@2:12 you make an assumption of 1 morning route and 1 night route. Our schools buses had at least 2 times, one for the highschool and one for elementary and middle. In rural areas where I was from each route was more like 40 to 50 miles with elevation changes of 400 to 800 feet (upstate NY) with temps often below 32.
I was going to say the same thing. Plus some buses will have a third "late" route for the high school students. Plus any routes that may be needed into the evening to support extra-curricular activities (think sports).
The total cost of ownership at @16:15 does not seem to include the cost of the charging infrastructure. If you expect the buses to charge overnight, the school district's bus yard is going to need to build all those charging stations. Don't think charging a fleet buses at a public charging station would be realistic.
There was a graphic that showed a $20,000 grant/credit in addition to the $300,000+ for the bus itself. Also, the end comparison didn't include any potential Vehicle To Grid savings.
@@theepichamster1443 I mean you can do the math. Batteries typically cost so much per kilowatt hour, and since the desired mileage is less it's not like these are ridiculously big batteries. No reason I should cost 3x it's no coincidence that the price and the tax incentive is the exact same.
I'm a major proponent of solar panels on all EV roofs, but it seems to many manufacturers & buyers that they don't offer enough charging power & cost too much. However, this could be offset by Vehicle To Grid charging, especially in the summer when the busses don't move & the grid is strained by air conditioning use.
So the coast is three hundred % more per bus. Then the school has to buy the charger for each bus. They have to install each charging station. And then the electricity needed to charge the bus has to be produced by a coal burning electric power plant. So the truth is that it's not really as eco friendly as people believe... Also when the current electrical system is not big enough to supply the current demand the addition of fleets of ev busses will be a bigger strain on the grid... The current cost of electric power is climbing and more demand means more increases in the billing.. So it's more expensive. Doesn't help the environment. And is a huge drain on a already strained electric grid How is it better?
There are grants/credits that offer $300,000+ for each bus & $20,000 for each charger, as shown in the video. The busses would likely be charging during the off-peak times of grid demand, as shown in the video. There are many areas that have electricity generated by wind, solar, or hydro power. There are some valid points on both sides of the idea of EV busses & the actual truth is usually in the middle.
@2:12 you make an assumption of 1 morning route and 1 night route. Our schools buses had at least 2 times, one for the highschool and one for elementary and middle. In rural areas where I was from each route was more like 40 to 50 miles with elevation changes of 400 to 800 feet (upstate NY) with temps often below 32.
I was going to say the same thing. Plus some buses will have a third "late" route for the high school students. Plus any routes that may be needed into the evening to support extra-curricular activities (think sports).
0:58 pretty sure Type C buses come in Petrol & LPG drivetrains as well.
The total cost of ownership at @16:15 does not seem to include the cost of the charging infrastructure. If you expect the buses to charge overnight, the school district's bus yard is going to need to build all those charging stations. Don't think charging a fleet buses at a public charging station would be realistic.
There was a graphic that showed a $20,000 grant/credit in addition to the $300,000+ for the bus itself. Also, the end comparison didn't include any potential Vehicle To Grid savings.
my school just got all of the ion eletrics
That mark up is appalling
It is an assumption and I do not believe it is true.
@@theepichamster1443 I mean you can do the math. Batteries typically cost so much per kilowatt hour, and since the desired mileage is less it's not like these are ridiculously big batteries. No reason I should cost 3x it's no coincidence that the price and the tax incentive is the exact same.
Can you post the links?
Ummm, where are your provided links at? F-
add a solarpanel on the roof?
Too much money
I'm a major proponent of solar panels on all EV roofs, but it seems to many manufacturers & buyers that they don't offer enough charging power & cost too much. However, this could be offset by Vehicle To Grid charging, especially in the summer when the busses don't move & the grid is strained by air conditioning use.
So the coast is three hundred % more per bus.
Then the school has to buy the charger for each bus.
They have to install each charging station.
And then the electricity needed to charge the bus has to be produced by a coal burning electric power plant.
So the truth is that it's not really as eco friendly as people believe... Also when the current electrical system is not big enough to supply the current demand the addition of fleets of ev busses will be a bigger strain on the grid...
The current cost of electric power is climbing and more demand means more increases in the billing..
So it's more expensive.
Doesn't help the environment.
And is a huge drain on a already strained electric grid
How is it better?
There are grants/credits that offer $300,000+ for each bus & $20,000 for each charger, as shown in the video.
The busses would likely be charging during the off-peak times of grid demand, as shown in the video.
There are many areas that have electricity generated by wind, solar, or hydro power.
There are some valid points on both sides of the idea of EV busses & the actual truth is usually in the middle.
I would be scared that the kids would be burned in a EV fire.
Why would you be worried about that since gas vehicle fires are 100x more likely than an EV fire, illogical
Did you even watch the video..?
Nope do not get on that Bus