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Well, you seem to know a lot about effects and pedals, gear in general, So OK. WHAT can I use to change the HZ Frequency. that is what I want to experiment with
As a fellow millennial, "I am aware that to today's youth the 90s is as far away as were the 60s when I was young" hit me on a whole other level... Daaaaamn. I'm gonna go stare into the void now...
In my mind, 1978 is the crossover point between vintage and modern gain sounds. Plenty of evolution before and after this date, yet still it's somehow a milestone. Cheers Eddie!
Liked. Subbed. Bell clicked. It's nice to have someone explain the technical side of things without talking down to the audience. The kick ass riffage helps.
Hey Colin, would you ever consider doing a video covering differences in choosing different speakers? For example 10 inch vs 12 inch speaker or AlNiCo vs ceramic magnets.
I'm no youtuber, but I'll take a shot as an EE and a random guy that owns guitars. If you have two signals that are completely out of phase (180), you'll hear nothing (+1 + -1 = 0). That won't be the case with guitar pickups, because they are picking up similar but slightly different things based on their different positions. This isn't always a bad thing, there were guitarists in the 70s that had Les Pauls with the pickups wired out of phase that defined their signature tone. You have two questions though, which I'll address. 1) How important? It's not, that was the point of my 70s story. Most people want their pickups in phase on a Les Paul, but some don't. Most Strats are wired up with the middle pickup like the flip side of a humbucker, for good reason (to cancel hum). The real answer is, if it sounds good, it is good. 2) How do you determine it? Listen to each pickup independently, then together. Most guitars will lose a little output with multiple pickups selected (resistance working the way it does), but you should should end up with a fuller, if slightly quieter response (a slight signal loss, but mostly the positive combination of the low response of the neck + the high response of the bridge). If you put the two pickups together and it gets thinner, not just quieter, because you lose a bunch of mids, then you probably have a phase issue and those common frequencies (the commonality between the two pickups) are cancelling each other out.
We hope you can get both. Let us know how we can help . Some people may be international so we want to try and get them to them if possible. You can talk directly to us on the website.
For me the vintage distortion sounds best on single coils and the modern on humbuckers. Thanks for showing the sound on both single coils and humbuckers.
I like them both in their own way but especially the vintage. If only there somehow mix of the two: some of the vintage voicing and character with a little more tightness of the modern drive. That would be my ideal sound I think.
it's not forbidden to put a "vintage" overdrive and a distortion pedal in a row. I love the sound when most of the distortion comes from the "modern" distortion pedal but the overdrive adds some additional "roundness"/warmth to the tone. You could also use one of the pedals as a clean boost to drive the other pedal. Just don't set the combined distortion too high or everything will get muddy and overcompressed. experiment with the position, too ;)
What a difference, the Grittman sounds warm and inviting, like walking barefoot on a thick shag-pile carpet. It's warm and round with a tone of charter. The Krush on the other hand sounds like a bed of nails, cold hard and pointy. Vintage all the way.
Everson Bernardes , that’s a great question. When we were adding the EQ to the pedals we tested both ways. Post distortion sounded way better. This way it affected the overall tone. We also did a lot of testing with the frequency range and the Q points and how much the frequencies overlapped. I used plugins in pro tools to basically find the right frequencies. Thanks for the question.
@@EXGEAR thanks! Yeah, post EQ tends to be more powerful and have a bigger overall impact on the tone - if you want to tone shape, EQ after overdrive/distortion always, so you did the more generally useful thing here. That said, pre EQ allows you to change distortion characteristics somehow - hence my comment. Boost bass, distortion clips earlier, so you get more distortion, and it also sounds looser and more fuzz-like. Cut bass, goes the other way, tighter focused distortion. Chuggier, if you want. It's more subtle, but it's always neat to be able to fine tune this stuff. So maybe that's a V2 idea, add a pre/post EQ switch ;)
Magnetic force has an inverse square relationship with distance. Only a few centimetres is enough to reduce the magnetic field strength to negligible amounts. The inner electronics are in no danger due to distance. Furthermore the silicon semiconductors used in these circuits are unlikely to be vulnerable to magnetic influence anyway. Semiconductors typically need to be specially engineered, doped with metal, to be manipulated by magnetic fields.
@@ScienceofLoud Hi Colin, I discovered Ex-Gear have two more overdrives - Soul Five Overdrive and Big Blue Overdrive. I hope you can have a chance to play and review them also.....
to be fair if you want a modern metal tone you would want a modern overdrive. Add a lot of gain to your amp and with this the OD drive add lots of tone, some volume but add only a small bit of drive (or none depending on pedal and amp)
@@EXGEAR Thanks for the reply! Pretty much what I figured. Makes for a neat idea, but unless I want to add magnets to the rest of my pedals, maybe not as useful as it would otherwise be (if everyone did it on the other hand...). Now I'm thinking of velcroing a piece of steel sheet to make one play nice with an existing velcroed board, which somewhat defeats the purpose. Though even that means no sticky tape residue on the pedal if I sell it later.
I like both, but would have to take the vintage as I think it'd be way more versitile. But the modern does do something the vintage just can't manage!... Gotta be both then! 👍
A couple of tidy sounding pedals, I know it was a brief demo but you didn't show the dynamic response, or are they just blanket distortion? sort of all or nothing?
yes, it is very different. but also the same. but different. You have to think of the audio signal as a wave, let's imagine the simplest case, a sine wave. Compression would look like this: Imagine a little gnome sitting inside the compression pedal that turns down the volume every time a loud signal comes through and turns it up in silent moments. the form of the wave would be unchanged. but louder parts are made quieter and quiet parts are made louder. meaning, the dynamics of the audio signal are reduced. Saturation would look like this: imagine again a sine wave. the distortion pedal now clips off the upper and lower peaks of the sine wave. so the sine wave is turned into something in between a sine wave amd a square wave. since the peaks are clipped off, the volume of loud vs quiet parts is also more similar. this means saturation also reduces the dynamics of an audio signal, it also introduces a form of compression. but what we understand as a compressor is a device that does not change the form of the wave, while saturation changes the form of the wave. thus a signal run through a compressor still contains the same frequencies as before, while the clipping in a distortion/overdrive adds lots and lots of upper harmonics, i.e. many higher frequencies are added to the signal. the specific way in which the device "clips off" the peaks of the sound wave, or just smushes them together a bit, or even cuts off the upper peaks more than the lower peaks, is what makes the difference between an overdrive, fuzz, distortion,... but all forms of saturation have in common that the waveform is changed.
Wow! Those pedals sound completely different from each other and I don't like either one. They both sound less to me like overdrive or distortion and more like fuzz. I guess that's why they sounded least objectionable to me with the Strat. (It's an article of faith with me that fuzzes sound best with single-coils or *_really_* low-powered humbuckers. Even P-90's are marginal.) That "distortion all up and down the frequency spectrum" quality of old (early-to-mid-60's) Marshalls is what made treble boosters so effective for them, in my humble opinion. A treble booster didn't exactly tighten up the bass, it more like distorted and loosened up everything else, but that's what made them sound so mean and badass: a tight, focused bass and mayhem elsewhere. ( Free band name: _Mayhem Elsewhere_ )
Oh, Colin. You don't know what I would use those for. I already use a pair of shitty cheap humbuckers as fridge-magnets. Using magnetized pedals that the same purpose would not be out of the question for me
Magnetic bass so sound great and holds up your fabulous fridge art! so grab your guitar and the finger paints .... wait maybe crayons would be better???
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I'm using the Boss Tube Amp Expander currently which is about as fully featured as it gets. I have a video all about it. Alternatively the Two Notes Captor X is a great option, less featured but probably all most people need.
@@spaceshipable , I do apologize. I was replying quickly and gave you the box dimension. The pedal itself is: Width: 2.25, Length: 4.63, Height: 1.25 Inches. Good catch. My hat goes off to your sir. :-)
Appreciate the video, but neither of these pedals are really recreating the sound of a tube amp. I get that you can get close with solid state components, but these aren't at all close. If you (including anyone reading this) think they sound good, then it is good, but to me, they both sound like cheap (bad) solid state distortion. No really, really cheap. I'd rather overdrive a cheap clean boost or use a better pedal (I have been using a Compadre of late) than use either of these to do anything.
The Grittman is $90, Is that pricey in your opinion? Just asking. Also we made sure to use high quality parts and made sure it was sturdy and well built. As you can hear by Colin's examples he played, our big focus was on tone. China makes a lot of things by the way. Fact is China is good at making things. Thats why everything is made in China. lol. You just need to be conscious of quality control. Your mobil phone most likely spent some time in China too. Thanks for the comment.
Yes. Most things even marked "made in the US" are made in China and sub assembled in the US. And you are right, my phone was made in China and shipped over. I worked for a large computer company where most of their products were made overseas. There are lots of US based companies doing this same thing. Ironically many of the pedals are probably made in the same shop. I will also agree that you have to be careful with build quality. I have bought a Klon "clone" from China that sounded amazing. On the other hand, I have bought some pedals thinking they were "clones" of other pedals and they sounded like crap. I did a little more homework. $90 is on the high side of a pedal built from China, but not too "overly priced". The pedal sounds great. I would probably need to get my hands on one for myself and run it through its paces to see if it fits the bill for my tone and style of playing.
@@txwylde , Thanks for the reply. This is a great discussion. If you look at the design and features of this pedal, I don't think there is anything like it on the market. Illuminated knobs, shape, size, magnets, build quality, sound. Care for details. We had hoped to come in with a relatively moderate price point considering the features and current price of the current pedal landscape.. Considering there are pedals that cost $400 and others that cost $250. I've seen some boutique pedals that were $500 and up that were not reliable and the box they were in were just standard off the shelf boxes. Being hand made does not always mean they are reliable. Also we will replace any broken product. If you want to test drive it and let me know what you think Amazon has a great return policy. Again thank you for the talking points.
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What are the sonic differences between vintage and modern sounding overdrive?
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Well, you seem to know a lot about effects and pedals, gear in general, So OK. WHAT can I use to change the HZ Frequency. that is what I want to experiment with
As a fellow millennial, "I am aware that to today's youth the 90s is as far away as were the 60s when I was young" hit me on a whole other level... Daaaaamn.
I'm gonna go stare into the void now...
"Magnets, how do they wor..... oh, got it."
Great idea.
According to some filthy clowns it’s magic, but we know better 😂
i never knew that my fridge needed more pedals until i saw this video..!
In my mind, 1978 is the crossover point between vintage and modern gain sounds. Plenty of evolution before and after this date, yet still it's somehow a milestone. Cheers Eddie!
Magnets? Why the hell have we not thought of that before?
I'm off to B&Q to buy some tin steel sheeting to attach to my pedalboard
I AM IRON MAN
@@ScienceofLoud should probably watch out a little around magnets then :D
This is the best description and demonstration of vintage versus modern I have seen yet. Thank you, and well done.
I can’t get over your Dino V. I love that thing! Modern overdrive all the way 🤘🏻
Modern drive is a lot better with the V, it's got all the tightness needed to keep hot humbuckers under control.
Decorate fridge with pedals, you say? Off to buy that Marshall amp beer fridge!
Liked. Subbed. Bell clicked. It's nice to have someone explain the technical side of things without talking down to the audience. The kick ass riffage helps.
The sound of that Flying V makes me tingle in bad places.
those are good places, friend.
good places.
Vintage OD - buttering knife
Modern 90s OD - sharpened chefs knife
Modern 2020sc OD - samurai sword
the tele and the grittman is killer
Honestly, I prefer the vintage. It just sounds more pleasing to my ears, even though I can't really explain why...
Because it is an awesome sound. Especially on the single coil guitar.
i wonder how much the eq settings on both pedals played into this.
This is quite relaxing
Hey Colin, would you ever consider doing a video covering differences in choosing different speakers? For example 10 inch vs 12 inch speaker or AlNiCo vs ceramic magnets.
12" speaker = good low end
10" speaker = sits well in the mix
AlNiCo = bright and clear
Ceramic = warm and muddy
That intro was fantastic, just like your outros
I would have a nightmare playing that high gain one on stage. The vintage one is very nice though.
TY! Im initially leaning towards the vintage sound. Better get them both. Just in case...
May the algorithm be ever in your favour.
TATA: How important is it that the pickups are in phase with each other. How do we determine if our guitar pickups are in phase? :)
I'm no youtuber, but I'll take a shot as an EE and a random guy that owns guitars. If you have two signals that are completely out of phase (180), you'll hear nothing (+1 + -1 = 0). That won't be the case with guitar pickups, because they are picking up similar but slightly different things based on their different positions. This isn't always a bad thing, there were guitarists in the 70s that had Les Pauls with the pickups wired out of phase that defined their signature tone. You have two questions though, which I'll address. 1) How important? It's not, that was the point of my 70s story. Most people want their pickups in phase on a Les Paul, but some don't. Most Strats are wired up with the middle pickup like the flip side of a humbucker, for good reason (to cancel hum). The real answer is, if it sounds good, it is good. 2) How do you determine it? Listen to each pickup independently, then together. Most guitars will lose a little output with multiple pickups selected (resistance working the way it does), but you should should end up with a fuller, if slightly quieter response (a slight signal loss, but mostly the positive combination of the low response of the neck + the high response of the bridge). If you put the two pickups together and it gets thinner, not just quieter, because you lose a bunch of mids, then you probably have a phase issue and those common frequencies (the commonality between the two pickups) are cancelling each other out.
Next time my parents ask "What's wrong?" I'm going to show them 1:08
Man the Krush is right up my alley
We want you to have one. Lets us know how we can help.
Awesome overdrive my friend.
There's just something about sag that sounds so broken, but so cool at the same time, that's why I love Rats so much.
The grittman is absolutely *chef's kiss*
It does that old spitty drive wonderfully, especially with the single coils.
@@ScienceofLoud ye lovely meaty sound out of it
Both sound great, just different tools for different jobs. Pretty sure they would compliment each other well in a 2 guitar set up an aw
I've used them for different songs and situations. We also have several more to choose.
“Gain,” appreciation.
I see what you did there. 😉
Having moved from Scotland to the south of England, I haven’t heard “Jai” TM in a while, hahaha. Great stuff Colin
They both sound awesome and I want both. I can always find a use for both in my comps.
We hope you can get both. Let us know how we can help . Some people may be international so we want to try and get them to them if possible. You can talk directly to us on the website.
@@EXGEAR All I said was I wanted both. I want a 1966 Harley-Davidson Shovelhead too, doesn't mean I'm going to get one.
For me the vintage distortion sounds best on single coils and the modern on humbuckers.
Thanks for showing the sound on both single coils and humbuckers.
Yes, the demonstration on the different guitars was nice.
That V is a Beast !! It drives that pedal>amp sooo much harder than the singles.
It's got some heat in those buckers. It shows just how much difference the guitar makes to the final sound.
that V + humbuckers + the Jrush... whoa \m/
1:08 I know how you feel. It ain’t good, but it ain’t permanent either.
I like them both in their own way but especially the vintage. If only there somehow mix of the two: some of the vintage voicing and character with a little more tightness of the modern drive. That would be my ideal sound I think.
it's not forbidden to put a "vintage" overdrive and a distortion pedal in a row. I love the sound when most of the distortion comes from the "modern" distortion pedal but the overdrive adds some additional "roundness"/warmth to the tone. You could also use one of the pedals as a clean boost to drive the other pedal. Just don't set the combined distortion too high or everything will get muddy and overcompressed. experiment with the position, too ;)
The grittman had a nashville vibe, might snag that for some country projects.
It definitely had a cool sound with the single coil guitar Colin was using.
That Gritman has me nostalgic for... well something... not sure what but now I need one for my fridge
Awesome ♥️🦖🌸
🤗 Thank you, lovely!
What a difference, the Grittman sounds warm and inviting, like walking barefoot on a thick shag-pile carpet. It's warm and round with a tone of charter. The Krush on the other hand sounds like a bed of nails, cold hard and pointy. Vintage all the way.
Thanks for the comment. 💪
And people called me crazy for wanting to turn my fridge into an amplifier. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW
Imagine using your fridge for food 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ShredAimlessly92 That'd be stupid
A "Carry out" is a few tins in a polly bag
Na Bass players have had fridges for years, normally 8x10 Ampegs
The Grittman reminds me of a slightly smoothed out Proco Rat, which definitely makes it the clear choice.
Just a little EQ before the Grittman to cut some bass, add a bit of mids to tighten it up a liiiiittle bit and it sounds baller.
The Grittman has a 3 band EQ also. Maybe the adjustments you are suggesting would be managable on the pedal.
@@EXGEAR Pre or post distortion?
Everson Bernardes , that’s a great question. When we were adding the EQ to the pedals we tested both ways. Post distortion sounded way better. This way it affected the overall tone. We also did a lot of testing with the frequency range and the Q points and how much the frequencies overlapped. I used plugins in pro tools to basically find the right frequencies. Thanks for the question.
@@EXGEAR thanks! Yeah, post EQ tends to be more powerful and have a bigger overall impact on the tone - if you want to tone shape, EQ after overdrive/distortion always, so you did the more generally useful thing here.
That said, pre EQ allows you to change distortion characteristics somehow - hence my comment. Boost bass, distortion clips earlier, so you get more distortion, and it also sounds looser and more fuzz-like. Cut bass, goes the other way, tighter focused distortion. Chuggier, if you want.
It's more subtle, but it's always neat to be able to fine tune this stuff. So maybe that's a V2 idea, add a pre/post EQ switch ;)
I get that I'm late to this dance, but what is the name/artist of the tune you're playing from about 7 minutes to 7:10? Been stuck in my head all day.
my fridge door would be absolutely inundated with these pedals XD
The vintage pedal is like early Judas Priest in a box!
Magnetics? What about emf interference in the semiconductor?
Magnetic force has an inverse square relationship with distance.
Only a few centimetres is enough to reduce the magnetic field strength to negligible amounts.
The inner electronics are in no danger due to distance.
Furthermore the silicon semiconductors used in these circuits are unlikely to be vulnerable to magnetic influence anyway.
Semiconductors typically need to be specially engineered, doped with metal, to be manipulated by magnetic fields.
The modern Krush Overdrive for my ears.
I usually don't like red guitars, but when I do, it's that strat
Although I've bought 4 new overdrives this fortnight (lol, 7 pedals all up!), I am still quite into the idea of checking out the Krush some more... !
Let us know how we can help you get one. You can email to the website or talk directly from the chat on the website pages at ex-gear.
BOTH are good sounding dirt pedals! I prefered the Vintage sounding 1, more mids.
Vintage for the resale value
P. S. Colin, how about a studio tour showing how you make vids?
That V sounds immense hahahaha
It's a monster, I love it.
Awesome guitar.
I don't want to sound like a soppy tart, but your playing has been so tight lately
Pre-amp tube distortion is stored in the balls
Modern is sweet, vintage is savory
For me both pedals will be very useful for me. For someone who plays everything from Sinatra to Metallica - I can use both.
That's the beauty of pedals: as many sounds as you need right there at your feet.
@@ScienceofLoud most affirmative Colin!
@@ScienceofLoud Hi Colin, I discovered Ex-Gear have two more overdrives - Soul Five Overdrive and Big Blue Overdrive. I hope you can have a chance to play and review them also.....
to be fair if you want a modern metal tone you would want a modern overdrive. Add a lot of gain to your amp and with this the OD drive add lots of tone, some volume but add only a small bit of drive (or none depending on pedal and amp)
Are the magnets strong enough to hold if there's already velcro on the pedal board? I'm assuming no, but seems worth asking.
Anything in the way would impede the magnets some. So best to take the velcro off.
@@EXGEAR Thanks for the reply! Pretty much what I figured. Makes for a neat idea, but unless I want to add magnets to the rest of my pedals, maybe not as useful as it would otherwise be (if everyone did it on the other hand...). Now I'm thinking of velcroing a piece of steel sheet to make one play nice with an existing velcroed board, which somewhat defeats the purpose. Though even that means no sticky tape residue on the pedal if I sell it later.
I like both, but would have to take the vintage as I think it'd be way more versitile. But the modern does do something the vintage just can't manage!... Gotta be both then! 👍
Can never have too many pedals.
I think the vintage has much more character. Running the vintage into a good amp distortion would get some good fuzz tones
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"gain appreciation" nice
A couple of tidy sounding pedals, I know it was a brief demo but you didn't show the dynamic response, or are they just blanket distortion? sort of all or nothing?
It's more that I'm an all or nothing player.
Many different options with the pedals. They have EQs with adjustments to the gain and the Krush has a meat knob that tightens up the low end.
What does saturation really mean? Is it different than compression?
yes, it is very different. but also the same. but different. You have to think of the audio signal as a wave, let's imagine the simplest case, a sine wave. Compression would look like this: Imagine a little gnome sitting inside the compression pedal that turns down the volume every time a loud signal comes through and turns it up in silent moments. the form of the wave would be unchanged. but louder parts are made quieter and quiet parts are made louder. meaning, the dynamics of the audio signal are reduced. Saturation would look like this: imagine again a sine wave. the distortion pedal now clips off the upper and lower peaks of the sine wave. so the sine wave is turned into something in between a sine wave amd a square wave. since the peaks are clipped off, the volume of loud vs quiet parts is also more similar. this means saturation also reduces the dynamics of an audio signal, it also introduces a form of compression. but what we understand as a compressor is a device that does not change the form of the wave, while saturation changes the form of the wave. thus a signal run through a compressor still contains the same frequencies as before, while the clipping in a distortion/overdrive adds lots and lots of upper harmonics, i.e. many higher frequencies are added to the signal. the specific way in which the device "clips off" the peaks of the sound wave, or just smushes them together a bit, or even cuts off the upper peaks more than the lower peaks, is what makes the difference between an overdrive, fuzz, distortion,... but all forms of saturation have in common that the waveform is changed.
God I want a tele like that
wow ive never been here this early
Welcome to the early showing, thank you for being here.
@@ScienceofLoud Thank you for the free content! I know it takes a ton of work to make good content like this!
Thank you, it's nice that my work is appreciated. Plenty more to come.
Tbh the sound of rock music hasn’t fundamentally changed since the mid 2000s
Earlier than the 301 club
There's a reference I'm old enough to understand.
Wow! Those pedals sound completely different from each other and I don't like either one. They both sound less to me like overdrive or distortion and more like fuzz. I guess that's why they sounded least objectionable to me with the Strat. (It's an article of faith with me that fuzzes sound best with single-coils or *_really_* low-powered humbuckers. Even P-90's are marginal.)
That "distortion all up and down the frequency spectrum" quality of old (early-to-mid-60's) Marshalls is what made treble boosters so effective for them, in my humble opinion. A treble booster didn't exactly tighten up the bass, it more like distorted and loosened up everything else, but that's what made them sound so mean and badass: a tight, focused bass and mayhem elsewhere. ( Free band name: _Mayhem Elsewhere_ )
how did you know that i'd decorate my fridge door with those pedals? :P
Magnetized pedals?
Cool, man!
1:09 I'm tagged in this picture and I don't like it
Huh..?
Nothing more relatable than the existential dread of getting old
Oh, Colin. You don't know what I would use those for. I already use a pair of shitty cheap humbuckers as fridge-magnets. Using magnetized pedals that the same purpose would not be out of the question for me
Magnetic bass so sound great and holds up your fabulous fridge art! so grab your guitar and the finger paints .... wait maybe crayons would be better???
Wonder what they'd sound like together. 🤔
We do a live show on the Facebook and RUclips Friday nights at 7pm California time. Stop by and we can demo that for you. Good question.
Me: Man its been a rough year. At least CSGuitars can provide me the escape I need.
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Me: Yup. We're in Hellworld. Sigh. At least I can get nice pedals.
So true.
What does contour do in an amp?
Contour is basically a fancy word for mids.
Have you found any decent ways to emulate tube amp voltage sag without needing to blow the windows out of the house?
That's exactly why I use an attenuator now. Amps are always cranked, but stay at sensible indoor volumes.
@@ScienceofLoud what attenuators do you recommend? I use the Radial Head Load Prodigy as a loadbox, but it doesn't really bring the volume down much
I'm using the Boss Tube Amp Expander currently which is about as fully featured as it gets. I have a video all about it.
Alternatively the Two Notes Captor X is a great option, less featured but probably all most people need.
I think you could both use for the tamer genres of metal. Not for modern metal death grind core and the lot of course.
What are the dimensions for these pedals?
Length: 5.70, Width: 3.54, Height: 2.56 Inches. Not a mini pedal but wider. matches your foot with the slanted front end.
@@EXGEAR That seems huge compared to the pictures I've seen of it
@@spaceshipable , I do apologize. I was replying quickly and gave you the box dimension. The pedal itself is: Width: 2.25, Length: 4.63, Height: 1.25 Inches. Good catch. My hat goes off to your sir. :-)
@@EXGEAR That's great thank you so much!
Good description of the differences but I’m not that keen on either of them.
All good. Not for everyone. We have several others to choose from also that are overdrive or distortion related.
Oh shit they're magnetic, I can stick them to the base of my chair!
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The lesson learned is if you want to make something modern, paint it black.
It's a good start
And to make something vintage, cover it with chrome
Matte Black. :-)
Yes! Gloss is SO 1960s....
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy lol Yea, who does gloss anymore. Now they want it dark and rough looking.
its kinda funny but Boss hm and metal zone counts as a vintage distortion at this point.
metal zone is closer to the moon landing than to the present day. i think.
Krush not meant for metal?? Yeah right thats some great tones for metal. Would do megadeth well and even sabaton
We have a Metal Pedal also. But, yes the Krush can pull off metal. Thanks for checking out the video and the comment.
Krush sounded way too compressed for my taste. Maybe it's just the settings you were using
With the "Meat" setting knob it can be set to be more open sounding. More almost like a fuzz.
They sound different, but like... not different enough.
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overdrive. always. need more? another overdrive.
gritman seems fuzzy
Krush..ING feeling of millennials 😭😭😭
Wanna be that cool kid? Get sum vintage pedals and stick them to your fridge.
Appreciate the video, but neither of these pedals are really recreating the sound of a tube amp. I get that you can get close with solid state components, but these aren't at all close. If you (including anyone reading this) think they sound good, then it is good, but to me, they both sound like cheap (bad) solid state distortion. No really, really cheap. I'd rather overdrive a cheap clean boost or use a better pedal (I have been using a Compadre of late) than use either of these to do anything.
if you can solder, there are some pretty cool diy tube pedals out there.
For sure, and I have tube gear which I prefer a lot. My point was more that these weren't bad because they are solid state, they're just bad.
1:15, Yea you and I could be friends. I can't let go, this new world is different and scary lol
Why was Krank cringeworthy in the 00's? I'm curious about that
You misunderstand: the entire 00s were cringeworthy and Krank were the most 00s thing to ever exist.
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Kinda pricey for pedals made in China. :(
The Grittman is $90, Is that pricey in your opinion? Just asking. Also we made sure to use high quality parts and made sure it was sturdy and well built. As you can hear by Colin's examples he played, our big focus was on tone. China makes a lot of things by the way. Fact is China is good at making things. Thats why everything is made in China. lol. You just need to be conscious of quality control. Your mobil phone most likely spent some time in China too. Thanks for the comment.
Yes. Most things even marked "made in the US" are made in China and sub assembled in the US. And you are right, my phone was made in China and shipped over. I worked for a large computer company where most of their products were made overseas. There are lots of US based companies doing this same thing. Ironically many of the pedals are probably made in the same shop. I will also agree that you have to be careful with build quality. I have bought a Klon "clone" from China that sounded amazing. On the other hand, I have bought some pedals thinking they were "clones" of other pedals and they sounded like crap. I did a little more homework. $90 is on the high side of a pedal built from China, but not too "overly priced". The pedal sounds great. I would probably need to get my hands on one for myself and run it through its paces to see if it fits the bill for my tone and style of playing.
@@txwylde , Thanks for the reply. This is a great discussion. If you look at the design and features of this pedal, I don't think there is anything like it on the market. Illuminated knobs, shape, size, magnets, build quality, sound. Care for details. We had hoped to come in with a relatively moderate price point considering the features and current price of the current pedal landscape.. Considering there are pedals that cost $400 and others that cost $250. I've seen some boutique pedals that were $500 and up that were not reliable and the box they were in were just standard off the shelf boxes. Being hand made does not always mean they are reliable. Also we will replace any broken product. If you want to test drive it and let me know what you think Amazon has a great return policy. Again thank you for the talking points.