Last time Wolves didn't win any of the opening 10 games was in 1983-1984. Coincidentally, that time Wolves also only had 3 points after 10 games. What followed then was three years of straight relegation, all the way to the Fourth Division. And an ownership change. Let's see if this club of a disgusting watch is set to repeat its darkest history.
Having Chinese owners doesn't help the situation.....you've only got to look at the record of other clubs coming under Chinese ownership,,,,Relegation and disaster !!!
@@AlwaysWolvesthere’s the key point Dave “have been the exception” not any more im afraid it’s only going one way Fosuns ten year plan was to have us in the champions league, competing with Man City and a 50000 seater stadium Now we are going to end up in the lower leagues again competing with Birmingham city and the stadium is worse now than when they bought us
Relegation is staring us in the face, some very good players yet they don't play as a team, its too many individuals and they will all be looking for a way out before the end of the season. Gary O'Neil is a championship manager at best, Fosun and Shi don't know how to run a football club, season ticket increases and now they can't sell out the stadium, corporate seating is being reduced every game, team shirts are always on special now, they will lose millions if we get relegated, no players, fewer supporters. They tried the Portuguese experiment with Mendes then after falling out with him we tried the South American route , desperate signings like Sasa who is permanently injured
He's not championship manager has he ever managed a season at that level no! So he's not even that! 🤔 he was a championship average players for Swansea or whoever he played for. Sent off in the play off final? Lol 😆 so his self discipline is amazing.
Hi Dave. Regardless of the result of the Southampton match, if GON is still there after the international break then we are relegated. To have any chance of survival he has to go NOW. Bournemouth knew exactly what they were doing....look at where they are now. There is no way he can turn this around and to put things off any longer will be terminal.
The irony as we languish at the bottom of the premiership a former Manager who gave us our best times takes his team to third place in the league……… Talk about Ying & Yang A team that has been so heavily invested in, to a point of points being deducted goes on to be as successful as they currently are by a manager that talk’s the talk and gets all to buy into it. We’re like a ship without a rudder…..the Marie Celeste springs to mind……totally frustrated….. we’re at a point where a change needs to happen…….
What that ship lol didn't sink or lose its rudders lol. Ha ha they had gas leak in the barrels below very toxic 🤣 and highly flammable explosive so guess what they jumped ship. Rudders were fine! Sounds like what most these headless chickens are gonna do when the season is over. Or worse start dealing before the window behind closed doors with their agents.
Every premier league team has good players and can play pretty football. We are not too good to go down, and the table doesn't lie. Problem is whoever eventually replaces GON won't save us. Everything looks like we are going down with one of the lowest points totals ever.
Stephen you are one very kind patient man, maybe a little naive as well. He is incompetent and of, ask Bournemouth fans - 92 goals against in 48 games! How loud do you want it shouted?
Best managers or head coaches work with what they have got. Others don't let the transfer window close before bringing adequate cover and reinforcements in. That's what's happened to Gary he wasn't backed or couldnt attract the right type of player. I believe the latter is the case. Players didn't wanna come here and play for him. Not the better options. Oh well. What's done is done.
Most of these players are not gonna be here next season anyway, maybe Johnstone, Dawson, doherty, Sasa, rodrigo gomoes, doyle thats about it really. Maybe ACL pro Sasa will still be here.
You cant deny ,we do play some good stuff at times and move the ball really well, ,we just switch of mentally defensively, and theGK ,has always got rick in him ,it all comes down to saints game win that he stays lose and he's gone
Do you think sacking Gary O’Neil will solve our problems we must also include Hobbs and Jeff Shi . O’Neil says they haven’t got the money to sign proven premier league players . Instead we bring in young players who are not ready to play in the premier league . We need to get Fosun out and somebody who will put in money to get us up at the top we can’t go on like this
We should stick with Gary O'Neil and I'm amazed that so many people are now calling for him to be sacked. We have had the most difficult first nine games that any side has ever had in the premier league, and in most of them we competed well and were unlucky not come out with a few more points (deflected shots, VAR, etc etc.). We have just started a series of less difficult matches, and fought well on Saturday against a decent Palace side, scoring two great goals. If Sarabia had been able to slot home the two one-to-ones that Cunha presented him with, we would all be happy now - so is this Gary O'Neil's fault or Sarabia's? Seriously, guys, have some patience and some faith.
We bought many players that aren’t ready made players so besides two rest don’t contribute so we are very thin, one or two injuries & we are in deep trouble. Fosun & Hobs have more to answer than GON
Agree with hoops 💯 GON tlks about us like were luton who have just got promoted, hes got a negative looser mindset... look at nuno with forest now! GON HAS TO GO
Great Live watching it partly even Live, but what on earth is going my YT account could always drop comments any video any channel but already 6 days cant Live chatting anywere ok there has been two exceptions (no im not Banned either ) never seen this kind of problems"" yes checking my settings and search even answers on google havent manage to solve issue yet and YT is 20 years young next feb
The problem, as Sutty & Jack has made, is the business model of this club. Its owners are using it as a money laundering scheme, so have zero interest in looking after it. Unfortunately, we will be relegated this year, and I hope that Fosun lose money and face, that they end up selling us to owners with more ambition. Maybe a nice Qatari sheik or a third world tyrant would be a welcome change from Jeff Shi & co..
No matter what happens out on that pitch i could never bring myself to boo my own team that being said i think gon as been given a fair crack of the whip and i think its time he was shown the door
Last time Wolves didn't win any of the opening 10 games was in 1983-1984. Coincidentally, that time Wolves also only had 3 points after 10 games.
What followed then was three years of straight relegation, all the way to the Fourth Division. And an ownership change.
Let's see if this club of a disgusting watch is set to repeat its darkest history.
ouch
Having Chinese owners doesn't help the situation.....you've only got to look at the record of other clubs coming under Chinese ownership,,,,Relegation and disaster !!!
wolves have been the exception. dont matter who the owners are many clubs been owned by all sorts that aint worked nd some that have. look at united
@@AlwaysWolvesthere’s the key point Dave “have been the exception” not any more im afraid it’s only going one way
Fosuns ten year plan was to have us in the champions league, competing with Man City and a 50000 seater stadium
Now we are going to end up in the lower leagues again competing with Birmingham city and the stadium is worse now than when they bought us
Doesn’t matter if he had control or not. The palace player has gone through sa and not made any contact with the ball. Foul all day long
cool
As Oddball said “HAVE A LITTLE FAITH BABY”
29:22 the episode analysed the 2-1 vs City I remember it cos they spent 5 minutes talking about stopping Haaland
ok
Relegation is staring us in the face, some very good players yet they don't play as a team, its too many individuals and they will all be looking for a way out before the end of the season. Gary O'Neil is a championship manager at best, Fosun and Shi don't know how to run a football club, season ticket increases and now they can't sell out the stadium, corporate seating is being reduced every game, team shirts are always on special now, they will lose millions if we get relegated, no players, fewer supporters. They tried the Portuguese experiment with Mendes then after falling out with him we tried the South American route , desperate signings like Sasa who is permanently injured
interesting
He's not championship manager has he ever managed a season at that level no! So he's not even that! 🤔 he was a championship average players for Swansea or whoever he played for. Sent off in the play off final? Lol 😆 so his self discipline is amazing.
Hi Dave. Regardless of the result of the Southampton match, if GON is still there after the international break then we are relegated. To have any chance of survival he has to go NOW. Bournemouth knew exactly what they were doing....look at where they are now. There is no way he can turn this around and to put things off any longer will be terminal.
The irony as we languish at the bottom of the premiership a former Manager who gave us our best times takes his team to third place in the league……… Talk about Ying & Yang
A team that has been so heavily invested in, to a point of points being deducted goes on to be as successful as they currently are by a manager that talk’s the talk and gets all to buy into it.
We’re like a ship without a rudder…..the Marie Celeste springs to mind……totally frustrated….. we’re at a point where a change needs to happen…….
well said
What that ship lol didn't sink or lose its rudders lol. Ha ha they had gas leak in the barrels below very toxic 🤣 and highly flammable explosive so guess what they jumped ship. Rudders were fine! Sounds like what most these headless chickens are gonna do when the season is over. Or worse start dealing before the window behind closed doors with their agents.
Every premier league team has good players and can play pretty football. We are not too good to go down, and the table doesn't lie. Problem is whoever eventually replaces GON won't save us. Everything looks like we are going down with one of the lowest points totals ever.
Feel sorry for O’Neill he is working with a half set of spanners, he has had all his best and flair players sold and only average players brought in.
And defensive coaching??????
sorry for him hes paid good money we have 4 Brazilians we only sold neto who was flair and he wasnt fit half the time
Stephen you are one very kind patient man, maybe a little naive as well. He is incompetent and of, ask Bournemouth fans - 92 goals against in 48 games! How loud do you want it shouted?
Best managers or head coaches work with what they have got. Others don't let the transfer window close before bringing adequate cover and reinforcements in. That's what's happened to Gary he wasn't backed or couldnt attract the right type of player. I believe the latter is the case. Players didn't wanna come here and play for him. Not the better options. Oh well. What's done is done.
Hi Dave, our players have let us down. Gary can only, do so much with the players don't think they have the fight or the nouce in em.😢
the players are fighting mate, its how they are being asked to play
Most of these players are not gonna be here next season anyway, maybe Johnstone, Dawson, doherty, Sasa, rodrigo gomoes, doyle thats about it really. Maybe ACL pro Sasa will still be here.
The only manager we will get is a yes man because fosun wont spend
Cunha hand balled it its a wonder var didnt get involved
Sutty if you was the wolves manager with this squad of players what formation would you play and players
You cant deny ,we do play some good stuff at times and move the ball really well, ,we just switch of mentally defensively, and theGK ,has always got rick in him ,it all comes down to saints game win that he stays lose and he's gone
yep
Do you think sacking Gary O’Neil will solve our problems we must also include Hobbs and Jeff Shi . O’Neil says they haven’t got the money to sign proven premier league players . Instead we bring in young players who are not ready to play in the premier league . We need to get Fosun out and somebody who will put in money to get us up at the top we can’t go on like this
Not a cheery watch watching this monday morning, come on ffs 😮
nope
@@AlwaysWolves I guess it's only football 😫😉
Heard through a friend who works at wolves. Alot of the wolves players dont want to be at wolves
They are putting in the effort
lots of people hear things through fried who's mum works with someone hearsay
We should stick with Gary O'Neil and I'm amazed that so many people are now calling for him to be sacked. We have had the most difficult first nine games that any side has ever had in the premier league, and in most of them we competed well and were unlucky not come out with a few more points (deflected shots, VAR, etc etc.). We have just started a series of less difficult matches, and fought well on Saturday against a decent Palace side, scoring two great goals. If Sarabia had been able to slot home the two one-to-ones that Cunha presented him with, we would all be happy now - so is this Gary O'Neil's fault or Sarabia's? Seriously, guys, have some patience and some faith.
We bought many players that aren’t ready made players so besides two rest don’t contribute so we are very thin, one or two injuries & we are in deep trouble. Fosun & Hobs have more to answer than GON
not more but some yeah
If we are adrift in January fosun will not spend anything and just cut the cloth for championship
well thats not true is it they did 2 years ago
@AlwaysWolves depends how far adrift and if they do .I think keeping in ffp won't allow much wriggle room this time
Sar wont play saturday after telling north bant to f off
Need complete ownership change… maybe Elon Musk will buy us
imagine lol
We need to move on from this situation, last chance against southhampton
times up
Agree with hoops 💯 GON tlks about us like were luton who have just got promoted, hes got a negative looser mindset... look at nuno with forest now! GON HAS TO GO
Great Live watching it partly even Live, but what on earth is going my YT account could always drop comments any video any channel but already 6 days cant Live chatting anywere ok there has been two exceptions (no im not Banned either ) never seen this kind of problems"" yes checking my settings and search even answers on google havent manage to solve issue yet and YT is 20 years young next feb
No clue
@@AlwaysWolves yeps that was like statement not question why i wasnt able to chatting anything
The problem, as Sutty & Jack has made, is the business model of this club.
Its owners are using it as a money laundering scheme, so have zero interest in looking after it. Unfortunately, we will be relegated this year, and I hope that Fosun lose money and face, that they end up selling us to owners with more ambition.
Maybe a nice Qatari sheik or a third world tyrant would be a welcome change from Jeff Shi & co..
thats utter rubbish laundering the premier league is the most scrutinised of things. we do need to see more ambition yep
No matter what happens out on that pitch i could never bring myself to boo my own team that being said i think gon as been given a fair crack of the whip and i think its time he was shown the door
good points
Weve got tge 2 worst keepers in tge keague
All the signings we made dont play except 1 larson weve just wasted money
Final table
Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification or relegation
1 Liverpool (C) 42 22 14 6 73 32 +41 80 Qualification for the European Cup first round
2 Southampton 42 22 11 9 66 38 +28 77 Qualification for the UEFA Cup first round
3 Nottingham Forest 42 22 8 12 76 45 +31 74
4 Manchester United 42 20 14 8 71 41 +30 74
5 Queens Park Rangers 42 22 7 13 67 37 +30 73
6 Arsenal 42 18 9 15 74 60 +14 63
7 Everton 42 16 14 12 44 42 +2 62 Qualification for the European Cup Winners' Cup first round[a]
8 Tottenham Hotspur 42 17 10 15 64 65 −1 61 Qualification for the UEFA Cup first round[b]
9 West Ham United 42 17 9 16 60 55 +5 60
10 Aston Villa 42 17 9 16 59 61 −2 60
11 Watford 42 16 9 17 68 77 −9 57
12 Ipswich Town 42 15 8 19 55 57 −2 53
13 Sunderland 42 13 13 16 42 53 −11 52
14 Norwich City 42 12 15 15 48 49 −1 51
15 Leicester City 42 13 12 17 65 68 −3 51
16 Luton Town 42 14 9 19 53 66 −13 51
17 West Bromwich Albion 42 14 9 19 48 62 −14 51
18 Stoke City 42 13 11 18 44 63 −19 50
19 Coventry City 42 13 11 18 57 77 −20 50
20 Birmingham City (R) 42 12 12 18 39 50 −11 48 Relegation to the Second Division
21 Notts County (R) 42 10 11 21 50 72 −22 41
22 Wolverhampton Wanderers (R) 42 6 11 25 27 80 −53 29
1983-84 table when wolves achieved 3 points in ten, the slide to fourth division. STOP IT TODAY or history will repeat itself.
thanks