Farmhouse Restoration | Gutters
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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In this video we install a modern zinc gutter system onto a traditional French farmhouse. To buy brackets off the shelf was really expensive relative to the total amount of roof we have on the farm, so we decided to fabricate the brackets ourselves. Next we drilled a load of holes in the wall, set up some string lines and got to work. A few drill bits were snapped along the way but other than that, we had no major problems.
Let me know below how you fix gutters in your area, any positive or negative thoughts you have about this way!
“More drilling was done, and more holes were made.“ lol
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A real pleasure watching you two men work. And a genuine learning experience, too. Jolly good.
It absolutely amazes me how much you know how to do at such a young age. Your dad must have been teaching you by the time you could walk. I love watching your videos.
Have to agree with you 100%. Carl can be a chippy, a sparky, a plumber, a roofer, a car mechanic.... et i'l peut faire tout en Francais! Formidable, mon brave.
why didnt you braze solder the joins like the french do ?
Solder, solder, solder.
The gutter system looks simple but elegant. Nice work.
I think you should have soldered the joints rather than riveted, those rivets will not last. That is how I learnt of my French roofer. I think the reason they do it is because in France they get heavy rain and you will be surprised at how much pressure builds up. Nice video series!
c'mon already with the hacksaw. right angle grinder with a 1/16 in. cutoff wheel
What's wrong with some little birds making their nest on the roof, you want to live in the countryside for what?
Ohne diese aufwändige Konstruktion würde das historische Gebäude besser aussehen. Es ist hunderte von Jahren ohne so etwas
ausgekommen. Man braucht es einfach nicht.👎Und noch etwas: ein Dachdecker lötet Blechverbindungen und klebt nicht mit Silikon, weil
es nicht dauerhaft ist. Deshalb kein like!
Lovely bit of lateral thinking. If you can't buy what you want, then make it. Well done.
especially when you know its a rip off
@@carlroge It is doubly difficult when product is readimade and doesn't or can't be adapted for your situation. The joy of your guttering is that it was malleable unlike the plastic stuff for domestic use in the UK. Some friends of mine have a house near Malaga where rain gutter is never fitted. An after market product is used that clamps on the roof tile edge which is fine until the tiles fail. Your job looks in keeping with the age of the house and will age accordingly.
Hanging a plumb line down the wall to ensure the down spout is straight - simple genius! It's the easy things that everyone misses.
Birds nesting under your tiles wont cause harm. Swallows martins and sparrows all use them next time leave some open for the wildlife
They poo all over our terrace, garden furniture and washing. I’m all for nature but they are a nuisance, sorry.
I can imagine every Frenchman with his head in his hands saying quel con, it's supposed to be soldered, obviously, be interesting to see how it holds up with a full storm blowing but either way looks good👍
I went off to look up 'quel con', as I hadn't heard that one. That was an eye-opener! lol
Should have left the birds nest and not block the gap up it’s nice to have somewhere for them to build there nests
Shaun
bird lice and other bird diseases.. not a good idea.
The owner wanted them gone
Well I’m not going to bother watching this anymore
Wot - no soldered joints?
The guttering supports are also normally driven into the genoise to be closer to the roof tiles
I'm interested to see how the mastic joints work out as I've not had good results. Ended up soldering the old fashion way (and learnt a new skill! 😀).
Cannot solder aluminium to galvanised
Just caulk your seam in the gutter no one will see it and the water will go right over it
@@waynedrummond6583 there are some great products out there now Super Alloy 1 will solder aluminium to galvanised steel
@@waynedrummond6583 its all zinc used here in France, I've soldered hundreds of joints on zinc gutters
Great! I was just looking for a video like this one to learn about how to do it too!
Thank you and greetings from Portugal.
good luck!
That house is getting so much prettier, wonderful job. Wish you the best 👍👍👍
much appreciated :)
Looks like there’s a bigger gap than necessary between the tool rest and the wheel on your bench grinder, check your owners manual and close the gap for safety sake.
Love your channel, you do great work.
Hello from the Pacific Northwest. Beautiful gutter system you have there! We are on year 5 of a similar gutter (6” / 15 cm half round galvanized steel) install (father and son installed). The only difference is that we have are using rain chain instead of downspouts. We get a tremendous amount of precipitation here - 167 days a year on average . We have had 2 snow/ ice storms of 18” (45 cm) or greater accumulation since install and several windstorms of 50+mph (80+ kph). I am pleased to report the gutters still hold tight and have not needed any repairs. All joints are riveted and sealed with gutter mastic. You should anticipate a long happy life with your gutters😀👍 Fantastic channel have created. You and your dad make a good team. Keep up the good work. PS- still looking for the metric conversion factor for “days”.
"nights"?
Save the water water is very scarce here in the United States
Carl I'm loving this stuff, excellent work👍. I started working on old farm buildings with my uncle when I was 11. Some demolished and replaced with new large modern structures, others refurbished as it depended what the intended use was. Also cast sillage pits, cattle crushes and concreted lots of the farmyard as the winter weather in NW Ireland is ultra wet!! All via a mixer on the back of the tractor AFTER drawing the sand and gravel via trailer (all shovelled on) from local ancient beach areas (licenced). Uncle still farms it nearly 50 years later. We worked extremely hard but had great fun, your videos brought amazing memories back for me. It nearly killed my auntie trying to feed us as we were burning so many calories every day. 👍👍👍
ROCKON ....and...in the evening...no problem to sleep!!! cheers from north Italy
These videos bring me joy. You've inspired me to find an old place and restore it. I've learned from you.
On a restoration project such as this, saving money by devising ways to do the job yourself & improvising is the best option. You are doing that & seem to manage it in a way that gets the job done efficiently & is eye appealing. Nice work!
As thorough as possible. Top job. F all straight in an old French place.😮
cheers fella
A great lesson! That's how gutters are made for 200 years. (Only silicone will not last that long) ...
Why not copper? In Tuscany where I was born and in Italy they are also used for the restoration of historic buildings
Thanks for your video, very nice
Copper gutters are very VERY expensive in my country probably the same in his. Copper also oxidise and turn brown and splotchy
This looks good, for now. I hope it doesn't snow where you live... or rain to much.... or get too windy.
I NOTICED ON THE 54 PLUS MINUTE IT REALLY"TOOK OFF"! CONGRATS ON 6 MILLION VIEWS AND GROWING!!
Why Does Removed birds nest ??
Please provide shelter for theme
Soothing to watch your work... and listen to your voice!
Is this one of your houses or is it a contract job? And all Festool power tool, very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ very nice work. I lived 13 years in France, Étampes to be exact. Then I build a home in Arbouville just a 7 min drive from Étampes on N20.
Vive le silicone !!
Same we can only buy black / white plastic at B&Q in the UK - great work looks quality in my opinion
Won’t get better with the Brexit ;)
A vomir.......
Absurde de poser du silicone au lieu de souder les raccords en zinc. ...c'est voué aux problèmes récurant.
C'est vraiment pas professionnels
@@mclasouche1595 très bonne analyse. ...c'est vrai j'ai oublié de parler des membranes de dilatation
I hope the silicone that you are using is compatible with the tin of the gutters.The downpipe brackets are brilliant, Ive used them before and would recommend them to anyone.
Looks to me that in a heavy rainfall the water would shoot right over that gutter,.am I wrong
I think you guys are brilliant and inspiring. I have not watched all the videos yet, but I do think though that your younger sister deserves some mentioning from time to time.
Вот что значит снега нет...в России первый снегопад и сорвало все лотки
Hi,
It’s always nice to follow project.
It’s a pleasure to listen to you. Easy to follow. I’m not English.
How many are you in the family?
Looking forward to next episode.
Thks a lot
Louis
Mmmm structurally unsound and a flawed design. You can not ask small diameter horizontal rod to support weight vertically (cantilever without a support brace); they bend. Also, I am pretty sure 90% of the water is going to run down the tiles and right over (past) the guttering. Probably ok if the rain is light. The down pipes are lovely but 45 deg elbows would better flow.
Fantastic craftmenship well done
Wouldn't last in ice dam country without bracing every gutter bracket.
I've been going through your entire playlist : your videos are very soothing as a background while I'm working! Your voice-over, the nature sounds, you working and the wind chimes combine in the most wonderful way. Thank you!
I realise I'm super late to this video, but why aren't birds welcome to roost under the roof tiles ? The entire construction seems so solid that one nest can't really damage that, right?
Restoring the farm must feel to some types of birds like a restoration of their habitat, no?
Haha, months later, I had the exact same thought. I think I may have tried to block it with enough room left for a few wee birdies!
I love this beautiful, simple half-moon design. Clean and simple
I much prefer the metal rain system that's common in the rest of Europe. There's too much upvc shite in Ireland and England. Nice job lads, perfect fall on it. Just a pity the gutters couldn't go a bit closer the the eve tile, might allow heavy rain to over shoot.
I believe I have watched all of your videos. Bu at the end of this gutter rinstallation you mentioned connecting the downpipes to a 100 year old underground water tank.. Did you ever make this video? I did not find it. Many thanks.
I saw Xylocopa violacea (carpenter bumblebee) so that it does not gnaw the new roof (rafters), you can leave the old beams with drilled holes at a distance from the house. I apologize for my English
Nerd comment: this is rod, not bar. I should have liked to see how you calculated the angle of run-off, especially as the gutter seems a long way down from the over-shoot. Will it work in high winds?
There is a trick to half round gutter. If you twist it, you can feed the bead of one piece into the other without notching for the lap. You could have punched a hole in the gutter with an awl and cut it with tinsnips in about a tenth of the time it took to hook up a drill and hole saw. And why didn't you solder your seams? Zinc solders perfectly. That said, your brackets are ingenious. I have nothing but respect for your level of craftmanship. But let a tinsmith do the metal work, 'eh?
Really need to protect the cut ends with galv paint otherwise it's gonna rust away big time. Apart from that, nice job.
It looks astheticlly pleasing but the silicone stuff will eventually leak. The scope is an automatic level or dumpy level
...cant find the water tank video, mentioned at the very end of this one... Nice work btw.
I was enjoying this video until you decided to fill in the nest hole where probably a house sparrow was using, shame stopped watching after this
Great job, but it might look better in copper pipes!
Nice vid. That's a dumpy level though, not a theodolite by the way. Theodolites do angles.
I always thought that Theodolite was a low alcohol Greek beer, just as that cheap Greek wine is called Demostos.
no bez jaj niwelator do spadku rynny ,przecież to szczyt nieudacznictwa!!
I need to install gutters on my old farm in 2 weeks. This will help for sure. Thanks ! Subscribed.
Get some local advice - this video is not 100% right!
@@julianlecircle3674 Bit late to ask, but which bits?
🖖😎🐶🇮🇹
The gutters look beautiful but I'm not sure they will survive snow sliding from the roof.
Beautiful job ! Great attention to Detail . Two masters
Un gran lavoro , ma la grondaia installata così rovina la caratteristica del tetto, il bello di queste case è proprio il cornicione.
All that work on the Genoise Eaves and you just cover them with modern stainless steel gutters? I don't get it.
It is a beautiful house………………. In which country is this house and in what place and how old is the house?
..."lessons were not learned" so dead pan, made me cackle.
why have people down voted this video? gah
@@John-gm8ty, Probably gutter attachment manufacturers who were unhappy with the ingenuity and frugality which lost them some sales. MWAHAHA
@@John-gm8ty lllllllplllllllllllllllllllllllllll all all
Back again, finally. Awesome 😎
sorry for the delay!
На основании своего опыта скажу вам, что при сильном дожде вода польётся мимо, перелетев через желоб дальше.
External metalic gutters are not the most elegant ones. I would instead have suggested concealed roof gutters.
Nice, good old days all joints would have been soldered, now that would have been fun
cant help noticing that the "overs" tiles are not set correctly, water will miss the gutter and run down the wall, also the silicon will not withstand the heat in the summer, you need either a solder or the correct metal mastic. looks good though
You need a cordless Milwaukee grinder with a 6" metal cutting wheel makes life alot easier
2:29 there are some mirrored shots there, if I'm not mistaken.... i wonder what might be going on there^^
hopefully, a slight slope, so water run completely dry in gutters.
I hear sometimes some bells in my ears between the spoken words.....why is that ????
Lessons were not learned, next scene, bandaged thumb
Hello.
Why do you block out the birds?
They need spaces like this.
That seems fine and dandy for the thin light rain, but what about when it gets thicker in the winter and doesn't run so easy
I'm amazed you got a hole saw to bore through tin and only broke two pilot bits!
Una lluvia fuerte el agua va a salir de la canaleta
thoughtful & thorough work.
Pánové ty okapové plechy se dávají po spádu vody máte to obráceně 😭
might want to get a gutter net on that, otherwise birds can end up clogging it and that can cause so real damage.
Nice farm and place to live ! I would not trust silicon too much. On roof tiles it kept the joint for 1-2 years. On zinc ??? The metal is getting pretty hot under the sun. If silicon does not ensure integrity, you will only face dropping here and there. Watch the strings for rust as it can split the stone. My return from Lorraine. Have fun !
Why not solder the joints? That’s what we do here in Denmark?
Bonsoir les murs en moellon sont interdit dans les maisons anciennes sur tout cette maison qui à étais Construites 1732 .
Why the fucking destruction of a bird's nest?
Sorry guys, but it hurts a little to see this. The gutters actually have to be twisted into each other, for example. If it rains heavily, the rainwater will surely shoot over the gutter. Maybe a roofer will give you some free tips next time.
Všetko super, odkvapové žľaby. No koleno s odpadovou rúrou by malo byť v pravom uhle na žľab a stenu, tam nie je pravý uhol a to je menšia chyba, podľa mňa :) Ale pekná práca, palec hore :)
Crickey....there was a hildabeast ad.
Hideous
ottimo lavoro io avrei optato per un canale piu grande comunque bravi
I have to hand it to you, your workshop has the best conditions to realize ideas.
I only have a modest little one to show for it - but for my needs it's quite enough.
Maybe this year at Christmas there will be one or the other woodworking machine
as a gift.
A little oil which you clean off later with acetone would go a long way to keeping your drill bits intact. Simply sleeving the threaded bar into a tube/pipe would give you a way to adjust the guttering horizontally, as well. Consider patenting that guttering method and selling it as a kit on-line. It's incredibly useful for all sorts of buildings.
thats a nice idea. might have to steal it!
@@carlroge steal away. It'd be an honour seeing that little idea go in to production.
Here 3 years later and still no cool underground water tank :(
Watch your long sleve shirts ??? power tools etc .
Hi Carl, is this renovation for yourselves or is it for a client?
This whole roof & gutters are are going to leak so much !