I’m 90% sure I went to school with Maggie and was friends with her in Elementary school. She used to get bullied because she was different but she was always nice. I remember this girl. If this is really her this is so sad. I lost contact with everyone in my hometown when I moved to a new city. I can’t believe that this is what her life lead to.
Why did they take the body with them when they moved? It’s obvious…they didn’t want her to be found so they can keep receiving her checks. How disgusting 🤮
Poor little one :( my daughter had a heart transplant almost 9yrs ago and I would die so she could be healthy and have a normal life with a normal prognosis. These people make me sick. They did not deserve her.
My heart hurts for that little boy. I live in Sacramento and I know from experience working with children with special needs to not use force to put someone down especially a child. This case is so sad because I cannot even imagine what that boy went through. These were adults working with these children, they should have known better. Empathy goes a long way and these people didn't have it. It's just so messed up. RIP kiddo
If they can't use force, what are they supposed to do? Autistic kids (and adults) can be very violent. They can go into rages that are extremely difficult to stop. That child could cause harm to staff and other children while they are not using force to stop them. People love to say what everyone shouldn't do, but they don't ever explain what they *should* do.
I'm autistic and I used to work at a school for neurodivergent children as special education teacher. I left after 5 days. The way they treated those children. You can call as a mandated reporter but nothing was done. School is still open.
Precisely! I have a first cousin who has severe autism and I've been very close to him since he was born, he's an adult now and he's so special, loving and kind and all he wants is to be loved and hugged and to be with family, ALL THE TIME. That's all he cares about and I can't even imagine someone doing this to him when he was a child having these same type of episodes/outburts, however you choose to label them. He had NO CONTROL over it. They don't know or understand why they do things like spitting, screaming, hitting themselves, etc, if they did they wouldn't do it. This just enrages me to no end!!!
@@cjdodgeprimecrime its despicable truly. Makes me sick. I babysit a low functioning boy who is 17 he has seizures and mobility issues bless his heart. He is the sweetest thing someone told my friend who i share babysitting duties with that "hes violent" and" she doesn't want to take the job".. and my friend loves him as do i. He is not even a little violent. He is affectionate sometimes and doesn't realize his strength but he is not violent. People disgust me.
@@adrialee8149 I just don't understand people like that! Maybe he just doesn't like her and senses that she is not nice!! That's what it sounds more like to me!
I went to school with a girl who was wheelchair bound and also had extreme autism as well. She would go into fits where she would scream in the middle of lunch or start trying to bite herself or other people so the teacher whenever she would do this she would hold her hands while walking her out out and then take her somewhere to help her calm down she was in school with me all 4 years of high school and not once did they ever have to restrain her for an hour and 45 minutes. Even if she bit them. There is absolutely no excuse for what these people did to that little boy whatsoever. They handled it the wrong way if they're not willing to accept that the they are in no position to ever work a job around special needs children. They knew what they were doing was wrong because there is no way that this boy wasn't getting more upset the longer he was being restrained like that because he couldn't understand what was going on.
I have been in the mental health field for a while, I used to work in a facility with physically aggressive individuals. We have been chased with forks, the building lit on fire, staff has been beat up multiple times, a coworker even lost her fetus from an attack. Our local police station told us we could no longer call them for assistance since it was supposed to be our job to control them. Many times, we had individuals running down a highway, but the only way an officer would come out to help is when someone else in the community called them to report someone running down the highway. It's sad, but we need more resources for people with special needs, more care centers, more staff, more support.
I worked in a center like that two years ago. We had a child who had been in a psychotic break for three solid days and the school wouldn't have her admitted. I got hit in the back of the head after I walked into the room by this child (didn't even know the kid was coming down the hallway and I had my back turned - I was in no way a threat) where I received a traumatic brain injury. The school told me it was my fault because I should have known to get out of the way and the police department wouldn't press criminal charges because it's the school's job to keep the kids in line. The center closed last year due to the MULTIPLE lawsuits from prior staff (I am not on that list, oddly enough, I chose the workman's comp route and refused to sign an NDA).
So heartbreaking and sickening. Seems like she just wanted to be loved by family and yet they only looked at her as an inconvenience but also as their source of income. 😔
I have a child with autism who has very violent outbursts, she is only 8 years old, but has the strength of a teenager, she kicks, punches and scratches sometimes for unknown reasons, her teachers experience her violent episodes a couple of times a week, and they are troopers for what they do everyday! I can tell you with certainty, there is a lack of training for the staff having to deal with an increasing number of children with autism and other disabilities. My heart goes out to the parents who lost their child, but we need more conversations about this to help the school systems, and most importantly the children. Great podcast as usual, I love when Josh is on, and I love his sidebar show!
Hi Kathy. Just curious, has your dr suggested any medications to “take the edge off” so your child can focus at school better? How is sleeping? Diet? There’s a few things you can try to help with that but I completely agree with you. I have three autistic boys. And one “normal” son. Thank goodness he’s the oldest and has always been a tremendous help. I hope you are getting help from family/friends. Also if you’re uncomfortable answering, no worries. I was just thinking of things I have tried over the years. Good luck honey.
@@roser6963 Hi Rose, she has been prescribed medicine, but it has to forced down her throat and we won’t do that.. she’s a very picky eater, but luckily she likes fresh cut vegetables, fruit, boiled eggs, cheese,grilled chicken, plain rice and Oreos lol. This is mainly what she eats daily. She sleeps pretty normal, about 10 hours a night. She has 3 older “normal” siblings, they help a lot and her dad is a big help too. I’m open to suggestions, and wish you the best. It can get really stressful for parents too. Hang in there! ❤️
@@brownin329 I don’t disagree, but I do think many of them aren’t fit for the job they are being asked to do. I have one child that I have to work with and it’s hard for me. I couldn’t imagine having multiple at one time.
Thank you for covering the Oklahoma case in this podcast. I live in that same town and remember how it really shook up the college students since the body was found beneath the stairs of the house. We don't get publicized crimes of this nature nearly as often as OKC so for a while people were afraid of a killer on the same street they lived on. Absolutely chilling that she was actually a SIBLING of the perpetrator. Makes me sick to my stomach that there are monsters out there willing to kill their own flesh and blood solely for money. As if abusing a disabled person wasn't horrid enough, exploiting her posthumously? Absolutely disgusting. Who knows how many other people like Maggie are being subjected to fates like this? It's so sad.
Thank you for sharing these terrible cases against such vulnerable people. As a former special education teacher and autism behavioral specialist this is just so heartbreaking. I worked with children with severe autism and significant behavioral issues. Never would I have restrained anyone for an hour let alone almost 2 hours! So infuriating!
These aids need to be vetted better. Seems almost anyone can become an aid working with special needs children. Especially since all the help they can get is definitely needed. The aid turnover rate in our schools is outrageous, with so many having drug, alcohol, and criminal histories. The mother of my cousins was someone just like this who worked in the classroom with children. While she's had several cps reports and investigations on her record, ultimately having them taken away. She was never fired, has her credentials still, and could go back to work at any time. My sister is a teacher, and she has had to report several ed aids. At least 2 a year. When it came time for my autistic son, who was non verbal to go to school, I was already so nervous about the people left in charge of his care. Luckily, his first couple years of school he had wonderful teachers and aids, but his last 3 years were so horrific, it was almost traumatic, and it stresses me out thinking about what these people put my son and me thru. They were so bad, one incident my son came home with bruises perfectly shaped as hands on his thighs as if someone was forcing him down into his wheelchair. I had to report it to the police. Another incident was me hearing my sons sobbing cries from down the street as I waited for his bus. Turns out, they had his window down, in the middle of winter, with him being soaked with urine all the way up his back. They said they had the window down to calm him down. But it was obvious they did it to punish him as they knew he didn't like the wind blowing on him, especially when being soaked. He was shivering so bad, and i cried so much from seeing my son suffer in such a wat., It makes me sick. It was hell with all of the battles, and back and forth reporting, meetings, and fighting. When we finally got our son transferred, I couldn't handle even looking at a school or talking to anyone from a school. Luckily my husband took charge of anything school related from then on.
@@katalinacastanares4602 oh my goodness I’m so very sorry for you and your son. This breaks my heart. You are absolutely correct about how awful so many educational aids are. I dealt with it quite often. I always treated my students the way I would want my own son to be treated. I’m praying that things have Improved and that your son is treated with the best care! ❤️🙏
That poor boy! Those teachers were negligent I agree. Hope the parents get true justice for what had happened to their kid! Thanks Ana and Josh for the amazing podcast again!
I am a full time carer for my severely disabled adult son, and i can categorically say this is DEF a failure in the system, if someone is on state benefits then the state should be involved in their care, but from experience i know that these people who are paid to care, really dont! Of course we know their workload is massive but you dont go into a job like that and then checkout your responsibilities at the door!! Sadly this happens too often children and adults with disabilities and special needs come WAY down the pecking order. Breaks my heart i worry so much what will happen to my son when im not here to care for him.
I've been wanting to try to start a petition to get law enforcement and teachers training for special needs. I've heard of too many people with mental disorders being hurt or even killed and it's ridiculous
I know in Georgia and California, Special Ed teachers need a Master's in Education. I took a few basic classes in that field and learned how to deal with a large variety of special needs. This sounds like lack of accountability on the teacher's part. It sounds like the school fulfilling the basic requirements and running a business instead of an institution that really cares for and respects the children. I would have to say accountability on the cops' part too. Yes, they need more and special training, but if they used compassion snd the tools for protecting and serving, they would not be as quick to harm children who are ill in some way. Many cops don't treat their family like they treat the public, so they can't really claim they don't know how to work with these children without hurting or killing them. It's really not rocket science. Priorities of the children's safety needs to come before anything else. Punishment should not take center stage on these situations. These are easily teaching moments for child and teacher/cops. I'm not saying it's easy, but have enough common sense to say, I don't know what to do in this situation. Let me get or talk to someone who does. I'm not a mother. I don't know how to deal with autistic children. I do know everyone has limitations and personal needs. Give people space and let them be who they need to be as the situation is worked through. I have not heard of any autistic person or even non-disabled person act better after they are restrained and controlled when they are already upset. Again, common sense.
Thank you! People need to be properly informed in this area. It’s very sad that special needs individuals suffer at the hands of those that are supposed to be caring for them and supporting their needs.
@@Jahtutson they are supposed to but all too often that doesn't happen and it CERTAINLY doesn't happen in residential settings for children with special needs
The Max Benson story broke my heart - there’s no question that teaching staff (especially with special needs) are overworked, undertrained and probably overwhelmed, but in almost two hours, not one of them thought “this isn’t right”? Would they treat their own children that way? I just don’t see any excuse for it carrying on for such a prolonged period of time.
This isn't true at all in California. They have extra people, and short hours at school, and extra aides, and extra staff for security. You're thinking of a regular school.
He did not die in vain. They have made changes in restraining kiddos. My son was in a behavior program. They locked in him a closet Type room for time out. He came Home and told me they fed him lunch in the time out room and he urinated in that room, they wouldn't let him go. The was the last time my winner t in that room. I was livid. The following year the laws had changed and it was no longer allowed. My son got so many injuries being forced into time oit proper to everything happening.
Maggie’s body was found in a house, not an apartment building. The house picture came up. Thanks for covering this. It shocked and saddened everyone in town. Poor Maggie.
These women knew exactly what they were walking into or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, when they made the choice to work with special needs children and I hope and pray that they are prosecuted to the FULLEST extent the law provides! Anyone with a brain in their head knows that what those women did to this child is WRONG! PERIOD! Thank God the DA overruled the sheriff's stupid opinion! Unbelievable!!!
I am going to comment every time I see Josh Ritter or Luis Belanos on the show to let you know how much I love them! Best guests! I love them, and you Ana! Thanks for the podcast!
There r good criminal attys out there! Josh made me think of shows like Matlock & Perry Mason. We just see the Ted Cruzs on the News. I forgot about the 1s in white hats.
Ana, as someone who has worked with children and been a very vocal child advocate I can tell you those who stand up for children can been eaten alive by civil threats, vested interests and just plain bad people. Soccer moms can be ruthless. I reported children being handled very roughly (these are 2-year olds btw) with seven pages of documentation. Instead of looking into my report or even doing something perfunctory as asking me a single question, the school board hired an attorney who promptly sent a letter stating that I would face “all available legal recourse” if I did not keep quiet about what I witnessed. In other words, punitive lawfare. I was also promptly fired. The people who helped cover the situation up were promoted. What was more frustrating was I found out just after I submitted my report that I was the THIRD employee (out of a staff of less than 20) to have been fired for similar reasons within the past 18 months, and parents knew about both other cases. Instead of demanding the school look into my report - the victims are their children after all - they completely threw me under the bus. None said they doubted what I said was true (multiple parents later asked if it was their child that had been involved) but rather that the social implications of appearing to siding with me was undesirable. Their kids and those of the board members attended the same social gatherings, were on the same sports teams, et cetera and that would be awkward for them. These are the supposed pillars of the community. The end result was I was a pariah because I had the audacity to put children’s welfare above my job and social ascension.
I would love to provide some commentary on the Podcast!!! It would be a dream come true. 🥰 Good to see Josh on the show, I have been watching his as well. Thank you Ana and Josh
These are both such heartbreaking cases. I hope that those involved are punished to the fullest extent of the law and this sweet young woman and that precious teenage boy are at peace now. 💗
School Districts need to provide a fully trained in house Crisis Team as well as provide Teachers a Panic button in the classroom setting just like in the Mental Health Sector.
They do indeed, they won't though, as usual everything revolves around money... If they don't have the money to pay the people they aren't going to go work there. It's so EXTREMELY sad, especially because the schools that USUALLY need the most attention/help with crisis counseling or just counseling of any type, in general, are the schools in the lower money bracket areas or complete poverty areas and those schools get even LESS MONEY than the rest of the schools. It's terrible. Schools should have enough funding for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they NEED. Considering children spend as much time as they do in school, in the United States, atleast. The kids are in school 9 months out of 12 and for what 8 hours of the day lol.... Yeah American Kids spend more time in school as youths than they spend anywhere else, every single one of us.... You'd think hmmm we need to MAKE SURE THAT ALL schools are getting funded the CORRECT amount of money. ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR SH¡T/SERVICES NEEDED. Look how many teachers pay out of pocket for their students and classrooms because if they don't, they won't get whatever it is they need. That's pathetic. Let's give all these Big Corporations TONS of money every year, EVEN THOUGH THEY ALL ALREADY MAKE MILLIONS/BILLIONS/TRILLIONS... Yeah it's all politics and the WORLDS REVOLVES around money. The greed of some Humans is despicable. 🤢 NOT AT ALL SURPRISING THOUGH!!! These P¡GS THAT KILLED THAT LITTLE BOY, OH MANNNNN!!!! Oh FCK NO, if I were a family member of his, I HAVE NO DOUBT AT ALL that I would be indicted right next to those farm animals, but for assault with bodily injury and a deadly weapon probably, against them though. I would bring a baseball bat with me, best believe. Do that to my autistic Family Member 😂😂😂😂 AHAHAHAHAHA YEAH I WISH SOMEONE WOULD TRY.... MOTHERFCKERS. 🖕🏻 WHAT THE FCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE, LIKE ARE YOU FCKING SERIOUS. You don't DARE put your hands on ANY CHILD that is NOT YOURS, yeah FCKING RIGHT DUDE. These b¡tches better GO DOWN!!!! I HOPE THEY GET THE ABSOLUTE MOST HARSH PUNISHMENTS POSSIBLE!!! 🤷🏻♀️ If your going to work with children/adults with Developmental disorders/delays/diseases, RESEARCH WHAT YOUR JOB ENTAILS.... Clearly your going to know that some Autistic Kids have some crazy Strength! Uhmmm you know that they are probably going to need your help with quite a few things throughout the day, they may say and do things that you don't like but that's too bad, if it's not anything violent or along those lines then be happy. You KNOW there's the possibility of being hit or yelled at and spit at. FCK outta here man. DO NOT WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS IF YOU ARE NOT CUT OUT TO DO THE JOB!!!! THEY ARE PEOPLE, NOT TOYS, NOT ANIMALS, and not your little Project...... They should have NEVER done that (put ANY KIND OF RESTRAINTS ON CHILDREN, FOH) to ANY STUDENT. EVER. Clearly Californias B.O.E thought the same and that's why they shut that sh¡t down!!!!! RIGHTFULLY SO!!!! UGHHH, MY GOD THIS MAKES MY BLOOD B O I L!!! Reason for my paragraphs of ranting 🤦🏻♀️ I genuinely apologize!!! 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
I wish that I could get Federal Immunity from Prosecution and have these evil people released into My Custody. There would be vital organs donated to people on Life Support and the rest of their carcass would be put through a Metal Shredder.
@Elle It would be an Absolute Deterrent for people who are contemplating doing horrible crimes like this. It would be like when they did Public Hangings of Convicted Criminals
This hits to close to home. My son was beat at the local school and it was mostly covered up. I never fully found out what they did with him. The only solution I was able to get was him being fast tracked into his special needs school. Social services wouldn't help, cops wouldn't help, the school refused to talk to me and then tried to threaten me. Then again this year (the same school that has to bus him to his school he attends now) allowed a aide to shove him right off his feet and into a seat. I called all the same people, had meetings. And you think anything changed? No. No one helps when it comes to our special needs kids, let's be honest not enough people care to.
All children deserve kindness, love, respect, and opportunities. I am a teacher of special needs children and my heart breaks for the feelings that disabled people express, that no one see them or cares. I see you. I care!
@@AnaGNews Thank you, it's tough. I just wish people could see how amazing he is like I do. Also, I just want to say I'm such a huge fan. I've been watching you forever and I've always have had such respect for how you work. You're so incredibly intelligent with such a huge heart! You are the best!
@@schampie99 Thank you so much for being a special needs teacher! I don't think people truly understand how much great teachers mean to us who have kids with extra needs. You guys can be real life savers to us and our babies. I applaud you!
This episode breaks my heart, my biggest fear is my son being treated like this at school. I will probably homeschool him because I don’t think I could trust the school teacher anymore. But I do like the dramatic duo together again!!
I am on SSI since 15yrs old (trying to get off of it) and every 3 years Social Security does an update and usually wants to hear from me, but if they were her payee they could have maybe done the paperwork and calls for her. Fly high Maggie 🦋
Yes, I’ve worked with people with payees, and they are allowed to do all the communication. I think they should be requesting to talk to the person receiving benefits, or receive some kind of recent verification of life and residence.
@@sciencenotstigma9534 Yes! Just a quick phone call or meeting to make sure the actual person receiving the benefits is doing ok. This seems to happen way more often than it should. Thank you for working with payees and helping out.
First of all my mom abused and used me when I was in her care my money was taken and I was hit highly drugged and locked up in the apartment yes special needs people are treated with lower class I was bullied by my normal mother and sisters i was the cash cow and neglected while they lived the good life its sad because no one wanted to get involved i was rescued in 2010 and now I'm free but yes sad world we live in and you reap what you sow i hope Maggie haunts their asses forever 💔
Glad you got away from that, I worked for 27 years for my family, I had a work accident. Within 2 years my husband of 30 years had taken my car because his broke down, used my ret.fund because he couldn’t make it with his check + 75% of my income in disability pay. Took over my bank account because,he went to the bank , we were a one car family & he was in it until 10-11 every night. He thought I would be permanently disabled. I found how he had done all types of fraud on me . Put me into debt ruined me financially for life by mortgaging 2 homes I had inherited.
My cousin works in these class rooms. Teachers & aides in California, are not allowed to touch these kids, AT ALL. There are special trained security helpers, specifically for that. The teachers & aides are trained to only put their arms along side the student, and not touch or restrain them, but they can block them from hitting themselves or others, until the TRAINED staff specifically for very temporary restraint, if needed, and to get further help, if needed ie parent, doctor, cops. This is severe abuse. I'm shocked they're so understanding in this discussion, wow, there's literally zero excuse for this. 20yrs ago, sure, but any time in the past 15yrs, no way! They're TRAINED EXTENSIVELY, to NOT do anything like that.
Thank you for bringing awareness to these cases so tragic, love having Josh on the show, you do seem to cut him off allot when he’s trying to talk but I’m sure it’s just because you are so passionate about the case
I prefer this podcast to Nancy Grace bc i truly love listening to Anna and her guests. I love that Anna allows her guests to speak fully. I think this podcast flows well because of the respect Anna shows for not only the guests but the topics. It's crazy to me that Anna can be so good at being appropriately happy while conducting serious business.
I have a 9 yr old daughter with special needs. If she was missing for ONE hour I would expect LE to begin a search immediately. This could have been prevented. Such a shame. Also- HOW did the school not report that the child hadn’t been in school for that long? If my kid misses a day I always call in but if no call they would be calling and asking where is your kid right? Make it make sense.
I have a daughter with a gene mutation that makes her completely unable to do anything on her own we don’t get any form of ssi or even child support. Through family the grace of god we barley make it. She is the most important person in my life my literal everything everyday I make sure she gets to live her best life man I just started this episode and I’m already crying these kids are a gift
I agree. I would rather have my loved ones than any amount of money, even though I’m also in need. I wonder if drugs were involved. I can’t imagine what else could make people behave this way.
I don't understand how people scam SSI so easy. I am applying for stage 4 brain melanoma cancer and it takes over 250 days to be approved!! I'm 60 too, earned every dime of my SSI. You need a scammer to help you through the process.. :) Look forward to your show every Friday Ana. Thanks for all you do. xoxoxoxo :)
You know how many people collect SSI and are perfectly capable of working? I know quite a few. Then you have people like yourself who really need the help, and have to jump through hoops. Just remember, when you finally start getting payments, you should get a check for a retroactive amount from when you first applied. The whole system has been corrupt for years and needs a complete overhaul.
Prayers for you. I’m on ssdi-after being denied 2/3x I was finally approved after 21/2 years w/the help of my hired attorney. It’s such a draining/ frustrating process! It infuriated me while spending hours in their office hearing the Scammers Brag to ea other their “how to” methods for getting assistance for Everything! While we disabled ppl suffer! As well as incur the unnecessary added stresses through the approval & appeal process. I’d also like to note, to your point of you paying into our SS system~ WHY the bell are the Illegals / Invaders of our country being Given SS $ and free homes w/Paid expenses ie: food, electric etc While we AMERICANS are not!? These illegals receive OUR BENEFITS WE PAID INTO- NOT THEM! They’re monthly payments are MORE than what Americans & our VETS receive!! They invaders are being rewarded with OUR $ for being FELONS! It’s DISGUSTING to me! Extremely WRONG! We as Americans must be First. And I 💯 believe the scammers must be held accountable
My daughter was born without all of her skull and 70% of her brain has abnormalities and she still hasn't got ssi she is 13 yet I know people with kids that have "anger" issues that got approved immediately it's bs. My case worker asked me if my child had any other race in her besides being white so she could be approved easier which is bullcrap! Your race and sex shouldn't even be a box marked it should be based on their diagnosis and condition
@@angieblove 7 years, here, and then I only received it for 3 years because none of my new doctors would bother with the forms. I had a strong case, to begin with.
Special Needs children deserve special love and attention and to be safe. Those who are responsible for hurting these kids deserve severe punishment. Sad cases indeed and im so sad when the vulnerable are mistreated in any way. Stay strong Ana and relax this weekend if u can ♡♡♡
The disabled sister moved in with her brother in January of 2018 and she was murdered months later?!? WTFFFFF!! He had no intention of helping her, she didn’t even last a few months there!!! How sad!!
These cases are so disturbing and heartbreaking! On the case of Max... In the state of North Carolina we are trained in nonviolent crisis intervention (NCI) and required to recertify every year. Not only the way they took Max down but the length of time they restrained him is unacceptable!!! This training is mandatory for anyone working with children and adults with special needs. I also wonder why the SRO, law enforcement and EMS were not called to intervene. I believe this could have been avoided had the teachers followed protocol.
Omgosh! I am watching this year old episode..and its so awesome to look in the past and see you kept your word! A.Garcia had a subscriber on AND she responded to my recent comment! I bragged to everyone!
We were all trained and certified by the state. I didn't have a choice where my kids went, Connecticut took them from me saying with my disabilities and my sons as well, I couldn't properly care for them! A dark closet for sensory overloaded children is a nightmare! That's abuse in and of itself! I HATE people who abuse disabled children! They need to get rid of " involuntary" manslaughter! The prosecutor needs to find out the law in that state on restraints, duration, position, ect. I'll bet they could up the charges! Please, please keep following this case so we can find out what happens!!
In Maggie’s case, was her check an actual paper check? In the state I live in most disability checks are direct deposited into an account and most of the stimulus checks were also direct deposited. My point is that if her brother had the debit card for Maggie’s account and knew her PIN number then they would have access to her check that easily. So incredibly sad and disturbing that they could do this to his own disabled sister! I’ll never understand ppl!! I have not had a chance to listen to the 2nd case yet. Thanks for the video.
Every week I say it can’t get any worse and then it does thank you ana for doing both cases justice and you always have the best guests amazing reporting thank you
Parents please please please look into something called ABA therapy! It's a therapy DOES NOT use restraints when behaviors occur! I'm an ABA Behavioral Technician and what we do is when tantrum or any other negative behaviors happen, we teach them a positive replacement behavior. ABA is about patience and actually working with the kids. Not restraining them
Being disabled, in a wheelchair and female, I can assure you, nobody even sees us. Also, if she had cognitive difficulty, she would have had a payee - this is someone authorized to handle the recipient's bank account, income and finances. With a payee, the SSI/SSDI recipient could go missing for years and no one would know.
In my nearly 14 year career working with individuals with special needs I have never used a restraint or seen anyone use one for spitting. In none of my restraint use training was spitting ever mentioned as a reason why a restraint would be used. Restraints are traumatic to the individual being restrained and have been somewhat phased out over the years except in extreme circumstances. They are not meant to be used as a method of control but to protect the individual from harming themselves or others. There is typically a written plan regarding the use of restraints which outline the methods that can be used and for how long. Also only the people who are trained in the proper use of restraints are allowed to perform them, at least in my professional experience. I've worked with some very violent individuals where restraint use was definitely a part of their case plan but there were very specific guidelines. I have never restrained a child though.
My roommate is a SPED teacher and is trained in restraint training and you don’t restrain for more than 5 min. In that time frame you are contacting the parents/guardians. My stepson actually worked at that school in a support staff position and he was so upset and pissed when this happened. We can’t believe it took this long to file the charges
I'm sorry, I work with people with special needs, mainly, with preschool children. For the past 26, years. We NEVER restraint any child or adult. That is abuse plain and simple. There are Professional Development Courses (8 hrs) we take on how to defuse a situation. You restraint another human being, be prepared to loose your job, and face criminal charges.
Omg my son too has autism and my son is such a calm boy he's 14 and they restrained him numerous times cause he had to use the bathroom he couldn't hold it so he ran to bathroom he didn't want to pee on hiself in front of class and then cause he couldn't wait to pee n left they made us go to mobile cruise my son suffered from anxiety he was so scared this isn't fair makes me sad teacher and staff are allowed to do these things an not call parent I was told I'm the last resort I'm always first absolutely disgusting heartbreaking
The two that killed the girl said they feel the victim is haunting them?? I hope they feel like that for the rest of their lives, paranoid and haunted.
I really do appreciate your passion for these cases and for Your classy delivery of some really difficult content! Definitely tops on my true crime podcasts!!
As an employee in our school district, we have numerous training in safety, no matter what positions we hold, three times, if not more, per year. My heart hurts for these two precious loves, who deserved better, and for their families and loved ones, we send our love and prayers for your terrible loss🙏🙏🙏
These days benefits are paid by direct deposit so no one would actually be cashing any checks since paper checks are no longer sent. It is more convenient but it definitely makes it easier for so called caregivers to take the money
Ana these are terrible cases & you ask every question we are all thinking,you are so compassionate, and there is just something about you that makes you different from other reporters...you have great guests like this episode so this is the best podcast I've seen regarding crime....keep it up and please know I truly wish I knew you!!
Oh mann. That second case.. i have 2 special needs kids. 1 more severe than the other. When he was younger there were times hed have to be restrained, but you only do that breifly!! The minute the child starts to calm/become more aware, you change to different calming techniques! I can very easily put myself in the parent position. I understand at least some of what they were dealing with, so this hits even closer to home than other cases. I know we are lucky my kids schools have been great and that as hes gotten older he has gotten better. My heart breaks for this family. Everywhere we have lived( we moved allot cuz we were military) the special ed teachers were trained in safe restraint techniques, sometimes by psychiatrists sometimes by special instructors, and had to pass testing on the techniques. Allot if the schools had time limits for restraints.. and if by that time limit the child was not calmed down.. they would call 911 and parents.
Yes, I studied Special Ed, and taught in schools, and there is always a protocol for severe behavioral issues. One reason I am not still in the field is the lack of supportive staff and resources, in many schools.
It was a special school so those teachers adults should have been trained properly to look after situations like this… the big fail came from those adults for not calling for help if they couldn’t restrain him humanly… grrrr
I was a Special needs teacher. To restrain a child for 1 hour & 45 minutes is 1. Mind blowing & 2. It tells me this staff had stopped looking at these children as human. The other children had to have been traumatized too. Who restrains anyone for this amount of time? I t’s good that the school has been closed down. It obviously had grown into a dark, evil culture.
I worked a job last year where the principal referred to this case of the 13-year-old as the reasoning for his rule. Even if he had people on staff who were trained in restraint and knew how to do proper CPI restraints, we were not allowed to according to the school. We were also not allowed to call 911 if a situation escalated to the point we were considering CPI restraint on an individual. We were also not allowed to contact administration if the situation escalated past the point of proper CPI restraint protocol. I point-blank asked the principal what he expected us to do if a situation had escalated to that point if we were not allowed to CPI restrain, call 911, OR contact administration for backup. I wish I were kidding, but I was let go from the program that day for "unprofessional behavior." My "unprofessional behavior" came down to me just asking the question in a very blank tone of voice WITH witnesses who could verify I did nothing wrong. Yes, I made all the necessary reports, and yes there is an ongoing investigation. Unfortunately, I don't think anything will come of it, nothing ever does. It's going to come down to the point where a student has to kill another student before something gets done about the administration covering their butts to the point of putting both staff and students in extreme danger. A child was hospitalized at the end of last school year (about three months after I was let go for my "unprofessional behavior") because the staff are literally not allowed to do anything, and a STUDENT had to call 911 to get help because the school staff were just standing around. For anyone who thinks this kind of thing doesn't happen and is just made up: I really wish it were.
Restraining a child of that size in a strong and violent way = assault. So, this school, with its specialized services for children with special needs should ABSOLUTELY have a room where a child can have a time-out, so the only restraint would have been to get him there, not wrestle him physically until he died. School closed, lawsuits until everyone involved runs dry!!!!
The brother probably kept collecting benefits because the money was probably direct deposited. If Social Security is not notified they keep sending the benefits.
True. But they’re also supposed to have an appt with you every 12-18 months to go over any new changes. The only time that appt has been waived was during Covid but they still needed updated info (care taker, dr, bank account info, etc.)
It’s horrific, Social Security is direct deposit into an bank account or Electronic Benefits Transaction Account, (EBT) SS would have at payee in place for the young girl. Which requires an annual update of how her funds were being spent. (Rent, food, clothes) this will help with the fraud. Hope these people rot in hell. A child died at that school, someone or many others are responsible. Justice needs to be served.
Yes special education teachers are required to be trained in intervention techniques yearly. And restraining should only be used as a last result when the safety of others or the child is in danger and as soon as the behavior stops the restraining stops. It is not to be used as punishment!
I have an autistic son who will be 23 next month, he is non verbal and can be a handful when he wants to but he is always smiling, always happy. I can't even imagine someone doing this to him, this is horrible. There is a special place in heaven for kids like this and a very special place in hell for abusers and killers of such children, I assure you,
To kill your disabled sister for money is despicable. I hope she continues to haunt them every time they try and close their eyes in their prison cells. 👻 I’m glad the DA overruled the Sheriff and went after those responsible for Max’s death. He may have been a big boy on the outside but as you said Ana he was only 13yrs and had wet himself and vomited in fear and terror. What that last hour and half must’ve been like for him is unimaginable for one so young with special needs. I know you’ll keep us updated on the case. Good on you too for the other you helped with where they were locking the little boy in a dark cupboard! I have seen some of your videos as a crime reporter and interviewer. You were and still are awesome 🤩
Anna, in reference to “doesn’t one agency talked to another?” & I can tell you that after having been in LE, NO, NO THEY DO NOT USE COMMON SENSE OR TALK TO EACH OTHER. Its sad but true..with all the technology & programs, you’d think that someones name would get flagged who’s a missing & endangered adult..but no
I’m 90% sure I went to school with Maggie and was friends with her in Elementary school. She used to get bullied because she was different but she was always nice. I remember this girl. If this is really her this is so sad. I lost contact with everyone in my hometown when I moved to a new city. I can’t believe that this is what her life lead to.
Why did they take the body with them when they moved? It’s obvious…they didn’t want her to be found so they can keep receiving her checks. How disgusting 🤮
Folks are wicked
Poor little one :( my daughter had a heart transplant almost 9yrs ago and I would die so she could be healthy and have a normal life with a normal prognosis. These people make me sick. They did not deserve her.
Sick,sometimes your own family is your own worse enemy😢
I love it when you have Josh on the show. You two work well together.
Us too!!
Being a parent of special needs child, this hurts my heart in ways I can't express.
I understand. Whatever you do to me….
My heart hurts for that little boy. I live in Sacramento and I know from experience working with children with special needs to not use force to put someone down especially a child. This case is so sad because I cannot even imagine what that boy went through. These were adults working with these children, they should have known better. Empathy goes a long way and these people didn't have it. It's just so messed up. RIP kiddo
If they can't use force, what are they supposed to do? Autistic kids (and adults) can be very violent. They can go into rages that are extremely difficult to stop. That child could cause harm to staff and other children while they are not using force to stop them. People love to say what everyone shouldn't do, but they don't ever explain what they *should* do.
as the mom of an autistic son, this enrages me. those people are evil and deserve the maximum sentence the law will allow
I agree. Evil and senseless 🙏🏼
I'm autistic and I used to work at a school for neurodivergent children as special education teacher. I left after 5 days. The way they treated those children. You can call as a mandated reporter but nothing was done. School is still open.
Precisely! I have a first cousin who has severe autism and I've been very close to him since he was born, he's an adult now and he's so special, loving and kind and all he wants is to be loved and hugged and to be with family, ALL THE TIME. That's all he cares about and I can't even imagine someone doing this to him when he was a child having these same type of episodes/outburts, however you choose to label them. He had NO CONTROL over it. They don't know or understand why they do things like spitting, screaming, hitting themselves, etc, if they did they wouldn't do it. This just enrages me to no end!!!
@@cjdodgeprimecrime its despicable truly. Makes me sick. I babysit a low functioning boy who is 17 he has seizures and mobility issues bless his heart. He is the sweetest thing someone told my friend who i share babysitting duties with that "hes violent" and" she doesn't want to take the job".. and my friend loves him as do i. He is not even a little violent. He is affectionate sometimes and doesn't realize his strength but he is not violent. People disgust me.
@@adrialee8149 I just don't understand people like that! Maybe he just doesn't like her and senses that she is not nice!! That's what it sounds more like to me!
The fact that people choose money over someone else's life is pure evil.
Welcome to Earth. Where you been?
Our government is as guilty as sin in promoting these behaviors through modeled apathy and active predation.
Happens every other second
Of course. Humans are THEE ABSOLUTE most disgusting, greedy species of anything ever created. It's truly sickening but Nothing New... 🤷🏻♀️
And what are we talking? Probably less than 1k a month.
I went to school with a girl who was wheelchair bound and also had extreme autism as well. She would go into fits where she would scream in the middle of lunch or start trying to bite herself or other people so the teacher whenever she would do this she would hold her hands while walking her out out and then take her somewhere to help her calm down she was in school with me all 4 years of high school and not once did they ever have to restrain her for an hour and 45 minutes. Even if she bit them.
There is absolutely no excuse for what these people did to that little boy whatsoever. They handled it the wrong way if they're not willing to accept that the they are in no position to ever work a job around special needs children. They knew what they were doing was wrong because there is no way that this boy wasn't getting more upset the longer he was being restrained like that because he couldn't understand what was going on.
I'm just speechless on both cases. Thankful for for the professional way you presented them. My heart goes out to the families.
I have been in the mental health field for a while, I used to work in a facility with physically aggressive individuals. We have been chased with forks, the building lit on fire, staff has been beat up multiple times, a coworker even lost her fetus from an attack. Our local police station told us we could no longer call them for assistance since it was supposed to be our job to control them. Many times, we had individuals running down a highway, but the only way an officer would come out to help is when someone else in the community called them to report someone running down the highway. It's sad, but we need more resources for people with special needs, more care centers, more staff, more support.
I give you credit, Its a very difficult job you have. God Bless 💜💜💜
I also worked in a psychiatric hospital and had similar issues.
That's crazy, and that poor lady who lost her baby. I mean, I presume she was a lady.
I worked in a center like that two years ago. We had a child who had been in a psychotic break for three solid days and the school wouldn't have her admitted. I got hit in the back of the head after I walked into the room by this child (didn't even know the kid was coming down the hallway and I had my back turned - I was in no way a threat) where I received a traumatic brain injury. The school told me it was my fault because I should have known to get out of the way and the police department wouldn't press criminal charges because it's the school's job to keep the kids in line. The center closed last year due to the MULTIPLE lawsuits from prior staff (I am not on that list, oddly enough, I chose the workman's comp route and refused to sign an NDA).
@@M.Vautier What does this even mean?
They did that girl horribly... RIP Sweetheart... You are with God now...
So heartbreaking and sickening. Seems like she just wanted to be loved by family and yet they only looked at her as an inconvenience but also as their source of income. 😔
All they cared about was her 💵, didn't care about her at all. So sad 😥😢
I hope Maggie IS haunting them sh*t bags!
I have a child with autism who has very violent outbursts, she is only 8 years old, but has the strength of a teenager, she kicks, punches and scratches sometimes for unknown reasons, her teachers experience her violent episodes a couple of times a week, and they are troopers for what they do everyday! I can tell you with certainty, there is a lack of training for the staff having to deal with an increasing number of children with autism and other disabilities. My heart goes out to the parents who lost their child, but we need more conversations about this to help the school systems, and most importantly the children. Great podcast as usual, I love when Josh is on, and I love his sidebar show!
Hi Kathy. Just curious, has your dr suggested any medications to “take the edge off” so your child can focus at school better? How is sleeping? Diet? There’s a few things you can try to help with that but I completely agree with you. I have three autistic boys. And one “normal” son. Thank goodness he’s the oldest and has always been a tremendous help. I hope you are getting help from family/friends. Also if you’re uncomfortable answering, no worries. I was just thinking of things I have tried over the years. Good luck honey.
@@roser6963 Hi Rose, she has been prescribed medicine, but it has to forced down her throat and we won’t do that.. she’s a very picky eater, but luckily she likes fresh cut vegetables, fruit, boiled eggs, cheese,grilled chicken, plain rice and Oreos lol. This is mainly what she eats daily. She sleeps pretty normal, about 10 hours a night. She has 3 older “normal” siblings, they help a lot and her dad is a big help too. I’m open to suggestions, and wish you the best. It can get really stressful for parents too. Hang in there! ❤️
Staff is trained but some staff members are mean. I've seen it up close and personal.
@@brownin329 I don’t disagree, but I do think many of them aren’t fit for the job they are being asked to do. I have one child that I have to work with and it’s hard for me. I couldn’t imagine having multiple at one time.
Kathy, thank you for sharing your story with us. It’s an issue that doesn’t receive enough attention or support 🙏🏼
Thank you for covering the Oklahoma case in this podcast. I live in that same town and remember how it really shook up the college students since the body was found beneath the stairs of the house. We don't get publicized crimes of this nature nearly as often as OKC so for a while people were afraid of a killer on the same street they lived on. Absolutely chilling that she was actually a SIBLING of the perpetrator. Makes me sick to my stomach that there are monsters out there willing to kill their own flesh and blood solely for money. As if abusing a disabled person wasn't horrid enough, exploiting her posthumously? Absolutely disgusting. Who knows how many other people like Maggie are being subjected to fates like this? It's so sad.
Thank you for sharing these terrible cases against such vulnerable people. As a former special education teacher and autism behavioral specialist this is just so heartbreaking. I worked with children with severe autism and significant behavioral issues. Never would I have restrained anyone for an hour let alone almost 2 hours! So infuriating!
I can’t believe the sheriff didn’t think this was potentially criminal!
@@AnaGNews me either! I bet if it was their child they would think it was!
These aids need to be vetted better. Seems almost anyone can become an aid working with special needs children. Especially since all the help they can get is definitely needed. The aid turnover rate in our schools is outrageous, with so many having drug, alcohol, and criminal histories. The mother of my cousins was someone just like this who worked in the classroom with children. While she's had several cps reports and investigations on her record, ultimately having them taken away. She was never fired, has her credentials still, and could go back to work at any time. My sister is a teacher, and she has had to report several ed aids. At least 2 a year. When it came time for my autistic son, who was non verbal to go to school, I was already so nervous about the people left in charge of his care. Luckily, his first couple years of school he had wonderful teachers and aids, but his last 3 years were so horrific, it was almost traumatic, and it stresses me out thinking about what these people put my son and me thru. They were so bad, one incident my son came home with bruises perfectly shaped as hands on his thighs as if someone was forcing him down into his wheelchair. I had to report it to the police. Another incident was me hearing my sons sobbing cries from down the street as I waited for his bus. Turns out, they had his window down, in the middle of winter, with him being soaked with urine all the way up his back. They said they had the window down to calm him down. But it was obvious they did it to punish him as they knew he didn't like the wind blowing on him, especially when being soaked. He was shivering so bad, and i cried so much from seeing my son suffer in such a wat., It makes me sick. It was hell with all of the battles, and back and forth reporting, meetings, and fighting. When we finally got our son transferred, I couldn't handle even looking at a school or talking to anyone from a school. Luckily my husband took charge of anything school related from then on.
@@katalinacastanares4602 oh my goodness I’m so very sorry for you and your son. This breaks my heart. You are absolutely correct about how awful so many educational aids are. I dealt with it quite often. I always treated my students the way I would want my own son to be treated. I’m praying that things have Improved and that your son is treated with the best care! ❤️🙏
That poor boy! Those teachers were negligent I agree. Hope the parents get true justice for what had happened to their kid! Thanks Ana and Josh for the amazing podcast again!
Thanks for joining us 🙏🏼
I am a full time carer for my severely disabled adult son, and i can categorically say this is DEF a failure in the system, if someone is on state benefits then the state should be involved in their care, but from experience i know that these people who are paid to care, really dont! Of course we know their workload is massive but you dont go into a job like that and then checkout your responsibilities at the door!! Sadly this happens too often children and adults with disabilities and special needs come WAY down the pecking order. Breaks my heart i worry so much what will happen to my son when im not here to care for him.
Thank you for your insight 🙏🏼
I've been wanting to try to start a petition to get law enforcement and teachers training for special needs. I've heard of too many people with mental disorders being hurt or even killed and it's ridiculous
I know in Georgia and California, Special Ed teachers need a Master's in Education. I took a few basic classes in that field and learned how to deal with a large variety of special needs. This sounds like lack of accountability on the teacher's part. It sounds like the school fulfilling the basic requirements and running a business instead of an institution that really cares for and respects the children. I would have to say accountability on the cops' part too. Yes, they need more and special training, but if they used compassion snd the tools for protecting and serving, they would not be as quick to harm children who are ill in some way. Many cops don't treat their family like they treat the public, so they can't really claim they don't know how to work with these children without hurting or killing them. It's really not rocket science. Priorities of the children's safety needs to come before anything else. Punishment should not take center stage on these situations. These are easily teaching moments for child and teacher/cops. I'm not saying it's easy, but have enough common sense to say, I don't know what to do in this situation. Let me get or talk to someone who does.
I'm not a mother. I don't know how to deal with autistic children. I do know everyone has limitations and personal needs. Give people space and let them be who they need to be as the situation is worked through. I have not heard of any autistic person or even non-disabled person act better after they are restrained and controlled when they are already upset. Again, common sense.
Young people have died under police care as well. So sad. People need to know more about autism.
People with disabilities are particularly vulnerable to crimes like these, often by family. It's not a topic discussed enough in this country.
Thank you! People need to be properly informed in this area. It’s very sad that special needs individuals suffer at the hands of those that are supposed to be caring for them and supporting their needs.
@@Jahtutson they are supposed to but all too often that doesn't happen and it CERTAINLY doesn't happen in residential settings for children with special needs
The Max Benson story broke my heart - there’s no question that teaching staff (especially with special needs) are overworked, undertrained and probably overwhelmed, but in almost two hours, not one of them thought “this isn’t right”? Would they treat their own children that way? I just don’t see any excuse for it carrying on for such a prolonged period of time.
Well said Lauren!!!
This isn't true at all in California. They have extra people, and short hours at school, and extra aides, and extra staff for security. You're thinking of a regular school.
period!!!
Exactly
He did not die in vain. They have made changes in restraining kiddos. My son was in a behavior program. They locked in him a closet
Type room for time out. He came
Home and told me they fed him lunch in the time out room and he urinated in that room, they wouldn't let him go. The was the last time my winner t in that room. I was livid. The following year the laws had changed and it was no longer allowed. My son got so many injuries being forced into time oit proper to everything happening.
Maggie’s body was found in a house, not an apartment building. The house picture came up.
Thanks for covering this. It shocked and saddened everyone in town. Poor Maggie.
These women knew exactly what they were walking into or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, when they made the choice to work with special needs children and I hope and pray that they are prosecuted to the FULLEST extent the law provides! Anyone with a brain in their head knows that what those women did to this child is WRONG! PERIOD! Thank God the DA overruled the sheriff's stupid opinion! Unbelievable!!!
Yes!!! Thank God the DA did the right thing.
@@AnaGNews Absolutely!!
End the systemic genocide taking shape against the disabled community here in North America.
This is horrible that young girl seems like nobody wanted her and just wanted the money not the responsibility..Rip angel 😇❤️✝️
It sure looks that way.
Just so sad.
I am going to comment every time I see Josh Ritter or Luis Belanos on the show to let you know how much I love them! Best guests! I love them, and you Ana! Thanks for the podcast!
Thank you 🙏🏼 we love Josh and Luis too
There r good criminal attys out there! Josh made me think of shows like Matlock & Perry Mason. We just see the Ted Cruzs on the News. I forgot about the 1s in white hats.
Ana Garcia, Rockstar! Josh Ritter and Luis Belanos are amazingly good guests love watching them. This is a really awesome channel!
Ana, as someone who has worked with children and been a very vocal child advocate I can tell you those who stand up for children can been eaten alive by civil threats, vested interests and just plain bad people. Soccer moms can be ruthless.
I reported children being handled very roughly (these are 2-year olds btw) with seven pages of documentation. Instead of looking into my report or even doing something perfunctory as asking me a single question, the school board hired an attorney who promptly sent a letter stating that I would face “all available legal recourse” if I did not keep quiet about what I witnessed. In other words, punitive lawfare. I was also promptly fired. The people who helped cover the situation up were promoted.
What was more frustrating was I found out just after I submitted my report that I was the THIRD employee (out of a staff of less than 20) to have been fired for similar reasons within the past 18 months, and parents knew about both other cases. Instead of demanding the school look into my report - the victims are their children after all - they completely threw me under the bus. None said they doubted what I said was true (multiple parents later asked if it was their child that had been involved) but rather that the social implications of appearing to siding with me was undesirable. Their kids and those of the board members attended the same social gatherings, were on the same sports teams, et cetera and that would be awkward for them. These are the supposed pillars of the community.
The end result was I was a pariah because I had the audacity to put children’s welfare above my job and social ascension.
❤keep doing what’s right
Ana and Josh together again. You’re spoiling us!!!
Thanks for watching! The dynamic duo is back!
@@mytruecrimenews there is no sound 😭
I would love to provide some commentary on the Podcast!!! It would be a dream come true. 🥰 Good to see Josh on the show, I have been watching his as well. Thank you Ana and Josh
Hahahaha Pamela - now we have to convince our bosses about our plan 😀
These are both such heartbreaking cases. I hope that those involved are punished to the fullest extent of the law and this sweet young woman and that precious teenage boy are at peace now. 💗
Hi Sarah - as always you put things on such beautiful perspective 🙏🏼 have a safe weekend
Hola Ana and thank you for covering these stories. Love your show
I wish there wasn't crime at all but since there is...I'm glad Ana is there to report! You're the best Ana!
School Districts need to provide a fully trained in house Crisis Team as well as provide Teachers a Panic button in the classroom setting just like in the Mental Health Sector.
They do indeed, they won't though, as usual everything revolves around money... If they don't have the money to pay the people they aren't going to go work there. It's so EXTREMELY sad, especially because the schools that USUALLY need the most attention/help with crisis counseling or just counseling of any type, in general, are the schools in the lower money bracket areas or complete poverty areas and those schools get even LESS MONEY than the rest of the schools. It's terrible. Schools should have enough funding for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they NEED. Considering children spend as much time as they do in school, in the United States, atleast. The kids are in school 9 months out of 12 and for what 8 hours of the day lol.... Yeah American Kids spend more time in school as youths than they spend anywhere else, every single one of us.... You'd think hmmm we need to MAKE SURE THAT ALL schools are getting funded the CORRECT amount of money. ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY PAY FOR SH¡T/SERVICES NEEDED. Look how many teachers pay out of pocket for their students and classrooms because if they don't, they won't get whatever it is they need. That's pathetic. Let's give all these Big Corporations TONS of money every year, EVEN THOUGH THEY ALL ALREADY MAKE MILLIONS/BILLIONS/TRILLIONS... Yeah it's all politics and the WORLDS REVOLVES around money. The greed of some Humans is despicable. 🤢 NOT AT ALL SURPRISING THOUGH!!!
These P¡GS THAT KILLED THAT LITTLE BOY, OH MANNNNN!!!! Oh FCK NO, if I were a family member of his, I HAVE NO DOUBT AT ALL that I would be indicted right next to those farm animals, but for assault with bodily injury and a deadly weapon probably, against them though. I would bring a baseball bat with me, best believe. Do that to my autistic Family Member 😂😂😂😂 AHAHAHAHAHA YEAH I WISH SOMEONE WOULD TRY.... MOTHERFCKERS. 🖕🏻 WHAT THE FCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE, LIKE ARE YOU FCKING SERIOUS. You don't DARE put your hands on ANY CHILD that is NOT YOURS, yeah FCKING RIGHT DUDE. These b¡tches better GO DOWN!!!! I HOPE THEY GET THE ABSOLUTE MOST HARSH PUNISHMENTS POSSIBLE!!! 🤷🏻♀️
If your going to work with children/adults with Developmental disorders/delays/diseases, RESEARCH WHAT YOUR JOB ENTAILS.... Clearly your going to know that some Autistic Kids have some crazy Strength! Uhmmm you know that they are probably going to need your help with quite a few things throughout the day, they may say and do things that you don't like but that's too bad, if it's not anything violent or along those lines then be happy. You KNOW there's the possibility of being hit or yelled at and spit at. FCK outta here man. DO NOT WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS IF YOU ARE NOT CUT OUT TO DO THE JOB!!!! THEY ARE PEOPLE, NOT TOYS, NOT ANIMALS, and not your little Project...... They should have NEVER done that (put ANY KIND OF RESTRAINTS ON CHILDREN, FOH) to ANY STUDENT. EVER. Clearly Californias B.O.E thought the same and that's why they shut that sh¡t down!!!!! RIGHTFULLY SO!!!!
UGHHH, MY GOD THIS MAKES MY BLOOD B O I L!!! Reason for my paragraphs of ranting 🤦🏻♀️ I genuinely apologize!!! 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
It's called de-escalation techniques
I wish that I could get Federal Immunity from Prosecution and have these evil people released into My Custody. There would be vital organs donated to people on Life Support and the rest of their carcass would be put through a Metal Shredder.
ok barbara
Agree 100%
So you think your evilness is better then the crimes?
@Elle It would be an Absolute Deterrent for people who are contemplating doing horrible crimes like this. It would be like when they did Public Hangings of Convicted Criminals
@@yashimamom true.
This hits to close to home. My son was beat at the local school and it was mostly covered up. I never fully found out what they did with him. The only solution I was able to get was him being fast tracked into his special needs school.
Social services wouldn't help, cops wouldn't help, the school refused to talk to me and then tried to threaten me.
Then again this year (the same school that has to bus him to his school he attends now) allowed a aide to shove him right off his feet and into a seat.
I called all the same people, had meetings. And you think anything changed? No.
No one helps when it comes to our special needs kids, let's be honest not enough people care to.
I believe you. And it’s not right 🙏🏼 I am so sorry.
All children deserve kindness, love, respect, and opportunities. I am a teacher of special needs children and my heart breaks for the feelings that disabled people express, that no one see them or cares. I see you. I care!
@@AnaGNews Thank you, it's tough. I just wish people could see how amazing he is like I do.
Also, I just want to say I'm such a huge fan. I've been watching you forever and I've always have had such respect for how you work.
You're so incredibly intelligent with such a huge heart! You are the best!
@@schampie99 Thank you so much for being a special needs teacher!
I don't think people truly understand how much great teachers mean to us who have kids with extra needs. You guys can be real life savers to us and our babies. I applaud you!
@@mommytozombies2019 Parents are the true heroes!
This episode breaks my heart, my biggest fear is my son being treated like this at school. I will probably homeschool him because I don’t think I could trust the school teacher anymore. But I do like the dramatic duo together again!!
I homeschooled my son for similar reasons. It’s sad how you can’t trust anybody!
He’s lucky to have such a strong, loving parent! ❤
Thank you Ana for all your hard work💖🌹. Happy weekend🌞.
Most social security payments are no longer in check form. Direct deposit.
So? Most ppl on ss have a person in charge of depositing the checks.
@@Ellie80681 There are no checks for most recipients. Direct deposit into recipient's account by SS Admin.
Love your podcast. I am a true crime daily fan.
Ugh. 1 hour and 45 minutes is far from "involuntary". That's just torture.
It’s horrible
I am on SSI since 15yrs old (trying to get off of it) and every 3 years Social Security does an update and usually wants to hear from me, but if they were her payee they could have maybe done the paperwork and calls for her. Fly high Maggie 🦋
Yes, I’ve worked with people with payees, and they are allowed to do all the communication. I think they should be requesting to talk to the person receiving benefits, or receive some kind of recent verification of life and residence.
@@sciencenotstigma9534 Yes! Just a quick phone call or meeting to make sure the actual person receiving the benefits is doing ok. This seems to happen way more often than it should. Thank you for working with payees and helping out.
First of all my mom abused and used me when I was in her care my money was taken and I was hit highly drugged and locked up in the apartment yes special needs people are treated with lower class I was bullied by my normal mother and sisters i was the cash cow and neglected while they lived the good life its sad because no one wanted to get involved i was rescued in 2010 and now I'm free but yes sad world we live in and you reap what you sow i hope Maggie haunts their asses forever 💔
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Praying that you are doing better now. ❤️
I’m so sorry your family didn’t take care of you the way they should have. Thankfully you’re away from them now. I hope you’re doing good.
Glad you got away from that, I worked for 27 years for my family, I had a work accident. Within 2 years my husband of 30 years had taken my car because his broke down, used my ret.fund because he couldn’t make it with his check + 75% of my income in disability pay. Took over my bank account because,he went to the bank , we were a one car family & he was in it until 10-11 every night. He thought I would be permanently disabled. I found how he had done all types of fraud on me . Put me into debt ruined me financially for life by mortgaging 2 homes I had inherited.
@@roser6963 thanks im ok now
@@blazefairchild465 sorry that happened to you no one deserves that
My cousin works in these class rooms. Teachers & aides in California, are not allowed to touch these kids, AT ALL. There are special trained security helpers, specifically for that. The teachers & aides are trained to only put their arms along side the student, and not touch or restrain them, but they can block them from hitting themselves or others, until the TRAINED staff specifically for very temporary restraint, if needed, and to get further help, if needed ie parent, doctor, cops. This is severe abuse. I'm shocked they're so understanding in this discussion, wow, there's literally zero excuse for this. 20yrs ago, sure, but any time in the past 15yrs, no way! They're TRAINED EXTENSIVELY, to NOT do anything like that.
Yay! Hello Ana and Josh. I love yall together!!! Josh hows your baby doing?
Thx Ana! Happy FriYay!
Thank you for bringing awareness to these cases so tragic, love having Josh on the show, you do seem to cut him off allot when he’s trying to talk but I’m sure it’s just because you are so passionate about the case
I prefer this podcast to Nancy Grace bc i truly love listening to Anna and her guests. I love that Anna allows her guests to speak fully. I think this podcast flows well because of the respect Anna shows for not only the guests but the topics. It's crazy to me that Anna can be so good at being appropriately happy while conducting serious business.
I have a 9 yr old daughter with special needs. If she was missing for ONE hour I would expect LE to begin a search immediately. This could have been prevented. Such a shame.
Also- HOW did the school not report that the child hadn’t been in school for that long? If my kid misses a day I always call in but if no call they would be calling and asking where is your kid right? Make it make sense.
It maybe that the brother & his wife never enrolled her in a new school when they took custody.
Angie - you make perfect sense. Why didn’t anyone take your logical approach??
Ana, you have excellent guests. I love how everyone is well informed and prepared about the stories.
I have a daughter with a gene mutation that makes her completely unable to do anything on her own we don’t get any form of ssi or even child support. Through family the grace of god we barley make it. She is the most important person in my life my literal everything everyday I make sure she gets to live her best life man I just started this episode and I’m already crying these kids are a gift
I agree. I would rather have my loved ones than any amount of money, even though I’m also in need. I wonder if drugs were involved. I can’t imagine what else could make people behave this way.
I pray that you will get help. I don't understand the government and what designates who gets help. We are living in the end times. Very scary.
@@areitikeyks I am sorry you went through that and I am sure much more.
I don't understand how people scam SSI so easy. I am applying for stage 4 brain melanoma cancer and it takes over 250 days to be approved!! I'm 60 too, earned every dime of my SSI. You need a scammer to help you through the process.. :) Look forward to your show every Friday Ana. Thanks for all you do. xoxoxoxo :)
I hear you. And I’m sorry. It took mine 5.5 years to be approved. I hope you get better Sharon ❤️
You know how many people collect SSI and are perfectly capable of working? I know quite a few. Then you have people like yourself who really need the help, and have to jump through hoops. Just remember, when you finally start getting payments, you should get a check for a retroactive amount from when you first applied. The whole system has been corrupt for years and needs a complete overhaul.
Prayers for you. I’m on ssdi-after being denied 2/3x I was finally approved after 21/2 years w/the help of my hired attorney. It’s such a draining/ frustrating process! It infuriated me while spending hours in their office hearing the Scammers Brag to ea other their “how to” methods for getting assistance for Everything! While we disabled ppl suffer! As well as incur the unnecessary added stresses through the approval & appeal process. I’d also like to note, to your point of you paying into our SS system~ WHY the bell are the Illegals / Invaders of our country being Given SS $ and free homes w/Paid expenses ie: food, electric etc While we AMERICANS are not!? These illegals receive OUR BENEFITS WE PAID INTO- NOT THEM! They’re monthly payments are MORE than what Americans & our VETS receive!! They invaders are being rewarded with OUR $ for being FELONS! It’s DISGUSTING to me! Extremely WRONG! We as Americans must be First. And I 💯 believe the scammers must be held accountable
My daughter was born without all of her skull and 70% of her brain has abnormalities and she still hasn't got ssi she is 13 yet I know people with kids that have "anger" issues that got approved immediately it's bs. My case worker asked me if my child had any other race in her besides being white so she could be approved easier which is bullcrap! Your race and sex shouldn't even be a box marked it should be based on their diagnosis and condition
@@angieblove 7 years, here, and then I only received it for 3 years because none of my new doctors would bother with the forms. I had a strong case, to begin with.
A decomposing body will really find its way to get justice, no matter how hidden the culprits think it is.
Special Needs children deserve special love and attention and to be safe. Those who are responsible for hurting these kids deserve severe punishment. Sad cases indeed and im so sad when the vulnerable are mistreated in any way. Stay strong Ana and relax this weekend if u can ♡♡♡
The disabled sister moved in with her brother in January of 2018 and she was murdered months later?!? WTFFFFF!! He had no intention of helping her, she didn’t even last a few months there!!! How sad!!
These cases are so disturbing and heartbreaking! On the case of Max... In the state of North Carolina we are trained in nonviolent crisis intervention (NCI) and required to recertify every year. Not only the way they took Max down but the length of time they restrained him is unacceptable!!! This training is mandatory for anyone working with children and adults with special needs. I also wonder why the SRO, law enforcement and EMS were not called to intervene. I believe this could have been avoided had the teachers followed protocol.
Thank you for sharing that with us 🙏🏼
@@AnaGNews I always appreciate your information on these cases. I know it's devastating, I can hear it in your voice. You are awesome Ana...
Anna stated that the school had other means to handle the situation but, always chose to use excessive force instead.
Love True Crime daily!
Another supported reason as to Why cameras are needed in every classroom. With free uplink ability for each parent
Like Summer Wells sad.
Everyone let that baby down that was around her.
Omgosh! I am watching this year old episode..and its so awesome to look in the past and see you kept your word! A.Garcia had a subscriber on AND she responded to my recent comment! I bragged to everyone!
We were all trained and certified by the state. I didn't have a choice where my kids went, Connecticut took them from me saying with my disabilities and my sons as well, I couldn't properly care for them!
A dark closet for sensory overloaded children is a nightmare! That's abuse in and of itself! I HATE people who abuse disabled children! They need to get rid of " involuntary" manslaughter! The prosecutor needs to find out the law in that state on restraints, duration, position, ect. I'll bet they could up the charges! Please, please keep following this case so we can find out what happens!!
As a mom of a 13 year old son with autism... It breaks my heart for max and his family..
In Maggie’s case, was her check an actual paper check? In the state I live in most disability checks are direct deposited into an account and most of the stimulus checks were also direct deposited. My point is that if her brother had the debit card for Maggie’s account and knew her PIN number then they would have access to her check that easily. So incredibly sad and disturbing that they could do this to his own disabled sister! I’ll never understand ppl!! I have not had a chance to listen to the 2nd case yet. Thanks for the video.
We got physical checks for stimulus and my brother didn’t have a bank and got physical checks for ssi
Every week I say it can’t get any worse and then it does thank you ana for doing both cases justice and you always have the best guests amazing reporting thank you
This is heartbreaking
Parents please please please look into something called ABA therapy! It's a therapy DOES NOT use restraints when behaviors occur! I'm an ABA Behavioral Technician and what we do is when tantrum or any other negative behaviors happen, we teach them a positive replacement behavior. ABA is about patience and actually working with the kids. Not restraining them
I have an 8 year old in full time ABA, and he is thriving.
Being disabled, in a wheelchair and female, I can assure you, nobody even sees us.
Also, if she had cognitive difficulty, she would have had a payee - this is someone authorized to handle the recipient's bank account, income and finances. With a payee, the SSI/SSDI recipient could go missing for years and no one would know.
I’m so sorry you feel that way. Your comment broke my heart.
Thank you for that insight.
That’s really makes sense now.
And I see you 🙏🏼
@@AnaGNews Aw how kind are you!
I SEE YOU Read deeply ❤ 🙏 sent your way!!!!
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This is too heartbreaking 💔
In my nearly 14 year career working with individuals with special needs I have never used a restraint or seen anyone use one for spitting. In none of my restraint use training was spitting ever mentioned as a reason why a restraint would be used. Restraints are traumatic to the individual being restrained and have been somewhat phased out over the years except in extreme circumstances. They are not meant to be used as a method of control but to protect the individual from harming themselves or others. There is typically a written plan regarding the use of restraints which outline the methods that can be used and for how long. Also only the people who are trained in the proper use of restraints are allowed to perform them, at least in my professional experience. I've worked with some very violent individuals where restraint use was definitely a part of their case plan but there were very specific guidelines. I have never restrained a child though.
This is absolutely disgusting. Good God..
My roommate is a SPED teacher and is trained in restraint training and you don’t restrain for more than 5 min. In that time frame you are contacting the parents/guardians. My stepson actually worked at that school in a support staff position and he was so upset and pissed when this happened. We can’t believe it took this long to file the charges
I'm sorry, I work with people with special needs, mainly, with preschool children. For the past 26, years. We NEVER restraint any child or adult. That is abuse plain and simple. There are Professional Development Courses (8 hrs) we take on how to defuse a situation. You restraint another human being, be prepared to loose your job, and face criminal charges.
💖 unbelievable!
ANA, U LEND YOUR VOICE TO THE CHILDREN & DISABLED WHO HAVE NO VOICE. YOUR PASSION & EMPATHY R INSPIRING!
Omg my son too has autism and my son is such a calm boy he's 14 and they restrained him numerous times cause he had to use the bathroom he couldn't hold it so he ran to bathroom he didn't want to pee on hiself in front of class and then cause he couldn't wait to pee n left they made us go to mobile cruise my son suffered from anxiety he was so scared this isn't fair makes me sad teacher and staff are allowed to do these things an not call parent I was told I'm the last resort I'm always first absolutely disgusting heartbreaking
The two that killed the girl said they feel the victim is haunting them?? I hope they feel like that for the rest of their lives, paranoid and haunted.
I really do appreciate your passion for these cases and for
Your classy delivery of some really difficult content! Definitely tops on my true crime podcasts!!
I am crying my eyes out for these cases So Sad 😞
As an employee in our school district, we have numerous training in safety, no matter what positions we hold, three times, if not more, per year.
My heart hurts for these two precious loves, who deserved better, and for their families and loved ones, we send our love and prayers for your terrible loss🙏🙏🙏
Max‘s parents should sue the California Department of education. They do not protect their teachers and have no plan in place for situation like this
These days benefits are paid by direct deposit so no one would actually be cashing any checks since paper checks are no longer sent. It is more convenient but it definitely makes it easier for so called caregivers to take the money
SET THEM AFIRE !!!
Ana these are terrible cases & you ask every question we are all thinking,you are so compassionate, and there is just something about you that makes you different from other reporters...you have great guests like this episode so this is the best podcast I've seen regarding crime....keep it up and please know I truly wish I knew you!!
so heart wrenching !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!all these individuals need to be made to stand outside the court yard
My favorite podcast & RUclips show♥️
The passion Anna Garcia shows speaks for us all on this!
Oh mann. That second case.. i have 2 special needs kids. 1 more severe than the other. When he was younger there were times hed have to be restrained, but you only do that breifly!! The minute the child starts to calm/become more aware, you change to different calming techniques! I can very easily put myself in the parent position. I understand at least some of what they were dealing with, so this hits even closer to home than other cases. I know we are lucky my kids schools have been great and that as hes gotten older he has gotten better. My heart breaks for this family.
Everywhere we have lived( we moved allot cuz we were military) the special ed teachers were trained in safe restraint techniques, sometimes by psychiatrists sometimes by special instructors, and had to pass testing on the techniques. Allot if the schools had time limits for restraints.. and if by that time limit the child was not calmed down.. they would call 911 and parents.
Yes, I studied Special Ed, and taught in schools, and there is always a protocol for severe behavioral issues. One reason I am not still in the field is the lack of supportive staff and resources, in many schools.
It was a special school so those teachers adults should have been trained properly to look after situations like this… the big fail came from those adults for not calling for help if they couldn’t restrain him humanly… grrrr
I was a Special needs teacher. To restrain a child for 1 hour & 45 minutes is 1. Mind blowing & 2. It tells me this staff had stopped looking at these children as human. The other children had to have been traumatized too. Who restrains anyone for this amount of time? I
t’s good that the school has been closed down. It obviously had grown into a dark, evil culture.
I hope the girl who was murdered DID haunt them. I hope she never stops.
Ana your the best bringing life to these cases ❤
Criminal! The teachers should be held accountable too the fullest!
Love what you do. Thank you so much.
Thanks for watching!
I worked a job last year where the principal referred to this case of the 13-year-old as the reasoning for his rule. Even if he had people on staff who were trained in restraint and knew how to do proper CPI restraints, we were not allowed to according to the school. We were also not allowed to call 911 if a situation escalated to the point we were considering CPI restraint on an individual. We were also not allowed to contact administration if the situation escalated past the point of proper CPI restraint protocol. I point-blank asked the principal what he expected us to do if a situation had escalated to that point if we were not allowed to CPI restrain, call 911, OR contact administration for backup. I wish I were kidding, but I was let go from the program that day for "unprofessional behavior." My "unprofessional behavior" came down to me just asking the question in a very blank tone of voice WITH witnesses who could verify I did nothing wrong.
Yes, I made all the necessary reports, and yes there is an ongoing investigation. Unfortunately, I don't think anything will come of it, nothing ever does. It's going to come down to the point where a student has to kill another student before something gets done about the administration covering their butts to the point of putting both staff and students in extreme danger. A child was hospitalized at the end of last school year (about three months after I was let go for my "unprofessional behavior") because the staff are literally not allowed to do anything, and a STUDENT had to call 911 to get help because the school staff were just standing around. For anyone who thinks this kind of thing doesn't happen and is just made up: I really wish it were.
Restraining a child of that size in a strong and violent way = assault. So, this school, with its specialized services for children with special needs should ABSOLUTELY have a room where a child can have a time-out, so the only restraint would have been to get him there, not wrestle him physically until he died. School closed, lawsuits until everyone involved runs dry!!!!
The brother probably kept collecting benefits because the money was probably direct deposited. If Social Security is not notified they keep sending the benefits.
True. But they’re also supposed to have an appt with you every 12-18 months to go over any new changes. The only time that appt has been waived was during Covid but they still needed updated info (care taker, dr, bank account info, etc.)
The couple sound as if they are VERY intellectually CHALLENGED !!!!!! GO TEAM MASGGIE !!!!
These criminals must love to play Limbo ! "How low can you go?"🎶
Justice for Maggie 💜 and Max 💙!! RIP
It’s horrific, Social Security is direct deposit into an bank account or Electronic Benefits Transaction Account, (EBT) SS would have at payee in place for the young girl. Which requires an annual update of how her funds were being spent. (Rent, food, clothes) this will help with the fraud. Hope these people rot in hell.
A child died at that school, someone or many others are responsible. Justice needs to be served.
Some SS are still sent in the form of paper checks.
Throw the book at all of them!!🤬
Yes special education teachers are required to be trained in intervention techniques yearly. And restraining should only be used as a last result when the safety of others or the child is in danger and as soon as the behavior stops the restraining stops. It is not to be used as punishment!
I have an autistic son who will be 23 next month, he is non verbal and can be a handful when he wants to but he is always smiling, always happy. I can't even imagine someone doing this to him, this is horrible. There is a special place in heaven for kids like this and a very special place in hell for abusers and killers of such children, I assure you,
To kill your disabled sister for money is despicable. I hope she continues to haunt them every time they try and close their eyes in their prison cells. 👻
I’m glad the DA overruled the Sheriff and went after those responsible for Max’s death. He may have been a big boy on the outside but as you said Ana he was only 13yrs and had wet himself and vomited in fear and terror. What that last hour and half must’ve been like for him is unimaginable for one so young with special needs. I know you’ll keep us updated on the case.
Good on you too for the other you helped with where they were locking the little boy in a dark cupboard! I have seen some of your videos as a crime reporter and interviewer. You were and still are awesome 🤩
9/25/22 - Thank you Ana, sending love!
Anna, in reference to “doesn’t one agency talked to another?” & I can tell you that after having been in LE, NO, NO THEY DO NOT USE COMMON SENSE OR TALK TO EACH OTHER. Its sad but true..with all the technology & programs, you’d think that someones name would get flagged who’s a missing & endangered adult..but no
Katherine - you said it perfectly:
No one here used common sense. It doesn’t take a law degree or badge to know something is NOT right here!!