I only have one complaint. THERE’S NOT ENOUGH EPISODES! Please, make more! One of my favorite things to watch on any platform. Thank you for the amazing work you do.
What this series has taught me: if you make art, annotate your work. Comment on every sketch, every crappy practice session, every experiment, at every stage of your development. It would piss my ghost off to no end if I achieved some measure of success and someone came along after my death and said of one of my studies or experiments, “nah, that’s not hers.”
I'm with many of you fans of this series: watching one time is not enough.There is always something new and fascinating to be gotten from these episodes, and the production values are marvelously high--definitely appropriate to the quality of the works. Philip and Fiona are just great as the explicators. Thank you for such a fine series.
This series is so hugely compelling! I cannot see it in one go, but rather dedicate to each segment my full attention. I learn so much every time, the first one of "The seven suspects" was such a who-done-it! Like a good Agatha Christie novel. Love, love, love this series.
As an artist who practices fine art, I understand the artist changing the position of John’s head. We often pause, put the work up and look at a distance to see if we’re pleased with the aesthetics. The Renaissance artists are my personal inspiration. This is all beautiful work.
I love Fiona and Philip teamwork! Of course the rest involved to make this program possible. If you are passionate about Art it is an essential watch. You learn always a great deal. Thank you!
So supposedly then, the Sisley “forgery” was done using the same materials, underpainting and subject matter that is concurrent with genuine Sisley works and was completed sometime within the 30 years after his death making sure not to use any “modern” paints…..that the panel somehow cracked and was cradled in that same period of 30 years time and all of this “forgery” effort was meant to portray a work by an artist who was not yet so well known by the time it was authenticated in Germany? I find it more likely that the Sisley committee just didn’t want to admit they were wrong the first time because they had not completed the forensic research and were looking at an uncleaned painting presented by eager Americans (Mon Dieu!) The secretiveness of the “committee” reeks of snobbery and self-protection. You are correct, this painting is a reflection of the dark side of the art world and I’m NOT speaking about forgeries.
As an oil painter myself, I agree that the #4 Sisley painting was probably a forgery. I questioned the differences in the skies on the two same scene paintings.
I live in the US and I am constantly waiting for the newest episode to watch. I love the way Fiona and Philip collaborate to investigate the intricacies of the vast and intriguing world of art. I was inspired to travel and visit the National Gallery in London and I am hooked!
Sisley ~ The committee knows it's authentic they just don't want egg on their faces. The arrogance of the art world is staggering and seems quite dictatorial.
Yes you are correct i learned 40 yrs ago, most art experts wont admit its real unless they own. Had a valuble oainting when i was 20. Expert wouldn't authenicate it. But also wanted to buy it before I left. Not all are shady, but to this with another valueable painting got the runaround from the art world,I contacted this show but no reply,
Story #2- Following up, the gallery that the couple used to sell the painting is complaining that the show devalued the artwork which they believe was solely by Nicholson. The show didn't devalue it. The experts did. Story #4- So what were their reasons for rejecting it again even though the evidence was so compelling? Again it sounds like saving face on the committee's part. And Philip, just because the committee says it wasn't doesn't mean you have to completely jump on the wagon.
Stylistically, the hands do demonstrate the collaboration between 2 artists and that makes sense given their friendship. And in this case, the same materials would have been used throughout so the scientific evidence is not conclusive.
the final verdict failed to elaborate why the decision was stayed. one cant help but consider the politics at play in these high art associations and if there was other reasons why they refused to change this ruling. perhaps someone has a "complete collection" and doesnt want a missing piece to be found, etc, etc. theres many reasons this could be the case. The lack of reason for their final decison makes me skeptical.
I think for the Sisley, the issue was that the painting shows no progress of time compared to the sketch. Impressionists enjoyed painting the same scenes over and over to express the change in the scene, affected by nature. However the two art pieces show an almost identical scene. And the fact that the lack of color one being the more detailed version makes little sense as well. Im not saying the committee was right, but the progress between the two art piece makes little sense when thinking in terms of impressionist ideology.
My community college did me we well working on my fine arts degree. Right after I seen the painting at beginning of video, I associated it with the adoration of the Lamb. I was already looking for secrets in the painting! It helped that I was a work study for the head of the art department and had to inventory all of the artwork at the college. I was blessed with the greatest jobs! Thank you so much Jesus! Jus' sayin'
Why would a couple who were friends with the artist and were collectors try to fake a painting. Why would you “ fake” this painting by painting in the corner of a small guest room ON THE WALL where it couldn’t be moved or easily seen?!?! And If we assume the owners were trying to do this all for gain why wait decades and decades and sell the house with it still in there? There is also no hint that they were the sort to lie. None of that makes sense. It can be proven that the artist stayed there , why all the second guessing?
The artistic styles of the host and his friend were so similar and contained some of the same motifs, yet the piece also has elements that the host used but his friend did not. I could definitely see this piece as a collaboration, with each artist adding new details over the course of a visit. My dad and his artist friends often do this sort of thing. I find it less believable that the attribution was muddled over the years. I can't see a widow NOT mentioning that her husband and his more famous friend both drew on her wall. That would be the highlight of the story if I told it.
Found a May 2024 update at British Art Fair, under "An unsolved mystery in Cornwall". Apparently attribution has been disputed once again by an anonymous Ben Nicholson Catalogue Raisonné committee to which none of the three experts featured on FOF belong. The work was about to go to auction at Penzance Lay's Auctioneers for £40-80,000 but was withdrawn pending further investigation.
i guess i just don't understand art at all -- Philip goes into pure rhapsody when describing the sketch but it has NO Value if found to be by someone other than Modogliani it????? We didn't pay the man while he was alive but whoever sells his stuff today is making the profit,,.... NOT THE ARTIST, whoever in the world sketched it! something's definitely upside down about that!
25:18 he calls the painting a “ super painting”. What is that? I don’t think he’s just saying it’s a great painting and a degree in Art History never mentioned “super” paintings?
The church lady, if given her way, would get rid of everything she didn't like. Forget the history importance of the item. 'No one looks at it, they won't miss it'...wow! Maybe with some history there would be more interest.
I only have one complaint. THERE’S NOT ENOUGH EPISODES! Please, make more! One of my favorite things to watch on any platform. Thank you for the amazing work you do.
Grabbed my blanket, my dog and leftover pizza. 4 hour marathon!
Grabbing my glass of wine
It makes you want to have amazing art. But you gotta love the 4 hour marathon
Blanket, cat, a box of chocolate & hot coffee on tap... and a 4-hour marathon.
I'm with you, Cheers from Canada ☕
This show is the best❤
You giving that dog a Dutch oven?
One of the Greatest series of All Time, absolutely Magically Magnificent.
What this series has taught me: if you make art, annotate your work. Comment on every sketch, every crappy practice session, every experiment, at every stage of your development. It would piss my ghost off to no end if I achieved some measure of success and someone came along after my death and said of one of my studies or experiments, “nah, that’s not hers.”
I'm with many of you fans of this series: watching one time is not enough.There is always something new and fascinating to be gotten from these episodes, and the production values are marvelously high--definitely appropriate to the quality of the works. Philip and Fiona are just great as the explicators. Thank you for such a fine series.
This series is so hugely compelling! I cannot see it in one go, but rather dedicate to each segment my full attention. I learn so much every time, the first one of "The seven suspects" was such a who-done-it! Like a good Agatha Christie novel. Love, love, love this series.
That verdict from the Sisley committee was insane
So glad I found this series. Absolutely fascinating and so enjoyable to watch such a well-documented and incredibly satisfying show.
The depth of some of those is mind blowing and seeing the difference is a blessing.
Thanks Fiona and Philip ✌️
YAY!! I absolutely love this series!! And Fiona & Philip are perfect hosts for it!
best show on the tube !! watched the whole thing in one sitting, thank you so much for this. love from Brussels,,xx.
As an artist who practices fine art, I understand the artist changing the position of John’s head. We often pause, put the work up and look at a distance to see if we’re pleased with the aesthetics. The Renaissance artists are my personal inspiration. This is all beautiful work.
Best series ever! Thanks so much for making more of these..
I absolutely adore this series!!
I love Fiona and Philip teamwork!
Of course the rest involved to make this program possible.
If you are passionate about Art it is an essential watch. You learn always a great deal. Thank you!
Babe wakeup... more art history just dropped!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
My people!
Thank you very much..
I watch your videos with great pleasure..💖
Love this show. Wish they still continued
They are still continuing. 4 new episodes out so far in 2024.
Where can i find it @@sirrathersplendid4825
So supposedly then, the Sisley “forgery” was done using the same materials, underpainting and subject matter that is concurrent with genuine Sisley works and was completed sometime within the 30 years after his death making sure not to use any “modern” paints…..that the panel somehow cracked and was cradled in that same period of 30 years time and all of this “forgery” effort was meant to portray a work by an artist who was not yet so well known by the time it was authenticated in Germany? I find it more likely that the Sisley committee just didn’t want to admit they were wrong the first time because they had not completed the forensic research and were looking at an uncleaned painting presented by eager Americans (Mon Dieu!) The secretiveness of the “committee” reeks of snobbery and self-protection. You are correct, this painting is a reflection of the dark side of the art world and I’m NOT speaking about forgeries.
The gold embellishments in the blue room are beautiful! They look like they are original. I am just bowled over with every new project. ❤
A got to see a massive show of the Flemish greats when I was in Köln years ago. It changed my life.
Fantastic & most interesting episode!
Love this show, thank you !
As an oil painter myself, I agree that the #4 Sisley painting was probably a forgery. I questioned the differences in the skies on the two same scene paintings.
The ultimate comfort program while I lie in bed with a high fever but swear I am freezing. Good grief I hate being sick.
just found this channel, its amazing!
Excellent! Love this stuff. I’m starting late, so saved in case I go 😴
I live in the US and I am constantly waiting for the newest episode to watch. I love the way Fiona and Philip collaborate to investigate the intricacies of the vast and intriguing world of art. I was inspired to travel and visit the National Gallery in London and I am hooked!
I’m obsessed with this series.
Bloody Good!!!
feels great to know we as americans finds it...whoop!
Just amazing
I wonder if the committee refused the Sisley because the didn’t want to be proven wrong?
Sisley ~ The committee knows it's authentic they just don't want egg on their faces. The arrogance of the art world is staggering and seems quite dictatorial.
Yes you are correct i learned 40 yrs ago, most art experts wont admit its real unless they own. Had a valuble oainting when i was 20. Expert wouldn't authenicate it. But also wanted to buy it before I left. Not all are shady, but to this with another valueable painting got the runaround from the art world,I contacted this show but no reply,
Story #2- Following up, the gallery that the couple used to sell the painting is complaining that the show devalued the artwork which they believe was solely by Nicholson. The show didn't devalue it. The experts did.
Story #4- So what were their reasons for rejecting it again even though the evidence was so compelling? Again it sounds like saving face on the committee's part. And Philip, just because the committee says it wasn't doesn't mean you have to completely jump on the wagon.
Stylistically, the hands do demonstrate the collaboration between 2 artists and that makes sense given their friendship. And in this case, the same materials would have been used throughout so the scientific evidence is not conclusive.
It's a wonderful, joyous work! Seems deranged that the art world values it based on its tie to a particular name rather than its inherent beauty.
CAPTIVATING!!
The SISLEY would have been authenticated if the owners were French or at least English. The evidence was overwhelming. Great job 👏!!!
I would have checked to see if the donator had a diary or book of expenditures to see if she alluded to the painting.
The central figure in the first painting, looks like Snoop.
the final verdict failed to elaborate why the decision was stayed.
one cant help but consider the politics at play in these high art associations and if there was other reasons why they refused to change this ruling.
perhaps someone has a "complete collection" and doesnt want a missing piece to be found, etc, etc. theres many reasons this could be the case. The lack of reason for their final decison makes me skeptical.
Was it not cleaned for the first evaluation?
I think for the Sisley, the issue was that the painting shows no progress of time compared to the sketch. Impressionists enjoyed painting the same scenes over and over to express the change in the scene, affected by nature. However the two art pieces show an almost identical scene. And the fact that the lack of color one being the more detailed version makes little sense as well.
Im not saying the committee was right, but the progress between the two art piece makes little sense when thinking in terms of impressionist ideology.
what was the age of the panel not painted by Sisley?
A * must be explained somewhere in the catalog.
My community college did me we well working on my fine arts degree. Right after I seen the painting at beginning of video, I associated it with the adoration of the Lamb. I was already looking for secrets in the painting! It helped that I was a work study for the head of the art department and had to inventory all of the artwork at the college. I was blessed with the greatest jobs! Thank you so much Jesus! Jus' sayin'
Why would a couple who were friends with the artist and were collectors try to fake a painting. Why would you “ fake” this painting by painting in the corner of a small guest room ON THE WALL where it couldn’t be moved or easily seen?!?!
And If we assume the owners were trying to do this all for gain why wait decades and decades and sell the house with it still in there?
There is also no hint that they were the sort to lie.
None of that makes sense. It can be proven that the artist stayed there , why all the second guessing?
The artistic styles of the host and his friend were so similar and contained some of the same motifs, yet the piece also has elements that the host used but his friend did not. I could definitely see this piece as a collaboration, with each artist adding new details over the course of a visit. My dad and his artist friends often do this sort of thing.
I find it less believable that the attribution was muddled over the years. I can't see a widow NOT mentioning that her husband and his more famous friend both drew on her wall. That would be the highlight of the story if I told it.
Michiel Coxie looks like Christopher Walken. Is it just me questioning the authority of a self-proclaimed authority?
anyone know if the Ben wall painting sold?
Found a May 2024 update at British Art Fair, under "An unsolved mystery in Cornwall". Apparently attribution has been disputed once again by an anonymous Ben Nicholson Catalogue Raisonné committee to which none of the three experts featured on FOF belong. The work was about to go to auction at Penzance Lay's Auctioneers for £40-80,000 but was withdrawn pending further investigation.
For the Modigliani sketch and the life receipts, it is quite feasible that spending a shilling is not considered important enough to document...
It’s a shame art has become infamous with money laundering for the rich .
if it doesn`t fit , you must acquit...
You don’t get it, Kevin. Luigi doesn’t care if it’s wrong by your standards. It’s right by his. What this CEO and others have done is murder.
i guess i just don't understand art at all -- Philip goes into pure rhapsody when describing the sketch but it has NO Value if found to be by someone other than Modogliani it????? We didn't pay the man while he was alive but whoever sells his stuff today is making the profit,,.... NOT THE ARTIST, whoever in the world sketched it! something's definitely upside down about that!
Humans are weird.
Art is the elite of the Emperors new clothings….
25:18 he calls the painting a “ super painting”. What is that? I don’t think he’s just saying it’s a great painting and a degree in Art History never mentioned “super” paintings?
It is the green that is the clue.
How so please?
Why is the church caretaker wearing a Jewish Star of David necklace?
Was the Free Masonic connection explored? I can see some obvious Masonic signs in it.
old shows:(
Amazing this fart world.
Looks like Snoop Dogg.
The church lady, if given her way, would get rid of everything she didn't like. Forget the history importance of the item. 'No one looks at it, they won't miss it'...wow! Maybe with some history there would be more interest.
It is from manniarism
I beg your pardon! 3 hours and 53 minuttes, NOT 4 hours!
Those old paintings are so very ugly .
😂
I reckon Fiona does absolutely nothing. Comes in and reads the script and that’s it. Overrated