What formula did you use to arrive on which of the politician is telling the truth and the one telling lies!?? I gues the formula is..my political party/coalition =Truth!😊😊. Very interesting who politicians will make us dance around thier games without even thinking. If you were to substantiate senator Sifunas "Truth" what would you say?😊
They're definitely liars dilly-dallying and testing our intelligence with those foolish reasons they're presenting like they're talking to a nation of children . We are fed-up and we need action the blame game will get us nowhere..Sifuna says the solutions are available but the gov opts out on executing them ... Sifuna spoke truth to power and obviously the debtors are on the driver's seat speeding towards a brick wall.
@@Letsfacethetruth-cc7tj Lmao! It's not rocket science....The formula is simply known facts, Sifuna came with actual numbers and sources, including government sources, backing up pretty much every pertinent point he made about debt, taxes, etc. the other fellows brought endless rhetoric. But if you have counter facts to Sifuna's numbers feel free to share. By the way, no less than that former police bufoon turned KK hawk agrees that Sifuna is on point.🤗
A very interesting question. Sifuna's arguments are not factual but meant just to win the debate through heckling. He even keeps on hanging on the ODM common lie that the election was stolen despite him being a lawyer who witnessed the SC settle the matter. @@Letsfacethetruth-cc7tj
Sifuna debating 2men while teaching them their work is to congratulate him 🥰😂😂was mtura necessary for gachietha Sifuna 😂😂kijana ya Baba now needs crown 👑 🎉
Raila odinga is a great leader not because he is intelligent but because he surrounds himself with smart, intelligent and eloquent people like Edwin sifuna.
😂😂😂😂Owino is lauguing sheepishly, when hit with facts...... Hon. Sifuna, you can count on my one vote should you be on the ballot again. Well balanced ....
Hello Citizen. Please do not invite politicians to talk about the economy, invite economists. They will help people understand the situation. And by economists I mean economists who who are not practising politics.
Trevor is not a good moderator. He discloses biases in this debate. Sifuna is an excellent debater!! a wise guy. Khalwale doesn't know the difference between a Tram and Bus rapid transit (BRT) Owino is knowledgeable but living in denial that he can't be loved by his people. He is also trying to love his master by all lies at all costs.
There's nothing wrong with debt. The problem is how you use it. You eat it/steal it pain's on the way. You invest it you'll be able to develop while managing the debt payment. Overtaxing Kenyans to pay debt will only backfire as they cut consumption by huge margins reducing the taxes to be collected in the first place. Ruto's policy on borrowing from within will crowd out common Kenyans from capital. Not cutting down on unnecessary spending and wastage by the government isn't helping either.
Why is this war in Ukraine always an excuse when the government is not performing kwani this Ukraine was the one supporting the economy of the world that now other countries cannot thrive bcoz of Ukraine and Russia.😮
Please concentrate on Hydropower Generation in DRC. If we don't go for it, then someone else from Europe, say Belgium or France will go for it. The power Project is called "Grand Inga Dam Project" with capacity of 70GW of Power, or 70,000MW of power, compared with the largest hydropower we have in Kenya, Gitaru which gives 225MW of power. In DRC, we have more than 500 rivers with larger and more reliable flows than Tana River. We have more than 1000 sites where Hydropower of 1000MW and above can be generated. We, Kenya, should talk to DRC and be allowed to do the following:- 1) Carry out hydropower capacity study for the entire DRC, then call out developers to produce power. 2) We can then take several of the best sites and give them to Kenyans to develop. Then the whole of Africa will never complain of power for the rest of their lives. Uhuru should be tasked with this, as he seems to know the Congolee quite well.
Hon. Sifuna, is a huge relief to important discussions and debates. He is ussue focused. Other participantsnwho are UDA minions are irredeemably obsessed with being petty and argumentive on unnecessary agendas, tied with Kenya Kwisha money.
Dr Khakwale I like you as surgeon and greater defender of Truth, please you must know that Tanzanians and Ugandans and even Somalia are in a better state than Us today. I feel without fear that there is horrible financial mismanagement in rtje system and unplanned use of monies
Khalwale . you are right, Clean the city, Get rid of the Matatus. Look at Dare Salaam. look at Kigali They have clean efficient transportation, Nairobi is disorganized. Matatus driving on the wrong side of the road. They pollute, I recall after Independance we had an efficient transport, Because of corruption nothing has been done. People deserve better.
Absolutely Sifuna is good in debate always very relavant in his argument, now Kenya kwanza is still blaming uhuruto government which they were part of. If you apply for a job you are always sure that you are capable there is no room for blame game, further more you were number two then surely you still blame hypocrisy of the highest order. What we need now is delivery you asked for the job you were handed the office deliver. We don't eat and live blame
Owino, refusing to accept okay next time when you loose don't refuse agree and move on. I promise you if you will be playing the tune of your master at the expense of those you would need to vote for you in future. You will loose we need you now talk on our behalf since you the one close to the number one. We are not seeing you being with us now. "a friend in need is a friend indeed'
Why do media people let these guys get away with spewing lies? Check them on the spot. Raila was not in UHURUTO govt period. Ruto has gotten away with these lies for too long. You ran, you won, fulfil your promises. Stop whining.
Khalwale lying that the government has stopped borrowing yet it is in the public domain that the current regime has borrowed 1 Trillion shillings in one year.
I have liked and alluded to the comment made by this state officer owino and in deed the element of management and logistical aspects should be attended to the port railway roads and ITC, information & technical issues and on this by wherever means we ought to get it and improve in commercial scale and this should as well inform us that we are growing the demand of yester yrs are not for today as today are huge compared to the past.
" private company trying to do business in kenya" Sifuna, you have talked. Western world is far a head in with introducing electrical vehicles and they are also facing a lot of challenges in the cost related to energy and other issues. Why should kenya import electricity vehicles before tackling the energy problem. Agriculture is our primary sector and it should be fixed before anything else. The consumers need to be empowered economically so that they can consume locally produced goods
Gachietha is placing an order for sea food yet " hii ni mtu wa mitura" Edwin Sifuna, Senator Nairobi and SG ODM Kenya, 21st September 2023. Cite that in your next econmics class
Charles Owino is verbose to engage in a conversation with solution focused intelligent Sen Sifuna. We all know that corruption and wastage are responsible for financial haemorrhage of the hard earned taxes.
Every team kenya kwanza politicians talk they must mention last regime serikali had mm hua huwashangaa sana , so fuve yrs and you will still be blaming uhuru
Owino is diluting the conversation with petty rhetoric over handshake whose role in ailing the economy he can't explain. We need brainy people to run Kenya
Owino is a very demented man. He cannot overcome the fact that he lost in the ODM primaries. He cannot go on without attempting to attack Baba. He has no value to this debate.
Two KK guys against Sifuna and yet northing tangible from them çompared to what Sifuna is presenting! SIASA MBAYA MAISHA MBAYA! LET PEOPLE REPENT AND TURN BACK TO GOD!!
The much hyped economic stimulus package by the bullfighter is better realized by reduction of 8% VAT on fuel. 14 bob on every liter of fuel will have a net effect both in collection of revenue and on the cost of living. The presidency also needs to be frugal and stop the hemorrhage veiled as thanksgiving as well as have Gachagua stick to mutura
Owino is mostly digressing and khalwale has no real ammunition to defend kk gvt. He can only sell us mirages. True sifuna wears many hats and changes gear on the situation. Infrastructure is key, before you rush to bring electric buses, motorcycles etc
Countries that have adopted BRT have been well thought and implemented. Kenya should not rush to implement it haphazardly. What is the concrete plan of transfer from current motorcycles to electric??? No one says this!!!
The more i see this tye more i see our generation being stupidity 😢stipidity stupid 😅😅😅. Things happen. And things have to change😂.how we perform IS THE KENYA WE NEED!!
Senator Sifuna can dismantle even ten competent debaters. Trevor knew Sifuna's cunning nature before calling two UDA minions to debate him 😂😂
That is why I like this guy Edwin Sifuna, he has FACTS on the table. Big up SG
Sifuna beyond facts, is a good debater. He cleaned the floor with these two liars. Kudos Sifuna. Call them out. You are such a voice of reason.
What formula did you use to arrive on which of the politician is telling the truth and the one telling lies!?? I gues the formula is..my political party/coalition =Truth!😊😊. Very interesting who politicians will make us dance around thier games without even thinking. If you were to substantiate senator Sifunas "Truth" what would you say?😊
They're definitely liars dilly-dallying and testing our intelligence with those foolish reasons they're presenting like they're talking to a nation of children . We are fed-up and we need action the blame game will get us nowhere..Sifuna says the solutions are available but the gov opts out on executing them ... Sifuna spoke truth to power and obviously the debtors are on the driver's seat speeding towards a brick wall.
@@Letsfacethetruth-cc7tj Lmao! It's not rocket science....The formula is simply known facts, Sifuna came with actual numbers and sources, including government sources, backing up pretty much every pertinent point he made about debt, taxes, etc. the other fellows brought endless rhetoric. But if you have counter facts to Sifuna's numbers feel free to share. By the way, no less than that former police bufoon turned KK hawk agrees that Sifuna is on point.🤗
@@Letsfacethetruth-cc7tjhe used his common sense which you are lucking.
A very interesting question. Sifuna's arguments are not factual but meant just to win the debate through heckling. He even keeps on hanging on the ODM common lie that the election was stolen despite him being a lawyer who witnessed the SC settle the matter. @@Letsfacethetruth-cc7tj
Cheers Senator Sifuna. I love your reasoning and expression, Sir.
Nobody and nobody puts it better than Sifuna
Yes Safina is the man I love listening to always on point
Hon. Sifuna the Kenyan foot soldier 😊 we Love you "emboko"
Kudos Sifuna u have actually connerd those liars. Explaining what they don't understand
Sifuna and Jimmy Wanjigi know their suff. Very factual and a treasure to Kenyans
Calling you fools?
Sifuna you are a genius,truth and truth all the way
Sifuna debating 2men while teaching them their work is to congratulate him 🥰😂😂was mtura necessary for gachietha Sifuna 😂😂kijana ya Baba now needs crown 👑 🎉
😂😂😂 hio ni uppercut moto
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SIFUNA SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE INVITATION ON THIS SHOW CITIZEN TV. WE DENAND THAT😅
Siku moja watushtue na Azimio(Sifuna, babu owino, Ledama) vs KK(Khalwale, kimani ichungwah, Cherargei)
@@imraanism Itakua fireworks 🎆 i tell you!
He is a regular panelist every Thursday
@@imraanismunataka ledama awekelee ichungwa rungu
Reality. SG Sen. Sifuna👍
Raila odinga is a great leader not because he is intelligent but because he surrounds himself with smart, intelligent and eloquent people like Edwin sifuna.
Correct
Owino is looking for a job, very foolish. Deviation from subject matter to blaming Raila. Nonsense
Correct.
Uyo nikama hajawai tosheka kunyonya kidole, very petty
Very petty. Doesn't understand anything... struggling to get points from the speakers😢
Idiot..he is still got that kiganjo thing running in his head..nga mofuo
@@bettywabuko5071 owino is a class example of tumbo cracy Bure kabisa Kama ngozi ya paka.
Sifuna is brilliant,a good debater,eloquent and very composed.
Sifuna balancing 2 people perfectly without struggling
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
sifuna for president. manze this guy is so prepared and has good facts. i hope when he ascends to power he does not change.
You are thinking like me. We want him to take the bull by its horns
am here only lessening to sifuna,hao wengine ninawaskip,Sina haja ya west my bundles
Where facts compare with petty talks.Thank you Senator Sifuna
How I wish we had more Sifunas.
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Ndio Gachagua akule mutura.😋😋😋😛
@@mwendapoleee that got me laughing out loud😂😂😂😂
Charles' aim has been attacking Sifuna shamelessly from the start, with no point to make
And who's talking sense
At some point he even brought the issue of election from nowhere 😂😂😂
I like the fact that Sifuna uses facts from the constitution and information that can be verified. A good leader.
Thanks Edwin sifuna.Tell the truth and you will never struggle to remember anything.
Sifuna is an example of the men this hero called baba birth...
Kenya is in safe hands...
This is fantastic clarifications thanks Senator Sifuna
My senator Mr Sifuna you doing a good job by articulating the issues effectively as it should be.
😂😂😂😂Owino is lauguing sheepishly, when hit with facts...... Hon. Sifuna, you can count on my one vote should you be on the ballot again. Well balanced ....
Please allow sifuna to participate in more of these debates he is the only one who understands us here
Bonny and his KK cannot give us some pseudo excuses. The world is fine, tired of this mockery and their misuse of public resources
I don't see the need for Owino on this panel. He is pedestrian at best.
Hello Citizen. Please do not invite politicians to talk about the economy, invite economists. They will help people understand the situation. And by economists I mean economists who who are not practising politics.
This man, Sifuna is just informed. Safi sana
I can listen to sifuna all day long
Trevor is not a good moderator. He discloses biases in this debate.
Sifuna is an excellent debater!! a wise guy.
Khalwale doesn't know the difference between a Tram and Bus rapid transit (BRT)
Owino is knowledgeable but living in denial that he can't be loved by his people. He is also trying to love his master by all lies at all costs.
There's nothing wrong with debt. The problem is how you use it. You eat it/steal it pain's on the way. You invest it you'll be able to develop while managing the debt payment. Overtaxing Kenyans to pay debt will only backfire as they cut consumption by huge margins reducing the taxes to be collected in the first place. Ruto's policy on borrowing from within will crowd out common Kenyans from capital. Not cutting down on unnecessary spending and wastage by the government isn't helping either.
Citizen must not lower Sifuna's debating acumen with people like Owino.
Sifuna is a beast. Keep doing it supper SG and senator.
Senator Sifuna is just the best! Tell it as it is and tell them the truth. We are tired of Lies
Owino isn't fit for this discussions
Why is this war in Ukraine always an excuse when the government is not performing kwani this Ukraine was the one supporting the economy of the world that now other countries cannot thrive bcoz of Ukraine and Russia.😮
Crap, they know tugeges will buy..
Thank You my Senator Sifuna for laying out the Facts to these guys who have no clue about what they are talking about
The vision of Baba is beyond Kenya, Owino the yet to reform Cop will have to struggle to think through it
Sifuna you are a genius,truth and truth all the way....
Sifuna you have hammered Owino
BRT is not wires😂😂 Sifuna is a Savage
CITIZEN TV kindly invite senator sifuna more often we need facts not lies by other guests like khalwale
Please concentrate on Hydropower Generation in DRC. If we don't go for it, then someone else from Europe, say Belgium or France will go for it. The power Project is called "Grand Inga Dam Project" with capacity of 70GW of Power, or 70,000MW of power, compared with the largest hydropower we have in Kenya, Gitaru which gives 225MW of power. In DRC, we have more than 500 rivers with larger and more reliable flows than Tana River. We have more than 1000 sites where Hydropower of 1000MW and above can be generated. We, Kenya, should talk to DRC and be allowed to do the following:- 1) Carry out hydropower capacity study for the entire DRC, then call out developers to produce power. 2) We can then take several of the best sites and give them to Kenyans to develop. Then the whole of Africa will never complain of power for the rest of their lives. Uhuru should be tasked with this, as he seems to know the Congolee quite well.
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Uhuru should be tasked and should fund. He has more money than Kenya
Congo is rich than people can imagine, only 5%of Congolese know the value of Congo
Hon. Sifuna, is a huge relief to important discussions and debates. He is ussue focused. Other participantsnwho are UDA minions are irredeemably obsessed with being petty and argumentive on unnecessary agendas, tied with Kenya Kwisha money.
Dr Khakwale I like you as surgeon and greater defender of Truth, please you must know that Tanzanians and Ugandans and even Somalia are in a better state than Us today. I feel without fear that there is horrible financial mismanagement in rtje system and unplanned use of monies
I like the way sifuna oozes wisdom
A mutura eating deputy president is tendering for sea food😂😂😂. Kuhara nayo
Khalwale . you are right, Clean the city, Get rid of the Matatus. Look at Dare Salaam. look at Kigali They have clean efficient transportation, Nairobi is disorganized. Matatus driving on the wrong side of the road. They pollute, I recall after Independance we had an efficient transport, Because of corruption nothing has been done. People deserve better.
Absolutely Sifuna is good in debate always very relavant in his argument, now Kenya kwanza is still blaming uhuruto government which they were part of. If you apply for a job you are always sure that you are capable there is no room for blame game, further more you were number two then surely you still blame hypocrisy of the highest order. What we need now is delivery you asked for the job you were handed the office deliver. We don't eat and live blame
Owino, refusing to accept okay next time when you loose don't refuse agree and move on. I promise you if you will be playing the tune of your master at the expense of those you would need to vote for you in future. You will loose we need you now talk on our behalf since you the one close to the number one. We are not seeing you being with us now. "a friend in need is a friend indeed'
Senator Sifuna, I'm proud of you! "Wewe ni moto wa kuotea mbali"
Why do media people let these guys get away with spewing lies? Check them on the spot. Raila was not in UHURUTO govt period. Ruto has gotten away with these lies for too long. You ran, you won, fulfil your promises. Stop whining.
Sifuna spitting facts and educating kk minions like small boys.
Sure... Genius
Sorry Sifuna. It is very easy to destroy. Brave words outside the ring.
Hon Sifuna has very good brain . Mheshimiwa you'll go far.
Sifuna is telling Kenyan the truth.
Of course everyone is telling their truth, political inclinations truth..Right!?😊
Khalwale lying that the government has stopped borrowing yet it is in the public domain that the current regime has borrowed 1 Trillion shillings in one year.
Like father like sons😅😅.. lies ruto is to b blamed for this!.. kwani hao maraisi wengine hawakua na madeni?? Na tax wanasanya daily inaendawapi????
I wonder how politician can defend the current hardship and blame on external factors..they proof that they are stupid and heartless
owino's greed for political relevance is really giving him sleepless nights, he needs to avoid debators of Sifuna callibre or else he'll crash land
I have liked and alluded to the comment made by this state officer owino and in deed the element of management and logistical aspects should be attended to the port railway roads and ITC, information & technical issues and on this by wherever means we ought to get it and improve in commercial scale and this should as well inform us that we are growing the demand of yester yrs are not for today as today are huge compared to the past.
😂😂😂😂 u are right Sen. Sifuna DP n mtu wa muturaa
Mad Respect Sifuna 9:51
Sifuna juggling Owino and Khalwale without struggling...just chuckling.
Ruto should call a national crusade for repentance 😂😂😂😂
Pia kenya kwanza wamekopa deni tena kubwa wakenya si wajinga munatumia pesa ya tax kutravel all over the world
Travor please don't ever embarrassed Owino like that next time to bring him with Sifuna. 😂😂😂😂😂 Sifuna is academic Juggernaut.
" private company trying to do business in kenya" Sifuna, you have talked. Western world is far a head in with introducing electrical vehicles and they are also facing a lot of challenges in the cost related to energy and other issues. Why should kenya import electricity vehicles before tackling the energy problem. Agriculture is our primary sector and it should be fixed before anything else. The consumers need to be empowered economically so that they can consume locally produced goods
Gachietha is placing an order for sea food yet " hii ni mtu wa mitura" Edwin Sifuna, Senator Nairobi and SG ODM Kenya, 21st September 2023. Cite that in your next econmics class
😂😂😂 this man Sifuna is a comedian.
Sifuna: Owino why do we need to protect votes?
Owino: Ati
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That got him off guard. This man Sifuna is too good.
He pretended not to have heard the question 😅😅😅.
By the way, why should votes be protected if we are putting in so much money into IEBC, those guys need to be jailed.
😂😂😂😂
Sifuna is a very funny guy🤣
Owino is really trying had to fit into the political space.
😂😂😂😂 hii ndo comment was looking for
Charles Owino is verbose to engage in a conversation with solution focused intelligent Sen Sifuna. We all know that corruption and wastage are responsible for financial haemorrhage of the hard earned taxes.
Every team kenya kwanza politicians talk they must mention last regime serikali had mm hua huwashangaa sana , so fuve yrs and you will still be blaming uhuru
They were still in that government yet they behave as saints
Charles just repeating on what khalwale said, he's got nothing upstairs.
Sifuna resonates with the people from the rest is only a o galorre of empty promises.
Owino is diluting the conversation with petty rhetoric over handshake whose role in ailing the economy he can't explain. We need brainy people to run Kenya
50:25 is my best part 😂 that genuine face 😂
UDA needs to hire MIGUNA to deal with SIFUNA HE IS HAVING A FIELD DAY WITH UDA PEOPLE
When o see this man Sifuna i always know that the debate will be with a lot of facts😂😂
Pertinent question, why does one need to protect the votes cast?
Owino is a very demented man. He cannot overcome the fact that he lost in the ODM primaries. He cannot go on without attempting to attack Baba.
He has no value to this debate.
Two KK guys against Sifuna and yet northing tangible from them çompared to what Sifuna is presenting! SIASA MBAYA MAISHA MBAYA! LET PEOPLE REPENT AND TURN BACK TO GOD!!
14:49 Ndii spoke the naked truth
This guy Owino is yet to shade off the Kenya Police uniform in his attitude😩
-35:50 speaks volumes...why do we need to protect our votes? If that isn't an admission of guilt then, we shall never get a clearer one.
The much hyped economic stimulus package by the bullfighter is better realized by reduction of 8% VAT on fuel. 14 bob on every liter of fuel will have a net effect both in collection of revenue and on the cost of living. The presidency also needs to be frugal and stop the hemorrhage veiled as thanksgiving as well as have Gachagua stick to mutura
why do these people continue mentioning Rwanda? I live in Rwanda petrol price is Ksh 185 @ litre for your information
Thank you😂
Even if 10 UDA fellows come to debate Sifuna, he will beat them 10 nil down.
At the end Trevor was looking an laughing at Khalwale wondering how foolish that man is.
How did this guy earn a doctorate degree..😅..big kudos to Sifuna super senator..the other one is an idiot..
Yaani, Gachagua ni jamaa wa mahindi choma na mutura halafu anataka kutukulia njaro na sea food? Awuoro!
I need to replay this . Ati khalwale have just said what is BRT ?🤭🤭
This guy is very intelligent for sure
Looking,hearing and understanding Khalwale plus Owino I know believe,'akili, nywele!'
Owino is mostly digressing and khalwale has no real ammunition to defend kk gvt. He can only sell us mirages. True sifuna wears many hats and changes gear on the situation. Infrastructure is key, before you rush to bring electric buses, motorcycles etc
* changes gear depending on the situation*
Countries that have adopted BRT have been well thought and implemented. Kenya should not rush to implement it haphazardly. What is the concrete plan of transfer from current motorcycles to electric??? No one says this!!!
The more i see this tye more i see our generation being stupidity 😢stipidity stupid 😅😅😅. Things happen. And things have to change😂.how we perform IS THE KENYA WE NEED!!
Khalale there os something which can be done . Owino doesn't understand any basic knowledge of the economy. Take him to cbc class on economy.
Useless former police spokesman, very useless.
True Mr Owino, Mr. Sifuna is now manning up!