I have been a crowns player since 2008. I play on and off, but I have every single world and area bought in crowns up till the end of Lemuria. I can 100% say that I have saved a lot more money buying the game with crowns as opposed to a yearly membership. Not having the member benefits isn't really that big of a deal due to me having an excess of membership elixirs I never use. As a casual player since 2008, id have to disagree. Nevertheless, I'm happy people still have memberships so that KI can continue to make money and stay in business! I haven't bought crowns in 4 years and currently I have 12,000 crowns left from my stockpile so I will need to spend money soon unfortunately. I strongly advise everyone to start working towards buying the game in crowns especially if you have been playing for as long as me! doing all these memberships really makes you lose out on money!
I’ve been a membership player since 2012, but i do take my fair amount of long breaks so Membership is the thing for me but I can’t say the same for everyone else, but for your case, you did make the right move and you did indeed save hundreds of more dollars just buying the game for how long you’ve played as a casual player.
Been a crowns player for a while and I’d agree member is definitely the way to go for any new player that decides to try this game out. Imagine not liking this game and spending crowns rather than spending $10 to access to everything until that month expires
I went the crowns route full fledge and honestly, 2.5 years into it it's not terrible but you def have to be in it for the long-haul - but as new worlds keep coming I can def see the value of going the member route being better, thankfully the scroll covers you on the member benefits of gardening and double pet xp though the backpack space isn't too bad if you organize your backpack and utilize your bank/shared bank properly Yes,, I flat out bought everything when I got back into it in the summer of 2019, no going back at this point, and honestly feels good when I go into slumps in wiz, currently at 6 maxes and my bal is in empyrea so the end is near - but for a new player def membership is prob the way to go cuz most people are probably not going into the long haul at this point
I considered buying them outright instead of a membership at first because of how long I spent on my fire just going through the first arc, but after started a death and caught up to myself in a week I realized I really just didn't know how to play the game. Your videos have most definitely helped with that!
This doesn't take into account the crowns sales. I bought 2x 60$ worth during the summer sale almost a decade ago when I was in Avalon, and I'm still coasting off that balance in Karamelle. I'll come back every year or two and play for a month or two at a time. The advantage for me is that the crowns stay with me forever, while if I tried to do the same thing with a membership I would only be able to play when the game was on sale. But as you said, it's only worth it if you're in for the long haul. In my case, the crowns are easily the most cost-effective
It’s something I’ve considered a lot over the many years since I started playing. Membership vs crowns…and I also have a spreadsheet with the area pricing! You’re right that it really depends on how long you’ll be playing (in years). I’ve had an account for long enough that it would’ve made more sense to go the crowns route from the start. The problem I see now is: if I buy areas permanently using crowns, how “permanent” will it be? It could make sense if there’s, say, another 6-10+ years left in the game…but how likely that is to happen? Oh, and since you can now buy an elixir with 50 more backpack spaces in the crowns shop, it addresses that one issue when comparing crowns vs member benefits. And you have to judge how much the other perks of membership are worth it to you.
What I do is that I have a few areas unlocked with crowns (Atheneum for lore, Vestrilund for gold, Aerial jungle for CPs and some jewels). I buy a month of member every time a new world comes out and just chill the rest of the time. I don't PvP so no member needed honestly.
I decided about a week ago that on a new account I would play the game in its entirety without ever using any money. No paying for crowns, no membership. Using the daily trivia, I will spend however long it takes to beat the whole game. Doing the math using the crowns specified in the video, I should take about 2100 days, since the game gives you 75 to to start. Probably going to take around 2500 days to beat though, since I'll probably forget a few days. Hope to see you all in around 6.8 years!
I love the game and know ill play every now and then wish I would of strated buying áreas with crowns! Now ived used crowns UP to mirage for the couch for now hopefully I can get more crowns to level up
I have played for 8 years still don't have a max wizard but I have full dragoon fire and I'm always farm for the best gear and have 8 wizards I quest at same time and sometimes get bored switch around or quit the game no way could I max a wizard in a week
you forget to mention you only need 162,375 crowns to buy main line !! with sale thats 165$ - thats like 2 yr of annual mem without sale and 2.5 with sale without: 205$ - 2.7 yr without sale and 3.5 with sale
First off LOVE your content and your views. 2nd I have been playing the game for about 11 years and have spent a little over a grand on the game. If I had known these numbers back then I gotta say after putting in the first year I would have bought the game. For new players yes membership all the way but for some players (like myself) they fell in love with the game and find themself always coming back. Whether that's to try out a new wizard or help out the newer players. You have no idea how many people dont even know about water works because they are just returning to the game after being gone for 4 years or w.e. Glad to know that I should look into buying the game as its honestly alot cheaper than I knew. Thanks Noah. As a side note is there a way to DM you? I have a couple questions that I'm hoping you may be able to answer?
The questions I'd like to ask are more personal. Might be a dumb idea. Might not. Either way I'd rather not have the internet rip me a new one for simply being curious. I also unfortunately do not currently have a discord and its kinda hard to communicate thru a comment section on RUclips lol.
280$ for 13 years and thousands of hours of content is not that bad, that's less than 5 new full priced triple A games. I still prefer membership though.
Despite all the points you made, this question is still killing me. I think I could actually afford to go all out and just get the game with crowns, I believe that I'll genuinely be playing this game on and off for the rest of my life cause it's just so damn addicting. There's just one problem - will the servers still be up like, let's say, 10 years? Ok, they most likely will, since KI just got acquired by another company. But how about 20? 30? I don't have time to play this game all year round, so the other option would be getting monthly memberships here and there... Dude, I cannot make a decision. Also feeling massively guilty for dishing out potentially hundreds of dollars for a kids' game. Is this game a blessing or a curse? 🤯
lmao i feel the same way! i am a uni student and got myself a one year mem and it really didn't work out as i hoped! i had the strong urge to play this game whenever i had a tad bit of free time to not waste money and honesty: it really killed me! which way did you go in the end, my friend?
the membership is better because you can flow thru the worlds fairly faster and the unlocking of the whole like ive said the annual membership is the best for your money sometimes they run sales on like 20 dollars less and you get sometimes an insane amount of crowns if you think of money wise 12 months for 80 dollarrs verses 120 dollars for 12 monthly payments its a no brainer
you forgot to keep in mind that some people wanna slowly enjoy the game and also with annual mem, i have the urge to play in my every little free time - which obvious is not healthy! but yeah for people like u it would work :)
@@marcus716 Yes. I'm technically saving money since i don't have to pay 10 bucks a month. I guess the only downside of this is you gain no member benefits. Since I have maxed all my chars and done pvp on them , I'm not really in need of making any pets or stuff.
Not sure. From the math I did though 475/10 is 47.5 which means it would take about 4 years or 48 months to get to, while yearly is 475/80 which is 5.93 or 6 years.
I recommend just buying membership to try it out and going from there. One thing i’d also like to point out is it’s sadly not the developers that are money hungry. The developers are probably barely seeing most of this money, it’s the company of KI itself.
@@balazsd9376 Of course it’s not okay. I never would say it is. But we definitely need to focus on blaming the right people for this issue is what I’m getting at.
I have been a crowns player since 2008. I play on and off, but I have every single world and area bought in crowns up till the end of Lemuria. I can 100% say that I have saved a lot more money buying the game with crowns as opposed to a yearly membership. Not having the member benefits isn't really that big of a deal due to me having an excess of membership elixirs I never use. As a casual player since 2008, id have to disagree. Nevertheless, I'm happy people still have memberships so that KI can continue to make money and stay in business! I haven't bought crowns in 4 years and currently I have 12,000 crowns left from my stockpile so I will need to spend money soon unfortunately. I strongly advise everyone to start working towards buying the game in crowns especially if you have been playing for as long as me! doing all these memberships really makes you lose out on money!
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I’ve been a membership player since 2012, but i do take my fair amount of long breaks so Membership is the thing for me but I can’t say the same for everyone else, but for your case, you did make the right move and you did indeed save hundreds of more dollars just buying the game for how long you’ve played as a casual player.
Well I did buy all the areas of Wizard City with crowns. It was worth it.
Been a crowns player for a while and I’d agree member is definitely the way to go for any new player that decides to try this game out. Imagine not liking this game and spending crowns rather than spending $10 to access to everything until that month expires
Membership is better but crowns is good for an area you plan on farming and if you’re going to play every once in a blue moon
Agreed. I like being a crowns player because I play infrequently and I can pick up months later from wherever I left off.
I went the crowns route full fledge and honestly, 2.5 years into it it's not terrible but you def have to be in it for the long-haul - but as new worlds keep coming I can def see the value of going the member route being better, thankfully the scroll covers you on the member benefits of gardening and double pet xp though the backpack space isn't too bad if you organize your backpack and utilize your bank/shared bank properly
Yes,, I flat out bought everything when I got back into it in the summer of 2019, no going back at this point, and honestly feels good when I go into slumps in wiz, currently at 6 maxes and my bal is in empyrea so the end is near - but for a new player def membership is prob the way to go cuz most people are probably not going into the long haul at this point
I considered buying them outright instead of a membership at first because of how long I spent on my fire just going through the first arc, but after started a death and caught up to myself in a week I realized I really just didn't know how to play the game. Your videos have most definitely helped with that!
This doesn't take into account the crowns sales. I bought 2x 60$ worth during the summer sale almost a decade ago when I was in Avalon, and I'm still coasting off that balance in Karamelle. I'll come back every year or two and play for a month or two at a time. The advantage for me is that the crowns stay with me forever, while if I tried to do the same thing with a membership I would only be able to play when the game was on sale. But as you said, it's only worth it if you're in for the long haul. In my case, the crowns are easily the most cost-effective
It’s something I’ve considered a lot over the many years since I started playing. Membership vs crowns…and I also have a spreadsheet with the area pricing!
You’re right that it really depends on how long you’ll be playing (in years). I’ve had an account for long enough that it would’ve made more sense to go the crowns route from the start. The problem I see now is: if I buy areas permanently using crowns, how “permanent” will it be? It could make sense if there’s, say, another 6-10+ years left in the game…but how likely that is to happen?
Oh, and since you can now buy an elixir with 50 more backpack spaces in the crowns shop, it addresses that one issue when comparing crowns vs member benefits. And you have to judge how much the other perks of membership are worth it to you.
What I do is that I have a few areas unlocked with crowns (Atheneum for lore, Vestrilund for gold, Aerial jungle for CPs and some jewels).
I buy a month of member every time a new world comes out and just chill the rest of the time. I don't PvP so no member needed honestly.
Great video… i have debated with so many ppl about this. Gonna use ur vid to help explain!! Ty!!
If you count Trivia crowns, Lemuria is cheaper
True, but that could really be said for all of them.
I decided about a week ago that on a new account I would play the game in its entirety without ever using any money. No paying for crowns, no membership. Using the daily trivia, I will spend however long it takes to beat the whole game. Doing the math using the crowns specified in the video, I should take about 2100 days, since the game gives you 75 to to start. Probably going to take around 2500 days to beat though, since I'll probably forget a few days. Hope to see you all in around 6.8 years!
I love the game and know ill play every now and then wish I would of strated buying áreas with crowns! Now ived used crowns UP to mirage for the couch for now hopefully I can get more crowns to level up
Membership is cheaper if you have multiple accounts on your family it cost 6 something per account
In my opinion crowns might be better. Membership runs out after a certain amount of time
Yeah I made some mistakes as a 6 year old
I have played for 8 years still don't have a max wizard but I have full dragoon fire and I'm always farm for the best gear and have 8 wizards I quest at same time and sometimes get bored switch around or quit the game no way could I max a wizard in a week
you forget to mention
you only need 162,375 crowns to buy main line !!
with sale thats 165$ - thats like 2 yr of annual mem without sale and 2.5 with sale
without: 205$ - 2.7 yr without sale and 3.5 with sale
Maybe, but a lot of the side areas are definitely needed for gear purposes. Definitely Darkmoor and Catacombs at least.
First off LOVE your content and your views. 2nd I have been playing the game for about 11 years and have spent a little over a grand on the game. If I had known these numbers back then I gotta say after putting in the first year I would have bought the game. For new players yes membership all the way but for some players (like myself) they fell in love with the game and find themself always coming back. Whether that's to try out a new wizard or help out the newer players. You have no idea how many people dont even know about water works because they are just returning to the game after being gone for 4 years or w.e. Glad to know that I should look into buying the game as its honestly alot cheaper than I knew. Thanks Noah. As a side note is there a way to DM you? I have a couple questions that I'm hoping you may be able to answer?
You can ask the questions here if you want or join my discord server and ask there.
The questions I'd like to ask are more personal. Might be a dumb idea. Might not. Either way I'd rather not have the internet rip me a new one for simply being curious. I also unfortunately do not currently have a discord and its kinda hard to communicate thru a comment section on RUclips lol.
Took me over 10 years to get to level 50💀😭🙏
crown player 4 lyfe. havent been subbed in 10 years
good job wasting money
280$ for 13 years and thousands of hours of content is not that bad, that's less than 5 new full priced triple A games. I still prefer membership though.
A month of membership is cheaper than lunch at McDonalds. If you are broke then go get a job.
Ne over here just at marleybone in a month because I've been trying to get a decent pet lol
pvp is free now
Despite all the points you made, this question is still killing me. I think I could actually afford to go all out and just get the game with crowns, I believe that I'll genuinely be playing this game on and off for the rest of my life cause it's just so damn addicting. There's just one problem - will the servers still be up like, let's say, 10 years? Ok, they most likely will, since KI just got acquired by another company. But how about 20? 30? I don't have time to play this game all year round, so the other option would be getting monthly memberships here and there... Dude, I cannot make a decision. Also feeling massively guilty for dishing out potentially hundreds of dollars for a kids' game. Is this game a blessing or a curse? 🤯
lmao i feel the same way! i am a uni student and got myself a one year mem and it really didn't work out as i hoped! i had the strong urge to play this game whenever i had a tad bit of free time to not waste money and honesty: it really killed me!
which way did you go in the end, my friend?
the membership is better because you can flow thru the worlds fairly faster and the unlocking of the whole like ive said the annual membership is the best for your money sometimes they run sales on like 20 dollars less and you get sometimes an insane amount of crowns if you think of money wise 12 months for 80 dollarrs verses 120 dollars for 12 monthly payments its a no brainer
you forgot to keep in mind that some people wanna slowly enjoy the game and also with annual mem, i have the urge to play in my every little free time - which obvious is not healthy! but yeah for people like u it would work :)
noah you play wiz like ten years am i right? so you sould be buy all the world before ten years😂😂( i write that before i see him say it lol twice😂😂😂)
i bought the entire game with crowns 😂 it hurts my wallet but not me
was it worth it
@@marcus716 Yes. I'm technically saving money since i don't have to pay 10 bucks a month. I guess the only downside of this is you gain no member benefits. Since I have maxed all my chars and done pvp on them , I'm not really in need of making any pets or stuff.
Crowns for member is much better. No tax
4:45 wait why is the monthly member more cost effective than the year member? 🤔
Not sure. From the math I did though 475/10 is 47.5 which means it would take about 4 years or 48 months to get to, while yearly is 475/80 which is 5.93 or 6 years.
@@KaiserNoah ohh I see, I misread it. So you would get only just 4 yrs monthly vs the huge/more 6 yrs yearly
I’ve always been a member player I only get crowns for stitch and packs kinda lol 💀
yes. feed me more content. nice vid
When I was a little kid, I tried crowns because it said you get access forever and ended up wasting my money on buying zone access to sunken city.
This game and its delvelopers are disgustingly money hungry i swear i wanted to start this game but now im disgusted
I recommend just buying membership to try it out and going from there. One thing i’d also like to point out is it’s sadly not the developers that are money hungry. The developers are probably barely seeing most of this money, it’s the company of KI itself.
@@KaiserNoah this is still not okay. Dont advertise the game as "free" if u have 1 hour max free gameplay.
Its just dissapointing that i actually liked this game till i found out
@@balazsd9376 Of course it’s not okay. I never would say it is. But we definitely need to focus on blaming the right people for this issue is what I’m getting at.
@@KaiserNoah Is there any way to get worlds for free? cuz if not im not playing this game
Hello my friend ☹️
I’m new to the game but it’s a fun game to play😎
Ranked PVP doesn't require member anymore!
huh. pog. wiz should probably change their website then.
Depends on level.