I never understood why anyone liked this guy's voice. High pitched squeeling. Don't get me wrong I love great high notes with power behind them like Rob Halford or Steve Perry.
Some would say he sounded like Mickey Thomas (Starship) or Steve Walsh (Kansas). Definitely different than what Journey had sounded like, and did sound like with Steve Perry.
Story telling is one of the things that sets Steve apart from everyone else. I've heard one crutic say it sounds like he's harmonizing with himself, but it's a single take.
You wouldn't say that if Steve were the original singer and this guy sang the version you've always known. You would say, "That Steve Perry guy didn't have the range my boy Fleischman has, good enough as he was." It's all hype.
Robert WAS the lead singer for 5 to 6 months. The record label insisted that Journey get a frontman that could lift the band and make the band more palatable for the mainstream audience. Gregg Rolie and Neal Schon liked and wanted Robert. However, Robert Fleischman had his own manager. And Robert wouldn't abandon his manager to sign with Journey manager Herbie Herbert. So Herbie brought Steve Perry along to help 'roadie' with the band as the band toured with Fleischman. Steve Perry learned the songs and was basically being an understudy for Robert. When Herbie couldn't convince Robert to sign with him, Herbie fired Fleischman and told Journey that Steve (the roadie-as they considered him) to be the new lead singer. Both Gregg and Neal didn't like Perry's voice as they considered him a 'crooner' and they preferred the 'screamer' Fleischman. But Steve was able to write with Schon and win him over. I don't know if the relationship between Rolie and Perry was ever really comfortable though. It seems that the more Perry gained influence and power in the band structure, the more Rolie didn't want to be there. Ultimately, the band rightly sided with Perry to amazing success. Tellingly, neither Fleischman nor Rolie would see great success after leaving. And indeed, neither would Journey after moving on without Perry (studio-wise).
Man. Excellent post. I posted on another video of Bob's that I didn't think Rollie and Perry vibed; hence, the Baby's keyboardist. You said it better, though. That "fire" CD they put out in the mid 90's was it for me. It was horrible, and lent great strength to Rollie's "he's a crooner" statement.
Fleischman did a successfull album with Vinnie Vincent, and Vinnie wanted to resume to work with Robert, but Robert refused the contract that Vinnies producer gave him. And Robert had a success as a composer) he wrote the main track to Spange Bob, as I know :)
The label was right. Guy's got pipes, but this version sounds like a "look at how I can wail" song, rather than the musical masterpiece that Perry made it. When Fleischman sings it now, he sings the album version and not this one. Even he knows.
Fleischman was also difficult to work with according to Herbie. He basically had lead singers disease and they hadn't even gotten started yet and he just wasn't going to deal with him and his manager. And as Herbie stated, Steve was very quite at that point and basically was on the verge of leaving music. True the band wanted Robert but Herbie made the right call and as you said, after Steve started writing with Neal, we got the classic Journey lineup. As for Rolie I think they got along fine until Steve himself started becoming difficult of which Herbie has fully acknowledged. Afterall Herbie would be shown the door by Steve eventually. By the point Rolie bailed he had nearly two decades in music under his belt and needed a break. As for life after Journey for Gregg he appears to have been more than happy to slowdown. He had a few projects like the Storm but I think he was happy with the quiet life and heading up Ringo's All Star Band and Abraxas. I do think Gregg would have, and wanted to take up the offer to join back up with Journey that Neal wanted for the Anniversary tour but that was all nixed by Jon Cain. In fact if Cain had his way, Gregg would not have been at the RnR HOF induction. I have no use for Cain.
please keep in mind that this is a demo... producers usually work with the band/singer to smooth out parts that may be objectionable. For musicians, it is always easier to embellish on a song than it is to come with the original part. I think the final version is very close to this and Steve did a fabulous job on the finished product.
Yes, this vocal is likely the way Fleischman would sing it in a live concert setting, not as a polished studio radio-ready track. The producers would have requested him to tone down the extras and stick mostly to the melody for the album's track, which is what Steve Perry did. Fleischman can embellish all he wants in a live stage setting. I'd also point out that this may be one of the very first times the band has put this track together in this cohesive of a way. It's possible that Fleischman had only sung this song a handful of times at the time of this recording... meaning, he didn't yet have a handle on it.
Listening to it over and over again I’m liking it more and more .When this was probably recorded this was the style of the time no matter how good Steve sings it remember this guy put down the foundation of this song and gave it its sound and flavor of what we hear today what a raw version thanks
geez, ive been a journey fan since the 70s. I didn't know about this guy. not a bad singer at all! but damn, steves vocals are untouchable on this song! especially on the Captured album, wow! sure wish greg rollie and steve would rejoin the band again....
Wow...obviously, Steve Perry is a vocal god (arguably, the greatest rock singer who ever lived) but, man, Robert Fleischman has a range beyond belief! Incredible!
@@AllanJonesband He was also a dick...from my personal experience with him and shortly after that and other instances he was let go and Steve was brought in to front the band.
@@AllanJonesband .. To each their own. He was perfect in VVI. Slaughter tried to replicate him and totally sucked. Had he sung it like Perry did, it would have sounded just fine, because he has an incredible range. I agree he sounded shrill, but it was an early demo
His voice is pretty good, but I've still not heard a single voice in my entire life that is better than Steve Perry's... Just my opinion, but there it is lol.
Apparently, he was a real diva. They brought Steve on tour using the ruse that he was one of the roadies' Portuguese cousin. During a sound check, when diva Robert stopped off, Herbie gave Steve the nod. Steve sang a song and everyone in the venue stopped to listen, giving him.a standing ovation when it was over. Herbie told Robert his services were no longer required and Steve took over as the frintman.
This is Robert Plant verses Sam Cook. Both great singers, just different styles/influences/approaches. I too prefer the Sam Cook/Steve Perry approach but imagine Perry in Led Zeppelin. Lol
It doesn’t even sound like same song. His squeals are just too much. Sounds like he’s faking the high notes. Great song. But Steve took it to the stratosphere!!
Its really good...but Steve Perry is a vocal unicorn. As awesome as this is, there's no touching Steve Perry. Fleishman is a Damn good singer, and I'm glad he made it big and isn't only remembered as the guy before Steve Perry.
Dwayne Cole : He sang lead on the debut album by the Vinnie Vincent Invasion in the late 80s. GREAT album if you like hair metal. But before the videos were filmed or they went on tour, he was fired and replaced by Mark Slaughter.
@ChuggityMuggs1 I’m sure they did a little bit, but they don’t need to. Perry was incredible on live versions of this song. And everything else, really.
@@JoelTheGreatAndHumble From what I remember Mark Slaughter saying in an interview, Fleischman didn't want to tour with Vinnie and he left. So Vinnie, begrudgingly,used Mark ("Vinnie said, 'alright, we'll use the kid'" - Mark Slaughter.)
To all the haters, this is really good. No. He is not Steve Perry, but if you heard this in a Journey concert prior to Perry, you'd like it. Just admit it. And get over it.
Wow. This guy is also an amazing vocalist. So soulful and powerful. Love the high notes he hits. Was curious to hear the singer prior to Perry. Both so great.
Very cool to listen to this. I’m a huge Journey fan and have loved all of their lead vocalists (Steve Perry in particular) but I’m not feeling it on this one. He’s got great range, but he’s all over the place.
I am glad that Robert received a credit for this song. Since Diane Valory (Sister of Journey bassest Ross Valory) wrote the lyrics in a poem called "Wheel in my mind", Robert Fleischman was the one who created the vocal melody Perry used: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_in_the_Sky
Actually, if you look at the song credits on the Infinity album the song was written by Robert Fleishman, Stephen Ray Perry, Gregg Rollie, Matthew A. Schon, and Neal J. Schon. Listed in that order on the album. Robert Fleishman wasn't the only one who wrote the song.
@@monchorga I played with Robert in the mid-70s in a touring club band. He brought the basics of the song to rehearsal way back then. He was an exceptional vocalist. His Robert Plant covers were untouchable. That said, his personality was...difficult.
@@monchorgaPara agregar créditos cambian una palabra o línea y se hacen "participes de la composición", pero eso no quiere decir que realmente lo sean.
The record label was about to drop them before they got Steve Perry they probably would have been dropped with Robert Fleischman he has a good voice but was not good enough to keep the band going Steve Perry saved Journey
I don't think theres anything wrong with this demo, hes got a very good voice, it just needed that punch that perry is known for, I think people get thrown off because were so used to the final perry version, but really not bad.
Absolutely love Robert with Vinnie but this is merely a demo of what might have been had the gods not handed Journey Steve Perry. Nobody even Steve himself can top the Infinity version.
Wow, this guy has pipes. What a great singer. I mean he does not have perry's soul and lets be real, steve Perry is probably a top 5 rock vocalist of all time.
Fleischman just yelled out words, Perry put the emotion into it. Agreed with someone else who said that Fleischman was a "metal" singer, that's more his speed.
Ummmm… yeah, look up vinnie vincent invasion - (first album has Fleishman after that was mark slaughter). He was amazeballs at metal singing. Put some headphones on and prepare to be absolutely devastated by the gods of metal.
Let's be fair: it's very likely that every commenter has heard the Infinity version of this song and is comparing this performance to the Infinity version.
I may be the only one out here that digs this version best. Yes, the Steve Perry version is impeccable. No doubt. But I have this thing for the original version of songs. Ironically, i probably wouldn't appreciate this version as much without the other. It's a strange feedback loop.
I understand you. I am like that. I think I like Steve Perry better but this is refreshing to hear an original. Something different but yet the same and good. Sometimes live stuff, local cover bands or utube covers or remakes can by original are like that sometimes.
His vocal style is slightly more metallic than Steve Perry. Seems like they might have gone in more of a heavy metal direction instead of AOR with Fleischmann. Perhaps Neal would have enjoyed that more, and perhaps Aynsley would have stayed on drums instead of joining Whitesnake if Journey had gone metal?
LOL....I never liked this guys vocals...Steve brought the soul, this is not blues he's screeching like he did in Vinnie Vincent Invasion. Annoying! trying to be Robert Pant and failing epically. If the label and management wanted them to go in a more commercial direction and have hits then Steve Perry has proven to be the magic they needed. They would have failed with this guy. He has no Soul...Just screeches.
What more would you expect from a 70s demo??? They would hardly spend that much time mixing and mastering a demo-- polishing comes with additional time in studio with a well-rehearsed or phenomenal singer-- we know which one Perry is-- and some mastering to finish it.
Just going to say, that this is the exact same video that I posted over 5 years ago. I mean, I am glad that the demo is out there now, and I know the pictures are not mine, but maybe you could give me credit for putting the video together? That or maybe make your own video?
Rob has a strong voice with an amazing range! Now I feel Journey were real reluctant to find a singer...Rolie was in Santana...so Rob comes in and goes way into metal turf...they reject him and next reluctant singer turns into Steve...those guys knew an odd hybrid like Steve...his style was more Sam Cooke less Deep Purple so master musicians made an compromise. The style was unique...closer to rock and true inspiration they were looking for.
Fleischman wasn't with Journey long, less than a year. They did not make a lot of headway, but then they never got to the point of releasing an album, which would have surely contained the songs Robert wrote which Steve Perry sang on Infinity. Robert was hired because Columbia records, concerned over the groups low album sales, demanded they sing more and hire a lead to stand in front. He hit it off with the other band members, but Herbie Herbert, Journey's very powerful manager, was irked that Fleischman refused to leave his own manager and get under Herbert's umbrella. Furthermore, Robert was not Herbie's type of guy, Herbert referring to Fleischman as a "poodle". Robert has stated he wasn't really devastated by the firing as he always felt better off musically and personally as a solo act in control of his own destiny. He kept on good terms with his former Journey mates over the years, with them appearing on Robert's 1979 solo album, and Robert is the occasional opening act for the Arnel Pineda version of Journey. Robert also lives near Steve Perry and they are very good friends.
@@wheelinthesky300 The irony is that, as I understand it, eventually it was Steve Perry who insisted on firing Herbie Herbert. Should stuck with Robert, Herbie! Oops.
How much did you guys have to settle to use Wheel? Is it worth $250,000 for a concert standard in perpetuity? I thought the new arrangement was much better.
I recorded this song off the radio onto a cassette and played it when ever I felt like hearing it. Was the first Journey song I ever heard and in turn became a huge fan of the band. 40+ years later I’m finding out Robert wrote the song...strange. It’s weird to think that 2 incredible singers assumed your job and sang your songs and even lip synced videos to your music, which in turn led to him getting the boot from Journey & VV. His stage presence was way strange...trying to slide his feet across the stage and a really weird dance move..just weird & embarrassing. Here’s a good interview with R.F. ruclips.net/video/xNyAk0D9aZ4/видео.html
Have only listened to this one song by him. He's very weak and absolutely no 'soul' or feelings in his delivery. Journey would have folded if they stuck with him.
The addition of these 4 songs (especially with Steve Perry) ruins the sonic and stylistic identity of the album. For me Next is Journey's latest and best album. I never bought a Journey album again after that. Please don't ruin these albums with artificial collages. On the other hand I like the instrumental, but it has nothing to do there.
This guy has a fantastic voice. Steve's is just on another level entirely.
I can't sing anything like this guy. Amazing vocals but still Steve took it out of the stratosphere
Robert is truly a heavy metal singer.
He was so good in the vinnie vincent first album
His voice is fantastic, but Steve Perry was born to sing those songs. His voice is beyond the scope and he sings with more heartfelt emotion.
Yes and Robert sings too fast
What is a scope in relation to music exactly? How does one go beyond it?
Actually Robert wrote this one so obviously he was meant to sing it
I never understood why anyone liked this guy's voice. High pitched squeeling. Don't get me wrong I love great high notes with power behind them like Rob Halford or Steve Perry.
Some would say he sounded like Mickey Thomas (Starship) or Steve Walsh (Kansas). Definitely different than what Journey had sounded like, and did sound like with Steve Perry.
Steve Perry's version really tell a great story through his soulful sincere delivery and we'll controlled silky voice‼️
Story telling is one of the things that sets Steve apart from everyone else. I've heard one crutic say it sounds like he's harmonizing with himself, but it's a single take.
You wouldn't say that if Steve were the original singer and this guy sang the version you've always known. You would say, "That Steve Perry guy didn't have the range my boy Fleischman has, good enough as he was." It's all hype.
@@TheKitchenerLeslie perry hype? really?
@@galas062 I think you don't know how to read, scrote.
Robert WAS the lead singer for 5 to 6 months.
The record label insisted that Journey get a frontman that could lift the band and make the band more palatable for the mainstream audience.
Gregg Rolie and Neal Schon liked and wanted Robert.
However, Robert Fleischman had his own manager. And Robert wouldn't abandon his manager to sign with Journey manager Herbie Herbert.
So Herbie brought Steve Perry along to help 'roadie' with the band as the band toured with Fleischman.
Steve Perry learned the songs and was basically being an understudy for Robert.
When Herbie couldn't convince Robert to sign with him, Herbie fired Fleischman and told Journey that Steve (the roadie-as they considered him) to be the new lead singer.
Both Gregg and Neal didn't like Perry's voice as they considered him a 'crooner' and they preferred the 'screamer' Fleischman.
But Steve was able to write with Schon and win him over.
I don't know if the relationship between Rolie and Perry was ever really comfortable though. It seems that the more Perry gained influence and power in the band structure, the more Rolie didn't want to be there.
Ultimately, the band rightly sided with Perry to amazing success.
Tellingly, neither Fleischman nor Rolie would see great success after leaving.
And indeed, neither would Journey after moving on without Perry (studio-wise).
Man. Excellent post. I posted on another video of Bob's that I didn't think Rollie and Perry vibed; hence, the Baby's keyboardist. You said it better, though.
That "fire" CD they put out in the mid 90's was it for me. It was horrible, and lent great strength to Rollie's "he's a crooner" statement.
Fleischman did a successfull album with Vinnie Vincent, and Vinnie wanted to resume to work with Robert, but Robert refused the contract that Vinnies producer gave him. And Robert had a success as a composer) he wrote the main track to Spange Bob, as I know :)
The label was right. Guy's got pipes, but this version sounds like a "look at how I can wail" song, rather than the musical masterpiece that Perry made it. When Fleischman sings it now, he sings the album version and not this one. Even he knows.
Fleischman was also difficult to work with according to Herbie. He basically had lead singers disease and they hadn't even gotten started yet and he just wasn't going to deal with him and his manager. And as Herbie stated, Steve was very quite at that point and basically was on the verge of leaving music. True the band wanted Robert but Herbie made the right call and as you said, after Steve started writing with Neal, we got the classic Journey lineup. As for Rolie I think they got along fine until Steve himself started becoming difficult of which Herbie has fully acknowledged. Afterall Herbie would be shown the door by Steve eventually. By the point Rolie bailed he had nearly two decades in music under his belt and needed a break. As for life after Journey for Gregg he appears to have been more than happy to slowdown. He had a few projects like the Storm but I think he was happy with the quiet life and heading up Ringo's All Star Band and Abraxas. I do think Gregg would have, and wanted to take up the offer to join back up with Journey that Neal wanted for the Anniversary tour but that was all nixed by Jon Cain. In fact if Cain had his way, Gregg would not have been at the RnR HOF induction. I have no use for Cain.
Robert wrote this so i have to give him credit great song.
Ross Valory's wife wrote the poem where the song originated from.
Steve's rall in the middle and his perfect ad libs, really made this song special. Steve made it his song.
please keep in mind that this is a demo...
producers usually work with the band/singer to smooth out parts that may be objectionable. For musicians, it is always easier to embellish on a song than it is to come with the original part. I think the final version is very close to this and Steve did a fabulous job on the finished product.
Yes, this vocal is likely the way Fleischman would sing it in a live concert setting, not as a polished studio radio-ready track. The producers would have requested him to tone down the extras and stick mostly to the melody for the album's track, which is what Steve Perry did. Fleischman can embellish all he wants in a live stage setting.
I'd also point out that this may be one of the very first times the band has put this track together in this cohesive of a way. It's possible that Fleischman had only sung this song a handful of times at the time of this recording... meaning, he didn't yet have a handle on it.
so well said!!
Listening to it over and over again I’m liking it more and more .When this was probably recorded this was the style of the time no matter how good Steve sings it remember this guy put down the foundation of this song and gave it its sound and flavor of what we hear today what a raw version thanks
Absolutely. It's sad that this VERY capable singer missed out on all the Fame and Glory of Journey.
geez, ive been a journey fan since the 70s. I didn't know about this guy. not a bad singer at all! but damn, steves vocals are untouchable on this song! especially on the Captured album, wow! sure wish greg rollie and steve would rejoin the band again....
JJ Mach oh my gosh yes
It's too late. Too late. Too late to make the change.
Steve Perry's voice with Sam Cooke's style of singing is what made this song a hit once Steve Perry got ahold of it. The rest is history.
Wow...obviously, Steve Perry is a vocal god (arguably, the greatest rock singer who ever lived) but, man, Robert Fleischman has a range beyond belief! Incredible!
and that's always was his problem...extremely shrill! proved unbearable in VVI
Steve Perry is. Agreed.
@@AllanJonesband So in other words he didnt know when to hold back.
@@AllanJonesband He was also a dick...from my personal experience with him and shortly after that and other instances he was let go and Steve was brought in to front the band.
@@AllanJonesband .. To each their own. He was perfect in VVI. Slaughter tried to replicate him and totally sucked. Had he sung it like Perry did, it would have sounded just fine, because he has an incredible range. I agree he sounded shrill, but it was an early demo
His voice is pretty good, but I've still not heard a single voice in my entire life that is better than Steve Perry's... Just my opinion, but there it is lol.
Geoff Tate is much better. Very much better. The greatest.
@@user-hj8lp8cp6j Meh... I appreciate your opinion, but I do disagree lol
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never would've been a hit like this.
Yet Robert co wrote this
@@phillipmarlowe0525he wrote 90% of that song
Robert Fleischman is an outstanding vocalist but Steve Perry was able to find the song's melody much better.
Fleishman escribió la canción y es el creador de la melodía
they were lucky to dump this guy
steve made the song IMO.
Apparently, he was a real diva. They brought Steve on tour using the ruse that he was one of the roadies' Portuguese cousin. During a sound check, when diva Robert stopped off, Herbie gave Steve the nod. Steve sang a song and everyone in the venue stopped to listen, giving him.a standing ovation when it was over. Herbie told Robert his services were no longer required and Steve took over as the frintman.
Thank Herbie
@@marshabailey772 ... Uhhh it was Perry who turned out to be the control freak diva and destroyed Journey
Your right Robert’s pitch is way off . Sounds like he’s screaming.
This is Robert Plant verses Sam Cook. Both great singers, just different styles/influences/approaches. I too prefer the Sam Cook/Steve Perry approach but imagine Perry in Led Zeppelin. Lol
That's a pretty good analogy of the different styles.
@@dave30076 Thanks! ✌🏻
It doesn’t even sound like same song. His squeals are just too much. Sounds like he’s faking the high notes. Great song. But Steve took it to the stratosphere!!
Its really good...but Steve Perry is a vocal unicorn. As awesome as this is, there's no touching Steve Perry. Fleishman is a Damn good singer, and I'm glad he made it big and isn't only remembered as the guy before Steve Perry.
Just curious, when did Mr Fleischman make it big ?
Dwayne Cole : He sang lead on the debut album by the Vinnie Vincent Invasion in the late 80s. GREAT album if you like hair metal. But before the videos were filmed or they went on tour, he was fired and replaced by Mark Slaughter.
@ChuggityMuggs1 I’m sure they did a little bit, but they don’t need to. Perry was incredible on live versions of this song. And everything else, really.
@@JoelTheGreatAndHumble From what I remember Mark Slaughter saying in an interview, Fleischman didn't want to tour with Vinnie and he left. So Vinnie, begrudgingly,used Mark ("Vinnie said, 'alright, we'll use the kid'" - Mark Slaughter.)
yeah, well, HE wrote this song, hello? sounds amazing. wow
robert is a great singer and writer...LOVE HIM WITH VINNIE.
He was incredible in VVI!!
To all the haters, this is really good.
No. He is not Steve Perry, but if you heard this in a Journey concert prior to Perry, you'd like it.
Just admit it. And get over it.
Fleishman didn't lose anything: if he stayed with Journey, Journey's next album (Infinity) would have been a modest hit or a flop.
Fleishcman was a bombastic singer. Hey, this is just a demo. Take it easy.
It was a floppy demo
I think Fleischman give it all his best shot.. but it won't register really as agoodsong
It’s fun to hear the evolution of this band
With the departure of Robert Fleischman.
Would love to have heard Rollie sing this
Chris Choir NO NO NO!!!!!
No Chris Fleischman is terrible enough.😂😂😂
@@slamecatzwell5544 Robert
Wow. This guy is also an amazing vocalist. So soulful and powerful. Love the high notes he hits. Was curious to hear the singer prior to Perry. Both so great.
I like Robert's voice more, but I prefer the way that Steve sings it.
Sounds like any other 70s band with this dude, not impressed with his vocals. Steve Perry was phenomenal when he sang this song.
Great job by Robert and btw he cowrote this one
I think.he also had a hand in Winds of March
Doesn't quite have the same feel as when Steve sings it
Very cool to listen to this. I’m a huge Journey fan and have loved all of their lead vocalists (Steve Perry in particular) but I’m not feeling it on this one. He’s got great range, but he’s all over the place.
I am glad that Robert received a credit for this song. Since Diane Valory (Sister of Journey bassest Ross Valory) wrote the lyrics in a poem called "Wheel in my mind", Robert Fleischman was the one who created the vocal melody Perry used: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_in_the_Sky
I believe Diane Valory was Ross Valorys wife not sister. 😊
Sometimes we try to sound so smart, that the opposite comes out
Fleischman had some great pipes. Fantastic singer.
All the haterz... don't forget Robert Fleischman WROTE this song. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_in_the_Sky
Bob dylan wrote songs too , couldn't sing worth a crap, but he wrote songs
Thank God for Steve perry
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His version s so rocky ! so hard and edged ! .. Steve's version s rocking storyteller smooth but etched to one's heart and memory
It’s a demo. So yeah, there’s that
Not a bad version considering he wrote it but it would not have done well on the radio too much screaming
Not anywhere nearly as good as Steve Perry. Robert is a good singer, but Steve is the GOAT.
Sounds like Robert Plant and Nancy Wilson.
ROBERT FLEISCHMAN wrote this song!
He was let go from Journey and Steve Perry got to record it!
Actually, if you look at the song credits on the Infinity album the song was written by Robert Fleishman, Stephen Ray Perry, Gregg Rollie, Matthew A. Schon, and Neal J. Schon. Listed in that order on the album. Robert Fleishman wasn't the only one who wrote the song.
@@monchorga I played with Robert in the mid-70s in a touring club band. He brought the basics of the song to rehearsal way back then. He was an exceptional vocalist. His Robert Plant covers were untouchable. That said, his personality was...difficult.
@@monchorgaPara agregar créditos cambian una palabra o línea y se hacen "participes de la composición", pero eso no quiere decir que realmente lo sean.
Thank God that Herbie Herbert fired him and hired Steve Perry! If not, I would have never been a Journey fan!
@ Richard Wolman
I agree. Me either.
The record label was about to drop them before they got Steve Perry they probably would have been dropped with Robert Fleischman he has a good voice but was not good enough to keep the band going Steve Perry saved Journey
Cindy Fedack Yep Your Absolutely Right About That.
Yep you're absolutely right about that.
Thats fucked he was a good vocalist
I like this Demo. Fleischman!!
With Fleishman on vocals in this song is like i ear Kansas! Good job
So glad I’m not the only one who thought this. For a split second I was starting to wonder lol.
Kansas loved Journey. That's why they ripped off the Journey song "I'm Gonna Leave You".
I don't think theres anything wrong with this demo, hes got a very good voice, it just needed that punch that perry is known for, I think people get thrown off because were so used to the final perry version, but really not bad.
Absolutely love Robert with Vinnie but this is merely a demo of what might have been had the gods not handed Journey Steve Perry. Nobody even Steve himself can top the Infinity version.
Fleischman had a horrible stage presence........glad things turned out the way they did.
Steve was the man for this tune. His vocals cut through the noise and soar literally uplifting the message of the song. Interesting bit of history
Neil Schon is a rare talent.
Wow, this guy has pipes. What a great singer. I mean he does not have perry's soul and lets be real, steve Perry is probably a top 5 rock vocalist of all time.
Fleischman just yelled out words, Perry put the emotion into it.
Agreed with someone else who said that Fleischman was a "metal" singer, that's more his speed.
Dude had some bad ass rock n roll pipes. Would be awesome at metal
And he was.
You're referring to his work on the first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album
Ummmm… yeah, look up vinnie vincent invasion - (first album has Fleishman after that was mark slaughter). He was amazeballs at metal singing. Put some headphones on and prepare to be absolutely devastated by the gods of metal.
Like the others have mentioned, he killed it on Vinnie Vincent Invasion. I wish we had more than that one album of him
He did more demos with Vinnie after Mark Slaughter formed Slaughter
Let's be fair: it's very likely that every commenter has heard the Infinity version of this song and is comparing this performance to the Infinity version.
I'll take this version any day...
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I may be the only one out here that digs this version best. Yes, the Steve Perry version is impeccable. No doubt. But I have this thing for the original version of songs. Ironically, i probably wouldn't appreciate this version as much without the other. It's a strange feedback loop.
I understand you. I am like that. I think I like Steve Perry better but this is refreshing to hear an original. Something different but yet the same and good. Sometimes live stuff, local cover bands or utube covers or remakes can by original are like that sometimes.
@@jasonkreuzer589 exactly.
@@StephenS-2024 I like hearing Peter Frampton not live 🤣
@@jasonkreuzer589 hahaha. Agreed!
Every live shot of him in this slideshow looks like a young Jerry Lewis doing his "Hey Lady" Schtick.
Yes Steve Perry recorded it bc it was the bands song journey that is
Hope the guy got some royalties
His vocal style is slightly more metallic than Steve Perry. Seems like they might have gone in more of a heavy metal direction instead of AOR with Fleischmann. Perhaps Neal would have enjoyed that more, and perhaps Aynsley would have stayed on drums instead of joining Whitesnake if Journey had gone metal?
Metal? This demo sounds like pure disco inferno. Listen to that drum track. LOL.
Ansley joined Jefferson Starship immediately after being sacked from Journey. He’s on their hit Jane.
Patricia LAMBERT Dunbar got sacked because he had a problem messing around with very young groupies and was telling people that Journey was HIS band.
Steve Perry is my guy.🌹
Wow I love the bluesy way Robert did this. Steve was great too, but Robert is a bluesier singer.
Fuck yeah his voice is fantastic
LOL....I never liked this guys vocals...Steve brought the soul, this is not blues he's screeching like he did in Vinnie Vincent Invasion. Annoying! trying to be Robert Pant and failing epically. If the label and management wanted them to go in a more commercial direction and have hits then Steve Perry has proven to be the magic they needed. They would have failed with this guy. He has no Soul...Just screeches.
And then this poor S.O.B. ended up getting stuck with headcase Vinnie Vincent. 😂
Así y todo es mucho más que tú, una pobre basura DON NADIE 😂
It’s not bad just different kind of sounds a little like Dio. Wouldn’t mind a better quality sound on this.
It sounds like Robert Plant in Zeppelin. Who will say, that Zeppelin was a bad band? Robert is great. And he still can sing, actually.
What more would you expect from a 70s demo??? They would hardly spend that much time mixing and mastering a demo-- polishing comes with additional time in studio with a well-rehearsed or phenomenal singer-- we know which one Perry is-- and some mastering to finish it.
Like Dio? I so want some of whatever you’re taking.
@@algallego I heard Perry sing this live and he does a beautiful job.This guy sounds like he's being attacked by bees.
@@MattSmithMe Check out Dio on Kerry Livgrens To live for the King.
wtaf, i looooove this, this is really raw and makes so much more sense after listening to the first 3 albums >
woah Robert had more of a boston feel with his version....sounds pretty damn cool.....steve definitely made it his own when he came in though.
If Dio sang with Journey lol. Fleischman is, in terms of pure technical ability, superior to Perry. Neal's guitar a throwback to Santana '71.
I want the alternate reality where Fleischman got the job and Rolie never left. Wowsers.
can you imagine if fleischman, schon, rolie, dunbar had continued? Would have been amazing!
I didn't feel this. Steve takes me there with him. Great voice for another type of song though.
A falsetto screamer as compared to Perry's silky version with little effort.
Steve perry was made for power ballads. So I guess journey was headed that way before steve perry?
Open Arms was the 1st power ballad. Courtesy of Jon Caine and Steve.
Robert kinda looks like Adam Sandler with a mullet.
Much better than Pineda's version
Aún así es su canción
Just going to say, that this is the exact same video that I posted over 5 years ago. I mean, I am glad that the demo is out there now, and I know the pictures are not mine, but maybe you could give me credit for putting the video together? That or maybe make your own video?
Musician 1020 I love fleishmans voice almost as much as Steve Perry but ur right Steve set it pver the top that said fleishmann is excellent vocalist
Stop whining
The chorus is ok ... but the verse ain't so great ... Steve really made it great!
Exactly.
Rob has a strong voice with an amazing range! Now I feel Journey were real reluctant to find a singer...Rolie was in Santana...so Rob comes in and goes way into metal turf...they reject him and next reluctant singer turns into Steve...those guys knew an odd hybrid like Steve...his style was more Sam Cooke less Deep Purple so master musicians made an compromise. The style was unique...closer to rock and true inspiration they were looking for.
Heard the guys say in a interview that the song was changed up for the better
no no no Steve perry is the best sorry.
Steve perry is 50 times the singer of this guy.
I'm wondering how he felt when he was fired. Was he expecting it to happen and he was ok with being fired, or was he taking it negatively?
Journey has a penchant for firing their leads out of nowhere
Fleischman wasn't with Journey long,
less than a year.
They did not make a lot of headway,
but then they never got to the point of releasing an album,
which would have surely contained the songs Robert wrote
which Steve Perry sang on Infinity.
Robert was hired because Columbia records,
concerned over the groups low album sales,
demanded they sing more
and hire a lead to stand in front.
He hit it off with the other band members,
but Herbie Herbert, Journey's very powerful manager,
was irked that Fleischman refused to leave his
own manager and get under Herbert's umbrella.
Furthermore, Robert was not Herbie's type of guy,
Herbert referring to Fleischman as a "poodle".
Robert has stated he wasn't really devastated
by the firing as he always felt better off musically and personally as a solo act in control of his own destiny.
He kept on good terms with his former Journey mates over the years, with them appearing on Robert's 1979 solo album,
and Robert is the occasional opening act for the Arnel Pineda
version of Journey.
Robert also lives near Steve Perry
and they are very good friends.
@@wheelinthesky300 The irony is that, as I understand it, eventually it was Steve Perry who insisted on firing Herbie Herbert. Should stuck with Robert, Herbie! Oops.
@@Jessica_Roth if they wanted the label to drop them...
Im sure Roberts accountant likes those nice Royalty checks he gets from the Infinity record.
oh hell no - this is a massacre
Great!
How much did you guys have to settle to use Wheel? Is it worth $250,000 for a concert standard in perpetuity? I thought the new arrangement was much better.
I saw Robert open up for Van Halen in 1979 at the Balch field house in Boulder of 1971. General admission, $8.00 ticket. Those were the days!
Sorry. April of 1979.
Too many mickey’s big mouths back then! Great for fifteen year olds!
Poor guy, replaced in 2 bands by singer's nobody can even touch. Long live Perry, and Slaughter
They didn't like this dude .. he can sang.....
better than i thought it would be
Robert wrote this tune ❤
Steve Perry
So much better with Perry. I'm sure they thought so too
Robert pretty good singer
I recorded this song off the radio onto a cassette and played it when ever I felt like hearing it. Was the first Journey song I ever heard and in turn became a huge fan of the band. 40+ years later I’m finding out Robert wrote the song...strange. It’s weird to think that 2 incredible singers assumed your job and sang your songs and even lip synced videos to your music, which in turn led to him getting the boot from Journey & VV. His stage presence was way strange...trying to slide his feet across the stage and a really weird dance move..just weird & embarrassing. Here’s a good interview with R.F. ruclips.net/video/xNyAk0D9aZ4/видео.html
Truth is journey manger knew Steve Perry is wat they needed he was excauty right
Well if you want to compare there is no comparison.
Have only listened to this one song by him. He's very weak and absolutely no 'soul' or feelings in his delivery. Journey would have folded if they stuck with him.
😳😳 yarp! Anybody can screech!
Não deu certo no journey por motivos óbvios ele se encaixa melhor no metal.
Not in the same league as Steve Perry.
Totally not in sync with the band
The addition of these 4 songs (especially with Steve Perry) ruins the sonic and stylistic identity of the album. For me Next is Journey's latest and best album. I never bought a Journey album again after that. Please don't ruin these albums with artificial collages. On the other hand I like the instrumental, but it has nothing to do there.