NASCAR Fan Reacts to How Formula 1 is Filmed (It's a Technical Masterpiece)
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This season they have introduced in helmet cameras. These are set within the helmet, at eye level and give a very good feel for what the driver can see in mirrors or looking forward through the HALO.
As far as I'm aware these were first used in Formula E, the electric version of F1.
Australia's channel 7 network were the originators of car cam, Introduces in 1979 Hardie-Ferodo 1000 race at Mount Panorama. Then American audiences were first introduced to RaceCam at NASCAR's 1979 Daytona 500 after the Aussies moved to the states and formed Broadcast Sports Technology Inc. The first time a live onboard camera was used in a Formula One race was at the 1985 German Grand Prix.
@@TheTazzietiger I was eleven and yes, it was and is great. I still jokingly say "when I grow up I want to be a racing car driver"
I remember in 79 the helicopter had to be directly over the camera car to pick up and relay the feed.
Ps, also 56.
I'm pretty sure Chanel 7 invented the in road cameras for the Adelaide GP.
C'mon Ian , you did a thing on us Aussie's inventing on board cameras..
Fun fact: When onboard cameras began becoming more common toward the end of the 80s, they were still BIG boxes that caused quite some aerodynamic penalty. And since they only had cameras for a few of the cars it was decided that all cars should have the camera box, regardless of whether there was a camera in it or not.
Try watching the vid of Fernando Alonso using a track camera during FP2 in Brazil. His car broke down and instead of returning to the pits, he just went to a nearby cameraman and takeover his spot. What a hilarious thing to see.
since last year, helmet cameras are introduced and from next year it is mandatory for every driver! These cameras have a weight of 2,5 grams
Really mind boggling to imagine this kind of logistical nightmare 🤣Keeping everything live . Awesome Ian great breakdown bts info.
Yeah the logistics of organizing and especially directing it is insane... There's a lot of good behind the scenes footage of those crazy control rooms for NFL, I know 1320 did a good video on the direction of top fuel drag races
F1 is such pedigree and has so much money, the actual logistics of moving it all is like a military operation, you'd think they would hire military logistiticians to help them organize it
@@TheGoodChap yes I njoy live racing and sports. Just awesome through home theatre systems
And we are still waiting for our parcels to be delivered 1-2 days after the estimated time 😆
Well if they delay ours for F1, it is 100% worth it though🤣
There is also a helmet cam that is used with 1 driver per GP and the same for the new peddle cam
no, there are two different helmet fabricant, one has a helmet camera, the other not. (f.ex. none of the RB drivers have helmet cameras, where the both Ferrari drivers have it)
from next saison on, all the drivers are mandatory to have a helmet camera
They didn't even mention the helmet camera, one of the most interesting. They don't use them as much in the live broadcast because the visibility isn't great but that's also what technically makes it the most immersive/accurate experience for the viewer. The drivers are very low in their seats so they don't see the track directly in front of them, they're bouncing around after every bump, they have to change a bunch of stuff on the steering wheel while trying to make a corner etc. All of that you can only really see with the helmet cam
I love this video and I’m 99% sure the guy that did this video also interviews the guy that did that whip camera shot (which is at eau rouge at spa-francorchamps 😉)…another really really good channel that has heaps of behind the scenes stuff on F1 is Matt Amys’ channel…he used to work as part of the filming crew for Formula E…and there’s even more amazing cameras this season like helmet cam…a tiny pinhole camera in the drivers helmet…
The FIA also have access to camera shots that we dont see, for handing out the penalty's and making judgements
7:31 ... I love the hi tech fixation of the cam.
It's a A-TEAM cam!
At Silverstone (British GP) this year, F1 did a trial run with drone camera shots following the cars along the sides and over the iconic Luffield corner.
It wasn't that good, a little bit shaky and dizzying... but at least they are trying to get more camera angles.. and finding the correct way to fly the drones maintaining stability while trying to keep up with the car chase.
But the real piece of cake is taken by the newly introduced (in fact tested in 2021 season) in-helmet camera - which very closely sits at the driver's eyelevel - thus giving the world of non-F1 drivers a taste of how complex it is to race at such high speeds on the twisty asphalts - out of which 1/3rds are the regular bumpy streets!!!!
Hey loving the vids man. Just a friendly heads up. Just incase u didn't know bathurst is on the 6-9 oct. V8 supercars bathurst!! Last year of the Holden vs Ford. Love ya work! Peace n love from New Zealand.
Love your channel mate!
F1 was a little bit behind the curve when it originally started using car cams in the mid-late 80s. Though, considering how much larger cameras had to be back then, it makes sense that they would first be used in series where bulk and weight were of less concern than for an F1 car. There is F1 car cam footage predating this, but they were probably just for promotional purposes, done by the F1 teams themselves during testing or practice sessions. There's an onboard from 1957 of Fangio driving his Maserati... that must've added some bulk and drag to the car 😄
It was probably so heavy the car would flip if he really pushed XD
This video failed to mention two new cameras. First the helmet cam - placed behind visor on the eye level of a driver. And one unique camera placed in footwell showing pedal action. 🤯
Television coverage of the Tour De France would be interesting. Technically difficult because the “location” basically travels up to 200kms
across the ground while being televised… live.
7:10 Agreed. The head on that tripod is some serious tech.
This, plus the logistics video plus the other video concerning F1...
It's really one of the most intense - insanely so - sports to witness.
When I start watching ,it was Prost, Senna, Mansell and the young Schumacher. And hand shifted. What a time for F1.
LOL at my time, there was only one mic. The one in front of the speaker. Sometimes he explains over the landline phone. And he sat at starting line, so you saw the camera showing cars, moving around a curve but Heard cars with a high speed pass at the journalist. And you saw a 30 min. Cut in the middle of the night. But even long into the 90th the quality was bad.
You absolutely NEED to react to the 2021 season finale between Hamilton and Verstappen, and all the controversy surrounding the race director decisions
Cool video idea.. enjoyed it heaps
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At the circuit in Zandvoort in the Netherlands, I saw a camera that worked remotely, next to our grandstand where we were sitting. It looked like the sissors lift and was just as big but then unmanned and with an extendable pole on which the camera is attached to and could rotate.
Couple things there blew my mind! I’m in to my photography and 5800 fps is AMAZING! Not to mention the $250,000 for a lens is tens times what I thought was a top lens 😳👍🏻
There is now an additional on board camera, at the base of the halo facing the driver.
That was simply mind-blowing! 🤯😲
there are now "drivers eye" cams and it is a camera inside the helmet showing what the driver sees
I don't know what used it first but the 360 cameras are already used in Indy as well as some GT race series
I will say, I wish that they took a page from NASCAR's book and had at least one static shot on the straight in each race. I know in the video they said their concerns there... but like... JUST ONE like nascar, to really show the speed as they whip by.
There’s now a ‘Driver’s Eye’ camera mounted in the padding of the drivers’ helmets.
edit: Also there’s a secondary feed in the timing tower on the side of the feed if 2 interesting things happen at the same time.
Well i like shot from that camera
126 cameras during race and they still pan to crowd shots while there's action on the track
If you watch F1 by internet on F1tv, you can be your own director. Camerafeeds of every driver can be picked at any moment you like, or you can follow the television feed.
I was just looking up Australia's Channel Sevens pioneering use of in car camera tech and better camera coverage around the circuit and when I went to comment I was beaten to it, but it is still true.
The 360 cam was used on the new camero v8 supercar months ago.
Also the in track camera has been used at Bathurst for years on Conrod strait.
this video is years old
Camera action has come a long way. "car cam" was an Australian invention pioneered by a Sydney TV station. Like the "black box" in aircraft, also an Australian invention, the stories behind the development of these inventions are fascinating..
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Don't forget the camera inside the helmet, that is a damn interesting thing to see.
And then there's Monaco that uses their own local film crew and messes up every single year.
Tho we get good memes like "Lance Stroll Interruption" out of it.
Excellent video
In the 80th and 90th track cameras were operated by artists not fans. And they had less. So they filmed the car from away, zoomed in, pull zoom while car is moving towards the camera, and after passing by zooming back in. I hated this even as a kid. Because this costs all dynamic and speed. If you are zooming in, dimension gets junked together. So the far away car, keeping his size on the screen because they zoom out when the car cakes towards the camera, the fact they tried the cars always filling thenwhole picture showed no movement. Even no background movements due to the high zoom rate, the fast background not noticeable zoomed in with 24fps and the shallow depot of field.
I remember when the on board cameras always was disturbed and dirty. Then they figured this round sliding Glas in front of the lense. But when it was roundabout dirty, it was dirty. You just saw dead flies turning in circles.
The cost of broadcast gear is just in another league where one of those track side cams as a full setup is pushing $400,000 if they have those long 90x zoom lenses on them. That also doesn't account for all the cabling, control room hardware, etc etc.
I love inside helmet camera
Crazy stuff
When F1 first started Bernie the owner of F 1 said the country’s filming his races were crap, so he took over the filming start using HD,he new he could do a better job
Carlos Sainz was not impressed by the downwash the heli was creating - destabilizing the car - and shouted out on the radio that it needed to move and climb. Every little bit counts!
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I'd love to see you react to f1 blown diffuser sounds hahaha
There is also a few drivers that have a camera in the visor of their helmet
F1 neck workout is the topic 😁👌
Bathurst was the first helicopter chase film cam and in car filming all was exported to the world to use in racing and documentaries wild animal zoom cameras cameras in rocks etc good export from Australia .
This year they introduced Helmet cameras... For you see what drivers see.
I remember seeing footage of f1 camera operators from fans filming them and its insane but there's also some crazy camera operators in basketball, as soon as they see a shot attempt they they zoom and perfectly follow the ball all the way to the basket, looks crazy to see them moving it like that
Regards the whip movement, also consider we don't notice rolling shutter in the video!
I'd recommend videos by 'Matt Amys' who does a lot of videos about production and bts of how F1 works logistically. The channel 'Chainbear' also has some good videos like this but mostly does strategy breakdown videos.
Who remembers Skycam? Do they still use them in stadiums. or is it all drone footage now? They used it, or maybe still use it on the main straight and pits area at Bathurst (I think).
There is a video called the insane logistics of formula 1.i think it's Wendover productions
5:42 Those Canon UHD Digisuper 90 Broadcast Lens With Semi Servo Controls are insanely expensive.
The cameras they use to film F1, maybe cost $5-20.000 each (I'm not sure what cameras they use).
The lenses, however - $188,030.00 each! Price is from the popular site for cameras and gear, B&H.
EDIT: So, apparently, they use a camera, called Grass Valley LDX98. They cost around $80.000 each. Which surprises me, as that is more expensive, than cameras used to shoot movies. Those usually cost around $20-80.000.
Probably something about immediately having to process and send all that 4k 60fps data to the tent, with proper focus and things that you wouldn't be able to edit after the fact. Also being robust enough to do these quick movements with such a massive lens without breaking in half.
Unfortunately all the cameras in the world wont help the lately notorious TV direction. The most infamous incident recently, well, 3 years ago now, Sebastian Vettel was lining up an overtake in Monaco and they cut to a replay of Lance Stroll hitting the barrier. It's now a meme, "Lance Stroll interrupts...". The main reason for that particular incident is F1 has no control over the TV direction in Monaco.
I wouldnt say they do it often but when it happens it's hilariously disastrous, missing crucial overtakes for minor things, stuff like that. The commentators rely on the shots to call the race too, so a few times they've been left actually saying "we cant see what's going on here...." or "we missed this but it happened..." that sort of thing.
They also just recently started using cameras inside the drivers helmet
Australia bathurst was the first car cam any where and of any class.
I love how they use drones nowadays and the drones can't keep up with the cars and eventually get left behind through the curves 😁😁
You should try comparing the Melbourne Grand Prix and the V8 Supercars. Same track, same weekend, and yet they almost look like they're on different tracks because of, well, how much faster F1 is (one corner in F1 is two corners and a short straight in V8s) and the camerawork has to be so much different to cover the different racing.
Haha, I knew this one was going to be good.
Formula E released a video similar to this one a while back talking about what goes into a race broadcast. They go over a lot of the same stuff talked about in this video, but you also get to see a lot on the broadcast center during a race and hear the camera director giving directions. It’s actually fascinating. ruclips.net/video/q7r-SVBgqms/видео.html
You should definitely watch the formula e behind the scenes video on the specifics of their set up. Honestly alot the formula E RUclips content would be good for a video
also... 127 camera's. at 100k a pop it's already over 12 million in equipment.
Wow
Bathurst have 112 fixed cameras around the track
If the races were more competitive it would be a lot more popular. It's at the point where a fraction of a second is major gap in performance.
2.25 : the car is not 1989 , but 1999. And camera car exist from final of 80s
Now there's helmet cam!📽️
Can you do a reaction to the brabham bt62 race car
I could be wrong, but...
I suspect that the number of cameras has less to do with the length of the track and more to do with the "twistiness". A circuit like Spa has relatively wide run-off areas and gravel traps, which gives long sight lines allowing one camera to cover a lot of the track. A circuit like Monaco, however, will need lots of cameras because, with lots of corners and walls right next to the track, the sight lines are short so you might even need multiple cameras to cover a single corner.
It’s a bit of both, you also have to take action points into consideration. Corners that have a bigger chance or over takes, crashes etc etc may have 6 or 7 cameras.
360 cams are used in drift cars
we work also in Europe😅, not only in US people work hard😉
May I suggest you react to "The insane logistics of Formula 1 by Wendover Productions".
Are you doing Bathurst this year Ian
F1 likely using refinements of the pioneering Australian channel 7 race cam system of 1979 for the Bathurst 1000 coverage.
Refined and documented a few years later in this vid :
ruclips.net/video/eeEnSK8mRQ8/видео.html
Lots of similarities even the pedal cam a few years later. In race driver interviews still not attempted elsewhere.
They are starting to use drones now
I thought the cameraman just runs beside the track like they do in the Olympics.
Kappa
Seriously though, those Olympics cameramen probably stand a good chance at winning medals themselves.
Please try watching mercedes Lewis Hamilton F1 car vrs Yamaha R1M Superbike somewhere in the caribeans, i thing it was Barbados. The f1 acceleration is just unbelieveble.
I personally don't think North America needs anymore races in Formula 1, I think 2 is more than enough. For F1 to be more popular in U.S.A it needs a American driver.
U should watch Fernando Alonso in Brazil doing camera
There are a lot more camera's then 126. 5 camera's on each car makes 110 camera's then including the rest it would be around 200 camera's not including the helmet cams
You gotta check out the new helmet cams 😏
it would be nice if you react to formula 1 logistics
Also, wishing all the best for everyone in Cuba, Florida and everywhere near Ian, please don't become another Katrina size storm.
they have helmet cams now if it doesn’t say in the video
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neighbours Mexico has a race... Americans always forget about Canada.
nice camera saturation lol
Imagine brodcasting video from 126 cameras. No wonder they sometimes seem little out of action and have to guess what to show... And miss lots of interesting stuff.
It's all incredibly impressive, and yet I find the fuzzy, bone-shaking footage of the 80s and 90s to be more exciting and visceral. It's just more raw and less sanitised. It's becoming difficult to differentiate between real F1 and video games.
Curently, also riders who have a Bell helmet have a in-helm camera which gives as if you are in the helmet looking almost to the rider's eye's. Next year also Schubert helmets are required to mount these camera's. Take a look at this: Fernando Alonso on Spa in '21: ruclips.net/video/IBJWLDEexDo/видео.html
Have you done a pit stop... tire change in more than 3 seconds is considered slow...
It's a shame that you weren't into F1 when the formula made sense. F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of motor racing in ALL aspects. This was a championship where, at one point, teams used qualifying tyres that were only good for a single push lap and special "hi spec" engines used, which wouldn't last much longer than qualifying before being swapped out to the race motor. It really was an unlimited class in terms of how much money you could invest
I don't know if you've watched Wendover Productions, but he has a really interesting video about the Logistics of F1.
Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/6OLVFa8YRfM/видео.html
Also, generally speaking, he makes really good videos!
If only the directors weren’t such amateurs, literally pulls out the camera to another car mid chase
Too bad the tv directors messed up the greatest pole lap in history of Lewis Hamilton in Singapore, the picture and the sound is so off