because they didn't have money or they were late bloomers and over looked by the factory teams. Thus we have pro races where the 10th best guy on a 450 gets lapped. As a fan, THAT SUCKS!
Deegan would have beat the kid on any bike. Not that much disparity between bikes but huge talent difference. So the facts are that Yamaha, Star and Deegan still broke no rules, didn't cheat, just didn't want engine work revealed. At least the kid displayed some common sense and dropped the claim. Done, end of story, everyone move on.
OTOH, I thought it was a total disgrace what they did to the Unadilla track. They turned what was once the best track in the U.S. into a high speed sx track that now develops ruts. Doubles, there are now doubles and table tops on Unadilla's track. What a total waste of motocross history and great track.
@@jamesadams2334 You don't think it's funny how they film every single part of their life besides this incident 😂
@@jamesadams2334 Deegans and their mafia strong arm this kid to the point he has to rescind. That’s not Brennon having common sense, it’s retaliation and giving him no choice. Were you also for mandatory vax as well? The government says “you don’t have to lose your job if you get these shots.”It’s the same concept. “You can go through with the claim but we will crush you and your sponsors.”
You think it’s ok for the “elite” to disregard written rules? Do you also support the Clintons?
I'm sure your boyfriend agrees with you kel
@@xafbxmoto269 they did talk about this on their channel
Keep blowing this up Cooksey. I wanna see resolution. They want us all to forget about it.
I give you a lot of credit for really reaching out to Brennan and His motor builder. In my opinion this was handled poorly by certain individuals. Really hope something good comes about this for Brennan and even his motor builder. Such a shame he worked so hard to get nothing out of it
His motor builder had zero reason to be there. And I call bs that they just couldn't find his dad considering his dad was fully aware he was claiming the bike that had a time limit after the last moto. His motor builder also ramped it all up by threatening litigation. The depth of his motor builder's involvement in the kids purchase and all of the conversations from the initial outset is shady. He had no business being involved and its likely his involvement could have a more negative affect not only on him but the other riders he builds motors for too.
The only people that may have a case for litigation would be the other side unless this crew has some sort of taped proof of the conversations. What they do have is this crew name dropping and making accusations of some serious stuff in a public forum which could lead to a defamation case.
If they were so adamant about having the bike they should have stuck to their guns and gone through with the claim. Now they have a huge bag of crap that could blow up in their faces.
@@howardwest2707 plain and simple. yes
I agree the motor builder was behind this whole thing and his interview with this epoxy media guy just proves that they had a plan to ruin Loretta's for the Deacons this guy is using negativity to fuel his career he is lame and he will be looked at and ostracized from the sport he'll be a nobody really soon
One of the last comment in this interview made by the engine builder gave great justification to the action of Cotter’s private chat. Seems the man that said he knew the rules, didn’t. The rules clearly states that you cannot give the bike back. Also add that they also state that Brennan would have been subject to a 1 year ban had he done so.
The only individuals that are subject to handling this whole situation poorly are the governing body the AMA. Brennan should have had the referee or a AMA official by his side from start to finish, he should have also been accompanied by a parent or guardian the whole time. The AMA are the only individuals that screwed up.
Period!
@@richardb8492 Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think you've got it wrong...the folks that are subject to a one year ban are the ones who are having the bike claimed. In this case, it's Star Yamaha since they are the owners of the bike, not the Deegans. The rules state that if the owners of the bike that's being claimed don't give it up, THEY are the ones subject to a one year ban.
Derek has been a friend of mine and worked on numerous bikes and projects of mine for many years and he is, without doubt, 100% straight up honest dude.. and his work is top notch. AND... I can't even believe that the top echelon has to cheat!! So sad!
Derek was truthful. I haven't been keeping up with the industry for decades, but this doesn't surprise me. When money is involved, there will always be cheaters.
Cooksey is the source for breaking news in the moto world!!
The shittiest part of this whole thing is Brennan followed a rule made a claim, and then backed out of the claim for fear of the repercussions of losing his sponsor, and loses his sponsor anyway.. :*(.
Brennan needs a GOFUNDME account STAT!
He got dropped by Yamaha for messing with Yamaha that's how the world works ?.. he had a go fund me an it got deleted because if the money was really his why would he need a go fund me an If the money wasn't his that's against Loretta's rules 💯
@@dylanlevy2107 He didn't mess with Yamaha! There's a rule at a race event that say's you can purchase someones bike for double the MSRP he did that, so how TF is he "messing with Yamaha"? They got caught with their pants around their ankles, and I totally understand why they're protecting their investment, but at the end of the day the kid had 5 bikes through sponsorship that he raced, AND his 17k, or whatever he has/had in his bank account! The whole purpose of the Gofundme was to help him acquire a bike, or bike(s) without having to drain his wallet, because that's how his situation was initially before all the butt ****ery happened!
@@rockstarbmf9595 kid got 14,24,16 knows he will never ride a factory bike cause any kid with skill would just earn a ride.. now he's gonna cry Yamaha dropped his contract? Shoulda thought of that first, now no sponsor is gonna wanna deal with him an most dropped him for it. Snakes get their heads cut off that's life
@@rockstarbmf9595 that like if you had a boss who YOU WORK FOR , an u go post leaked info of the company an then cry oh your mean you fired me.. like yea wtf did u think would happen Einstein
Hats off to Derek, well done for sharing and clarifying.
What are the chances you get Brian Deegan on this show?
He was supposed to call, he has my number. I tried!
@@CookseyMedia Funny how Brian made sure not to bring any of his camera crew with him for any of these alterations lol
@@dl11c I don’t know if anyone has said this out loud yet.
@@johnh2349 Exactly, a guy who records not only his but even each of his kids "entire life story" magically knew not to film any of it. That in itself proves he knew he was at least a little bit at fault or else this would have all been recorded and put up on YT as another day in the life bs that he wants everyone to gobble up and consume.
Zero point zero I would guess
🕵♀🕵♀ It's great that we get to hear everyone's side of the story. As an engine builder myself, I completely agree with the way Derek handled himself. Lots of foul play from Yamaha, Cotter and others. Red flags everywhere 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Hell ya dude I love when he said he said he felt responsible for that kid give this guy work let’s support small business!
I've been,and,still am a fan of the Deegans. However, this is a very bad "look". What a shame.
Especially for Brian Deegan couldn’t imagine what he would do if some adult cornered one of his kids without him present.
@@gwagenadventure727 Exactly!!!! If I were that kids dad I would of choked Deegan and that other dude that had no business being there
@@gwagenadventure727 exactly!
@@gwagenadventure727 Facts
Deegans are known cheaters. Already got caught running a big bore kit when e was on 65s. They play the "We didnt know" card.
It's not what you know, it's about who you know. The Deegan's have the money and the connections.
Kinda like Hunter Biden
@@BigTruck-IE-Fool 😂The Biden's of motocross
The longer this goes on the more the deegans look like punks.
#yamaha and
#thedeegans
#givebrennanthebike
It's getting to the point yamaha should do this for free to make this right now
Derek realizes He's going to pay for this...Yamaha and others are going to make him through all the Backchannels they have. He is apologetic, but NOT because he did anything wrong, but because He knows they can hurt him. Yamaha knows they cheated and were not willing to submit to EITHER rule option so they tried to invent a third and it worked. Dirty.
Yamaha DID NOT CHEAT! The claim was dropped. no one knows what was in the engine.
Thanks for this interview. Very important. Great work.
As a adult racer we would race at some meetings with schoolboy's and every race meeting we would be held up with fights and arguments with parents who think there kid was a world champion in the making.
meant to mention, thanks Cooksey for “clutching at straws” 😂😂😂
Both glad and sad to see this story come out.
Sad because it shows the deplorable behavior of Event organizers and the "top" teams in moto, reflecting on the state of amatuer racing.
Glad because it needed to be shown and maybe, just maybe it gives next years participants a (more) even playing feild.
Brian Deegan, Tim Cotter, Matt Walker, Donnie Luce are all jerks, they could not have made themselves look any worse in this situation
Glad to hear all people involved comment. Now these accusations are making sense. Again to many people involved that had nothing to do with a bike claim.
I want to hear from Schofield sponsor the Yamaha dealership in Canada.
Star Yamaha racing
Yamaha corporate racing
Tim cotter
Brian deegan
Haiden deegan
AMA director who office was shared with Tim Cotter and was in the the meeting according to racer x online article as they also shared that office.
We have only heard from engine builder and Schofield the kid not the dad.
And he didn't say tell us he got 2 engines and is being flown to California to Ride test a factory star Yamaha racing 250.
He said in his interview he was pressured big time, but he would have sold bike back to deegans for Price he bought it for after he rode it and made you tube video of it.
Only heard from schofield, engine builder, racer x
I guess my biggest issues with this are 2 fold: the Deegans and Yamaha. First, it is rediculuous they are bringing that tech to an amateur race more less a b class race. Then refuse to let the bike go and threathen peoples livelihoods with credible claims that the owner of the kids sponsoring dealership being called by Yamaha and talks of the kid not getting a factory ride if he claimed the bike. There should be sanctions levied for that alone by the ama. Cronyism at its best where obvious Yamaha has way to much influence over the ama and the rules only apply to the "little people". The deagans also obviously think the rules don't apply to them. Honestly been skeptical of them as anyone not liking travis Pastrana is questionable imo. Pastrana would race anything anywhere, now we know the deegans will only race with a far superior advantage to the competition and not follow the rules. The deegans are dead to me and are what we need gone from the sport or it will be ruined. Obvious winning races is financially beneficial for the deegans and isn't in the best interest of everyone else as far as abiding by rules as they are. My only question is did the deagans really only bring 1 bike or only 1 star racing Yamaha bike?
Over react much? Do you think this is new? Dmc and rudy and dean bikes were factory level 80s.
Never cared for papa Deegan. Hailey seems like a nice girl. Mother needs to stay away from the Botox.
Great point about the bike, probably has more than one, i would imagine. Also haiden can ride for sure, in a way he just got caught up in the mess. Although I heard he was stalking the claimant at one point to find his pits.
@@chriszbodula1894 🤣
The "Deegens" didn't bring the bike AT ALL ! Star racing Yamaha pays Haiden to ride THEIR bikes, so the Deegens didn't do anything that ANY father would do for his kid. Put yourself in their position for one minute. Haiden still had to race the next day, I'm sure they were freaking out when this first happened too.
So it's been planned for months and with in 2 minutes of the video he pretty much clears the bike from being a "pro" bike. He said it's self it don't even sound the same. He helped deegan with this more than he did brennan.he actually kinda threw Brennan under the bus too
He's trying to save face so his business isn't damaged. He absolutely wanted to see the inside of the bike. The kid talked about taking it apart & doing RUclips vids on it. No doubt HARRIS put that idea in his mind.
Hats off to you Cooksey for sticking with this story. I'm interested to see how this turns out, or maybe this is the last of it. Please continue to follow this story. If people don't want to hear about it they don't have to click on the video.
The story was dropped when the claim was retracted. There is no story, it's over. Why do people keep bringing it up. The premier motocross track in America was just destroyed this weekend to make more money and no cares about that!
@@jamesadams2334 it's interesting to hear what goes on behind the scenes. If this type of content doesn't interest you then watch something else. The story may not be over. Issues could arise from having the kid alone with no representation.
Mickey Boone claiming a pro bike decades ago was a major controversy. It was a works bike.
yamaha stinks after all this
His statement at the end is what everyones missing. The rule states THE BIKE MUST BE TURNED OVER IMMEDIATELY. Deegan wasnt even done racing. No wonder Deegan/Yamaha got a bit pissed.
That is what I said as soon as this came out! Haiden still had to race and would not been able to!! Because you ate only allowed 1 bike!! Of course they would be pissed!! Plus Yamaha was protecting the bike from Industrial sabotage..The Kod did say he did it so his engine builder could look at the engine!
And what did they think was going to happen going after the bike!!
And it was not even Haidens bike it is stars..I hated the attacks on the Deegans when it was not even them who went after the Kid! And using Haiden and the word Cheating in the same sentence was not kool in my book! And people should apologize for that! And the ugly tweets they posted about the Family!! Like Cheater Boy and ignorant crap like that!!
Turned over immediately to be tagged. That’s it. Any work or prep for the following races would still be granted under supervision of the AMA.
@@slayer6936 No Brennon did not say that he wanted it for his engine builder to look at it. But even if you want to think that, it’s no one’s business what he’s gonna do with the bike. And yes, the Deegans did go after Brennon and even followed him back to his rig and talked shit. Also Deegans have been caught cheating. DQ’d from Oak Hill for running a big bore motor. I’m not saying they were cheating at LL’s but it’s in their history.
@@abramkuhlman7201 HE did say it in one of his first statements then changed his statement.. And it is Stars bike and Deegan rides it!! This is on Star and Matt walker And it was the fans who harassed Him not Haiden! But one thing I never said was it was right for what happened! It was grown ups who created all the BS... There has been so many deffrent stores put on who said and did what!!
And another point what did they expect to happen going after stars bike! The bike is not Haidens! I know what the rules say. But if they gave up the bike according to the rules Haiden would have not been able to ride!!
The AMA AND racer x and Star handed this wrong! The AMA should have took the engine and broke it down to see if it was illegal! If so then yes he should have been disqualified.
And Star was protecting their product from Industrial espionage..Which was not right either..So you can not say Haiden was cheating you can only speculate!! And it would not have been Haiden cheating it would have been Star that gave him a bike that was illegal..Now if they tore down the bike and it was ok then what would have people said? And you have to think in my thoughts is that you are innocent until proven guilty!! But we will never know that because the AMA did not do there job like the should have done!.
@@slayer6936 Haiden and a group of his followers hopped in a side by side and followed Brennon back to his rig where they sat across the isle and talked shit. People that I know personally were parked two spots down from Brennon and heard, saw and even took pictures of them. And yes, Haiden would have been able to ride. They tag the bike and an AMA official stays with the bike while any maintenance is being done. Everyone on the Deegan side including Yamaha USA, Tim C, Dave C, and Matt W were bullies and the AMA was incompetent.
I can’t believe how many people in the comment section are willing to put aside their morals bc of their love for the Deegans. The Deegans wouldn’t skip a beat to do the same to you. Lol.
Thank God for the TRUTH, Cooksey & Derek ,thank you.
Where was Brennen's dad? Who on earth allows a minor to be questioned by 2 adults.
Exactly... Its like my union officers... My company supervisors KNOW they aren't allowed to speak to me without union representatives in the room. Same goes here.
Two bullies named Brian Deegan and Tim Cotter.
At least we all know now the bigger you are in the sport the less the rules apply to you .
Great job Chris and thank for your participation Derek. Reminds me of our own government and our "rights". As long as you don't create a wave you can drive your boat through here.
Why haven’t the AMA opened up the engine and checked it out since the drama unfolded? that would surely help in some way or other
Someone has to file the protest and put up the money. Won’t happen otherwise.
opening it up would be useless. it was in the mod class.. you can build it as much as you want.. there is not cheating useless you start talking big bore
You only open it if you’re protesting. It wasn’t a protest.
Okay nice one I didn’t know about that thanks for the info 👍
All the people who are actually employed by companies will be placing the blame on Matt Walker. He’s the scapegoat. He’s why he was the one making the text and calls. Plausible deniability. Donnie Luce sealed his fate when him and Matt conspired to intimidate a minor. Tim Cotter sealed his fate when he allowed a minor to be in a room with him and Brian Deegan only for 20 min of intimidation. The actions of grown men in this case is what’s the most damning. They will try to spin it anyway they can to downplay their involvement. But with that said it’s obvious this was completely their decisions that ultimately, and hopefully will get Matt, Tim, and Donnie looking for new jobs. The fact they did this to a minor is the most disturbing. Don’t let these men gaslight and cover their tracks. They should all be held accountable. But Matt Walker in my opinion should be the one we focus on the most. He works for himself and ultimately can walk away without any retribution. His actions were the most abhorrent. How the hell is Matt allowed to be around minors after this?
That mechanic want works engine so bad he could taste it lol
I highly dislike bullies and cheaters. I'll never buy a product from anyone who supports the Cheatan Deegans, including anyone Matt Walker supports, or anyone Star Racing supports. My money will never be used to buy another Yamaha product.
Wah wah
Lmao
Yamaha have dirt on their hands, as a corporation they need to hold the individuals who participate in bullying and intimidation accountable.
Let’s not Me 2 these guys either.
After hearing this guy speak about, I'm starting to feel less sorry for them. First off, the rule was broken. Once the bike was claimed, it no longer belongs to the previous owner. And the new owners can do whatever they want with it. So why even try to tell them you'll promise not to open it up? That was a mistake, in my opinion. Secondly, based on the way the conversations were going at the time, they should have recognized the damaged was already done. They were now in a, "no turning back" situation. The promoter hassled them. Yamaha hassled them. Brian hassled them. And someone was threatening to interfere with the kids Yamaha support. All bully tactics. Even after they dropped the claim, many respectable sources in the moto media were still bashing them. And that will continue. So, they should have held there ground and taken the bike. Then started the negotiations once they had the bike. The rule is the rule and everyone knew it. In my opinion the only appreciate action by Yamaha or Star, would have been offering to buy the bike back. At whatever price the kid wanted. And the AMA should have 100% backed whatever decision the kid made.
Instead they used strong arm tactics. Now, he gets on hear wanting to apologize about what happened. Afraid to name names. And looking at it from their perspective to justify their actions. Well, good luck with that. The people who stood in the way of the claim, will never have a kind word to say about him and the kid. And neither will the millions of rabid The Degan's fans. The kid and his engine guy were in the right the whole time. Unfortunately their names will probably be drug through the mud, by the moto elites, from now on. They truly let a golden opportunity slip out of their hands.
It’s not time to “sweep this under the rug” yet.
"You Can't Always Get What You Want, But If You Try Sometimes...." Rolling Stones
Sounds like bullshit to me. This guy was defo part of the claim.
So Yamaha brought a bike and hoped no one would claim it. But it backfired on them.
Per the rules the bike was legal but also open for Claiming.
How do we know it’s legal?
If Brennan was my son I'd be pretty upset about this shit!!
Derek bored ported and honed a yz125 for me several years ago and boy does this guy know how to make a 2 stroke sing. Now it’s a 144 and she’s a rippa. He’s builds a better top end than anyone around. Funny that he’s in this middle of the drama. He’s a great guy.
great interview cookery! Derek is very well spoken and I feel like im hearing a very authentic side of the story.
Cooksey, I just want to say you have done an outstanding job covering this. I think some others have tried to spin this for whatever reasons.
If RC was there the deal would have went through no questions asked. This is sad but I'm glad these young men are at least getting good publicity.
Unsubbed from Deegans.
And yes you can make it a legal matter.
If he was the person secretly claiming the bike then wouldn't you wanna distance yourself instead of being on front row ??
Great point
The motor builder Derek and the Kid that made the claim, could do anything they wanted had the claim gone through. TBH, why would they threaten the kids sponsors Yamaha Dealership if they were on less than factory equipment... It looks more they had a factory pro bike at a amateur B Class National... I still love the Deegans... but it's a corporate move on this one... and the kid was in the middle of trying to execute his right and was coerced by adults not to... that's how it looks from all interviews so far... and the money would have been there to reverse engineer and prototype... it would have shown up upon that bike being claimed... it was a huge deal gone wrong for the kid.
This is a huge wound for Amateur mx. Now it's factories on one level and no one else can compete, why should anyone bother.
Nah, just a black eye for Deegans, Star and Yamaha.
I wish Matt Walker would fuckin talk to me like that. 👊🏻😆
Hey man I've never commented on anyone's RUclips but I just want to say thanks for the moto news keep it up love the channel
F Matt Walker....
I’m disappointed at this. Proof that the powerful abuse their power. Their perspective doesn’t matter. Kid claimed the bike then he SHOULD get it.
Kid retracted the claim. No story. Everyone's being bitchy about nothing and won't let it drop.
The moto industry can’t help but eat itself. Drama will be the end of what could of been. At the end of the day with out a talented rider and a factory oem helping that ride, have fun growing moto to a bigger level.
Hopefully this is the same version at the first version ?
The last one didn’t upload correctly, I had to delete and re upload. Exactly the same video
@@CookseyMedia I watched the first one all the way through, seemed to play fine. Good story. I am super surprised Deegan didn't didn't have separate bikes for the 2 classes, if nothing else for the longevity issue. Unless the engine was available due to the break in the nationals. Did you see their video showing his holeshot and that bike pull bike lengths down the start against other mod bikes?
@@BrianMcNeill25 I didn’t see that, but the kid can win on any motor IMO
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This throws shade on the Deegans but more shade on these Yamaha guys
he said it himself, hes never seen a claim go down. Its rare. It would make sense that star would never expect it to be claimed.
What Yamaha and The Deegans did is wrong. I hope something come of this.
Let’s be clear, I believe by the rules the kid should’ve got the bike, but let’s also be clear, he’s lying through his teeth, that wasn’t his money, how it went down doesn’t match up to his story. Brian Deegan was only in that room for 3 to 4 minutes, everyone says that but schofield, and on top of all that schofield has sent not to nice texts to Brian Deegan calling Haiden Names among other things, and Schofield Lied about his sponsor also, saying they took his bike because of this, but we find out that it was already planned the bikes went back after Loretta’s. Lie lie lie lie. SMH
Wow..... The truth is coming out, nice job on the interview.
Some people ask, Where was Brennan's dad? Doesn't matter, Brennan had an adult (Derek Harris) as his adult representative. Unfortunately, the adults on the other side kept telling Brennan to leave the Room. : o
Chris, Don't let this slip into the shadows of forgotten wrongs, please. Thanks!
The very reason Yamaha didn't want to let the bike go is exactly why the rule exists. Engine maker should have said, "you're goddamn right I'm going to open the engine up!"
All the bikes in mod class which this was in had atleast 15k in upgrades in parts alone.
So that's more than 2 times MSRP.
Plus claiming rule at regional event is only 1.3 times MSRP
Rule needs to be updated
Claimer rules are all over circle track and other racing venues and honestly, they use the rule fairly often. If there's a guy without much money in a claimer class where you're supposed to be limited to X amount of dollars in the enging, they can claim anyone at any race and you basically swap engines. Definitely sounds like they had special stuff in / on Haydens bike not that he needed it anyway but that really looks bad on Star's part and they're going to remember this going forward and unfortunately, I'm guessing he's going to have problems getting any Yamahas or sponsorship from Yamaha in the future.
Despite what went down its somewhat naive to think that claiming a bike from a factory sponsored rider is going to go easy. All of these “meetings” should’ve been documented. Hind sight is always 20/20, but with as many camera phones there are nowadays, you can’t swing a dead cat without someone filming it. All of this should’ve been recorded via audio or visually.. All this back and forth is beating a dead horse.. Does it look bad? Yes… Were things done by the AMA rules? Probably yes.. At the end of the day its now become all hearsay.
Its the RULE. It should be easy.
@@SOLDOZER the kid retracted the claim, it was easy. Drop it.
@@jamesadams2334 He should be riding Deegans bike this week according to the rules.
People and parents need to understand that claiming doesn't end well. Not saying it all ends like this situation did, but it ruins reputations and relationships
I have seen it in other forms of racing and while it scares people into not overspending, when they do and get claimed it ends with lots of hurt feelings and negative emotions.
Yeah, Deegans have completely ruined their rep, employing mafia tactics
@@deckard5pegasus673 pfft no way the claim was a dog sheet move
If claiming is taboo and basically nobody does it and when they do, they get black balled, why have the rule. The rule was apparently taken for granted that it wouldn't bite Star. The intensity to protect that bike tells you how much was in it.
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Deegan Deegan why not Star Yamaha ?👀
Because Deegan is the story, I’m not all about clicks, but I am not missing an opportunity to grab a few.
Cause deegans apart of this and spoke to the kid and is the problem most people have with this story
Great job Chris!! On bringing this guy on! Abd he also brought to light a lot of the drama and can you post that engine builders business I would like to send him My motor..if he does 2 strokes I like the guy!
At the very end he have his contact info.
He does. He has worked on my sons engine replacing the valves on his race bike. He absolutely does both 2 and 4 strokes. Really good dude and does great work. I’m sure you will be happy. Good luck.
@@peytonelmer5674 thank you!! Sounds like my engine is getting a face lift this winter!
@@CookseyMedia thank you I must have missed that part my dog had to go out so I left for a couple minutes!
My guess is when HP motor guy , hammered the mx sport Guy in the beginning, MX sport talked to the Mat walker guy, and said watch out for that motor builder he 's trouble. My guess they both assumed the Hp motor guy was fronting the kid for the claim, and why the Matt guy Railed the HP motor guy so aggressively.
Just my assumption, cause the Hp motor guy had alot of Hostility aimed at him, which he may have intiated, when the first dealing of the Mx sport guy, that news traveled quickly.
The Yamaha guy admitted the bike is not stock...and has alot in it...what a joke...putting a factory bike against amateurs... thought Dangerboy was the Fastest?
why does he need anything better than a Stock Yamaha??? yeah some mods..and suspension of course..but that shows they can't compete at stock...so how much does a Pro bike have that is Illegal into it ? 🤔
Only thing that would make it illegal is displacement.
@@johnh2349
that has happened before...
@@garymallard4699 sure has. The one thing I never thought of though and something someone else just brought up; there could be a power adder.
Good interview, he sounds like a stand up guy.
In this day and age pull out your phone and record everything!
You may not be able to produce the "factory parts" quickly but if there IS factory parts in the bike, that would be illegal for Lorettas. You wont need to make these parts, but what do these factory people think they're trying to get away with? Plus you can get ideas for futures bikes from these parts. He should have claimed it.
The only thing illegal would be displacement or a power adder.
Let's see how Brennan's future on a Yamaha goes
The Deegans are done that’s disrespectful for the sport !
I hope you sue Brian Deegan for the lies he said about you. Thanks for keeping up with this story.