Madrid ownership only have themselves to blame. How can you bring in a coach and not let him buy a single outfield player? You loan out players that could help you such as James and Kovacic without a replacement. You sell arguably the best player in football history and you replace him with who? Mariano, a player you loaned out to Lyon who has done very little to justify even wearing the no. 7 jersey. Worst of all, your players simply turned on Ronaldo and kept saying how much better off they are without him, while they forgot to play like a proper team
true that, but that still doesn't give them excuse on losing from moscow, levante, etc.....that squad is still world class and it was either overplayed, overconfident or under managed which we would never know, so sacking the coach might shift blame from players and they would have the feeling that a new manager could quickly turn around things
Lotepegui's mistake was to go with possessional football with players who only know how to play direct football. But he's biggest mistake was ditching Spain for Real Madrid. As an individual, Lopetegui hasn't accomplished much to handle 3 times back to back champions league winners. On the top of it, Ronaldo left. He was everything at Madrid. He took all the spotlight, pressure, criticism, hatred, every possible kind of attention. It was all on him in past 9 years. Other players were unhappy about their game time. Where are they now? Real Madrid's style is star power. But these current players can't play individually and now it's proven that their ego is getting in their way to play as a team. Real tried to bet on Bale but they forget he is the injury wizard of Wales. And benzema , he had power to destroy any team but now lost that potential. Isco as a forward? Lol just lol. Ramos? No doubt about his captaincy but he's ego is just too much. Better without Ronaldo huh? Yeah better at losing without him.
Cant imagine CR7's smug face right now at sinking Madrid boat, especially after some players claimed they are a better team without him 😂. Trash talking too early
Well, CR7 did gave hint he's leaving on the day he lifts the UCL throphy. Was Zidane leaving decision made only after taking into account that CR7 is leaving?, well i dont know. CR7 or Zidane gave more impact on Madrid performance upto that last UCL, you decide. But when the current player could just bid farewell to CR7 n wish him luck n just say the team will adapt w/o him, no, they have to run their mouth extra mile. Now Karma just came so soon 🤔
It's not up to cr only they needed backup after him but Perez didn't buy that backup and players were right u can't cry for cr just look for solution I know there is no cr backup in the world but cr don't play in every team but they are doing fine so Madrid have to look for a solution instead of crying for cr
Courtoir still makes his good saves, it's just that the whole team's spirit is down, no one is to be blamed here, except for the sour ungrateful fanbase
skip1837 GK isn’t the problem. It’s that defense that gets Real Madrid in trouble time and time again. They gave courtois trouble. They gave navas trouble, and they gave Casillas trouble. Madrids defense has always been an issue.
@NicholasJ Walker the whole team is in shambles, no fighting spirit, no teamwork, no tactics, even if their tactics was good, they'd still lose, just can't get over the loss of a teammate, yet the say they don't need him
Ramos is a snake in the grass. He made comments about Ronaldo not being a good teammate and they'll play more as a team now that he's gone. He must have always been envious of Ronaldo being the alpha. I'm not surprised by his new comments about Lopetegeui at all.
With Zidane Real Madrid was 20 points behind Barcelona!! I don't understand why people still thinks it's the coach fold? Yeah they won the UCL but the had a goalscorer player who scored in UCL for fun... Real Madrid players are declining.. It's simple..
It's kind of like Barca in 2016/17, they got comfortable with MSN in front, playing the same type of football every time. Without proper tactical changes they will go down even more
To be honest RM has made some incredibly dumb decisions in the last couple of years coming to this. CR7 made a great choice by leaving and now that he’s gone RM is starting to regret letting him go, appreciate the players that make your team special and don’t take them for granted. Everyone wants to be Messi or CR7 but when the time comes to step up and fill those shoes, people just fall short.
Real without Ronaldo is like the Cavs without LeBron. Oilers without McDavid. Hell, Roland Garros without Nadal. No identity, no swagger, no bravado. As others before me have pointed out, Ronaldo bailed this team out on numerous occasions these last few years. Without his ridiculous scoring rate, Real would never have won the CL once - let alone three times in a row. We all know that...
This isn't basket ball where you can defend and attack within 3 sec football requires a strong team each cable of his position and star player who shows up when he is needed, ever wondered why ronaldo and messi never won the world cup?
mr shakir That’s true. But as the dude said, Ronaldo has bailed them out so many times in his time there that they wouldn’t have won those things without him. Just look at his numbers and goals in big games, no one comes close.
It's madness only 14 game's played and he is sacked , who ever they pick now will be OK till the end of the season cause surely they can't keep firing people after 14 game's...
People actually underrate Ronaldo’s importance in Madrid’s success over the last 9 years. Ramos is the most egotistical player in World Football, who isn’t actually that good at defending (scores goals better than he defends) and has been lucky to play with such great players over the course of his career; his true defensive abilities are being exposed now and he knows it
With Ronald Madrid were perennial losers to Barcelona. 5 - 0, 6 - 2, 3 - 1, 4 - 0. And remember in 9 years of Ronaldo at Madrid they won only 2 La Liga cups while Barcelona won 6.
Saleh Yassin you cannot win league if your defence is shit. Ronaldo has been scoring 50 goals almost every season but if your defence is gonna give away goals then Madrid not winning the league is not down to Ronaldo .
No. Ronaldo has the pedigree the experience the knowledge. You cannot say Real Madrid has all this, they don’t. Ronaldo carried the team on his back. Ramos would be nothing without Ronaldo. The team has now lost their offensive threat and other teams are not afraid to attack Madrid. The only reason Real was good defensively was because they were good offensively. Many teams had to stay back and defend. So to say Ramos is a good player is a joke. You put Ramos in another team or keep him at this current club without a Ronaldo and see how many goals they concede. A player like Ramos needs a player like Ronaldo to make him look good.
outlawfly Sure. If you call nothing from 2003 - 2014 a success in Europe. They were shit. It’s only when Ronaldo joined did this Real Madrid team ever win. 2005 Ramos joined Madrid and won nothing without Ronaldo. The joke is on you. You should be on your hands and knees giving a BJ to Ronaldo for your Madrid. Because they will not win anything this season, lol. Enjoy :D
@outlawfly Maybe because if you are slightly educated and you can see that I was talking about Sergio Ramos. Ramos came to Madrid in 2005. My argument is simple and an accurate fact. Ronaldo carried them on their back. Without Ronaldo real is not going to win anything. That's not Ironic, its a simple fact. It's like what Alex Furguson stated. Ronaldo could play for any team and be a winner. How is Real Madrid doing without Ronaldo this season? I don't care about the old generation they were different players. Liverpool also had a golden generation. That doesn't mean they should be the best now. I can guarantee that Real will not win anything this season. Why? Ronaldo is not there.
outlawfly Dude. Everything you said I already know. The fact is Real Madrid needed Ronaldo. It’s as simple as that. I can take you through all the stats and how Manchester United won with Ronaldo too and how many times he won the premier league with Manchester United and how Alex Ferguson stated he could play for any club and be a winner. That’s from a legend! Not from you. But I am not going to do that. Because it’s pointless talking about the past. The past teams have long gone. Players make the team. So, what I will do is very simple. We will see if Real Madrid will win anything this season. They have won the champions league 3 times in a row. We will see if they can do it again. And your argument for Real Madrid winning the league multiple times with Ramos doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a 2 team league. Recently it has been a 3 team league. It’s not amazing to know that Real won the league during that time. Because there were only two teams competing for it during that time. The real answer will come at the end of the season when Real Madrid will win nothing. Until then. You can give me as many stats as you like. History is not now. They will win nothing. And that is a fact. Real are now nothing without Ronaldo.
Conte is too smart to go to Madrid. Real represent the opposite of what conte represents which everyone fighting together as a unit and following the mangers vision for the team. In Madrid, they have success with individual stars and it’s always been about the star power with real. I’m not saying real doesn’t play like a team because you have to in order to win three ucl but what I’m saying is that there isn’t a system in place like juventus or Barcelona. Look at real without Ronaldo, if there was a system in place they could handle his departure better. Also, with Real Madrid even if you win the league you still can’t get fired so conte is right to go to a club that will appreciate and value him because he is the type of manager that gives everything he has to the team just like he did even he was a player. Conte doesn’t need the money either so he can wait for another club that has lower expectations. Hopefully he goes to Milan and brings them back to the champions league where they belong.
@@nathanielbaxter533 Some jobs are not meant to be taken. For example, Mou to United. That was a shithole he inherited. And everyone pinned the blame of 7 years of failure onto him from day 1. Football fans are quick to forget. Right now, its the same predicament for any class manager thinking about the job offer from Real Madrid. No one wants to be the scapegoat.
@@teerificbitch True. But Real are proven winners who have the ability to attract the best players in the world. Conte's proved that he can win in high pressure jobs, so why not take the chance.
@@extremedude1234 The following year after Ronaldo left, ManU finished second in the league, 1 point behind the champion. The year after that, they WON the league. Doesnt seem like Ronaldo departure was such a big deal. If ManU sucks now, its because Ferguson retired, NOT because of Ronaldo's departure.
extremedude1234 we suck cause Ferguson left lol not cause of Ronaldo we went onto win 2 of the next 4 titles and got to a champions league final 2 years after he left, Rooney scored like 36 goals that season while injured for abit I think we did well replacing him
Gin-Nius. Well if we are the idiots, and can point out the obvious, then how come RM didn’t do anything to make it up, bought a few players that can’t even make the team.
Player management is very important like Ramos said but Madrid didn’t do very well last season in La Liga, the champions was won with lots of Ronaldo goals and last minute saves (Juventus), and so far this season the defense has been mediocre at best, midfield below par, and no attacking prowess whatsoever. So the players can blame the coach all they want but the truth is that the players do the talking on the field and they haven’t done much talking at all this entire year (except for the champions trophy, which Ronaldo was a part of). Reality needs to hit Ramos very quickly
In my opinion I doesn't matter what coach comes on now. real madrid were struggling with /without ronaldo since last season but it's worse without a goal scorer.. Zidane left while he could while in glory. He may have won UCL last season witch BTW he was a great manager no doubt but the team was struggling in la liga even with zidane it was ganna get worse even if he stayed they lost 3-0 to barcelona, got knocked out by leganes in the copa del rey, were loosing games agianst "easy teams " even UCL lost to Tottenham 3-1 I believe. They also had some questionable matched like the ones vs juventus and bayern. I'm a barca fan I don't hate madrid I don't wish the worst for them it's just my opinion. I could be wrong though...
Real madrid need brave players and coatch l don't know what perez doing with money he got last 3 years there is no legend in the team and the team not eager to win.
As an United fan myself, i fxxkin hate most of United fans always look after a shit club like Madrid. Real always unsettle our players, but some club supporters looks happy to be second fiddle to Real Madrid. Real Madrid is the club that I happily call shit. United fans who always soft spot for Real Madrid is a shit too.
Madrid don't deserve a legend... Perez is con artist, the captain is a dirt bag, and Madrid ends up booing those very legend's eventually... I can't count how many times Madrid fans booed Ronaldo and he kept delivering goals and trophies in return. Ungrateful bunch, don't deserve anything but the mayhem that's taking place.
@extremedude1234 dozens of video compilations right here on RUclips says differently... he can't do his job without put other players careers at risk, and on more than one occasion was caught laughing right after. It's not bias when theres proof, he's a dirt bag.
Real Madrid was very poor. Defence was shambles. They look shaky & made Lots of mistakes. Midfield was all over. lack of cohesion, no communication. They were really struggling to keep hold of this game. Busquets, Rakitic & Arthur Melo bossed the midfield. They controlled the game tempo. Madrid forward lack penetration/no link up play. This team look disoriented hardly trouble Barcelona defence. Benzema at least tried few times but my oh my Gareth bale was absolute disgrace. Hardly had any impact on this game whatsoever. was so poor Madrid needed to sub him off the field. As a star player in this team he needs to step up the game and get more involved. No diagonal run to create overload, no dropping deep to help team in build up play & disrupt Barca defence when your team really struggling to get hold of the ball. Jordi Alba ran all over him absolute disaster class perform for him. Against Barcelona you need to have good team pressing and not allow them time & space. They failed to do so and was punished severely.
Para Bina. com Busquets, rakitic & arthur melo was far superior than Modric, Kroos & Casemiro. They were really struggling to keep hold of the ball. Didn’t see any glimps of Fifa best player in that game whatsoever.Even when pressed Barcelona midfield was calm & collective. They could easily pass through them with ease. Madrid midfield lost the battle as Kroos & Modric was clueless. They were completely overshadowed by Barcelona trio.What really surprised me was Gareth bale performance utter disappointment.
SIMDICK Well According To FiFa Best Fifapro XI included 4 Real Madrid player and 3 off them happened to be Defenders. World Cup 2018( Varane) World Cup 2010 & Euro 2012 champion. They have won 3 UEFA champion with them. This team got good quality players in every department Simply no excuse.
Real Madrid players are aging.. has nothing to do with the coach!! Real Madrid defence is terrible. the midfielder is declining now.. the attack can't score goals.. Real Madrid have more problem what people actually think!!.. a lot of Zidane winning was late goals from Ramos ...
A lot of Madrid wins were late goal by who are you talking sentiments sounds like Ramos scored at least eighteen goals u made sense up until that stupid statement
djj 125 how is the so called one of the best midfield trio ever in the last 2 years declining in one clap that can’t be true kroos is just 28 isco is 25/26 casemiro 25/26 idk only modric the guy who was called the best of the world 2 months ago is 32
Abdul W its very simple and people who do not understand are dumb they just don’t have a player anymore who can bang 45 goals a season there are only 2 players who are doing that for 10 years messi and ronaldo and that guy is gone so they do not have that attacking abillity anymore and confidence to win games while barca without messi still has suarez who could score a couple of goals
@@zmnakohamasalih5016People who think Ronaldo leaving is what caused this are just plain Stupid this is the same team that DESTROYED Barcelona in the second leg of the Super Cup WITHOUT Ronaldo... so Ronaldo is not the reason ZIDANE is what's missing here.
I'm the only one who feels bad for lopetegui, real Madrid ruined his managing career by sacking him in RM and even Spain. RM ruined Spain's world cup and even themselves and you would expect his boys to defend him but really it was the opposite . real won't buy a replacement for Ronaldo but buying players that won't help rm so rm were trying to get rid of lopetuigi
Sacked In The Morning You're Getting Sacked In The Morning You're Getting Sacked In The Morning Sacked In The Morning You're Getting Sacked In The Morning
Ramos may be right. They won with Zidane not because of tactics but because of his man management which he learned from Ancelotti. Marcotti doesn't understand that while Lopetegui might've been fine managing Spain NT, he may have tried a different approach at Real M which obviously backfired on him. It doesn't necessarily mean the coaching or the man management was the same with both teams. Also, it's one thing managing NT quite another a club team.
Ramos is finished. He’s slow and a liability due to his always aggressive ways. Time to move to MLS or quit. Plays more like Mascherano in Argentina lineup
@Golden BoY You're a Ronaldo fan. Start comparing year by year performances(not stats) since 2006. Then come back and boldly say Ronaldo is a better footballer.
@Golden BoY quantity isn't necessarily quality. Zidane didn't score 40 goals per season, but he scored game and trophy winning goals. Stats don't mean a damn thing and I don't even a single Ronaldo assist that blew my mind away.
I think Conte is a World class coach, but he’s a tactical and defensive coach, he’s not the kinda guy that fits perfectly with Real Madrid. It’s the same with Mourinho’s appointment to Real Madrid, he won a few titles and overall had decent seasons but it was unsustainable. Real Madrid needs a man-manager, someone who is gonna control the players egos but then let them control the pitch. That’s why Ancelotti and Zidane were so successful there.
This is why, ladies and gentlemen, Zidane is a smartass. Not because he created a wonderful and cohesive system during his reign... but because his forecast about the future of the team was spot on. He saw what is happening now way in advance, and decided to leave at the perfect moment, without no one being ever able to blame him. So much class.
The problem isn't just CR7 but Zidane. I remember Real struggled before Zidane came in and fired Mourihno and then Benitez and have a history of not keeping managers for too long! So CR7's departure for sure didn't help and only made things worse but Zidane's departure was far more damaging for the club! Zidane was the best they've ever had...simple as that! If he was here today, I'm pretty sure Real would probably be the same as they were last year if not even better. Remember when CR7 won the balandor for the first time after helping UTD win the 2008 champions league and lost the following year to Messi. CR7 was the most important player for UTD. He left and UTD were pretty much the same a year later. They won the premier league in 2011 and were back in the Champions league final the same year which they lost to Barca again! Well, Man UTD had Alex Ferguson arguably the best football manager in history! So if you have a good manager, no player is irreplaceable not even Messi coz Barca just beat Real 5-1 while he was out injured and they did the same in the fall of 2015 by beating Real 0-4. When Neymar left, all Barca fans were devastated but they actually did better without him. If Messi now leaves, I'm pretty sure Barca will be fine as long as the manager understands to adjust the squad and adapt to the change and keep their good football going and ofcoz get a decent replacement. Ok, I've said too much!
then why did Real Madrid reached fourth place if zidane was there? Ronaldo din't score in the first few months, that's why they reached 4th place. If he hadn't started scoring goals, they would have been in 10th place.
@Jeffy Mathew, try again! Make sure you understand what I wrote! You didn't make a good point! Real Madrid won 9 champions leagues before CR7 and were the kings of European football for decades! Also, I never said Real Madrid didn't miss CR7 but that they missed Zidane a lot more! Please read first and don't just reply....
@@flowers379_ I dint read it cause It was too long. It based on the first line. I think you should improve in your writing skills. The first line/paragraph should be the summary on the whole text.
@@flowers379_ Stop with the lies. Cristiano is missed more. You just want to discredit him. Period. But before Zidane they already had a champions league
@@jeffymathew585 lol, I didn't think my writing would be graded but I guess you're right! I'm pretty sure I'd make lots of corrections if that was a term paper. I'd probably treat that as my first rough draft lol
I'm a Barca fan and I always respected Real Madrid as a tough opponent despite of all the dirty play they do. But the moment cr7 left I was disappointed and when they bought a gk selling him I lost all respect for that club.
Gotta love messi fans, they were saying it's because of real madrid team that cr7 was good now that they see how bad the team is without Ronaldo they are saying it was because of Zidane, like he was the one scoring for real.
No mate Courtois as n.o1 gk is a joke. The new manager is no were near Zidane for the way Madrid list plays and trusts in Zidane. The team has peaked btw just for your information. Signs were clear last season that the best players on that list are showing their age.
@@davidknowles605 Showing their age, and yet they still won a champions league. Courtois was keeper of the tournament at WC, so yeah I think its a little more than Courtois and Zidane. One does not simply replace a 50 goal a season player.
+ElSpewtardo you have the wrong angle on things my friend. I'm saying it's not just a Ronaldo factor. And you are seriously defending Courtois form right now? Um ok.... and you think Zidane not there anymore has no effect? Hmmm right
Sacking Lopetegui was Spain's loss, as the Spanish national side was playing quite good football under him and were in with a chance of going really far in the tournament. Getting rid of him caused a lot of disruption. Going to Real without enough prior preparation and without time to supervise additions to the squad was Real's undoing. So, Lopetegui ended up falling between two stools and sitting on neither.
Not true. Spain were bang average under lopetegui. They couldnt even beat morocco. They got lucky against iran with that deflected goal. All they played was boring, failed tiki taka system.
@@user-qh4db9lk6u Spain never played under Lopetegui in the World Cup. When the tournament started he had already been sacked. It was Hierro who was in charge. Wake up. Spain beat Argentina 6-1 under Lopetegui.
I think these fuck knuckles have miss read this whole thing. When you are a captain you have to be on the manager's side because if you turn against him that would make things worse. Once the manager leaves you can have your own opinion and he voiced it. Every Madrid player tried to defend Lopetegui, it obviously wasn't genuine you could see that on the pitch.
Shit speaking Ramos will leave football in full disgrace.. mark my words... And if it is for Conte... Conte is much greater human n coach than this ego bully father fucking shit piece Ramos
What are these Barca fans doing here 😁😁😁 Mind your Catalan business. I just want Guti to come and stop living under the shadows of the first Galacticos.
Certainly not the coach to blame .Ramos ,benzema,are fading away,bale injury prone ...Ronaldo has been pushing this team all a alone for 9yrs ....his individual performances are exceptional ..week in week out...Madrid need to learn how to respect legend ......We will continue to miss you Ronaldo ...All time great....
Lopetegui is another manager of the old school to hit the dust. Mourinho, Lopetegui - they're all showing their outdatedness. There are two schools of managers - the new kind and the old kind. The old kind are the ones who managed Spain, Germany, Argentina and Italy to oblivion. The new breed are Pep, Emery, Sarri and Klopp. Low is struggling to change his managing and stay in his job. There are signs he is awakening. But his old Germany games are exactly the type of managing that gets you nowhere these days. I'm not sure Conte is the right manager either. He flopped in his second year at Chelsea. I think he's got one foot in the old school. These are managers who cannot show imagination when attacking. Their defending isn't so good either. Plus Courtois is not good as a goalkeeper as everyone thought. I can see why in the Premier League he was not in the top 2 of goalkeepers. He looked good because Chelsea's players sat back a lot of the times. He comes out too forward too early. Same as what Lloris is doing. They do this because they're nervous. They must stay back at the net no matter how threatened they feel. Lloris is too proactive - he's trying to be sweeper-keeper. And Poch has him doing these long balls for goal kicks. These long balls are old-fashioned and statistically proven to result in a high rate of dispossession for the club compared to shorter passes from the goal. There were signs of improvement in their last game, the one with Barca, but it was a case of too little too late. I think it's right he be sacked. There is no excuse for losing against smaller clubs lower in the table. And Benzema should have been replaced instead of the goalkeeper. He is a liability. He cannot get sitters in. He's not a playmaker either. Either you assist, set up plays or shoot goals (or do all three). If you do neither, then you should get out. He's been underperforming for too long. He coasted by because CR7 was there next to him shooting most of the goals. He should have stepped up once CR7 was gone. Why should they buy another galactico just to support Benzema and carry the team for him and other non-performers in the club? Bale showed signs he was not up to snuff in the preseason games. He's probably getting older and losing his touch. Also, he cannot fill CR7's shoes. CR7 wasn't just a crackshot, he knew how to create plays and get the attack going and do team play. People just look at his goals and ignore all the other stuff he did. Compare him to Harry Kane. Kane is all but invisible except at the last second when he runs forward to tap it in. (Kane is trying to improve his forward playing but he's not quite there yet.) CR7 offers much much more. He truly is a wonderful forward wing as well as a great marksman. Number 9s these days are required to do more than be there to shoot the goal in. Firmino works hard as a defender, not just a shooter/false nine. He tackles and presses hard as any other player in the team. When have you seen Kane and Benzema do that? The bad crossing was another factor. I can't tell you how many teams fail in their attack because of the nature of their crosses. In Real's case, the cross is too LOW. Such a little detail like this can have a big impact on the game. I saw them do it consistently. One failed cross after another - too low, so easily intercepted by the opposition. These are the things the coach can change. It's not beyond the ability of the players to give their crosses a bit more lift. He's not asking them to do 30-yard goal shoots while doing a somersault. I am sure these poor crosses are because Lopetegui hasn't told them to do otherwise. These mistakes he should pick up every game. I don't understand how coaches can go into the next match not seeing these errors and repeating them. They must examine every failed attack with a microscope. It's their JOB. They are paid 10s of millions to do that. You play with these errors consistently and you will get consistent losses. These errors are systemic. They are not the result of a player's individual mistake. And the manager is the one who should be recognizing them and stamping them out.
Of course he wasnt the sole reason, but he scored 450 goals in 438 games for them and was top scorer in the ucl for the past 7 years in a row whilst madrid won 4 of those in the last 5 years.
1. Perez need to leave asap 2. All front 3 needed to replace with new signings 3. A new defender also required 4. Coach must be given freedom to sign big players
1- Sure let's forget that the guy helped get 3 CL in a row, they are struggling now. Let's FIRE HIM!!! ... SMH 2- Fans always say that, let me ask you... WHO IS AVAILABLE? Neymar. Hazard. Mbappe. Kane. Etc. NOPE. No elite player is available. So again, who can they have signed? 3- Romas and Varane did a fine job last year, but sure... Let's replace a young player who has been doing well or the captain of the team, who is loved by fans. Great logic. 4. You don't just give freedom to a new manager, every team has a budget. A manager can't just go and buy whoever he wants. Even Pep cant get whoever he wants, and he is at ManC who is filthy rich, yet you think Lopetegi is going to come and select whoever he wants? How many managers actually get the freedom to sign whoever they want? ... I can't think of any. Your points made sense... until you start thinking.
eh, whatever... la liga is the same boring telenovela with only two main characters, year after year. don't let this news distract you from the fact the corrupt league conspires to make sure that RM and Barca are the richest and most advantaged clubs so that it is virtually impossible for any other club to win much of anything.
@Yung cash register A.K.A Lil Broomstick i season out of how many???? 88 season La Liga crowned a champion. 58 times it has been RM or Barca. IN the last 25 yrs you know how many times either one of them didn't win it? 5 times. You're welcome. You can sit down now.
@Tim Dev I feel bad that your masculinity is so triggered by a SPANISH word that clearly is relevant here because we're talking about SPANISH TEAMS! You can sit down too, American meathead.
@@nihilisticbarbie Right? It might end up being Man City bc of Pep and the money they spend, but at least for most of the season it appears like they, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Man U, Chelsea could possibly win it. Plus the champions league and europa spots are hotly contested. 99% of the time Barca and RM begin at the top and stay there until the end and no one else is really a serious contender except one off Atletico.
Remove varane Let Kaylor Navas play important matches Improve defence system with new signings Replace benzema with dybala Keep Bale bench for a while to lit his potential Sell marshellano, vinicious Jr, courtois and asensio Bring Kane, hazard or Mbappe Most of it all hunt Dybala from Juventus he is gold then problem solved
Ramos as captain must give 100% support for the manager, at least in public. Expressing public critics would only generate a media sh!t storm. Now that Lopetegui is gone, he's free to express his opinion and what he says is the true. I don't see hypocrisy there. Some critics could be made to Florentino as he left Cristiano, Morata, James, Pepe and Kovacic go but there are still plenty of good players. If Madrid were #2 or #3 in La Liga it could be understood but the team is #9 and not one player plays well. Lopetegui just isn't managing well for some reasons.
Don't blame Lopetegui. The higher ups are to blame for RM. Let's go back to Ozil, how about Morata was in good form at the time, what about James? Why send Kovacic on loan? I know Courtois is a great keeper but the Costa Rican was already playing excellent as keeper. That is a keeper RM did not need.
-They sold CR (basically eliminating about 50 goals for the season). -They bought a gk; already had a gk (Navas...is probably top 5 in the world) -They need to play Asensio, Mariano and Vinicius Jr up front...but they're too fucking stupid to see how good those three would be together.
PrinceSeth The Conqueror penaldo fans triggered while this guy is speaking the truth lol. Real madrid sucks now because zidane leave, not fucking penaldo
I don't quite understand why Benzema is still there. You don't necessarily need to buy the best striker in the world but you also don't have to stick with Benzema either. Aside from the Lewandowski's and the Agueros, there at least 5 players who would score more than him. Mandzukic, Werner, even Balotelli
I stopped watching Madrid matches despite being a die Hard fan for years ! How could you sell the only player who made the differences in Matches . Made us smile and was always there for us when we needed him! Look at him now in Juve !
Beg to differ. Ramos is wrong. Madrid right now need a manager more with technical prowess than man management. The team has been inferior to Barcelona in the last few years and only because of Cristiano they were winning the Champions Leagues. Cristiano couldn't obviously drag them for a 38 game long league season and hence they were inferior in the league. No one stepped up. No one. Ever. So, these guys need to take a break, stop acting like they've completed football and cut down on their egos. Specially Ramos. They needed a manager with more man management skills in the past, when the team had a structure, and the players knew how to play. Now, they are a complete disgrace. How dare Ramos keep such an ego still is comical. Pique has won more than him at Barcelona.
Real Madrid this season is proof the addition or release of one player is not about one position but chemistry and heart is much more important for a TEAM
The fallacy in the counter argument about Lopetegui being able to control them as the Spain manager is that some of the foreign players felt that he favors Spanish players over foreign players
The Panelists never even discussed the Ronaldo factor which to me is the major factor at play here. When you sell arguably best player in the world and the player the team was built around for almost a decade abruptly, even the best coach in the world will suffer the consequences for a while or maybe a long while before the team stabilizes. Too bad Lopetegui was the scapegoat here.
Eden Hazard is a very happy and positive person. Moving to Real Madrid would be terrible for personal reasons and it would hinder his legacy. Hope he makes the smart choice and stays away from that toxic dump.
Guti is the one who knows players and is comfortable with them. Real need someone who has been with them for a while.. Like Zidane was assistant with Ancelotti so he know the players and players trust him. Guti seems like a guy who has good relationship with players but yes coming to a big stage like managing Real is never easy.
real Madrid sell CR and then buy a goalkeeper lol
They got him for free
😂😂😂😂
@Krishna Gurung exactly...You think that hurts their budget bc it doesn't
@@romeodesilva9408 it does when they're gonna build a new stadium.
And it's probably going to happen soon, maybe next year
@@romeodesilva9408 It does when you consider their Ronaldo replacement costed the same amount... md7! 😂😂😂
Madrid ownership only have themselves to blame. How can you bring in a coach and not let him buy a single outfield player? You loan out players that could help you such as James and Kovacic without a replacement. You sell arguably the best player in football history and you replace him with who? Mariano, a player you loaned out to Lyon who has done very little to justify even wearing the no. 7 jersey. Worst of all, your players simply turned on Ronaldo and kept saying how much better off they are without him, while they forgot to play like a proper team
Jamil Mukhtar Couldn't have said it better mate.
Very beautifully fucking illustrated
true that, but that still doesn't give them excuse on losing from moscow, levante, etc.....that squad is still world class and it was either overplayed, overconfident or under managed which we would never know, so sacking the coach might shift blame from players and they would have the feeling that a new manager could quickly turn around things
Jamil Mukhtar
Pretty much spot on.
The fuck? Real madrid didn't sell cr7, he wanted to leave because he was sick of spanish taxes.
Lotepegui's mistake was to go with possessional football with players who only know how to play direct football. But he's biggest mistake was ditching Spain for Real Madrid. As an individual, Lopetegui hasn't accomplished much to handle 3 times back to back champions league winners. On the top of it, Ronaldo left. He was everything at Madrid. He took all the spotlight, pressure, criticism, hatred, every possible kind of attention. It was all on him in past 9 years. Other players were unhappy about their game time. Where are they now? Real Madrid's style is star power. But these current players can't play individually and now it's proven that their ego is getting in their way to play as a team. Real tried to bet on Bale but they forget he is the injury wizard of Wales. And benzema , he had power to destroy any team but now lost that potential. Isco as a forward? Lol just lol. Ramos? No doubt about his captaincy but he's ego is just too much. Better without Ronaldo huh? Yeah better at losing without him.
Ulqcifer
Yeah, apparently people (players) forgot how important Ronaldo was to Real Madrid.
Facts
*his
*mic drop
Ulqcifer he didn’t ditch Spain he got sacked by Spain.
Tbh real were struggling in the league last season it was ronaldo's performances that kept them in the champions league.
Agree
Exactly
True but Ronaldo stayed at home when they faced Bayern and Liverpool though.
@@Hobie02425 why can't you say that madrid stayed to play better which resulted in Ronaldo playing better? These Ronaldo fan boys always like this.
@@Hobie02425 Yea maybe you have a point.
Cant imagine CR7's smug face right now at sinking Madrid boat, especially after some players claimed they are a better team without him 😂.
Trash talking too early
ejump0 "we're better off without him" 😂😂 ridiculous for them to say that, now they could only look back..
Well, CR7 did gave hint he's leaving on the day he lifts the UCL throphy. Was Zidane leaving decision made only after taking into account that CR7 is leaving?, well i dont know.
CR7 or Zidane gave more impact on Madrid performance upto that last UCL, you decide.
But when the current player could just bid farewell to CR7 n wish him luck n just say the team will adapt w/o him, no, they have to run their mouth extra mile. Now Karma just came so soon 🤔
@KingOne ronaldo only had 1 trophy less season at Madrid bum stop making up stats
@KingOne are you dumb James and Morata are you high I'm not even gonna argue clearly you're dumb you jus proved it with that comment
It's not up to cr only they needed backup after him but Perez didn't buy that backup and players were right u can't cry for cr just look for solution I know there is no cr backup in the world but cr don't play in every team but they are doing fine so Madrid have to look for a solution instead of crying for cr
These Sergios aren't loyal...
Chill Roose never was he’s a little diva good defender but f ups a lot
Lol
U a real one
i think his comment was more about conte than lopetegui
*ain't bro.. u gotta use *ain't
What about that GK .. maybe now Navas will get back in the line-up..
I mean it is not like Courtois doesn't deserve to not be in the starting 11. Shows how awful of a buy it was to get two talented keepers like that
if you're gonna blame a goalkeeper you also have to look at the defense.
Courtoir still makes his good saves, it's just that the whole team's spirit is down, no one is to be blamed here, except for the sour ungrateful fanbase
skip1837
GK isn’t the problem. It’s that defense that gets Real Madrid in trouble time and time again.
They gave courtois trouble. They gave navas trouble, and they gave Casillas trouble.
Madrids defense has always been an issue.
@NicholasJ Walker the whole team is in shambles, no fighting spirit, no teamwork, no tactics, even if their tactics was good, they'd still lose, just can't get over the loss of a teammate, yet the say they don't need him
Ramos is a snake in the grass. He made comments about Ronaldo not being a good teammate and they'll play more as a team now that he's gone. He must have always been envious of Ronaldo being the alpha. I'm not surprised by his new comments about Lopetegeui at all.
With Zidane Real Madrid was 20 points behind Barcelona!! I don't understand why people still thinks it's the coach fold? Yeah they won the UCL but the had a goalscorer player who scored in UCL for fun... Real Madrid players are declining.. It's simple..
Real Madrid have the players they just have shitty forwards who can't score lmao. Marcelo carrying real Madrid
Splatzy Asensio is 22
@Splatzy hey man are you okay, come back please. Did Nacho Fernandez spill the nacho on your iPad? Do the disco with Isco to get it off.
The Coach is shit. Pure and simple. Won nothing as FC Porto Manager despite how good his squad was for those 2 years.
It's kind of like Barca in 2016/17, they got comfortable with MSN in front, playing the same type of football every time. Without proper tactical changes they will go down even more
To be honest RM has made some incredibly dumb decisions in the last couple of years coming to this. CR7 made a great choice by leaving and now that he’s gone RM is starting to regret letting him go, appreciate the players that make your team special and don’t take them for granted. Everyone wants to be Messi or CR7 but when the time comes to step up and fill those shoes, people just fall short.
Jairo Ronquillo well said bro especially Gareth bale
KC3 Kelechi exactly! Extremely overrated and never consistent!
Hi i am from the future, ronaldo regrets leaving and wants to come back
Helooo hope you are fine
Hope he got one hell of a paycheck for screwing his national team. Sleep tight.
How did he spain were awful after 2012 .
😂😂
mr shakir He screwed Spain by accepting Madrid while he was at spain. And now that he got sacked by Madrid they had to pay him €18M
Its not like he would lead spain to title, the man is trash nobody
@@zealousrider6612 lol who the fuck are you to be able to talk like that ?
Real without Ronaldo is like the Cavs without LeBron. Oilers without McDavid. Hell, Roland Garros without Nadal. No identity, no swagger, no bravado.
As others before me have pointed out, Ronaldo bailed this team out on numerous occasions these last few years. Without his ridiculous scoring rate, Real would never have won the CL once - let alone three times in a row. We all know that...
This isn't basket ball where you can defend and attack within 3 sec football requires a strong team each cable of his position and star player who shows up when he is needed, ever wondered why ronaldo and messi never won the world cup?
gajemoederpesten bro even with or without McDavid Oilers still suck😂
mr shakir That’s true. But as the dude said, Ronaldo has bailed them out so many times in his time there that they wouldn’t have won those things without him. Just look at his numbers and goals in big games, no one comes close.
Producer Consumer Hahaha you got a point there. Freakin hate the Oilers lol
No Real Madrid is the biggest team in Europe.
It's madness only 14 game's played and he is sacked , who ever they pick now will be OK till the end of the season cause surely they can't keep firing people after 14 game's...
steven clark that's how Real Madrid runs.
steven clark
You wanna bet lol
Crazy
They can't lose to barça like that rafael Benitez got sacked the same way you lose to barça you might survive but not 5-1 with no Messi no less
remember Banitez??
Lol. Sacked by Spain because of Real Madrid and now sacked by Real Madrid, all within a few months.
He is an average manager. What were real Madrid thinking 🤦♂️
The President is the one to blamed, because he did buy any quality player, Madrid need players like hazard, nemar,mabppa,
Toruk Makto then probably hired again within the next month or so, either that or Rafa Benitez gets a second chance
@@alimamymomohkamara923 this isn't fifa 19 where you can just purchase players within a few months of them signing contracts with new clubs asshole
Walks away with millions after being sacked 😩
People actually underrate Ronaldo’s importance in Madrid’s success over the last 9 years. Ramos is the most egotistical player in World Football, who isn’t actually that good at defending (scores goals better than he defends) and has been lucky to play with such great players over the course of his career; his true defensive abilities are being exposed now and he knows it
He was a fantastic RB.
He stepped up at crunch time so he has his importance to this squad .
Atlast someone acknowledged that he is a pathetic defender . Knew it all these years he was .
With Ronald Madrid were perennial losers to Barcelona. 5 - 0, 6 - 2, 3 - 1, 4 - 0. And remember in 9 years of Ronaldo at Madrid they won only 2 La Liga cups while Barcelona won 6.
Saleh Yassin you cannot win league if your defence is shit. Ronaldo has been scoring 50 goals almost every season but if your defence is gonna give away goals then Madrid not winning the league is not down to Ronaldo .
No. Ronaldo has the pedigree the experience the knowledge. You cannot say Real Madrid has all this, they don’t. Ronaldo carried the team on his back. Ramos would be nothing without Ronaldo. The team has now lost their offensive threat and other teams are not afraid to attack Madrid. The only reason Real was good defensively was because they were good offensively. Many teams had to stay back and defend. So to say Ramos is a good player is a joke. You put Ramos in another team or keep him at this current club without a Ronaldo and see how many goals they concede. A player like Ramos needs a player like Ronaldo to make him look good.
yessir, so true!!
outlawfly Sure. If you call nothing from 2003 - 2014 a success in Europe. They were shit. It’s only when Ronaldo joined did this Real Madrid team ever win. 2005 Ramos joined Madrid and won nothing without Ronaldo. The joke is on you. You should be on your hands and knees giving a BJ to Ronaldo for your Madrid. Because they will not win anything this season, lol. Enjoy :D
@outlawfly Maybe because if you are slightly educated and you can see that I was talking about Sergio Ramos. Ramos came to Madrid in 2005. My argument is simple and an accurate fact. Ronaldo carried them on their back. Without Ronaldo real is not going to win anything. That's not Ironic, its a simple fact. It's like what Alex Furguson stated. Ronaldo could play for any team and be a winner. How is Real Madrid doing without Ronaldo this season? I don't care about the old generation they were different players. Liverpool also had a golden generation. That doesn't mean they should be the best now. I can guarantee that Real will not win anything this season. Why? Ronaldo is not there.
outlawfly Try and read my first comment and see if I changed the subject.
outlawfly Dude. Everything you said I already know. The fact is Real Madrid needed Ronaldo. It’s as simple as that. I can take you through all the stats and how Manchester United won with Ronaldo too and how many times he won the premier league with Manchester United and how Alex Ferguson stated he could play for any club and be a winner. That’s from a legend! Not from you. But I am not going to do that. Because it’s pointless talking about the past. The past teams have long gone. Players make the team. So, what I will do is very simple. We will see if Real Madrid will win anything this season. They have won the champions league 3 times in a row. We will see if they can do it again. And your argument for Real Madrid winning the league multiple times with Ramos doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a 2 team league. Recently it has been a 3 team league. It’s not amazing to know that Real won the league during that time. Because there were only two teams competing for it during that time. The real answer will come at the end of the season when Real Madrid will win nothing. Until then. You can give me as many stats as you like. History is not now. They will win nothing. And that is a fact. Real are now nothing without Ronaldo.
zidane and cr7 knew this would happen eventually.
Conte is too smart to go to Madrid. Real represent the opposite of what conte represents which everyone fighting together as a unit and following the mangers vision for the team. In Madrid, they have success with individual stars and it’s always been about the star power with real. I’m not saying real doesn’t play like a team because you have to in order to win three ucl but what I’m saying is that there isn’t a system in place like juventus or Barcelona. Look at real without Ronaldo, if there was a system in place they could handle his departure better. Also, with Real Madrid even if you win the league you still can’t get fired so conte is right to go to a club that will appreciate and value him because he is the type of manager that gives everything he has to the team just like he did even he was a player. Conte doesn’t need the money either so he can wait for another club that has lower expectations. Hopefully he goes to Milan and brings them back to the champions league where they belong.
I think he'll take the Madrid job. He has nothing to prove in Serie A and the chance to win titles in 3 leagues might be too much of a temptation.
Some managers will take this position for the money only. I would like to see Wenger at Madrid but he is too "nice" to last at Madrid.
@@nathanielbaxter533 Some jobs are not meant to be taken. For example, Mou to United. That was a shithole he inherited. And everyone pinned the blame of 7 years of failure onto him from day 1. Football fans are quick to forget. Right now, its the same predicament for any class manager thinking about the job offer from Real Madrid. No one wants to be the scapegoat.
@@teerificbitch True. But Real are proven winners who have the ability to attract the best players in the world. Conte's proved that he can win in high pressure jobs, so why not take the chance.
He will age quickly cause that pressure is too much lool
No one will do as Zidane did, and RM really needs a player that can score goals.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Brilliant.
@@extremedude1234 The following year after Ronaldo left, ManU finished second in the league, 1 point behind the champion.
The year after that, they WON the league. Doesnt seem like Ronaldo departure was such a big deal.
If ManU sucks now, its because Ferguson retired, NOT because of Ronaldo's departure.
@@Kiddingyoumust Ronaldos real influence has always been in the champions league
extremedude1234 we suck cause Ferguson left lol not cause of Ronaldo we went onto win 2 of the next 4 titles and got to a champions league final 2 years after he left, Rooney scored like 36 goals that season while injured for abit I think we did well replacing him
Gin-Nius. Well if we are the idiots, and can point out the obvious, then how come RM didn’t do anything to make it up, bought a few players that can’t even make the team.
Player management is very important like Ramos said but Madrid didn’t do very well last season in La Liga, the champions was won with lots of Ronaldo goals and last minute saves (Juventus), and so far this season the defense has been mediocre at best, midfield below par, and no attacking prowess whatsoever. So the players can blame the coach all they want but the truth is that the players do the talking on the field and they haven’t done much talking at all this entire year (except for the champions trophy, which Ronaldo was a part of). Reality needs to hit Ramos very quickly
In my opinion I doesn't matter what coach comes on now. real madrid were struggling with /without ronaldo since last season but it's worse without a goal scorer.. Zidane left while he could while in glory. He may have won UCL last season witch BTW he was a great manager no doubt but the team was struggling in la liga even with zidane it was ganna get worse even if he stayed they lost 3-0 to barcelona, got knocked out by leganes in the copa del rey, were loosing games agianst "easy teams " even UCL lost to Tottenham 3-1 I believe. They also had some questionable matched like the ones vs juventus and bayern. I'm a barca fan I don't hate madrid I don't wish the worst for them it's just my opinion. I could be wrong though...
Real madrid need brave players and coatch l don't know what perez doing with money he got last 3 years there is no legend in the team and the team not eager to win.
As an United fan myself, i fxxkin hate most of United fans always look after a shit club like Madrid. Real always unsettle our players, but some club supporters looks happy to be second fiddle to Real Madrid. Real Madrid is the club that I happily call shit. United fans who always soft spot for Real Madrid is a shit too.
He have to slow down a bit
Madrid don't deserve a legend... Perez is con artist, the captain is a dirt bag, and Madrid ends up booing those very legend's eventually... I can't count how many times Madrid fans booed Ronaldo and he kept delivering goals and trophies in return. Ungrateful bunch, don't deserve anything but the mayhem that's taking place.
@extremedude1234 dozens of video compilations right here on RUclips says differently... he can't do his job without put other players careers at risk, and on more than one occasion was caught laughing right after. It's not bias when theres proof, he's a dirt bag.
@extremedude1234 I'm not a Barca fan... so at this point you can just go ahead and stfu, and stop arguing for the sake of it.
Real Madrid was very poor. Defence was shambles. They look shaky & made Lots of mistakes. Midfield was all over. lack of cohesion, no communication. They were really struggling to keep hold of this game. Busquets, Rakitic & Arthur Melo bossed the midfield. They controlled the game tempo. Madrid forward lack penetration/no link up play. This team look disoriented hardly trouble Barcelona defence. Benzema at least tried few times but my oh my Gareth bale was absolute disgrace. Hardly had any impact on this game whatsoever. was so poor Madrid needed to sub him off the field. As a star player in this team he needs to step up the game and get more involved. No diagonal run to create overload, no dropping deep to help team in build up play & disrupt Barca defence when your team really struggling to get hold of the ball. Jordi Alba ran all over him absolute disaster class perform for him. Against Barcelona you need to have good team pressing and not allow them time & space. They failed to do so and was punished severely.
But.. but.. but.. they have Modric.. best player.. lol
hellfarm66
But Real Madrid have Modric though. He’s the best FIFA player on the pitch
😆😆😆😆
Para Bina. com Busquets, rakitic & arthur melo was far superior than Modric, Kroos & Casemiro. They were really struggling to keep hold of the ball. Didn’t see any glimps of Fifa best player in that game whatsoever.Even when pressed Barcelona midfield was calm & collective. They could easily pass through them with ease. Madrid midfield lost the battle as Kroos & Modric was clueless. They were completely overshadowed by Barcelona trio.What really surprised me was Gareth bale performance utter disappointment.
Real have never had a defence 2 speak of.
SIMDICK Well According To FiFa Best Fifapro XI included 4 Real Madrid player and 3 off them happened to be Defenders. World Cup 2018( Varane) World Cup 2010 & Euro 2012 champion. They have won 3 UEFA champion with them. This team got good quality players in every department Simply no excuse.
Real Madrid players are aging.. has nothing to do with the coach!! Real Madrid defence is terrible. the midfielder is declining now.. the attack can't score goals.. Real Madrid have more problem what people actually think!!.. a lot of Zidane winning was late goals from Ramos ...
A lot of Madrid wins were late goal by who are you talking sentiments sounds like Ramos scored at least eighteen goals u made sense up until that stupid statement
djj 125 how is the so called one of the best midfield trio ever in the last 2 years declining in one clap that can’t be true kroos is just 28 isco is 25/26 casemiro 25/26 idk only modric the guy who was called the best of the world 2 months ago is 32
And these r the same players that just won the CL😕
Abdul W its very simple and people who do not understand are dumb they just don’t have a player anymore who can bang 45 goals a season there are only 2 players who are doing that for 10 years messi and ronaldo and that guy is gone so they do not have that attacking abillity anymore and confidence to win games while barca without messi still has suarez who could score a couple of goals
@@zmnakohamasalih5016People who think Ronaldo leaving is what caused this are just plain Stupid this is the same team that DESTROYED Barcelona in the second leg of the Super Cup WITHOUT Ronaldo... so Ronaldo is not the reason ZIDANE is what's missing here.
I'm the only one who feels bad for lopetegui, real Madrid ruined his managing career by sacking him in RM and even Spain. RM ruined Spain's world cup and even themselves and you would expect his boys to defend him but really it was the opposite . real won't buy a replacement for Ronaldo but buying players that won't help rm so rm were trying to get rid of lopetuigi
he is doing well in Sevilla. quite happy now
Momo nomics he just won the Europa league so that’s good
"and even ruined themselves" post lopetegui they prooceds to win laliga 2x, super cup, 2x spanish super cup and a Champions League...
Top 4
Barcelona
Sevilla
Atletico
Alves
PewDiePie l And the Spanish FA will still find a way to get them into the ‘Champions’ League.
PewDiePie l can’t wait for alaves to smash the likes of Liverpool and City in the CL 👍
Dani Alves a whole team on his own and at 4th place damn
Paul Murphy they won’t need to. They’ll qualify by winning Europa league!
I hope alaves can become another liecester City or at least make top 4
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But loptigui will still be manager until 2019 right
@@abdi2241 I can't tell if that's a joke but in case it isnt:
He got sacked ~12 hrs ago
@@andrewgriesel1049 but how? Isnt until January next year where everything begins like player transfers and new managers etc u know what i mean?
@@andrewgriesel1049 are u telling he won't manage next game for madrid?
So Real Madrid sell their star forward and then buy a world class goalkeeper when they already have one. WTF
They got trashed 5-1 and blame it on the coach .......
Ramos may be right. They won with Zidane not because of tactics but because of his man management which he learned from Ancelotti. Marcotti doesn't understand that while Lopetegui might've been fine managing Spain NT, he may have tried a different approach at Real M which obviously backfired on him. It doesn't necessarily mean the coaching or the man management was the same with both teams. Also, it's one thing managing NT quite another a club team.
lopetegi should've got fired when mariono got number7 , what a clown
Ramos is finished. He’s slow and a liability due to his always aggressive ways. Time to move to MLS or quit. Plays more like Mascherano in Argentina lineup
R A shut up Ramos is the best defender in Europe and it is clear
Raheim Brown haha best in Europe,,,, not even close. Piquet, Miranda, Marquinhos, Chiellini, Godin, Hummels, Bonnucci.....etc
@@MrRapparicio benatia, thiago silva, vertonghen and many more.
extremedude1234 ok Einstein
'Plays more like Mascherano in Argentina lineup' broooo 😂
How many times has Gab Marcotti been wrong about Real Madrid?
Why would any manager want to take that sacking job?? They are joke in world of football.
they a sold a goal scorer and bought a goalkeeper, now the team cant score 😂😂😂
Zidane’s sitting there like, “I’ve been gone for just a couple minutes and somehow you’re 9th in the table?!!?”
Gab the realest guy on the entire show
They depended to much on Ronaldo. Real Madrid has no one to blame but themselves. When Barcelona plays without Messi they still play like Barcelona.
And people say meh..Ronaldo only score goals 😂😂
Are you saying people are wrong?
Isn't that what he does?
... Im confused.
@@Kiddingyoumust I am just being sarcastic here 😑
@Golden BoY You're a Ronaldo fan. Start comparing year by year performances(not stats) since 2006. Then come back and boldly say Ronaldo is a better footballer.
@Golden BoY quantity isn't necessarily quality. Zidane didn't score 40 goals per season, but he scored game and trophy winning goals. Stats don't mean a damn thing and I don't even a single Ronaldo assist that blew my mind away.
I think Conte is a World class coach, but he’s a tactical and defensive coach, he’s not the kinda guy that fits perfectly with Real Madrid. It’s the same with Mourinho’s appointment to Real Madrid, he won a few titles and overall had decent seasons but it was unsustainable. Real Madrid needs a man-manager, someone who is gonna control the players egos but then let them control the pitch. That’s why Ancelotti and Zidane were so successful there.
Who replace him. Please not Jose. Conte much better
Chelsea fan??
This is why, ladies and gentlemen, Zidane is a smartass. Not because he created a wonderful and cohesive system during his reign... but because his forecast about the future of the team was spot on. He saw what is happening now way in advance, and decided to leave at the perfect moment, without no one being ever able to blame him. So much class.
Wanna hear a joke
Real Madrid
Imagine if Wenger wins the treble straight away 🤣
The problem isn't just CR7 but Zidane. I remember Real struggled before Zidane came in and fired Mourihno and then Benitez and have a history of not keeping managers for too long! So CR7's departure for sure didn't help and only made things worse but Zidane's departure was far more damaging for the club! Zidane was the best they've ever had...simple as that! If he was here today, I'm pretty sure Real would probably be the same as they were last year if not even better. Remember when CR7 won the balandor for the first time after helping UTD win the 2008 champions league and lost the following year to Messi. CR7 was the most important player for UTD. He left and UTD were pretty much the same a year later. They won the premier league in 2011 and were back in the Champions league final the same year which they lost to Barca again! Well, Man UTD had Alex Ferguson arguably the best football manager in history! So if you have a good manager, no player is irreplaceable not even Messi coz Barca just beat Real 5-1 while he was out injured and they did the same in the fall of 2015 by beating Real 0-4. When Neymar left, all Barca fans were devastated but they actually did better without him. If Messi now leaves, I'm pretty sure Barca will be fine as long as the manager understands to adjust the squad and adapt to the change and keep their good football going and ofcoz get a decent replacement. Ok, I've said too much!
then why did Real Madrid reached fourth place if zidane was there? Ronaldo din't score in the first few months, that's why they reached 4th place. If he hadn't started scoring goals, they would have been in 10th place.
@Jeffy Mathew, try again! Make sure you understand what I wrote! You didn't make a good point! Real Madrid won 9 champions leagues before CR7 and were the kings of European football for decades! Also, I never said Real Madrid didn't miss CR7 but that they missed Zidane a lot more! Please read first and don't just reply....
@@flowers379_ I dint read it cause It was too long. It based on the first line. I think you should improve in your writing skills. The first line/paragraph should be the summary on the whole text.
@@flowers379_ Stop with the lies. Cristiano is missed more. You just want to discredit him. Period. But before Zidane they already had a champions league
@@jeffymathew585 lol, I didn't think my writing would be graded but I guess you're right! I'm pretty sure I'd make lots of corrections if that was a term paper. I'd probably treat that as my first rough draft lol
I'm a Barca fan and I always respected Real Madrid as a tough opponent despite of all the dirty play they do. But the moment cr7 left I was disappointed and when they bought a gk selling him I lost all respect for that club.
Gotta love messi fans, they were saying it's because of real madrid team that cr7 was good now that they see how bad the team is without Ronaldo they are saying it was because of Zidane, like he was the one scoring for real.
No mate Courtois as n.o1 gk is a joke. The new manager is no were near Zidane for the way Madrid list plays and trusts in Zidane. The team has peaked btw just for your information. Signs were clear last season that the best players on that list are showing their age.
@@davidknowles605 Showing their age, and yet they still won a champions league. Courtois was keeper of the tournament at WC, so yeah I think its a little more than Courtois and Zidane. One does not simply replace a 50 goal a season player.
+ElSpewtardo you have the wrong angle on things my friend. I'm saying it's not just a Ronaldo factor. And you are seriously defending Courtois form right now? Um ok.... and you think Zidane not there anymore has no effect? Hmmm right
@@davidknowles605 of course Zidane had an impact on the team. No one can deny that but messi fans are denying the huge impact Ronaldo had on real
Are they really? Where?
Rumors saying they’re still not feeling Cristianos absence
This guy gets sacked and Joachim Lowe still has a job. Insane.
Well he's not a Turkish-German, so...
Lowe is 10× better. Its just the curse which caused germans to lose. Lopetegui is pretty much an average manager.
Low won a world cup. Lop has done fuck all.
@@laughaway7955 that's not cool
Zidane looking like an absolute genious 3 Champions after and a few months into the season
Perez sold cr7 for 100 million to buy vinicions jr and rodergy for 100 million lol
Vini's gonna win the ballon dor now💀
I wish I could get $18 million when I get sacked
Easy money
The end is near, real will be relegated
Lol never
🙂
what did u say again mate?
Yeah Ramos had no problem when lopetegui and Spain were dominant but all of a sudden that's changed? Hypocritical
Perez better be ready to spend if Conte goes to Real.
Sacking Lopetegui was Spain's loss, as the Spanish national side was playing quite good football under him and were in with a chance of going really far in the tournament. Getting rid of him caused a lot of disruption. Going to Real without enough prior preparation and without time to supervise additions to the squad was Real's undoing. So, Lopetegui ended up falling between two stools and sitting on neither.
Not true. Spain were bang average under lopetegui. They couldnt even beat morocco. They got lucky against iran with that deflected goal. All they played was boring, failed tiki taka system.
@@user-qh4db9lk6u Spain never played under Lopetegui in the World Cup. When the tournament started he had already been sacked. It was Hierro who was in charge. Wake up. Spain beat Argentina 6-1 under Lopetegui.
f q Lopetegui was sacked 2 days before the World Cup started. Lopetegui was probably Spain’s best manager in almost a decade.
Why are we assuming Ramos was talking about Lopetegui? Maybe he was aiming his words at potential incomings, like Conte.
I had initially thought it was meant for Conte
Or any future manager
I think these fuck knuckles have miss read this whole thing. When you are a captain you have to be on the manager's side because if you turn against him that would make things worse. Once the manager leaves you can have your own opinion and he voiced it. Every Madrid player tried to defend Lopetegui, it obviously wasn't genuine you could see that on the pitch.
Shit speaking Ramos will leave football in full disgrace.. mark my words... And if it is for Conte... Conte is much greater human n coach than this ego bully father fucking shit piece Ramos
What are these Barca fans doing here 😁😁😁
Mind your Catalan business. I just want Guti to come and stop living under the shadows of the first Galacticos.
Guti should be the next coach
Certainly not the coach to blame .Ramos ,benzema,are fading away,bale injury prone ...Ronaldo has been pushing this team all a alone for 9yrs ....his individual performances are exceptional ..week in week out...Madrid need to learn how to respect legend ......We will continue to miss you Ronaldo ...All time great....
Lopetegui is another manager of the old school to hit the dust. Mourinho, Lopetegui - they're all showing their outdatedness. There are two schools of managers - the new kind and the old kind. The old kind are the ones who managed Spain, Germany, Argentina and Italy to oblivion. The new breed are Pep, Emery, Sarri and Klopp.
Low is struggling to change his managing and stay in his job. There are signs he is awakening. But his old Germany games are exactly the type of managing that gets you nowhere these days.
I'm not sure Conte is the right manager either. He flopped in his second year at Chelsea. I think he's got one foot in the old school.
These are managers who cannot show imagination when attacking. Their defending isn't so good either.
Plus Courtois is not good as a goalkeeper as everyone thought. I can see why in the Premier League he was not in the top 2 of goalkeepers. He looked good because Chelsea's players sat back a lot of the times. He comes out too forward too early. Same as what Lloris is doing. They do this because they're nervous. They must stay back at the net no matter how threatened they feel. Lloris is too proactive - he's trying to be sweeper-keeper. And Poch has him doing these long balls for goal kicks. These long balls are old-fashioned and statistically proven to result in a high rate of dispossession for the club compared to shorter passes from the goal.
There were signs of improvement in their last game, the one with Barca, but it was a case of too little too late.
I think it's right he be sacked. There is no excuse for losing against smaller clubs lower in the table.
And Benzema should have been replaced instead of the goalkeeper. He is a liability. He cannot get sitters in. He's not a playmaker either. Either you assist, set up plays or shoot goals (or do all three). If you do neither, then you should get out.
He's been underperforming for too long. He coasted by because CR7 was there next to him shooting most of the goals.
He should have stepped up once CR7 was gone. Why should they buy another galactico just to support Benzema and carry the team for him and other non-performers in the club?
Bale showed signs he was not up to snuff in the preseason games. He's probably getting older and losing his touch. Also, he cannot fill CR7's shoes.
CR7 wasn't just a crackshot, he knew how to create plays and get the attack going and do team play.
People just look at his goals and ignore all the other stuff he did. Compare him to Harry Kane. Kane is all but invisible except at the last second when he runs forward to tap it in. (Kane is trying to improve his forward playing but he's not quite there yet.)
CR7 offers much much more. He truly is a wonderful forward wing as well as a great marksman.
Number 9s these days are required to do more than be there to shoot the goal in. Firmino works hard as a defender, not just a shooter/false nine.
He tackles and presses hard as any other player in the team. When have you seen Kane and Benzema do that?
The bad crossing was another factor. I can't tell you how many teams fail in their attack because of the nature of their crosses.
In Real's case, the cross is too LOW. Such a little detail like this can have a big impact on the game.
I saw them do it consistently. One failed cross after another - too low, so easily intercepted by the opposition.
These are the things the coach can change. It's not beyond the ability of the players to give their crosses a bit more lift. He's not asking them to do 30-yard goal shoots while doing a somersault.
I am sure these poor crosses are because Lopetegui hasn't told them to do otherwise. These mistakes he should pick up every game. I don't understand how coaches can go into the next match not seeing these errors and repeating them.
They must examine every failed attack with a microscope. It's their JOB. They are paid 10s of millions to do that.
You play with these errors consistently and you will get consistent losses.
These errors are systemic. They are not the result of a player's individual mistake. And the manager is the one who should be recognizing them and stamping them out.
Somebody call papa Florentino, I think we found Lopetegui's permanent replacement. 👆🏽👏🏽
Very detailed analysis
Get a life
you are nuts, comparing mourinho with lopotagui, or whatever is his name.
Wow, stfu... can't read all that!
It isnt lopetegui's fault. The real madrid players are just arrogant
Ramos: what a captain. My idol😘
When you realise, I'm just being sarcastic 🤦🏽♀️
Your idol is someone that wishes coaches like Conte is cancelled out, shut up
I just realized u r a non sense idle
@PrinceSeth The Conqueror how about Gerard piggue?
Ramos > Pique
@@simbeam at Red cards and nothing else
2:33 for Sergio Ramos comment
You're welcome.
sack florentino perez
Bad experience for both Spain and Real. One can't resist to ponder if Spain could fair better in WC with Lopetigue in charge.
and modric is a balon d or finalist (leader) ffs. such crap
peter ruiz sit the fuck down and look at the world cup
Its supposed to be last year's performance not overall, dumbass.
f q Ballon D’Or is a calendar year competition
ddd mmm The World Cup was only 7 out of like 60 games.
Getting your team to the wc final is a major achievement
Why are they still talking about him getting sacked. They've already made 2 other videos about him. It seems like there milking this thing for views.
Gabriel Marruffo
Well, you’re watching so its working 😁
This is merely a segment from the daily 30 min espnfc show.
It was just a matter of time. Hopefully, Real and the new manager can rebuild and prove Ronaldo was not the sole reason for their success
Key word: 'Hopefully' - from a Barça fan
Of course he wasnt the sole reason, but he scored 450 goals in 438 games for them and was top scorer in the ucl for the past 7 years in a row whilst madrid won 4 of those in the last 5 years.
@@samgeee2968 That is not happening is Modric, Kroos, and Marcelo are not feeding balls to him
Will be really hard to prove
@PrinceSeth The Conqueror
Calm down keyboard warrior
1. Perez need to leave asap
2. All front 3 needed to replace with new signings
3. A new defender also required
4. Coach must be given freedom to sign big players
1- Sure let's forget that the guy helped get 3 CL in a row, they are struggling now. Let's FIRE HIM!!! ... SMH
2- Fans always say that, let me ask you... WHO IS AVAILABLE? Neymar. Hazard. Mbappe. Kane. Etc. NOPE. No elite player is available. So again, who can they have signed?
3- Romas and Varane did a fine job last year, but sure... Let's replace a young player who has been doing well or the captain of the team, who is loved by fans. Great logic.
4. You don't just give freedom to a new manager, every team has a budget. A manager can't just go and buy whoever he wants. Even Pep cant get whoever he wants, and he is at ManC who is filthy rich, yet you think Lopetegi is going to come and select whoever he wants? How many managers actually get the freedom to sign whoever they want? ... I can't think of any.
Your points made sense... until you start thinking.
eh, whatever... la liga is the same boring telenovela with only two main characters, year after year. don't let this news distract you from the fact the corrupt league conspires to make sure that RM and Barca are the richest and most advantaged clubs so that it is virtually impossible for any other club to win much of anything.
needlenosened flanders cant we have atm, or valencia even villareal and sevilla would be watchable
@Yung cash register A.K.A Lil Broomstick i season out of how many???? 88 season La Liga crowned a champion. 58 times it has been RM or Barca. IN the last 25 yrs you know how many times either one of them didn't win it? 5 times. You're welcome. You can sit down now.
@Tim Dev I feel bad that your masculinity is so triggered by a SPANISH word that clearly is relevant here because we're talking about SPANISH TEAMS! You can sit down too, American meathead.
H o n e s t l y
That's why I prefer the epl, at there's 4-5 clubs that fight for a chance at the top
@@nihilisticbarbie Right? It might end up being Man City bc of Pep and the money they spend, but at least for most of the season it appears like they, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Man U, Chelsea could possibly win it. Plus the champions league and europa spots are hotly contested. 99% of the time Barca and RM begin at the top and stay there until the end and no one else is really a serious contender except one off Atletico.
Pochettino won't leave Spurs to get sacked and ruin his reputation, this needs a manager who has been there before, Ancelloti, Mourinho, Zidane.
Buy Neymar please waste 300 million. Lol
😂
waste? their is never too much to spend on the best in the world.
@@imthedaddyq9087 they can't afford best in the world
Neymer is not what they need
Neymar will flop at real madrid. Nobody can fill ronaldo's shoes for at least 5-10yrs!
Remove varane
Let Kaylor Navas play important matches
Improve defence system with new signings
Replace benzema with dybala
Keep Bale bench for a while to lit his potential
Sell marshellano, vinicious Jr, courtois and asensio
Bring Kane, hazard or Mbappe
Most of it all hunt Dybala from Juventus he is gold then problem solved
Ramos ... 👎
did you laughed?
- I did 😂😂😂
Deserved the sack, La Liga is awful tactically speaking
true that
hi suraj
Indians are smart but you’re dumb
LA Liga has the best tactics my friend..... Spanish football is known as the best style of football.. Ok
Epl is farmers league compared to la liga
You sell your best player and don't replace him
Ramos as captain must give 100% support for the manager, at least in public. Expressing public critics would only generate a media sh!t storm. Now that Lopetegui is gone, he's free to express his opinion and what he says is the true. I don't see hypocrisy there.
Some critics could be made to Florentino as he left Cristiano, Morata, James, Pepe and Kovacic go but there are still plenty of good players. If Madrid were #2 or #3 in La Liga it could be understood but the team is #9 and not one player plays well. Lopetegui just isn't managing well for some reasons.
After 14 RM game i now understand clearly why ZZ was keeping bale in bench.
Don't blame Lopetegui. The higher ups are to blame for RM. Let's go back to Ozil, how about Morata was in good form at the time, what about James? Why send Kovacic on loan? I know Courtois is a great keeper but the Costa Rican was already playing excellent as keeper. That is a keeper RM did not need.
-They sold CR (basically eliminating about 50 goals for the season).
-They bought a gk; already had a gk (Navas...is probably top 5 in the world)
-They need to play Asensio, Mariano and Vinicius Jr up front...but they're too fucking stupid to see how good those three would be together.
I have faith in Solari. He's cool and composed.
Gab probably think CR7 was a 'goofy' player for real madrid LOL
Ramos is right, his management of the players was all wrong. Thats what zidane did so well.
@PrinceSeth The Conqueror you are a stupid kid
PrinceSeth The Conqueror penaldo fans triggered while this guy is speaking the truth lol. Real madrid sucks now because zidane leave, not fucking penaldo
I don't quite understand why Benzema is still there. You don't necessarily need to buy the best striker in the world but you also don't have to stick with Benzema either. Aside from the Lewandowski's and the Agueros, there at least 5 players who would score more than him. Mandzukic, Werner, even Balotelli
Buy a half decent attacking forward, it's not rocket science gezzzzzz
I'm happy that Conte is not going to take the charge. To me, he is the only available guy to turn things around at Real at this moment.
I stopped watching Madrid matches despite being a die Hard fan for years ! How could you sell the only player who made the differences in Matches . Made us smile and was always there for us when we needed him! Look at him now in Juve !
Beg to differ. Ramos is wrong. Madrid right now need a manager more with technical prowess than man management. The team has been inferior to Barcelona in the last few years and only because of Cristiano they were winning the Champions Leagues. Cristiano couldn't obviously drag them for a 38 game long league season and hence they were inferior in the league. No one stepped up. No one. Ever.
So, these guys need to take a break, stop acting like they've completed football and cut down on their egos. Specially Ramos.
They needed a manager with more man management skills in the past, when the team had a structure, and the players knew how to play.
Now, they are a complete disgrace. How dare Ramos keep such an ego still is comical. Pique has won more than him at Barcelona.
So, player power has blocked Conte's path?
Real Madrid this season is proof the addition or release of one player is not about one position but chemistry and heart is much more important for a TEAM
The fallacy in the counter argument about Lopetegui being able to control them as the Spain manager is that some of the foreign players felt that he favors Spanish players over foreign players
Also, Courtois has been abismal
But they don't have Ronaldo therefore they aren't good enough!
The Panelists never even discussed the Ronaldo factor which to me is the major factor at play here. When you sell arguably best player in the world and the player the team was built around for almost a decade abruptly, even the best coach in the world will suffer the consequences for a while or maybe a long while before the team stabilizes. Too bad Lopetegui was the scapegoat here.
This is what you get for ditching your countries team for a club.
Eden Hazard is a very happy and positive person. Moving to Real Madrid would be terrible for personal reasons and it would hinder his legacy. Hope he makes the smart choice and stays away from that toxic dump.
The decision to sack him was before clasico
Guti is the one who knows players and is comfortable with them. Real need someone who has been with them for a while.. Like Zidane was assistant with Ancelotti so he know the players and players trust him.
Guti seems like a guy who has good relationship with players but yes coming to a big stage like managing Real is never easy.
WAiT so you sell a guy that scores like 50 goals a season, but you dont bring anyone back to replace him?