Creality Halot Sky Review - 60 days of constant printing stress tests - Is it good for a Print Farm?
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- It took me a fair bit of time to do this review with a proper stress test, but here is my review of the Creality Halot Sky that I beta tested a few months ago. Including what I liked, did not like, and how it held up to daily use with 12-16 hour print jobs every day.
Links to awesome places where you can get the Halot Sky:
USA buyers: www.sainsmart.com/products/cr...
Buy direct from Creality: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A2nP93 (affiliate link)
Canada buyers: www.concepts3d.ca/product-pag...
Models used:
Stone Golem by / yasashiikyojinstudio
Rocinante/Tachi Model: www.thingiverse.com/thing:206...
Wingman model by me, video and stl release TBD
My daily driver resin--US Made Resin from Ministry of Resin: www.ministryofresin.com 
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Same build plate volume as the Elegoo Saturn but about $450 dollars more than the Saturn $949.00. Do you think it's worth it? Nice review by the way.
For my own use case in wanting to operate as many printers (without the headaches of fails or maintenance work) as I can as a single operator or a hired print shop assistant or two. I think the markup is reasonable to get a platform that is quite rigid (which means I can push to go faster than the Saturn's Vroom settings theoretically), easy to maintain and clean, and allows for adjustments of settings on printer without needing to reslice.
The main sticking point that I am really hoping (and have been vocal about) is the fact that creality is trying to lock you into their slicer which is not great. That being said they are expressing willingness to work with Lychee and Chitu devs to allow more third party slicers to work on the Halot platforms.
Also keeping things in perspective, I started out in resin printing at a time in resin printing where I paid $500 for a Wanhao D7 Plus (5.5" rgb screen) and a Phrozen Shuffle XL cost me $1400 with shipping and was not even close to being half as good of a printer as either the Saturn or Halot Sky for far more money.
@@HiroCreations and that's why I watch your videos because you know what you're talking about!
@@ray24051 thanks! I appreciate that.
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For anyone coming across this video in 2022, the software/slicer issues are now nonexistent. Creality has also fixed all of the issues with using a 3rd party slicer.
the most perfect 3d ptinter review i have ever seen .
keep it up !!
Excellent review 👍🏽 I am looking to buy this for farm use and you nailed all the points I needed to know. Thanks!!!
This was actually very helpful. Thank you, sir.
Superb review many thanks.
Great review. Thanks so much!
Thanks!
Great review !!! Love the Rossi !!! Been looking for one of those for my Traveler games !
Yeah I really liked that model. Shame there are not more expanse ship models. I likely might have to roll up my sleeves and make a Tynan and Pella model to round out my collection.
@@HiroCreations do you have a website or mmf/patreon ? I’d like to get one of those from you if possible !!!
@@donscott6453 I used to have a cosplay prop Patreon that I have put on hold to take a short break to ensure I can keep up other professional responsibilities.
I will be relaunching the Patreon and a MMF soonish to offer models for tabletop/collector scale stuff to print. So stay tuned on that as I will be making noise about soon.
Great review, thanks for your sharing :D ,The Halot Sky is compatible to Lychee Slicer now.
Is that right?
For a future review, it would be nice to have a dimensional accuracy test on small, medium and large prints using a resin that's well known for being very accurate with low shrinkage.
I will see what I can track down, though dimensional accuracy honestly is more a function of how well dialed in the exposure times are for a given resin and the functional difference between printer models is relatively small if your resin is perfectly dialed in.
great review, answers what i was looking!
i've been using a 2r quite a lot (my second printer) and started to look for the new creality printers because i found their products trustworthy but the slicer is such a tremendous let down.
Chitubox has some functions really neat for printing jewelry and detailed small pieces
unlike lychee.
if creality don't change that i will have to look somewhere else.
thanks for the review
Good review from a hvy user, TY.
I love this printer but the slicer puts me off a little. I also think all resin printers should come with some sort of alarm or print pause when the resin is low. It wouldn't be difficult to do.
Excellent review. I'm going to practice with the creality slicer but I get a feeling there will be a firmware update to use other slicers.
Thanks for your awesome reviews! I understood that the more recent printers like the halot sky & the ibee deliver sharper prints than the likes of the mono x and saturn. Is this something you found? In all these mid size resin printers is there one that really stands out for you?
Great review thanks. Am a fan of Creality and have several printers (FDM) Am currently looking to start into the Resin Field ... quick question which has been an area that has confused me. How do you know the exposure times of the model and curing times, or is this an expensive trial and error learning curve .. Thankyou
Hey, I’m having a problem with my Halot Sky’s screen were the entire screen lights up just enough that it causes the resin in the vat to thicken and slightly yellow. The actual print area is only slightly brighter and results in semi solid resin on the FEP. I’ve tried changing the screen and updating the firmware. Have you experienced this issue?
which is the better printer (software included)... Anycubic Photon Mono X & the Creality3D HALOT-SKY CL-89?
Does this printer have a glass screen protector?
Hi , it will be nice to print some technical parts , that has to fit together . Test the Z axis height size , printing a technical part , that is all the printers fail. Especially Anycubic.
Won't be surprised if no one sees this but, I've been trying to fix/slightly upgrade my og anycubic photon, added a chitu v3 mother board, replaced the screen, still can't even get a uv test, could the light module be the problem???
Halot sky vs photon mono X Which printout is the best?
yup! I can't make-up my mind? creality one/max or anycubic monoX!! I'm imagining it's time 4 some new ''resin'' printers!! since the elegoo mars 3 is almost here!!! I have also been told that the ''firmware'' was buggy, and the file's?? ah U just touched on that 1 !! a super helpful video!! so important these topics!! yup! creality has super product's!! this file suport is kind of bumpy 4 me though!! I just want 2 send my file 2 a printer, then print!! seems ''silly'' 2 play number crunchy with it! then print!! seem's so wasteful 2 touch the process from 1.)design --> 2.)optimize/arc-welder plug-in --> 3.)slice/ --> 4.)print !! 5.)library!! so the creality is a ''special'' ''signed'' file type!! I'm like uh! what?? however, if I can just inject the *.stl, I might go with that!! from what I have seen, creality has ''real'' resin printers! they just have internal glitches, that have been the bump. in sales!! thanks 4 the video Yasu!! good luck in the ''future''
great technical review! I was curious about few things, as technology-wise, like it is this screen, or built quality, etc is better than rivals like Anycubic mono X 4K or Phrozen Mighty 4K? I am really interested in those two models so if you had experience with those, I would be glad if you can share your opinion.
Maybe I missed it in the video, you mentioned the screen, hinged cover and all other good things about it as a 3d farm owner, but I was curious if those details really matter for a regular guy who prints personal 3d models like collectible statues?
I don't know how many microns this can go down with the details but probably same with others. Also Elagoo is about to relase 6K, for 600 usd. I wonder if it's something to go with since it's right around the corner. (Elagoo is known to be not good with the delivery dates tho)
Since you are in business, you are the right guy to ask about customer relations about those manufacturers. So far Creality is well known with their Ender series, is it possible if you can compare Anycubic, Elagoo, Creality and Phrozen?
Thanks again! Cheers!
Thanks for the kind words.
1. The Halot Sky uses the same commonly used 4k 8.9 screens (either the TM or PJ variants, as I have not needed to change the screen yet so I can't verify part numbers yet and Creality can't/won't tell me). So the Halot Sky has the same 50 micron XY pixel resolution as the Mono X/Saturn. But the Mighty 4k is a slightly larger screen which means if I did my math right has a pixel size of 51microns which is a negligible difference on prints to a unaided eye.
2. Quality of life improvements like the lid is much more subjective for someone who might only be looking to keep 1-2 printers. With 10+ printers the lids actually are a much nicer touch because the pile of covers that build each morning when I go to remove prints from the bed is gigantic and eats up a fair bit of floor space. More printers compound small annoyances with ergonomics and UI.
3. With printers now on a release cycle of 2-3 big releases a year, machines that are new and cutting edge now will get obsolete within a year. So whether its the right time to jump in and get new release is a subjective call that depends on what important to you.
4. I actually have an outline for a video on this topic written down, I'm pretty agnostic to the customer service of Elegoo, Anycubic, Creality, and Phrozen as I've had mixed experiences with them equally. And the best customer service I got honestly came from working with resellers of their products rather than the manufacturer's themselves. So my hierarchy is to always buy from regional resellers or Amazon and avoid buying direct or on marketplaces like Bangood/Aliexpress which have limited or unhelpful customer service. Like I said I got enough material for a quickish discussion video because I got burned a few times.
@@HiroCreations Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation.. I started seeing DLP printers like Anycubic mono Ultra which has 80 microns sensivity but with the projection technology inside it delivers way better results than 30 micron printers.
If Anycubic releases that product soon, this means 2022 will be the year for us to see quick switching into DLP small and mid size printers.. obsoleting the LCD counterparts like resin did to FDM printers.
@@emrelee I'm pretty excited about DLP printers as I briefly worked with really expensive ones for dental printers they do have quite a few advantages over LCDs.
There are however, 2 potential "gotchas" that I can't confirm until there are printers in the wild.
1. The variable pixel size usually means that the size of the projection will also change. so its quite likely that to get the 30um pixel size means a sizable reduction in XY build volume--how much I am not sure.
2. Most of the current LCD resins on the market will overexpose if the DLP projectors are as strong as current generation dental DLP printers (they sit at the halfway point between Laser SLAs and mSLAs on light intensity). So it might take a bit to find the equivalent resin that matches an mSLA resin you might have liked.
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I'm setting up a jewelry workshop and was wondering how would this printer handle really tiny sharp details. On the website it says the xy resolution is 0.01 - 0.05 but what exactly does it mean? Is it adjustable or what?
I recently noticed that too, I honestly think that is a bad translation on their part because its a standard 8.9" 4k screen with a pixel size of 50ish microns and there is no way to physically adjust that.
@@HiroCreations Thanks for clearing this up!
The acuracy in the xy plane is 50 micron or 0.050 mm , the layer high (in z) cuold by anything about 0.01 to 0.05 mm , so yes , yuo can make jewlery , even for casting with speciall casting resin
Any chance you can show some close ups of the parts to see the machines detail and rigidity?
I'm probably going to start creating companion albums for higher res images of prints because I am finding youtube compression is terrible and really makes it hard to see details in videos. I'll gather up what I have and add a link.
@@HiroCreations _ Must be bloody good if you are talking about high res images :)
@@karlh6692 To be fair I'm talking pics shot with a Panasonic DSLR and high end smartphones, but all the same there are details I can see on photos that are are getting lost when I try to upload them to youtube in past videos.
Hi! I'm having this model for a couple of months now partially because of this great review. I hope you can advice me because I have constant problems with fails. I tried so many different things and I cannot find out what is the problem really. Is there any chance you could share information on the environment (resin model) ambient temp, setting you use? I can not find the exact reason why most of my prints are failing. Please send help...
Also, information like, did you peel off the protection screen? How often should the FEB be replaced?
What are the fails (nothing sticking, supports only printing, etc)? The type of fail definitely impacts what advice I can provide as each fail has different causes.
@@HiroCreations Supports not holding model. Small objects are fine, bigger prints are always failing.
what the max exposure time, is only 10sec? so you couldn't print using a resin that needs a longer exposure time like Onyx Impact Plus in the 20-30sec range?
@petermorphett should have no real upper limit on exposure times, we developed a bunch of slow curing (but also slower aging) resins that needed 40 second layers and 2 minute base layers.
Great review but you left out a big subject-You made no mention of it’s printing speed as compared to any other comfortable printer on the market?!
Its a good point, but in general printers with mono screens have near identical print exposure times and capabilities to handle vroom accelerations. The biggest differences that can be made in speeding up a print is in resin choice (which has its own tradeoffs with material properties).
So how does the device hold up after all this time? Is it still a contender for the top among printers like Mighty 4K and Mono X, etc. Can it have first spot in the printers list?
Still a solid performer that keeps plugging away in my farm day in and day out. The light source is the crispest I have used in the 8.9" category vs the MonoX, Saturn, and Epax E10. But the resolution/crispness is not as good as the Phrozen 4K but very close unless you are using some crazy optics to compare them.
It still sadly has some slicer/firmware issues but it does now have Lychee support as an alternative to Creality box for slicing.
Getting replacement consumables like the screen is relatively easy and cheap as its using the the same 8.9" screens used in Epax/Saturn/Mono X, which is a significant advantage over Phrozen machines that I find are tough to get screens cheaply or quickly due to the supply chain issues going around.
That said its pricey in the prospect of next gen Saturns and other medium format printers coming in at the same approximiate price points within 1-3 months
@@HiroCreations Do you have a test example to compare that details you mentioned for Mighty4k and Sky?
I wonder if you encountered any problems with Mighty 4K having plastic body or VAT along the time u used it? Sky is more sturdy I think right? Btw Does the light projection technology inside Sky has any advantages like longevity or fail safe print compare to Mighty 4K.
If you were to buy one for yourself no, between Mighty4k and Sky which one would you choose for sure without hesitation? Thanks :)
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I wish manufacturers would stop putting the USB port on the side.
With those "premium" 3D printers hitting the market, how do you think they compare to a FormLabs Form 3, in terms of quality, ease of use and reliability ?
Could be worse like the old days (when printers had the USB ports (or worse) micro SD card slots mounted behind the damn printers. I'm toying with the idea of modding some of my machines have forward facing USB ports.
Really hard to compare with the Form 3 because its a laser SLA vs a mSLA. In broad terms from what I have seen and experienced:
-mSLAs will almost always be faster because each layer is cured simultaneously vs having to be traced by a laser.
-Parts printed with laser SLAs using a quality engineering grade resin almost always has far better material properties (toughness and longer life) than a mSLA print, because SLA resin uses less photo reactant ingredients to cure under a high energy beam of a laser vs a mSLA printer that loses most of the light energy to the screen polarizers (only about 5%-10% of the light passes through the screen on the mono printer).
-mSLA will usually be cheaper to operate due to a wider range of cheap and functional consumables compared to the Form ecosystem (and small number of third party SLA resins).
-Formlabs likely might have an edge on reliability--simply because the printer is designed to hand hold the operator as much as possible. No mSLA is really doing that particularly well--but once you know how one resin printer works, you can really make most other resin printer models work really well with minimal learning curve.
@@HiroCreations i think the life of the laser is much longer than the screen used in mSLA printers , so yuo have a cost here
2x the price of a Saturn....that's really off putting, I say this running a print shop and can't find a reason that this would be any better than the other 8.9" printers. Light source seems like a gimmick
why was this your last video?
I sadly went inactive due to getting ridiculously busy with growing a print farm business and helping manage business development for a US based resin manufacturing startup. I'm definitely looking to carve out time to get back to making content again just need the spare time to do so.
@@HiroCreations Would you say the Creality Halot One is the best budget starter printer? Looks compelling with low price, big screen etc
@@samhillier4427 Its an okay machine, the main issues with it is the restricted slicer (you can only use the creality slicer and not Chitu/Lychee), limited availability of the screens and their high price, and mine had an issue of a crooked build plate that I had to shim to make it more level with the screen.
@@HiroCreations Oh thats a shame. I know creality has QC issues. But some of their resin printer designs are so good.
@@samhillier4427 To be fair it was a very very early release so later revisions might have been improved.
I'm at the point where I bought enough printers for a resin farm you run into all sorts of QC issues with machines from nearly every brand and I'm nearly at the point where its faster and at some sizes cheaper to scale by building my own resin printers in house with off the shelf parts and LED arrays and keeps the maintenance schedule easier than with a lot of the existing prebuilts.
Don't buy this. I just returned one.
1)No exposure layer displayed while printing.
2)Does not raise when paused.
3)Does not work with Chitubox, only proprietary crappy slicer.
4)Shows identical filenames on re-uploads.(5x so far)
5)Runs HOT.
6)Model is ripped from supports, tried many settings.
6)Hardware is awesome.
7) Get the LD-006 instead.