The Fellowship of the Ring - Updated Color Grade
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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I, for one, adore the over-the-top golden coloring in Rivendell. It might be my nostalgia, but... Rivendell is supposed to be the coolest place in the world that isn't Valinor, and it's supposed to FEEL magical, and the unnatural golden light just brings it all home for me.
Regardless - you're doing god's work, thank you so much :)
I second that, it's the one change I would absolutely rail against with this reimagining. The use of color or absence of certain colors etc sets a scene and a mood and is an extremely powerful tool. It's not nostalgia, it's essential for this magical place and conveys the aura of the location.
@@jpcreativeimagery Dito. Same with the blue lighting on top of the Tower of Orthanc, it Ok to have a wash of colour no and again for a specific purpose. I wonder what the light director (?) of the original film thinks, seeing all of their careful choices swept away, in the name of what . . . clarity? Who gives a frack about clarity.
i am soooooo glad that somebody besides me noticed the weird colour grading. and I'm so glad that Chris hartwell is the one to revisit the changes - i cant imagine it being in better hands. I can't wait to reexperience these films the way they looked on the big screen when I saw them as a kid.
With a movie like Fellowship that has such variety in color between dark and light, it gets really noticeable when instead of just the dark scenes looking gloomy, the bright and warm scenes look gloomy aswell.
I want to rewatch all these movies in your colour grade because they look surprisingly better than the extended edition colour grade
The latest Remastered 15 disc Blu-Ray Trilogy of the Lord of the Rings Extended Editions has proper color range. The box cover has a black and grey map background with portion of the ring with glowing lettering. The top of the box has a gold banner with REMASTERED BLU-RAY TRILOGY in silver. The 15 disc set contains 3 blue storage cases with 5 discs in each. 6 Blu-Rays for 3 films and 9 DVDs of extras.
No greenish grey tint in the Fellowship of the Ring. Beautiful white clouds and snow as seen by the human eye when sunlight is broken down into all visible colors and scattered in multiple directions.
Thank you! I've been looking for this answer all night lol
Are you talking about the newer 4k edition? Or the blu ray extended edition that is in the gold cover/box w/ three cases that are black?
HOLY SHIT THANK YOU FOR THIS
Just bought this yesterday... cant wait to see as I seen historic issues of previous blurays and I never bought into them as I enjoy the original extended dvds that are still in mint condition. The packaging of the original dvds is still the best I think.
You mean this one? Https://ruclips.net/video/E4RJIPa9x2o/видео.html
Ah you legend, thank you so much for doing this for our community! =D
I did notice something was off when I watched the extended editions, and your grading is just the perfect mix of both worlds!
It's crazy how a simple color grade change the mood of a scene.
I'm so excited to see this. Bravo!
I'm so glad someone is on my side with the color grading! I was beginning work on a video talking about it soon, especially with the 4k transfers of the film being released. The extended editions were mostly easy to ignore but some of the 4k grading, Jackson has said recently, was to make the LOTR films look more like The Hobbit films, so that they look like they were all shot at the same time. I'm sorry, what!?
It's getting into George Lucas territory of tampering...
Other important thing to point out, the "theatrical grade" blu-ray isn't actually the colors seen in theaters. Even the theatrical Blu-Rays alter the original grading, just not quite as significantly as the Extended Blu-Rays. So the first DVDs and 4Ks, being partially scanned from the original negative in the latter instance, are ironically the closest to theatrically accurate colors.
source on this?
ooh snaps I'm excited
bravo! looks amazing!!!
I'm so pleased I don't notice the green overtones at all when i watch the actual film.
Ahh, I love the Bilbo edit at the end 💙
I was delightful to be able to fit that in there :D
I always wonder how that aletrnative edit would look, and now I know. Good work.
Nicely done! I would really like to see the final project/job!
For sure! Just shoot me a message - email address in the description.
@@ChrisHartwell But your email doesn’t work
@@funbrian1596 Recheck and send again. I assure you it does!
@@ChrisHartwell thanks for telling me that I realize there is missing the @
What’s your opinion on the colour grading of the 4K release? Seems to me like it reverted much of the greenish tint and now it’s looking much closer to the original release including great HDR/DV.
Unfortunately, it doesn't look as film-like . . . There's definitely some DNR going on. Bloodsport 4K has a much more "accurate" transfer than some of these blockbuster movies get, unfortunately.
Any chance on an update to this video comparing the previous versions with the new 4k grade? It seems they did fix the blueish green tint from the extended blurays, but I'm not sure if they kept the improvements, such as the gandalf on orthanc sequence.
I would love to be able to pick and choose, scene by scene - maybe even shot by shot - my preferred color grading. Some scenes I prefer theatrical, others extended.
Now that the 4k editions have come out with new color grading, would you be making an updated version with that as the base?
For sure! _Some_ day :)
Thank you for sharing!! I love films where there is as much natural light as possible, what is the point in color grading some of these scenes and giving it this blueish/greenish wash??
I wholeheartedly approve!
Thank you
Curious to hear what you think about the new grade Jackson has done for the new release.
THE REMASTERED 15 DISC BLU RAY EDITION FIXES THIS HOLY SHIT IVE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR A HD ORIGINAL GRADING OF THESE MOVIES
You mean this one? ruclips.net/video/E4RJIPa9x2o/видео.html
Wow this was amazing! How can we watch Hartwell version?
Just shoot me an email - address in the description.
Have you done this with either of the other two?
The other two didn't receive the same treatment, so there'd be no need
Hey Chris, i was wondering if your Extended cut of the Hobbit films are finished.? and yeah, editing around the Lord of the Rings would in truth feel kinda wrong.
It is indeed! Just shoot me another email :)
@@ChrisHartwell Is this a comparison between the Theatrical Edition Blu-ray and the Extended Edition Blu-ray?
@@frankiegalindo980 Yes indeed!
@@ChrisHartwell I thought so!
@@ChrisHartwell Do you have a video comparison between the Extended Edition 1080p Blu-ray and the Extended Edition 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray?
These are dope Chris - when you say Extended Ed Blu-rays, are you referring to the newest 4k edition release? Or the original Extended Edition release
I'll stick to my extended blu-ray's, it might not be perfect but neither is the 4K version, My setup consist of a 4K Mini LED TV that does HDR10 and Dolby Vision and a Oppo 4K player and a Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player which upscales better than my 4K player
Will you share your thoughts on the new 4k release? I'm hoping the green tint will be improved
That would be fun! I've heard that the color grade has been redone, so here's hoping!
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The Hartwell Grade is by far the superior of the two, sign me up! Just wish I could get it on disc....
Please tell us you've applied this much love, care and dedication to the other 2 films?!
Do you think they'll fix the color grade for the upcoming 4k release?
Unfortunately, I doubt it. It would just require too much of a financial investment, on the studio's end, for "too little" of a return.
Hoping I'm wrong though!
I'm happy to report that, according to Bill Hunt from the Blu-ray industry news site thedigitalbits.com, Weta Digital wen't back and did a brand new color grade from the ground up when they were creating their new digital intermediates from all of the live action negatives and film printed VFX shots that they scanned in native 4K. Both Peter Jackson and the original colorist, Peter Doyle, has been involved in this process. Bill knows a bunch of the people working at Weta so lets hope he's right!
By the way, there is already an extended version with colors as on disk.
originaltrilogy.com/topic/44rh1ns-The-Fellowship-of-the-Ring-Extended-Edition-Color-Restoration/id/61952
Okay I just gotta ask since we all know now that the 4K cuts are coming. Will you take your 1080p cuts of the Hobbit at LotR and do the same with the 4K release?
You know it ;)
Chris Hartwell Ayyyy🎉🎉 I wonder how the color grade will turn out with the 4K cuts. My experience with 4K releases the colors are usually enhanced by hdr and other such things. Btw you heard me talking about a 4k release a month or so ago. Called it
@@charlessimons2851 Haha! You did indeed!
I’m so glad someone noticed! The colour grading on the Netflix versions are absolutely awful too!
Any plans on grading the other two as well?
Did this green tint happen to all blu ray extended versions? I just looked at my boxset version and don't notice the green tint at all. colours look great.
It seems like only FotR EE Blu Ray suffers from the green tint issue
Chris, maybe it would have been best to wait for the upcoming UHD presentation and see it that will have a more pleasing colour grade?
I do not miss the theatrical grade at all.
After I learned there was a difference, I rented the version with the theatrical grade because everyone talked about how much they hated how it changed in later versions, but honestly, the newer grade feels so much better to me. I love the tint and darkness of the newer versions. It adds a really appropriate mood to the story that I love. I think flatter, whiter grades are much more boring and a missed opportunity to add atmosphere.
All three Lord of the rings films being released again with color corrections and bonus features and more on November 16th 2021!!
But its a night time shot in the moon light. It's supposed to look a little bit blue.
In the theatrical edition without color grading, it just looks like it was shot on an iPhone
But what about the extended DVD edition, do they also have the same colour grading as the BR?
No
@@zbigniew2628 thanks haha i totally just put an offer on an ebay boxset hoping this XD
is this colour grading only on the blu-rays or do the extended edition dvds have it as well?
Just the blu-rays
@@ChrisHartwell time to go hunting for my old boxset i guess
Would love the link :)
Now it’s fixed in the 4K
I don't mind the green in the Shire, but for the rest of the movie it just looks worse.
I'm really glad for you that you are up to 15.9k subscribers. I'm just kinda mad at the other 15.899k others for infringing on my territory. BACK THE HECK OFF, FOOLS!
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I just want a crisp extended blue ray version
Mate, I need my hard drive space back! lol
do the other two need fixing as well?
No, sir :) Same color grade for both the theatrical and extended blu-rays.
@@ChrisHartwell That's great, awesome work!
how much green would you like?
yes
Wow! Hartwell Grade is ridiculously better!!
That scene swap of The Hobbit Bilbo was a great touch
Indeed no, it was as bad as George Lucas adding Hayden Christensen at the end of the return of the jedi.
@@Flagz69 You are right to liken it to that since it is the same concept of linking two trilogies together. Both cases it is done excellently
That scene switch is how you do a special edition properly, Mr. Lucas.
@@Orko1983 Theres nothing wrong with Star Wars special editions, they are better than the original cuts
@thomas5 No there isn't. I actually prefer some of Lucas decisions. Like putting Palpatine in 5 was the right thing to do. I just didn't like that dinosaurs ass taking up the whole screen when they come into Mos Eisley and You can no longer see them and the No by Vader in Jedi now breaks the tension.
Is this green tint only in first film or across all 3?
Only in the first film. And only in its blu-ray extended edition release.
i love to see Martin Freeman in the lord of the rings! i hope i can se your edits!
4k color grade woot
That part at the end with the addition of Frodo from the horrific _Hobbit_ movies _was_ a joke... right? Please?
I loathe regrading that they seem obsessed to do on so many movies these days. I have gone back to the theatrical bluray. Thank goodness the recent star wars 4k remasters have corrected the awful special editions blue/crimson dominance with the cold pink flesh tones, back to a much more natural palette. I just wish they would leave the movies alone and just do the best transfers they can.
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Fixed it! Please, shoot me a second email and I'll send you the updated links :)
I hope they fixed this in the UHD 4k re-release. Otherwise I'm not buying it.
I can confirm that _they have_ fixed it! :D
I think I prefer the theatrical color grading over the extended one on almost every scene.
But if you're editing the films, why not put the Prologue at the beginning of the Hobbit where it really belongs?
I sent an email request for your Hobbit extended editions
HARDCORE
When you separate skin tone from overall color of the scene it looks odd and fishy.
They rave about DOLBY VISION, BUT IT ORANGES THINGS UP
I would be upset if they replaced the scene where Bilbo finds the ring. I prefer the original version so much more because its creepy. It's dark, grey, Bilbo looks more how I imagined him in the book, and Gollum's screams sound more disturbing. Gollum in Fellowship I'd argue is creepier and less cute than his design in TwoTowers/ROTK/Hobbit. Just my opinion.
Is the "extended grade" present on the DVD extended edition or only the new blu ray?
only blu ray
Its great, but I just feel that the addition of the Hobbit part its too much.
Yes, always more Ian Holm!
So have you seen the 4K masters, color changes have been done there, so I think it looks better now, at least what I saw from some reviews.
But the movie grain was removed by a filter which makes them look less sharp and removes the movie's atmosphere. Can you fix that?
it’s a great improvement and done by peter Jackson and same that was done to the international cut of the shining and great upgrade and stunning in 4K love the great lord of the rings franchise movies
It is look like they just drop in hurry a green filter all over the film that it doesn't excuse the improvements made for a few scenes in the film and completely screw all the others. At least they didn't screw the other two extended editions films in such horrible way.
No more weird tint in the 4K versions. The 4K Extended Editions is the only way to watch the trilogy.
they have changed a lot in the 4k. the whites are blown out and detail is actually lost in some parts.
Rally not a fan of these colours they are way over saturated in places !
Color grading in modern hollywood just straight up ruined cinema. Why they want to put an unnatural hue over every scene is beyond me
Oh my gosh what have they done
At least they made it easy to just chroma-key everything back to the original
Loved what you did at the end. It’s more appropriate. Hope Peter Jackson would consider haha
1:07 I like Gandalf's face being washed out though. It makes him feel powerless, which helps the scene.
Can you do one with Blade runner and give the final cut the directors cut colors?
I'm glad they got Jackson's approval, but is it really necessary to do this, I'd rather they just leave it the way it was, you remember it a that way as well and you nostalgia is built on that look. I'm fine with a certain amount of remastering or cleaning up but things age and flaws show, it's fine let them.
I prefer seeing older films that have scratches and film moving around over the static flat clean look of over doing it today.
I couldn't even watch the extended version of fellowship, it is terrible
Just watched the regraded "Fellowship of the Rings". I didn't watch every Scene but skipped throuh all chapters to get a general sense.
I'm really impressed. Looks far better that the original Version.
There is still one Problem but i think it's more a Problem with how the First movie was graded.
It feels a little Bit inconsistent with skin tones. In some scenes they are orange, in others natural and in a few scenes quiet muted.
And it has nothing to do with overall color vibes which are used to get a certain atmosphere.
The Two Towers and Return of the King feel more consistent.
Picture quality otherwise (sharpness and details) are top notch.
Why can't we have a theatrical cut which looks as good ? The original bluray is a blurry DNR-mess
An absolute crime. All those were involved should be held accountable, including Peter!
Well, one of those people who could have been queried about this questionable choice, Andrew Lesnie, hasn’t been with us for almost nine years.
You can adjust the color on your TV set duh
Thanks for your very gracious and encouraging comment, Thomas...
...unfortunately, like I explained in the video, the _whole_ film is not _uniformly_ "green tinted". And I personally don't want to be getting up every other scene to adjust my TV set.