What's BETTER... a Sub Contractor or a W-2 Employee?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2023
  • Every single job that I start, it all goes perfectly smooth in the beginning, and all the flaws come flowing in towards the end... this was a perfect example of that. The job started out great, but i was quickly able to see the organization of the sub I hired, and that all went straight to the garbage. The stereotype is true, based off his truck, I should have known he wasn't a good fit. At the end of the day, because it is my job site, I am 100% fully responsible for the outcome of this project. I will make sure the finished project is done correctly.
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  • @juanrivas494
    @juanrivas494 Год назад +61

    Jose should start his own company.

    • @dieselmex1808
      @dieselmex1808 Год назад +5

      Which Jose

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +20

      Obviously there's a reason Jose doesn't start his own business. Otherwise he would have done it.
      Jose won't be able to sell the jobs Tigren sells. Sales is a high skill, few have it, which is why most small contractors stay small.
      Tigren has all the connections : building developers, General Contractors building homes, Architects referrals, that T built up over time.
      Jose has none of that.
      Jose will make more money sticking with Tigren.
      Jose would take a major pay cut going out on his own for the first few years.

    • @ivanzepeda7713
      @ivanzepeda7713 Год назад +2

      ​@@siliconvalleylife2.048 experience and knowledge of the job and being to explain the job its self will sell better than any sales man I know that first hand if jose goes on his own this clown would go broke and he wouldn't have a clue what to do on the jobsite

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +6

      @@ivanzepeda7713 I hear you, but...
      Tigren plays dumb so we chumps post our criticism.
      Don't underestimate Tigren. You will lose that bet.

    • @ivanzepeda7713
      @ivanzepeda7713 Год назад

      @@siliconvalleylife2.048 stop hearing him out then

  • @latestart352
    @latestart352 Год назад

    I run a irrigation company in Florida. I appreciate your words. Ive learned Alot ao much more to learn

  • @k20909
    @k20909 8 месяцев назад +1

    The contract issue definitely blows my mind i can’t believe companies don’t always do it I’m just starting my electrical company and I do contracts for everything no matter how small it is I do it

  • @walterortega6370
    @walterortega6370 2 месяца назад

    Awesome keep up the good work. Helps a lot of people understand 👷‍♂️💵💵💵💵💵

  • @tavv2775
    @tavv2775 Год назад +5

    a good subcontractor like me prioritizes timelines

    • @Skyhawk656
      @Skyhawk656 4 месяца назад

      Yep! My first question on a project is "when do you need it done by"

  • @alcapony732
    @alcapony732 2 месяца назад

    Some of my guys are 1099 workers, I teach them how to invest an offset their tax liability. They also have the option to make more money as a full time employee. I have been with the same guys for quite some time now and I’m always on the job with them, we get it done faster and everyone makes more money

  • @rodarana2012
    @rodarana2012 Год назад

    Nice!

  • @LandscapeMaster33
    @LandscapeMaster33 11 месяцев назад

    *Tigrans the man. He's still learning the jam. But knows whats up lol.*

  • @sandt9452
    @sandt9452 11 месяцев назад

    Tigran, very informative tips to run a clean business, there is a reason why you are very successful. Sugestión, can you share a video of how is for a landscaper to work under 95-105 degrees of heat, tips for the youngsters.

  • @danielkofman4592
    @danielkofman4592 Год назад +7

    I got myself a sub. Damn good sandwich 😜

  • @brianvargas5432
    @brianvargas5432 Год назад +6

    A sub works harder than a w2 .

  • @nalgas5569
    @nalgas5569 Год назад +1

    I really like the way you think bro

  • @joseluisartiaga1874
    @joseluisartiaga1874 Год назад

    Thanks broo now i know why i have a 1099 on my returns an whos doing the frouad.!

  • @joedirt7553
    @joedirt7553 Год назад

    A sub! However, if the Sub does a bad job on a outdoor covered patio. It’s on you. The sub you don’t need to pay workers compensation. If the business gets bigger and have a ton of jobs, then I would hire someone. The sub can also have too many jobs.

  • @gamking7987
    @gamking7987 Месяц назад

    You forgot about how sometimes the subcontractor can be better than the company. Once, while I was working for a company on a patio project, a subcontractor on-site provided correct directions when the company failed to do so. Together, we solved the issue. However, when the boss arrived, he was furious about the potential loss of money and showed little concern for doing what was right. Taking responsibility, I informed him that the mistake was mine, which ultimately cost me a week's salary. Nevertheless, I decided to quit on the spot. If you're a homeowner, I strongly recommend hiring someone you can trust, as many companies prioritize profit over quality work and integrity. Remember, if you still care for humanity, always pursue what is the right thing to do, because it will eventually pay off."

    • @pneuma6421
      @pneuma6421 День назад

      This is why commercial beats residential every day of the week if you're a normal worker

  • @EvRyDayCarry
    @EvRyDayCarry Год назад +2

    W2 employee Only want to work 8 hrs and take multiple breaks , A Sub will work 8+ Hrs to get the job done

  • @willdamian1066
    @willdamian1066 Год назад

    T what kind of shirt do you have on? I’m placing a bulk order for the business I like the look of the white shirts

  • @siliconvalleylife2.048
    @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +11

    I don't use subs, unless absolutely necessary (plumbers-gas & electricians).
    If I need a sub I introduce them to the client and have the sub contract with the client. If the client insists it goes through my company, that's a 40% markup.
    Who ever pulls the building permit is liable.

    • @TheBUGZNTA
      @TheBUGZNTA Год назад +1

      Yup I do it the same way. I used to try and sub people out but 9/10 its not worth it. At most ill give the client a phone number and tell them its between them and the other contractor.

  • @Youngem_818
    @Youngem_818 18 дней назад

    Framing is just underestimated but why not do it your self ? 😂

  • @jeremythompson9430
    @jeremythompson9430 4 месяца назад

    Great vibe tho

  • @jeranueldelgado3053
    @jeranueldelgado3053 Год назад

    Do you do overtime for your guys?

  • @robbensalyers3318
    @robbensalyers3318 Год назад

    You made a choice to use a Sub; own it. Do you and or your Subs use prelien notices?

  • @bfaai
    @bfaai 9 месяцев назад

    where do you find contractors for your service business?

  • @christophervela5447
    @christophervela5447 Год назад

    Ey man
    My gf and I have watched your videos for a while now and really didn't ever think about contacting you.
    But some really stressful stuff has happened to our new home.
    Warranty is giving us some really horrible patch job option . We remembered you're a really fair and honest guy . Please help us with any opinion or advice 🙏
    Desperate
    Here from Texas
    I hope you see this
    Thanks

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +2

      Different building code laws and business laws in Texas vs California. Also landscaping is a C27 License in California, vs any work done on a house or in a house isn't covered by a C27 landscaping license.
      You'll want to look into your states contracting and consumer protection laws. Which will be different than California laws.
      Perhaps ask a contractor in Texas.

    • @noname-zi9xm
      @noname-zi9xm 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@siliconvalleylife2.048even tho I wasn't the one who asked thanks for the info

  • @buildingbengston
    @buildingbengston Год назад

    🔥

  • @DavidGomez-sd4qq
    @DavidGomez-sd4qq Год назад

    🐐

  • @joesubi
    @joesubi 4 месяца назад

    What if you find good subs just like you found good workers 🤔

  • @benjaminhershberger4650
    @benjaminhershberger4650 Год назад +1

    Californium you can’t trust anyone that is why you need contract

  • @jhernandez5977
    @jhernandez5977 Год назад

    Hi T, can you please hook up the contract information

  • @edgarv1405
    @edgarv1405 Год назад +1

    I’m surprised you guys only work 40hrs. Typically see construction people work 50+.

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +2

      Overtime in California is anything over 40 hours a week, then it's time and a half. Typically for residential construction you want to only work 8 hours not only to stay in budget for your business, but also for your clients family and the neighborhood your working in. The majority of residential contractors work 8-5.
      50 hours a week is common for commercial work, rare for residential work.

  • @JamesofJesus
    @JamesofJesus Год назад

    subs ruin business here. try to take too much and always compromise. i had to do the same when they pushed.

  • @latestart352
    @latestart352 Год назад

    Please put me in with the program

  • @user-xi9lu4jn8w
    @user-xi9lu4jn8w Год назад

    hey how do I get info in contracts I'm a GC in San Diego, I'm getting some decent jobs but I'm barely using contracts only if the client requires it. I treat m estimate and the conditions on there as a contract. I do use contracts, again only when the client asks for it. am I screwing muself?

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +3

      Your not a GC in San Diego. If you were you would know that contracts are required by law in the state of California.

    • @user-xi9lu4jn8w
      @user-xi9lu4jn8w Год назад

      @@siliconvalleylife2.048 yes I am. Don’t talk out of pocket you don’t know my business situation. I looked at the contract template he provided it’s nothing I haven’t used before. Nothing special. I do use contracts but on allot of my remodels I don’t. I have a contract always ready to e sign on standby it’s not that hard. Rocket lawyer is great app for that.

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад +1

      @@user-xi9lu4jn8w my apologies. I don't lift a finger without a contract.

    • @user-xi9lu4jn8w
      @user-xi9lu4jn8w Год назад

      @@siliconvalleylife2.048 no need to apologize Sr.
      Blessings in your business

    • @user-zl6lo5kf9w
      @user-zl6lo5kf9w 9 месяцев назад

      Let me know if you need help with anything! I’m a landscape contractor here in San Diego and can help you if u have any questions

  • @avo9029
    @avo9029 4 месяца назад

    im a framing contractor brotha, can i see your contract

  • @PeezyReacts
    @PeezyReacts 4 месяца назад

    hook me up with the contracts program please my guy

  • @romel6502
    @romel6502 11 месяцев назад

    Dang I live near you would be cool to meet you !!

  • @Landskatesea
    @Landskatesea Год назад

    T, I’ve been reaching out 6:53 (contracts) !!! Can you still do a hook up! I don’t have the money at the moment to do GOAT GANG. I Have 2 Girls a wife, Bills, Bills, Bills… you know ! I am the only one working due to expenses of child care. But I’m doing my best to survive. I save then something comes up takes away from my small (under the table) business I want/ Need to license& Insure. Need guidance… sky’s the limit ! Keep scaping T!

    • @TigranGertz
      @TigranGertz  Год назад +1

      The contracts program is $200 alone, if you join goat gang I give you the program for free, that is the hook up my friend

  • @Tacos888
    @Tacos888 Год назад

    Well. California hates 1099 lol

  • @skiillzn
    @skiillzn Год назад +1

    as a employee definitely W-2
    only go sub if u got a LLC so u don’t pay uncle sam

    • @stevemill8959
      @stevemill8959 Год назад +3

      Bro what? You still have to pay taxes if you own an LLC

    • @noname-zi9xm
      @noname-zi9xm 9 месяцев назад +1

      Lmao bro 😂😂😂 if only I could get an LLC and I'd be tax free I'd already be signed up

  • @reubs91
    @reubs91 Год назад +2

    Tigran is the perfect example of a narcissist.

  • @Dredugz
    @Dredugz Год назад +1

    Horrible explanation!

  • @Miniscapes515
    @Miniscapes515 5 месяцев назад

    Id take either or at this point. I cant keep help longer than a couple days. These kids cant and dont want to work hard.

  • @Landskatesea
    @Landskatesea Год назад +2

    Hi how are you T, my name is Kyle. I’ve been in landscape maintenance for the past 7 years as a crew leader .I just switched companies 8 months ago as landscape foreman and now I read design plans and do landscape installs. All we install is trees,shrubs,Boulders,rock,stepping stones,flowers, Mulch and turf. I have a love/Passion for this work. I currently live in South West Florida. You have been posting RUclips shorts saying to message your instagram for a free video to learn. I do not have access to instagram. Is there any way on this planet you could help me jump start my own business with this simple video please I believe it will change my life 🎉. This is my (3rd) attempt and many more to contact you personally through RUclips! Keep on scaping T !!!

  • @dariohabijanec4511
    @dariohabijanec4511 Год назад +1

    Hey! New subscriber here! I run a small landscaping company here in the UK. I'm really struggling to find people to work for me. You did inspire me to rent a unit to store all of my tools. £130 a month, 24 hours 7 days access with toilet and cctv, a huge unit. I'm about to buy my first van and a large rotavator! I'm proud but struggling to find people...any help or advice?

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад

      It all comes down to money, you have to offer enough to attract people towards your business.

    • @dariohabijanec4511
      @dariohabijanec4511 Год назад

      @Silicon Valley Life 2.0 I have 4 retirement homes that I look after and 18 private clients. I'm looking to bring someone in to look after them for me at £15 an hour while I concentrate on building up my new lawns and lawn restoration company. £15 per hour to someone who is half decent and new is good, training, opportunities to get involved in bigger projects and a growing waiting list. I haven't had a single applicant

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад

      Then you have to raise what you offer.
      Do this. Figure out how much rent costs for your workers, how much is a monthly food budget, automobile and insurance, medical insurance- basic living costs and add 20%. That's how much you have to pay.
      Here in Silicon Valley, San Jose California minimum wage is $15.00 per.hour. yet basic living costs commands $25.00 an hour.
      For us in the landscaping industry we have to pay $25.00 an hour to attract anyone willing to do this grunt work in the modern high tech age.
      Or get yourself a dumb girlfriend and have her work for you.

    • @siliconvalleylife2.048
      @siliconvalleylife2.048 Год назад

      @@dariohabijanec4511 $15 pounds is like $18.75 an hour here. No one, and I mean no one will work for less than $20 an hour here...
      Your pay is too low.
      Run an experiment, you don't have to actually hire anyone at first.
      Run ad's slowly raising how much you offer until applicants start calling. You get what you pay for.
      Right now your getting nothing because your paying nothing.

    • @dariohabijanec4511
      @dariohabijanec4511 Год назад +1

      @Silicon Valley Life 2.0 well I have an amazing wife who isn't dumb haha! I'm going to have to have look at it. I've grown over the last 2 years. Each level I get to, I try and maximise it to the point where I can no option but to move up or stay as I am. I want growth so I take it to the next level. I'm just stuck trying to move up another

  • @heostevelady
    @heostevelady 11 месяцев назад

    Not even trying to hate but u always say u pay a livable wage. These guys live in the bay u only work 40 hrs ? At 35 bucks an hr. Thats not a livable wage. Your ridding around in g wagons these guys are sharing a car. I make 165 to 185 k in ca and its not enough at times

    • @heostevelady
      @heostevelady 11 месяцев назад

      @@theone8978 ive had a lot of surgeries the past 2 cost a lot of money but im the sole provider of 4. My mortgage is 4600 plus 2 car payments insurances phones gas my groceries are almost 2 k a month. Im not hurting but what im saying is these guys are only getting 40 hrs at 35 bucks tops. I doubt there making 170k a yr and san jose is a little more pricey then where i live. These guys arent union so if they want medical or a retirement then theyre barley taking home anything

    • @rigobertoespinoza1685
      @rigobertoespinoza1685 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@heosteveladywait how do you even make it with 170k a year with 4500 mortgage must be a million dollar home. And why do you have 2 car payments? I also live in CA and me and my wife make about 300k a year barely making it 😅 no car payments.

    • @heostevelady
      @heostevelady 11 месяцев назад

      @@rigobertoespinoza1685 i guess u didnt read that im the sole provider of 4? So that means i have a wife and kids. 2 cars because my wife needs a car im not home much. I work 14 hr days. House little under 600 k. My point of all this is san jose is more expensive then where i live but i live in a pretty expensive area. I doubt this guy is paying them a living wage like he says

    • @rigobertoespinoza1685
      @rigobertoespinoza1685 11 месяцев назад

      I see idk im watching the video cause im looking to scale my small business and honestly you cant expect to make as much as the boss. If you have no clue what the cost of running a business is. Commerical insurance is no joke.

    • @heostevelady
      @heostevelady 11 месяцев назад

      @@rigobertoespinoza1685 and i totally understand that too. I opening a trade school in march of next yr. It takes money to make money i just hope he rakes care of them

  • @silentescape818xsfvla8
    @silentescape818xsfvla8 Год назад

    Yo momma tigran

  • @BobSmith-qn8gx
    @BobSmith-qn8gx Год назад

    All illegal immigrants