@@2shotmj921 he should be in MVP conversations every year and he shouldn’t have nights where he’s being passive. Those are the expectations that come with being as talented as he is
i love how the most heated debate of this episode was over a player who’s spot all four guys agreed on. really shows how rankings are nothing but numbers at the end of the day.
Now that I’m bout 30 fr and wanted to do somthing similar wit my friends. I hope y’all know how much we enjoy watching y’all work together 💯💯 keep grinding T.T.W crew
Mike was just saying that AD had a short season and he was literally hobbling during the finals. Fatigue crept up on him and had a bad year. Yes, he could be great like what P said, when he is at 100%. And no, not everyone had a short season, especially not the heat and lakers. And guess what they did not perform and got bounced early in the playoffs. I don’t know why P is getting emotional 🤷♂️
Just like he has always been. Young Hakeem was a PF, Old Timmy/KG was centers, Barkley was sometimes a SF, Dirk was playing like a 7ft SG/SF. PF is a hybrid positions since the beginning of the NBA. I don't know what playing like a PF means for you outside of playing face up in the mid post. But when you see how KG, TImmy, Dirk, Malone, Barkley, McHale, Rodman or Webber, some should be centers and others should be SF and it's normal
Giannis should 100% be number one. He beat KD, put up all time historic numbers in the finals. The argument for KD seems to rest on the Olympics which is bizarre.
KD is a foot on the line away from beating the bucks without Kyrie and Harden... Giannis should get the nod cause of the finals but KD has a very strong case as well.
Or the fact that KD took giannis to 7 by his damn self while giannis had middleton who averaged 25 and 9 and jrue clutching up defensively. Kd scored more, assisted more, including 49 point triple double game 5 and a record 48 pts in game 7, hell he would've damn well won if his shoe was 1 size smaller. Middleton led the bucks in scoring in 2 out of their 4 wins while kd had 0 help
I am a big AD fan since his Kentucky days, continue to be a fan through his pelican days while being a Lakers fan, so I was ecstatic when he came to the lakers. Got his jersey and everything, but I totally agree with Pierre. He needs to step it up and be in the MVP conversation this year.
Although what P said about LeBron not willing to take the last shot wasn't true at all. He just always one to make the right plays rather than just run out the clock and go iso when 5seconds remaining
"He's hurt" yeah sure AD was hurt, but KD came back from an Achilles and dominated, Giannis came off a hyperextended knee and dominated. AD is an incredible talent but unfortunately, largely due to thing out of his control he doesn't produce at their levels right now
@@SAMS-69 with AD you're comparing one season where he had injuries with other seasons he had injuries, and off that last season was his worst for some time
@@fusionheee7507 KD also came off a significantly worse injury, one that is known to either end careers or permanently effect the players ability, and yet it looked like he didn't even lose a step. Obviously not a direct comp, more just saying that AD gets excused for being injured when others who also get injured don't have the same negative downturn. I love AD and think he's prob the second most talented guy on the list, but his production whether injured or not hasn't been to that level
KD came into the season healthy and STILL missed a shit load of games. Ad and KD played similar amount of games. Ad came into the season injured. Huge difference.
AD was injured more than healthy last season. Injuries gotta be a factor when judging a players performance. P was wrong in his criticism, not because of what he said, but because of why he said it. Short off season, shortened season, missed more than half the season, got hurt in the playoffs cause he was rushing back from the regular season injury. Dude was hurt..and that's all that needs to be said. Watching him give it a go in that game 6 showed me more than I needed to see. He got heart. His body isn't durable
Fax... I dunno but I disagree on that one. Just like a year ago everyone was saying AD was the best bigman in the league but right now after 1 bad season everyone was saying ur delusional if u said he is bettern than Joel and Jokic
@@rlmalonzo1184 even after Lakers title I still believed that Jokic was the best big man in the league. Actually this title is between Jokic, AD, Embiid and Giannis. But since amongst all of them AD is not number 1 of his team and is by far the one with the most help, I don't think that we're judging them fairly enough
P was right about people falling in love with the idea of AD , he went a lil too hard lol but quiet as kept Giannis has surpassed AD & I believe it will continue .
Lebron James has the most playoff Game-winners in playoff history and Pierre still sticking with the false narrative that Lebron doesn't take the last shot. Shits ridiculous 😂
You not considering context. It’s hard not to have the most when you been in the league for 17 years as a #1 option, and you’re In Multiple close games every series in the weakest conference ever. He’s not NOT clutch, but he does look to pass first in those moments, that’s just a fact.
Mike ain’t never watched Zion a day in his life lol. Bro has a bag.. he’s not just a dunker lol... bro is the best attacker of the rim that’s ever been seen
I swear none of them watched Zion last season 😂 dudes finesse around the rim is unmatched in today’s nba and his handle is very underrated. He does playmake very well for barely beginning to handle the ball and near the end of the season I saw him taking more midrange jumpers which will expand his game. And he does do pick and rolls during games I swear they didn’t watch Zion, just looked at his stats and name, and I love TTW but they missed on some of their points on the Zion take.
Mike such a hypocrite for giving Ad every excuse for having an inconsistent series while injured, while they were just talking bout Embiid not scoring in the 2nd half of a playoff game when he was playing injured and played a better series than AD did
Coz the excuse for AD was valid. He only played 3games in the playoffs this year, last year when he plays he is dominating as well as the last playoffs he play before that. AD was just injured, we all know when healthy he is top 8 talent in the league. Maybe what is wrong is he didn't say the same for others
Literally discusses his resume at an even earlier age than KD is currently…. Somehow its unanimous that KD is ahead of Giannis. They gave no reasons for having KD number one 😂
If we being real Giannis is 1. Unfortunately people just rate offense way higher than defense for some reason even tho the difference between Giannis and KD offensively is definitely smaller than defensively
As a lakers fan the passion Mike speaks about AD is beautiful. P was speaking facts and I am not denying it but AD is due for an mvp caliber season with his long offseason and new roster.
P bron literally has the most clutch shots in NBA history and is the most efficient clutch shooter based on the number of shots he's taken. Yes, that means better than kobe, and better than Mike.
We all know all 4 of this Guys having a hard time giving LeBron proper credit tho. But u can't blame them, they are from chicago, so. But yeah, he's actually the most clutch in history of the league and in sometimes he pass the ball not because he's afraid of the moment but bcoz he still wants to make the right play rather than just go iso in the clutch.
@@itsgl00my88 Not all playoff clutch shots are equal. Like a clutch shot in Game 2 or 3 isn’t the same as a closing game in a series. MJ made his playoff clutch shots in games where there was more on the line. That is what higher leverage means. Not taking away from LeBron, but MJ was another level
Mike is right AD was hurt throughout the playoffs and the Lakers did have the shortest off-season. Give him a full off-season and watch what he does. P stats were correct but there is context.
Have y’all seen the Let’s Keep It A Buck podcast with those guests with the horrendous takes? I think TTW should react to some of those takes from that episode, they’d have a field day ngl
If P miss one more episode we signing Max kellerman outta free agency
He would want some bags yfm
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
HE WANTS IGUADALA
lmfao
Pierre: “I ain’t doing that violence shit”
Also Pierre: *swings on Dmills for saying lillard better than prime Drose 😂😂
No one:
Pierre every 3 episodes :"we need better communication between us we don't hang out enough"
lmao KB be on that too. i dont blame em tho - i got a friend group like them too
Bro thats why they are so good every friend group got a Pierre, a Kenny a derrick and a Mike. It’s just the boys chillin and talking ball
That what they have that no one else does honestly
Haha v
@@name_of_personcant_think_o1641 and over there
Pierre really hit the nail on the head when he said the idea of AD is better than AD… felt the same way for a while but couldn’t put it into words
So the idea of a DPOY-caliber, offensive superstar, nba champion is better than a DPOY-caliber, offensive superstar, nba champion? Wtf
@@2shotmj921 yup
@@2shotmj921 the thought of AD is better, just like on your list.. you forgot and didn’t even have a “Thought” of Injury..
@@2shotmj921 he should be in MVP conversations every year and he shouldn’t have nights where he’s being passive. Those are the expectations that come with being as talented as he is
@@sorryidgaf.6043 That could literally go for any NBA player then
“We talking about a guy “ finna be just as iconic as “through the wire “
Dmills: “We talking about a guy..”
Mike: “his ass..” (⏸ if applicable)
Pierre: *creates new word*
All we need is an iconic KB-ism
Where did it originate from? I wanna go back and watch it
@@arshaddahlan From the debate episode
DMillls sits like a dad proud of his son
Who’s his son? 🤔😮
🤣🤣🤣Thats my Boy
Yea man and his son came back to the show after missing some time. Has every right to be proud 😂👌🏾
i love how the most heated debate of this episode was over a player who’s spot all four guys agreed on. really shows how rankings are nothing but numbers at the end of the day.
fax bro
We need to appreciate how good the recording studio looks with the jerseys and pictures, it doesn’t get enough recognition
@bennett no I am lactose intolerant
If people aren’t saying anything, that means they’re not saying anything negative, so they did something right
We need a comp of D Mills happiness every time P goes after Mike, TTWClips
That P violent stuff is hilarious 😂
Now that I’m bout 30 fr and wanted to do somthing similar wit my friends. I hope y’all know how much we enjoy watching y’all work together 💯💯 keep grinding T.T.W crew
🙏🏽
Kenny Dressed like Ash Ketchum
W
😭😭😭
I don’t see anyone talking about it but Kenny’s shorts are pure fire 🔥🔥🔥
DMills hitting the “we’re talking about a guy” then laughing right after had me dying😂😂such a goated pod, y’all keep killing it
Mike was just saying that AD had a short season and he was literally hobbling during the finals. Fatigue crept up on him and had a bad year. Yes, he could be great like what P said, when he is at 100%. And no, not everyone had a short season, especially not the heat and lakers. And guess what they did not perform and got bounced early in the playoffs. I don’t know why P is getting emotional 🤷♂️
He gets so emotional for no reason
PF has to be one of the most boring/nonexistent positions in the NBA right now. Like they said, most PF aren't even really PF.
Nowadays in crunch time, power forwards turn into centers and small towards turn into power forwards
Just like he has always been. Young Hakeem was a PF, Old Timmy/KG was centers, Barkley was sometimes a SF, Dirk was playing like a 7ft SG/SF.
PF is a hybrid positions since the beginning of the NBA. I don't know what playing like a PF means for you outside of playing face up in the mid post.
But when you see how KG, TImmy, Dirk, Malone, Barkley, McHale, Rodman or Webber, some should be centers and others should be SF and it's normal
Giannis should 100% be number one. He beat KD, put up all time historic numbers in the finals. The argument for KD seems to rest on the Olympics which is bizarre.
He didn’t beat KD
KD is a foot on the line away from beating the bucks without Kyrie and Harden... Giannis should get the nod cause of the finals but KD has a very strong case as well.
Not to mention defensively Giannis blows KD out the water
Or the fact that KD took giannis to 7 by his damn self while giannis had middleton who averaged 25 and 9 and jrue clutching up defensively. Kd scored more, assisted more, including 49 point triple double game 5 and a record 48 pts in game 7, hell he would've damn well won if his shoe was 1 size smaller. Middleton led the bucks in scoring in 2 out of their 4 wins while kd had 0 help
@@shortyned7140 Middleton disappear in game 7 and Jrue had a very bad offensive series. At the end Giannis was the one who made the difference
I am a big AD fan since his Kentucky days, continue to be a fan through his pelican days while being a Lakers fan, so I was ecstatic when he came to the lakers. Got his jersey and everything, but I totally agree with Pierre. He needs to step it up and be in the MVP conversation this year.
Although what P said about LeBron not willing to take the last shot wasn't true at all.
He just always one to make the right plays rather than just run out the clock and go iso when 5seconds remaining
@@rlmalonzo1184 like against heat when he passed to a open Danny green
@@rlmalonzo1184 and he got criticized even tho Danny was open and bron was triple teamed
Glad to see P back from the hangover
P at 8:14 : “there’s cobwebs back here”
He miss one episode and his spot gettin dusty
"He's hurt" yeah sure AD was hurt, but KD came back from an Achilles and dominated, Giannis came off a hyperextended knee and dominated. AD is an incredible talent but unfortunately, largely due to thing out of his control he doesn't produce at their levels right now
AD had more injured games than played games. Thats like if I looked at 2020 and said "bro KD had such a down year" like no shit he was hurt
@@SAMS-69 with AD you're comparing one season where he had injuries with other seasons he had injuries, and off that last season was his worst for some time
KD took all his time and recovered from his injury this is an idiotic comparison
@@fusionheee7507 KD also came off a significantly worse injury, one that is known to either end careers or permanently effect the players ability, and yet it looked like he didn't even lose a step. Obviously not a direct comp, more just saying that AD gets excused for being injured when others who also get injured don't have the same negative downturn. I love AD and think he's prob the second most talented guy on the list, but his production whether injured or not hasn't been to that level
KD came into the season healthy and STILL missed a shit load of games. Ad and KD played similar amount of games. Ad came into the season injured. Huge difference.
“If you’re afraid to fail, then you’re probably going to fail. “ -Kobe Bryant
Pee had me standing up at my tv clapping at this nigga Pee going at Mike about AD. TALK YA SHIT PEE 😂😂😂
Good looks I needed this for my badge grind
Fax
Man that AD argument was so entertaining
Kenny stay shouting me out ✊
You sound needy
Yo videos funny
Pierre was saying all the right shit about AD, Mike smoking that Lakers pack
Fuck AD being hurt mike sounded hurt lol
The only thing P fights for is for awesome NBA content for the viewersssss!
AD was injured more than healthy last season. Injuries gotta be a factor when judging a players performance. P was wrong in his criticism, not because of what he said, but because of why he said it. Short off season, shortened season, missed more than half the season, got hurt in the playoffs cause he was rushing back from the regular season injury. Dude was hurt..and that's all that needs to be said. Watching him give it a go in that game 6 showed me more than I needed to see. He got heart. His body isn't durable
Fax... I dunno but I disagree on that one. Just like a year ago everyone was saying AD was the best bigman in the league but right now after 1 bad season everyone was saying ur delusional if u said he is bettern than Joel and Jokic
Anthony “Day To Day” Davis
@@icommentsometimes I hate that this is hilarious
@@rlmalonzo1184 even after Lakers title I still believed that Jokic was the best big man in the league. Actually this title is between Jokic, AD, Embiid and Giannis. But since amongst all of them AD is not number 1 of his team and is by far the one with the most help, I don't think that we're judging them fairly enough
“If you don’t wanna lose, you gotta win” - Mike 😂😂💀 1:14:49
This shows how underrated Siakam is he’s at least with Randle but you really had him at 8 if you would put him on the list that’s crazy
Absolutely. Siakam, Sabonis, Randle in the same mix.
@@shaq1056 siakam a tier above
I was having Joe Budden podcast flashbacks with the fake bickering. Lol
On god! Lmaooo
Love this pod. Just wish the audio volume was more consistently
Bro D Mills saying “so hard” like that made me lose my shit 😂
P was right about people falling in love with the idea of AD , he went a lil too hard lol but quiet as kept Giannis has surpassed AD & I believe it will continue .
Yo can we get an episode where you guys predict the over or under on regular season wins would be cool to look back on at end of season
I’m just mad that Andre 3000 bar went over all their heads😂😂😂
New thumbnails is fire y’all growth is crazy
Mike ain’t have the same energy for Jimmy Butler that he had for AD
Coz AD just hurt. We all know AD can dominate
I chipped my tooth today so the podcast makes it the day better
I’m sorry to hear that I hope your doing better, God bless you!
sorry to hear that g, i just got my tooth chipped & fixed last month and i can tell you it hurts sm😭😭. good luck brotha
@@SalSanchez thank you
@@themacaronibear2492 thanks
Oof I’m sorry bro.
Lebron James has the most playoff Game-winners in playoff history and Pierre still sticking with the false narrative that Lebron doesn't take the last shot. Shits ridiculous 😂
I mean it makes sense when you barely remember anything from lebron except that block
Fr I fw Pierre but he gotta stop that narrative
@@joskaizer9521 dosent make sense at all, just shows your lack of watching games and believing others instead of searching yourself
@@23anderz fax
You not considering context. It’s hard not to have the most when you been in the league for 17 years as a #1 option, and you’re In Multiple close games every series in the weakest conference ever. He’s not NOT clutch, but he does look to pass first in those moments, that’s just a fact.
Dmills stealin the I Choose U lyric 😂 first minute
P was truly missed, everyone played their part but the missing link is back to make the team whole again!!!!
Mike not backing down is nice to hear
Pop Quiz P back from anger management. Great to see my boi
bro perfect, i didn’t have school today cause i’m sick, i just got cfa too, perfect
59:52 Pierre almost 💩his pants when dmills called AD a big
somebody need to clip what P was saying and send it to AD
love you guys dawg yall make my day
Loving the new thumbnails 🔥😮💨
My top 10 power forwards:
Giannis
AD
Zion
Randle
Siakam
Draymond
Tobias
John Collins
Porzingis
Jaren Jackson Jr
KD???
@@Amaanti206 He's a hybrd forward but if you count him as power forward for this season ok.
Sabonis?
@@houstonrockets8662 imo he's a center that lacks 3 point shooting.
Zion not better than Randle
Mike inna Thumbnail Witha "Mike" at his lips I know it gotta b Some Controversy🤣😭🤣😭🤣
Through the wirrreeeeeeee. Perfect timing for the perfect podcast
I can't wait for the kenny and dmills only episode cause mike and p got into a fistfight over AD
This man P pulled a Capri Sun out the sunken place 🤣
P: Why would I fight somebody?
Also P: *starts an argument with DMills every episode*
You guys should revisit the John Wall v Ben Simmons debate , that was a good ass debate lmaoo
Point Zion worked pretty well last season on a pretty good sample size🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Dmillz got my eardrums bleeding from laughing in that mic lmaoo
This nigga P such a hot head lmao, it’s great entertainment
D Mills says 4 words then:"HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!"
Mike was about to cry from P going off about AD
This is the meme episode for top 10 power forwards lol.
TOP 3 episode ever in ttw history
Mike ain’t never watched Zion a day in his life lol. Bro has a bag.. he’s not just a dunker lol... bro is the best attacker of the rim that’s ever been seen
I swear none of them watched Zion last season 😂 dudes finesse around the rim is unmatched in today’s nba and his handle is very underrated. He does playmake very well for barely beginning to handle the ball and near the end of the season I saw him taking more midrange jumpers which will expand his game. And he does do pick and rolls during games I swear they didn’t watch Zion, just looked at his stats and name, and I love TTW but they missed on some of their points on the Zion take.
Why was I CRYING the last minute 💀💀
Tim Duncan had one hell of a resume at age 26 too
Welcome back P 🙏🏼
Real ones remember p telling us he was gonna miss the Saturday pod
Loving the new thumbnails 🔥🔥
“Zion recharging that stamina bar” 😂😂
Mike such a hypocrite for giving Ad every excuse for having an inconsistent series while injured, while they were just talking bout Embiid not scoring in the 2nd half of a playoff game when he was playing injured and played a better series than AD did
because one didnt even look like his normal self while Embiid did
Coz the excuse for AD was valid. He only played 3games in the playoffs this year, last year when he plays he is dominating as well as the last playoffs he play before that.
AD was just injured, we all know when healthy he is top 8 talent in the league.
Maybe what is wrong is he didn't say the same for others
Literally discusses his resume at an even earlier age than KD is currently…. Somehow its unanimous that KD is ahead of Giannis. They gave no reasons for having KD number one 😂
If we being real Giannis is 1. Unfortunately people just rate offense way higher than defense for some reason even tho the difference between Giannis and KD offensively is definitely smaller than defensively
Pierre always looking for someone to back him up in debates and goes to dmills since he know dmills will just agree
As a lakers fan the passion Mike speaks about AD is beautiful. P was speaking facts and I am not denying it but AD is due for an mvp caliber season with his long offseason and new roster.
I can’t lie it hit different when P do it
P said he would miss last episode so I ain’t tripping lol
Welcome back P!
Shoutout for the love shown to Sabonis!
I cannot confidently say AD is more skilled than Embiid!!! Speed and passing are the only things I can say AD may be better at
I’d say he’s a better shooter as well and defense is debatable
@@6secsofcj37 i'd say AD is the better defender. And AD has a very consistent floater
@@rlmalonzo1184 Embiid has a better midrange and post package, and can also get to the line easier.
@@6secsofcj37 AD can defend the perimeter better, but Embiid can lockdown the paint more, so I’ll give you debatable
P bron literally has the most clutch shots in NBA history and is the most efficient clutch shooter based on the number of shots he's taken. Yes, that means better than kobe, and better than Mike.
We all know all 4 of this Guys having a hard time giving LeBron proper credit tho. But u can't blame them, they are from chicago, so.
But yeah, he's actually the most clutch in history of the league and in sometimes he pass the ball not because he's afraid of the moment but bcoz he still wants to make the right play rather than just go iso in the clutch.
Jordan made those clutch shots in higher leverage games than the clutch shots LeBron made. Still respect to LeBron though for all of that
@@ballforever2637 what do you mean lmao bron also leads in playoff clutch shots 😂
@@itsgl00my88 Not all playoff clutch shots are equal. Like a clutch shot in Game 2 or 3 isn’t the same as a closing game in a series. MJ made his playoff clutch shots in games where there was more on the line. That is what higher leverage means. Not taking away from LeBron, but MJ was another level
@@ballforever2637 bro stop it. The amount of times bron has saved his shitty teams bacon in crucial situations is ridiculous.
P said word for word he wasn’t gonna be on the saturday pod so we see who really watching the videos all the way through
Dmills vs Pierre in a wrestling match for that belt Dmills has
Pierre is a huge instigator, but swear he's about peace. LOL!
9:12 d mills yawns and puts the mic closer his mouth 😭
Bro P carried this one🔥
Nobody carries. They all great every time
1.KD
2.Giannis
3.AD
4.Zion
5.Randle
6.Siakam
7.Sabonis
8.Harris
9.Draymond
10.Collins
When the list gets finished it should effectively be the top 50 players so theres gotta be a ranking 1-50.
Mike is right AD was hurt throughout the playoffs and the Lakers did have the shortest off-season. Give him a full off-season and watch what he does. P stats were correct but there is context.
Have y’all seen the Let’s Keep It A Buck podcast with those guests with the horrendous takes? I think TTW should react to some of those takes from that episode, they’d have a field day ngl
It aint even a good pod anyway. I fw sage and bsolz though.
@@daisawamura1948 I also like Dom2K when he’s there
What episode?
@@alejandromarmolejo13 the one from like last week with DTP Ent
1:09:17 Mike knew what he was doin 😂
Easy for Collins to guard Randle when Randle went left EVERY OFFENSIVE POSSESSION
Dude they tripled teamed him
@@drewp839 every star gets triple teamed in the playoffs
@@bilindabutcher8913 Ik, this was a little more than normal but that’s the point Collins didn’t really do much
That boy P got secret compartments
1. Giannis
2. Kd
Them 4s looking clean D Mills 👀
MIKE WITH THE FRESH CUT
I kinda agree with DMills that Reddish needs a better opportunity to reach his potential. Being a sixth i think will limit him.
Kenny face on d mills John Collins comment 😂😂
Notice how quiet P is when kenny disagrees w him compared to mike and Dmills
Not always the case. I’ve seen them debate
that ep was the cream of the crop! if someone ask me "why should I watch/listen to ttw?" I'll show this one