Thanks Brian for the Video. I'm a 55 yrs old black who has been playing videos since I was 12 yrs old. I have to say I'm so sick & tired of people especially games trying to put thier "antiwoke or woke" prespective on game. I play a game to enjoy it. I play a rpg to get immersed in the story & the characters, I play a video game to relax, to wine-down, to have fun. I dont care if the main is a person of color; i dont care of the main character is LGBT, I dont care of the main character is a female...all I care about is enjoying the game for my experience. I dont have time for everyone especially gamers calling a game WOKE or Anit-WOKE. I dont let my political views interfere with my gaming or watching movies. When I play a game or watch certian movies, I dont wonder if this game is woke or not, if this movie or tv show is woke or not. Either I'm going to enjoy it or I do...its that simple. So far I'm enjoying Dragon Age Veilguard. As a Christian, I may not be thrilled with some demon characters but that doesnt effect my love for the Lord or my experience of playing a game...its a make believe world, with make believe character that focuses on magic, sorcery, elven gods, etc. If a person dont like a game - DONT BUY IT! If they dont like a certain movie or show - DONT WATCH IT! Simply. I would quote a verse from the Bible about people attitude in the Last Days but this not the time nor the place. I just wanted to make my voice heard!
@@dwrdwlsn5No it's not just him it's only liberals that think woke is a good thing imposed on every aspect of life! It's just activism, majority of humans don't want activism in their games, like at all... nonezo! It would be the same if conservatives were constantly pushing religion or anti abortion etc pick your poison it has absolutely nothing to do with the game you're playing to escape your situation!
I don't like playing games with female mcs but that's not because of the wokeism bullshit. It just kills my immersion. They should offer a choice like other games have like Mass Effect or Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Valhalla. I don't care if they are trying to tell a story. That's a crappy excuse.
I’m a writer. I’ve listened to good handful of dialogue… I went in understand not everyone was on board with it. I was like “eh, sure it’s not that bad.” Then found myself cringing like every two words.
this integrity issue isnt just in gaming. its pervasive in basically every professional field run by college grads. im an architect so i see GC's and their crew, plumbers, electricians, masons etc. and there really aren't accountability issues with blue collar fields im in contact with. they make mistakes and fix them when addressed. but i go back to school, the office, i consult with the engineers, the state, bankers, lawyers etc. zero accountability/integrity, its a pervasive cultural issue that does seem to be more of a problem with people on the left. i really cant see a solution because these people dont listen to criticism at all. if you critique what they are doing they try to get you fired or have emotional meltdowns. the string pullers at the top i suppose will need to just lose enough money for them to understand that the kids they are hiring to consult on projects are steering their money into a fire pit.
Ginger, 'woke' is when identity politics are the central and most obvious focus of the game. Veilguard is woke because of Taash and all of the conversation bashing you over the head with gender identity and sexual preference. Contrast that with Parvati in The Outer Worlds. See the difference now? Liara in Mass Effect was bi (her entire race was!) but was that the only memorable or notable thing about her? Leliana in DA:O is another example. Did they spend entire swaths of the party dialogue underlining this in those games? This game was built around this, from the character creator all the way through to the end. They're trying to normalize things that most of the audience will not agree is normal because they don't see it in their everyday lives. The vast majority of the gaming audience believes that there are only two genders but they're willing to live and let live. Trying to disprove that in the most aggressive and obnoxious way possible, is just going to turn the majority of the audience away (as we've seen on multiple occasions). That's where the pushback is coming from. Well, also when they use established and beloved IPs to do it (ain't that right, Saints Row reboot? Can you relate to that, Star Wars?).
I've always described it as when they are preaching a sermon vs telling a story. In theory that could apply to things on the right but lets face it that does not exist in entertainment. I guess they are trying now with the Daily wire but that is just as cringe as the veil guard, just in the opposite political direction.
It's pretty simple. They are marxists. Woke = cultural marxism. It's the revolution of weasel words. At the end of the day it's sociopathsusing empathy to get power.
Yep. Now more and more youtubers are no longer calling woke things woke, being afraid of being labeled "anti-woke", the term invented with negative stigmata with the feel of "incels-lite". They got people confused and start doubting themselves of the term and meaning of "woke", while it has its personal variations, everyone understands its general meaning. Like p0rn, nobody can give a definite definition, but everyone knows when they see one.
Seriously, you think the dialogue is the only issue? What about the map Or the fact that wherever you are, you get tunneled from point a to point b, there's no exploration at all and the terrible art style its not dark fantasy its kiddie halloween the dark spawn look like they should be in scooby doo
I think the reason the writing feels off is that its written for a different game. They rebooted this game twice. I think they kept most of the dialogue and just moved it around instead of re-recording dialogue.
@@krisp4838 The only thing that looks passable imo is the combat, but I am not sure it passable enough for a 40 hour game, it looks like it will get boring in 10.
@@krisp4838 I wasn't going to write an essay on the man's page. I just picked out one thing I hated and then said it was fine and not worth 70 dollars. Relax 🙃
I am getting tired of being called a bigot for having better tastes in games. Also that scene with the they/them makes me feel like I should physically punish myself for using the wrong pronoun? Really?
It doesn't have anything to do with you supposedly having better taste in video games. Maybe you should take another look at your second sentence. Seems like you're gaslighting yourself.
@@Gamebent1so wait, because someone doesn't like the insinuation that you should punish yourself physically because someone got misgendered and sorry doesn't actually mean anything anymore to these radical people, this person has gender issues themselves? Is that what you are saying? 😂 Because if it is you should check yourself before insinuating stuff like that. It's not nice making assumptions.
Bigots won't like this game, well it looks like everyone is a bigot?! These developers are so delusional. This game is specifically designed to groom children in my opinion, it non-stop preaches all the DEI talking points and forces them upon you, there is even one scene where you are forced to acknowledge you are trans regardless of what choice you make.
That mirror scene? Lmao! There is a go back option during that scene.. there’s literally other options to choose from that aren’t forced on you. I chose to acknowledge my grey warden scars 😅. That “forced option” isn’t forced. You can just go “back”. But I agree after playing all DA games by far, it is eye opening seeing so many dialogue options that are.. new if that makes sense lol.
😂 The game is not for children, it is only suitiable for ages 17+. Because homosexuality or transsexuality is innate and only affects a very small minority of people, it is impossible to succumb to the temptation to became like that by seeing such people. Well, in the game itself it only affects one quest line, where the topic comes up, but not in the rest of game.
what DEI talking points? As a 55 yr old black gamer, that's dumb!! It's a game, play it as a game. I dont go looking to see if the game is WOKE or DEI...both are stupid. I enjoy a game for what it is...A GAME!
Rpgs are about immersion and this game really has none for 95% of gamers. Andy pants isnt insane he just sees things through good and evil, he sees the moral fabrics and standards of society lowered so far that he knows people without good intentions are behind driving the narrative.
If you have seen any footage of the scenes everyone is talking about, it's ridiculously cringe and liberal woke. This game will probably and hopefully be a flop, 70k players for lanch is terrible, Black myth wukong has more than that now and it came out months ago by an unknown studio, this is Bioware and EA, it's already a failure.
@@golfRgod is there probably a bit of far left and far-right mess around in games where people just want to grift and people just want to be stupid yes there is is there also a lot more of the far left in my opinion than the far right yes yes there is This is because in my humble opinion for the longest Time entertainment was kind of home to not necessarily the left but liberal minds who were able to be creative who weren't tied down by you have to think this way or you have to think this way because of your God or because of your religion or because of your faith or because this is who you come from or where you come from or something along those lines and I'm not just hitting that Christian conservatives or anything I'm hitting it anybody who is traditional religious to the point of cult mentality There's nothing wrong with having a bit of Faith there's nothing wrong with having a bit of Faith at all I personally am a heathen that's not me virtue signaling or anything that's just me mentioning the path of faith that I walk and everybody is free to do that the difference I feel between people like me and others are there are those who choose a path in life whether that's Christianity Islam Judaism Hinduism Buddhism some form or another of paganism or whatever and then they just locked themselves down in that mindset if you don't think like me then you're evil that's what my gods say that's what my faith says that's what the ancestors say that's what the Great goddess says that's what the All-Seeing mother says or whomever they worship Meanwhile your traditional liberals might have had a path of Faith but they were more open more understanding I feel like kind of more interested in culture more eager to learn They came to life with a mindset of somebody's going to disagree with me but that's okay because they're okay to have their own opinions For a time in my early teenage years eyewitness both sides of this I witnessed my Aunt Chris on the ultra right Christian conservative you have to be godly or else trying to be the moral police and then I witnessed my friend Sam's family who was probably just as religious as my Aunt Chris but they were kind of leftist they were understanding they weren't judgmental of stuff like heavy metal and things like that Sam's favorite bands were Linkin Park and Metallica both bands that were lambasted by the right Sam's older brother Jacob I believe was the one who had the drum set he played drums and his favorite types of music were thrash and speed metal though there's a bit of power metal that walks those lines too so he was probably listening to a little bit of speed power metal there was probably some black and roll there a little bit of black and thrash a little bit of thrash death a little bit of speed thrash probably some traditional 80s heavy metal and no I don't mean hair metal I mean bands like running wild King diamond and mercyful Fate One of those bands has an album known as at the gates of purgatory
I can understand calling people in the extreme ends of this drama. However fence seating is NOT HIGH MORALE POSITION. Some people tend to do this as a way to act pretentious. Sometimes it's absolutely better to take a stand on an issue.
Im a fan of Kinda Funny but their review of this game rubbed me the wrong way. After playing the game awhile Greg Miller says he realized the game isn’t what he thought it was but after changing his expectations he’s was able to have fun.. then gave the game 9/10. Also at one point Andy Cortez says he cried twice during the game but when questioned about it he walks it back saying well you know like my eyes kinda tearing up. I wouldn’t accuse them I shilling for a company but man they just seemed so disingenuous throughout the whole podcast compared to how they usually judge games. Or maybe this one just opened my eyes
@@tony2trill Kinda Funny rightfully should be accused of shilling. It is so blatantly obvious they have been paid off with privileges and promises of access to future EA / BioWare content.
All I want is this, enter a world that is different, not something with modern ideas. I suffer from PTSD, I just want have and forget the war in my head. I was looking forward to getting this game, now its a hard pass.
1:10 Gaming reviews have been sponsored content for over 20 years now. The problem is how much worse it has gotten. Video game journalism today is more marketing than journalism. The failure to recognize their own shortcomings and attack people who are critical of them is only going to be a major weakness going forward. 4:40 While marketing that is focused on interactions is a good thing, this isn't a good thing in the long run. It means people aren't caring about the game or actually looking into actually playing it. Overall, it's going to do significant damage to the brand and the company's reputation. It might not show up right away, but it will show up for the next game. 6:30 I view woke as synonymous with tokenism. You want to put in racial and sexual diversity for the sake of it regardless of if it's relevant or not. 9:00 Dragon Age: The Veilguard is likely going to flatline around 3 million based on most projections. It's likely higher than everything before Inquisition, but it's not good considering how long the game has been in development for. 12:00 My major complaint about when they try identity politics is that it doesn't make sense in the world that they've constructed. If you're going to do identity politics, you have to do it in an environment where the social structure is extremely rigid and that how you introduce yourself matters. When you don't, it feels superficial and forced because no one really cares. This is something they have to learn a time and place for. Persona 4 is probably one of the best examples of this as your teenagers start having to confront their inner darkness and grow to figure what to do after high school.
The combat is passable, at most. Its certainly Not good. But nobody plays a Dragon Age game for the combat. We play it for the writing. The level of immersion Dragon Age games were able to get. And the writing in this game is just complete turd. And I'm ignoring the whole woke shit. It's a TURD even without taking the woke shit into consideration.
Who's "we"? I actually liked Inquisition's combat and Veilguard's combat looks fun. (Haven't bought the game yet but I will eventually) Also, any real DA fan would not complain about "woke" things because BioWare has always been a progressive studio since the start.
@@theobell2002 The "we" means dragon age fans... So yeah that would exclude you naturaly... So can you please stop trying to weasel your way into things?
Steam is also to blame for curating reviews. There is no way only positive reviews are allowed. Noone can proof they are doing this and it is required to do only for short amount of time, like a week, to have big impact on sales. Noone buys bad reviewed games and that is not good for Steam business
Pretty much. Reviews made by people who refunded the game don’t seem to count towards the score. It’s also been dropping slowly since 79%. It was 77% last I checked.
Steam is not a great place to get a good measure of the game, I've seen a couple recommendations that were actually bashing the game and some more saying that they recommend the game only to spite the "chuds". Don't think that it has anything to do with somebody buying positive reviews, it's just how Steam is.
The dialog is unbelievable in this game! I mean imagine how they'd feel if the same characters were in this situation but conservatives made the game and instesd of it being about gender and social awareness it went like this. He got me pregnant...But I don't want to keep the baby! You mean you'd commit the ultimate sin and murder your own baby, one of gods children? What's god? You've never heard of our lord and savior? I mean come on, please tell me how this is any different? This is supposed to be a sci fi game and the reason to start your pc up and login is to escape your situation and you spend your hard earned money and get this kind of experience you can find on any reddit thread!
Man I never buy anything from a AAA studio or company now in 2024s Because I don’t if they are lying or not anymore and the fact that people have a obsession over how woke they are and obsession woke ideology and politics now on the internet and especially on Twitter that it gets tiring over a while now and I don’t use Twitter anymore
The writing of the new dragon age game folks is too much on social justice and not the deep lure that was in the previous three other games … coming from someone who’s protested for Gay marriage I can say that this game focused too much on things The audience doesn’t need to be lectured on.
Dragon, age and mass effect have always had an inclusivity, but had good writing and character development. This game has neither of those. The developers of this game didn’t give you a choice on how you interact with certain members of your party. Instead, they try to use their game as a way to teach and lecture a new younger audience.
They are always using the word bigot to make people feel bad for not agreeing with what they are trying to push. We just want a fantasy game key word fantasy like back in the day when it was about good vs evil not good vs evil and oh your evil if you don't believe what we believe like keep that out of games.
I have been a DA fan from the beginning, when I got Origins for my 360. Even if I want to ignore the preachy identity politics BS of this title, there are other glaring issues. The choice they made to throw out the lore, the bastardization of beloved characters, the total lack of choices in game, the removal of enemies because "they might disturb some people", the list goes on and on. Also, I looked, this game is not #1, it is #3 in sales and doesn't even make the top 25 of games being played. I tried to look further into the SteamDB and it actually just returns an error for this title. So...gonna pass. I play games to escape, I don't play them to get preached at. And this very much looks like a game that I will not enjoy.
Well, take a look at how many people are playing "The Forest" vs how many are playing Veilguard. Then come back and tell me it's a success 😅 I appreciate you trying to straddle the left/right line but man, if you can't understand why people are frustrated at the overt political messaging in their games - and the expectation on the part of developers that we should PAY to be preached to - then I don't know what to tell you
I've played and beaten the previous Dragon Age games, but I can honestly say, I've no intention of playing this game. I play games as a form of escapism, I don't play them to be reminded of how messed up society is. If that makes me a bigot then so be it. There's is no way the Isabela in Dragon Age II would have come out with utter nonsense like that. Bioware is a shell of what it once were. The people that made Knights of the Old Republic,Mass Effect and previous iterations of Dragon Age have moved on.
I want to play this game but: - It's missing the mature dialog, player choice, repercussions from past DA games. - It's missing the ability to become an apostate and delve into Blood Magic, causing people to fear and/or hate you for using said forbidden magic like in DA:Origins/Awakening. - It's missing the ability to directly swap/control party members. I cannot pay full price for a DA game that is missing such crucial Dragon Age iconic features. I will either wait on a massive sale, buy it used on PS5, or torrent on PC. I cannot support how bare bones this game is after waiting so many years for another DA game. It's insane.
The game is beyond woke so im never buying it. I have an autistic child i dont have time to waste on trash games and my time is to important for company that dont respect it.
"if your not woke then your a bigot and you wont like this inclusive game" isnt the meaning of the word bigot someone who is hypocritical? if the game was really inclusive wouldnt that include people of different world veiws? doesnt sound very "inclusive".
Telling us that the game is top seller when nothing else has come out recently is not really a flex for a new game. As other comments have said, the Forest has just as many players playing the game right now. Look at the Monster Hunter Wilds beta test, it has over 430,000 players on the first day. As of right now DAV is second on top selling and MHW a game in beta and only for preorder is fifth on the list.
Wokeness it’s just a result of poor writing and the bad story development A characters, race, religion, sexual orientation, and gender doesn’t matter unless it pertains to story development.
This woke idealism in gaming is beyond ridiculous. It has been for many years now, and game companies need to get off that woke high horse of theirs! Otherwise, we'll be seeing that now catchy phrase in a content creator's video title: "XYZ Game Studio went woke then went broke!"
I will not purchase a game where a significant portion of decisions are made by people who have various colored hair, noserings, a variety of performative expressions in any number of bios or are otherwise obvious activists, and take mental health days for mild disagreements. It is not the representation, it is who is writing it. We need a new word for that.
The both sides stuff just ends up lurching further and further in the weirdo lefty direction. Thats how it always goes. This game is trash, but complaining about it won’t change it. They churn out this garbage because they took over the game studios and corporate boards. Don’t like it? Yeah, boycott, but more importantly make media that isn’t trash to counter the tide.
Gotta be honest, they're winning. Slowly, and now, though slower, but still winning. Every year they gained another inch, every year there's a new game that'll break the woke level higher, making people automatically think the last year level is the new normal. Another 4 years, and half of the games will have pronouns in char gen and we'll be accepting it as part of gaming life.
@@theobell2002 a few years ago I saw entertainment moving towards being more niche, and that was great, to each their own, but eventually they have to try to make everything for everyone, they can't help themselves, I've already pretty much given up on Hollywood for both movies and series, having this idea that every story has to look like today's world, it taking gaming as well is the terrifying part...
You're a fence sitter. You're an enabler. "Woke" is people imposing their real-life worldview into fantasy. Sales don't matter if people are taught to buy slop. Transformers: Age of Extinction was a middle of the road movie in terms of reviews but made over a billion dollars. Wide release films mean everyone goes to see the movie rather than wait for reviews. Just like the review culling for veilguard. They want you to pay first and ask questions later. The industry doesn't have the talent to have subtly or nuance. The previous games had woke elements but also anti woke elements. One of those two things is no longer allowed. Guess which one, that is. Most people agree in general with what are considered left or left leaning ideals. How can they fail if people generally agree? They are lying to us, and equity and inclusion are not what they've wanted. That's the Trojan Horse. What they want is control over behavior to support their lifestyle. Hetero men do this in resisting ugly women in games because thats their lifestyle looking at pretty ladies in entertainment media. That's what the left wants, ubiquitos approval and normality. That a trans woman with blue hair and a beard would be held as beautiful as Alison Sweeney. The problem being that only one is a reflection of biological reality. The other is a "social construct."
I played and the game itself ir okey but the dialogue is weak considering it's game where u should care a lot about characters it kinda feels meh, only cared about 2 characters since they came from dragon age inquisition, otherwise grafics are good combat okey as well. Map design could be better like in inquisition where u could see all maps here it's like mess and u see zones when u are in them so at the end u kinda don't if previous zones u cleared or not.
Yeah it seems strange to say people are bigots if they dont like woke shit. Dragon Age Veilguard is a cutesy Marvel movie compared to previous titles, particularly Origins.
After eight hours of staring at spreadsheets and pretending to care about "synergy," the last thing I need is my elf rogue telling me I'm a bad person for not recycling my used arrows. Just let me have some mindless fun, dammit! Explosions, loot, maybe a sassy talking sword - that's all I ask. Leave the moralizing to my HR department. 😜
Following the trend 😂 Like Concord and Unknown 9? That trend? Is that the trend you're referring to where "the right" cried wolf but the games still sold great? Anyone that calls normal people that don't want trash from creeps on their games, "far-right" has gulped that cool-aid and asked for more. These studios will be shut down FOREVER, and gaming will go on.
Yep lost me at "calling a whole group of people garbage". If you support trump you are garbage for the simple reason that you cheered when the comedian that had his "jokes" vetted and put on the teleprompter called Puerto Ricans garbage.
This game is mid. The end. I was listening to Colin's podcast after he left kinda' douche and he made a great point. Mafa 3 was woke as hell. No one bitched about it cause the writing was really good.
I loved his take, he broke it down very well I miss when my hobby was free of the CW crap. But it’s pretty clear who brought this war here and I am just tired of this shit.
Usually when people don't complain about "wokeness" in a good game, it means 2 things. Either it went over their heads or they stay quiet because it would disprove their little "go woke go broke" mantra.
I can understand the frustration with this whole culture war thing, it does seem like people on both sides of it don't actually know how or why it began. it actually goes back to the 1920's, when the school of thought first started in the US, the latest iteration came about back in 1995.
why i don't play veilguard, when i have play every DA before? simple, it's not a Dragon Age. dragon age is a game with dark gritty universe.... where you have children have them soul sell for learn a magic (origin), a mage organizing a revolt in a city turning this in a mess (DA2)....where every decision you make have an impact. where romance is present, but not soo much important. where character have true developement.... and are not here for lecture us player... we did learn to love and hate character in the previous game because they not here as a symbole.... but as person. dragon age is a rpg first and action second.... in this case, you want to have a solid story, with engaging character and a lore that is respected.... and nothing in veilguard is this. the lore is not respected, magic in dragon age are something extremely dangerous. the previous game was making sure our decision in the previous had impact, but here 6 decision of inquisition is all that count, DA origin and DA 2 don't count.... what is bad for a serie that was all about this. we can say too that the political view of the developper is...more apparent. and it feel wrong.... we can say it's woke, and in a sense yes, it's woke and the whole problem is not being woke, it's how toxic it is for the game and player....we don't have the feeling to be player that enjoy a world, we are lectured by the game on how we must adress people. but that not how it work in world. respect is in the two way, you can't ask people to respect your choice without respect them choice. comprise is important, we must learn to live with each other, not impose our view and sadly the woke culture impose everything and if you don't go in them sense you are the enemy.... what feel wrong in too many way. in the end i refuse to play a game that use a serie i love... for advance a narrative while not even trying to be good... for me it's insulting the legacy of dragon age.
It starts with the pronouns, then the antifa simulator That was called dustborn. And now this game where there’s conversations about being non-binary and shit like that obviously kids are gonna be playing this. This is grooming.
This game, by itself, without the previous DA games is fine. Nothing new or industry defining. Its a modern game. However, when you put it up against any of the previous DA games, its the worst of them all. Game titles should get better or at least, stay the same, with time. Sadly, this isn't the only IP that is getting worse with time.
it's ok to use the word "woke". It is definable and useful to describe what is happening. Don't meekly mention it while proclaiming neutrality. "Be strong and be honest" indeed.
Modern use of "woke" is more used as a way to describe someone who pushes their rela life ideology into saud product. That's what you need to use Prime. Lono could learn that as well
I'll need a mod that cuts the entire "Barve" scene with Isabella to the apology part. Isabella preaches about "making it all about themselves" and makes the entire scene all about herself and her "apology".
New World had a transgendered character in the game and it was classy. It was obvious and her dialogue was straight to a point. Lots of games make this such a focal point it can be a turn off for people.
Yeah, I'd even argue that gamers for the most part, really don't care, but when you start "bible thumping" them over the head with whatever the message is, welp, all bets are off.
@ sometimes less is more. Like the woman in new world said she just wants the world to see her how she sees herself. I’m like okay I can understand that, but if consistently brought up it becomes just noise.
Solid take(as expected bro). The term woke is definitely overused, to the point when it's applicable, it comes off as not to be taken seriously, and on the flip side, Kind of Funny mass labeling people that don't like the game is a very current President move. 🤦♂️
It’s not about left or right, it’s about being a decent human being and treating your fellow specie with respect and dignity. These people obviously don’t know what that means. You are right I am tired and I don’t consider myself woke, whatever that means…lol like you said
Did not buy the horse armor. And did not buy Starfield and did not buy this trojan horse of a game for I like my house free of blue haired men who think they are women. You know what would be great > To remake DA Origins in this engine, leaving everything else untouched.
I think the story behind Veilguard is they rebooted the game from a live service to a single player but EA didn't give them money for a complete reboot so they had to compromise on certain things to fit the budget. There are scenes where you can tell the action beats and conversations between two characters came from two separate games. Like, why do I get happy dialogue outside your door but when I go to your room, you are crying. Things like that keep happening which tells me, you just stuck two games together and didn't have the budget to build proper transition scenes but you couldn't cut either scene because they relate to future scenes. Also, some of those maps are live service mow down enemy maps. Cause there are places where design says an enemy appears but no enemy appears.
Top seller on steam? The freakin DEMO for monster hunter has like 3 times the players... Thats right a DEMO with maybe a hour or 2 of content is out preforming your "top seller" on steam... Give me a break...
This game could have had BG3 levels of success in a perfect world where Bioware wasn't bought out by EA. BG3 showed that you can be inclusive without breaking immersion or making it feel forced, just don't shove it in players' faces. But the biggest thing is that BG3 is actually a good game, DA:V is stitched together from a cancelled mobile game project and does nothing to respect the legacy of the first Dragon Age made by the long gone OG Baldur's Gate team at Bioware. A year later and BG3 still has 60-70k people playing every day.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but remember that no opinion is more important than the next. Just learn, love, and appreciate each other. Good or bad, life is short and time is a resource we can't get back.
Woke used to basically mean stay educated and aware. Woke was about knowing injustice and striving to overcome it through knowledge. Awaken your mind and not be drawn into the negative temptations of life that would cause one to be held back in said life. It's been taken and flipped to have a negative connotation. It's also used out of context 99% of the time. The word is now tainted.
I'm on the Left and I don't like how things are in Games and other entertainment media. I can't wait for the end of the Age of Contempt. Very few folks in Entertainment media like or even barely tolerate fans. They make a crappy product and use identity politics as a shield. "Um, Sir the dialog here is very cringy." "Away with you, foul incel bigot!" If the game industry has to collapse because gamers don't buy games, well, I won't be crying. I'll play games from my backlog and wait for people in the game industry to wake up.
I thought "gamers" were tired of journalists playing review copies of games. Now they don't get them and suddenly it's a bad thing? The last time reviews were sacred were ps2 era when PSM was still going. The whole Bharv seen is an in-game explanation of something in universe, you don't have to apply it to your life. I agree about not reviewing without having played it. Someone on the steam discussions was saying they noticed a lot of people who didn't have the game were making a big fuss about it there. Veilguard has been climbing in sales still. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy this game, if you don't like it then just ignore it. A lot of shit has been happening with EA between the last dragon age and this one. I'm just surprised they even made a new game especially considering the last two games bioware made was Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem (I don't count the remaster of ME, kinda hard to screw that up anyways). My last thoughts are this, it's a game, with a universe that isn't ours with explanations for their rules not ours. Don't put our world's/universe's logic to theirs. Also, if you don't like the game, you can always play the old ones, which are cheaper to get. I don't agree with "if you don't like the game, you're a bigot." That's a bit over the top, and it's your money spend it on what you want.
I don't care if a game has gay, trance or non-binary characters as far as they are well-crafted. Nor if a character creation includes unfamiliar pronoun options as far as not forced to choose. That's perfectly okay. What I can never stand is being told what to think, what to choose or what not to do by someone behind these lamely made characters or systems. It takes all the fun out of the content. I am really tired all of it.
I totally agree. As I made mentioned when I commented on this video, I'm a 55 yr old black male who has been a gamer since I was 12. I buy & play games for the experience, for the immersion of the story, for the fun...NOT because someone believes the game is WOKE or AnitWOKE.
@@nighthawkylewis5498 Thank you. That's exactly what I wanted to say! Yes, I never want to think of games as WOKE or AntiWOKE. Great games like BG3 are carefully woven, they trust their players and respect the players' freedom. So everything resonates as a whole without discord. These lame games are full of discord and these noise.
I agree. As an example outside of some seeming performance issues (not a 'Woke' problem) I thought Unkown 9 looked pretty decent tbh. Dragon Age however, imo, looks pretty dreadful! Diversiity and Incluson is a great thing (Equality is great but Equity is a DISASTER) and is NOT the problem. The problem is how it is incorporared! That's why we do have some sucessful projects and some disasterous one. One side castigating everything they dont like as 'woke' and the otherside calling ALL criticism 'BIGOTTED' is not only insane and incredibly low IQ but it will also fix nothing!
I was excited for the game, but then the character creator video dropped, and the top surgery scars told me everything I needed to know. That cutscene on misgendering was the final straw. Mental illness is not a gender, so if you're offended, that's your issue and yours alone.
Agree with most of what you said, but BG3 is THE most accurate measuring stick. It's a crpg released relatively recently. DA was the "spiritual successor" to BG 1 and 2 made by the SAME COMPANY. BG3 is made by a different company, but that company is a drastic underdog to BioWare, and known for the same kinds of games. DA:V and BG3 SHOULD have exactly the same customer base and popularity being from the same lineage and genre. Both have extremely inclusive pedegrees and slightly fanatical fandoms. BG3 is pretty much the perfect yardstick for how well DA:V should perform... DA:V should BEAT BG3 being made by the OG studio.
Why? Why should DAV outsell Baldur's Gate 3? Why _should_ those games have the same base? Dragon Age is an Action RPG Arguably since DA 2. Baldur's Gate 3 is is a turn based/RTWP game. Larian isn't some tiny Indie Dev either. Bioware is owned by EA and Larian is owned by Tencent, literally the largest Video game company in human history and one of the largest multinational conglomerates _Period._ D&D is a FAR larger brand than Dragon Age. This seems like just preemptive cope for why a game which THE NARRATIVE said was supposed to crash and burn is still a failure, because for some reason people have invested their personality into " GO WOKE GO BROKE. "
@@Awaken_To_0 You asked a question that I already answered. I have no idea what you want me to say ROFL It should be held up to the same standard because Baldur's Gate was originally BioWare's IP. They made DA:O as the spiritual successor of BG2. DA has always been a CRPG, so of COURSE we're going to judge this game by the same standards. If they wanted a new IP they should have MADE a new IP. ALso, Larian is an AA studio which was still an indie studio when the started working on BG3, BioWare is a freaking titan. If anything it should outperform BG3, rather than barely meeting BG3's CURRENT player count. But, you know I'm pretty sure you don't actually care about any of that. Your 'tone' is pretty damn "I'm right no matter what you say" so I really don't care to get into a battle of inches here. Don't demand an answer if you're not going to ask a real question.
I know the you have Been warn but I was also Warn with Hogwarts. People are either screaming Woke or just Boycott the Game. With Dragon Age it's either it's not Dragon Age Origins or It's Woke. Thanks enjoying it so far you can be over there on whatever side your I on.
As someone whos just a gamer mom a dragon age origins fan and just wants a good game to play in my spare time that i get whenever i get an opportunity when baby is sleeping, i am really disappointed with the dialogue its too tame lol but the fights and stuff were fun and ive gone in without looking at any reviews or gameplays
So i will push back against this centrist argument, "both sides are wrong" claim that i keep seeing. I'm not going to go into as i see some comments on this section have done a really good job of that, Remainen for example. But i am going to point out the increments we're seeing in woke content. For reference i see a large portion of people call BG3 woke, most often people that never played it but also people that loved it. I myself loved bg3, do not consider the game woke, it does have woke stuff in it but the game isn't built around personality politics, you don't have entire questlines written about an npc's sexuality or other parts of their character, UNLIKE dragon age veilguard which has forced interactions with a non binary character about her being trans, you can not skip these quest lines, you can not pick dialogue options that don't affirm her beliefs or otherwise support that ideology, And there's no options in dialogue to even ignore what's being said. Not sure if you seem video clips of Taash the qunari being misgenderd, Isobella apologizing and then doing pushups as penance, then going on about how much better her apology is cuz she demonstrated she "ACTUALLY" cares thru "sweating" a little. Basically it's a sermon being bashed over the players head. Saying how many people that actually apologize and mean it always make it about themselves and so the offended party now has to make the offender feel better. And the player can not come close to disagreeing, instead you pat everyone on the back for it. BG3 however, you can ignore anything that comes close to that stuff. Most of it can be completely missed depending on player choices and your not forced to pick anything you don't want to. But i bring this stuff up because just a year ago we had the internet attacking heelvsbabyface for yelling about pronouns (the clip is taken out of context tho his point remains the same) in the beginning of a game that then "never brings it up again" and many people were thrashing him for overeacting. But here we are. Not only had more games come out with pronouns or canonically gay/trans characters that doesn't make sense, all of them have flopped with many arguing that it's not because of woke, but now we have DA:V taking it a step further. Not only do you pick your pronouns in a medieval game (a qualifier that was used against Az in the starfield thing. "It makes sense in a futuristic setting, it's not like this is happening in Skyrim) you can later affirm your character as trans to affect future unique dialogue and you have the forced interactions with your party that are not skippable. So We're still heading in the direction of more woke stuff in game, ever so slightly but a measured increase. Is there a line where you would say "that's taken things too far" If veilguard hasn't crossed it yet? That's a question for you to ask yourself, not answer for me. And the thing is, writing in veilguard is incredibly linear. There's no real choice in the game except for maybe 2 outside of the ending, which the ending doesn't matter what choices you make thru the game, you can literally save just before the end and then reload to see all the endings. It seems that more attention is paid to having dialogue options change if you say your trans than actual dialogue choices thru the game. I could go on all day but I'll cap my point with why there's a correlation with woke games and them flopping. It's because the writers of these diverse inclusive characters only care that said characters are of this special class. That IS character development to them. You don't get much beyond a caricature because the devs can only write as they believe in everyday life. Its simple for them. If your a special race/sex/preference and so on, that automatically makes them like you. It's literally all they care about. So they don't feel the need to flesh out a character beyond "she's a gay black girl"
you cannot compare DAI to DAVG on steam DB as the game did not launch on steam when it originally released 10 years ago it was only available on EA Origin
Hate woke and antiwoke people, the game is beautiful, graphics are cool, story is captivating, many endings. It is dragon age, always have been inclusive, the difference is that people are more extreme than 10 years ago. Review bombing is pathetic, people do that with FIFA (FC) every year and are still buying the game every year. 70 k people playing a 70 dollars single player game is fantastic, Jedi Survivor didn't reach it. It is only on steam. Veilguard will sell something between 5 and six mill and that is a fact. Or did you forget the heavy criticism on last of us part II?
I have to critique your undertones of making this seem like an even split of "woke vs non-woke". That's not whats happening, the overwhelming majority of people find this stuff weird. A small amount of people like it and a small amount of people are saying everythings woke. Please don't lump in the majority of people who are getting sick of this stuff with the loud minority of people calling everything woke.
I have bought and played Origins, 2 and Inquisition on PS3, PC and PS4/5 That's multiple purchases of the same products including DLCs over various platforms. That's hundreds of hours of gameplay over all these platforms. I know Dragon Age and why I love the series. Then this Veilguard turd comes along and I am no longer entitled to have an opinion on this new installment from what I've seen? 10 years of anticipation down the drain and these petty hacktivists dare say 'if you haven't played it you have no say on this'? What? I have paid Bioware more than enough to be entitled to say Veilguard is trash written by childish adults with intellects of 8 year olds? What am I a homophobe? I'm a dude who's with another dude for 25 years of which 14 married. You could say I am the target audience. But I despise the product and the creatures that wrote this bile. And I bet I am not the only homosexual (target audience) that is infuriated by what they have done to a longtime favorite franchise. DEI is fascism. What bioware and EA did to people around this release is fascism. It's time we start branding their actions with the right naming of said actions. It is fascism. 10 years of anticipation for this... What the F... This is pretty sad. Good thing this year has also granted us gems like Shadow of the Erdtree, Stellar Blade, BlackMythWukong, SpaceMarine2, Vessel of Hatred, Darksiders 2 remasterremasterremastered😂 (Darksiders is cool so I will support it for the what? 5th time 😅), Horizon Remastered, Empire of the Ants... Enough 'new' fun to experience. Veilguard is a sad attrocity 🥲
Thanks Brian for the Video.
I'm a 55 yrs old black who has been playing videos since I was 12 yrs old. I have to say I'm so sick & tired of people especially games trying to put thier "antiwoke or woke" prespective on game. I play a game to enjoy it. I play a rpg to get immersed in the story & the characters, I play a video game to relax, to wine-down, to have fun. I dont care if the main is a person of color; i dont care of the main character is LGBT, I dont care of the main character is a female...all I care about is enjoying the game for my experience. I dont have time for everyone especially gamers calling a game WOKE or Anit-WOKE. I dont let my political views interfere with my gaming or watching movies. When I play a game or watch certian movies, I dont wonder if this game is woke or not, if this movie or tv show is woke or not. Either I'm going to enjoy it or I do...its that simple. So far I'm enjoying Dragon Age Veilguard. As a Christian, I may not be thrilled with some demon characters but that doesnt effect my love for the Lord or my experience of playing a game...its a make believe world, with make believe character that focuses on magic, sorcery, elven gods, etc.
If a person dont like a game - DONT BUY IT! If they dont like a certain movie or show - DONT WATCH IT! Simply.
I would quote a verse from the Bible about people attitude in the Last Days but this not the time nor the place. I just wanted to make my voice heard!
You can always drop me Bible quotes my dude. I welcome them. And thanks for this epic comment, well stated
anti woke means normal
@@BenFoster-cx4em for you.
@@dwrdwlsn5No it's not just him it's only liberals that think woke is a good thing imposed on every aspect of life! It's just activism, majority of humans don't want activism in their games, like at all... nonezo! It would be the same if conservatives were constantly pushing religion or anti abortion etc pick your poison it has absolutely nothing to do with the game you're playing to escape your situation!
I don't like playing games with female mcs but that's not because of the wokeism bullshit. It just kills my immersion. They should offer a choice like other games have like Mass Effect or Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Valhalla. I don't care if they are trying to tell a story. That's a crappy excuse.
I’m a writer. I’ve listened to good handful of dialogue… I went in understand not everyone was on board with it. I was like “eh, sure it’s not that bad.” Then found myself cringing like every two words.
this integrity issue isnt just in gaming. its pervasive in basically every professional field run by college grads. im an architect so i see GC's and their crew, plumbers, electricians, masons etc. and there really aren't accountability issues with blue collar fields im in contact with. they make mistakes and fix them when addressed.
but i go back to school, the office, i consult with the engineers, the state, bankers, lawyers etc. zero accountability/integrity, its a pervasive cultural issue that does seem to be more of a problem with people on the left.
i really cant see a solution because these people dont listen to criticism at all. if you critique what they are doing they try to get you fired or have emotional meltdowns. the string pullers at the top i suppose will need to just lose enough money for them to understand that the kids they are hiring to consult on projects are steering their money into a fire pit.
Ginger, 'woke' is when identity politics are the central and most obvious focus of the game. Veilguard is woke because of Taash and all of the conversation bashing you over the head with gender identity and sexual preference. Contrast that with Parvati in The Outer Worlds. See the difference now? Liara in Mass Effect was bi (her entire race was!) but was that the only memorable or notable thing about her? Leliana in DA:O is another example. Did they spend entire swaths of the party dialogue underlining this in those games? This game was built around this, from the character creator all the way through to the end. They're trying to normalize things that most of the audience will not agree is normal because they don't see it in their everyday lives. The vast majority of the gaming audience believes that there are only two genders but they're willing to live and let live. Trying to disprove that in the most aggressive and obnoxious way possible, is just going to turn the majority of the audience away (as we've seen on multiple occasions). That's where the pushback is coming from. Well, also when they use established and beloved IPs to do it (ain't that right, Saints Row reboot? Can you relate to that, Star Wars?).
I've always described it as when they are preaching a sermon vs telling a story. In theory that could apply to things on the right but lets face it that does not exist in entertainment. I guess they are trying now with the Daily wire but that is just as cringe as the veil guard, just in the opposite political direction.
Shut up, homophobic racist... You say this and didn't even played the game, just watched Neonazį creators.
It's pretty simple. They are marxists. Woke = cultural marxism.
It's the revolution of weasel words.
At the end of the day it's sociopathsusing empathy to get power.
@Ahglock the Daily Wire is at least honset about it. They do not hide or try to capture a property and twist it into something else.
Yep. Now more and more youtubers are no longer calling woke things woke, being afraid of being labeled "anti-woke", the term invented with negative stigmata with the feel of "incels-lite". They got people confused and start doubting themselves of the term and meaning of "woke", while it has its personal variations, everyone understands its general meaning. Like p0rn, nobody can give a definite definition, but everyone knows when they see one.
The dialogue is really pissing me off. It's so bad. Comparing it to BG3 is laughable.....other than that, the game is fine but not worth 70 dollars.
I agree i dont like the dialogue
Seriously, you think the dialogue is the only issue? What about the map Or the fact that wherever you are, you get tunneled from point a to point b, there's no exploration at all and the terrible art style its not dark fantasy its kiddie halloween the dark spawn look like they should be in scooby doo
I think the reason the writing feels off is that its written for a different game. They rebooted this game twice. I think they kept most of the dialogue and just moved it around instead of re-recording dialogue.
@@krisp4838 The only thing that looks passable imo is the combat, but I am not sure it passable enough for a 40 hour game, it looks like it will get boring in 10.
@@krisp4838 I wasn't going to write an essay on the man's page. I just picked out one thing I hated and then said it was fine and not worth 70 dollars. Relax 🙃
I am getting tired of being called a bigot for having better tastes in games. Also that scene with the they/them makes me feel like I should physically punish myself for using the wrong pronoun? Really?
i guess that its thew only word what they know
It doesn't have anything to do with you supposedly having better taste in video games. Maybe you should take another look at your second sentence.
Seems like you're gaslighting yourself.
@@Gamebent1Really?
Just embrace the label. It means less and less all the time. You have a normal disgust reaction and pattern recognition, that’s all it amounts to.
@@Gamebent1so wait, because someone doesn't like the insinuation that you should punish yourself physically because someone got misgendered and sorry doesn't actually mean anything anymore to these radical people, this person has gender issues themselves? Is that what you are saying? 😂 Because if it is you should check yourself before insinuating stuff like that. It's not nice making assumptions.
just dont buy that game , dont forget that they hate gamers
gamers equals chuds
im waiting for the media to pull the "the game was not made for you but you NOT buying the game is the sole reason the game failed" eccuse.
Bigots won't like this game, well it looks like everyone is a bigot?! These developers are so delusional. This game is specifically designed to groom children in my opinion, it non-stop preaches all the DEI talking points and forces them upon you, there is even one scene where you are forced to acknowledge you are trans regardless of what choice you make.
@@smellykat6481 😂😂😂😂
That mirror scene? Lmao! There is a go back option during that scene.. there’s literally other options to choose from that aren’t forced on you. I chose to acknowledge my grey warden scars 😅. That “forced option” isn’t forced. You can just go “back”. But I agree after playing all DA games by far, it is eye opening seeing so many dialogue options that are.. new if that makes sense lol.
😂 The game is not for children, it is only suitiable for ages 17+. Because homosexuality or transsexuality is innate and only affects a very small minority of people, it is impossible to succumb to the temptation to became like that by seeing such people. Well, in the game itself it only affects one quest line, where the topic comes up, but not in the rest of game.
I can't tell if people really just failed primary school grade English or they are just trolling
what DEI talking points? As a 55 yr old black gamer, that's dumb!! It's a game, play it as a game. I dont go looking to see if the game is WOKE or DEI...both are stupid. I enjoy a game for what it is...A GAME!
Reviews
Journalists 10/10
RUclipsrs 5-6/10
Gamers 1.9/10
Who’s accurate? Gamers like you and me are the only accurate reviewers.
I’ve heard it said that when the numbers don’t match the anecdotes trust the anecdotes. Gamers have the ultimate say.
Ah yes, accurate reviews such as "game le bad because woke!!"
Amazing!
Rpgs are about immersion and this game really has none for 95% of gamers. Andy pants isnt insane he just sees things through good and evil, he sees the moral fabrics and standards of society lowered so far that he knows people without good intentions are behind driving the narrative.
If you have seen any footage of the scenes everyone is talking about, it's ridiculously cringe and liberal woke. This game will probably and hopefully be a flop, 70k players for lanch is terrible, Black myth wukong has more than that now and it came out months ago by an unknown studio, this is Bioware and EA, it's already a failure.
@@golfRgod is there probably a bit of far left and far-right mess around in games where people just want to grift and people just want to be stupid yes there is is there also a lot more of the far left in my opinion than the far right yes yes there is
This is because in my humble opinion for the longest Time entertainment was kind of home to not necessarily the left but liberal minds who were able to be creative who weren't tied down by you have to think this way or you have to think this way because of your God or because of your religion or because of your faith or because this is who you come from or where you come from or something along those lines and I'm not just hitting that Christian conservatives or anything I'm hitting it anybody who is traditional religious to the point of cult mentality
There's nothing wrong with having a bit of Faith there's nothing wrong with having a bit of Faith at all I personally am a heathen that's not me virtue signaling or anything that's just me mentioning the path of faith that I walk and everybody is free to do that
the difference I feel between people like me and others are there are those who choose a path in life whether that's Christianity Islam Judaism Hinduism Buddhism some form or another of paganism or whatever and then they just locked themselves down in that mindset if you don't think like me then you're evil that's what my gods say that's what my faith says that's what the ancestors say that's what the Great goddess says that's what the All-Seeing mother says or whomever they worship
Meanwhile your traditional liberals might have had a path of Faith but they were more open more understanding I feel like kind of more interested in culture more eager to learn
They came to life with a mindset of somebody's going to disagree with me but that's okay because they're okay to have their own opinions
For a time in my early teenage years eyewitness both sides of this I witnessed my Aunt Chris on the ultra right Christian conservative you have to be godly or else trying to be the moral police
and then I witnessed my friend Sam's family who was probably just as religious as my Aunt Chris but they were kind of leftist they were understanding they weren't judgmental of stuff like heavy metal and things like that
Sam's favorite bands were Linkin Park and Metallica both bands that were lambasted by the right
Sam's older brother Jacob I believe was the one who had the drum set he played drums and his favorite types of music were thrash and speed metal though there's a bit of power metal that walks those lines too so he was probably listening to a little bit of speed power metal there was probably some black and roll there a little bit of black and thrash a little bit of thrash death a little bit of speed thrash probably some traditional 80s heavy metal and no I don't mean hair metal I mean bands like running wild King diamond and mercyful Fate
One of those bands has an album known as at the gates of purgatory
It's already dropped all rh way to 26th place
@@codyrich3094 As WH40K said: An open mind is like a fortress with its gates open.
I can understand calling people in the extreme ends of this drama. However fence seating is NOT HIGH MORALE POSITION. Some people tend to do this as a way to act pretentious. Sometimes it's absolutely better to take a stand on an issue.
Im a fan of Kinda Funny but their review of this game rubbed me the wrong way. After playing the game awhile Greg Miller says he realized the game isn’t what he thought it was but after changing his expectations he’s was able to have fun.. then gave the game 9/10. Also at one point Andy Cortez says he cried twice during the game but when questioned about it he walks it back saying well you know like my eyes kinda tearing up. I wouldn’t accuse them I shilling for a company but man they just seemed so disingenuous throughout the whole podcast compared to how they usually judge games. Or maybe this one just opened my eyes
@@tony2trill Kinda Funny rightfully should be accused of shilling. It is so blatantly obvious they have been paid off with privileges and promises of access to future EA / BioWare content.
All I want is this, enter a world that is different, not something with modern ideas. I suffer from PTSD, I just want have and forget the war in my head. I was looking forward to getting this game, now its a hard pass.
1:10 Gaming reviews have been sponsored content for over 20 years now. The problem is how much worse it has gotten. Video game journalism today is more marketing than journalism. The failure to recognize their own shortcomings and attack people who are critical of them is only going to be a major weakness going forward.
4:40 While marketing that is focused on interactions is a good thing, this isn't a good thing in the long run. It means people aren't caring about the game or actually looking into actually playing it. Overall, it's going to do significant damage to the brand and the company's reputation. It might not show up right away, but it will show up for the next game.
6:30 I view woke as synonymous with tokenism. You want to put in racial and sexual diversity for the sake of it regardless of if it's relevant or not.
9:00 Dragon Age: The Veilguard is likely going to flatline around 3 million based on most projections. It's likely higher than everything before Inquisition, but it's not good considering how long the game has been in development for.
12:00 My major complaint about when they try identity politics is that it doesn't make sense in the world that they've constructed. If you're going to do identity politics, you have to do it in an environment where the social structure is extremely rigid and that how you introduce yourself matters. When you don't, it feels superficial and forced because no one really cares. This is something they have to learn a time and place for. Persona 4 is probably one of the best examples of this as your teenagers start having to confront their inner darkness and grow to figure what to do after high school.
AAA games - crap
Indies games - fun
Jesus christ, that character did ten pushups for using the wrong pronoun. That is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a fully functioning video game
5 push-ups
the entire thing felt like a humiliation ritual disguised as forgiveness
The combat is passable, at most. Its certainly Not good. But nobody plays a Dragon Age game for the combat. We play it for the writing. The level of immersion Dragon Age games were able to get. And the writing in this game is just complete turd. And I'm ignoring the whole woke shit. It's a TURD even without taking the woke shit into consideration.
Who's "we"?
I actually liked Inquisition's combat and Veilguard's combat looks fun. (Haven't bought the game yet but I will eventually)
Also, any real DA fan would not complain about "woke" things because BioWare has always been a progressive studio since the start.
@@theobell2002 The "we" means dragon age fans...
So yeah that would exclude you naturaly...
So can you please stop trying to weasel your way into things?
DA:I is not the best comparison since it did not initially release on steam. The 12 mil was on EA's storefront and consoles.
HA! this game is GHEY
Steam is also to blame for curating reviews. There is no way only positive reviews are allowed. Noone can proof they are doing this and it is required to do only for short amount of time, like a week, to have big impact on sales. Noone buys bad reviewed games and that is not good for Steam business
Pretty much. Reviews made by people who refunded the game don’t seem to count towards the score. It’s also been dropping slowly since 79%. It was 77% last I checked.
Steam is not a great place to get a good measure of the game, I've seen a couple recommendations that were actually bashing the game and some more saying that they recommend the game only to spite the "chuds".
Don't think that it has anything to do with somebody buying positive reviews, it's just how Steam is.
Nobody needs to define woke. We already know what it means. The people that don’t, don’t even want to learn. It’s bloody 2024, give me a break.
The dialog is unbelievable in this game! I mean imagine how they'd feel if the same characters were in this situation but conservatives made the game and instesd of it being about gender and social awareness it went like this. He got me pregnant...But I don't want to keep the baby! You mean you'd commit the ultimate sin and murder your own baby, one of gods children? What's god? You've never heard of our lord and savior? I mean come on, please tell me how this is any different? This is supposed to be a sci fi game and the reason to start your pc up and login is to escape your situation and you spend your hard earned money and get this kind of experience you can find on any reddit thread!
Man I never buy anything from a AAA studio or company now in 2024s
Because I don’t if they are lying or not anymore and the fact that people have a obsession over how woke they are and obsession woke ideology and politics now on the internet and especially on Twitter that it gets tiring over a while now and I don’t use Twitter anymore
The writing of the new dragon age game folks is too much on social justice and not the deep lure that was in the previous three other games … coming from someone who’s protested for Gay marriage I can say that this game focused too much on things The audience doesn’t need to be lectured on.
Dragon, age and mass effect have always had an inclusivity, but had good writing and character development. This game has neither of those. The developers of this game didn’t give you a choice on how you interact with certain members of your party. Instead, they try to use their game as a way to teach and lecture a new younger audience.
They are always using the word bigot to make people feel bad for not agreeing with what they are trying to push. We just want a fantasy game key word fantasy like back in the day when it was about good vs evil not good vs evil and oh your evil if you don't believe what we believe like keep that out of games.
I have been a DA fan from the beginning, when I got Origins for my 360. Even if I want to ignore the preachy identity politics BS of this title, there are other glaring issues. The choice they made to throw out the lore, the bastardization of beloved characters, the total lack of choices in game, the removal of enemies because "they might disturb some people", the list goes on and on. Also, I looked, this game is not #1, it is #3 in sales and doesn't even make the top 25 of games being played. I tried to look further into the SteamDB and it actually just returns an error for this title. So...gonna pass. I play games to escape, I don't play them to get preached at. And this very much looks like a game that I will not enjoy.
Look how much free "marketing" Dustborn got. Controversy doesn't translate into sales
Not everytime. The game has to deliver and depending on what you are looking for this game did or didn’t
Well, take a look at how many people are playing "The Forest" vs how many are playing Veilguard. Then come back and tell me it's a success 😅 I appreciate you trying to straddle the left/right line but man, if you can't understand why people are frustrated at the overt political messaging in their games - and the expectation on the part of developers that we should PAY to be preached to - then I don't know what to tell you
I've played and beaten the previous Dragon Age games, but I can honestly say, I've no intention of playing this game. I play games as a form of escapism, I don't play them to be reminded of how messed up society is. If that makes me a bigot then so be it. There's is no way the Isabela in Dragon Age II would have come out with utter nonsense like that. Bioware is a shell of what it once were. The people that made Knights of the Old Republic,Mass Effect and previous iterations of Dragon Age have moved on.
"I play video games to forget minorities exist."
Well, sorry to say but I guess you need to find a new hobby.
I want to play this game but:
- It's missing the mature dialog, player choice, repercussions from past DA games.
- It's missing the ability to become an apostate and delve into Blood Magic, causing people to fear and/or hate you for using said forbidden magic like in DA:Origins/Awakening.
- It's missing the ability to directly swap/control party members.
I cannot pay full price for a DA game that is missing such crucial Dragon Age iconic features. I will either wait on a massive sale, buy it used on PS5, or torrent on PC. I cannot support how bare bones this game is after waiting so many years for another DA game. It's insane.
The game is beyond woke so im never buying it. I have an autistic child i dont have time to waste on trash games and my time is to important for company that dont respect it.
Isabella's preaching is more than enough evidence that this game is woke propaganda and why it should fail if we want a healthier game industry.
"if your not woke then your a bigot and you wont like this inclusive game" isnt the meaning of the word bigot someone who is hypocritical? if the game was really inclusive wouldnt that include people of different world veiws? doesnt sound very "inclusive".
You cannot tolerate intolerant views.
Sorry. It's a neat little thing called the "paradox of intolerance".
Telling us that the game is top seller when nothing else has come out recently is not really a flex for a new game. As other comments have said, the Forest has just as many players playing the game right now. Look at the Monster Hunter Wilds beta test, it has over 430,000 players on the first day. As of right now DAV is second on top selling and MHW a game in beta and only for preorder is fifth on the list.
Wokeness it’s just a result of poor writing and the bad story development
A characters, race, religion, sexual orientation, and gender doesn’t matter unless it pertains to story development.
Such a bummer. Was subscribed and liking your content until I got a glimpse under the hood / can see your intended audience.
This woke idealism in gaming is beyond ridiculous. It has been for many years now, and game companies need to get off that woke high horse of theirs! Otherwise, we'll be seeing that now catchy phrase in a content creator's video title: "XYZ Game Studio went woke then went broke!"
You dont even know what woke means
@@Dave_Langer "Woke" is just a dog whistle to mean minorities.
No we have no cried wolf and the game will not sell well.
I’m all for respecting people, but ten push-ups for calling a chick she is GOOFYY in a dark
Fantasy games 😂😂😂😂😂. Who wrote this 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I will not purchase a game where a significant portion of decisions are made by people who have various colored hair, noserings, a variety of performative expressions in any number of bios or are otherwise obvious activists, and take mental health days for mild disagreements. It is not the representation, it is who is writing it. We need a new word for that.
Dude, 78k on steam is a massive failure.
Dragons dogma 2 hit over 200k.
DA is a much bigger ip.
This will close down bioware.
Good riddance.
Funny enough the BIGGEST criticisms of this game have nothing to do with DEI. And can we replace “woke” with “pandering”.
The both sides stuff just ends up lurching further and further in the weirdo lefty direction. Thats how it always goes. This game is trash, but complaining about it won’t change it. They churn out this garbage because they took over the game studios and corporate boards. Don’t like it? Yeah, boycott, but more importantly make media that isn’t trash to counter the tide.
Gotta be honest, they're winning. Slowly, and now, though slower, but still winning. Every year they gained another inch, every year there's a new game that'll break the woke level higher, making people automatically think the last year level is the new normal. Another 4 years, and half of the games will have pronouns in char gen and we'll be accepting it as part of gaming life.
@@wakaneut That is absolutely terryfing and, unfortunatly, true...
@@adilsoncaetano5684 Pronouns are terrifying to you? Geez, I thought "woke" people were the snowflakes here.
@@theobell2002 a few years ago I saw entertainment moving towards being more niche, and that was great, to each their own, but eventually they have to try to make everything for everyone, they can't help themselves, I've already pretty much given up on Hollywood for both movies and series, having this idea that every story has to look like today's world, it taking gaming as well is the terrifying part...
You're a fence sitter. You're an enabler.
"Woke" is people imposing their real-life worldview into fantasy. Sales don't matter if people are taught to buy slop.
Transformers: Age of Extinction was a middle of the road movie in terms of reviews but made over a billion dollars. Wide release films mean everyone goes to see the movie rather than wait for reviews. Just like the review culling for veilguard. They want you to pay first and ask questions later.
The industry doesn't have the talent to have subtly or nuance.
The previous games had woke elements but also anti woke elements. One of those two things is no longer allowed. Guess which one, that is. Most people agree in general with what are considered left or left leaning ideals.
How can they fail if people generally agree? They are lying to us, and equity and inclusion are not what they've wanted. That's the Trojan Horse. What they want is control over behavior to support their lifestyle. Hetero men do this in resisting ugly women in games because thats their lifestyle looking at pretty ladies in entertainment media. That's what the left wants, ubiquitos approval and normality. That a trans woman with blue hair and a beard would be held as beautiful as Alison Sweeney. The problem being that only one is a reflection of biological reality. The other is a "social construct."
They cant even get the form of a push up correct during the preaching lol.
they will correct u and say ummm because its a barve!
@@lethaldj13 haha you are probably right XD. It is their lived experience afterall which trumps facts these days apparently.
I played and the game itself ir okey but the dialogue is weak considering it's game where u should care a lot about characters it kinda feels meh, only cared about 2 characters since they came from dragon age inquisition, otherwise grafics are good combat okey as well. Map design could be better like in inquisition where u could see all maps here it's like mess and u see zones when u are in them so at the end u kinda don't if previous zones u cleared or not.
Yeah it seems strange to say people are bigots if they dont like woke shit. Dragon Age Veilguard is a cutesy Marvel movie compared to previous titles, particularly Origins.
They are. Because "woke" is just a dog whistle to mean minorities.
After eight hours of staring at spreadsheets and pretending to care about "synergy," the last thing I need is my elf rogue telling me I'm a bad person for not recycling my used arrows. Just let me have some mindless fun, dammit! Explosions, loot, maybe a sassy talking sword - that's all I ask. Leave the moralizing to my HR department. 😜
Amen to that!
Following the trend 😂
Like Concord and Unknown 9? That trend? Is that the trend you're referring to where "the right" cried wolf but the games still sold great?
Anyone that calls normal people that don't want trash from creeps on their games, "far-right" has gulped that cool-aid and asked for more.
These studios will be shut down FOREVER, and gaming will go on.
Truth. We just want good games...not slop preaching ideologies at us.
DEI = DOA
BioWare is the Next Studio to be put down by EA.
Yep lost me at "calling a whole group of people garbage". If you support trump you are garbage for the simple reason that you cheered when the comedian that had his "jokes" vetted and put on the teleprompter called Puerto Ricans garbage.
This game is mid. The end. I was listening to Colin's podcast after he left kinda' douche and he made a great point. Mafa 3 was woke as hell. No one bitched about it cause the writing was really good.
I loved his take, he broke it down very well I miss when my hobby was free of the CW crap. But it’s pretty clear who brought this war here and I am just tired of this shit.
@@Trace153Yeah and the ones who brought it will never admit it.
Usually when people don't complain about "wokeness" in a good game, it means 2 things. Either it went over their heads or they stay quiet because it would disprove their little "go woke go broke" mantra.
I can understand the frustration with this whole culture war thing, it does seem like people on both sides of it don't actually know how or why it began. it actually goes back to the 1920's, when the school of thought first started in the US, the latest iteration came about back in 1995.
why i don't play veilguard, when i have play every DA before?
simple, it's not a Dragon Age. dragon age is a game with dark gritty universe.... where you have children have them soul sell for learn a magic (origin), a mage organizing a revolt in a city turning this in a mess (DA2)....where every decision you make have an impact. where romance is present, but not soo much important. where character have true developement.... and are not here for lecture us player... we did learn to love and hate character in the previous game because they not here as a symbole.... but as person.
dragon age is a rpg first and action second.... in this case, you want to have a solid story, with engaging character and a lore that is respected.... and nothing in veilguard is this. the lore is not respected, magic in dragon age are something extremely dangerous. the previous game was making sure our decision in the previous had impact, but here 6 decision of inquisition is all that count, DA origin and DA 2 don't count.... what is bad for a serie that was all about this.
we can say too that the political view of the developper is...more apparent. and it feel wrong.... we can say it's woke, and in a sense yes, it's woke and the whole problem is not being woke, it's how toxic it is for the game and player....we don't have the feeling to be player that enjoy a world, we are lectured by the game on how we must adress people. but that not how it work in world.
respect is in the two way, you can't ask people to respect your choice without respect them choice. comprise is important, we must learn to live with each other, not impose our view and sadly the woke culture impose everything and if you don't go in them sense you are the enemy.... what feel wrong in too many way.
in the end i refuse to play a game that use a serie i love... for advance a narrative while not even trying to be good... for me it's insulting the legacy of dragon age.
It starts with the pronouns, then the antifa simulator That was called dustborn. And now this game where there’s conversations about being non-binary and shit like that obviously kids are gonna be playing this. This is grooming.
Sir, the game is rated M for Mature.
This game, by itself, without the previous DA games is fine. Nothing new or industry defining. Its a modern game. However, when you put it up against any of the previous DA games, its the worst of them all. Game titles should get better or at least, stay the same, with time. Sadly, this isn't the only IP that is getting worse with time.
By far worst video ever doesn't explain anything about the game and why people are or are not playing
Thanks for the support regardless
it's ok to use the word "woke". It is definable and useful to describe what is happening. Don't meekly mention it while proclaiming neutrality. "Be strong and be honest" indeed.
I’m tired of being proselytized to by content creators and being told what to believe by them. Their audiences sure love to be pandered to.
Modern use of "woke" is more used as a way to describe someone who pushes their rela life ideology into saud product. That's what you need to use Prime. Lono could learn that as well
I'll need a mod that cuts the entire "Barve" scene with Isabella to the apology part. Isabella preaches about "making it all about themselves" and makes the entire scene all about herself and her "apology".
New World had a transgendered character in the game and it was classy. It was obvious and her dialogue was straight to a point. Lots of games make this such a focal point it can be a turn off for people.
Yeah, I'd even argue that gamers for the most part, really don't care, but when you start "bible thumping" them over the head with whatever the message is, welp, all bets are off.
@ sometimes less is more. Like the woman in new world said she just wants the world to see her how she sees herself. I’m like okay I can understand that, but if consistently brought up it becomes just noise.
Solid take(as expected bro). The term woke is definitely overused, to the point when it's applicable, it comes off as not to be taken seriously, and on the flip side, Kind of Funny mass labeling people that don't like the game is a very current President move. 🤦♂️
It’s not about left or right, it’s about being a decent human being and treating your fellow specie with respect and dignity. These people obviously don’t know what that means. You are right I am tired and I don’t consider myself woke, whatever that means…lol like you said
Did not buy the horse armor. And did not buy Starfield and did not buy this trojan horse of a game for I like my house free of blue haired men who think they are women.
You know what would be great > To remake DA Origins in this engine, leaving everything else untouched.
Isabella appears in game, now where is HAWKE? Well no were to be found because the fact my Hawk romanced her is not taken into account.
I think the story behind Veilguard is they rebooted the game from a live service to a single player but EA didn't give them money for a complete reboot so they had to compromise on certain things to fit the budget.
There are scenes where you can tell the action beats and conversations between two characters came from two separate games. Like, why do I get happy dialogue outside your door but when I go to your room, you are crying. Things like that keep happening which tells me, you just stuck two games together and didn't have the budget to build proper transition scenes but you couldn't cut either scene because they relate to future scenes.
Also, some of those maps are live service mow down enemy maps. Cause there are places where design says an enemy appears but no enemy appears.
Top seller on steam?
The freakin DEMO for monster hunter has like 3 times the players...
Thats right a DEMO with maybe a hour or 2 of content is out preforming your "top seller" on steam...
Give me a break...
“If you don’t like it, don’t buy it”
-some EA exec probably
Well its the truth. I dont see anyone forced to buy games or movies.
This game could have had BG3 levels of success in a perfect world where Bioware wasn't bought out by EA. BG3 showed that you can be inclusive without breaking immersion or making it feel forced, just don't shove it in players' faces. But the biggest thing is that BG3 is actually a good game, DA:V is stitched together from a cancelled mobile game project and does nothing to respect the legacy of the first Dragon Age made by the long gone OG Baldur's Gate team at Bioware. A year later and BG3 still has 60-70k people playing every day.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but remember that no opinion is more important than the next. Just learn, love, and appreciate each other. Good or bad, life is short and time is a resource we can't get back.
Woke used to basically mean stay educated and aware. Woke was about knowing injustice and striving to overcome it through knowledge. Awaken your mind and not be drawn into the negative temptations of life that would cause one to be held back in said life. It's been taken and flipped to have a negative connotation. It's also used out of context 99% of the time. The word is now tainted.
I'm on the Left and I don't like how things are in Games and other entertainment media.
I can't wait for the end of the Age of Contempt.
Very few folks in Entertainment media like or even barely tolerate fans.
They make a crappy product and use identity politics as a shield.
"Um, Sir the dialog here is very cringy."
"Away with you, foul incel bigot!"
If the game industry has to collapse because gamers don't buy games, well, I won't be crying.
I'll play games from my backlog and wait for people in the game industry to wake up.
I thought "gamers" were tired of journalists playing review copies of games. Now they don't get them and suddenly it's a bad thing? The last time reviews were sacred were ps2 era when PSM was still going. The whole Bharv seen is an in-game explanation of something in universe, you don't have to apply it to your life. I agree about not reviewing without having played it. Someone on the steam discussions was saying they noticed a lot of people who didn't have the game were making a big fuss about it there. Veilguard has been climbing in sales still.
Nobody is forcing anybody to buy this game, if you don't like it then just ignore it. A lot of shit has been happening with EA between the last dragon age and this one. I'm just surprised they even made a new game especially considering the last two games bioware made was Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem (I don't count the remaster of ME, kinda hard to screw that up anyways).
My last thoughts are this, it's a game, with a universe that isn't ours with explanations for their rules not ours. Don't put our world's/universe's logic to theirs. Also, if you don't like the game, you can always play the old ones, which are cheaper to get. I don't agree with "if you don't like the game, you're a bigot." That's a bit over the top, and it's your money spend it on what you want.
I don't care if a game has gay, trance or non-binary characters as far as they are well-crafted. Nor if a character creation includes unfamiliar pronoun options as far as not forced to choose. That's perfectly okay. What I can never stand is being told what to think, what to choose or what not to do by someone behind these lamely made characters or systems. It takes all the fun out of the content. I am really tired all of it.
I totally agree. As I made mentioned when I commented on this video, I'm a 55 yr old black male who has been a gamer since I was 12. I buy & play games for the experience, for the immersion of the story, for the fun...NOT because someone believes the game is WOKE or AnitWOKE.
@@nighthawkylewis5498 Thank you. That's exactly what I wanted to say! Yes, I never want to think of games as WOKE or AntiWOKE. Great games like BG3 are carefully woven, they trust their players and respect the players' freedom. So everything resonates as a whole without discord. These lame games are full of discord and these noise.
I agree. As an example outside of some seeming performance issues (not a 'Woke' problem) I thought Unkown 9 looked pretty decent tbh. Dragon Age however, imo, looks pretty dreadful! Diversiity and Incluson is a great thing (Equality is great but Equity is a DISASTER) and is NOT the problem. The problem is how it is incorporared! That's why we do have some sucessful projects and some disasterous one. One side castigating everything they dont like as 'woke' and the otherside calling ALL criticism 'BIGOTTED' is not only insane and incredibly low IQ but it will also fix nothing!
Yes it should be titled Dragon Age the Mental Asylum.
1:12
These guys are why most gamers hate games “journalism”.
They call themselves journalists, but the vast majority calls them clowns and shills.
I think they'll find our wallets will be staying shut until morale improves lol
I was excited for the game, but then the character creator video dropped, and the top surgery scars told me everything I needed to know. That cutscene on misgendering was the final straw. Mental illness is not a gender, so if you're offended, that's your issue and yours alone.
Im tired of getting certain things in games but it seems they strip out all the fun. Nothing hateful was said RUclips
Agree with most of what you said, but BG3 is THE most accurate measuring stick. It's a crpg released relatively recently. DA was the "spiritual successor" to BG 1 and 2 made by the SAME COMPANY. BG3 is made by a different company, but that company is a drastic underdog to BioWare, and known for the same kinds of games. DA:V and BG3 SHOULD have exactly the same customer base and popularity being from the same lineage and genre. Both have extremely inclusive pedegrees and slightly fanatical fandoms. BG3 is pretty much the perfect yardstick for how well DA:V should perform... DA:V should BEAT BG3 being made by the OG studio.
Why? Why should DAV outsell Baldur's Gate 3? Why _should_ those games have the same base? Dragon Age is an Action RPG Arguably since DA 2. Baldur's Gate 3 is is a turn based/RTWP game. Larian isn't some tiny Indie Dev either. Bioware is owned by EA and Larian is owned by Tencent, literally the largest Video game company in human history and one of the largest multinational conglomerates _Period._
D&D is a FAR larger brand than Dragon Age.
This seems like just preemptive cope for why a game which THE NARRATIVE said was supposed to crash and burn is still a failure, because for some reason people have invested their personality into " GO WOKE GO BROKE. "
@Awaken_To_0 I literally said why in my first comment LoL 😅
@@noctoi Which I rebutted in my comment.
If you don't actually have an answer then say so.
@@Awaken_To_0 You asked a question that I already answered. I have no idea what you want me to say ROFL
It should be held up to the same standard because Baldur's Gate was originally BioWare's IP. They made DA:O as the spiritual successor of BG2. DA has always been a CRPG, so of COURSE we're going to judge this game by the same standards. If they wanted a new IP they should have MADE a new IP.
ALso, Larian is an AA studio which was still an indie studio when the started working on BG3, BioWare is a freaking titan. If anything it should outperform BG3, rather than barely meeting BG3's CURRENT player count.
But, you know I'm pretty sure you don't actually care about any of that. Your 'tone' is pretty damn "I'm right no matter what you say" so I really don't care to get into a battle of inches here. Don't demand an answer if you're not going to ask a real question.
I know the you have Been warn but I was also Warn with Hogwarts. People are either screaming Woke or just Boycott the Game. With Dragon Age it's either it's not Dragon Age Origins or It's Woke. Thanks enjoying it so far you can be over there on whatever side your I on.
As someone whos just a gamer mom a dragon age origins fan and just wants a good game to play in my spare time that i get whenever i get an opportunity when baby is sleeping, i am really disappointed with the dialogue its too tame lol but the fights and stuff were fun and ive gone in without looking at any reviews or gameplays
Vote with your wallets. Don't buy this game!
inquisition came to steam 5 years after launch tough
Exactly my point.
this is a 'video game' made by activists that don't play video games made for people who won't support or play the game...simple as that
Did you know that if you let Taash die in the end you get automatically locked out of the good ending?
Is that true of all companions or just Taash? Because the gender stuff aside i just don't like how abrasive they are as a character.
Who gets to decide what is the "good ending"?
I dont care if it pushes evil.
Im having fun.
Hey kids, your really a girl not a boy.
Modern Christians.
So i will push back against this centrist argument, "both sides are wrong" claim that i keep seeing. I'm not going to go into as i see some comments on this section have done a really good job of that, Remainen for example. But i am going to point out the increments we're seeing in woke content. For reference i see a large portion of people call BG3 woke, most often people that never played it but also people that loved it. I myself loved bg3, do not consider the game woke, it does have woke stuff in it but the game isn't built around personality politics, you don't have entire questlines written about an npc's sexuality or other parts of their character, UNLIKE dragon age veilguard which has forced interactions with a non binary character about her being trans, you can not skip these quest lines, you can not pick dialogue options that don't affirm her beliefs or otherwise support that ideology, And there's no options in dialogue to even ignore what's being said. Not sure if you seem video clips of Taash the qunari being misgenderd, Isobella apologizing and then doing pushups as penance, then going on about how much better her apology is cuz she demonstrated she "ACTUALLY" cares thru "sweating" a little. Basically it's a sermon being bashed over the players head. Saying how many people that actually apologize and mean it always make it about themselves and so the offended party now has to make the offender feel better. And the player can not come close to disagreeing, instead you pat everyone on the back for it.
BG3 however, you can ignore anything that comes close to that stuff. Most of it can be completely missed depending on player choices and your not forced to pick anything you don't want to. But i bring this stuff up because just a year ago we had the internet attacking heelvsbabyface for yelling about pronouns (the clip is taken out of context tho his point remains the same) in the beginning of a game that then "never brings it up again" and many people were thrashing him for overeacting. But here we are. Not only had more games come out with pronouns or canonically gay/trans characters that doesn't make sense, all of them have flopped with many arguing that it's not because of woke, but now we have DA:V taking it a step further. Not only do you pick your pronouns in a medieval game (a qualifier that was used against Az in the starfield thing. "It makes sense in a futuristic setting, it's not like this is happening in Skyrim) you can later affirm your character as trans to affect future unique dialogue and you have the forced interactions with your party that are not skippable. So We're still heading in the direction of more woke stuff in game, ever so slightly but a measured increase. Is there a line where you would say "that's taken things too far" If veilguard hasn't crossed it yet? That's a question for you to ask yourself, not answer for me.
And the thing is, writing in veilguard is incredibly linear. There's no real choice in the game except for maybe 2 outside of the ending, which the ending doesn't matter what choices you make thru the game, you can literally save just before the end and then reload to see all the endings. It seems that more attention is paid to having dialogue options change if you say your trans than actual dialogue choices thru the game. I could go on all day but I'll cap my point with why there's a correlation with woke games and them flopping. It's because the writers of these diverse inclusive characters only care that said characters are of this special class. That IS character development to them. You don't get much beyond a caricature because the devs can only write as they believe in everyday life. Its simple for them. If your a special race/sex/preference and so on, that automatically makes them like you. It's literally all they care about. So they don't feel the need to flesh out a character beyond "she's a gay black girl"
you cannot compare DAI to DAVG on steam DB as the game did not launch on steam when it originally released 10 years ago it was only available on EA Origin
Thanks for the video, and the extra at the end.
The end of this vid is good. Nice way to end it.
Hate woke and antiwoke people, the game is beautiful, graphics are cool, story is captivating, many endings. It is dragon age, always have been inclusive, the difference is that people are more extreme than 10 years ago. Review bombing is pathetic, people do that with FIFA (FC) every year and are still buying the game every year. 70 k people playing a 70 dollars single player game is fantastic, Jedi Survivor didn't reach it. It is only on steam. Veilguard will sell something between 5 and six mill and that is a fact. Or did you forget the heavy criticism on last of us part II?
I have to critique your undertones of making this seem like an even split of "woke vs non-woke". That's not whats happening, the overwhelming majority of people find this stuff weird. A small amount of people like it and a small amount of people are saying everythings woke. Please don't lump in the majority of people who are getting sick of this stuff with the loud minority of people calling everything woke.
Gamers are tired of washed up annoying commentary RUclipsrs clogging up their search results when they’re just trying to see something about the game.
I don’t think they’re tired of RUclipsrs just yet, more tired of being lied to by certain ones though for sure.
I have bought and played Origins, 2 and Inquisition on PS3, PC and PS4/5
That's multiple purchases of the same products including DLCs over various platforms.
That's hundreds of hours of gameplay over all these platforms.
I know Dragon Age and why I love the series.
Then this Veilguard turd comes along and I am no longer entitled to have an opinion on this new installment from what I've seen?
10 years of anticipation down the drain and these petty hacktivists dare say 'if you haven't played it you have no say on this'?
What? I have paid Bioware more than enough to be entitled to say Veilguard is trash written by childish adults with intellects of 8 year olds?
What am I a homophobe?
I'm a dude who's with another dude for 25 years of which 14 married. You could say I am the target audience. But I despise the product and the creatures that wrote this bile.
And I bet I am not the only homosexual (target audience) that is infuriated by what they have done to a longtime favorite franchise.
DEI is fascism.
What bioware and EA did to people around this release is fascism.
It's time we start branding their actions with the right naming of said actions. It is fascism.
10 years of anticipation for this...
What the F...
This is pretty sad.
Good thing this year has also granted us gems like Shadow of the Erdtree, Stellar Blade, BlackMythWukong, SpaceMarine2, Vessel of Hatred, Darksiders 2 remasterremasterremastered😂 (Darksiders is cool so I will support it for the what? 5th time 😅), Horizon Remastered, Empire of the Ants...
Enough 'new' fun to experience.
Veilguard is a sad attrocity 🥲