Don't take this the wrong way, but if this really was yours, it wasn't taken care of very well. You really need to do a better job. Musical instruments are delicate. If you take proper care, a good instrument can last a lifetime, otherwise it won't last at all. I've had the same conversation with my own kids who put some nasty dents in theirs as well because they were not handling them properly. Learn from the mistakes you've made and change your habits.
I owned a repair shop for years, and was right with you on each step. Interesting to see some new tools that make things a bit easier. It was always very rewarding to get a basket case like this one, and make an instrument out of it again. Good work!
Trombone was my first instrument starting when I was in 6th grade. I played that through junior high. In high school I played baritone and sousaphone. Many years later my church started an ensemble that played during worship time so back to the trombone. A couple of years into that I switched to euphonium. That instrument is now in the hands of a younger player who I hope gets as much joy from playing it as I did. I love the sound of low brass. I am amazed at how Wes can work the metal to realign parts and remove dents, etc. He is a real craftsman, a brass whisperer, and a joy to watch. The variety of specialty tools is interesting to see. Good job editing the videos too. That takes other skills.
HI dear Maestro Lee, wow what a great channel... Thank you for all your great tips and teachings.... I am the Instrument Inventory Manager of the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra in Canada... I start repairing WW instruments when Covid hit us to keep safe and encourage our students from the band ensemble of the Sistema Program ( an orchestral after school free program under the umbrella of NBYO who served up to know 1200 kids 5 days a week 3 hours per day) ... Your videos are so timely, right now the bass trombonist in our NBYO orchestra ( premium ensemble of the organization) just have the same problem... we send it to get fix but the problem is there again... now with this video I will be able to be more specific when talking with the technician about possible permanent fix and things to look for... Many thanks Maestro, well done and keep up the good generosity... Blessings Greg.
Wes Lee you are the Pied Piper of today just toot your horn and I’ll follow you =I just Love-Love-Love your shows thank u your the best just awesome Big Guy!
Truly fascinating work. Thank you for your continuing efforts to share your knowledge, expertise and experience with us. This video is 2 years old now, but the content is ageless.
What you do when smoothing out the dents is a bit of magic because a dent stretches the metal and you have the unenviable task of kinda compressing the metal back to its former state. That's well worth watching.....
If this video proves anything, it’s that the SD1 generals from Vic Firth really are the best all around drum sticks! For real, this was a great video, Mr. Wes!
The threaded mouthpipe rods from Ferree's are really fantastic. They work on leadpipes, goosenecks, valve tubing, tuning slides, bell stems, etc. Obviously they're not the perfect tool for everything, but they're very versatile for DIY jobs.
Today we are going to take this pile of crushed soda cans and apply a little love, skill and patience. When we are done you will see that it was actually a beautifully crafted trombone all along.
When I was in sixth grade band, I found a trombone stored dead in the instrument room. It was a Conn, brand new in the case. I asked about and was told somebody had "lubed" the slide with cold cream and it was unplayable, but I could give it a try. I found it was so thick that when I slid out with my right hand I had to pull back with my left! I spent a couple of days wiping down the slides until there was so little cream left that slide oil thinned it out and the slide worked normally. The instrument was beautiful: straight as an arrow and the surface was perfect: no wear spots, no tarnishing. I played it for a year and I was very proud of it. It's been almost 50 years. I wonder if it even exists and if it does, what kind of shape it's in. (Maybe it's best I don't ever find out...)
They may have used actual cold cream with lanolin in it. The lanolin makes it really thick. Not everyone passed on the message to use cold cream without lanolin. I heard the original Ponds was good.
Another great repair and structural modification. Beautiful work on the brace. A perfect example of "Making chicken soup out of chicken s#@t". Thanks Wes! Jackson is one very fortunate trombone player. Thanks goes out to Miss Kristi as well. You two are a great team.
Parabéns meu amigo por ser um grande profissional você tem uma oficina muito organizada com todas ferramentas necessárias. Sou músico e vejo o carinho seu por instrumentos.
Just found your channel - and of course...you had to have a video of a Conn Trombone...beautiful! Here's a sad, cringe-worthy story of mine that is no more... Many, many years ago, when my younger sisters were of an age where, they really did not know better...a fight occurred over who got to hold my trombone (while I was away, and it was in the care of my father - I was older, moved out, and serving on the high seas)...the slide to the trombone had been removed from the tongs in the struggle, which then led to the tongs being pulled at like a wishbone at Thanksgiving. My father tried to find anyone that may have been able to fix it, but was turned away. So, that trombone is sadly no more in any of our possession. Seeing your channel, I would be curious to hear your take on whether or not the slide tongs of a trombone could have been restored to a functional state, after being flexed so far apart. Thank you for all these amazing videos, and I will continue to watch! (oh, and I do have a trombone again, but not a Conn brand, sadly, and not the same age, with the beautiful bell art)
I played one of these all through high school except it was silver. Someone actually uploaded one of my bands videos from 1990. Can’t watch it right now. I’d give anything to own another one.
Never buy your trombone from IKEA unless you know this guy! LOL. Great content, Wes, I'm loving your videos. Thank you for putting this content out there!
Good show Wes. I enjoy your videos. Not a criticism, more an observation and question. The wedges you used to separate the parts early in the video are remarkably similar to one’s I have that I use on occasion to separate a drill chuck from an arbor. I always use two and put them in from opposite sides. This way they push straight, and not tilted. Am I just being over cautious? Perhaps so, because your method did do what you needed.
I’m going to try that. I do it the way I do because it is hard for me to hold and tap from both sides. I have always had success like this, but I am going to experiment with your suggestion. Thanks for following along.
@@wesleemusicrepair9820 Wes, I normally do not have trouble holding the setup to squeeze from both sides. The chuck and arbor are quite robust compared to the delicate stuff you work with. I usually use a small arbor press. It is fairly easy to hold the wedges on the arbor/chuck assembly and push the wedges together by pulling on the lever that activates the press. It often takes a pretty good squeeze though. Especially if I had warmed the chuck and chilled the arbor before assembly.
I have this same model in about as bad a shape. Trombones are notorious for breaking when bands do "HORNS UP". A $4-5,000 instrument just wasn't engineered to jerk it up and stress all of the joints.
Great content. Thanks for making these. Would it be possible to mount the camera on the instrument when you're fixing dents? Its one of my favorite parts of your vids but I have trouble focusing on the action when your sliding it around. "Dent cam"?
I have zero experience fixing instruments, but your work is fascinating! All 3 of my children play instruments and I am always confronted with the banged up ones you see at the thrift stores - is this instrument finished? I would wonder. Now I know the answer.
I saw your granite plate sitting on the bench. Did you use that to line up the slide? I'd like to see that done sometime, down the road. The bone looks great!
7:02 Please show this initial process zoomed up close some time! And explain the premise of your technique as to roughing it in. Are you bending, flexing, rolling, locating, pre stressing or what. Or "yes". -✌🏼
As a non-musician, help me understand the economics of this. For example, a brand new instrument of similar quality would cost: A decentt used: and the resale value of the repaired instrument.
Why not call yourself a band and orchestral wind instrument surgeon? 😆 And why do we not see a sousaphone in European orchestras? Or am I just missing them....
Thanks for fixing my trombone! It plays better than when I got it, and I'll definitely recommend you whenever a friend's instrument breaks.
Don't take this the wrong way, but if this really was yours, it wasn't taken care of very well. You really need to do a better job. Musical instruments are delicate. If you take proper care, a good instrument can last a lifetime, otherwise it won't last at all. I've had the same conversation with my own kids who put some nasty dents in theirs as well because they were not handling them properly. Learn from the mistakes you've made and change your habits.
@@chribm What if somebody else had handled it poorly?
Then the advice applies to that person. It’s just good advice on general
@@chribm prolly a school instrument or used. if it was a new trombone id understand but this looks like it seen some years
If this actually your trombone, how tf did your slide get like that? It made me so angry
Wes Lee is the definition of a craftsman. Wonderful to have the privilege to watch a master work.
I owned a repair shop for years, and was right with you on each step. Interesting to see some new tools that make things a bit easier. It was always very rewarding to get a basket case like this one, and make an instrument out of it again. Good work!
Trombone was my first instrument starting when I was in 6th grade. I played that through junior high. In high school I played baritone and sousaphone. Many years later my church started an ensemble that played during worship time so back to the trombone. A couple of years into that I switched to euphonium. That instrument is now in the hands of a younger player who I hope gets as much joy from playing it as I did. I love the sound of low brass. I am amazed at how Wes can work the metal to realign parts and remove dents, etc. He is a real craftsman, a brass whisperer, and a joy to watch. The variety of specialty tools is interesting to see. Good job editing the videos too. That takes other skills.
HI dear Maestro Lee, wow what a great channel... Thank you for all your great tips and teachings.... I am the Instrument Inventory Manager of the New Brunswick Youth Orchestra in Canada... I start repairing WW instruments when Covid hit us to keep safe and encourage our students from the band ensemble of the Sistema Program ( an orchestral after school free program under the umbrella of NBYO who served up to know 1200 kids 5 days a week 3 hours per day) ... Your videos are so timely, right now the bass trombonist in our NBYO orchestra ( premium ensemble of the organization) just have the same problem... we send it to get fix but the problem is there again... now with this video I will be able to be more specific when talking with the technician about possible permanent fix and things to look for... Many thanks Maestro, well done and keep up the good generosity... Blessings
Greg.
Mr. Lee, I watch your videos breathlessly. You're a wizard.
That is a remarkable use of a drum stick.
Wes Lee you are the Pied Piper of today just toot your horn and I’ll follow you =I just Love-Love-Love your shows thank u your the best just awesome Big Guy!
Truly fascinating work. Thank you for your continuing efforts to share your knowledge, expertise and experience with us. This video is 2 years old now, but the content is ageless.
What you do when smoothing out the dents is a bit of magic because a dent stretches the metal and you have the unenviable task of kinda compressing the metal back to its former state. That's well worth watching.....
As a banjoist, I think that's great!
Enjoy your videos, especially trombones. Always amazed, the number of tools you have.
Thanks for uploading your videos Wes. Enjoyable and informative to watch each time.
If this video proves anything, it’s that the SD1 generals from Vic Firth really are the best all around drum sticks!
For real, this was a great video, Mr. Wes!
The threaded mouthpipe rods from Ferree's are really fantastic. They work on leadpipes, goosenecks, valve tubing, tuning slides, bell stems, etc. Obviously they're not the perfect tool for everything, but they're very versatile for DIY jobs.
I am fascinated by watching you work! Absolutely AMAZING!
Today we are going to take this pile of crushed soda cans and apply a little love, skill and patience. When we are done you will see that it was actually a beautifully crafted trombone all along.
When I was in sixth grade band, I found a trombone stored dead in the instrument room. It was a Conn, brand new in the case. I asked about and was told somebody had "lubed" the slide with cold cream and it was unplayable, but I could give it a try. I found it was so thick that when I slid out with my right hand I had to pull back with my left! I spent a couple of days wiping down the slides until there was so little cream left that slide oil thinned it out and the slide worked normally.
The instrument was beautiful: straight as an arrow and the surface was perfect: no wear spots, no tarnishing. I played it for a year and I was very proud of it.
It's been almost 50 years. I wonder if it even exists and if it does, what kind of shape it's in.
(Maybe it's best I don't ever find out...)
They may have used actual cold cream with lanolin in it. The lanolin makes it really thick. Not everyone passed on the message to use cold cream without lanolin. I heard the original Ponds was good.
Love the drumstick knuckle repair! Will have to try that out if I ever get my hands on a beater valve section!
Another great repair and structural modification. Beautiful work on the brace. A perfect example of "Making chicken soup out of chicken s#@t". Thanks Wes! Jackson is one very fortunate trombone player. Thanks goes out to Miss Kristi as well. You two are a great team.
Talk about a mistreated instrument! You did an excellent job!
I enjoy watching your work. I like your Shopsmith machine. Quite a versatile machine.
Brilliant and fascinating to watch the repair work ...thanks !! NH ..(England)
Parabéns meu amigo por ser um grande profissional você tem uma oficina muito organizada com todas ferramentas necessárias. Sou músico e vejo o carinho seu por instrumentos.
Great job! Wow! Great to watch a master craftsman at work!
I love watching your videos and the procedures you talk through.
Watching on the large screen TV is better because you can see the subtle changes.
Thank you for these videos !
Love it! I need to learn how to repair my Bach B88!
Just found your channel - and of course...you had to have a video of a Conn Trombone...beautiful!
Here's a sad, cringe-worthy story of mine that is no more...
Many, many years ago, when my younger sisters were of an age where, they really did not know better...a fight occurred over who got to hold my trombone (while I was away, and it was in the care of my father - I was older, moved out, and serving on the high seas)...the slide to the trombone had been removed from the tongs in the struggle, which then led to the tongs being pulled at like a wishbone at Thanksgiving.
My father tried to find anyone that may have been able to fix it, but was turned away. So, that trombone is sadly no more in any of our possession.
Seeing your channel, I would be curious to hear your take on whether or not the slide tongs of a trombone could have been restored to a functional state, after being flexed so far apart.
Thank you for all these amazing videos, and I will continue to watch!
(oh, and I do have a trombone again, but not a Conn brand, sadly, and not the same age, with the beautiful bell art)
I just found your channel. You are amazing!
I played one of these all through high school except it was silver. Someone actually uploaded one of my bands videos from 1990. Can’t watch it right now. I’d give anything to own another one.
Great job! If that was my 88H, I'd be crying...
Brother, great as always. Learning a lot!
Thanks JB, me too! I’ve only had one lesson and I’m still having it!
Very interesting videos. I own a Conn 88H trombone from 1969. I wondered what model that was.
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for following along!
Hey, my first on camera and almost all film for a video. 3 weeks in as apprentice.
Sou seu fã. Lindo trabalho e excelente técnica..
You're the man.
Brilliant work!!!!!
Great work wes. 👍
Never buy your trombone from IKEA unless you know this guy! LOL. Great content, Wes, I'm loving your videos. Thank you for putting this content out there!
Thanks for following along!
Thank you sir!
Excellent job 🤩🤩🤩👌
Love it, you are the best. Where is your repair workshop?
Eres un maquina Wes Lee. El puto amo. Arreglam a mi la vara perfavor .
wao wao..congratulation, nice job hard but you god it....good...fast and good job
You're an excellent tech!
Wow man. I learn something every time. Awesome as per usual.
Good show Wes. I enjoy your videos. Not a criticism, more an observation and question. The wedges you used to separate the parts early in the video are remarkably similar to one’s I have that I use on occasion to separate a drill chuck from an arbor. I always use two and put them in from opposite sides. This way they push straight, and not tilted. Am I just being over cautious? Perhaps so, because your method did do what you needed.
I’m going to try that.
I do it the way I do because it is hard for me to hold and tap from both sides. I have always had success like this, but I am going to experiment with your suggestion. Thanks for following along.
@@wesleemusicrepair9820 Wes, I normally do not have trouble holding the setup to squeeze from both sides. The chuck and arbor are quite robust compared to the delicate stuff you work with. I usually use a small arbor press. It is fairly easy to hold the wedges on the arbor/chuck assembly and push the wedges together by pulling on the lever that activates the press. It often takes a pretty good squeeze though. Especially if I had warmed the chuck and chilled the arbor before assembly.
Thank you!!!!!
I have this same model in about as bad a shape. Trombones are notorious for breaking when bands do "HORNS UP". A $4-5,000 instrument just wasn't engineered to jerk it up and stress all of the joints.
Conn 88h or 100h? Tenor trombone. Well it’s hot and humid here also in southern Canada 🥵 thank goodness for air conditioning in the shop.👍🏻👍🏻
It's an 88h
88h.
Glad you are staying cool while laying pipe! It was a balmy triple digit here today.
Tu est un maître 👍💪👋🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
Great content. Thanks for making these. Would it be possible to mount the camera on the instrument when you're fixing dents? Its one of my favorite parts of your vids but I have trouble focusing on the action when your sliding it around. "Dent cam"?
The dent cam!! Love it!
I have zero experience fixing instruments, but your work is fascinating! All 3 of my children play instruments and I am always confronted with the banged up ones you see at the thrift stores - is this instrument finished? I would wonder. Now I know the answer.
Merry CHRISTmas Wess
Sou de Dourado SP. Brasil.
When you had the whole thing disassembled I thought that it was straight from Ikea.
Kit form!
🤘
Hi Wes. Why You soldered this slide in vertical position? Best regards. Michał
Show!
I saw your granite plate sitting on the bench. Did you use that to line up the slide? I'd like to see that done sometime, down the road. The bone looks great!
Yes, we will do a full slide build coming soon
Precise work like this is soo cool its why I like building guns. If you need an apprentice let me know 😆
Show
Can a Jupiter bell model 532 be coupled to a King 3b slide?
I wish there were some before and after pics at the end …
Seek and restore
Never thought I'd ask someone in brass repair, "What's your favorite drum stick to use?" 😹
7:02
Please show this initial process zoomed up close some time! And explain the premise of your technique as to roughing it in. Are you bending, flexing, rolling, locating, pre stressing or what. Or "yes".
-✌🏼
That dent ball driver looks kinky AF, LOL!!
What kind of grease do you use?
As a non-musician, help me understand the economics of this. For example, a brand new instrument of similar quality would cost: A decentt used: and the resale value of the repaired instrument.
12:25 That's a Vic Firth drum stick 😅
🙀🥳👍👏🏻
I want you to do my 10 m tonor saxophone
Who knew you could use a drumstick to fix a trombone?
The solder on the hand slide was not broken. It's like that so you can adjust it in case you need to repair something.
DONT SOLDER IT
🇧🇷🇧🇷
Was this a Conn88ho?
That's a seriously abused Conn 88HO
ここにくる修理の楽器はどうしてそんな所がへこんでいるのが というのが多いね 何ヵ所も 放置されていたんだね ひどい扱い方をされています 楽器に対しての いじめですよ‼️
.
Why not call yourself a band and orchestral wind instrument surgeon?
😆
And why do we not see a sousaphone in European orchestras? Or am I just missing them....