Tighnari Party or Alhaitham Party vs Boss & Spiral Abyss【Genshin Impact】
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ティナリはスキルでタゲ外せるのと弓キャラってのが地味に普段使いで良い
タル目線スキルで近づいてくる八重神子がもう恐怖
こうやって聞くとアルハイゼンの実戦紹介の曲って神曲ですよね!!
Tighnari is wonderful. I was actually pleasantly surprised that he was faster than Al Haitham. But this applies, of course, only against single targets, but still! I love this fluffy boy. I want C6 тзт
I think the real difference is Alhaitham does most of his damage from the mirrors which take a second. I don't think Tighnari is a better damage dealer.
@@kieragard he is
@@kieragard you could see the multi target in the abyss comparison
And tignari last floor was a kinda bad run, so tignari is better in both situations
@@nexuhs. arguably henna's rotation with tighnari team wasnt the best on the last floor yae miko's turrets expired also you dont want to do tighnari burst before you ca first (you do less dmg bc u arent getting em buff) so he wasnt spreading (4:34) and he finished only 1 second later than alhaitham
@@groguwiwi I think he is at C6, but Alhaitham is better at C0 imo. Also, Tighnari falls really short in comps outside of spread.
P.S. I just remembered that Alhaitham's damage is AoE while Tighnari is single target, which makes Alhaitham's overall damage significantly higher than Tighnari's. So, yeah, Alhaitham has a better damage output than Tighnari.
ティナリは他のキャラが数秒に渡って与えるダメージをスキル後の3連射で圧縮できているからあのダメージで倒せる敵や圧縮した後に他のキャラに仕事があるパーティだと強い(そして単体向き)
アルハイゼンは敵の数や耐久力に合わせて鏡の枚数を調整したりスキルや爆発を使わなくても元素攻撃したりできる。(単体が本領だけど複数戦もできる)
現状のコンテンツだとティナリのテクニックの6連撃+元素爆発を耐えられる敵がいないからその後のDPSダウンを気にしなくていい分ティナリが強く見える
so true
そもそもナヒーダいる場合単体、複数関係ないじゃない🤣？
@@user-jj8wd7kr8sそこが凸を重ねやすい恒常と限定の違いなんだろうね
@@user-jj8wd7kr8s ティナリって再PU来ない系?
@@user-jj8wd7kr8s 引きまくってる人からすると出やすいけど、無課金からするとーだね
So basically al haitham is the dendro version of childe in terms of effectiveness in group of enemies
Yeahhh!
And people complaining about skill cooldowns. Yes.
@@kirin1230 enabler/dps role and quick swap playstyle. yes
@@cloudykhushi The fact this is now a genre of characters is beautiful lmao. I love em both.
やっぱりEnablerの概念が浸透してるなあ
日本のコミュニティの多くはタルタリヤのことをアタッカーっていうのやっぱ良くないよ
ライトユーザー向けの初歩的な比較をするならティナリは初撃当てるのにエイムが必要 アルハイゼンは鏡とかCTに対して頭を使わなきゃいけない 手先か脳内か、得意な方に合わせるのが最善だと思う
親爺さんのように初撃あえて足元に外して使う方が早くて確実だけどね
Thighnari is the most fun dendro character kit wise
His charged shots are so satisfying and his ultimate ks also satisfying
Lost 50/50 to my first Tighnari (pleasantly surprised) and still managed to get Alhaitham with primos left. So this gives me an idea what both are capable of accomplishing 👍
ティナリ完凸は隙間時間に一瞬で超火力出して下がるサブアタみたいな感じだな
ハイゼンは範囲攻撃かつ高火力両立してて上手い具合に差別化できてる
Tighnari majorly underrated boss killer
Tighnari actually came into one of the tops once in the top speedrunning leaderboard in abyss by the CN community.
His talent is to dish out huge amount dmg in a short amount of time, which is something you need to win the speedrun leaderboard.
It must be because it was during his banner. Abyss usually favours the Character Event Banners.
@vanthursday Bruh currently alhaitham banner… what you going on about tighnari banner lol
You mean people pull alhaitham then go back in time to tighnari abyss period to compare? 😅 just accept that tighnari is strong
@@vanthursday I mean, I never heard of characters like Itto, Ayato, Yoi going on top speedrunning leaderboards.
Always the usual Ayaka, Raiden yada yada. The fact that Tighnari, a standard character, came on one of the top is already something. Not all banner characters take the lead in the leaderboard during their banners.
@@vanthursday dude
.. THIGH IS A STANDARD CHARACTER AND ITS ALHATAIMS BANNER LMAO
ぼくのしってるげんしんじゃない…
親爺「え、原神って十数万かけて登場したキャラを全員完凸させてタルタリヤを殺すためのゲームじゃないの？」
@@user-lo5ch1ft9k ???｢おれが犠牲になるよ｣
@@user-lo5ch1ft9k いやいや、十数万…？数十万の間違いじゃ…
@@KT-zf1kg 数百万…
@@山田犬郞 翻訳バグっててくさ
I’m thankful for having Tighnari
Its so good to see how everyone is praising tighnari now, I remember during leaks tighnari was being shitted by meta players for having too low base atk and for being a worse ganyu lol. How quick the time changes.
Tighnari/yae are just insane against single target fight.
どっちも良いところがあって、どっちもしっかり強い...やっぱり原神って神なんだなって思う。
あとどっちも同じ条件でしっかり検証してくれる親爺さんも神
ほんとに概要欄にある通り
敵単体だとティナリ、複数になるほどアルハイゼンに軍配が上がる感じ…
無凸同士ならよりその差がハッキリ別れそうと思いました( .. )"
ティナリは週ボスみたいな単体戦が得意で、アルハイゼンは複数と戦うのが得意だと思う
Тигнари хорош везде)
3週間前のコメントに返信するのもなんですが、アルハイゼンもどちらかと言えば単体向けですよね
@@t8767 если уметь обращаться хорошо с персонажем можно и одиночную цель победить и если их много тоже, причём с легкостью
@@t8767 ティナリと比べてアルハイゼンの方が範囲攻撃が多いかな…って印象だったので！！アルハイゼン単体戦でも全然強いですけどね🤔
@@user-yk4jc8gb3b 体感アルハイゼンは単体戦の方が強い感じです。確かにアルハイゼンの攻撃範囲は広いですが、前方のみに追撃なのでそうなると複数戦に強いとは言いづらいですね。ただ、ティナリとアルハイゼンしか持っていないと言う場合アルハイゼンを複数戦で使うでしょう。悪魔で比較した場合アルハイゼンは複数戦に強いというかんじだとおもいます
Alhaitham is really interesting and has beautiful animations. Especially the attacks that occur when NA'ing that have different animations with how many mirrors are activated. As for Tighnari. He only is usable in spread however he is so strong in single target dps that it just doesnt matter to me. Im glad i pulled tighnari since he is the character i had most fun with since Yelan
ティナリ本当に恒常キャラかよ
I love the comparison. Both great in a different way 😁👍
al haitham is very good in group of enemy like childe while tignari is good in solo boss in abyss and domains too
ティナリは瞬間火力ルーティーン型で、配膳は継続型の高火力って感じする
配るな笑
It's so awesome Tighnari's dmg is high
I would go for Tighnari
i feel that thignari powercreeps more of his c6 than alhaitham
Thank you for making this.
thank you i needed this
So Alhaithem shines more in multiple targets
Ppl thought he was dendro keqing, turns out hes dendro childe all along lol
That is the point. They both have different uses.
It's like comparing Diluc and Yoimiya or Yelan and Childe. One is better in single target, while one excels against groups of enemies.
@@vukkicos5688 how genshin community should have done while comparing characters instead of bias their mains
@@isthisayoutubechannel2277 I mean it is a videogame, most of the time is a bunch of kids with half a understanding of something screaming at each other
@@isthisayoutubechannel2277 I mean I main Tignari since his release and Al Haithaim is superior in any way. But idc I can beat the abyss with both of them👍
ティナリ…こんなんが恒常入りして本当に良かったんだろうか…
I love both, they're so fun, I actually thought alhaitham was gonna be kinda meh but he's pretty fun, i finally have someone else to fight abyss besides shogun and ayaka
ティナリは今後星座が進んでいく可能性もあるからねー
both were excellent, congrats! but my favorite is alhaitham. 🍃
マジでティナリのホーミングとか普段使いやすいんよな
I think this is the dendro version of Ayato vs Childe debate! All of them are super strong but one is great against a single target while the other is for groups of enemies.
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I mean ayato's aoe in general is better than childe's because it's off field and doesn't require enemies to be close to one another and his E has a weirdly huge range. i would actually argue childe might be better for bosses bc of the nuke
@@fluffy_magnus ayato has huge aoe but childe has quadratic scaling which makes him have better aoe dmg, so it kind of still goes to childe when it comes to aoe. As for ayato tho, I'd say he's much better on single target thanks to hyperbloom and burgeon (childe is pretty hard to manage in these teams).
Better comparison would be yoimiya vs diluc
@@maincheese7490 better ganti vs ayaka
すごい…
i lost 5050 on weapon banner, aiming for alhaitham sword, got a skyward sword instead. cool video. showed me tighnari is as strong as alhaitham just a different playstyle
Weapon banner isn't a 50/50, It's a 1 in 3 chance.
@@ravenger2445 holy fuck my first draw is a win thank you i got rid of the curse 🥲 i won my first time
@@ravenger2445 yeah but still weapon banner has it, but 7525 instead 5050
The only thing tho is that tighnari doesn’t work in bloom team and al hailtham strongest team is hyperbloom
I actually got both in 20 pulls i got skyward and alhaithams sword.
I'm f2p btw,so Needless to say i was over the moon.
I needed a Dendro DPS with my Yae Miko, so rolling for Alhaitham, I got bow user Alhaitham, so I couldn’t be happier.
Literally the best 50/50 loss I could’ve gotten.
True, but (we) still lost the 50/50...
@@ThommyTheThird but it’s not a bad loss.
Cuz I still got a Dendro DPS, and now, I’m SURE to win the next 50/50 cuz it’s not 50/50 next time.
I lost Al Haitham to Tighnari and fell in love with him and then pulled again for shits and giggles and got Al Haitham.
@@Drstrange3000 nice
I ALSO LOT AL HATHIAM TO DENDRO FOX but god I think I deserved it when I said “let’s pull for that dendro bitch” and I mean.. I got dendro 😂
ティナリパーティー自分のと一緒のはずなのに火力が全然違う……すごい。
Great vid! But ngl I’m surprised that your miko hit like a truck 👏
got them both and got al haitham's weapon, but dang, R5 and C6 are way too much for me when i can't even manage good artefacts T-T
thks for sharing the builds tho !!!!
This general damage out put is insane… poor raiden
I'm suprised that alhaitham can keep up with c6 tighnari in single target but also do extremely good in aoe.
とりあえず親爺さんは異次元である事を再確認しました😊
Honestly Im so happy that I pulled on Tighnaris Banner instead of hoping to get him via Standard
you all think it's just Tighnari & Alhaitham showcase, until you see Yae do 46k - 85k per E tick 💀
holy mama the way tighnari finished childe
Didn't expect fennec boy to do this well woah
Nice yae showcase
やっぱティナリ強いな普通にすり抜けでほしい
こんだけ強い強い騒がれてるアルハイゼンに並ぶ、状況次第ではアルハイゼンより速いティナリが恒常なのおかしい
I have tighnari and I absolutely love him!
今回の螺旋でやってみて欲しいです！
Pulled for Alhaitham, got my first Tighnari instead. Possibly the second best outcome. 🎉
haha this happened to me too. After watching this, no regrets at all.
Ha, that's exactly what happened to my back then
This was so fun to watch!
完凸だと敵が柔らかすぎて違いがわからなそう
Cool!! may i know your tighnari build??
The way Tighnari just cheesed the bosses. 💀
おティナリはとにかく使い勝手がいい。
他キャラとのスキル回しが安定して行える。デコイも優秀。スメル探索も便利。
弓キャラで打たれ弱いため、ボス戦等で攻撃を貰いすぎないように注意。
アルハイゼンはスキル発動中、継続的に火力が高くてスカッとできる性能。
でも鏡の管理とあまり長く使いすぎてると他のキャラのスキルがいつの間にか消えてる状態があるかもだから管理面で注意が必要。
スキルのクールタイムは長いけど崖登りや瞳探索の絶妙に面倒臭い所をショートカットできるのがありがたい。
長文失礼しました。
Lost 50/50 to Tighnari on Raiden banner. Got upset, but after trying him out realized that he is a great dps and now stayed in the main team
単体なら圧倒的にティナリだね
対複数だとアルハイゼンに軍杯が上がる
Нет, не только на одиночные цели)
単体ならティナリの方良くて集団戦寄りならアルハイゼン向きな気がする人によるだろうけど
そうですね、自分が思ったのは課金者だとアルハイゼン＝ティナリで無微課金だとアルハイゼン>ティナリだと思いました
3冠して厳選もそこそこしてる僕をこんな簡単に超えるなんて、、金は偉大だ
I honestly prefer losing 50/50 for Tighnari cons.. Now I only have him on C0 but he's soo easy to build and actually very f2p friendly since with a 3 star weapon he can already be strong enough (which is sharpshooter's oath, BCS Tighnari can make a full use of it's passive). But now that I got skywarp harp, it's a better option for him I had so far.
Other than that, his team need and rotation is easy to use. As long as you bring an electro character, , he don't need any other support anymore. Raiden and Yae Miko is the best option for electro slot since they have a great electro off field support. Fishcl is ok but pretty too slow to provide electro damage, her cons may fix her.
But of course to make this team better, just bring a healer and a shielder (better with any other dendro character for double resonance bonus)
FYI my Tighnari can kill a mirror maiden, fatui cicin mages and even hilichurl chieftain even faster than my any other dps. His skill helps a lot! He usually doesn't take any damage. I can solo Alzdaha domain with his team now. Thanks to him
Okay- imma write down to get Nahida one day. I mean she's my 2nd favorite archon- but it seems like she's an amazing support for nari and hammy. I do regret/is sad about not getting her. But I had someone else I wanted
恒常キャラのティナリが限定キャラのアルハイゼンに張り合えるのがまずやばい。
ヒント
単体.複数
螺旋のマッシュラプトルは森林4鍾離先生のおかげで草激化パのかもになった
ここまできたら変わらん😂
I like the way Nahida just prays 😭😭😭
このぐらいになりたい..！
今日通常引いてティナリ出たから助かる
I didn't go for alhaitham since my tighnari is already pretty good man I want him c6 already
ティナリの戦闘気持ちいいなぁ
やっぱりティナリも強いですね。
アルハイゼンも強いけどティナリもすごいと思った通常だから弱いと言う概念を壊してくれる動画だなと思った
一年越しやけども、召使戦にティナリがまじ優秀よね。追撃全部当たる。
配膳復刻おめでと
これを見て思うのはやっぱり原神って好きなキャラ使えばええんやなって...
I don't care which one is the better spreader. I put them in on team with yae and albedo, easy 36 star abyss. It's fun seeing the numbers pop off everywhere. All c0 btw
故マッシュラプトル「僕一応草元素耐性あるんっすけどね...」
ティナリは精鋭狩りで使ってるけどなんも考えんでもいいのが楽。てか恒常キャラだし十分すぎる
出ないもん……ティナリ出ないもん…!!
@@user-qm1kz1de2u ティナリ四連続すり抜けてる俺が通るぜ
@@user-xc8ti7uq7z いいもん…アルハイゼン来たもん…
Tighnari, the only standard 5* that I want to get C6
The only things about videos like these, especially this one, is each main Dendro character is C6 so their damage is automatically more consistent. Like with Tighnari, at C6 he has almost no wait time for charged shots. So his damage is INSANE. It’s still a cool video and I plan on watching more, but I kind of wish to see more “relatable” damage numbers for those like me who hardly have constellations for 5 stars
I’m a f2p player and I got very lucky with getting raiden and tagnari, i started playing 3 months ago during cynos banner. Raiden I got on 20 pity and I got tagnari from a random 1 pull on the standard banner. They have made my life so much easier there even underlevled and still disroy everything. Pared with Yaoyao and Xingqiu. My new team is honestly great I’m very proud of how far I’ve come
I got 2 skyward pride from my standard banner and both were around 70+ pulls. I have been playing for around 4 months. I can't believe my bad luck. Not only i got back to back 5 star weapons but i got the exact same one
@@soumojitchowdhury151 I heard that there's some kind of unwritten rule to balance out 5 star items in standard banner so your next 5 star will almost certainly be a character
@@kasala965 again i got skyward blade instead of skyward pride this time. Back to back weapons
@@soumojitchowdhury151 it's possible to get two weapons in a row, but every 270 pulls on standard must have at least one 5 star character and one 5 star weapon. It's super hard to get that many acquaint fates for f2p though :/
@@kasala965 i got 3 back to back.
は、はやすぎる…
The amount of em and Cr/Cd ratio on Al_Hetham ❤
I really like alhaitham's style and gameplay
But I think teghnari is way better DPS wise
Alhaitham is more of a driver I think
Just I expect tighnari finished more fast than al haitham, and tighnari playstyle more fun
I use tighnari since his banner launched 🥹 now i am switching to Alhaitham soon felt betrayed
alhaitham is amazing both in single target and multiple target!
I was just waiting for the c6 show offs
wahh both are really amazing dps .. one day ill build my tighnari "-"
タルタリヤ戦一瞬すぎて吹いてしまった
私も原神ってゲームしてるけどこの動画見て違うゲームだって事に気づいた
People aren't even talking about his Yae's amazing damage.
Yeah like she was doing 45k-80k+ like nothing
I have her weapon with crowned talent 60/200 and make around 15K 😢
Yae only do this dmg with constellations (like the difference btween C0~c2 Baal), C0 its close to Fishl even w/her signature weapon (less dmg than Beidou c6, but easiest to play).
Yae c0 still bad compares to another chara, really need kazuha and nahida to max her dmg
Forget Tighnari and Alhaitham, that Yae Miko is on steroids
今日楽団のスコア52.9出たからティナリ育成するか
もはやそれ以前な気がするwwどっちが強いか分からんw
アルハイゼンは単体でも複数でもどっちも強くていいね
砂塵を起こさせてもらえない鳥さん可愛そう
八重強すぎ()