Heidegger knew that technology would lead humanity astray. He also knew that humanity would utilise such technology to lead humanity astray. The only way forward is for the human spirit to prevail technology. I understand his returning to Greek thought so much clearer in light of this.
I think, (perhaps) this person means to say in a more "worldwide" manner as outsude of academia, in the more wider eye of the public. @thepoltergeizzt
@@BioChemistryWizard vice versa. And this is not possibile to make such obvious mistake like nazi participation and be authenticaly deep in any humanly relevant way.
The first part felt like one of Bergman's poetic monologues. How did the postmoderns turn Heidegger's reverence for language into a cynical, nihilistic expression of the will to power? I feel strongly that his philosophy will become increasingly applied at a deeper level.
You can even see his critique of the "enframing" of such will to power in his writings on art. Btw you should check Byung-Chul Han if you have never heard of him as he is a unique contemporary philosopher with a Heidergerrian background.
What happens when computer code becomes the language of basic human literacy? Computer code literacy is becoming more and more generalized in the population. However, computer code is a language that is only an instrument and if sufficiently generalized would definitely bring Heidegger's warnings in this video about human beings becoming severed from truth to fruition. The philosopher and poet both use language not an instrument of daily life but as a medium to change how we question the world around us.
And it's curious that for Heidegger's analytic counterparts like Russell and Ayer, this is exactly what they wanted: pure condensed logic with no ornamentation or individuality.
@@aletheuo475 & @T K What happens is Human Being is reduced to Das Nichts, we becoming complicit in the nihilation of Being. Practically we allow ourselves to be reduced by technology to sets of categories and their relations. These relations and categories only form a horizon around the emptiness of a consuming nothing that has itself swallowed the core of Being. Perhaps one could say curiously, this horizon has a logic, that of individualism and consumption. I think its indicative of the postmodern liberalism that the narrative of Heideggerain authenticity was seeing co-opted by consumerism in order to further the processes he warned of. In such a word it seems to me that philosophy is a love and a running towards the light of wisdom that is falling ever more rapidly into the whole of Das Nichts. Poetry is to relay this light, to perpetuate it, to rekindle it. Poetry can bring the truth of authentic being back into the darkness of modernity on condition that it is not sundered from the truth philosophy guides us towards. Is not the task of being human as it ever was, to hold onto and bring ever into being beauty and truth, the truth of beauty and the beauty of truth. As Keats wrote: "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,-that is all./ Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know."
@@dustash1578how was Heideggerian authenticity co-opted by post modern liberalism? Could you explain or point to source material on this? Genuinely curious
We have become obsessed with science, it has actually worsen the problem of Nihilism. Art is the only path towards a creative organization of Being (Polemos or the Will to live) for the sake of giving life meaning… but even art is suffering from this epistemological addiction for “objective truth”. Language must return to its most sacred use: to create beauty, instead of just being an instrument of info exchange or technological domination of the world.
The mind forms words and words shape the mind To one, language is clay - solid - that must be fashioned into a vessel to hold thought To another, it is flame to ward off fear For another, rain to wash in experience And for some, wind to carry the mind away
Not to rain on the compliments but care should be taken when associating the term “mind” with Heidegger’s work…there’s a reason that Hegel’s premier work gets translated (by the Anglo-analyticals) as “The Phenomenology of Mind” instead of “…of Spirit.” Heidegger’s work no doubt belongs in the latter world.
@@erickessler3106 Thank you for pointing that out. It prods me to re-read that work. Is there an annotated version of it which could partially make up for my ignorance of German?
@@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 philosophers have always wrote about other philosophers, i dont know in what world you live in. and today's philosophers don't only write about others
Es gibt keine dumme Frage, man hört die Philosophie Professoren immer behaupten. Nun, die dümmste Frage: warum existiert Etwas überhaupt anstatt Nichts?
@@AYVYN Gravity isn't a force; it's a consequence of curved spacetime. And why should there be a force that gives nothingness precedence? You can perfectly claim, for example, that you came before your younger sibling without having to refer to a force?
He also was a nazi, one should not try to deny it. His philosophy still remains one of the most important of the XXth century, but its very interesting to try to understand how such a mind got seduced by national socialism.
Can this be taken as Heidegger signaling his inclination toward the Analytical school? "Unterwegs zur Sprache" came out in 1959. The Anglosphere finally breaches the Continental defenses.
Far from it. Even by the 50's most of the analytics were still not self-conscious of the dangers the technology that has its origin in their philosophy was creating. Read the positivists. The domination of the phenomenological world of man by industrialization was directly driven by these analytics. Our engineers and scientists were creating electricity, cars, vaccines, plastic, atomic bombs- all without awareness of the new world they were creating. They were thinking purely analytically. Just as cancer grows for the sake of growth, so too technology took on its own life. The late Heidegger saw technology as the main threat to Dasein and its world (hence the famous dictum: "only a God can save us now", as well as his remark: "it doesn't matter who won the second world war. Whoever it was, it was in the end technology"). We have now reached a world so dominated by abstraction and technology that man himself is at threat. We are genetically mutilating ourselves, attempting to do away with death, creating massive government/corporate systems with unparallel powers, getting fatter and fatter as we watch our TV's and loose our intimate relation to nature, the land, and human community. Of course, analytics will point to things like "life expectancy", "doing away with dogmatic religion (as if atheism and social justice causes are not acting in the same way as religion does), "average wealth per capitia", or advances in science as indications that the great analytic project is a success. Think of someone like Sam Harris. They have not grasped the meaning of the atomic bomb or the great catastrophe that is the car. They can't comprehend Jurassic Park. As we speak Elon musk is trying to create the "neurolink" that can upload consciousness into a cloud......we are in a grave position. As long as our analytic dominated world writes off religion, poetry, symbolism, and the continental tradition as "nonsense", nothing but catstrophe is certain
Nowhere is the view of language he is here warning against more prevalent than in the analytic tradition, first in logical positivism and then in the ordinary language school.
Haben die Nazis solche Fragen gestellt? Haben Nazis überhaupt viele Fragen gestellt? Haben die Nazis die Technik, das technische Denken, kritisiert (wie Heidegger)? Ich denke, die Antwort ist klar!
I think it’s rather simplistic to see this man as purely as Nazi thinker since that would suggest he was purely an ideologue or that his critics solely attack him for “being a nazi thinker.”
@@juanbetancourtg68 those are the same people who hold up Der Spiegel interview and the Black Notebooks as irrefutable evidence of his unbridled Nazism. That attitude is a sure sign they never read those texts. Another good insight into the matter is Gadamer's "Heidegger's Ways."
He was probably afraid for his and his family's life if he stood against the Nazi ideology. It is ridiculous to hate him just because of the culture he was born into.
The language is the problem ~ which sounds in deutsch like long nonsens ~*~ It is the power of the word ~ which is raped by human with language ~*~ A wording is possibel ~ without using language ~*~ The name clear all this ~ is deutschlogik ~ a word which is the key to get more informations of the truley thinking ~*~
Heidegger knew that technology would lead humanity astray. He also knew that humanity would utilise such technology to lead humanity astray. The only way forward is for the human spirit to prevail technology. I understand his returning to Greek thought so much clearer in light of this.
Those days are close when this person will be deeply analyzed worldwide and his teaching and approaches will be highly appreciated.
They are already?
I think, (perhaps) this person means to say in a more "worldwide" manner as outsude of academia, in the more wider eye of the public. @thepoltergeizzt
Jaspers was better, earlier, deeper and not-nazi
@@deadaccount5290 If you think Jaspers was deeper than Heidegger. You did not understand Heidegger.
@@BioChemistryWizard vice versa. And this is not possibile to make such obvious mistake like nazi participation and be authenticaly deep in any humanly relevant way.
The first part felt like one of Bergman's poetic monologues.
How did the postmoderns turn Heidegger's reverence for language into a cynical, nihilistic expression of the will to power? I feel strongly that his philosophy will become increasingly applied at a deeper level.
You can even see his critique of the "enframing" of such will to power in his writings on art. Btw you should check Byung-Chul Han if you have never heard of him as he is a unique contemporary philosopher with a Heidergerrian background.
Han is quite perspicacious indeed.
@@samuilpetkov497 A got a taste of his 'Burn out society' a while back. I'll look into him more.
the short answer is they didn't and you're dumb.
What happens when computer code becomes the language of basic human literacy? Computer code literacy is becoming more and more generalized in the population. However, computer code is a language that is only an instrument and if sufficiently generalized would definitely bring Heidegger's warnings in this video about human beings becoming severed from truth to fruition. The philosopher and poet both use language not an instrument of daily life but as a medium to change how we question the world around us.
And it's curious that for Heidegger's analytic counterparts like Russell and Ayer, this is exactly what they wanted: pure condensed logic with no ornamentation or individuality.
Interesting thought…
That last sentence only addresses the topical difference, without appreciating the latter's richness, sensitivity nor gravitas.
@@aletheuo475 & @T K What happens is Human Being is reduced to Das Nichts, we becoming complicit in the nihilation of Being. Practically we allow ourselves to be reduced by technology to sets of categories and their relations. These relations and categories only form a horizon around the emptiness of a consuming nothing that has itself swallowed the core of Being. Perhaps one could say curiously, this horizon has a logic, that of individualism and consumption. I think its indicative of the postmodern liberalism that the narrative of Heideggerain authenticity was seeing co-opted by consumerism in order to further the processes he warned of.
In such a word it seems to me that philosophy is a love and a running towards the light of wisdom that is falling ever more rapidly into the whole of Das Nichts. Poetry is to relay this light, to perpetuate it, to rekindle it. Poetry can bring the truth of authentic being back into the darkness of modernity on condition that it is not sundered from the truth philosophy guides us towards. Is not the task of being human as it ever was, to hold onto and bring ever into being beauty and truth, the truth of beauty and the beauty of truth. As Keats wrote: "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,-that is all./ Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know."
@@dustash1578how was Heideggerian authenticity co-opted by post modern liberalism? Could you explain or point to source material on this? Genuinely curious
He may have had some nazi sympathies but his field was ontology not ethics. His thought is particularly relevant in an era of artificial intelligence.
His ontology implies an ethics, an ethics of authenticity, tradition, and belonging. This is at odds with liberal ethics.
@EresirThe1st You may be right. However, I'm merely cautious about "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" because of his Nazi sympathies.
Philosophers still philophize but it will not be televised unless a kind sir on RUclips takes a risk.
We have become obsessed with science, it has actually worsen the problem of Nihilism. Art is the only path towards a creative organization of Being (Polemos or the Will to live) for the sake of giving life meaning… but even art is suffering from this epistemological addiction for “objective truth”. Language must return to its most sacred use: to create beauty, instead of just being an instrument of info exchange or technological domination of the world.
The mind forms words and words shape the mind
To one, language is clay - solid - that must be fashioned into a vessel to hold thought
To another, it is flame to ward off fear
For another, rain to wash in experience
And for some, wind to carry the mind away
Whose thoughts are this! So good 😊
@@shrisuryarathinam97 My own, inspired by this recording
….not too shabby.
Not to rain on the compliments but care should be taken when associating the term “mind” with Heidegger’s work…there’s a reason that Hegel’s premier work gets translated (by the Anglo-analyticals) as “The Phenomenology of Mind” instead of “…of Spirit.” Heidegger’s work no doubt belongs in the latter world.
@@erickessler3106 Thank you for pointing that out. It prods me to re-read that work. Is there an annotated version of it which could partially make up for my ignorance of German?
Who wants to see my Dasein?
Danke!
and the ai came 2024. Heidegger's Gestell has trapped us deeper in the frame.
Thank you so much!!!
Rationality has become synonymous with incomprehensibility, and empirical evidence has become synonymous with money.
sO DeEP
@ Thanks, babe.
When philosophers still philosophised!
Indeed!!!!
he does not philosophize, he thinks.
bro what do you think they do now lmao
@@ibisqowrite about other philosophers
@@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060 philosophers have always wrote about other philosophers, i dont know in what world you live in. and today's philosophers don't only write about others
How is he that great?!
He's perhaps the most important philosopher of the last century. Being and Time is truly a masterpiece
@@BrunoCardoso-dp3bd May be Markus Gabriel is the best philosopher auf the 21st century.
@@Zitat-ist-auch-nicht-mehr-daslol what?
@@Zitat-ist-auch-nicht-mehr-das who the hell is that guy? 😂
Es gibt keine dumme Frage, man hört die Philosophie Professoren immer behaupten. Nun, die dümmste Frage: warum existiert Etwas überhaupt anstatt Nichts?
Beyond the scope of observable physics, there’s no force which gives nothingness precedence. That’s simply a cognitive bias.
@@AYVYN I do not understand your comment. What do you mean by "force?"
@@JSwift-jq3wn Like Gravity is a force that pushes you towards heavier things.
- My German isn’t very good, so it may be hard describe.
@@AYVYN Gravity isn't a force; it's a consequence of curved spacetime. And why should there be a force that gives nothingness precedence? You can perfectly claim, for example, that you came before your younger sibling without having to refer to a force?
being
The people who call Heidegger a Nazi aren’t smart enough to understand what he was REALLY up to.
( _up to_ has no negligent connotations?)Oo 🤔
He also was a nazi, one should not try to deny it. His philosophy still remains one of the most important of the XXth century, but its very interesting to try to understand how such a mind got seduced by national socialism.
Well?
He was literally a Nazi
Nothing wrong with being NS. Schmitt was also one. In fact we need more of them in philosophy.
W
Wolf in sheep's clothing
Can this be taken as Heidegger signaling his inclination toward the Analytical school?
"Unterwegs zur Sprache" came out in 1959.
The Anglosphere finally breaches the Continental defenses.
the opposite
Its the opposite.
Far from it. Even by the 50's most of the analytics were still not self-conscious of the dangers the technology that has its origin in their philosophy was creating. Read the positivists. The domination of the phenomenological world of man by industrialization was directly driven by these analytics. Our engineers and scientists were creating electricity, cars, vaccines, plastic, atomic bombs- all without awareness of the new world they were creating. They were thinking purely analytically. Just as cancer grows for the sake of growth, so too technology took on its own life. The late Heidegger saw technology as the main threat to Dasein and its world (hence the famous dictum: "only a God can save us now", as well as his remark: "it doesn't matter who won the second world war. Whoever it was, it was in the end technology"). We have now reached a world so dominated by abstraction and technology that man himself is at threat. We are genetically mutilating ourselves, attempting to do away with death, creating massive government/corporate systems with unparallel powers, getting fatter and fatter as we watch our TV's and loose our intimate relation to nature, the land, and human community. Of course, analytics will point to things like "life expectancy", "doing away with dogmatic religion (as if atheism and social justice causes are not acting in the same way as religion does), "average wealth per capitia", or advances in science as indications that the great analytic project is a success. Think of someone like Sam Harris. They have not grasped the meaning of the atomic bomb or the great catastrophe that is the car. They can't comprehend Jurassic Park. As we speak Elon musk is trying to create the "neurolink" that can upload consciousness into a cloud......we are in a grave position. As long as our analytic dominated world writes off religion, poetry, symbolism, and the continental tradition as "nonsense", nothing but catstrophe is certain
lol no, this is incontrovertibly against analytic philosophizing
Nowhere is the view of language he is here warning against more prevalent than in the analytic tradition, first in logical positivism and then in the ordinary language school.
Haben die Nazis solche Fragen gestellt? Haben Nazis überhaupt viele Fragen gestellt? Haben die Nazis die Technik, das technische Denken, kritisiert (wie Heidegger)? Ich denke, die Antwort ist klar!
And it is getting worse ...
"tHeRe ArE nO gOoD nAzI tHiNkErS"
I think it’s rather simplistic to see this man as purely as Nazi thinker since that would suggest he was purely an ideologue or that his critics solely attack him for “being a nazi thinker.”
@@juanbetancourtg68 that's not what I meant but whatever
@@jackraiser4391 Oh I wasn’t contradicting you. I knew what you were getting at here.
@@juanbetancourtg68 those are the same people who hold up Der Spiegel interview and the Black Notebooks as irrefutable evidence of his unbridled Nazism.
That attitude is a sure sign they never read those texts. Another good insight into the matter is Gadamer's "Heidegger's Ways."
The most ridiculous ad hominem in a long time. Congratulations
So he was a bad man. He was a genius too. Make of that what you will. Because he didn't neglect to encapsulate the latter in permanent form either.
Heidegger wasn't a Nazi, he was just incredibly based.
He was probably afraid for his and his family's life if he stood against the Nazi ideology. It is ridiculous to hate him just because of the culture he was born into.
Get a grip
Never say something this stupid ever again please for the love of god
@@cmo5150 Which pronoun are you today?
The language is the problem ~ which sounds in deutsch like long nonsens ~*~ It is the power of the word ~ which is raped by human with language ~*~ A wording is possibel ~ without using language ~*~ The name clear all this ~ is deutschlogik ~ a word which is the key to get more informations of the truley thinking ~*~
"What is Worthy of Question" Not Heidegger.
German language and culture is criminal .