I've been in the snow removal business for 30 years, and I think Toro is really on to something there, with this multiattatcment machine, it's so versatile, and the maneuverability of the plow attachment combined with the hydraulic controls is absolutely awesome, great video Stan!!
The value of this video/content is incredible. Awesome content, I have been watching Dirt Monkey content for a couple years now. Keep up the good work! Who would have thought... lawnmower, plow, snow-blower, broom, etc. all in one machine that can be conveniently stowed away. Plus ease of maintenance. What an amazing piece of equipment.
Hey Stan! Great video. I’m glad you did a video on the Multiforce. I have one and this winter is my first winter on it. It took about 2-3 snow events to get used to the controls, but once i had it done oh boy was I going fast. I ended up putting tire chains over the snow tires and wheel weights to give it more traction. Because I live in northwestern ontario up in Canada (about 4 hours from Duluth btw), we get a ton of snow up here (like 4-5 feet each winter). And the chains helped a lot, but in my opinion for most guys who are going to be using it in the states the traction will be just fine for the amount of snow they got. I decided to go with the Multiforce instead of a plow on my truck because I didnt want to deal with the extra maintenance and insurance costs of plow trucks. Overall, I am very pleased with my unit, and I recommend them to anyone who is on the fence. I had my doubts when I bought it but I wasn’t disappointed!!!
i priced one here and it was exspensive comaring to the 14.5hp dr field and brush mower with ,lawnmower,blade,blower,chipper,brush hog attachments are $5,898 for 5 in 1 multipurpose
@@LAKESIDEBOB1 I imagine you could just use heated liners for motorcycle riders plugged into the DC port. That gear will make you sweat at 60mph in the mid 30s outside riding with it on medium. Pretty cheap version at cycle gear too.
I live right by Erie Pennsylvania and we get a lot of snow here as well just because you are farther north don't always mean you get more snow. We measure it in feet also. We get a lot of lake effect snow.
That is one BAD ASS Machine. Spencer uses his in the last 4 storms and that thing will push some snow . It's good for doing sidewalks and small areas . Tnxs for including us in your life by posting these videos...
I love watching this channel, and I’m in sunny Florida. But my sister-in-law does live in Maple Grove with her family. Nice to see the difference in weather
I love the idea of a toro stand on with a plow! Spencer Lawn Care have used these alot in the past few snow events, they seem like pretty neat machines! Would love to try one out! Hope you will have a great weekend! Stay warm & safe out there! Keep up the great wrok!
They are using the Multiforce at their big commercial property and it seems like it does really well getting snow out and away from the curb and is also perfect for sidewalk clearing from what I have seen on their videos.
So in my opinion there great they work awesome the issue is getting them there it’s such a pain to tow in nasty storms so like for my company we have a huge condo we keep two of them there all winter that works great but if you have to tow it around like spencer does it really becomes a pain definitely for us because 90% of are trucks we have salters on and the trucks without salters have drag plows but if you can leave it where your using it there great
Spencer is only using toro because he was bought out by Toro and Kohler Co... he's even been given vacations at the cost of those companies. Ask him how many machines were given to him for free, his company would be no where near what it is today if he didn't get those handouts, the rest of us have to build our company from scratch, luckily for me I have the 30 years of experience where I learned from my mistakes and what wors and what doesn't Spencer has had his whole operation handed to him on a silver plate including the software on how to even run his company.
@@MrBigblueford really? We’ll to think where he is if that’s true and he really has had all that handed to him he should be doing better then he is I mean he’s not doing bad but he’s definitely not doing good for everything you say he’s had handed to him. I don’t watch him to much anymore I use to watch him all the time when he first started on RUclips. I’m way to busy to watch anyone that much anymore lol. I work full time plus for myself I’m building up a company now myself
I own several Toro pieces of lawn equipment my favorite being my Wheel horse 8-25. That being said Toro seems like a great company to work with and the content they provide to you for us is also top notch. Can't wait to get more of their stuff my myself!
When i use to do snow removal i always used a grain shovel.they are like a scoop shovel but all 1 piece lite weight and does not brake.also we used something like the man plow but little different it was a 2.5-3ft plastic plow that is angled with a wheels and a loop handle that flips direction
Lived in northern Michigan snow belt my whole life, have had years with 350” total. I know my way around a snow shovel (don’t know if that’s a good thing). Best snow shovel i have is “the snowplow, original snow pusher” shovel. Comes in 24”,36”, and 48”. If your only getting 2” maybe 3” I use the 48”, i can make quick work of my driveway with it. Once the lake snow really kicks in I switch to the blower and if I need a shovel at that point I use an old coal shovel. The snowpusher shovels are great for cleaning off the ice rink too. Above all they are made in the USA.
Snowcaster is my go to. Unless there's more than 3 in, and then I use a snowblower. For the detail work I have a true temper aluminum with steel edge. Great content as usual. Love your channel.
I'm in Richfield and using this setup for the first winter. I love this machine. I do a couple churches with lots of sidewalks. I use it to cut curbs and light poles. Then we do the neighborhood accounts wit it. It scrapes better than my back drag. One draw back so far is the sidewalks are built up now and I can't get over the top. So they are getting skinnier. The cold is the other. But I went from needing 3 people to do the walks to just one. I believe someone could start a business with this machine. We fight over it
Have you considered using heated motorcycle gear? Cycle gear has a in house brand that's pretty cheap for heated liners and it's kept me warm (high will make you sweat on the highway easily) riding motorcycles at 60+ when it's 30 out.
I've never ran one but from this video is looks like the Ultimate machine for residential properties. The only issues I'd see is pissing everyone off at 3am for how loud it is and you'll have some frozen operators at the end of the night. Otherwise that machine out performed my expectations
If they are also shoveling those entrance walks and a little smaller driveways. It might be about the right balance. We picked up a Snowrator this year and are trying to figure out it’s strengths. Maybe the Toro is a good step 1: shovel walks and fist “plow” pass out and away from the garages along with faster transportation between units.
It probably has a extra add on for another hefty price for a heated cab 😂 JK. by the time you add broom plow smaller plow, and any other add on. This thing could get pricy.. oh I forgot the led lights and side blinker. All seriousness its pretty cool machine.
Boy your pretty fast learner on that their new machine. Amazing how you can pick that control work up so fast, looks like it works very good cleans to the concrete .
Andy u do realize that the only reason why he uses them is because he's been bought our by toro to use them. Toro ships him free equipment on a regular basis whereas the rest of us would be buying that same machine not to mention that when he does his videos he fails to toss in fact that the equipment is sponsoring his videos. Little loophole he's been failing to acknowledge in his videos but he often times admits that toro has given him machinery like his toro 6000, it was a $14,000.00 just outright given to him but he did not disclose it on his utube channel... so when u see him running that equipment some of ut has been given to him - ask urself if he would be in the same position with equipment If he had to buy all that equipment - probably not...
I don't know how other people do it but I test ALL BRANDS, all equipment and show what it can and Can't do. Companies CAN"T PAY me to change how their machines work. So consequently some companies WON'T WORK with me. But many do- and normally what that says is they are confident enough in their equipment to not worry about how it performs. They send me what they know WORKS!
Small world! I've been working for bryan since late autumn and using the grandstand plows have been amazing. Cool to another company get there hands on one!
Love the machine bought one for my landscape company in fall of 2020 so second winter using it. Has great manuverability in tight spaces has cut are commercial sidewalk and residential snow crews day by 2-3 hours and after a 10-11 hour day they are happy to avoid the last 3! We did have to go to the 4' snow plow to fit on residential side walks and one down side is they need to make a quick coupler for the lower hydrologic connection you loss half the hydrologic oil in the change over from mower to plow this may have changed on the 2021-22 model year. We also are going to look into if they have a front weight kit are PA sleet and ice storms have proven twice now to lift the plow up instead of cutting through thank you for your review it's nice to see someone else give thoughts and opinions on the multi force
Also you asked about price point 12,400 for 60'' inch mower deck 52" would be less and around 4,000 for all the plow set up as I said we spent 230 extra for the 4 ft boss plow. But much has changed in 2 years!
I’d say 4” or less this is pretty useful. As a sidewalk machine as well. However if I’m assuming correctly on the price you’re better off in a skid steer with a plow you’d have those drives done in 2.5 mins tops. Skids also useful year round too. If you only do lawn care and snow though this could be helpful. If you have a skid steer though probably not the move.
What thickness of UHMW did you go with? I’ve done a bunch of 1/4 thickness * 2”. It seams a little heavy. @Stanley “Dirt Monkey” Genadek I love my 27” inch ergonomic double bender (custom old school bend) for my height, aluminum handle, soft D handle shovels for the lighter fluffy snows. For the heavy snows I grab a skinnier double bend shovel. For the really light fluffy lake effects snow I go the the 48” straight handle on the open areas we hand shovel.
We just had the blizzard of "22" here in New England 24+". My site we used lawn mower with a plow attachment (manual lift and angle). I like this Toro for the lift feature. Would have spead up our times considerably. Shoveler would push a foot or two away from building, mower/plow next couple of feet, then I would push rest into the piles. That would get single parking spaces nicely. Going to try and recommend to my company. How much are they? Wish I could multiple thumbs up. 👍👍👍👍👍here you go.
I bought a Snowcaster wheeled snow pusher, and really love it. It is angled like a plow and is very light, yet durable. Not the best for heavy/wet/deep snow., but great for everything else.
@@Dirtmonkey I saw they came out with a heavier duty one with a more durable plastic for the cutting edge, and its such a simple design I think it may last quite long with a metal handle and durable plastic blade and support
Poly pro scoop shovel is my favorite, then a transfer shovel that’s metal, and fir light snow, a the snowplow pusher shovel. In the mountains, we normally get a ton of deep snow, so it’s really a blower game, and a lifting game, since you can’t really “plow” a foot+ of snow.
I enjoyed watching you i just got a fourwheeler and i welded and bilt a snow blade for it have never owed snow with a four wheeler excited for it to snow so i can plow my drive way and tey it i think it will be fun beings though i love to ride my fourwheeler im retired and have lots of time to plow ride and enjoy my fourwheeler thanks for the channel fun to watch you
Stan the only snow shovel I like is the one someone else is using .I like heat that’s why I bought my Bobcat S70 last year I loved cab run a 36” bucket for sidewalks and a 60” for open areas. Toro a nice machine though 👍
With that amount of snow it looks like the back dragging only works for a short distance before too much gets pulled up behind the blade. But with these units you almost have to and can change your approach to clearing a residential driveway. Just back drag enough to get this smaller unit turned around to plow the snow forward away from the garage. Or turn 90 degrees and plow towards the sides of the driveway. You can't do that last one with even a small truck. Just wish the price wasn't through the roof.
Thanks for taking the time to film this review! It definitely did much better than I expected! One thing I noticed the blade appeared to have some down force while you were back blading does it push down? Another surprise was the amazing traction it had. If you mentioned it I didn’t hear, what size and brand of engine does it have and do they offer engine options? I believe this would be very cost efficient to anyone who has Condominium contacts and HOA’s or 10 or 15 or more back to back driveways no insurance no registration much less fuel expense than any truck available! Yes I enjoy the comfort of a warm truck and soft seat too, but I enjoy spending less money to do the same job which in turn would make me more money just have to layer up with too pair of long john’s a snow suit a good thermal hat and good pair of snow gloves and I think the extra money earned is worth the discomfort. As for wet and heavier snow as long as the engine has the power to push snow chains ⛓ will keep you going. I’m very interested to see how it does for you, I will definitely be watching out for your next video putting this Toro to the test! Thank you again Mr. Snow Monkey 🙈🙉🙊 have fun stay safe! Jay Bird 🦅 N.Y.S.
They do have down pressure. It will lift the front wheels off the ground. Some people use this to transfer more weight to the back giving you more traction.
Depends on what I'm shoveling, the pusher flat blades work nice for powder, but for somewhat packed or ice layer snow the worn out cheap shovels work good especially when they wear in a point it gets under the ice and breaks it out
The Multi Force performs phenomenal in the winter. However the constant exposure to moisture and salt starts to present issues in the summer when cutting grass.
That's a great new tool it would be better with hand warmers a like you said Stan chains would be a great addition better yet if you could get the tires studded then that would move some snow love the videos keep them coming
If I have to manually clear a driveway with New England snow I would have a snow scoop. Grain shovels are good for deep snow on walkways or just banks, a pusher shovel is good for small storms. I have a plow on my truck for customer driveways, I use a tractor snowblower on mine and my neighbors. I had a tractor plow, it was by far the most fun and quick, but I ran out of room after a couple big storms and bought the blower. Now I only use it early season then after mounting the blower it stays until spring. I have the plow as backup, and now also have a broom. I only used the broom on snow once just to see, I’ve used my backpack blower 3 times for light small storms. The broom is for removing sand from lawns in the spring.
hi there good for schools where there may be lots of sidewalks but that worm truck cab sure looks nice . do you know if boss makes that plow to fit other z turn mowers good video john
Toro uses cheaper hydrostatic "pump" transmissions. It's why I refuse to buy one and I went with the heavier duty Kubota machines as they are hydrostatic "gear" transmissions. If u just look at the difference on a new Kubota 1211 or a 1511 in comparison to a toro machine u can see a night and day difference but the offset is guys have to be willing to spend 20,000 on a Kubota that will last in excess of 15 years. Thr trade off is that every couple years guys are having to throw away the toro cuz thr pump transmission gave out whereas the gear transmissions last forever... as they say u get what u pay for.
It did better than I thought it would especially when you back dragging and all the snow was under it I thought you were going to be stuck I like that the plow comes up high you can really pile the snow up yeah I would like to have it in Pennsylvania on my jobs
Looks like a pretty good machine. Even did pretty well in the traction department. Maybe you will get a heavy snow to try it out in and see how it does there. I was even impressed with the back dragging it did.
Looks awesome if you're doin sub divisions and have a crew. I love that you can dig into real tight areas with it. I'll be curious how it holds up in a wetter snow, like what we tend to get over here.
Yeah I'm not too sure about that but definitely works well with this fluffy stuff! Sometimes we get heavier snow but I haven't tried this machine out with it..yet
If you have a high number of customers in a small residential area, it is hard to beat a tractor with an inverted pull type snowblower for clearing snow from driveways.
@@bwillan I agree, I actually use my compact loader almost exclusively on my residential properties. Average distance between properties is 5 blocks and I simply drive machine to each job as the machine does 12 mph in high gear. Beats the heck out of freezing my u know what off on back of machine (I have heated cab too) and loading machine up after each job. When done with property I toss machine into high gear and just fly down road to next property but it comes at a cost that most smaller guys can't afford.
The Spencer’s love there toro multi doe e worth the splotchy, i think it was a great purchase o their part for getting one, i want one myself now lol, but I would get it worth the light kit like wha Spencer got on his. That thing is sweet man, i like the innovation toro is really bringing to the market. Oh and Stan, as it stand, 1 foot to 15 inches of snow is what were gonna be getting form this nor’easter , bug storm with cold air and vicious winds. And tonight we had some of the best homemade tacos. Love me a good homemade taco. Well Stan, you have. Great night, god bless and go get em, your pal Alexander costa
OK Stanley, my turn to comment. lol At the 1:00 minute mark you were clearing the snow off the trailer. I got a new way for you to clear that snow and it is easier. Last Sunday & Monday we had a couple inch snow fall. This snow fall was actually light and fluffy. When I went out, I said to myself. Hmm I am going to try something. I got my Stihl BR 899-c out and I cleared all the snow with the backpack blower. It didn't really take me that much longer only when I had a bigger driveway, but I would use my leaf blower again without problems. So, give that a try next time you have to clear a trailer. The issue I can see with the Toro is it works but what happens when you have pushed so much snow that you have a 4-5 ft mound how would you be able to clear snow after that? That is an advantage I see with a blower because you can blow the snow into the grass or ditch, and you don't have to worry about as much of a buildup. I am getting ready for another snow fall this Wednesday/Thursday. Blow the snow and make that dough!!! (Mr. Brian Fullerton) lol Also have you ever tore apart a boat. Yes, I said boat. I have a 1972 Pacemaker 32ft boat. When the guy bought the house, the boat came with the house. The engines, out boards and everything needs to be replaced and there is no trailer for it either. I am in talks about tearing the bot apart and throwing it in the dumpster. I will scrap the motors out for sure but we are trying to figure out the best way to tear the boat apart. Any suggestions?
That is definitely a all year machine, I'm impressed with how well it did. I was expecting it to work fine in a couple inches of snow but really struggle in the snow you were using it in. In a tight subdivision like that it seems to me like it would work well working it with the pickup where you clean the driveways with the Toro and push the snow into the street then use the pickup to pile it up. Plus the snow broom would be great for sidewalks
It seems like a nice tool to have, but I wonder about the noise factor. I'm glad you did this at night because it made we wonder how the neighbors felt about this noisy machine cruising through the neighborhood. I know most people would frown upon someone running a lawn mower at night. Could you use this for residential contract work at night?
favorite shovel = when i was 14 i was in JA and for our project we made snow shovels they look like the old style ones but with a twist they have a oak handle and a titanium blade. the 2 i have still look new and are 38 yrs old. the only thing i did was replace the bolts holding the blade to the handle with stainless. these shovels are mean they just need a squirt of pam & they are good all season.
Each of those led light pods cost $150 lol. We got one of these this year (sans lights) and it's been awesome for sidewalks, and just framing out tight areas.
I still use my old Sears garden tractor!! Manual blade, but it's not bad to lift and lower. Or tilt. Crazy I have one that's older than me and still works great! But we don't get much snow here in the mountains of TN like we used to.
Interesting competition, 8’ blade verses 5’ blade. Yet it still kept up. Nice machine for sidewalks, driveways, and tight areas. Would be interesting to see this thing on that apartment complex you service and there are a lot of things to get around.
Never plowed snow but grew up in the Midwest and done my share of shoveling. The machine make sense and like others have said good for tight areas and things a alike. But, transporting said machine with trailer for your plow route…. I would think time consuming maybe… and also what is your body worth when operating that machine in the cold environment where as you can be in a enclosed cab. Simply many variables of what it’s worth to you. Would it be good for large commercial sidewalk jobs… I’ll leave it to those who do this work regular in the cold winters. But yes it would be nice to see the blower in action.
They look good for light work and sidewalks. Due to it's light weight it may not do well in deep snow. Also all night standing and no heat in below zero weather. I would not want to be the operator.
Would like to see more of what this can do. I am getting very close to pulling the plug on one. From everything I am seeing, they are very efficient in tight areas.
We just got 32 inches in 8 hours and they didn't touch the sidewalks were we plow till the end of the snow fall and these thing pushed it no problem at all
WWFD - What Would Frankie Do? I love the $8 Walmart shovels also. I bought that man plow a couple years ago from Ballard online, snapped that handle off on a good push on the second use. I do not think it's worth it. But I had the style that had the side handles that you can throw the snow with. The 30", 36", and 48" hard white plastic pushers that you buy at Northern Tool or Acme Tool are awesome.
Looks like a decent snow mover. I can see some very cold operators who are grumpy as hell, within a few hours of use. Definitely best as a residential unit.
I use a lighter duty shovel similar to the man plow, but made of plastic, fits my sidewalk width perfectly. Anything more than an 1" I breakout the Toro 1028OXE, because I love to send the snow across the street.
I've been in the snow removal business for 30 years, and I think Toro is really on to something there, with this multiattatcment machine, it's so versatile, and the maneuverability of the plow attachment combined with the hydraulic controls is absolutely awesome, great video Stan!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wonder how the snow blower attachment works? For the deeper snow?
Toro picked a great partner. That really does move snow without the truck. Two plows one truck and a trailer.
agreed. It impressed me.
Man...wish I was closer to Toro! I'd always be out playing with their tools! Take care Stan...stay warm! Josh #stoneyridgefarmer
Hi Josh. You should come back up north and hang out for a few days and shoot some more videos when you have a chance.
The value of this video/content is incredible. Awesome content, I have been watching Dirt Monkey content for a couple years now. Keep up the good work!
Who would have thought... lawnmower, plow, snow-blower, broom, etc. all in one machine that can be conveniently stowed away. Plus ease of maintenance. What an amazing piece of equipment.
Yep pretty cool versatile little machine! Glad ya like it too
Hey Stan! Great video. I’m glad you did a video on the Multiforce. I have one and this winter is my first winter on it. It took about 2-3 snow events to get used to the controls, but once i had it done oh boy was I going fast. I ended up putting tire chains over the snow tires and wheel weights to give it more traction. Because I live in northwestern ontario up in Canada (about 4 hours from Duluth btw), we get a ton of snow up here (like 4-5 feet each winter). And the chains helped a lot, but in my opinion for most guys who are going to be using it in the states the traction will be just fine for the amount of snow they got.
I decided to go with the Multiforce instead of a plow on my truck because I didnt want to deal with the extra maintenance and insurance costs of plow trucks. Overall, I am very pleased with my unit, and I recommend them to anyone who is on the fence. I had my doubts when I bought it but I wasn’t disappointed!!!
Do you not freeze on it in the cold and windy days?????
i priced one here and it was exspensive comaring to the 14.5hp dr field and brush mower with ,lawnmower,blade,blower,chipper,brush hog attachments are $5,898 for 5 in 1 multipurpose
@@LAKESIDEBOB1 I imagine you could just use heated liners for motorcycle riders plugged into the DC port. That gear will make you sweat at 60mph in the mid 30s outside riding with it on medium. Pretty cheap version at cycle gear too.
I live right by Erie Pennsylvania and we get a lot of snow here as well just because you are farther north don't always mean you get more snow. We measure it in feet also. We get a lot of lake effect snow.
You guys get a average of 213cm and we get 256.5 on average so we get more snow it's a fact.
That is one BAD ASS Machine. Spencer uses his in the last 4 storms and that thing will push some snow . It's good for doing sidewalks and small areas . Tnxs for including us in your life by posting these videos...
Glad you like em!!
I love that thing. It really shines in tight areas. Does great on sidewalks too.
Yesssir!
The Toro seems to do a pretty darn good job. Thanks for sharing, Stan 👍👍👍👍👍😺🤗🐺
No problemo glad you like it too!
I love watching this channel, and I’m in sunny Florida. But my sister-in-law does live in Maple Grove with her family. Nice to see the difference in weather
The temp is mostly in the negatives, big difference I bet!
I love the idea of a toro stand on with a plow! Spencer Lawn Care have used these alot in the past few snow events, they seem like pretty neat machines! Would love to try one out! Hope you will have a great weekend! Stay warm & safe out there! Keep up the great wrok!
They are using the Multiforce at their big commercial property and it seems like it does really well getting snow out and away from the curb and is also perfect for sidewalk clearing from what I have seen on their videos.
Hope you get to try it out sometime, I think it's pretty awesome! Trying my best to stay warm out here lol 🥶 & you too! Have an awesome weekend
So in my opinion there great they work awesome the issue is getting them there it’s such a pain to tow in nasty storms so like for my company we have a huge condo we keep two of them there all winter that works great but if you have to tow it around like spencer does it really becomes a pain definitely for us because 90% of are trucks we have salters on and the trucks without salters have drag plows but if you can leave it where your using it there great
Spencer is only using toro because he was bought out by Toro and Kohler Co... he's even been given vacations at the cost of those companies. Ask him how many machines were given to him for free, his company would be no where near what it is today if he didn't get those handouts, the rest of us have to build our company from scratch, luckily for me I have the 30 years of experience where I learned from my mistakes and what wors and what doesn't Spencer has had his whole operation handed to him on a silver plate including the software on how to even run his company.
@@MrBigblueford really? We’ll to think where he is if that’s true and he really has had all that handed to him he should be doing better then he is I mean he’s not doing bad but he’s definitely not doing good for everything you say he’s had handed to him. I don’t watch him to much anymore I use to watch him all the time when he first started on RUclips. I’m way to busy to watch anyone that much anymore lol. I work full time plus for myself I’m building up a company now myself
I like it. Finally saw someone that knows how to plow snow. Thank you for the video
Glad to help
Nice to see one of these in a real video with knowledge about plowing with not being sponsored. Thanks
You bet
Great video, I'll be out plowing my route in the blizzard this weekend. We usually don't get decent storms on cape cod but we're looking at a big one.
Nice stay safe & warm out there!
Your content is great, I love how you put equipment to the test. Could watch this all day
Thanks Michel glad you enjoyed 👊
I own several Toro pieces of lawn equipment my favorite being my Wheel horse 8-25. That being said Toro seems like a great company to work with and the content they provide to you for us is also top notch. Can't wait to get more of their stuff my myself!
Very cool! I honestly love a lot of their equipment too
I hear they have pretty good quality equipment, compatible to Honda...?
@@michaelmaker8169 idk about Honda. I only can speak for toro, stihl, and my MTD stuff
The maneuverability alone would make me buy it great video!!
Right 😁
Best shovels are The Snow Plow poly snow pushers. Scrape clean and won't damage surface like a metal edge might
The multi-force has a great variety of uses. It’s a very smart way of productivity and works phenomenal. Toro for life!
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@@Dirtmonkey how was the new lawn mower doing
Good Evening Stan. Awesome tool. It's perfect for tight driveways and sidewalk. Have a good weekend.
Sure is! Thanks bud & you too
When i use to do snow removal i always used a grain shovel.they are like a scoop shovel but all 1 piece lite weight and does not brake.also we used something like the man plow but little different it was a 2.5-3ft plastic plow that is angled with a wheels and a loop handle that flips direction
Those are good tools.
Your angled plastic plow is a Snowcaster, or a generic version of it. I have the same thing. Works great.
YAY!! Love the snow videos. Thanks for uploading such great content. You’re the man.
You got it! & thanks 😊
Lived in northern Michigan snow belt my whole life, have had years with 350” total. I know my way around a snow shovel (don’t know if that’s a good thing). Best snow shovel i have is “the snowplow, original snow pusher” shovel. Comes in 24”,36”, and 48”. If your only getting 2” maybe 3” I use the 48”, i can make quick work of my driveway with it. Once the lake snow really kicks in I switch to the blower and if I need a shovel at that point I use an old coal shovel.
The snowpusher shovels are great for cleaning off the ice rink too. Above all they are made in the USA.
Snowcaster is my go to. Unless there's more than 3 in, and then I use a snowblower. For the detail work I have a true temper aluminum with steel edge. Great content as usual. Love your channel.
Right on, thanks for sharing 👊
Nice piece of machinery. Perfect for someone who makes a living doing this.
Exactly 👊
I'm in Richfield and using this setup for the first winter. I love this machine. I do a couple churches with lots of sidewalks. I use it to cut curbs and light poles. Then we do the neighborhood accounts wit it. It scrapes better than my back drag. One draw back so far is the sidewalks are built up now and I can't get over the top. So they are getting skinnier. The cold is the other. But I went from needing 3 people to do the walks to just one. I believe someone could start a business with this machine. We fight over it
Have you considered using heated motorcycle gear? Cycle gear has a in house brand that's pretty cheap for heated liners and it's kept me warm (high will make you sweat on the highway easily) riding motorcycles at 60+ when it's 30 out.
I've never ran one but from this video is looks like the Ultimate machine for residential properties. The only issues I'd see is pissing everyone off at 3am for how loud it is and you'll have some frozen operators at the end of the night. Otherwise that machine out performed my expectations
If they are also shoveling those entrance walks and a little smaller driveways. It might be about the right balance. We picked up a Snowrator this year and are trying to figure out it’s strengths. Maybe the Toro is a good step 1: shovel walks and fist “plow” pass out and away from the garages along with faster transportation between units.
It probably has a extra add on for another hefty price for a heated cab 😂 JK. by the time you add broom plow smaller plow, and any other add on. This thing could get pricy.. oh I forgot the led lights and side blinker. All seriousness its pretty cool machine.
Pretty wicked! The caution lights are nice. Heavy wet snow is the next test. Awesome video Stan. ❄☃️
It's will push it I am very impressed with these little machines.
Boy your pretty fast learner on that their new machine. Amazing how you can pick that control work up so fast, looks like it works very good cleans to the concrete .
Its basically the same controls as the lawnmowers. easy to pick up fast.
Love how bright the lights are!
Yeah- those lights are bright!
What a great machine, I would love one of those. Spencer lawn care uses the same machine. Great video, always love watching.
Andy u do realize that the only reason why he uses them is because he's been bought our by toro to use them. Toro ships him free equipment on a regular basis whereas the rest of us would be buying that same machine not to mention that when he does his videos he fails to toss in fact that the equipment is sponsoring his videos. Little loophole he's been failing to acknowledge in his videos but he often times admits that toro has given him machinery like his toro 6000, it was a $14,000.00 just outright given to him but he did not disclose it on his utube channel... so when u see him running that equipment some of ut has been given to him - ask urself if he would be in the same position with equipment If he had to buy all that equipment - probably not...
I don't know how other people do it but I test ALL BRANDS, all equipment and show what it can and Can't do. Companies CAN"T PAY me to change how their machines work. So consequently some companies WON'T WORK with me. But many do- and normally what that says is they are confident enough in their equipment to not worry about how it performs. They send me what they know WORKS!
Love your videos, from retaining wall repairs to lawn care and snow removal. You make it fun.
Thank you and thank you to TORO, for this.
I wonder if these attachments will ever come out for a sit down mower.
It would make sense in my opinion
Small world! I've been working for bryan since late autumn and using the grandstand plows have been amazing. Cool to another company get there hands on one!
Great to hear!
Cool handplow/snowshovel at the beginning. I live in tennessee and we usually don't get much snow. This year has been different.
Seems like a lot of snow this year where their normally isn't much.
Looks Great, Think the Snow Blower may work quicker, but with a box Blade on the front of it to pull the snow to the blower.
I like the "Snow Plow" shovels. Yellow handle and white poly blade... have a 2 ft, 3 ft, and 4 ft version for different kinds of events
Cool beans 👍
Love the machine bought one for my landscape company in fall of 2020 so second winter using it. Has great manuverability in tight spaces has cut are commercial sidewalk and residential snow crews day by 2-3 hours and after a 10-11 hour day they are happy to avoid the last 3! We did have to go to the 4' snow plow to fit on residential side walks and one down side is they need to make a quick coupler for the lower hydrologic connection you loss half the hydrologic oil in the change over from mower to plow this may have changed on the 2021-22 model year. We also are going to look into if they have a front weight kit are PA sleet and ice storms have proven twice now to lift the plow up instead of cutting through thank you for your review it's nice to see someone else give thoughts and opinions on the multi force
Also you asked about price point 12,400 for 60'' inch mower deck 52" would be less and around 4,000 for all the plow set up as I said we spent 230 extra for the 4 ft boss plow. But much has changed in 2 years!
I’d say 4” or less this is pretty useful. As a sidewalk machine as well. However if I’m assuming correctly on the price you’re better off in a skid steer with a plow you’d have those drives done in 2.5 mins tops. Skids also useful year round too. If you only do lawn care and snow though this could be helpful. If you have a skid steer though probably not the move.
I do a driveway in 45-60 seconds in a 6060 with an inverted blower. This here is what a well off homeowner plays with
For snow shovels, I riveted UHMW wear strips onto two of my shovels and they're incredibly long lasting.
Niiice!
@@Dirtmonkey can you make a lawn mowing video using the new lawn mower this spring
What thickness of UHMW did you go with? I’ve done a bunch of 1/4 thickness * 2”. It seams a little heavy.
@Stanley “Dirt Monkey” Genadek I love my 27” inch ergonomic double bender (custom old school bend) for my height, aluminum handle, soft D handle shovels for the lighter fluffy snows. For the heavy snows I grab a skinnier double bend shovel. For the really light fluffy lake effects snow I go the the 48” straight handle on the open areas we hand shovel.
@@natielou143 how are you
What a sweet machine Stan! Great video!
Thanks!
Thoroughly impressed by how it functioned.
Heck yeah 👊
The 2.00 shovel from the local habitat for humanity store works great and has for the last 2 winters
Woop, more snow videos! 😁
I was seriously bummed over how few of them there has been this winter.
Let it snoooow ❄️🙏
The cold never bothered you anyways? 😄
We never get snow in south Arkansas; yet i'm watching this video! love it!
Thank for watching!
I've become obsessed with watching you work and I can't quite figure out why lol.
We just had the blizzard of "22" here in New England 24+". My site we used lawn mower with a plow attachment (manual lift and angle).
I like this Toro for the lift feature. Would have spead up our times considerably. Shoveler would push a foot or two away from building, mower/plow next couple of feet, then I would push rest into the piles.
That would get single parking spaces nicely. Going to try and recommend to my company. How much are they?
Wish I could multiple thumbs up. 👍👍👍👍👍here you go.
I bought a Snowcaster wheeled snow pusher, and really love it. It is angled like a plow and is very light, yet durable. Not the best for heavy/wet/deep snow., but great for everything else.
Ive seen those. They seem pretty light for commercial work I think
@@Dirtmonkey I saw they came out with a heavier duty one with a more durable plastic for the cutting edge, and its such a simple design I think it may last quite long with a metal handle and durable plastic blade and support
Poly pro scoop shovel is my favorite, then a transfer shovel that’s metal, and fir light snow, a the snowplow pusher shovel. In the mountains, we normally get a ton of deep snow, so it’s really a blower game, and a lifting game, since you can’t really “plow” a foot+ of snow.
I enjoyed watching you i just got a fourwheeler and i welded and bilt a snow blade for it have never owed snow with a four wheeler excited for it to snow so i can plow my drive way and tey it i think it will be fun beings though i love to ride my fourwheeler im retired and have lots of time to plow ride and enjoy my fourwheeler thanks for the channel fun to watch you
It has such great traction because when you put the blade down, it transfers all the weight onto the back tires. It really seems to work well.
agreed
I'm amazed at the traction that has. Looks like it is very nibble also.
Stan the only snow shovel I like is the one someone else is using .I like heat that’s why I bought my Bobcat S70 last year I loved cab run a 36” bucket for sidewalks and a 60” for open areas. Toro a nice machine though 👍
Right on I feel it! Warmth is nice too
Wow what an amazing machine now instead of beat up my 2006 Silverado plowing I’m going to get that machine thank you Stanley
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My favorite machine. I rock it all year round and it doesn't let me down
With that amount of snow it looks like the back dragging only works for a short distance before too much gets pulled up behind the blade. But with these units you almost have to and can change your approach to clearing a residential driveway. Just back drag enough to get this smaller unit turned around to plow the snow forward away from the garage. Or turn 90 degrees and plow towards the sides of the driveway. You can't do that last one with even a small truck. Just wish the price wasn't through the roof.
Same thing I do with my mini skid. Back drag 10 feet then turn around and push
Thanks for taking the time to film this review! It definitely did much better than I expected! One thing I noticed the blade appeared to have some down force while you were back blading does it push down? Another surprise was the amazing traction it had. If you mentioned it I didn’t hear, what size and brand of engine does it have and do they offer engine options? I believe this would be very cost efficient to anyone who has Condominium contacts and HOA’s or 10 or 15 or more back to back driveways no insurance no registration much less fuel expense than any truck available! Yes I enjoy the comfort of a warm truck and soft seat too, but I enjoy spending less money to do the same job which in turn would make me more money just have to layer up with too pair of long john’s a snow suit a good thermal hat and good pair of snow gloves and I think the extra money earned is worth the discomfort. As for wet and heavier snow as long as the engine has the power to push snow chains ⛓ will keep you going. I’m very interested to see how it does for you, I will definitely be watching out for your next video putting this Toro to the test! Thank you again Mr. Snow Monkey 🙈🙉🙊 have fun stay safe! Jay Bird 🦅 N.Y.S.
They do have down pressure. It will lift the front wheels off the ground. Some people use this to transfer more weight to the back giving you more traction.
Depends on what I'm shoveling, the pusher flat blades work nice for powder, but for somewhat packed or ice layer snow the worn out cheap shovels work good especially when they wear in a point it gets under the ice and breaks it out
Feel that, it definitely depends on what you're working with
The Multi Force performs phenomenal in the winter. However the constant exposure to moisture and salt starts to present issues in the summer when cutting grass.
Only issue I’ve had since 2018 is rust
@@shawnkinney717 Do you wash your machine off after each event?
@@Traindude15 yes I definitely do but the water freezes on it. If I get another I’d ceramic coat it first
‘The Snowplow” snow pusher is my favorite! I have a 48” and 24” great combos together
Very cool!
That's a great new tool it would be better with hand warmers a like you said Stan chains would be a great addition better yet if you could get the tires studded then that would move some snow love the videos keep them coming
You can also get a heavy foam fill and studs. A little harsher ride but the weight is nice.
If I have to manually clear a driveway with New England snow I would have a snow scoop. Grain shovels are good for deep snow on walkways or just banks, a pusher shovel is good for small storms.
I have a plow on my truck for customer driveways, I use a tractor snowblower on mine and my neighbors. I had a tractor plow, it was by far the most fun and quick, but I ran out of room after a couple big storms and bought the blower. Now I only use it early season then after mounting the blower it stays until spring. I have the plow as backup, and now also have a broom. I only used the broom on snow once just to see, I’ve used my backpack blower 3 times for light small storms. The broom is for removing sand from lawns in the spring.
sounds like you have your season and equipment dialed in.
hi there good for schools where there may be lots of sidewalks but that worm truck cab sure looks nice . do you know if boss makes that plow to fit other z turn mowers good video john
No I don't think they do
I'm interested in seeing how well the drivetrain and transmission hold up over time with that level of stress.
Yeah me too id love to hear about the headaches too
Toro uses cheaper hydrostatic "pump" transmissions. It's why I refuse to buy one and I went with the heavier duty Kubota machines as they are hydrostatic "gear" transmissions. If u just look at the difference on a new Kubota 1211 or a 1511 in comparison to a toro machine u can see a night and day difference but the offset is guys have to be willing to spend 20,000 on a Kubota that will last in excess of 15 years. Thr trade off is that every couple years guys are having to throw away the toro cuz thr pump transmission gave out whereas the gear transmissions last forever... as they say u get what u pay for.
good point
My favorite snow shovel is one that someone else is using - can't wait for spring
well said
It did better than I thought it would especially when you back dragging and all the snow was under it I thought you were going to be stuck I like that the plow comes up high you can really pile the snow up yeah I would like to have it in Pennsylvania on my jobs
it surprised me as well.!
Also, I would love to see the blower attachment used with this baby. I just fell in love. Lol
Looks like a pretty good machine. Even did pretty well in the traction department. Maybe you will get a heavy snow to try it out in and see how it does there. I was even impressed with the back dragging it did.
It did back drag very well.
Wow that Toro performed way above my expectations Stan! Barring the frigid temps I would totally rather have the Toro. More fun!
Agreed they're a lot more fun! Just dress in layers 😅👍
Looks awesome if you're doin sub divisions and have a crew. I love that you can dig into real tight areas with it. I'll be curious how it holds up in a wetter snow, like what we tend to get over here.
Yeah I'm not too sure about that but definitely works well with this fluffy stuff! Sometimes we get heavier snow but I haven't tried this machine out with it..yet
If you have a high number of customers in a small residential area, it is hard to beat a tractor with an inverted pull type snowblower for clearing snow from driveways.
@@bwillan I agree, I actually use my compact loader almost exclusively on my residential properties. Average distance between properties is 5 blocks and I simply drive machine to each job as the machine does 12 mph in high gear. Beats the heck out of freezing my u know what off on back of machine (I have heated cab too) and loading machine up after each job. When done with property I toss machine into high gear and just fly down road to next property but it comes at a cost that most smaller guys can't afford.
Works just as good in wet snow. Tend to have to angle a little bit but it can still push a ton for what it is.
Great video! Leave it to Toro to come up with a machine that does it all. Can't believe the traction you get with just on drive axle. I am impressed!
I was too! Stoked 👍
Amazing video Stan. Now that we saw what it can do. Would you do a video demo on the Boss snow rator? Stand force vs Boss rator video?
I think it performed well. I'd love to see it with a blower as needed. Just to help with stacking
Good idea
Gotta go check out Spencer lawn care; they have one with plow & one with snow blower.
Great video. Any links to the model and both plow and snow thrower attachment links
The blower is good but even slower than the plow but it does work and throw well
The Spencer’s love there toro multi doe e worth the splotchy, i think it was a great purchase o their part for getting one, i want one myself now lol, but I would get it worth the light kit like wha Spencer got on his. That thing is sweet man, i like the innovation toro is really bringing to the market. Oh and Stan, as it stand, 1 foot to 15 inches of snow is what were gonna be getting form this nor’easter , bug storm with cold air and vicious winds. And tonight we had some of the best homemade tacos. Love me a good homemade taco. Well Stan, you have. Great night, god bless and go get em, your pal Alexander costa
OK Stanley, my turn to comment. lol At the 1:00 minute mark you were clearing the snow off the trailer. I got a new way for you to clear that snow and it is easier. Last Sunday & Monday we had a couple inch snow fall. This snow fall was actually light and fluffy. When I went out, I said to myself. Hmm I am going to try something. I got my Stihl BR 899-c out and I cleared all the snow with the backpack blower. It didn't really take me that much longer only when I had a bigger driveway, but I would use my leaf blower again without problems. So, give that a try next time you have to clear a trailer.
The issue I can see with the Toro is it works but what happens when you have pushed so much snow that you have a 4-5 ft mound how would you be able to clear snow after that? That is an advantage I see with a blower because you can blow the snow into the grass or ditch, and you don't have to worry about as much of a buildup.
I am getting ready for another snow fall this Wednesday/Thursday. Blow the snow and make that dough!!! (Mr. Brian Fullerton) lol
Also have you ever tore apart a boat. Yes, I said boat. I have a 1972 Pacemaker 32ft boat. When the guy bought the house, the boat came with the house. The engines, out boards and everything needs to be replaced and there is no trailer for it either. I am in talks about tearing the bot apart and throwing it in the dumpster. I will scrap the motors out for sure but we are trying to figure out the best way to tear the boat apart. Any suggestions?
Sick video Stan, keep up the good work!
Thank ryan 👊
That is definitely a all year machine, I'm impressed with how well it did. I was expecting it to work fine in a couple inches of snow but really struggle in the snow you were using it in. In a tight subdivision like that it seems to me like it would work well working it with the pickup where you clean the driveways with the Toro and push the snow into the street then use the pickup to pile it up. Plus the snow broom would be great for sidewalks
good point
What up, Wow That machine is nice but makes 2" much noise wake up all neighbors 😜👍
it is noisy
That baby looks dialed in !! 👌
Great video guys ❄️
For sure 👊 thanks man!
As always killer video.. wish I lived there I'd love to plow snow as a side job. Music always epic. Keep em coming stan
I use one of these setup the same almost everytime it snows for commercial sidewalks.
Looks like a homelite tractor with a plow on it. I loved that in the 80's.
It seems like a nice tool to have, but I wonder about the noise factor. I'm glad you did this at night because it made we wonder how the neighbors felt about this noisy machine cruising through the neighborhood. I know most people would frown upon someone running a lawn mower at night. Could you use this for residential contract work at night?
With the noise level created by most plow trucks I don't think this is all that noisy.
favorite shovel = when i was 14 i was in JA and for our project we made snow shovels they look like the old style ones but with a twist they have a oak handle and a titanium blade. the 2 i have still look new and are 38 yrs old. the only thing i did was replace the bolts holding the blade to the handle with stainless. these shovels are mean they just need a squirt of pam & they are good all season.
Those are the best ones all day and night.
Each of those led light pods cost $150 lol. We got one of these this year (sans lights) and it's been awesome for sidewalks, and just framing out tight areas.
I still use my old Sears garden tractor!! Manual blade, but it's not bad to lift and lower. Or tilt. Crazy I have one that's older than me and still works great! But we don't get much snow here in the mountains of TN like we used to.
No wheel weights, but have antifreeze in back tires.. been in there since I got if from my dad 20 years ago...lol
That antifreeze trick is pretty cool.
@@Dirtmonkey it works really good. Of course if you can put something like RV antifreeze that's non toxic it would be better if you ever had a flat
Interesting competition, 8’ blade verses 5’ blade. Yet it still kept up. Nice machine for sidewalks, driveways, and tight areas.
Would be interesting to see this thing on that apartment complex you service and there are a lot of things to get around.
It is a good attachment for the home owner. Your videos of the back mount snow box would be the fastest way to do the drive ways.
Never plowed snow but grew up in the Midwest and done my share of shoveling. The machine make sense and like others have said good for tight areas and things a alike. But, transporting said machine with trailer for your plow route…. I would think time consuming maybe… and also what is your body worth when operating that machine in the cold environment where as you can be in a enclosed cab.
Simply many variables of what it’s worth to you. Would it be good for large commercial sidewalk jobs… I’ll leave it to those who do this work regular in the cold winters. But yes it would be nice to see the blower in action.
Love that new treadmill..lol I like my $20 Sam's Club shovel. The Toro is a cool machine but I'll stick with my warm truck with a radio.😁👍🇺🇲
Thats a warmer way for sure.
I use a shovel called the “snowplow”. More of a pusher than a traditional shovel. They are built great and work even better.
They look good for light work and sidewalks. Due to it's light weight it may not do well in deep snow. Also all night standing and no heat in below zero weather. I would not want to be the operator.
Would like to see more of what this can do. I am getting very close to pulling the plug on one. From everything I am seeing, they are very efficient in tight areas.
We just got 32 inches in 8 hours and they didn't touch the sidewalks were we plow till the end of the snow fall and these thing pushed it no problem at all
You can also find V PLOWS for them
Yeah I am going to look into these a lot closer. Really like what I am seeing and hearing.
WWFD - What Would Frankie Do?
I love the $8 Walmart shovels also.
I bought that man plow a couple years ago from Ballard online, snapped that handle off on a good push on the second use. I do not think it's worth it. But I had the style that had the side handles that you can throw the snow with.
The 30", 36", and 48" hard white plastic pushers that you buy at Northern Tool or Acme Tool are awesome.
WWFD 🤣👍👍
Love the videos, I've always wanted to do something similar and install a plow on my ATV, to plow driveways,
That'd be cool! I think you should go for it
Looks like a decent snow mover. I can see some very cold operators who are grumpy as hell, within a few hours of use. Definitely best as a residential unit.
Thanks so much stan and guys! Love the look of that thing
Its a blast to run for sure.
Very cool. I was very surprised how good the traction was.
Me too!
I use a lighter duty shovel similar to the man plow, but made of plastic, fits my sidewalk width perfectly. Anything more than an 1" I breakout the Toro 1028OXE, because I love to send the snow across the street.
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Being disabled, my favorite shovel is whatever helps the maintenance crew get the job done best. 👍
That works to!
Great video Stan 🇺🇲 great piece of equipment