I ended up having to learn a bunch about colour theory when my mum asked me to paint her a splendid fairy wren. Like why there’s no blue pigment as bright or vibrant as their feathers, and how you can uses a darker background to make a blue subject appear more vivid. This video is incredibly good at explaining a good amount of what it took me days to understand.
@@neolordie That's not quite accurate. Red and blue aren't secondary, they are just skewed versions of cyan and magenta. Red, blue and green are the primary colors in light though.
I’m no artist, but you explained the concept of chroma loss and colour mixture in such an easily understood way! Colour is so interesting, and this video was the perfect mixture of engaging and informative :D
In my high school art class, we were provided with the warm and cool versions of red, blue, and yellow, and we were able to make any colour (including cyan and magenta!) without getting too muddy! It was a pretty good system for mixing colours, but I never hear anyone talk about it for some reason? You basically have six primary colours (plus black and white) rather than three.
This is why I really like the Android games I Love Hue and I Love Hue Too. They are scrambled colour puzzles and I am always amazed at how colours can appear different depending on their neighbours.
One of the basic skills required to do my current painting gig is to be able to mix and precisely match a large spectrum of colors colors out of a palette of 7. Also this is soft gloss exterior latex housepaint, which causes extra troubles. This is the first video I've seen from this channel, but I have great hopes that it will be instrumental in preventing further hairl loss and eventual insanity. Big big thanks
this is really facinating! you explained colour theory in a way i've never heard before your explaination of the subtractive mixing answered so many of my questions. thanks for the awsome video!
This is all news to me, but completely relatable, as I have often frustratedly mixed colors that ended up surprisingly dull/greyish. Also I have no idea why YT send me here, but I appreciate knowledge learned. I could easily watch you talk 20 minutes in this particular subject. In fact, I suggest you do. I will be subscribing to your channel with hopes of this.
oh gosh, I might never use this knowledge as I barely use any paint, but I loved learning about it! even if I don't remember the specifics of it later when needed, at least I know there is a method to it and I'll search it
I like how you use a real color wheel and not the mess they teach students. Primary colors for ink are CMYK, not Red, Yellow, and Blue. And yes it turns grey because of how it reflects more light for the rods in our eyes than for the cones since the mixed color does stimulate all cones (light receptors in our eyes) And it also can turn black because it is not letting light be bounced, but actually it is trapping more light in the pigments.
With watercolors it's very simple: mix two warm colors, or two cold colors together they'll look good. If you mix a warm and a cold together you'll get muddy.
Wow, underrated video. Very powerful and very concise. I’m in an online art community and the leader keeps posting his half completed color charts with these long introspective rambles 🙄 this video was so direct and informative in such a short format. If you have any more tidbits to share on color mixing would love to hear more!
this is why you're my favorite color theorist on youtube hehe. I feel like my color mixes improved dramatically when I started visualizing the color "wheel" more like a reuleaux triangle, where the 3 points are the 3 primaries, and distance from the center represents vibrancy. I feel like it gives a better visual explanation why a mix like ultramarine blue and cadmium red doesn't give as vibrant a purple as say phthalo blue and quin magenta.
The best Cyan for CMYK is Cobalt Teal Bluish, I've found. Gives great greens and its high chroma lighter shade and opacity synergizes with Quin Magenta's High chroma transparency to form a surprisingly chromatic purple. The best and deepest purple made with Quin. Magenta, however, is with Ultramarine Blue Red Shade; which follows the A-B curve in the video.
@Drezrale Pb17, a discontinued pigment? OH has a PB16. Carribean Turquoise, i think it's called. If a thalo is your primary mixing blue, cobalt teal still has some utility as a blue for lightening other blues with reduced or zero white paint needed since it's in the mid-value range.
@@SnkobArts PB16 is very different than pb17. I use cobalt teal(PG50) a lot myself but the issues with quality control from BASF have been awful in recent years as they keep throwing orange pigment into it to "tone it down"
@Drezrale That's bizarre about the orange pigment; why would they adulterate it like that? I've been using the turquoise version of the pb28, which is about Value 4-5 in darkness. I make my own paints. Seems like there's a bit more info about PB16 than PB17, the subsequent being unrated by ASTM, but rated excellent in independent tests... so what's the difference? They are both blue greens.
@@SnkobArts It's actually not that bizarre with the orange pigment when you figure out that pigments are not made for artists but they're made for industrial applications and artists are just a afterthought because there's such a small market segment. The biggest market segment is generally speaking automotive so a lot of pigments are controlled by them and their demands, followed by house painting and other types of things of that nature and they don't care about the purity of a single pigment. I think sad tuna might have swatches of both PB16 and PB17, I know dirty blue still sells PB17. PB16 is much darker and more rich of a color while PB17 is much lighter and more towards the blue spectrum, It's also for a phthalo 17 has actually a shockingly low tint strength, It's still really high but it's not as high as most of the other ones and it's much more manageable. I think currently the only one that doesn't have a ridiculous tint is 15:4 but that's also kind of hard to find outside of printer ink and higher end paint companies.
Cuz that's sadly how it always works. I can't tell you how many women I know who were vital to scientific research only to have their names omitted from the study.
Hello, I am an artist getting in colour theory and have been using your channel and Dr David Briggs’ website to understand the different aspects of colour but I really am not getting saturation. I found a diagram by Dr Briggs showing how colours of the same chroma can have varying saturation but I don’t understand ‘what’ is/are the changing factors. Is it just brightness? Is just the colourfulness? Both at the same time? From diagram it just seems that white was added to create the less saturated colour from the most saturated colour. I would be so grateful if perhaps you could do an extended video on saturation or if anyone in the comments with a good understanding explain it in a way that’s more simple to understand.
I love this video so much! It makes so much sense, and it’s so useful!! I want to look up that color wheel you have now to see if I can buy one to have just for reference, lol. I know so much about color theory when it comes to light and digital color palettes, but when it comes to color mixing in real life I get confused. Everything you said felt like it was lining things up into neat little rows in my brain for me :)
So now the question is...where can we purchase the Moriarty Color Wheel? I've only found one store that carries it and they have been sold out for a long time. Merv passed away in 2021 so I wonder if they are even in production anymore.
It has to do with a) The way spectral absorption and scattering profiles of pigments interact when you mix them and b) the sensitivities of the different cone cells in the eye. A good topic for a follow-up video
so cool!!! (i mostly draw digitally but will be thinking about that chart / have never seen one of those.) + the other parts of the video apply to me less but were also nifty
Still trying to get my head around the "both subtractive & additive" concept 🤪. Would love to get my hands on that Moriarty wheel; is ordering from Australia the only option?
I have 2 do not cross lines roughly reddish magenta and ultramarine. Pigments that reflect red and blue, but not all the colours in between are a band filter, whereas most other pigments are either high pass or low pass filters. If I need a purple, I'll start with a purple pigment.
Does anybody have a download of the video by Doug Weaver? I had saved it because of his technical explanations behind the interactions. I would like to have it to reference because the theory/technical aspect was a bit more in depth.
It's very interesting to me, but I was kinda lost mid way....could you make a longer video explaining this? And put a link to where to buy this colour wheel I need this...❤
3:05 It’s interesting that this plot places magenta opposite green rather than the more traditional red. It makes sense to me because PV19 and PR122 mix blacks with PG36 and sometimes PG7. Different brands will give you different results, hence my bundling of PV19 with PR122 and PG7 with PG36. I am aware of the difference between all of these pigments.
This is cool, but if you understand color theory the wheel isn't necessary. If you mix a cool red like magenta with a warm blue like thyalo, you're going to get a muddy color. You have to keep warm with warm, cool with cool.
How accurately does the camera capture colours? Was the camera calibrated? What colourspace was used to record the video? Was that maintained when it was uploaded to RUclips? Is your display calibrated? How accurate is your display without calibration? Colour is a complex matter, whether physically or digitally.
It seems like this color wheel is based loosely on Munsell color system. Albiet, a more user friendly colorwheel than the munsell, for sure. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munsell_color_system It's worth noting that it goes deeper, because the full visual isn't 2d, it's 3d. The shape, roughly, is like a spinning top, with the darkest colors at the botttom tip, the lightest at the top, and the mid shades being from the core (gray) to the outer rim (highest chroma reds, blues, purples, oranges, etc).
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the tip about transparent vs opaque pigments tending to mix toward black and grey respectively just absolutely blew my entire damn mind!
I ended up having to learn a bunch about colour theory when my mum asked me to paint her a splendid fairy wren. Like why there’s no blue pigment as bright or vibrant as their feathers, and how you can uses a darker background to make a blue subject appear more vivid. This video is incredibly good at explaining a good amount of what it took me days to understand.
Woah , visual artists also have a "circle of fifths" of their art!
First artist I've ever seen talk about colour wheels without pretending that RBY are the primary colours
Aren't cyan, magenta and yellow the primary pigment colours?
Wait they aren't?
Yes @@99temporal
@@smailydudethe primary are magenta cyan and yellow, red blue and green are secondary, it's the inverse on computer since it's using lights
@@neolordie That's not quite accurate. Red and blue aren't secondary, they are just skewed versions of cyan and magenta. Red, blue and green are the primary colors in light though.
I’m no artist, but you explained the concept of chroma loss and colour mixture in such an easily understood way! Colour is so interesting, and this video was the perfect mixture of engaging and informative :D
In my high school art class, we were provided with the warm and cool versions of red, blue, and yellow, and we were able to make any colour (including cyan and magenta!) without getting too muddy! It was a pretty good system for mixing colours, but I never hear anyone talk about it for some reason? You basically have six primary colours (plus black and white) rather than three.
That's when it really gets fun putting colors next to each other.
This is why I really like the Android games I Love Hue and I Love Hue Too. They are scrambled colour puzzles and I am always amazed at how colours can appear different depending on their neighbours.
@@fredericapanon207 optical illusions. Using science to trick our brains.
One of the basic skills required to do my current painting gig is to be able to mix and precisely match a large spectrum of colors colors out of a palette of 7. Also this is soft gloss exterior latex housepaint, which causes extra troubles. This is the first video I've seen from this channel, but I have great hopes that it will be instrumental in preventing further hairl loss and eventual insanity. Big big thanks
OMG I want that wheel
This is something I learned intuitivly on my own, but I'm so glad someone explained it.
Brilliant info thank you.
When I saw your channel name, I felt like an orphan who has found a home.😊
this is really facinating! you explained colour theory in a way i've never heard before
your explaination of the subtractive mixing answered so many of my questions. thanks for the awsome video!
This is all news to me, but completely relatable, as I have often frustratedly mixed colors that ended up surprisingly dull/greyish. Also I have no idea why YT send me here, but I appreciate knowledge learned. I could easily watch you talk 20 minutes in this particular subject. In fact, I suggest you do. I will be subscribing to your channel with hopes of this.
This is a masterclass of color mixing! Thank you so much!!!
Fascinating! You've put your finger something I've experienced & used in painting and made it crystal clear. Bravo!
I don't even draw or paint by this was fascinating.
That was very instructive 👏 Now I just have to find a way to get my hands on one of those wheels 🤔
Me too! It looks like it would actually be useful. 😂
There’s a whole world of Color nerdery within the field of woven textiles!
First time viewer here.
Your username does not over-promise.
I had no idea this rabbit hole even existed, and now I feel like I'm half way down!
Finally, someone explaining colour in a way that makes sense to me!!
oh gosh, I might never use this knowledge as I barely use any paint, but I loved learning about it!
even if I don't remember the specifics of it later when needed, at least I know there is a method to it and I'll search it
I like how you use a real color wheel and not the mess they teach students. Primary colors for ink are CMYK, not Red, Yellow, and Blue.
And yes it turns grey because of how it reflects more light for the rods in our eyes than for the cones since the mixed color does stimulate all cones (light receptors in our eyes)
And it also can turn black because it is not letting light be bounced, but actually it is trapping more light in the pigments.
Fantastic explanation! Thank you for all your color work. It has helped me move from Bruce MacEvoy’s material to my own palette.
Handprint.com is seriously the color theory gateway drug
This is the missing behind learning color. You are a gem!
With watercolors it's very simple: mix two warm colors, or two cold colors together they'll look good. If you mix a warm and a cold together you'll get muddy.
Wow, underrated video. Very powerful and very concise.
I’m in an online art community and the leader keeps posting his half completed color charts with these long introspective rambles 🙄 this video was so direct and informative in such a short format. If you have any more tidbits to share on color mixing would love to hear more!
Oh this is exactly the kind of stuff I’m into. Consider me subscribed.
Thank you. It will be useful. Hope I can find one of those color wheels.
I love your videos, I've watched all of them multiple times. You explain things so well and are very articulate. Your knowledge is incredible.
this is why you're my favorite color theorist on youtube hehe. I feel like my color mixes improved dramatically when I started visualizing the color "wheel" more like a reuleaux triangle, where the 3 points are the 3 primaries, and distance from the center represents vibrancy. I feel like it gives a better visual explanation why a mix like ultramarine blue and cadmium red doesn't give as vibrant a purple as say phthalo blue and quin magenta.
This is extremely valuable, thank you!
The best Cyan for CMYK is Cobalt Teal Bluish, I've found. Gives great greens and its high chroma lighter shade and opacity synergizes with Quin Magenta's High chroma transparency to form a surprisingly chromatic purple. The best and deepest purple made with Quin. Magenta, however, is with Ultramarine Blue Red Shade; which follows the A-B curve in the video.
The best cyan is PB17... Never forget what they took from us
@Drezrale Pb17, a discontinued pigment? OH has a PB16. Carribean Turquoise, i think it's called. If a thalo is your primary mixing blue, cobalt teal still has some utility as a blue for lightening other blues with reduced or zero white paint needed since it's in the mid-value range.
@@SnkobArts PB16 is very different than pb17.
I use cobalt teal(PG50) a lot myself but the issues with quality control from BASF have been awful in recent years as they keep throwing orange pigment into it to "tone it down"
@Drezrale That's bizarre about the orange pigment; why would they adulterate it like that? I've been using the turquoise version of the pb28, which is about Value 4-5 in darkness. I make my own paints.
Seems like there's a bit more info about PB16 than PB17, the subsequent being unrated by ASTM, but rated excellent in independent tests... so what's the difference? They are both blue greens.
@@SnkobArts It's actually not that bizarre with the orange pigment when you figure out that pigments are not made for artists but they're made for industrial applications and artists are just a afterthought because there's such a small market segment. The biggest market segment is generally speaking automotive so a lot of pigments are controlled by them and their demands, followed by house painting and other types of things of that nature and they don't care about the purity of a single pigment.
I think sad tuna might have swatches of both PB16 and PB17, I know dirty blue still sells PB17.
PB16 is much darker and more rich of a color while PB17 is much lighter and more towards the blue spectrum, It's also for a phthalo 17 has actually a shockingly low tint strength, It's still really high but it's not as high as most of the other ones and it's much more manageable. I think currently the only one that doesn't have a ridiculous tint is 15:4 but that's also kind of hard to find outside of printer ink and higher end paint companies.
Whoa. Subscribed!
Why is it named "Moriarty" when they worked on it together?
Cuz that's sadly how it always works. I can't tell you how many women I know who were vital to scientific research only to have their names omitted from the study.
this is such a good lecture
Hello, I am an artist getting in colour theory and have been using your channel and Dr David Briggs’ website to understand the different aspects of colour but I really am not getting saturation. I found a diagram by Dr Briggs showing how colours of the same chroma can have varying saturation but I don’t understand ‘what’ is/are the changing factors. Is it just brightness? Is just the colourfulness? Both at the same time? From diagram it just seems that white was added to create the less saturated colour from the most saturated colour.
I would be so grateful if perhaps you could do an extended video on saturation or if anyone in the comments with a good understanding explain it in a way that’s more simple to understand.
I love this video so much! It makes so much sense, and it’s so useful!! I want to look up that color wheel you have now to see if I can buy one to have just for reference, lol. I know so much about color theory when it comes to light and digital color palettes, but when it comes to color mixing in real life I get confused. Everything you said felt like it was lining things up into neat little rows in my brain for me :)
Search on google “Moriarty color wheel buy” and you might be able to find it. I’m looking now and the seem to be sold out in a lot of places.
Woah
So now the question is...where can we purchase the Moriarty Color Wheel? I've only found one store that carries it and they have been sold out for a long time. Merv passed away in 2021 so I wonder if they are even in production anymore.
...so what happens when you mix one opaque with one transparent?
Fascinating!
what's the physical reasoning for those boundary lines?
It has to do with a) The way spectral absorption and scattering profiles of pigments interact when you mix them and b) the sensitivities of the different cone cells in the eye. A good topic for a follow-up video
@@ColorNerd1what about the colors that dont cross that line i.e the ones with triangle to the letter j in 0:57
so cool!!! (i mostly draw digitally but will be thinking about that chart / have never seen one of those.) + the other parts of the video apply to me less but were also nifty
Gosh, love it! 🧡🙌
Very insightful!
Still trying to get my head around the "both subtractive & additive" concept 🤪. Would love to get my hands on that Moriarty wheel; is ordering from Australia the only option?
As far as I know, yes
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It would help more if you mixed paints to demonstrate what you are discussing :)
he did
I have 2 do not cross lines roughly reddish magenta and ultramarine. Pigments that reflect red and blue, but not all the colours in between are a band filter, whereas most other pigments are either high pass or low pass filters. If I need a purple, I'll start with a purple pigment.
Right now, color is beating my ass. I'm learning too much theory and not actually color mixing rn and actually doing the work.
Does anybody have a download of the video by Doug Weaver? I had saved it because of his technical explanations behind the interactions. I would like to have it to reference because the theory/technical aspect was a bit more in depth.
He did upload a new version with less spice
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It's very interesting to me, but I was kinda lost mid way....could you make a longer video explaining this? And put a link to where to buy this colour wheel I need this...❤
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So how did Merv Moriarty select the boundary lines? Do we know the research that went into their selection? Or is it good ol’ manual colour mixing?
What pigments does Moriarty consider as ideal cyan, magenta and yellow, please?
3:05 It’s interesting that this plot places magenta opposite green rather than the more traditional red. It makes sense to me because PV19 and PR122 mix blacks with PG36 and sometimes PG7. Different brands will give you different results, hence my bundling of PV19 with PR122 and PG7 with PG36. I am aware of the difference between all of these pigments.
He's in a couple videos on YT talking about his research I think
Thanks.
My kind of nerd :)
0:20 He's created the perfect abstract beetle
Also, great video and presentation of info
This is cool, but if you understand color theory the wheel isn't necessary. If you mix a cool red like magenta with a warm blue like thyalo, you're going to get a muddy color. You have to keep warm with warm, cool with cool.
It’s interesting that what is labelled as magenta is actually more of a Violet, at least to me. Does anyone else see it like that?
How accurately does the camera capture colours? Was the camera calibrated? What colourspace was used to record the video? Was that maintained when it was uploaded to RUclips? Is your display calibrated? How accurate is your display without calibration?
Colour is a complex matter, whether physically or digitally.
@@sendi_sen Indeed!
why’s it vertical
Is this related to the Kubeco-Monk theory that you based your trillium on? Both this wheel and the trillium have curved mixing lines.
Did I understand anything? A little bit..
Am I an artist? Yes.
Will I even use this little knowledge? Absolutely not 🤣
Ive been doing various types of art for over 30 years.... colors are weird.
It seems like this color wheel is based loosely on Munsell color system. Albiet, a more user friendly colorwheel than the munsell, for sure.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munsell_color_system
It's worth noting that it goes deeper, because the full visual isn't 2d, it's 3d. The shape, roughly, is like a spinning top, with the darkest colors at the botttom tip, the lightest at the top, and the mid shades being from the core (gray) to the outer rim (highest chroma reds, blues, purples, oranges, etc).