Currency Wars: Lining Up the Dollar Dominoes (w/ Brent Johnson and Lyn Alden)
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Brent Johnson, CEO of Santiago Capital, joins Lyn Alden of Lyn Alden Investment Strategy for an in-depth discussion on the fate of the world's most important currency: the U.S. dollar. Johnson gives a strategic update on his "Dollar Milkshake" thesis and explains his bullish long-term view of the dollar, based on the outstanding glut of dollar-denominated debt. Alden considers this analysis and introduces a less bullish view, which she bases on the U.S.'s high trade deficit and negative net international investment position (NIIP). Using many detailed charts, Alden and Johnson compare their ideas and reach something of a synthesis between their two views. The pair also reflect on the dollar's status as the world's reserve currency, and they also explore whether a move to a multipolar currency world is possible. Filmed on June 16, 2020.
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Let's imagine an alternate world that consists of the USA and 10 other nations with floating exchange rates. To keep the math simple, let us imagine the current exchange rates to the USD are all 1:1. The other countries increase their currency supply 10% each and swap the newly printed currency for USD's. But to do this the USA has to increase its currency supply by 100%. That may not matter so long as foreign demand for the USD remains strong, but what happens in the future if foreign demand for the USD weakens?
Lyn is the absolute rockstar of these talks. She can extemporise clear answers to just about any questions and also sees the bigger picture, eg, the possibility social unrest.
upvote for "extemporise". BTW, Google says you're British.
@@bo840 Australian
@@peterwright9934 Same thing. We own you.
Is she trans?
Like Ray Dalio is trying to alert us to.
Lyn understands and can explain these topics better than ANYBODY out there and I listen to many.
I'm also a fan of Lyn Alden's articles/broadcasts but well worth looking up Grant Williams e.g. his videos 'Cry Wolf' and 'Nobody Cares'
Agree, Lyn is great but there is one more on RUclips, Fed observer.
So glad I just found her!
I like the engagement. You look down the comment section and people are caught up in being right or wrong. This is just a chance to have brilliant people discuss this topic with 2 views. You can learn a lot from both. Reality is this isn't the type conversation you overhear at starbucks. This is more like back patio talk you never hear.
It's like a student pitching his ideas to the prof looking for validation and gets none.
Lyn is stunningly brilliant and articulate... we are seeing the emergence of an economics/investing super star👏
How can any dislike this conversation? The thoughts and data they present are amazing. Great they finally got together in this video. Thank you for this content
It's probably because she's a transexual
Well if thats true wich I'm not buying she's a hot trans
Lyn is my absolute favourite person to hear talk about investing. Brent is great too :D
listening to her talk gives me nerdgasms
Brent Johnson, CEO of Santiago Capital, and ski instructor at your local resort.
Affirmative action at its best. Transsexuals Sony make your content better real vision. Get woke, go broke.
@@ra803g6 Huh?
Haha, I was wondering about that vest as well - is it cold in San Fran right now?
At least he's not in his bathrobe again.
tcorourke2007 haha! I actually said the same exact thing when I first turned it on
Lyn is too very diplomatic for not crushing his Milk Shake theory right there in his face. But i don't even think Brett would get it. This lady is too brilliant.
In the long run, Triffin Dilemma > Milkshake theory. And it isn't going to be close.
Lyn fully understands the Triffin Dilemma. Brent is very short-sighted vs. her long-term view.
You simp
🤣🤣🤣
I enjoyed this interview a lot.
Brent Johnson is so confused that he doesn't understand Lyn Alden's lesson. You don't need US dollar reserves if you run a trade surplus (or a current account surplus). Reserves come from the accumulation of surpluses!
The U.S. Dollar may be going higher by some measures but I just paid $10.12 for a Subway sandwich. That's a OK sandwich with no drink, fries or side! That's super high inflation.
I got a spicy Italian with cookies and a drink today -$10. where do you live and what kind of sub did you buy?
Potato chips $4 a bag too.
This stinking Ponzi Dollar is finished.
There's a five dollar menu....
BOOM nailed it
What a revelation , Since I learned to know Lyn : she can explain in such clear language, what others spit out.
Very realistic analyses and predictions.
Lyn is an absolute genius. She explains it so well.
To me, Lyn is more convincing than Brent in this quickly changing world.
ELLINAS ISE ?
Brent: you need to stop interupting before the lady completes her thought.
"i cannot figure out- therefore it will never happen" brent johnson
After a day of studying mechanical engineering, watching financial content like this feels much less taxing
Brent was looking for support for his milkshake and got none. Perhaps the biggest surprise of the century will be if the dollar bottom runs out.
No he wasnt. She is well known to take another side of the argument
@@orpheusepiphanes2797 I agree with you. Real vision have done a great job getting these two together to debate the dollar. 👍 Great job to both Brent and Lyn for a classy discussion.
I agree. Both of them are super smart, but I think she made Brent think hard about some potential cracks in his dollar milkshake theory.
She's 2 stronk for Brent! She has an answer for everything, and they come without her even needing to process the questions, she just knows her area of expertise so so well.
peter schiff called and asked to get your gold coin ready for him 😂😂😂
One of the most interesting debates I've seen this year so far...great stuff guys
Lyn wins
It looked to me like an interview, not a debate.
Lyn alden is on a completely different level
Wonderful dialogue. I'm familiar with both base theories and current positions, so nothing said was new for me. But the far-sighted exchanges by two humble, economic thinkers, and doers, was very encouraging and refreshing. Thank you!
I bet you everyone will start to invite her to their shows... very smart and well explained answers.
Two very professional operators! Congratulations to you both.
Great talk both. It's refreshing to see people disagree with a smile as you said. More of this please.
These people are brilliant. I realy enjoyed this conversation. I do not understand everything but I am learning. For me Gold, certain US stocks and the Dollar. I live in Europe.
brent needs to close some longs and buy gold coins for Peter. Lyn is very smart
The milkshake is looking shaky.
The game isn't over, but it's looking like the Fed will do anything to keep the dollar down.
Still lookin shaky ?
will see about that in april
Constantly amazed at Lyn's wealth of information, understanding and knowledge.
The only person understanding you two...
is Lord Gammon, The Macro Interpreter.
Seriously, he should be running commentary for you, pausing you, telling us what you said, and why we care. Your viewership will double.
Even the graphs were unintelligible. I mean 3d triangles!? Seriously?
This was the best interview by 2 Brilliant financial minds that an everyday Joe like myself cant actually get to see and hear and understand that Real Vision has brought to the table for myself and others I cant Thank you enough for this content which otherwise I would never be able to afford to get this kind of research so again I want to Thank You Real Vision and everyone involved
Wow, this has got to be one of the greatest real vision talks out there.
This was a fascinating conversation; like an intellectual "ping-pong" match...However, this was a top-down analysis, social and societal factors were not fully considered. Dr. Shiller usually mentions " animal spirits" in his analysis. This "bottom-up" view considers social stability as a factor that will allow this geo-economic "shell" game to continue. Various uprisings in the US, France, Germany , and other Western nations should be factored in as possible big "spoilers" to erudite macro analysis.......Thank you , Brent and Lyn for your valued and respected views and scenarios..........Godspeed........
Absolutely! And since jobs are going to be missing, social unrests are bound to happen. And wait for the next terrorist threats...
Checkmate!!!!!!!
Wow lyn is amazing. Lyn should do a debate with schiff.
Schiff wouldn't touch that w a 10 ft pole
For lack of a better word.
I don't want to put words in your mouth....
Lyn's massive strength, in addition to her control theory mindset, is her ability explain complex areas. She does not require pre loading by Brent.
I don't like milkshakes.
Brent picking up a chick at a bar: So for lack of a better word, can we make mattress music?
Brent Talked to much. Lyn has exceptional knowledge and perspective on what is happening. It would have been nice to hear more from Lyn and her perspective!
LYN is definitely one of the smartest and must be followed
Dollar milk-shake-shake brings all of the FX to the yard
Wow. You went there eh. I was wondering when I would see something along these lines. It's finally happened.
I usually like Brent but he was a bit prickly with Lyn who frankly is brilliant. Maybe it's just me but I think Lyn deserves better than what Brent gave
It's just you. You misread the situation.
Lyn has a very listentoable voice.
Is she a dude?
Yup and has interesting things to say.
@ Winifred Fowler - Totally.... I don’t care either way. Lyn’s a dish.
@@redpillcopinthephilippines9647 Tut!....Lord, but you're fussy!
@@redpillcopinthephilippines9647 No. She's just a contralto.
this women..is amazing ..I have never heard someone that speak so with clarity and conviction ...amazing!!
"For lack of a better word, I don't want to put words in your mouth."
Notice how she mirrors those two lines back at him in the conversation? She's sharp.
I wish I had discovered Lyn earlier - she is amazing. Learned so much from her.
peter schiff is milkshake drinking brents gold coins 😂😂😂 "i drink them up"
I’ve been waiting to see these two get together. Fantastic discussion/debate, Real Vision. This makes up for the Kelton spoon-fed “interview”.
Brent "For a lack of better word" Johnson
Brent "I don't want to put words in your mouth." Johnson.
Confused on huge dollar rally theory: currently 5yr vs other fiat and gold below: Has the dollar really been that strong?
-4.01% vs Swiss franc- 5 years
-5.58% vs Euro 5 year
-14.53% vs Japanese yen 5 year
-73.10% vs Gold 5 year
-33% vs Gold 1 year
-22% vs Gold last 6 months
-Is the dollar going all of a sudden going to make a substantial reversal in a crisis/squeeze? Maybe it can close the gap but I don’t see how it would be substantial enough to reverse its losses relative to other currencies and gold when it already has performed poorly yet deemed as being strong? Doesn’t make sense considering how flawed the dollar is.
Hey, it’s up 682% vs the Argentinian peso!!
Correction -4% vs Swiss franc over 5 year
Awesome discussion, thank you Lyn and Brent! I just love listening to this intellectual and analytical thinking and discussion.
The best video I seen in a while. I thought I was going to be teeth puling because the length of the video in the beginning but I was engage in the discussion all the time!!!! Great inside.
Awesome discussion guys, best spent hour and a quarter of my week. RVF gets best analysts and I always come away feeling educated on a topic. My first exposure to Lyn Alden . Will scan the net for more of her analysis as she exhibits great ability to explain her positions in a convincing and authoritative way without leaving her audience in the dust.
Loved this! Felt like a debate between peers rather than a one sided interview. Made it much more entertaining and it was nice to see the holes in each others logic
I have recently moved to reading up on macro economics and this is the best channel I find .Thank you . Have subscribed to the newsletter
I disagree with the dollar milkshake but i must admit that Brent is a real gentleman. Congratulations for this kind interview of your opponent.
wow lyn and brent awesome video
Some of the countries that have the USD swap lines have not even used them.
Brent, I have a question for you. By doing swaps, the US is making the dollar weak since the other party will spend the dollars thus increasing the total amount of US dollars, while US will keep the printed counterparty currency and thus sterilizing it. This is how the dollar is going lower against the other currencies. The net amount of newly issued dollar maters, and with 0 interest rates, by rolling the swap the other party is providing only the interest (mostly nothing) but enjoying the power purchase of the dollars while FED is keeping the counterparty currency looked, thus sterilized. What do you say about this?
Very interesting point. Hopefully he can reply.
@@lillix8826 No reply yet.....
If I understand this correctly (and I very well may not) I think his point is that the swaps ultimately remove dollar debt (deflationary). The only reasons the other countries hyperinflate their currency is to secure dollars to pay down dollar denominated debt. Therefore the local currency hyper inflates and the dollars dry up. I could be completely mistaken about that though.
I enjoyed the interview. I also read Lyn's article on gold earlier this month. It's informative and well-structured!
Great discussion! Lynn again simplifies complex economic issues in a way we can all understand!
Simply beautiful exchanging!
Thank you!
Dollar down, gold up. Brent is going to pay Peter another gold coin
Came here just to say the same thing. Lol
@@rof8200 Came here just to see that someone had posted it :)
Lyn Alden is full of class
Interesting discussion.
The thought experiment presented by Lyn is particularly interesting: what if the swap lines are made to be permanent as a first move towards a multipolar currency system? If there would be agreement on that, then it is mainly a matter of printing by multiple central banks in such an order that you can work towards currency equilibrium, especially if it is in step and pace with some degree of deglobalisation. That could be a way out.
I enjoyed your episode and really appreciate your breaking down both your views 👍
👍 Glad to see this debate and these two have a great discussion. There was so much great info in this one video. Great work from both Brent and Lyn👍👍👍 Nice one realvision for for getting these two together.
one thing to consider between the two of them is the difference in their role. Brent is CEO of while Lyn is an analyst. This isn't a dig at Lyn, rather Lyn is freer to make a speculative prediction while Brent who is in charge of many clients has to make a more conservative prediction for his clients.
Wow what a incredibly smart women... Humble to, welldone, obviously a genius child from birth. and she has social skills .. amazing.
So brilliant and relevant today, thanks guys
This should be taught in University! Greetings from Hamburg, Germany
Awesome conversation and nice to hear both sites.
As always Lyn was sharp as a samurai sword and explains with such ease her perspective.
Thanks to the both of you, I got some of the missing puzzles in place.
Have an amazing day all of you. p.s. The video says airdate june 22 ?
Lyn is very sharp
Great discussion. I always like to hear different perspectives on currencies, especially the Euro dollar issue and currency swaps. But my biggest question for Brent is whether he has hedged his gold coin bet with Peter Schiff by buying it before this recent surge.
24:43 "what do you think happens to the dollar in that environment?" MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!
Great minds providing clarity to the current mess our leaders have us in
This "interview" could have been so much better if Brent didn't have to relate every question to his milkshake theory.
I don't think it's an interview. Normally the interviewer's name isn't listed in the description. Brent's is
IMO that's the whole point of Brent interviewing Lyn.. is to debate his theory with her. I think this interview is awesome. We get to see Lyn responds to Brent's theory and as they said it's all come down to whether the FED can print enough USD into the market. I'm on Lyn's side. The FED will flood the market with USD. UBI is coming soon!
I loved this discussion. Thank you so much both of you. We’ve really enjoyed it. Makes for a smart cautious investors. When is the next video ?
It was great listening to you both very smart people
I love your mind Lyn!
not clear if the host is debating economic explanations or reciting a wish list
Style points for Brent's headphone color matching his vest.
Thanks guys excellent conversation. Intelligent and informative appreciate the efforts to help the masses navigate this mine field.
Isn't it just the same old debt backed, fiat generated currency Ponzi scheme problems exposed in deflationary times pushed out into more ponds? One of the best Real Vision episodes.
She is the Dr. Ronda Patrick of global debt.
Lyn Alden for president
Repeatedly in the interview she takes an association and assumes causation the wrong way. A and B happened together historically, therefore A causes B. When in reality , B is causing A and this has a profound impact on her conclusions.
Is there anyone sharper than Lyn or Lacy in macro??? If so, let us know
Interest rates are dead. No way can we afford even paying the interest on the debt at these levels. We are cooked and don't even know it.
Just a Caveat for Brett yo are a icon too ... welldone for the interview.. shows you have a case for macro.
I believe Brent's main thesis here is that there is a global shortage of "better words"
Yo, she is dropping gems! All ears here yo!
Great video 👍. Always nice to hear intelligent conversation.
Thx guys alot of nice insights into the operational mechanics of the FED and USD reactions
Brent is sitting in the Cold War metrics and economy, USD/OIL model. We are moving for a Currency and Trade Balances model, FED has created a wall of high value assets in US market to kick out USD from domestic market. That is the pressure on China to create one trust stock market and probably will move to others market as well. More global growth is expected... some chaos also, as usual. Short term, who knows...
His milkshake is fermented, turned sour and starts to smell. Bail, bail, bail !!!!
Brent needs to take his Go USA blinkers off and be less parochial. Lyn is very convincing of her argument, Brent less so.
If commodity trading is done in multi currency, at which value will sellers give their products? 1:1 on the euro? 1:7 on the Yuan? How?)))
I like the contrast of both personalities, right down to the difference of their attire
Great exchange very enlightening...
Fantastic conversation. Most honnest and interesting in along while.
Lyn is awesome
Brent, Ask your guest a question - we are watching this to hear her not so much you. Well Don't put words in her mouth then.