I too would have positioned myself in front of the car, even with the left turn, the car ws not indicating, its a case of maximizing my presence on the road, especially at junctions & roundabouts, we as cyclists have to because the idiot ego drivers are increasing in number.
@@raydunne6894 There`s no law requiring cyclists to pay road tax, if that changes, I`ll pay it, would you pay a tax that you don`t have to ? no, I thought not, your issue should be with the government, not me, I dont make the rules, assuming you can write, may I suggest you send them a letter & explain why those pesky cyclists should pay to be on the road. Let me know how you get on.
@@raydunne6894, there is no such thing as ‘road tax’. The Road Board, created by the Development and Road Improvements Bill, published in August 1909, gave grants from the fund to local authorities to repair roads damaged by motorists. Even in the early days of motoring, roads were mostly paid for by general and local taxation. Paying Road Fund dues was never a fee for using a road, it was a fee to be paid out to local authorities for the damage done to roads by motorists. A Customs memo of 1908 said the “increased taxation of motors…” would “aid in restoring local roads damaged by motors licensed in other areas.” Churchill’s long-standing opposition to the Road Fund was largely financial but not exclusively so. Fearing motorists would lay claim to roads by dint of paying for a small portion of their repair, he wrote: “It will be only a step from this for [motorists] to claim in a few years the moral ownership of the roads their contributions have created.” The Road Fund was abolished in 1937.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire don't you think its a bit ,in the face ,to be popping in front of cars waiting at the lights ,why could u not ne a pleasant young boy and stop just to the left of the waiting vehical
Just like the driver in the video, you haven't paid any attention to the advanced stop line area, have you. You really think it's a good idea to wait next to a vehicle? Do you now why that area is marked there for cyclists? You don't have a clue.
We tend not to use the Advanced Stop Line because drivers know it will be clear ahead of us get triggered and do a stupid overtake. So we will wait behind a car and follow them. As there is no gap for a driver to fit into they don't overtake.
As a cyclist, I would have stopped to the rear nearside of the BMW (back left, for anyone under 40) then simply pulled away and turned left when the lights changed.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire Yes, I do. Why would you want to get to the front af a queue of vehicles that may have just overtaken you, only to pull away and have them do it all over again when the lights change?
@@rogersimmons8788 Erm, you don't seem to appreciate asl's or understand why they are there, do you. You use them for visibilty and to skip queues. If I had been way back as the lights changed, I wouldn't have used the asl. But I had loads of time to get to the front. Why wouldn't you use the one piece of infrastructure like this around here for your benefit? Why even bother with a bicycle if you don't filter and make the most of such a free mode of transport? It's worth noting that there is a cycle path leading up to this asl, but its on the opposite side and disconnected. So most of the time, they won't have passed you previously because you would be on said cycle path.
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire I fully understand asl's. In the example you posted, as I previously said, why pull in front of the motorist, in particular, as you were turning left? As a side issue, I see loads of RUclips clips that appear very much to me that cyclists are looking for confrontation. Back on the subject, just because an asl is available doesn't mean it's a good idea to use it.
@@rogersimmons8788 It really didn't matter which part of the asl I used. The driver wasn't inconvenienced in any way. Its space for cyclists to use to be seen. Funny how you don't mention the driver's road rage for no reason at all. As a side, I see loads of poor driving, hence why I ride with cameras. I also see loads of poor driving videos where people jump through hoops to make out the person in two tonnes of metal is the victim. I also see people who start their comments with 'as a cyclist' talking absolute bulls*it.
Why did you move in front of the car? You were turning left yet you moved right to sit squarely in front of the car despite there being ample room on the left.
@@stu176mmm Because I could. Because I had the whole area to move around in. Do you know why these asl zones exist? They aren't just for getting to the front, they are also to give cyclists a space to be visible. To be fair, it didn't really matter where I went because the whole space was mine. Didn't matter if I was on the left or in the centre. The only people who get annoyed with this are idiots like the driver.
@@stu176mmm Fine. You are allowed to disagree with me. You are wrong though. As I said earlier, only idiots see an issue with someone on a bicycle using the space they are given. Next you'll be saying that taking primary position is just causing trouble.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire The worst part of cycling for me is how we always seem to inadvertantly break a lot of vaginas just by being out there. If they can't handle the responsibility of driving THEY shouldn't be out there.
@@neiljones4025 Where have I said that they aren't allowed? I know this asl area very well. A lot of motorists drive into it anyway, well after the lights have changed. I've even got video proof. This should be a rare occurrence, but it isn't. It's just abused. I see you have completely missed the point of the video though. That is a motorist not understating the asl rules. Well done. Another motorist who doesn't understand the rules.
0:53 @@CyclingSouthLincolnshire You deliberately pulled in front of the car for no reason whatever when you was turning left to cause a confrontation , that's why car honked and you know that just to create a scene ...
@@neiljones4025 Waaaa. WAAAA. The cyclist was using the space dedicated to them. They are allowed infront for visibility purposes. That's why the whole area is marked out for them. But waaaaa. Waaaa. Goddamn cyclist using the road! Please tell me what I did that inconvenienced the driver in any way? I think it's your tiny little carbrain in action. It doesn't matter where a cyclist places themselves in that area. You are just being stupid like the car driver in the video.
Imagine if your child got triggered that easy, imagine a grown adult man getting triggered that easy, when he wasnt even held up. Wow.
Bravery of giving out as they're driving off
I too would have positioned myself in front of the car, even with the left turn, the car ws not indicating, its a case of maximizing my presence on the road, especially at junctions & roundabouts, we as cyclists have to because the idiot ego drivers are increasing in number.
@@heavanstomergatroid9825 Correct. What some idiots fail to realise is we have all of that space anyway, to make us visible. No problem using it.
Thats what makes cyclists like you upset drivers, pay road tax or shut up
@@raydunne6894 ?
@@raydunne6894 There`s no law requiring cyclists to pay road tax, if that changes, I`ll pay it, would you pay a tax that you don`t have to ? no, I thought not, your issue should be with the government, not me, I dont make the rules, assuming you can write, may I suggest you send them a letter & explain why those pesky cyclists should pay to be on the road. Let me know how you get on.
@@raydunne6894, there is no such thing as ‘road tax’.
The Road Board, created by the Development and Road Improvements Bill, published in August 1909, gave grants from the fund to local authorities to repair roads damaged by motorists.
Even in the early days of motoring, roads were mostly paid for by general and local taxation. Paying Road Fund dues was never a fee for using a road, it was a fee to be paid out to local authorities for the damage done to roads by motorists. A Customs memo of 1908 said the “increased taxation of motors…” would “aid in restoring local roads damaged by motors licensed in other areas.”
Churchill’s long-standing opposition to the Road Fund was largely financial but not exclusively so. Fearing motorists would lay claim to roads by dint of paying for a small portion of their repair, he wrote:
“It will be only a step from this for [motorists] to claim in a few years the moral ownership of the roads their contributions have created.”
The Road Fund was abolished in 1937.
Typical aggressive motorist behaviour.
he's even that thick he didnt spot the camera on top of your helmet, and on the back of the bike.
1 of the people that complains they were born
Who? Where? Looks like simple road rage to me, for no reason.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire don't you think its a bit ,in the face ,to be popping in front of cars waiting at the lights ,why could u not ne a pleasant young boy and stop just to the left of the waiting vehical
Just like the driver in the video, you haven't paid any attention to the advanced stop line area, have you. You really think it's a good idea to wait next to a vehicle? Do you now why that area is marked there for cyclists? You don't have a clue.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire it's just that if a policeman saw that he wouldn't be phased in any way
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshireHE’S A TROLL BROTHER HE COMES ON TO MY CHANNEL AND BASICALLY JUST TALKS ABSOLUTE B0LL0X 👍🫡
We tend not to use the Advanced Stop Line because drivers know it will be clear ahead of us get triggered and do a stupid overtake. So we will wait behind a car and follow them. As there is no gap for a driver to fit into they don't overtake.
As a cyclist, I would have stopped to the rear nearside of the BMW (back left, for anyone under 40) then simply pulled away and turned left when the lights changed.
@@rogersimmons8788 So you think asl's are a waste of time?
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire Yes, I do. Why would you want to get to the front af a queue of vehicles that may have just overtaken you, only to pull away and have them do it all over again when the lights change?
@@rogersimmons8788 Erm, you don't seem to appreciate asl's or understand why they are there, do you. You use them for visibilty and to skip queues. If I had been way back as the lights changed, I wouldn't have used the asl. But I had loads of time to get to the front. Why wouldn't you use the one piece of infrastructure like this around here for your benefit? Why even bother with a bicycle if you don't filter and make the most of such a free mode of transport? It's worth noting that there is a cycle path leading up to this asl, but its on the opposite side and disconnected. So most of the time, they won't have passed you previously because you would be on said cycle path.
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire I fully understand asl's.
In the example you posted, as I previously said, why pull in front of the motorist, in particular, as you were turning left?
As a side issue, I see loads of RUclips clips that appear very much to me that cyclists are looking for confrontation.
Back on the subject, just because an asl is available doesn't mean it's a good idea to use it.
@@rogersimmons8788 It really didn't matter which part of the asl I used. The driver wasn't inconvenienced in any way. Its space for cyclists to use to be seen. Funny how you don't mention the driver's road rage for no reason at all. As a side, I see loads of poor driving, hence why I ride with cameras. I also see loads of poor driving videos where people jump through hoops to make out the person in two tonnes of metal is the victim. I also see people who start their comments with 'as a cyclist' talking absolute bulls*it.
Nothing to see here.
Why did you move in front of the car? You were turning left yet you moved right to sit squarely in front of the car despite there being ample room on the left.
@@stu176mmm Because I could. Because I had the whole area to move around in. Do you know why these asl zones exist? They aren't just for getting to the front, they are also to give cyclists a space to be visible. To be fair, it didn't really matter where I went because the whole space was mine. Didn't matter if I was on the left or in the centre. The only people who get annoyed with this are idiots like the driver.
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire have to disagree with you. You were looking for confrontation.
@@stu176mmm Fine. You are allowed to disagree with me. You are wrong though. As I said earlier, only idiots see an issue with someone on a bicycle using the space they are given. Next you'll be saying that taking primary position is just causing trouble.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire The worst part of cycling for me is how we always seem to inadvertantly break a lot of vaginas just by being out there. If they can't handle the responsibility of driving THEY shouldn't be out there.
cycle craft teaches cyclists to take primary at junctions even when turning left.
JAnother cyclist who know nothing ,Cars are allowed in the asl if the lights change on the approach and cannot stop in time .Learn the hwc.
@@neiljones4025 Where have I said that they aren't allowed? I know this asl area very well. A lot of motorists drive into it anyway, well after the lights have changed. I've even got video proof. This should be a rare occurrence, but it isn't. It's just abused. I see you have completely missed the point of the video though. That is a motorist not understating the asl rules. Well done. Another motorist who doesn't understand the rules.
0:53 @@CyclingSouthLincolnshire You deliberately pulled in front of the car for no reason whatever when you was turning left to cause a confrontation , that's why car honked and you know that just to create a scene ...
@@neiljones4025 Waaaa. WAAAA. The cyclist was using the space dedicated to them. They are allowed infront for visibility purposes. That's why the whole area is marked out for them. But waaaaa. Waaaa. Goddamn cyclist using the road!
Please tell me what I did that inconvenienced the driver in any way? I think it's your tiny little carbrain in action. It doesn't matter where a cyclist places themselves in that area. You are just being stupid like the car driver in the video.
@@CyclingSouthLincolnshire Basically your a content creater ,with no consideration for other road users .
@@neiljones4025 basically, you are wrong. Have a nice day. 👍 Thanks for answering my questions.