I know people say stuff like "the best school play of Dune ever" to mock this show, but i think if you watch it as a piece of theatre it actually works really well. Scenes like this would be perfect on the stage, and i actually find the presentation of this mini-series really interesting as like a Shakespearean take on Dune.
People forget how things were in 2000. Yeah there was Farscape but there was also stuff like Cleopatra 2525. This was pretty solid for the time period.
This type of scene is what the Lynch film lacked. No incoming danger, no outlandish imagery. Just two characters having a moment, while discussing something interesting about the planet.
I guess no one on the crew noticed that her contact lense was sliding out of place there for one shot. If they ever do another version of this - and why wouldn't they - I hope they get the eyes right finally. They're supposed to be a solid blue, with no whites, pupils, or irises. The more addicted to spice you are, the darker the blue. The Fremen and Arrakeen natives were said to have eyes of midnight blue, so that's pretty dark.
Totally agree, they just need the right director and crew to pull it off. There is so much story and detail in Dune, if they want to get it right, they might as well make it a series...
Contact lenses are always going to slide out of alignment. There’s really nothing that can be done about it. The only way it won’t look that way is for it to be done digitally.
So the spice is fermented baby worm shit. Yeah, those of us who read the books and paid attention already know that. And we also know that Paul and Chani are losing their water to the air by not being in stillsuits.
@@SuperNovaJinckUFO It's not a matter of fair (bless your head, honey!) It's about casting the characters in a way that makes sense. Paul is repeatedly described as having striking appearance, including a full head of dark black hair. What's that smell coming off that casting couch?
Like, I would imagine, the majority of Dune fans who have seen Dune visualized on the screen, the 1980s film is very poorly written, designed and and acted, I for one can't stand it. The 2000 critically and commercially acclaimed miniseries and it's equally critically acclaimed sequel - Children of Dune. are far the superior in all areas. If you like Dune you should watch them.
I prefer the movie, even If it cut most of the military and political parts of the book. Beter actors , writing and more emphasis on the spiritual part of the books. I hope someday, someone manages a decent full adaptation of Frank Herberts books ( lets just forget the prequels please).
The series had its good scenes but most of them feel flat an were tedious. I think they overdid the religious references it sounded more like someone was pounding a Bible on my head. The special effects do look dated and also were really done badly except for certain ones with the worms. We definitely need an updated version of the Dune franchise.
@@raymondstpaul4913 lol no, you've never read the bible. Speaking of badly written... buddy, you gotta learn to proofread your comments before hitting reply.
Dune is really a stupid story. A couple of points: 1) The Spice is the most important substance in the Universe. Why does the empire allow it to be controlled by the Fremen and a few waring houses? Why doesn't the emperor take direct control of the planet? 2) The Fremen are collecting water from the air. How does that work? There isn't any humidity.
Both of your points are covered in the story. 1. The Empire rests on a balance of power between a host of different factions, primarily the Landsraad, the Padishah Emperor, the Bene Gesserit, and the Spacing Guild. All are dependent upon and suspicious of the others' powers. If one faction gained total control of Arrakis and spice production, then the balance would collapse and conflict would be inevitable. As for the fremen, they don't try to control spice production. They only launch small raids against harvesters time to time. This is deliberate Fremen policy. They want to hide their true strength until the Mahdi comes to them. 2. Arrakis actually has a good deal of water, but it is trapped below the surface and inside the sandworms/sandtrout. When there is a spice blow, water is released. As a result, there is humidity, but it comparable to the Atacama desert.
Merrick Wilson There can not be a conflict unless the spacer guild allows it. They would not allow a war over spice production. Yes there is some water, but it is clear that the humidity is essentially zero. You could not extract water from the air. If Herbert has described it as deep wells instead of extraction from sir, it would make sense, but it doesn’t. Herbert made people act in was that human beings wouldn’t in order to drive the plot. He was a poor writer.
And the spacing guild would allow the war. It's a major plot point that they provide logistics support for the Harkonnen/Imperial attack. They don't do this out of plot convenience; they have good reasons to allow war. If the Emperor or any one House of the Landsraad had absolute control over spice production, then the guild, who above all other factions depends on the spice, would be completely at their mercy. This is exactly what happens after Paul takes control of Arrakis. As for the water issue, maybe you are right, and I don't know enough about hydrology to argue. However, nearly all works science fiction contain some scientific inaccuracies and impossibilities, but that doesn't make them inherently bad or stupid. I wouldn't say the Empire Strikes Back is a bad movie just because Hoth could never support life, nor would I say Gene Roddenberry is a bad screenwriter due to the inconsistencies in his depiction of warp travel. I'm not Herbert's biggest fan, but I don't think he's as bad as you're making him out to be.
I know people say stuff like "the best school play of Dune ever" to mock this show, but i think if you watch it as a piece of theatre it actually works really well. Scenes like this would be perfect on the stage, and i actually find the presentation of this mini-series really interesting as like a Shakespearean take on Dune.
People forget how things were in 2000. Yeah there was Farscape but there was also stuff like Cleopatra 2525. This was pretty solid for the time period.
This type of scene is what the Lynch film lacked. No incoming danger, no outlandish imagery. Just two characters having a moment, while discussing something interesting about the planet.
If you try and watch this like it's a play it helps. A lot..
I guess no one on the crew noticed that her contact lense was sliding out of place there for one shot. If they ever do another version of this - and why wouldn't they - I hope they get the eyes right finally. They're supposed to be a solid blue, with no whites, pupils, or irises. The more addicted to spice you are, the darker the blue. The Fremen and Arrakeen natives were said to have eyes of midnight blue, so that's pretty dark.
That would look too weird for most audiences to watch.
Totally agree, they just need the right director and crew to pull it off. There is so much story and detail in Dune, if they want to get it right, they might as well make it a series...
That works for a book, but would look terrible on screen.
"If they ever do another version of this - and why wouldn't they - I hope they get the eyes right finally"
As of 2020 this has aged remarkably well
Contact lenses are always going to slide out of alignment. There’s really nothing that can be done about it. The only way it won’t look that way is for it to be done digitally.
This is actually a very cool scene!
IdeasOfIceAndFire love your work!
You are actually a very cool dude!
so the worms carry the trout in them? I was a little confused on how the cycle worked? Can the trout multiply on their own?
@@Jimmy27427 i second this question
Knew I'd find you somewhere in here man!
Who are these city fremen? Out in the desert without their stilsuit and mask on.
lol yeah I remember watching this miniseries on Sci Fi and it was hard not to notice they sorta gave up on the stillsuits after a hot minute
Water soft, folk of pan, graben and sink..or off world-renowned spawn..unused to the ways of the desert. They won't last long.
Kwisatz Haderach with 'dimmer switch' fitted.
I guess Paul showed her the REAL shi'alud 😏
"HEYOOOOOO!!!" - Ed McMahon
So the spice is fermented baby worm shit. Yeah, those of us who read the books and paid attention already know that. And we also know that Paul and Chani are losing their water to the air by not being in stillsuits.
I never pictured young Paul with a receding hairline. Wtf? I'm glad I missed this before.
To be fair, I had a hairline like that at the age of 16 XD
@@SuperNovaJinckUFO It's not a matter of fair (bless your head, honey!) It's about casting the characters in a way that makes sense. Paul is repeatedly described as having striking appearance, including a full head of dark black hair. What's that smell coming off that casting couch?
His hairline hasn't changed since this movie.
16 Calladan years is 38 earth years
My boy bout to slide right into that.
That smile at 1:45.
Paul Muad'Dib
So the spice is made by larval stage worms who than shoot it out of them and up to the surface. I thought the worms in whole still give spice.
Does anyone see the comedy that the most powerful people in the universe are dependent on eating worm shit?
I thought she always called him Usul? Yes? No?
Usul was his private name
Not his private part?
no
@@germanicelt Though it does mean "The strength of the Pillar", so...
@@blackoutninja Hahaha (i forgot i even left this comment.)
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Never saw this show. We never got it here. I've only seen the 1984 movie.
Like, I would imagine, the majority of Dune fans who have seen Dune visualized on the screen, the 1980s film is very poorly written, designed and and acted, I for one can't stand it. The 2000 critically and commercially acclaimed miniseries and it's equally critically acclaimed sequel - Children of Dune. are far the superior in all areas. If you like Dune you should watch them.
I prefer the movie, even If it cut most of the military and political parts of the book. Beter actors , writing and more emphasis on the spiritual part of the books. I hope someday, someone manages a decent full adaptation of Frank Herberts books ( lets just forget the prequels please).
In Denis Villeneuve we trust!
@@anag1852 I guess you will get your wish end of the year.
@@joedanns5678 unless you like good camera work, good costumery, good adaptation from the original.
The series had its good scenes but most of them feel flat an were tedious. I think they overdid the religious references it sounded more like someone was pounding a Bible on my head. The special effects do look dated and also were really done badly except for certain ones with the worms. We definitely need an updated version of the Dune franchise.
How odd it seems that the year 2000 in some ways looks dated now.
Dude it was the 2000s context matters. Don't leave out the context.
lol you've never read the bible.
@@mkultra2456 Tried to but all those riddles an slavery etc like reading a bad written scrip t
@@raymondstpaul4913 lol no, you've never read the bible. Speaking of badly written... buddy, you gotta learn to proofread your comments before hitting reply.
Dune is really a stupid story.
A couple of points:
1) The Spice is the most important substance in the Universe. Why does the empire allow it to be controlled by the Fremen and a few waring houses? Why doesn't the emperor take direct control of the planet?
2) The Fremen are collecting water from the air. How does that work? There isn't any humidity.
I must admit the point #1 is really good...
Direct control as in actually personally staying on the Planet Arrakis?
Both of your points are covered in the story.
1. The Empire rests on a balance of power between a host of different factions, primarily the Landsraad, the Padishah Emperor, the Bene Gesserit, and the Spacing Guild. All are dependent upon and suspicious of the others' powers. If one faction gained total control of Arrakis and spice production, then the balance would collapse and conflict would be inevitable. As for the fremen, they don't try to control spice production. They only launch small raids against harvesters time to time. This is deliberate Fremen policy. They want to hide their true strength until the Mahdi comes to them.
2. Arrakis actually has a good deal of water, but it is trapped below the surface and inside the sandworms/sandtrout. When there is a spice blow, water is released. As a result, there is humidity, but it comparable to the Atacama desert.
Merrick Wilson
There can not be a conflict unless the spacer guild allows it. They would not allow a war over spice production.
Yes there is some water, but it is clear that the humidity is essentially zero. You could not extract water from the air.
If Herbert has described it as deep wells instead of extraction from sir, it would make sense, but it doesn’t.
Herbert made people act in was that human beings wouldn’t in order to drive the plot. He was a poor writer.
And the spacing guild would allow the war. It's a major plot point that they provide logistics support for the Harkonnen/Imperial attack. They don't do this out of plot convenience; they have good reasons to allow war. If the Emperor or any one House of the Landsraad had absolute control over spice production, then the guild, who above all other factions depends on the spice, would be completely at their mercy. This is exactly what happens after Paul takes control of Arrakis.
As for the water issue, maybe you are right, and I don't know enough about hydrology to argue. However, nearly all works science fiction contain some scientific inaccuracies and impossibilities, but that doesn't make them inherently bad or stupid. I wouldn't say the Empire Strikes Back is a bad movie just because Hoth could never support life, nor would I say Gene Roddenberry is a bad screenwriter due to the inconsistencies in his depiction of warp travel. I'm not Herbert's biggest fan, but I don't think he's as bad as you're making him out to be.
This is type of scene on villenueve films lacked. He really don't understand the books.