Also you notice how there would be tons of diesels on the curve to move the trains while the M1s, I1sas, and even K4s could manage it in doubleheaders or alone. Also the crews were more friendly to railfans too
Dad started working on the PRR right after WWII. We took many free trips when they still ran passenger service. The most memorable was always boarding the trains at Union Terminal station in Cincinnati. Many a trip from that grand station on our way to sunny Florida. Wonderful memories.
@mocus1 It doesn't say in the program when this was shot, but it's doubtful it was shot anytime after 1947, since that was when PRR began the "modernization" of it's steam fleet...(switching headlight and generator positions, cast drop pilots)...and all the engines in this video still have the old configuration. My guess is early to mid 40's.
The Pennsylvania rr had an impressive variety of steam locomotive types and many including the duplex designs were attractive and unique in appearance. It's a shame however that the PRR didn't preserve one example of their J1 class 2-10-4 type locomotives, I would really like to see one of the j1's on display in a park or museum today.
Nice vid, even if it is old. I've been around Horseshoe Curve on PRR as a kid, when my parents & I traveled to NYC. It was long after steam was no longer being used, but I do remember the conductor coming thru and calling out "Horseshoe Curve" and everyone moving over to the other side of the coach car to look out the windows at this engineering marvel.
Can't wait for a friend of mine to get done with rebuilding part of the PRR on trainz the Rockville bridge will be on the route and way more like the Pittsburgh station and even Philadelphia and also the Horseshoe curve. It's gonna be a monster!
Great steam action on the engineering marvel of Horseshoe Curve, achieving a climbable 2% grade over those high mountains by taking a circuitous route as opposed to building a shorter route with expensive bridges and its attendant steeper and more difficult grade. Even that 2% grade required helpers on many occasions.
Interesting that those PRR men were also up there on the curve watching the action. The one looked like he was off of a passenger run. The other maybe a Brakeman.
Standard railroad of the world is no oversight, the Pennsy rained true to it's word for many years, always in hard competing with the New York Central as well
@ :31 you can see the Glen White branch/siding at HSC 1:52 I love the tractors, Olivers I believe 2:00 train with a HIPPO on the head end would of been king on the PRR's Elmira Branch (my hometown named line) 2:15 Ive never seen a car like that one on that train.
That is a clearance car. It has "fingers" that go out and find out how big tunnels, bridges etc... are. Usually ran ahead of an important oversized load. Lasers and scanning has replaced it.
Who does the narration on this Herron video? I've heard his voice several times on some of the RFD-TV shows called Trains & Locomotives. Some of the shows were produced by Herron. It's impossible to read the credits at the end of the shows. I always thought the narrator's voice exemplified someone with a vast railroad knowledge and it was perfect for a train show. I've watched every train show on RFD-TV since they 1st started broadcasting them 12+ years ago. I thought Ralph E. Morse did the narration, but I can't confirm that via Google. Can anyone tell me the narrator's name?
Théâtrale ,Spectaculaire Nos si chers convois tracté par des locomotives a vapeurs Ne les oublions jamais A 71 ans j'ai eue la chance de connaître ce matériel PARIS/NORD>LAON en deux heures ! Le Dijonnais Calais Bâle !
depends on the condition of the fire and the ratio of air to coal. They smoke when feeding a lot of fuel and burn clean once the volatile fraction of the coal has gone and the fire is mainly coke. The skill of the fireman has a big effect on it too as a good one can make it burn clean most of the time.
how long were the k4 pacifics without the tender? I'm just curious, I want to do a math experiment with tender-to-engine length ratios and coal and water capacities.
Ed Riddle this is summer/autumn 1940 or 1941. The film color saturation is unique to prewar ASA 10 daylight Kodachrome, the formula of which changed in early November 1941. It cannot be earlier than that, as the Oliver tractors on the flat car were introduced in April 1940....
@steelflexable No offense, but how can you tell what model year the car is from when all you see is the wheel and part of the headlight? Even if it is a 1930s model car, that doesn't mean that's the time period it's currently in. This is 2010, but not everyone drives a 2010-model car. 8mm or 16mm cameras capable of taking color footage weren't even made widely available to consumers until 1937 at the earliest.
My beautiful Pennsylvania
There’s something so fascinating about seeing these giants of the Pennsylvania Railroad in action
you have no idea how much i wish i could have seen these in person
I remember as a little boy in Renovo about 1959-60 all the steamers lined up for scraping the yard was full of loco's
Amzing
This is probably some of the best clear footage of these years that ive seen in a while
Great footage.As a young boy,my aunt to take me to an overpass &we'd watch the Pennsy go under us.Miss those days.💕
Wonderful and beautiful machines, desperately missed.
Talk about when times were simpler... none of the fencing that we see at the Curve today. You can't get anywhere near the tracks nowadays.
you are so right....better times in America ....and railroading
Thank lawyers, if somebody got hit by a train, they'd sue the railroad.
Could get cabrides (just be standing trackside) back in those days.
Also you notice how there would be tons of diesels on the curve to move the trains while the M1s, I1sas, and even K4s could manage it in doubleheaders or alone. Also the crews were more friendly to railfans too
K8292
my favorite railroad
Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions agree with you that my favorite railroad too
Dad started working on the PRR right after WWII. We took many free trips when they still ran passenger service. The most memorable was always boarding the trains at Union Terminal station in Cincinnati. Many a trip from that grand station on our way to sunny Florida. Wonderful memories.
Love those K4s! Built an HO model from a kit-weighs almost as much as the Lionel O27 engines!
Great classic trains! Who needs that darn Acela??
The greatest railroad in the world
What a wonderful fleet of locomotives the PRR had. What I would give or do to be able to have been there.
@mocus1 It doesn't say in the program when this was shot, but it's doubtful it was shot anytime after 1947, since that was when PRR began the "modernization" of it's steam fleet...(switching headlight and generator positions, cast drop pilots)...and all the engines in this video still have the old configuration. My guess is early to mid 40's.
AMAZING FOOTAGE THANKS A TON!!!!
The Pennsylvania rr had an impressive variety of steam locomotive types and many including the duplex designs were attractive and unique in appearance. It's a shame however that the PRR didn't preserve one example of their J1 class 2-10-4 type locomotives, I would really like to see one of the j1's on display in a park or museum today.
Awesome! I think those are Oliver 60 tractors 1940-1947
K4JW We used to have a Rowcrop 77....
It’s so bizarre seeing an I1sa on the head end a passenger train. Never knew they did that.
Probably as a helper, I think the second engine was a K4
Nice vid, even if it is old. I've been around Horseshoe Curve on PRR as a kid, when my parents & I traveled to NYC. It was long after steam was no longer being used, but I do remember the conductor coming thru and calling out "Horseshoe Curve" and everyone moving over to the other side of the coach car to look out the windows at this engineering marvel.
@adtrains75 There's an annotation at the beginning of the video telling who made it...it's Herron Rail Video.
Awesome video!
Kittanning is pronounced kit-TAN-ing not "kitten-ing." My grandma's brother was a brakeman. He was killed on the Horseshoe curve.
Can't wait for a friend of mine to get done with rebuilding part of the PRR on trainz the Rockville bridge will be on the route and way more like the Pittsburgh station and even Philadelphia and also the Horseshoe curve. It's gonna be a monster!
Do you know if he's still working on that? I downloaded one with all those places but it's just the heightmap and roughly placed track
Yessir, as big as the route is it’s still a wip, but it’s called Matt’s Version Pittsburgh to Philadelphia on the dls
The good old days!
Great steam action on the engineering marvel of Horseshoe Curve, achieving a climbable 2% grade over those high mountains by taking a circuitous route as opposed to building a shorter route with expensive bridges and its attendant steeper and more difficult grade. Even that 2% grade required helpers on many occasions.
Wow! Now, this is vintage!
Interesting that those PRR men were also up there on the curve watching the action. The one looked like he was off of a passenger run. The other maybe a Brakeman.
We should have been in my life back then it would have been really interesting to see the penzi in its
The thumbs down were from New York Central. :D A shame though what happened to both of them.
Check out the Olivers at 1:51 definately late 30s early 40s. I cant put it into words how much I wish I could have been there.
Good camera quality for back then.
Standard railroad of the world is no oversight, the Pennsy rained true to it's word for many years, always in hard competing with the New York Central as well
I hope to own all 5 volumes one day. Same with Pocahantas Glory (their Norfolk and Western dvds.)
Steam and Diesel on the Pennsylvania Railroad.
Wow. Thanks! I need this one.
@ :31 you can see the Glen White branch/siding at HSC
1:52 I love the tractors, Olivers I believe
2:00 train with a HIPPO on the head end would of been king on the PRR's Elmira Branch (my hometown named line)
2:15 Ive never seen a car like that one on that train.
That is a clearance car. It has "fingers" that go out and find out how big tunnels, bridges etc... are. Usually ran ahead of an important oversized load. Lasers and scanning has replaced it.
this is heaven
"Central Motors diesel" right near the end? Huh? Whazzat? Stiffing the "General"?
I thought the B&O was the first railroad chartered in America?
"Freight Train". Several versions on RUclips. Chet's guitar is my pick.
Who does the narration on this Herron video? I've heard his voice several times on some of the RFD-TV shows called Trains & Locomotives. Some of the shows were produced by Herron. It's impossible to read the credits at the end of the shows. I always thought the narrator's voice exemplified someone with a vast railroad knowledge and it was perfect for a train show. I've watched every train show on RFD-TV since they 1st started broadcasting them 12+ years ago. I thought Ralph E. Morse did the narration, but I can't confirm that via Google. Can anyone tell me the narrator's name?
What’s the next show that has Steam related?
Illinois Steam Safari 1989-2019!
Wow! No trees in the view of "Horseshoe Curve"!
You should see it now! back to the glory days of no trees!
Théâtrale ,Spectaculaire
Nos si chers convois tracté par des locomotives a vapeurs
Ne les oublions jamais
A 71 ans j'ai eue la chance de connaître ce matériel
PARIS/NORD>LAON en deux heures !
Le Dijonnais Calais Bâle !
I think the name of the song is freight train going so fast.
Why do steam loco's sometimes smoke like crazy and other times burn clean? Isn't the coal always smoking the same??
depends on the condition of the fire and the ratio of air to coal. They smoke when feeding a lot of fuel and burn clean once the volatile fraction of the coal has gone and the fire is mainly coke. The skill of the fireman has a big effect on it too as a good one can make it burn clean most of the time.
how long were the k4 pacifics without the tender? I'm just curious, I want to do a math experiment with tender-to-engine length ratios and coal and water capacities.
I think Rockville Bridge over the Susquehanna
The 1st train? That's eastbound at Mt. Union, over the Juniata
Early intermodal shipment @ 1:56?
Pennys was favorite of the eastern roads second only to N&W.
Was that J Szalai panning the camera??
Was there a siding on the horseshoe curve? I saw train cars sitting on one of the 4 tracks
HSC was four tracks from 1910 or thereabouts until Conrail took one out in the early 1980s (I think it was).
Great Video. Probably during WWII.
Ed Riddle this is summer/autumn 1940 or 1941. The film color saturation is unique to prewar ASA 10 daylight Kodachrome, the formula of which changed in early November 1941. It cannot be earlier than that, as the Oliver tractors on the flat car were introduced in April 1940....
@steelflexable No offense, but how can you tell what model year the car is from when all you see is the wheel and part of the headlight? Even if it is a 1930s model car, that doesn't mean that's the time period it's currently in. This is 2010, but not everyone drives a 2010-model car. 8mm or 16mm cameras capable of taking color footage weren't even made widely available to consumers until 1937 at the earliest.
Great footage!! What year was this shot?
"First railroad chartered in America" um no thatd the b&o
was there a siding on horse shoe at one time?
What freight did the PRR normally carry?
Well, anything you could imagine, but coal was a big thing for them
@thegliderguy
I was just going to say the same thing.
What music is that?
where do you get Glory Machines Vol. I?
K a tanning not Kitt ning Ya gumps
Does anybody know the name of the song at the end of this video?
Brennan Walter Peter Paul and Mary - Freight Train
"locomotives of great size and power"....not quite, when compared to articulated steam locomotives of other eastern RR's N&W, C&O, and VGN
anyone know the name of the song at the end of this video?
I’m wondering the same thing lol