Yall keep bringing up this rand manipulation and forget all the corruption anc and these fools have done for 20 years atleast, you fools love using any excuse to avoid talking about your corrupt leaders😂😂😂and maybe if anc left the investigating units and our intelligence agencies alone, maybe they would've caught the rand manipulation, but no, your zuma and anc has made every institution a joke, but I guess you'll use another excuse
The whole ANC and EFF is weak.....and 45mil + people are too stupid to realize they only care about their pockets! I can't imagine being so dumb that you believe unfulfilled promises for 30 years, single digit IQs
But the multi party charter ( you guys are fighting with each other, I don't trust you with my vote). Your prospects for success are far from victory even after Zuma announcement unfortunately. I'm very interested to see how this unfold in 2024.
There is a huge gap left from this loss of ANC political trust. What it gets replaced with is up to South African voters. I hope that it is a sensible replacement, this time round. Three decades, to learn this lesson. My opinion? #Vote_DA
I'm trying to understand why the ANC seems to treat Jacob Zuma differently than their other leaders. Whether he's innocent or guilty, it's confusing that they're not supporting Mr. Zuma like they usually do for their leaders. It's like they're saying, "We can criticize you freely; just don't show any distress, as tears are reserved for traitors." Surprisingly, the ANC is now expressing a desire to engage with him, even after subjecting him to repeated incarceration. This pattern raises questions about whether their actions are tied to his alignment with BRICS rather than Western powers. Jacob Zuma, during his presidency, showed a strong commitment to advancing the interests of black South Africans. Despite the treatment he received, he refrained from privatizing government assets. His term witnessed the rise of ordinary South Africans to millionaires. Additionally, he introduced crucial initiatives like BEE, BBEEE, and free education for all. These policies significantly benefited black South Africans, reflecting his dedication to the well-being and prosperity of the nation. It's impressive that Zuma not only defended black people but also took steps to ensure a fair and prosperous future for everyone in South Africa.
No that is ly he still all the coffers of my country empty Wes gave to Gupta not even to South African to foreigners I Pay tax I am black you still tax you are stilling from me and he bribe inkabi uba zimgade not uba ezipha
Bathi umoshile uwubulele umbutho ukuthi kanjani Nami angazi ngoba andiboni mntu ungcono kwipolitics What I knew it's just a dirty game you must know 🎉 to play your cards
The MK party must win at least 6% go into and alliance with the EFF. If this happens,the ANC will be done. They ANC is definitely losing KwaZulu. Mshini wami has pulled a strategic move.
In ten days and you still have less than 5 likes for an important interview like this, then you call that a great interview and analysis! This is how base the country's media has lowered itself! I know Sakina Kumwenda would've butchered Prof S. Booysen had she the latitude to do so, but then she has a family to feed and look after. Where do you do your polls that give those reflections that the ANC can still win! Hebanna! Isn't this a case of preparation for manufactured consent via rigging the 2024 election.
I am still a family member but I'm starting my own family that's what Zuma Means therefore as much as I am there family I have rules I see otherwise therefore I will implement them in my own family 100%
Zuma's lawyer is eff and the only great advisor is eff and the only party that wants ANC out is eff and this was calculated and no one in ANC can risk by expelling Zuma
I wish Prof could clarify why ANC is quiet on this matter n also explain in details how is it possible to be an ANC member for life n vote otherwise😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
With this move, The moonshot nonsense has a chance. EFF will also be in forced to go in a coalition which may be EFF, PA MK and possibly ATM. There's a lot of maybes going on in the political space... Zuma has reached a point where he is bigger than the Organization(ANC). Since the things he warned us about and what he tried to do with nuclear has become our reality, majority on the ground are now seeing that he was better/ right. All the big 3 have their scandals but who has a better reach? who speaks to the people? and who has a lot to lose? ANC & DA have more to lose than EFF.
He did set the example of how to cheat SA, 4 yrs after rainbow SA, in 1998 by inflating the price to gain of weapon sales, the country did not need. The 1st writing on the wall white washed by the anc. Mbeki was ousted + he went ballistic, closed down the scorpions to spent bills of rands in taxes on the guptas + was ousted - the 2nd writing on the wall, to be followed shortly there after by the 3rd larger than life writing, when the insurrection followed - costing SA more than 300 lives, a multitude of jobs + bill's of rands in infrastructure damages. Just 1 culprit emerges, now facing a judge. Judge Zondo proved most of it, but still SA clung to those who cheat + lie to them - with scores more boarding the fun running corruption wagon. Then stalingrad tactics followed with him playing the victim card like a pro, with no care in the world abt what it's doing to the poor, taxes, the fiscus, the infrastructure, crime, the economy, the stature of individuals + the party they pretend to value so-o much. And here he is again lapping up publicity with Mk, threatening to hold the country + its taxes at ransom, when his beloved party is on its weakest. Very noble + loyal of him - with the 4th writing fooling SA on the wall, pleading + promising dear love + best effort to SA. Few ppl realise, if he walks on the multitude of charges against him, so will every looter, thief, saboteur + moneylenderer, skuldugger + traitor - or will SA embark on yet more sets of rules, supposedly to protect itself but nevertheless to erode it's assets? How many more writings on the wall do SA want, before it starts to protect itself?
Who cares about old or new organization or congress? We want our South Africa back, where we were safe,where there was law in the country without the disturbing of NGO
@@amorakale1224 when black people were killed like dogs in their own land, where black people's existence was an inconvenience to the settlers, where black people's livestock was stolen by pink people, where black women were raped by pink males?
He gets a lot of support from IFP members as well who will not necessarily vote for his new party. The ANC must call his bluff and expel him. They were likely not gonna win KZN with/out him anyway!
Yeah. I'm also in support of Zuma........to be served justice that's LONG OVERDUE. The country is currently being Raped and Destroyed by the looting ANC thugs. Only the DA has the necessary skills and qualifications to get us out of this mess.
Zuma has been treated badly by anc especially ramaphosa and his friend zondo, zuma deserve better than being badly treated by anc and i support him on his move
Yes he spent like an hour in jail. Anc has treated hum badly obviously. I mean all he got was nkandla state capture failing soe incompetent leadership and municipalities.
@@elfishy1874 at some point, you need to pray that stupidity make a way from yourself! What is State Capture? Zuma was investigated by Thuli Madonsele on Inkandla case, which means Public Protector was not captured, she was also not impeached. The then CJ Mongoeng gave a guilty verdict against him, and nothing bad was done to him, and that also proves judiciary was not captured. Zuma allowed all those marches that were campaigning against him, he didn't use SA NDF to threaten them, he believe it was their democratic right to do them. Now tell me, what is his cases in the State Capture? Is he not supposed to be a number one suspect? Why is Duduzani(his son) was released, as he was the one who was working closely with the Gupta. You claim to be smart, yet you're being used by a particular gang that's using mainstream media power. How many people have been given guilty verdict by media, as opposed to courts? Ace Magashule is guilty to you, but his case has failed to start for about 4 years, what does that mean to yourself? Zandile Gumede is also guilty, but has the court issued such verdict, no. The former Public Protector Mkhwebane who was investigating the current president and his funders, which are also DA funders, was made to look bad to yourselves and was removed and you gave a big clap, siding with corruption. Musi Maimane was demoted by the DA, which resulted in him leaving the party, for opening an investigation on Ramaphosa and Busasa. All of these means nothing to you because you don't use your own head. If you wakeup now and realize that you're hacked, you're likely to die dumb!
@franslieb1056 @elfishy1874 at some point, you need to pray that stupidity make a way from yourself! What is State Capture? Zuma was investigated by Thuli Madonsele on Inkandla case, which means Public Protector was not captured, she was also not impeached. The then CJ Mongoeng gave a guilty verdict against him, and nothing bad was done to him, and that also proves judiciary was not captured. Zuma allowed all those marches that were campaigning against him, he didn't use SA NDF to threaten them, he believe it was their democratic right to do them. Now tell me, what is his cases in the State Capture? Is he not supposed to be a number one suspect? Why is Duduzani(his son) was released, as he was the one who was working closely with the Gupta. You claim to be smart, yet you're being used by a particular gang that's using mainstream media power. How many people have been given guilty verdict by media, as opposed to courts? Ace Magashule is guilty to you, but his case has failed to start for about 4 years, what does that mean to yourself? Zandile Gumede is also guilty, but has the court issued such verdict, no. The former Public Protector Mkhwebane who was investigating the current president and his funders, which are also DA funders, was made to look bad to yourselves and was removed and you gave a big clap, siding with corruption. Musi Maimane was demoted by the DA, which resulted in him leaving the party, for opening an investigation on Ramaphosa and Busasa. All of these means nothing to you because you don't use your own head. If you wakeup now and realize that you're hacked, you're likely to die dumb!
@@armandlaeremans9674 @elfishy1874 at some point, you need to pray that stupidity make a way from yourself! What is State Capture? Zuma was investigated by Thuli Madonsele on Inkandla case, which means Public Protector was not captured, she was also not impeached. The then CJ Mongoeng gave a guilty verdict against him, and nothing bad was done to him, and that also proves judiciary was not captured. Zuma allowed all those marches that were campaigning against him, he didn't use SA NDF to threaten them, he believe it was their democratic right to do them. Now tell me, what is his cases in the State Capture? Is he not supposed to be a number one suspect? Why is Duduzani(his son) was released, as he was the one who was working closely with the Gupta. You claim to be smart, yet you're being used by a particular gang that's using mainstream media power. How many people have been given guilty verdict by media, as opposed to courts? Ace Magashule is guilty to you, but his case has failed to start for about 4 years, what does that mean to yourself? Zandile Gumede is also guilty, but has the court issued such verdict, no. The former Public Protector Mkhwebane who was investigating the current president and his funders, which are also DA funders, was made to look bad to yourselves and was removed and you gave a big clap, siding with corruption. Musi Maimane was demoted by the DA, which resulted in him leaving the party, for opening an investigation on Ramaphosa and Busasa. All of these means nothing to you because you don't use your own head. If you wakeup now and realize that you're hacked, you're likely to die dumb!
Zuma never refused to appear that's what I hate about these Cyril analysts.Why not speaking the truth.Zuma requested to appear under a different judge which was declined.
I hope it was 2022 before the expel of former SG AM. Before arresting former president JZ, I wrote a comment which was stating that; if I was a presidential adviser of the president of RSA Mr CR, to unite ANC rather than divide the party
@@siyabonganxumalo4574 I think now there is more apartheid then before. This will be a very nice country without people with apartheid minds and corruption 🤪
It splits the ANC and EFF vote - as these are likely candidate voters for the MK party. SO it weakens the cause Zuma claims to be campaigning for. He is not stupid, so he's probably doing it to protect himself militarily if the court cases against him result in a guilty verdict.
A real leader face music Matthew, They like it or not ANC only open a path for weak leaders to open parties, comparing a 25yrs old kid and 99yrs old is just a waist. i dont see a 25yrs old cash up to cover 74yrs of struggle, ANC changed lifes and will still do......if you want to compete ANC, is a waist no one can cover where it is now. so people should stop using others for their own benefits
ALWAYS the victim ... But sadly; there are many who will never objectively pay any attention to the quoted * Nine Wasted Years * that involved major corruption / looting that have ruined SA as a Country and its citizens ... 🥺
Actually Port Natal and Kwaza Zulu Natal are becoming NEW independent Nation from RSA ! Here's where gets tricky about why ! From Port Alexzander Baii Plymouth Ramsar Basin River To Salahdra Bay maybe become the new Western Atlantic Kwaza Zulu Natal Coast Providences which incredibly recovery South Africa fiscal territory back to only a Southern Cape and Republic Valley ! Likewise A Eastern Kwaza Zulu Natal Coast and A Western Kwaza Zulu Natal Atlantic Coast! ONE nation with adoption of Lesotho and Eswentzi as North And South Natal * without practical meritocracy methods of sessions or receding from RSA could be the most unfortunate political organization of a entire Southern Africa
Zuma is the most busy fmr President and he must be careful of stroke. Pulling such a stunt so late to prepare branches for his new party that might even loose the name in court. Chill baba and retire.
Love or hate ANC or MK, I think its a total disgrace that the World should see the armed birth-child of the historical ANC being used to attack its parent because of 1 individual.
These anc old topies are a joke really,1st it was mavuso who resigned and went back to retract his resignation,now its zuma who campaigns for a new party but still don't resign from his party,i mean how is that possible
Zuma want to use MKVA to support him during the arms trial He must go hes very dangerous for this country he is missleader, phatha matamela phatha Go zupta
Zuma is not alone. He's garnering support from all ANC with corrupt black mark to support him. Ramaphoria, after elections he must focus on strengthing NPA, NIA, SANDF, HAWKS and police.
The ANC has been losing votes, whether Zuma stays or not it has been a downward trend all along. So now they just rubber-stamping it. Msimango, Mbeki, Zuma all are still ANC members but all don't want it to win. Can we say they hate Ramaphosa to the extent of selling their ANC. I think it's time for ANC whether Zuma stay and vote, whether Thabo Mbeki stays and vote. It's just heartbreaking for this to happen now, maybe it was better after our generation
What? The media? That's the ANC line 'we're useless and corrupt, but the media causes it by mentioning it.' The same story as every corrupt and ineffectual dictatorship. The 'muzzle the press' playbook, just like they did in Apartheid. The power of inconvenient truths.
Very poor analysis, in your own view you failed to think that Zuma and Ramaphosa are not friends, and you forgot that all the ANC veterans are saying that the current ANC is no longer like Mandela, Sisulu, Tambo and others, so because Zuma loved that ANC, he had to move to something that has that inheritance.
Nope, infact this zuma mk party will merge with eff and ret anc not ramaphosa anc. Ramaphosa anc will be left with no choice but be pushed to merge with eff to avoid prosecution, then malema will be elected as SA president.
@@dazzybotha6564Truth and agree 1000% He dont have Presidentail Material his Disrespectful Rude Aggressive and always insult People our Counwtry will be WORSE
@@GlenroseMakgorogo At the time he MEC for economy development in KZN. What does he have to do with something that happy on a national governments level?
Not even the excuse of a judicial system of South Africa can achieve anything against him. We actually need people like him to sort out this failing contraption of a contry! At least the Country won't have to take the World serious!
ANC give FPres Zuma ultimatum to retract within 7days or that he would have pronounced himself out of the party. No need for disciplinary action, he has brought the party into disrepute by announcing publicly that he will not vote nor campaign for the party and endorses opposition parties. He does not have national power he purports to have except for big in KZN and pockets elsewhere in the country. The July nonsense has proven that.
Well it's true it's not easy to expel him from the party let's who is will begin that process, the party should have done that long time ago if they could
Jacob Zuma is a bitter man. He fears being forgotten and irrelevant He lost in his bid to make Dlhamini Zuma head of the ANC to keep his hold and access to state 'resources ' He has lost every attempt to redeem himself from accusations of corruption through the courts....so far. With the ANC now being forced to act against Zuma and all Zuma's cronies who were part of State Capture he now has no choice but to once again play a chess move. Gonna make his son Duduzani run gorgeous 'President' via his new Gupta financed party Umkhonto we sizwe Party. All the Zumas and cronies want is another bite from the state cookie jar. Zuma must fall.
Seems everyone knows how the ANC will/should react to Zuma's moronic circus! Well, at this time of the year news is scarce, so this at least keeps journalists and so-called political analysts busy instead of being bored busking in the sun.
Zuma has no problem with the ANC, he is challenging Ramaphosa and I think he feels hard done by him because he was the his right hand man during the so called "State Capture " and was part of the immense failures that are attributed to only one man who is Zuma himself, xa kungahlanganwa noba kusemgidini zinganqoza. The less we talk about Msimang the better, he probably much weaker than the WMC deployeee. I despise man who have no conviction that's why the ANC is like this, it is led by empty suits,period!!!!
But Zuma himself who led the national AIDS efforts in Mbeki's government attributed all the HIV/AIDS policy failures to one man, Mbeki. That's how politics work.
Why were these political parties not formed prior, opportunistic individuals waited for democracy and taken advantage to divide citizens especially the majority. 😢
The ruling party is just an umbrella, with different interest of its own , this is not the end, watch the space, let the ANC cut off srd grant. Let them leave former state man alone, for former stateman not supporting the ANC it shows that under the current leader it feels unpalatable.
My biggest concern is who is going to be Umkhonto Wesizwe Party founding president. Moreover, we are yet to establish what UMkhonto Wesizwe party stands for, it fundamental ideology.
I think white monopoly capital is another nonsense slogan. It doesn't actually mean anything and is usually used by those who are angling for a handout. Like the EFF and the ANC. The next word is usually 'nationalisation.' Like the ABC can manage anything without demonstratingt incompetence and engaging in thievery and fraud.
I myself as political analyst have an idea about ANC taking action against former president Jacob Zuma is a waste due to my reasons n my way of Political understanding
Even if JZ would campaign for the ANC they were not going to do well in the elections, the damage has already been done a long time ago, they must not think we have forgotten the GUPTAS what an embarrassment.
Ramaphosa ge a ka tlogela go rata power everything will be alright. Zuma o tlola tlola fela gore Ramaphoria a MO itshwarele(prosecution amnesty). Zuma wa itse kwa ntle ga ANC, tronk e mo lebagane therefore Bo Ramaphoria ba nale bargaining chip
If rand manipulation was given the same energy, same attention, same analysis
Never forget it. Captured media. We are in trouble.
😂😂keep dreaming, this is not that kind of world.
Say it Loud
Yall keep bringing up this rand manipulation and forget all the corruption anc and these fools have done for 20 years atleast, you fools love using any excuse to avoid talking about your corrupt leaders😂😂😂and maybe if anc left the investigating units and our intelligence agencies alone, maybe they would've caught the rand manipulation, but no, your zuma and anc has made every institution a joke, but I guess you'll use another excuse
No one will be arrested or charged no one in ANC has info about USDZAR
I 100%support President Zuma👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Never thought I'd ever use "thank you" and "Zuma" in the same sentence.
😂
He is too old to be running around in politics....these old people need to step down look at him...he looks weak
Kikikii true
Yes, KZN needs new visionary leaders like Mayor Chris Pappas ( 32, fluent in isiZulu) of uMngeni Municipality!! (on RUclips)
The whole ANC and EFF is weak.....and 45mil + people are too stupid to realize they only care about their pockets!
I can't imagine being so dumb that you believe unfulfilled promises for 30 years, single digit IQs
yes, go to jail, do not collect R200
Zuma is a spirit, he is in youth, he will never get weak
"ANC" and "decisive action" don't go well together in a sentence, unless it is to do with stealing.
This is the division we've been waiting for.
To Victory, Multi-Party Charter!
It could go the other way. If ANC does badly, Ramaphosa goes, Paul takes over and links with EFF.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Tinker8531 But the Multi-Party charter will be ready to fight them anyway, right?
But the multi party charter ( you guys are fighting with each other, I don't trust you with my vote). Your prospects for success are far from victory even after Zuma announcement unfortunately. I'm very interested to see how this unfold in 2024.
Moonshot pact is a stillborn. This benefits parties on the left like EFF
I thought Zuma is a very sick man
On the death bed. Apparently Jesus heals...
Golf cures most ailments
He is strong enough to uproot apartheid puppets
Those doctors who came to such a conclusion should be held accountable and this thug returned to jail.
He is not sick He is old 😊
What Zuma is doing, "I have a new wife and I am moving in with her in our new home....but I remain your husband"😂😂😂😂😂
So true,well said
Ingaba kanje futhi...Ubaba ukhipha indoda emzini wakhe kodwa akaylahlile ,uthi nje ndodana usengowalaykhaya kodwa yakha laphaya, indodana ephuma inxiwaisuke ingeke ilahle isbongo sayo.
😂😂😂😂😂true
you can marry to wives...if you are man enough only simp and low life men cant marry two wives
Zuma is a polygamist, why u guys surprised 😅...polygamist avoid divorce at all cost
Zuma play his cards in a clever way welldone President
Selfish
ANC WILL WIN next year
In their dreams 😂
@@JB-de6srchest pain
@@JB-de6sr😂😂😂pass me that pipe you have strong dagga growing in your basement.
They are the ones who arrest him the lines were drawn there he must find his new home u mkonto wesizwe and we are with you Nxamalala
I think Zuma must just leave politics and and enjoy his old age.
He want to stay out of jail. That's why he is not retiring peacefully
He will leave after ANC and Ramaphosa loose in 2024
Very true
@@jameskillu9171I hope we don't put our hopes up too much.
Yha nami ngihamba nawe Kodwa lokho ukwenzile wazihlalela enkandla kodwa bona benzani bamlandela ngamacala ungathola ukuthi noma ngabe uwenzile awenziwanga nguye kuphela kodwa manje kulandelwa yena kuphela
There is a huge gap left from this loss of ANC political trust. What it gets replaced with is up to South African voters. I hope that it is a sensible replacement, this time round. Three decades, to learn this lesson. My opinion? #Vote_DA
Action SA, DA has shown too many times its interests lie in the White minority.
Yhooooooo😮
Never
I'd rather vote Eff before voting for DA
DA will never rule in SA.
I just like the challenge tht Zuma has put in the anc face, let me sit and watch how it all play out😅
I'm trying to understand why the ANC seems to treat Jacob Zuma differently than their other leaders. Whether he's innocent or guilty, it's confusing that they're not supporting Mr. Zuma like they usually do for their leaders. It's like they're saying, "We can criticize you freely; just don't show any distress, as tears are reserved for traitors." Surprisingly, the ANC is now expressing a desire to engage with him, even after subjecting him to repeated incarceration. This pattern raises questions about whether their actions are tied to his alignment with BRICS rather than Western powers.
Jacob Zuma, during his presidency, showed a strong commitment to advancing the interests of black South Africans. Despite the treatment he received, he refrained from privatizing government assets. His term witnessed the rise of ordinary South Africans to millionaires. Additionally, he introduced crucial initiatives like BEE, BBEEE, and free education for all. These policies significantly benefited black South Africans, reflecting his dedication to the well-being and prosperity of the nation. It's impressive that Zuma not only defended black people but also took steps to ensure a fair and prosperous future for everyone in South Africa.
No that is ly he still all the coffers of my country empty Wes gave to Gupta not even to South African to foreigners I Pay tax I am black you still tax you are stilling from me and he bribe inkabi uba zimgade not uba ezipha
@@julukatwangu3732 🙄
@@OvO-OvO1 The right is right.
Zuma knows alot to destroy the ANC that is why they will not expel him.
Bathi umoshile uwubulele umbutho ukuthi kanjani Nami angazi ngoba andiboni mntu ungcono kwipolitics
What I knew it's just a dirty game you must know 🎉 to play your cards
The MK party must win at least 6% go into and alliance with the EFF.
If this happens,the ANC will be done.
They ANC is definitely losing KwaZulu.
Mshini wami has pulled a strategic move.
That's my wish
Great interview, great questions Sakina, interesting answers Susan. We should be grateful we have this level of popular media in SA.
Captured SABC. Only fools will praise it
I also found this interview excellent. Both analyst and presenter (I've always liked Sakina) are on point
In ten days and you still have less than 5 likes for an important interview like this, then you call that a great interview and analysis! This is how base the country's media has lowered itself!
I know Sakina Kumwenda would've butchered Prof S. Booysen had she the latitude to do so, but then she has a family to feed and look after.
Where do you do your polls that give those reflections that the ANC can still win! Hebanna! Isn't this a case of preparation for manufactured consent via rigging the 2024 election.
Popular not only in KZN also in other provinces including Limpopo. We’ve seen it. Prof must just be honest and transparent.
I am still a family member but I'm starting my own family that's what Zuma Means therefore as much as I am there family I have rules I see otherwise therefore I will implement them in my own family 100%
He will form a coalition with the eff.
Zuma's lawyer is eff and the only great advisor is eff and the only party that wants ANC out is eff and this was calculated and no one in ANC can risk by expelling Zuma
Maybe his EEF lawyer is also advising him to enable the lawyer to benefit too, politically,, power is sweet
I wish Prof could clarify why ANC is quiet on this matter n also explain in details how is it possible to be an ANC member for life n vote otherwise😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is a checkmate. The name MK is the troubling aspect. Disbanding it was a mistake.
@@maomakelafrans8034 Veterans MK was disbanded bcoz of being zuma clowns
@@stephenmahlangu9101looks like the "clowns" have come back to haunt you...and the ANC is too weak or afraid to make a move...checkmate!
At the end of the day it is about the people of SA. Not about your belly
With this move, The moonshot nonsense has a chance. EFF will also be in forced to go in a coalition which may be EFF, PA MK and possibly ATM. There's a lot of maybes going on in the political space... Zuma has reached a point where he is bigger than the Organization(ANC). Since the things he warned us about and what he tried to do with nuclear has become our reality, majority on the ground are now seeing that he was better/ right. All the big 3 have their scandals but who has a better reach? who speaks to the people? and who has a lot to lose? ANC & DA have more to lose than EFF.
The man failed ANC 2016 nothing new
Fabulous. Great news. Split the ANC vote, they're already in trouble.
A typical of a person who wants to be respected but he can't respect others.
True
The biggest mistake was to put Zuma back to jail after, after he spent a decade in jail fighting for the freedom of this country
He was jailed without trial for that matter. The only one since 1994. How unlawful is the captured judiciary
They did not gain anything out of that instead losing more n more 😂
We should seek counsel from Eugene De Kok for knows he knows the man and truth behind his story!
Zuma played his cards right and serves the ANC of Ramaphosa right. He has valid points he is raising.
It's just nonsense they must just leave him.
Baffles me that any conscious human being would even vote for Zuma. Shows the sorry state of politics in South Africa
People are highly uneducated about politics in this country, and it does not surprise me that those same people vote for the anc
Blah blah blah blah blah
Who asked you? Stop making everything about you.
He did set the example of how to cheat SA, 4 yrs after rainbow SA, in 1998 by inflating the price to gain of weapon sales, the country did not need. The 1st writing on the wall white washed by the anc.
Mbeki was ousted + he went ballistic, closed down the scorpions to spent bills of rands in taxes on the guptas + was ousted - the 2nd writing on the wall, to be followed shortly there after by the 3rd larger than life writing, when the insurrection followed - costing SA more than 300 lives, a multitude of jobs + bill's of rands in infrastructure damages. Just 1 culprit emerges, now facing a judge.
Judge Zondo proved most of it, but still SA clung to those who cheat + lie to them - with scores more boarding the fun running corruption wagon.
Then stalingrad tactics followed with him playing the victim card like a pro, with no care in the world abt what it's doing to the poor, taxes, the fiscus, the infrastructure, crime, the economy, the stature of individuals + the party they pretend to value so-o much.
And here he is again lapping up publicity with Mk, threatening to hold the country + its taxes at ransom, when his beloved party is on its weakest. Very noble + loyal of him - with the 4th writing fooling SA on the wall, pleading + promising dear love + best effort to SA.
Few ppl realise, if he walks on the multitude of charges against him, so will every looter, thief, saboteur + moneylenderer, skuldugger + traitor - or will SA embark on yet more sets of rules, supposedly to protect itself but nevertheless to erode it's assets?
How many more writings on the wall do SA want, before it starts to protect itself?
@@menziqwabe923 found the unconscious Zuma supporter
Who cares about old or new organization or congress? We want our South Africa back, where we were safe,where there was law in the country without the disturbing of NGO
When was this?
@@Mketsi2708 before 1994
@@amorakale1224 when black people were killed like dogs in their own land, where black people's existence was an inconvenience to the settlers, where black people's livestock was stolen by pink people, where black women were raped by pink males?
Pink people were safe at the expense of brown people.
So are you saying the apartheid system was the best and find yourself no longer comfortable in this democracy?
The anc taking decisive action😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really?...can this toothless bunch of thieves take decisive action?...,,can they now?
how many decisive actions will equal to an actual action taking place
Big mouth mbalula must be sweating like a pig
Joke Zuma can do whatever he wants they don't owned, him this is a democratic country mx what action chest pain 😅 period
An actual joke 😂
Zuma is still wanting to know What he as done Wrong
So JZ is a member of 3 political parties, Anc, Sanco (moonshot Pact) and MK, how confused is this cadre.
You are the one who is confused
@@Sakhephi where is the loyalty?
It's sad that there are people who still support Zuma
And Ramaphosa? I mean he's worse than Zuma
I feel the same 😡 we are where we are because of him and Cyril and MAFIAS
Goodbye Msholozi, you have done the ANC a great favour. Hamba nebhatsi lakho Nxamalala.
One set of crooks doesn't want the biggest crook? 😂😂😂😂
Zuma has lot of support in Natal the stronghold of the ruling party.
Contrary to the fact that he can't win a ward in his homeland in Inkandla, which have been under the rule of the IFP. 🤔
He gets a lot of support from IFP members as well who will not necessarily vote for his new party. The ANC must call his bluff and expel him. They were likely not gonna win KZN with/out him anyway!
Which KZN are you referring to? Not where we are living😮
Yeah. I'm also in support of Zuma........to be served justice that's LONG OVERDUE. The country is currently being Raped and Destroyed by the looting ANC thugs. Only the DA has the necessary skills and qualifications to get us out of this mess.
Zulu's? 😂
Zuma has been treated badly by anc especially ramaphosa and his friend zondo, zuma deserve better than being badly treated by anc and i support him on his move
Yes he spent like an hour in jail. Anc has treated hum badly obviously. I mean all he got was nkandla state capture failing soe incompetent leadership and municipalities.
Are you seriuous????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@elfishy1874 at some point, you need to pray that stupidity make a way from yourself! What is State Capture? Zuma was investigated by Thuli Madonsele on Inkandla case, which means Public Protector was not captured, she was also not impeached. The then CJ Mongoeng gave a guilty verdict against him, and nothing bad was done to him, and that also proves judiciary was not captured. Zuma allowed all those marches that were campaigning against him, he didn't use SA NDF to threaten them, he believe it was their democratic right to do them. Now tell me, what is his cases in the State Capture? Is he not supposed to be a number one suspect? Why is Duduzani(his son) was released, as he was the one who was working closely with the Gupta. You claim to be smart, yet you're being used by a particular gang that's using mainstream media power. How many people have been given guilty verdict by media, as opposed to courts? Ace Magashule is guilty to you, but his case has failed to start for about 4 years, what does that mean to yourself? Zandile Gumede is also guilty, but has the court issued such verdict, no. The former Public Protector Mkhwebane who was investigating the current president and his funders, which are also DA funders, was made to look bad to yourselves and was removed and you gave a big clap, siding with corruption. Musi Maimane was demoted by the DA, which resulted in him leaving the party, for opening an investigation on Ramaphosa and Busasa. All of these means nothing to you because you don't use your own head. If you wakeup now and realize that you're hacked, you're likely to die dumb!
@franslieb1056 @elfishy1874 at some point, you need to pray that stupidity make a way from yourself! What is State Capture? Zuma was investigated by Thuli Madonsele on Inkandla case, which means Public Protector was not captured, she was also not impeached. The then CJ Mongoeng gave a guilty verdict against him, and nothing bad was done to him, and that also proves judiciary was not captured. Zuma allowed all those marches that were campaigning against him, he didn't use SA NDF to threaten them, he believe it was their democratic right to do them. Now tell me, what is his cases in the State Capture? Is he not supposed to be a number one suspect? Why is Duduzani(his son) was released, as he was the one who was working closely with the Gupta. You claim to be smart, yet you're being used by a particular gang that's using mainstream media power. How many people have been given guilty verdict by media, as opposed to courts? Ace Magashule is guilty to you, but his case has failed to start for about 4 years, what does that mean to yourself? Zandile Gumede is also guilty, but has the court issued such verdict, no. The former Public Protector Mkhwebane who was investigating the current president and his funders, which are also DA funders, was made to look bad to yourselves and was removed and you gave a big clap, siding with corruption. Musi Maimane was demoted by the DA, which resulted in him leaving the party, for opening an investigation on Ramaphosa and Busasa. All of these means nothing to you because you don't use your own head. If you wakeup now and realize that you're hacked, you're likely to die dumb!
@@armandlaeremans9674 @elfishy1874 at some point, you need to pray that stupidity make a way from yourself! What is State Capture? Zuma was investigated by Thuli Madonsele on Inkandla case, which means Public Protector was not captured, she was also not impeached. The then CJ Mongoeng gave a guilty verdict against him, and nothing bad was done to him, and that also proves judiciary was not captured. Zuma allowed all those marches that were campaigning against him, he didn't use SA NDF to threaten them, he believe it was their democratic right to do them. Now tell me, what is his cases in the State Capture? Is he not supposed to be a number one suspect? Why is Duduzani(his son) was released, as he was the one who was working closely with the Gupta. You claim to be smart, yet you're being used by a particular gang that's using mainstream media power. How many people have been given guilty verdict by media, as opposed to courts? Ace Magashule is guilty to you, but his case has failed to start for about 4 years, what does that mean to yourself? Zandile Gumede is also guilty, but has the court issued such verdict, no. The former Public Protector Mkhwebane who was investigating the current president and his funders, which are also DA funders, was made to look bad to yourselves and was removed and you gave a big clap, siding with corruption. Musi Maimane was demoted by the DA, which resulted in him leaving the party, for opening an investigation on Ramaphosa and Busasa. All of these means nothing to you because you don't use your own head. If you wakeup now and realize that you're hacked, you're likely to die dumb!
Zuma never refused to appear that's what I hate about these Cyril analysts.Why not speaking the truth.Zuma requested to appear under a different judge which was declined.
Rather ignore him...he is looking for attention and relevance
There is no political party that is uncomfortable as the ANC. I am happy we witness this moment. Viva 'TENDERS' viva😂
ANC took that decision long ago when they sold JZ they sent him to prison
Ramaphosa has caused division, discontent, in ANC. He is the one who should be suspended
Zuma has caused a lot more than that have you forgotten state capture his so and the guptas?
@@1gerard47 Ramaphosa has his gupta, Pravin Gordon, selling SAA, wasting public money in Transnet and Eskom,
With his magunja (fatcake) nose 🐽 taking up all the Oxygen 😂😂
ANC is not a one man organization, Zuma is nothing but ordinary poor leader ANC have like many before and after him
O how the "mighty"is fallen..😂😂😂😂
Big nose is leading an empty ANC
ANC should focus on the land issue instead of wasting time with Zuma
Not this new ANC this is rich ANC enjoying money and high positions.. Land issues liberation ain't thier game no more
I hope it was 2022 before the expel of former SG AM. Before arresting former president JZ, I wrote a comment which was stating that; if I was a presidential adviser of the president of RSA Mr CR, to unite ANC rather than divide the party
National party only party that can bring South Africa back to glory should be brought back.
With their apartheid.
@@siyabonganxumalo4574 without apartheid just diversity and people with skills running things.
@@markhalleen5849then we are in agreement.
@@siyabonganxumalo4574 I think now there is more apartheid then before. This will be a very nice country without people with apartheid minds and corruption 🤪
Agree with you 💯💯💯💯
Zuma his so selfish it’s all about him he stole too much money but still want more money
Explain how thieves find the stolen money in phala phala
How much money did he steal, what stopped you from opening a case against him?
ANC is no more. We're going to vote for MK. We need fair change
It splits the ANC and EFF vote - as these are likely candidate voters for the MK party. SO it weakens the cause Zuma claims to be campaigning for. He is not stupid, so he's probably doing it to protect himself militarily if the court cases against him result in a guilty verdict.
That's what he wants, to stay out of jail
A real leader face music Matthew, They like it or not ANC only open a path for weak leaders to open parties, comparing a 25yrs old kid and 99yrs old is just a waist. i dont see a 25yrs old cash up to cover 74yrs of struggle, ANC changed lifes and will still do......if you want to compete ANC, is a waist no one can cover where it is now. so people should stop using others for their own benefits
ALWAYS the victim ... But sadly; there are many who will never objectively pay any attention to the quoted * Nine Wasted Years * that involved major corruption / looting that have ruined SA as a Country and its citizens ... 🥺
It does not split the EFF votes, EFF voters don't vote for the EFF because of JZ but because of the EFF policy and what we've been doing for the poor
No, it split ANC votes, EFF is for the youth
Everybody is doing his best 2 seize power, even if it means betrayal .
The definition of tsotsi. Mafia still had some style and "honour".
His not contesting but not voting and campaigning for Anc, open your eyes! And I won't be voting for MK but EFF .
@@singolo3539from bad to worse
Actually Port Natal and Kwaza Zulu Natal are becoming NEW independent Nation from RSA ! Here's where gets tricky about why ! From Port Alexzander Baii Plymouth Ramsar Basin River To Salahdra Bay maybe become the new Western Atlantic Kwaza Zulu Natal Coast Providences which incredibly recovery South Africa fiscal territory back to only a Southern Cape and Republic Valley ! Likewise A Eastern Kwaza Zulu Natal Coast and A Western Kwaza Zulu Natal Atlantic Coast! ONE nation with adoption of Lesotho and Eswentzi as North And South Natal * without practical meritocracy methods of sessions or receding from RSA could be the most unfortunate political organization of a entire Southern Africa
Many cases are waiting for him
He thinks if he can be expelled there wl be revolt
DECISIVE ACTION ?
THE ANC ?
HE HE HE !
President Zuma my foot.Which country is he the president of?
They have to be wise in making this decision.... it is not an easy one.
how many decisive actions will equal to an actual action taking place?
He made a favour for the ANC enjoyed it with Guptas he's now claiming that favour because Guptas are not going to enjoy his favours
I wish i could also never worry about brainfreeze while eating ice cream.
Zuma is the most busy fmr President and he must be careful of stroke.
Pulling such a stunt so late to prepare branches for his new party that might even loose the name in court. Chill baba and retire.
Eish true and heart attack
DogZ vs DOGZ ON KILLINGS FIELDS ?
Love or hate ANC or MK,
I think its a total disgrace that the World should see the armed birth-child of the historical ANC being used to attack its parent because of 1 individual.
The same parent who disbanded the MKMVA and treated them like rubbish because Ramaphosa didnt want them anymore
@@mfundombava9359 stop childish utterances. It never happened that way.
@@BronxWavy I think the child here is u,MKMVA was disbanded by the ANC of Ramaphosa
These anc old topies are a joke really,1st it was mavuso who resigned and went back to retract his resignation,now its zuma who campaigns for a new party but still don't resign from his party,i mean how is that possible
This is a question many of us need a answer 😮 we are really being fooled by all this ANC dimensia pensioners 😮😮😮
ANC must expelled Zuma straight away and not fear any thing in-terms of votes it’s time they kicked him out
ANC is leaderless. He is doing this deliberately so knowing nothing will never happen to him. Remember step a side. Did it apply to him? No.
He is having terrible undermining of ANC and it's President.
Yes...they may even get more votes as a result....Zuma is made to appear more powerful in KZN than he really is....call his bluff
Let them do and see.
ANC undermines him as it's former president
I'm voting for MK this time forever goodbye ANC
Zuma want to use MKVA to support him during the arms trial He must go hes very dangerous for this country he is missleader, phatha matamela phatha
Go zupta
Zuma is not alone. He's garnering support from all ANC with corrupt black mark to support him. Ramaphoria, after elections he must focus on strengthing NPA, NIA, SANDF, HAWKS and police.
but i think its the same case with Ramaphosa because he also uses the courts to support himself.
what is wrong with it
ignore him . . .
This old man has never cared about the ANC, nor has he ever cared about anyone or anything but himself. The little said about him, the better
The ANC has been losing votes, whether Zuma stays or not it has been a downward trend all along. So now they just rubber-stamping it. Msimango, Mbeki, Zuma all are still ANC members but all don't want it to win. Can we say they hate Ramaphosa to the extent of selling their ANC. I think it's time for ANC whether Zuma stay and vote, whether Thabo Mbeki stays and vote. It's just heartbreaking for this to happen now, maybe it was better after our generation
Expell Zuma once and for all
This woman is talking about economic but knowing exactly they did (her and her stoogies) sabotage our in economy to deal with Zuma
You don't know what you're talking about 😂😂😂😂😂
What? The media? That's the ANC line 'we're useless and corrupt, but the media causes it by mentioning it.' The same story as every corrupt and ineffectual dictatorship. The 'muzzle the press' playbook, just like they did in Apartheid. The power of inconvenient truths.
This is a plan between Zuma and ANC to make sure ANC stays in power to for a coalition betewwn the two parties put Zuma back in politics
Very poor analysis, in your own view you failed to think that Zuma and Ramaphosa are not friends, and you forgot that all the ANC veterans are saying that the current ANC is no longer like Mandela, Sisulu, Tambo and others, so because Zuma loved that ANC, he had to move to something that has that inheritance.
Excellent well spotted
Nope, infact this zuma mk party will merge with eff and ret anc not ramaphosa anc. Ramaphosa anc will be left with no choice but be pushed to merge with eff to avoid prosecution, then malema will be elected as SA president.
@@mzansipunters4295Malema as president....everyone knows that guy will set South Africa alight to be king of its ashes....
@@dazzybotha6564Truth and agree 1000% He dont have Presidentail Material his Disrespectful Rude Aggressive and always insult People our Counwtry will be WORSE
Wenzeni uZuma?
Arms deal corruption
@@GlenroseMakgorogo At the time he MEC for economy development in KZN. What does he have to do with something that happy on a national governments level?
It's a huge blow to ANC,,, they shouldn't have mistreated President Zuma the old man is a crowd puller!
The whole of the usless ANC should vote for other parties
Not even the excuse of a judicial system of South Africa can achieve anything against him. We actually need people like him to sort out this failing contraption of a contry! At least the Country won't have to take the World serious!
Captured Judiciary, Zondo who failed dismal to prove corruption on Zuma.
Linking dot that do not want to connect. 😕😕😕
What losses? Only the money
ANC give FPres Zuma ultimatum to retract within 7days or that he would have pronounced himself out of the party. No need for disciplinary action, he has brought the party into disrepute by announcing publicly that he will not vote nor campaign for the party and endorses opposition parties.
He does not have national power he purports to have except for big in KZN and pockets elsewhere in the country. The July nonsense has proven that.
Well it's true it's not easy to expel him from the party let's who is will begin that process, the party should have done that long time ago if they could
Really?
Zuma fought for Blacks
He never sold us to date
Jacob Zuma is a bitter man. He fears being forgotten and irrelevant He lost in his bid to make Dlhamini Zuma head of the ANC to keep his hold and access to state 'resources ' He has lost every attempt to redeem himself from accusations of corruption through the courts....so far.
With the ANC now being forced to act against Zuma and all Zuma's cronies who were part of State Capture he now has no choice but to once again play a chess move.
Gonna make his son Duduzani run gorgeous 'President' via his new Gupta financed party Umkhonto we sizwe Party.
All the Zumas and cronies want is another bite from the state cookie jar.
Zuma must fall.
Seems everyone knows how the ANC will/should react to Zuma's moronic circus! Well, at this time of the year news is scarce, so this at least keeps journalists and so-called political analysts busy instead of being bored busking in the sun.
Zuma has no problem with the ANC, he is challenging Ramaphosa and I think he feels hard done by him because he was the his right hand man during the so called "State Capture " and was part of the immense failures that are attributed to only one man who is Zuma himself, xa kungahlanganwa noba kusemgidini zinganqoza.
The less we talk about Msimang the better, he probably much weaker than the WMC deployeee. I despise man who have no conviction that's why the ANC is like this, it is led by empty suits,period!!!!
But Zuma himself who led the national AIDS efforts in Mbeki's government attributed all the HIV/AIDS policy failures to one man, Mbeki. That's how politics work.
Hendriks clearly a career politician very out of touch with reality maybe you should study other politicians
The elephant(ANC) is going down, hyanas ehen working together cant be defeated.
Jumping from a sinking ship 😂
Vote eff for free electricity free education free water jobs to the unemployed and homes to the homeless viva eff
Is klomp pot!!
Ag dankie julle!!
Well said
Why were these political parties not formed prior, opportunistic individuals waited for democracy and taken advantage to divide citizens especially the majority. 😢
The ruling party is just an umbrella, with different interest of its own , this is not the end, watch the space, let the ANC cut off srd grant. Let them leave former state man alone, for former stateman not supporting the ANC it shows that under the current leader it feels unpalatable.
My biggest concern is who is going to be Umkhonto Wesizwe Party founding president. Moreover, we are yet to establish what UMkhonto Wesizwe party stands for, it fundamental ideology.
Absolutely true
When mothlante said ANC must lose elections it's ok, but when is Zuma said it either way, it's a problem
What is your view about white monopoly capital and extent of corruption under Ramaphosa, July riots must placed on Zondo/Ramaphosa's door step
I think white monopoly capital is another nonsense slogan. It doesn't actually mean anything and is usually used by those who are angling for a handout. Like the EFF and the ANC. The next word is usually 'nationalisation.' Like the ABC can manage anything without demonstratingt incompetence and engaging in thievery and fraud.
zondo will stand trial for July unrest one day
I myself as political analyst have an idea about ANC taking action against former president Jacob Zuma is a waste due to my reasons n my way of Political understanding
The headline should be the poeple should cut their losees from anc in general
Even if JZ would campaign for the ANC they were not going to do well in the elections, the damage has already been done a long time ago, they must not think we have forgotten the GUPTAS what an embarrassment.
Agree
Ramaphosa ge a ka tlogela go rata power everything will be alright. Zuma o tlola tlola fela gore Ramaphoria a MO itshwarele(prosecution amnesty).
Zuma wa itse kwa ntle ga ANC, tronk e mo lebagane therefore Bo Ramaphoria ba nale bargaining chip
But you HAVE forgotten about the couch stuffing??😂
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 The damage was done long time ago.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 The damage was done long time ago.
Former president Mbeki is on record that he is not going to campaign for ANC, but nobody, anything about it, Zuma said it, most the media on Zuma why?