Pierre is also wrong about D Russell, he will touch the ball most every possession because of the way the warriors run their offense. I hate how he gets on Mike so much just cuz Mike isn’t that good at debating and explaining himself, Russell will touch the ball a lot because the warriors pass a lot
Super Mega Foxy Awesome Hot They don’t understand the Warriors offense it’s a lot of ball movement to get Steph or Klay open. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dlo is the primary ball handler and Steph Curry plays the 2 a lot of the season
exactly, tho mike did explain it properly , pierre just straight up stupid and ignorant af..hoh gotta replace him...hella annoying,stupid, and ignorant
To be fair, there’s a lot of points they get off fast breaks or curry dribbling up and pulling up for 3 so I would say him touching it half of the time is fair
I was just about to comment that. It ain’t like Steph gonna roll up 4 possessions in a row and pull up off a pick & roll. D-Lo is gonna be like that Kevin Durant type shot creator and allow Steph to work off ball. Each GS possession is gonna have 3-4 passes, and those passes ain’t heading to Alfonzo McKinnie more than D’Angelo Russel.
Why the fk P is sitting there with the airpods in? Are you listening to the music at the same time bro? That would explain why you never hear what other people are saying.
@@tdot8645 idk If it have to do with his skin color but I do think he overrate Devin Booker in my opinion. I think he said one of the videos that Devin Booker is better than Donovan Mitchell at least Donovan Mitchell got out the first round and made the playoffs when Devin Booker haven't even sniff the playoffs lol. But in terms of the skin tone thing brownskin lightskin darkskin same shit just different shades of brown.
Fox > Trae currently. Fox averaging barely worse numbers, but much better efficiency. He is a much better defender and almost led Kings to the playoffs in a Western conference where 13 teams could've made the playoffs
@@Grind2Excellence Trae: Better shooter and Passer De'Aaron: Better Athlete, Defender, and Finisher around the Rim Difficulty in terms of Layups is subjective I'd argue Trae has a tougher time to to lack of size and athleticism but De'Aaron acceleration/deceleration and attacking awkward angles at bigger(in terms of muscle) dudes on fast breaks or Half court sets
@@probablyDae5832 Fox is def a better passer considering he makes smarter passes even if Trae might have more highlight passes. But cuz Fox makes smarter and better overall passes that get to his teammates in the right areas he is better
Real NBA Mixes Nah Trae Young is definitely the better playmaker, but Fox is the better all around Point Guard plus he is one season more experienced so he should be the better PG
Kenny, D Mills, Mike: mentions kyrie irving Pierre: 5 minute speech on how the celtics situation wasnt kyrie's fault I swear this happens on every podcast 🙄
It literally was wtf there is a story that stated he was plotting to leave since December lmaooo. He had 2 good playoff games out of 9!! And shot 34% the last 4 games vs the Bucks shooting 20+ shots how the fuxk is that not your fault? You got outplayed by George Hill stop making excuses. For example Dame got shitted on and he never made an excuse for playing bad on his ribs he just said it is difficult to breath and that’s it when clearly it bothered him he got tired but his center stood up for him after they got eliminated by saying he had to deal with 3 bodies in front of him every possession “essentially saying anyone but you Damian Lillard.” It happens every fucking time that nigga is brought up
The People's Mix 😂 you wasted just as much time typing as Pierre explains kyrie’s situation every video we know bro you don’t have to tell us that it was his fault it’s a toxic situation mate
The People's Mix 😂 so I’m a kid? But aiiight they went to a game 7 against a CAVS TEAM THAT HAD LEBRON JAMES KEVIN LOVE AND some other role players with no defense btw and lots of young talent going against the arguable coach of the year that season plus a young stud in Jayson Tatum surrounded by great pieces
Why does Pierre get so aggressive. He acts like nobody can have an opinion. People like him, are people I wouldn't entertain having a conversation with.
I’m glad Mike asked “whats draymond gonna do when he catches the ball?” I was thinking the exact same thing. Too bad Pierre was to busy shouting to listen to what Mike had to say.
My top 10 pg list (if anyone wants to debate reply cause I’m all for it) (if u switch my 2 and 3 I won’t argue it cause I think there are in the same level 1. Steph Curry 2.Kyrie Irving(interchangeable with dame) 3.Dame lillard (interchangeable with Kyrie) 4.Russ Westbrook 5.Kemba Walker 6.Ben Simmons 7.D’Angelo Russell 8.D Foxx 9.Trae Young 10.Cp3
Kyle Lowry deadass dropped 26, 10 & 7 in a close out game 6 in Golden State for a championship and didn't make two of yall lists? LMAO the disrespect smh.
Jae Raptors even after the 0 pts he bounced back super well in the Orlando series. Didn’t play as well in the philly series but he still made some really key plays.
Jacob Hamilton I use that argument because thought u watched it you didn’t pay attention. Kyle Lowry was one of the sole reasons they stayed alive in majority of the ECF and finals. I don’t look at his PPG much last the last season because he really wasn’t needed in terms of dropping 20+. A 13-14 point game was more than enough for him. I watch for his impact, hustle and playmaking. The man is a straight winner and he does anything it takes to achieve that. Didn’t choke when it mattered most in the ECF or finals.
Jacob Hamilton what I base most of my ranking is on a decent regular season. Though he was injured for a good chunk of that too this year. And a pretty solid playoff run. That’s why I can not currently put Ben or DLO or any young guy over him. The numbers are there in the regular season but they just havnt gotten far enough in the playoffs to show they can preform when their weaknesses are being exploited
1) Curry 2) Irving 3) Lillard 4) Walker 5) Westbrook 6) Holiday 7) Simmons 8) Russell 9) Conley 10) Fox Honorable Mention: J Murray I don't know why Jrue Holiday was not mentioned in the video. Do they not consider him a PG or just not have him top 10?
@@stonwin620 I disagree. Holiday is one of the best guard defenders in the league. He also averaged 21.1 points on 47% shooting. 5 rebounds and 7.7 assists.
@@juniorsoto1997 I looked on Basketball reference and he is listed as a point guard and shooting guard. I thought they listed primary position first. I guess they don't. So move everyone else up a spot and add Trae Young as the Honorable Mention.
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1. Stephen Curry 2. Damian Lillard 3. Russell Westbrook 4. Kyrie Irving 5. Ben Simmons 6. Kemba Walker 7. Chris Paul 8. Kyle Lowry 9. Mike Conley 10. Jamal Murray
No disrespect to Trae Young mans is elite, but I just don't think I can put him on my top ten list yet keeping in mind the lack of defense. Next year for sure he will be around 7-10
That makes no sense, he’s always going to be a bad defender so if he’s gonna go from not top 10 this to all the way 7 on your list next year while his defense being the same, he should be on there now, plus you called him elite. You aren’t elite if you aren’t top 10 at your position
Steph comes down the court and pull up or pick and roll with draymond and pull up so its quite possible d lo will go multiple possessions without a touch but he will be fine cause they will stagger minutes with him and steph and him play more with the second unit while steph is off.
95% of warriors possesions contain atleast 4 passes. Steph may pull up every now and then but the majority of the game is going to be the same team ball we've seen GS play for the past 5 years. Draymond also isnt really a pull up 3 kind of player either. DLo is a great shooter and playmaker. He will have possession of the ball most every possesion. Hell, he might even become the primary ball handler. Stephs off ball play is insane.
I'd go: 1. Steph Curry (James Harden would go here if counted) 2. Damian Lillard 3. Russell Westbrook (happy to explain why if anyone replies to this comment) 4. Kyrie Irving 5. Kemba Walker 6. Ben Simmons 7. Kyle Lowry 8. Chris Paul (D'Angelo Russell if counted as a pg) 9. Jamal Murray 10. D'Aaron Fox (Honorable mentions to Mike Conley, Jrue Holiday, Goran Dragic and Trae Young) (John Wall not even considered because there's no way of knowing how good he will be after 2 years out)
Jalen Rose had the perfect response to Bookers double team frustrations, “For Devin Booker this is my playoffs. Y’all need to let me cook right now. I play in Phoenix.”😂
you guys should show some love for the international players, since literally every or almost every nba award this year went to international players. make a video dedicated to them or something
Tf you smoking I much respect John wall but damn kyrie is 1st he might of had a off season but damn. I don’t like kyrie I’m a 76ers fan. And Kemba is my favorite PG right know, but I think kyrie still number 1 in east
I see comments talking bout replacing pierre.. U guys need to chill. This pod is so good cause of the friendship between this four guys! P does get heated at times, but at the end of the day is all love with these dudes. They all bring something different to the table, and anybody talking bout replacing any of them is not a real fan imo. Stop the p slander!
Dame dominated Russ this playoffs. He deserves that second spot. I would put Kyrie ahead of Russ too since he is just entering his prime and is virtually unguardable, while Russ is clearly on the decline despite still being very productive.
M0ebius Russ was outplayed in three of the five games. The other two Russ held his own & outplayed Dame imo. I still feel like Russ, while a less efficient & effective scorer, still impacts the game in more ways than Dame. Also, while Dame did win the head to head battle in the series, Russ has outplayed him in nearly every other game they’ve played against each other head to head over the past two seasons. So Russ gets the slight edge. Kyrie is fourth bro lol
Brandon Giannascoli bro he was top 5 in assists as a rookie . Had to learn how to adjust to nba defense. Then he became better . Idk how high they ranked bro tho lol
Mike was completely right about DLo. The Warriors pass the ball so much he'll probably touch the ball every possession. It'll be perfect for him to have the ball and Steph running around Draymond screens for open threes.
@@CoolTy23 lol kyrie had lebron get him to a finals. Kyrie made one 3 to win game 7. If lillard had a player like durant, lebron, kawhi for a season theyd win 70 games and go 16-0 in playoffs. Kyrie is worse than lillard at everything. Kyrie cant launch from 40. he cant pass. He barely can run a pick n roll.
If Devin Booker got a problem with getting double teamed in a 3v3 because he wants to practice a 1v1 move he should play 1v1 or go run some drills if anything doubling him is preparing him for whats to come. He's mad now because he's so focused on improving his 1v1 game that he's neglecting his passing game which will be important because of his good isolation scoring. As for the argument against double teaming there are good and bad doubles, different situations where you should commit completely or when u just shade a player even though ppl dont practice it doesn't mean it can't improve your game especially considering how important and pivotal help defence is in todays game.
You know the drill 1: Wresbrook (my pic) 2: Mike conley 3:Steph Curry 4:Garry Payton 5:Steve Nash 6:Dearon Williams 7:Kyrie Irving 8: D book 9:Dame dolla 10: Jose Colderone
I can tell yall how Kyrie's better than Russ: 1. Led his team to more playoff wins than Russ 2. More efficient player (passing, shooting, good defender in the clutch) 3. Better decision maker through out the game (higher basketball IQ) 4. Can count on him in the championship round (as 1A, not number 1).
@@KxngKUDA He really doesn't take that many bad shots, as a person who has watched him. He takes good shots (aside from that Milwaukee series) and is a good decision maker.
From what we seen last year Russ made all his teammates better From PG13,Jermi Grant, Steven Adams, and made Terrence Fergunson a better then expected player. however he had bad decision making and just couldn't make a shot. I like Kyrie more but based off last year he didn't make his teammates better like Russ did and Kyrie wanted to be a leader so bad but when it happened he was a terrible leader and during the bucks series he gave up on his team by not picking up or not caring on defense and he was just being worst then what Russ was playing like in the playoffs which was hard to top.
@@rodneymercure2536 There is truth to Kyrie not making his teammates bettet but they felt like they could do without him. It's hard to make Jayson Tatum better when he wants to play like Kobe Bryant.
10. De'Aaron Fox 9. John Wall 8. Mike Conley 7. D'Angelo Russell 6. Ben Simmons 5. Kemba Walker 4. Russell Westbrook 3. Kyrie Irving 2. Damian Lillard 1. Stephen Curry
Young has a lot more potential than Fox. He’s better at everything except defence and probably attaching the basket, team has more potential to win in future also. So that just puts him past him for me for the upcoming season
Big Bee John Collins had a lot better season than Bagley. If Deandre n Cam end up what they’re meant to be they can be as good as Hield and Bogdanovic. It’s all ifs I guess, just think Trae has more upside
TheBritay you say fox is only better with the defense but what about finishing, athletism, speed. All young has is his shooting and playmaking. There potential are both high but it’s crazy thinking young has A LOT more potential
To clarify for this, even though Pierre lost it, he is correct with dbook. Devin came out and said that the reason he was made was because he’s trying to work on his game. He could have easily been passing out of a double for thirty minutes by himself, but it was a game they were playing. He then said that his dad would take him to the gym when he was little and he’d be getting dogged by some grown ass men and there wasn’t no help.
1. Curry 2. Dame 3. Russ 4. Kyrie 5. Kemba 6. Lowry 7. Simmons 8. Conley 9. D-Lo 10. Murray (Idk if Jrue counts but i'd have him here instead if you have him as a natural pg) HM: Fox
Pierre is that one friend you can’t disagree with or this video happens
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He is that one nigga you got to cater to every fucking time. 🤦🏿♂️
Part of these list pods is go argue over why you got people at each spot and what you think they can do in their situation
@@gavinreid4740 No ones saying that arguments aren't good. We are saying that even when Pierre clearly loses he acts like the other dude is an idiot
@@thepeoplesmix9779 fuck that catering bs, guys like Pierre you gotta 86 them out of your life. No contact
Pierre is also wrong about D Russell, he will touch the ball most every possession because of the way the warriors run their offense. I hate how he gets on Mike so much just cuz Mike isn’t that good at debating and explaining himself, Russell will touch the ball a lot because the warriors pass a lot
Super Mega Foxy Awesome Hot They don’t understand the Warriors offense it’s a lot of ball movement to get Steph or Klay open. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dlo is the primary ball handler and Steph Curry plays the 2 a lot of the season
exactly, tho mike did explain it properly , pierre just straight up stupid and ignorant af..hoh gotta replace him...hella annoying,stupid, and ignorant
To be fair, there’s a lot of points they get off fast breaks or curry dribbling up and pulling up for 3 so I would say him touching it half of the time is fair
I was just about to comment that. It ain’t like Steph gonna roll up 4 possessions in a row and pull up off a pick & roll. D-Lo is gonna be like that Kevin Durant type shot creator and allow Steph to work off ball. Each GS possession is gonna have 3-4 passes, and those passes ain’t heading to Alfonzo McKinnie more than D’Angelo Russel.
@@anand11111 they are friends irl and they said if HOH ever tried to replace one they'd all leave
Pierre got way too heated over that Dbook thing .it was kinda uncomfortable to watch
Jackson Reams He a hot head , I can tell he think he’s the alpha , mike pushes back a lot cause he feel like he know shit too .
GodlyCrits I think he listen to them but he thinks his opinion matters most and he make good points but he gotta understand he can be wrong too .
He really wasn’t that mad don’t know why people, are so mad
He a foooooool 😂
Shit not to me lol i was wishing i was there to tell him he's wrong
This podcast was Seth Curry and Derrick Williams debating most of the time lol
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Pierre always looks at Dmills to back him up when he’s getting into debate with Mike or Kenny for backup n Dmills just sits n laughs
TheBritay he’s so full of himself it’s insane
Yo these comments crazy 😂😂😂
Pierre argues with himself, he needs to relax a little
Mike: "I believe that dlo will touch the ball on every possession"
Pierre: "that's very interesting Mike, but here's why you're wrong"
You can tell Pierre trys to be the alpha of the group, but really he ignorant as shit 😂
Pierre needs to chill he ain’t even right he just talking in circles and not acknowledging that he could be wrong
You knew he was wrong when he started looking at other guys for confirmation and started saying stuff like "massage your brain"
@@cachedreamer also you knew he was doing too much when Mike of all people starts to get heated
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Pierre is stupid
Gosh Pierre gets too heated all the time. Don’t be in a podcast if u think ur always right and can’t take in what others have to say.
seriously
I think you are taking this too seriously, they're all friends, it's all in good fun.
JTDropkick still, as the audience it is so uncomfortable to watch when he does that shit. It’s really not nice to see lmao.
@@markwajelo4546 If it makes you uncomfortable, don't watch. It's as simple as that, I guarantee Pierre doesn't give two fucks about your feelings.
@@jtdropkick5424 you riding him like he rides booker
Pierre was wrong on that DLo adjustment debate
Thank you, there is no way in Steve Kerr's system that D'Lo might go several possessions in a row with out touching the ball. Stop it!
@@markwajelo4546 cmonbruh wtf
Why the fk P is sitting there with the airpods in? Are you listening to the music at the same time bro? That would explain why you never hear what other people are saying.
He tryna flex
or maybe he just felt like keeping them in...
Y df does it offend u so much
Shut up bitch
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Pierre be gettin too mad 😂😂
Fr 💀
he just passionate bout hoops bro not a bad thing
Yea he’s just really cares about what he’s doing and he’s really good at it , it was weird seeing him spazz on mike
Dandre Flanagan this man changes the whole atmosphere when he gets upset lol
He ain’t the only one, I’ll kill an entire PS4 party if someone start saying something stupid about hoops 😂
Just because P likes Book doesn’t mean he has to make excuses for literally anything he does
He’s a lightskin fanboy and brownskin who act lightskin (aka pg13)
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@@tdot8645 idk If it have to do with his skin color but I do think he overrate Devin Booker in my opinion. I think he said one of the videos that Devin Booker is better than Donovan Mitchell at least Donovan Mitchell got out the first round and made the playoffs when Devin Booker haven't even sniff the playoffs lol. But in terms of the skin tone thing brownskin lightskin darkskin same shit just different shades of brown.
Dildo bagtits man I love the whole ttw squad I’m just speaking what I’ve noticed my 2 years watching them Pierre loves them lightskin ballers
Fox > Trae currently. Fox averaging barely worse numbers, but much better efficiency. He is a much better defender and almost led Kings to the playoffs in a Western conference where 13 teams could've made the playoffs
Real NBA Mixes trae Better skills, better shooter , better passser , and tougher shots made and smarter
@@Grind2Excellence
Trae: Better shooter and Passer
De'Aaron: Better Athlete, Defender, and Finisher around the Rim
Difficulty in terms of Layups is subjective I'd argue Trae has a tougher time to to lack of size and athleticism but De'Aaron acceleration/deceleration and attacking awkward angles at bigger(in terms of muscle) dudes on fast breaks or Half court sets
@@probablyDae5832 Fox is def a better passer considering he makes smarter passes even if Trae might have more highlight passes. But cuz Fox makes smarter and better overall passes that get to his teammates in the right areas he is better
Defense makes Fox better overall player but Young got better offense.
Real NBA Mixes Nah Trae Young is definitely the better playmaker, but Fox is the better all around Point Guard plus he is one season more experienced so he should be the better PG
Pierre is wrong about the dloading thing. He wayyy too toxic
ppl barely finding out pierre a toxic person to have a open discussion with? lmaoo
lmao fr he’s always been like dis
Right I've never liked the way he talks about basketball and sht like wtf
I feel you, this podcast though he was trippen
word i love him but i hate when he argues like this and its pretty frequent
Kenny, D Mills, Mike: mentions kyrie irving
Pierre: 5 minute speech on how the celtics situation wasnt kyrie's fault
I swear this happens on every podcast 🙄
It literally was wtf there is a story that stated he was plotting to leave since December lmaooo. He had 2 good playoff games out of 9!! And shot 34% the last 4 games vs the Bucks shooting 20+ shots how the fuxk is that not your fault? You got outplayed by George Hill stop making excuses. For example Dame got shitted on and he never made an excuse for playing bad on his ribs he just said it is difficult to breath and that’s it when clearly it bothered him he got tired but his center stood up for him after they got eliminated by saying he had to deal with 3 bodies in front of him every possession “essentially saying anyone but you Damian Lillard.” It happens every fucking time that nigga is brought up
The People's Mix 😂 you wasted just as much time typing as Pierre explains kyrie’s situation every video we know bro you don’t have to tell us that it was his fault it’s a toxic situation mate
Sean Parsard that “toxic” situation/team went to the ECF game 7 without him kid
The People's Mix 😂 so I’m a kid? But aiiight they went to a game 7 against a CAVS TEAM THAT HAD LEBRON JAMES KEVIN LOVE AND some other role players with no defense btw and lots of young talent going against the arguable coach of the year that season plus a young stud in Jayson Tatum surrounded by great pieces
@@thepeoplesmix9779 Wabdi
Damn Pierre is getting roasted in these comments. I wonder if he’ll chill after he reads these
Nah he wont cause its Pierre 😂 he dont care
Always_ Swishing lol he is the Shaq of Through the Wire
Lets do our TTW hosts ranking:
1. Kenny
2. DMilks
3.Mike
4. That loud dude
Sir Iddi nah Mike over Darrick
Mike,👆
Mike’s underrated af tho
Ansh Shah woah P is 2nd in knowledge
Derrick just doesn’t talk but Seth Curry talks to much I think this list is perfect but maybe mike over Derrick
Pierre so mad in the one bc he ain’t got his usual Gatorade 🤣🤣
P needs to relax like it feels like he’s the only one who cares about the argument
Why does Pierre get so aggressive. He acts like nobody can have an opinion. People like him, are people I wouldn't entertain having a conversation with.
KING BUBBY agreed
KING BUBBY I almost stop watching because of him and funnily enough I never agree with him
Sometimes you get heated when you talking about something you love
RapidFireRivan P has an ego and can never accept when he’s wrong he got some issues cuz
Pierre mouth a little to spicy for me who you cursing at?
This list is completely inaccurate because they didn’t discuss a legend in Alex Caruso
He is going to be on the top 10 Centers.
Fax
Or Issac Bonga
Pierre: he dropped to 69% free throw shooting
Kenny: nice
Yeah, get rid of Pierre. He too heated too often.
John Smith lmfao he’s a friend of theirs
Nobody:
Pierre: Trae Young is better than D-Lo and De’aaron Fox
Drake Higdon LMFAO💀
Yikes
Drake Higdon he is now
Galatasaray 1905 Like way better
Drake Higdon he was right
That dlo debate was godly
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I’m glad Mike asked “whats draymond gonna do when he catches the ball?”
I was thinking the exact same thing. Too bad Pierre was to busy shouting to listen to what Mike had to say.
Why is Pierre wearing AirPods in his podcast, like what could he be listening to
Young Spitty another podcast so he can think of ideas
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Harvard- Nigga u want a scholarship
My top 10 pg list (if anyone wants to debate reply cause I’m all for it) (if u switch my 2 and 3 I won’t argue it cause I think there are in the same level
1. Steph Curry
2.Kyrie Irving(interchangeable with dame)
3.Dame lillard (interchangeable with Kyrie)
4.Russ Westbrook
5.Kemba Walker
6.Ben Simmons
7.D’Angelo Russell
8.D Foxx
9.Trae Young
10.Cp3
Trae Young shouldn’t be higher than D-Lo
Myth Beast Y’all on some dumb shit Trae deadass top 5 worst defenders in the league up there with IT
D Lo not a point guard🤔🤔🤔
Yall stupid
Nathan McMullen Ur actually slow do u think that Curry is a center as well -.-
Huh?? How bout now😂😂
I like how Kenny keeps quiet through the heated arguments
Pierre is an emotional lesbian
Hahshagahaha
Ivan Perez Demarcus cousins
*DeMarcus Cousins has left the chat*
I don’t know if y’all will believe me or not, but I answered correctly the questions from the trivia, and I feel so good for that lol
Lol i believe you i be doing that shit too sometimes
Kyle Lowry deadass dropped 26, 10 & 7 in a close out game 6 in Golden State for a championship and didn't make two of yall lists? LMAO the disrespect smh.
@@jazzyboy1770 I can tell you didn't watch the finals lmfao. Lowry balled out all finals.
Jacob Hamilton dawg that wasn’t just one game he played phenomenal in the ECF and finals
Jae Raptors even after the 0 pts he bounced back super well in the Orlando series. Didn’t play as well in the philly series but he still made some really key plays.
Jacob Hamilton I use that argument because thought u watched it you didn’t pay attention. Kyle Lowry was one of the sole reasons they stayed alive in majority of the ECF and finals. I don’t look at his PPG much last the last season because he really wasn’t needed in terms of dropping 20+. A 13-14 point game was more than enough for him. I watch for his impact, hustle and playmaking. The man is a straight winner and he does anything it takes to achieve that. Didn’t choke when it mattered most in the ECF or finals.
Jacob Hamilton what I base most of my ranking is on a decent regular season. Though he was injured for a good chunk of that too this year. And a pretty solid playoff run. That’s why I can not currently put Ben or DLO or any young guy over him. The numbers are there in the regular season but they just havnt gotten far enough in the playoffs to show they can preform when their weaknesses are being exploited
Who else tryna win that 2k20 from Kenny
EG Sam 😞🖐🏼
EG Sam my Twitter got suspended for a stupid reason so rip
@@anshshah8893 Make A New One
Jaden Black I guess
1:04:34 Kenny got me dead asf😂💀💀 sounds like me challenging my brothers to hoop
TrevianVision 😂
Mike: *Breathes*
Pierre: you’re wrong
Going back to watch this after 2 years of watching them is so cool and amazing on how far they’ve gone and can’t wait for how far they will go
Before I watch the video.
Is Terry Rozier back in Mike's List?
I got bad news bro
1) Curry
2) Irving
3) Lillard
4) Walker
5) Westbrook
6) Holiday
7) Simmons
8) Russell
9) Conley
10) Fox
Honorable Mention: J Murray
I don't know why Jrue Holiday was not mentioned in the video. Do they not consider him a PG or just not have him top 10?
Noah Sarasohn Holiday doesn’t play point guard anymore. He mostly had played shooting guard last two years.
Noah Sarasohn holiday is not even as close as good as Simmons
@@stonwin620 I disagree. Holiday is one of the best guard defenders in the league. He also averaged 21.1 points on 47% shooting. 5 rebounds and 7.7 assists.
@@juniorsoto1997 I looked on Basketball reference and he is listed as a point guard and shooting guard. I thought they listed primary position first. I guess they don't. So move everyone else up a spot and add Trae Young as the Honorable Mention.
everyone flaming P but I think the pod needs him and his personality to keep doing well. We all need that belligerent friend lol
Hearing "Through the WIIIIre is the most satisfying thing ever
Pierre stay overthinking the trivia😂😂😂
Legend says that Pierre is still sippin water from that bottle...
D-Russ is a ball handler, klay has a off ball game
Pierre talks too much, way too much always pushing his narratives on others. Derrick is direct and simple same as Kenny and Mike
hes passionate. i like it he adds another personality from the other 3
@@banks4777 you can be passionate without getting aggressive and insulting
@@cachedreamer Me and people talk like that all the time. Ig some people grow up differently
@@banks4777 i can see why you said people and not friends
the 2019 offseason counts as the 2019-20 season because it doesn’t affect anything that happened in 18-19
12:53 P wit the stare down 😭😭😭
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Was waiting for the position debates all summer
1. Stephen Curry
2. Damian Lillard
3. Russell Westbrook
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Ben Simmons
6. Kemba Walker
7. Chris Paul
8. Kyle Lowry
9. Mike Conley
10. Jamal Murray
Jae Raptors kemba should be higher than Ben Simmons
Kyrie>dame & Westbrook
can you guys please make a shirt with derricks face on it and sell it
My top 10:
1. Curry
2. Lillard
3. Westbrook
4. Irving
5. Walker
6. Simmons
7. Russell
8. Lowry
9. Conley
10. Fox
We would have the exact same list if you switch Westbrook and Kyire
I Really like that
Brian Christian could have it either way
Russell Westbrook fax
Curry
Lillard
Kyrie
Westbrook
Simmons
Kemba
Conley
Russell
Fox
CP3
No disrespect to Trae Young mans is elite, but I just don't think I can put him on my top ten list yet keeping in mind the lack of defense. Next year for sure he will be around 7-10
That makes no sense, he’s always going to be a bad defender so if he’s gonna go from not top 10 this to all the way 7 on your list next year while his defense being the same, he should be on there now, plus you called him elite. You aren’t elite if you aren’t top 10 at your position
YRN TJ the offense has to go up next season
Steph comes down the court and pull up or pick and roll with draymond and pull up so its quite possible d lo will go multiple possessions without a touch but he will be fine cause they will stagger minutes with him and steph and him play more with the second unit while steph is off.
95% of warriors possesions contain atleast 4 passes. Steph may pull up every now and then but the majority of the game is going to be the same team ball we've seen GS play for the past 5 years.
Draymond also isnt really a pull up 3 kind of player either.
DLo is a great shooter and playmaker. He will have possession of the ball most every possesion.
Hell, he might even become the primary ball handler. Stephs off ball play is insane.
I'd go:
1. Steph Curry
(James Harden would go here if counted)
2. Damian Lillard
3. Russell Westbrook (happy to explain why if anyone replies to this comment)
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Kemba Walker
6. Ben Simmons
7. Kyle Lowry
8. Chris Paul
(D'Angelo Russell if counted as a pg)
9. Jamal Murray
10. D'Aaron Fox
(Honorable mentions to Mike Conley, Jrue Holiday, Goran Dragic and Trae Young)
(John Wall not even considered because there's no way of knowing how good he will be after 2 years out)
Kyrie>dame & russ
curry, dame, kyrie, russ, kemba, conley, simmons, dlo, cp3, fox...trae is a close 11
Jalen Rose had the perfect response to Bookers double team frustrations, “For Devin Booker this is my playoffs. Y’all need to let me cook right now. I play in Phoenix.”😂
you guys should show some love for the international players, since literally every or almost every nba award this year went to international players. make a video dedicated to them or something
I forgot this was suppose to drop today this was a great surprise
P is the most biased person ever. That is bad for a sports journalist
Igor Radlovic They aren’t journalists 😭
@@JoyboySGLS he is into being one if you follow them on social media , you would know that
50:18 thank you KOT4Q. I was thinking nice as well 😂
Healthy John Wall definitely top 4 and the best PG in the east imo
My g
Fax.
2nd best behind Kemba but true he's massively underrated
Tf you smoking I much respect John wall but damn kyrie is 1st he might of had a off season but damn. I don’t like kyrie I’m a 76ers fan. And Kemba is my favorite PG right know, but I think kyrie still number 1 in east
@@Whiteboyz420 with a healthy John Wall....Kyrie ain't better then him
I see comments talking bout replacing pierre.. U guys need to chill. This pod is so good cause of the friendship between this four guys! P does get heated at times, but at the end of the day is all love with these dudes. They all bring something different to the table, and anybody talking bout replacing any of them is not a real fan imo. Stop the p slander!
What is Pierre’s problem with mike this video. Every time mike said something Pierre went off.
Fire podcast
1) Curry
2) Russ
3) Dame
4) Kyrie
5) Ben
6) Kemba
7) D.Lo
8) Conley
9) Fox
10) Cp3
Hayden Mumford Dame better than russ
No dlo?
Never mind bro seen it now, my bad
Dame dominated Russ this playoffs. He deserves that second spot. I would put Kyrie ahead of Russ too since he is just entering his prime and is virtually unguardable, while Russ is clearly on the decline despite still being very productive.
M0ebius Russ was outplayed in three of the five games. The other two Russ held his own & outplayed Dame imo. I still feel like Russ, while a less efficient & effective scorer, still impacts the game in more ways than Dame. Also, while Dame did win the head to head battle in the series, Russ has outplayed him in nearly every other game they’ve played against each other head to head over the past two seasons. So Russ gets the slight edge. Kyrie is fourth bro lol
While watching the double on book part of the show I got a noti from BR talking about it😂
Same lol
P it was Earl Watson that said teams wouldn’t let Kobe win.
1. Curry
2.dame
3.russ
4. Kyrie
5. Kemba
6.simmons
7.dlo
8.wall
9. Conley
10.young
Lay La . Russ over Kyrie? Trae Young over Conley & D’Fox?
Chris Paul?
Faxs
You guys really overrating Trae Young half a season of him being pretty good and you guys got him this high
Brandon Giannascoli bro he was top 5 in assists as a rookie . Had to learn how to adjust to nba defense. Then he became better . Idk how high they ranked bro tho lol
Brandon Giannascoli just came to remind you of this comment 💀definitely weren’t overrating him
clown
Haven’t seen whole video,liked it regardless
Pierre needs to turn it WAAAAY down, also ty Kenny for the funny af ending 😂
Mike was completely right about DLo. The Warriors pass the ball so much he'll probably touch the ball every possession. It'll be perfect for him to have the ball and Steph running around Draymond screens for open threes.
1. Curry
2. Kyrie
3. Dame
4. Westbrook
5. Kemba
6. Simmons
7. DLo
8. CP3
9. Conley
10. Fox
Tupac Reincarnated Swap dame and drew, list is lookin good
Brenden Riddle I would but kyrie can do everything dame can do plus he got a ring
@@CoolTy23 lol kyrie had lebron get him to a finals. Kyrie made one 3 to win game 7. If lillard had a player like durant, lebron, kawhi for a season theyd win 70 games and go 16-0 in playoffs. Kyrie is worse than lillard at everything. Kyrie cant launch from 40. he cant pass. He barely can run a pick n roll.
Taylor Klock u trippin 😂
I agree completely actually the first ever top10 pg I ever agreed with
You guys had me thinking Pierre was gonna start cussing people out at the top of his lungs
Talking about replacing him off the podcast😂
If Devin Booker got a problem with getting double teamed in a 3v3 because he wants to practice a 1v1 move he should play 1v1 or go run some drills if anything doubling him is preparing him for whats to come. He's mad now because he's so focused on improving his 1v1 game that he's neglecting his passing game which will be important because of his good isolation scoring. As for the argument against double teaming there are good and bad doubles, different situations where you should commit completely or when u just shade a player even though ppl dont practice it doesn't mean it can't improve your game especially considering how important and pivotal help defence is in todays game.
Fireice39 couldn’t agree more. He need to just go do some drills if he trying to work on his game
Lmao, Pierre was just passionate about his arguments. I feel that brodie. 😂😂😂
You know the drill
1: Wresbrook (my pic)
2: Mike conley
3:Steph Curry
4:Garry Payton
5:Steve Nash
6:Dearon Williams
7:Kyrie Irving
8: D book
9:Dame dolla
10: Jose Colderone
Russ
@@tcphulk1947 love uoi
@Allen Williams ok ok
Kyrie
Dame, I did have D Book but I took away the thumbs up and waited after that “double team” video lol
30:16 Westbrook said “IM TOO FAST”
I can tell yall how Kyrie's better than Russ:
1. Led his team to more playoff wins than Russ
2. More efficient player (passing, shooting, good defender in the clutch)
3. Better decision maker through out the game (higher basketball IQ)
4. Can count on him in the championship round (as 1A, not number 1).
And kyrie has a knack for taking and MAKING bad shots. There really isnt a good shot option for russ that isnt a lane to the cup.
@@KxngKUDA He really doesn't take that many bad shots, as a person who has watched him. He takes good shots (aside from that Milwaukee series) and is a good decision maker.
From what we seen last year Russ made all his teammates better From PG13,Jermi Grant, Steven Adams, and made Terrence Fergunson a better then expected player. however he had bad decision making and just couldn't make a shot. I like Kyrie more but based off last year he didn't make his teammates better like Russ did and Kyrie wanted to be a leader so bad but when it happened he was a terrible leader and during the bucks series he gave up on his team by not picking up or not caring on defense and he was just being worst then what Russ was playing like in the playoffs which was hard to top.
BBQBlaze KyleG you not wrong there
@@rodneymercure2536 There is truth to Kyrie not making his teammates bettet but they felt like they could do without him. It's hard to make Jayson Tatum better when he wants to play like Kobe Bryant.
lol randomly popped up on the homepage. miss these days
When Pierre going buck about d-lo Kenny look so fed up 😂😂😂
you guys the best
10. De'Aaron Fox
9. John Wall
8. Mike Conley
7. D'Angelo Russell
6. Ben Simmons
5. Kemba Walker
4. Russell Westbrook
3. Kyrie Irving
2. Damian Lillard
1. Stephen Curry
Kyrie>dame
14:56
*Pierre pretending to double Mike*
Mike w a straight face "Yeah"
Jelly Dean that’s derrick
Bro D’Fox is better than trea young. Stop IT! Trea young is a very good player but D’Fox is just
for real, couldnt believe dude had trae at 7 on his list but left fox off completely.
Young has a lot more potential than Fox. He’s better at everything except defence and probably attaching the basket, team has more potential to win in future also. So that just puts him past him for me for the upcoming season
@@TheBritay hawks only have trae tho, no one else is better than Bagley, bogdanovich, or hield, so how are more set up to win in the future?
Big Bee John Collins had a lot better season than Bagley. If Deandre n Cam end up what they’re meant to be they can be as good as Hield and Bogdanovic. It’s all ifs I guess, just think Trae has more upside
TheBritay you say fox is only better with the defense but what about finishing, athletism, speed. All young has is his shooting and playmaking. There potential are both high but it’s crazy thinking young has A LOT more potential
Aye Mike extra nonchalant and I respect that✊🏾
Lowry is a top 10 PG
To clarify for this, even though Pierre lost it, he is correct with dbook. Devin came out and said that the reason he was made was because he’s trying to work on his game. He could have easily been passing out of a double for thirty minutes by himself, but it was a game they were playing. He then said that his dad would take him to the gym when he was little and he’d be getting dogged by some grown ass men and there wasn’t no help.
I watched 53:31 wayyy too many times I was laughing too hard oh my god Dame a legend!
Mike and P going at it this episode 😂
1. Curry
2. Dame
3. Russ
4. Kyrie
5. Kemba
6. Lowry
7. Simmons
8. Conley
9. D-Lo
10. Murray (Idk if Jrue counts but i'd have him here instead if you have him as a natural pg)
HM: Fox
@Mohamed Abdi in 2019 simmions is a better player. The only thing lowry is better at is shooting
Kyrie>dame & russ
15:00 in the funniest shit ive seen in years hahahahaha my guy Pierre funny as hell