NOISELESS METAL TONES: Decimator G String vs Silencer vs NS2 Noise Suppressors
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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ISP Decimator II G String vs Electro Harmonix Silencer vs BOSS NS-2 Noise Suppressor
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I love the tones and the playing on this channel, but as another commenter said as well, only utilizing the threshold on the EHX and NS2 doesn't put them in their best light. I think getting all the pedals to their best setup and then comparing would have made this much more useful.
random picked my EHX Silencer of all Noise gates just days ago, and this vid made me feel glad i did.
I am very happy to have found your channel. Someone playing music like I play! That's what I want to see tested.
I came here to second that motion
I was pretty much decided on the EH, but this just confirms it to me.
I wrote this before you started giving a narrative, it's funny as I preferred the decay of the EH over all of them.
My younger brother has The Silencer, I have the Decimator II G-String. Very well done comparison test, I agree with everything this man said! The Silencer is the best cheaper option, I decided to spend the extra coin to get what I wanted.
Very good comparison with just the right level of detail and sound demo and not too much small talk before and after. Very much helps me decide which noise gate I will use to replace my cheap one.
Great video! This truly is a good demonstration of functionality. I own all three pedals and I concur with the assessment 100%.
Your sugest?
GREAT review !!! THIS is how they should all be done ...... including the reviews opinions , which is many times left out . VERY helpful !!! Thanks !!!!
I settled on the Silencer because it is cheap and does the job well. Thank you for this great demo, really fantastic!
Cheers from The Netherlands
Your video is probably one of the biggest reasons I bought the EHX Silencer. Thanks!!!
Patrick Schilcher How is it?
@@jaychen2000metal Nice. Pretty damn happy with it and the used price was excellent.
Does it kill feedback squeal?
@@jaychen2000metal Any update on that matter?
@@saintjabroni isp decimator 2 into the front of the amp took care of unwanted squeal/feedback
Guys we have another vid comparing the ISP against the new TC Electronic Sentry Gate!
Link in description.
I have had a Flashback , a Corona Chorus , and an M1 ..... ALL now non functional ..... I am 59 and have played since 69,,,,,,, NEVER had any other pedal manufacturers pedal malfunction. ISP is used by MANY MANY pro players..... Do not know of ANY using TC sentry gate , or any other TC pedals for that matter . Check out Rig rundowns of the pros and search in vain for TC pedals . NOT used by the pro's. ISP decimators new Decimate G is even better . Steve Stevens just did a rig rundown and added 2 of the new ones.
Ehx silencer is the best: that gives much sustain and color, just put the thresh roll over, the realese on 9 o'clock and reduction almost on 10-11 o'clock and all drives and distortions in the fx loop.
The best and cheaper.
porfa, explicamelo en español, porque yo lo tengo y me pasa igual que en el video, dejo de tocar y 4 seg despues se calla el sonido, gracias compañero
I disagree. ISP was the first. And always been the best noise gate pedals..American made.
@@RisvoldTheGreat ruclips.net/video/Sen0llNsJIQ/видео.html
Antonio, buenas. Tengo un EHX silencer con un metal muff y aún no logró crear un silencio aceptable. Si puedes enviamé tu settiing.
@@RisvoldTheGreat electro harmonix made a version of the silencer as far back as the 1970's and Boss made the NS-2 since the 1980s so I dunno where you're getting "ISP was the first" from. Decimator is a great pedal though.
best pedal comparison video on youtube. Thanks. Gonna get EHX
It really helps to make up my mind and gives me the clues I was after. thanks for sharing; excellent video.
Excellent comparison video I have two ISP's and the EXH.. I love them!
I have the first version ISP Decimator and it works better than any other I have tried...
I agree, the NS2 was not the best, the Decimator and the Silencer were noticeably better to my ears.
It's only 30 years old, lol. Agreed.
I think the issue here is the ISP has 1 knob and all other settings are predetermined for you. The boss's decay is almost set to 0, so thats clearly going to effect it's cut.
And the Silencer is just centered, which also isn't really well set.
This comparison isn't fair, or well set up. The Silencer and NS should be set up properly before comparing.
How do you set it so it doesn't cut the note off?
@@manicmurph The Boss , you don't...... the Silencer appears to work well . My ISP Decimator works flawlessly in this area. ISP is more expensive than the others for a reason . Top of the noise reduction pedals
I'd take the Boss ns2 for the price and because it does its job on rhytm as much as the Isp...only problem is on sustained single notes...but honeslty I don't see the point on using a noise suppressor/gate on leads.
This is actually a great point.
Don't search for extremely expensive gates that don't colour your tone, a gate will always change it a tinny bit depending on how it reduces noise bacause when you have a noisy guitar tone noise is a part of the signal and when you get rid of it your tone becomes more pure and will get louder by how mutch the noise the signal looses
Nice. Thanks dude, this was really helpful in my decision for a noise gate. Appreciate it.
I am torn about the EHX Silencer and the TC ELECTRONIC NOISE SENTRY. I have owned 2 BOSS NS-2 pedals. The first one was from '88 and the other 2013, when my first one died, I replaced it with another in 2013!.. The newest one has failed me, looks brand new still. I am moving in on. I am thinking the Noise Sentry is great, the EHX is a great price. My NS-2s never worked as good as the one in this video so. Moving on to a new one. Too bad the ISP Decimator II G string is overpriced! I actually found out that my NS-2 failure was due to a problem with another power supply from my mini-pedal board by my mic stand. I have a wah Digitech Drop for my electric signal. I use a TC ELECTRONIC BODY REZ and DOD eq for my piezo, completely different signal only used by my EBMM 7 string and Fender Nashville Tele with Powerbridge. . I solved the issue by removing one pedal from the daisy chain and powering it up separately. No my NS-2 is working right! I do plan to upgrade mine and save the NS-2 as a backup.
Wonderful review, dude! Thanks for taking the time to do this video.
Fellows, get the ISP decimator if you want to spend more money on a noise gate if not buy the silencer. I also recommend TC electronic sentry. Don't buy the noise gate. It colors your tone, making it more muddy and it does not kill the noise signal immediately as you stop. This is a big no* for metal players like myself or if you are looking for such type of noise cancelling for your music.
OMG You need more views. Great video and great timing. I just wish you had the T.c Sentry in this shootout. Great demo though.
Guess what...we just did it...the Sentry vs the Decimator. Link in the description!
thank you, now i have all 3
Excellent Review...thoughtful and real world situations. THANKS!!
Man, great review on these - thanks!
The Silencer sounds more transparent...The other two sound muddy by comparison
"This is for those who play with high gain."
*looks over at my HM-2*
"Alright then."
what? i couldn't hear you over the noise from my HM-2
You should try the Soph Gate, by Donner, cool video🇨🇦
I think increasing the decay knob on the boss would have made the note sustain even longer.
It does!
The ISP has proven to be useless for a lot of people. it is the only pedal that gathers dust, cannot even give it away.
@@tanker1960 But they look cool and are very shiney...hahaha...but seriously, I have heard they work really wsell WITH a Boss NS-2....The Decimator in the front of the amp. The NS-2 in the FX loop. That way you don't have to set eitrher one too high. An old Decimator just popped up for sale in my area at a decent price. You are saying not a good buy? Do you have any experience with the I.S.P?...I only have ever owned Boss and am wondering if I am missing something.
@@algrundau9441 You know, looking cool and shiny, cool graphics, etc. Has hooked a lot of unknowing musicians money and pedal collect dust because they look good and are completely worthless.
Check out some of the forums.
If you go with the ISP DECIMATOR and a BOSS NS 2, I pray that you have no issues whatsoever.
If you do, FORTIN Amplification to me has the answer, looking at FORTIN Amplification BOSS NS 2 Replacement. But since they came out, I have never had a issue with any of the BOSSES NS.
I'd beware, if they are selling them on the cheap, like me they are trying to get rid of it.
Like I said I cannot even give it away.
Great video very usefull. I think i am going to go with the silencer. Great playing !!
I am not a metal hesher, I play classic rock style but just as loud as metal, often at bar gigs. So I got classic Fender 60-70'sd amps with no effects loop on the back. I got one 2005 Marshall dsl 401 combo with effects loop on the back but I never used it yet, still trying to figure this stuff out. I played many years, just got into pedals a few years back and not doing very well with it. I understand music theory, and write and play tons of songs, but this pedal and electronic stuff is so much harder to understand for some reason. So is this pedal any good for loud medium gain classic rock tones, that is not super noisy high gain? I was thinking of getting the ISP G string. Seems odd that some guys say to put it before all pedals even before the tuner. I thought a tuner alway was the first pedal direct from the guitar.
One of the best reviews on RUclips.
Will you please review other noise gate pedals? Namely, Artec NGT-SE, Caline The Noise, Joyo Gate of Kahn, MXR Smart Gate and Noise Clamp, TC Electronic Iron Curtain, handmade noise gate pedals and epecially, the three DOD noise gate pedals (230, FX30 and FX30b)?
Thanks
MXR Smart gate es el peor de todos....
Silencer is like 90% as good as the Decimator for far less. The differences aren't worth the price difference.
The criticism he has for the silencer seems like it could be dialed out with the other two knobs he didn’t bother with
Great video! I'm looking for a Noise Gate myself and this was very helpful.
O Silencer da EHX pra mim foi o melhor de todos.
gotta use that release knob on the silencer
great video. you tested the most relevant situations. nice work
I just bought the ISP decimator ii for 170$, its the best one , the NS 2 which is 140$ is just not worth it
I have the Silencer, for me, the Threshold should be around noon to make the gate close faster, you only had it at 10oclock that's why it's kinda slow. 😁
I hate when RUclipsrs compare boosts, overdrives, noise gates etc. and their settings are lower than on their favorites. Lol
I don't know why but you're my new hero
3:39 The Boss NS-2 reduces your sustain because you have set too much Threshold.
But the Decimator kills more noise, faster, AND had infinite sustain unlike the zilch sustain of the NS-2....so the issue is the NS-2, not the threshold knob setting, no? sure you could fix it by reducing it, but then you'd be reducing EVEN LESS noise than the decimator does....i feel sad that i own an ns-2 now. i wish i didnt buy it. i absolutely need the decimator now...
you don't need it. Just learn to use the knobs.
I've used the NS-2 for years. Personally, I turn it off if I playing with feedback, leads, etc. Touring musicians will tell you the same. I recently picked up an ISP Decimator II just for a change. They both work great. Just wanted one for fun. I mean, isn't the whole point?
Samad Abedi im thinkin the same. Will test that tonight🤘
you had the NS-2 set to reduction the whole time
Yes because isp and silencer are noise reduction/noise suppressors not "gates". Theres a difference
My only criticism is that it doesn't seem like you adjusted the release on the electro hormonics.?. And you didn't really adjust certain things on the boss? Sure the ISP is foolproof but that's an expensive pedal.!. It would be nice to see you do this review again but actually adjust the release settings on both other pedals. 5:54
Boss NS2 is always the best for amp or transistors
goddamn decimator works like hell but its so fucking expensive
the best demo for noise suppressor i ever seen, thanks
thank you for making this video
Good comparison, thank you!!
I might try the Decimator, all because the Boss NS2 kill sustain a lot, almost imposible to play sustained solos with this.
Hi Jose ! I have a Marshall JVM410 ( Great amp hi gain can be noisy ) I have used the ISP Decimator G string for 5 years ...... GREAT ( the best , as used by many pro players ) I recently bought the new Decimate G ..... UNREAL !!
Thanks for this comparison metal sir !!! I am looking for a noise gate as we speak
For a living room guy like me would you go for the cheaper EH silencer ????? Just based on cost vs performance ??🤟🤟🤟
great video. great examples and descriptions!
thanks for this video. Ok so the Decimator is filtering the noise out, not just between notes but even during playing ... ? Thanks
SILENCER EHX! THE BEST!
@@zap7759 lol
Shouldn't you be adjusting the Decay knob for long decaying notes??
Are the pedals hooked up like this, guitar--->pedal-->amp? I hook up the silencer so it is working after the guitar and in the amp's fx loop at the same time (4 cable method). By doing this, I don't have problem the gate cutting of sound unnaturally during clean / soft playing. Plus, it cuts off the tube amp hiss aswell so my rig is dead quiet between rest. Bare in mind that , by hooking up that way (4 cable method) , the setup might introduce additional noise (I think it is ground loop noise). I need to ground lift the cable that going between send and amp's input to solve that additional noise. Besides that, if i use power adapter with the silencer, there will be extra power supply noise, but that might be because of the noisy adapter.
All were hooked up using the 4 cable method....
Try this path of Signal Flow, It should help out a Bunch: Guitar into a Tube Pre-Amp, (Please...just Try It, Thank Me Later) Then into the High Gain Pedals, (Compressor, Distortion, EQ and Any other type of Pedal that adds DB Boost to the Signal Flow) into The 1st Noise Gate Pedal (of Your Choice) then into the Front End of your Amp. Remember, The Hotter the Signal into your Amp the More Overall Power Your Amp will Produce. Remember, Less is More, When it comes to Gain, Volume Itself is the Truest Form of Tone, Not Gain, Unless Your Desire is to be a HISS FEEDBACK MONSTER (You'd be Surprised at the amount of Players that Ignore the Obvious Signs, Due to Inexperience) Now that You've Thickened Up Your Tone and Cleaned it Up to be of More Use and Power, Now You can Color things up by Sending the Signal from the Effects Send from the Back of the Amp into Any Pedals that offer Reverb, Delay, Chorus, Flange, Phase, Tremolo...etc, into the 2nd Noise Gate Pedal (Again, Of Your Choice) Return on the Back of your Amp. Due Not add Too Much Threshold or it will Cut the Transcending Decays of the Effects, Remember, Less is More. By using the Effects Send and Return from the Rear End of Your Amp, You'll have More Control of the Wet and Dry Ratio of your signal (Provided You have the Footswitch for Your Amp) I Hope This helps the Players that are Confused or Misinformed about Signal Flow. - JV Fur'tl*i'zer
Have you tried them in the loop?
Decimator II, hands down.
ISP - no competition, hence the price point!
DEFINITELY !! ISP is the absolute BEST in noise reduction , and its made in the USA
this was really helpful thanks a lot!
Decimator all the way. straight to the point no B.S !!!
The decimator seems to be the best of these three but let's remember the Dunlop MXR Noise Clamp.
*MXR Noise Gate. EVH uses that pedal/, so I wish it had been in this comparison. :/
Decimator is the greatest! in sound, quality and price!
Not price and after owning all 3 i've settled with the ehx after countless hours in comparison down to every finest detail.
do you put it on the front end or in the loop?
@@wesbemke637 mean that ehx doing better?
EVERY gate pedal demo assumes we all play metal.
I have isp and ehx.... the silencer is so better, great, work and best is cheap
Just having plugged in the ns2 seems to have muffed up the tone a bit
ISP II g string is the superior product. You have duel channels and can place the pedal ANYWHERE in the signal chain. Before or after your high gain amp or pedals..thats why the ISP is $225 and the EHX is $60....do some research kids.
8:59 bend behind the nut is fucking sick
Great video!
Great!! Thanks for sharing!! =)
Hi! Is it connect on the effect loop behind the Dark Terror, or is it connect in line between your guitar and the amp? Thanks to reply, regards, Dimi
Connected via four cable method. Instruction are available in the manual of each pedal....
Thanks ! 🤘😉🤘
Well after seeing the video I have chosen the silencer noise gate. Play tuff metal dudes. Metaldude323
Thank you !!
The silencer sounds the best
Is it normal for the ns2 to make a pop noise when it releases when you hit the strings?
Bro..can I loop the Overdrive's without using the amp .
very good video thank you
Good review.
Hi there.. what about the Hush by Rocktron? What do u think?
We have never tried that pedal before, so it's hard to say how it'll compare...
MXR Noise Gate? That's what EVH uses ...
excellent vid
hello man, I have the Silencer, and I agree with you, the silencer have a little delay to cut. My ask is: is ISP really more faster and better? Delay on cutting noise is very bothering me. If the ISP is the better one, I am thinking in change my gate. Thanks
The ISP is great, not only does it do an excellent job, it's also extremely easy to use.
Another great option will be the TC Sentry Gate. We actually have another video on our channel where we compare the Decimator against the Sentry, do check that out as well!
I can get great sustain from my ns2.
good channel..
Those don't look like single coils to me.
Has everything to do with how well (or not) each pedal is set up ... Maybe the Decimator is just a little more idiot proof ...
Kieren Moore thats how i see it. never used an ns 2 or the silencer. the decimator is alot more simple, which is alot more effective sometimes
Last time I decide what cry baby I was looking for, now time 4 noise gate.
Este vídeo es una estafa! Es obvio que se inclina por el Isp por intereses comerciales o es que simplemente no tiene idea de lo que significa la palabra decay. Tanto el Boss como el Silencer tienen un control para lograr el decay deseado, que no lo tiene el ISP
Tengo un EHX Metal Muff me recomiendas el Silencer o el NS2?
Hola mario, te cuento que yo me hice con el ehx, pero realmente presenta el mismo problema del video, dejo de tocar y se nota 2 seg despues el apagado del hum, alguna sugerencia? saludos
Blanco y en botella...
I have NS 2 and it's more than enough for anything and is sturdy as fuck. You got the setting wrong here.
Why is it called the G string ?
Hey there, here's a great explanation of the difference with the G string model:
ruclips.net/video/GfU_Q8PP4rc/видео.html
$50 for the silencer? Sold.
When you put the decimator first bt the boss pedal last because of its price
Matrixar the silencer is the cheapest though. the decimator is easiest to use and slightly less troublesome on the tone coloring.
But I think the boss is the best... if I remember correctly
Matrixar ive always heard thats not the case. its the default pretty much, but ive always heard the isp was the best. idk. ive only ever used the decimator
Dude wtf, its obvious to hear in this video, the ISP cut more noise than the Boss, much faster. And it also had infinite sustain, unlike the Boss which only lasted for a few seconds. WTF how can you even state that after hearing this video. I wish i didn't waste money on this stupid inferior ns-2 :(((((
How did you have the pedals hooked up?
4 cable method. Running through the front and the effects loop of the amp.
I am not sure that you know how to set up a noise gate properly. The one that liked you I think it was the Decimator because only has one preset and the reduction/relase/decay its done automatically. Bad review
to this guy isp has a totally different meaning
I don't understand why boss pedals are even relevant today, I think they all pretty much suck except for the chorus pedal.
Just your opinion. I and many other people enjoy Boss pedals. They're affordable and a fast majority of them are fairly decent, of course you will get the few polished turds. However you cant deny that many big musicians of this day still use them and that stands for something.
good. stay away from the PS-6, it sucks. don't use it with a Fullbore metal either, because that pedal sucks too. No way anybody could get a usable tone out of that shit...hehe. ; ) mo uniqueness fo me.
I think boss obviously won