DOCTOR WHO | 12x9 | Ascension of the Cybermen | Series 12 Episode 9 | REACTION

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2024

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  • @NotAgnor
    @NotAgnor 6 месяцев назад +9

    I feel like Chibnall gets way more hate than he deserves, most of his episodes aren’t bad imo (though some definitely are), they’re just fine. There’s a couple standouts and I think it gets better over time but it’s overall just an okay era to me

  • @friendlyotaku9525
    @friendlyotaku9525 6 месяцев назад +7

    The stuff with Brendan will make more sense in the next episode! I personally love the Cybermen so this episode is a lot of fun for me though it is very much setting stuff up! Also you can just tell 13 is thinking about Bill as she's trying to protect her friends, she doesn't want them to end up the same...

  • @joshuajoshua2732
    @joshuajoshua2732 6 месяцев назад +2

    It's one of those episodes you have to watch over and over again to fully understand the whole Brendan scenario when i first saw this as much as i enjoyed the episode for me i wouldn't say i wouldn't care but i did have a worry where this was going and i couldn't fully get what was going on but you do get the answers in the next episode.
    I found the flying cybermen heads and Ashad torturing a cyberman pretty grim and dark actually.
    I also have to say i love the newly redesigned cybermen there's a mix between the 2006 version and the 1980's version.
    I loved the Master's entrance at the end in this as over the top as he can be sometimes you just have to put disbelief aside and just have a good time with it.

  • @riverrosenberg3776
    @riverrosenberg3776 6 месяцев назад +2

    Possibly one of my fave cyber men episodes. They are so incredibly menacing throughout, led by Ashad. Just well done.
    Brendon is a very interesting side plot. I really really like the actor.

  • @matthewpreston28
    @matthewpreston28 6 месяцев назад +3

    Jodie is great at dark and serious roles

  • @roguetwo7949
    @roguetwo7949 6 месяцев назад

    My favourite episode of the 13th Doctor. I wish she was written like this more. I love seeing the more serious side of her 😟

  • @leonardochapman4736
    @leonardochapman4736 6 месяцев назад +13

    I think the side plot about Brendan was quite well done in this episode, and Jodies acting was pretty good too
    overall a good episode and a good reaction, I'm interested to see what you think of the next one

  • @DBarkz-uz9ym
    @DBarkz-uz9ym 6 месяцев назад +2

    *Sitting here eagerly awaiting the reaction to The Timeless Children.* - This is going to be rough.

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +3

      Won’t be this week. Taking the weekend off, sorry :)

    • @DBarkz-uz9ym
      @DBarkz-uz9ym 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@HamzaReactz Don't worry you deserve it haha.

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@HamzaReactzYou'll need it for what's coming next 😞

  • @tomfxq633
    @tomfxq633 6 месяцев назад +3

    I’m itching for the next video

  • @josephryan362
    @josephryan362 6 месяцев назад +1

    I this episode of doctor who is one of my favourite Jodie Whittaker episodes and I love Jodie Whittaker in this amazing episode of doctor who

  • @chanceneck8072
    @chanceneck8072 6 месяцев назад

    Yes, I agree with the other folks who complained about her not being serious enough.
    I basically felt like there could never come ANY danger from this Doctor. Declared hater of weapons. Her line delivery felt like exposition SO often. She has no GRAVITAS. If you know what that means. She never felt menacing. I can only point at a few lines where I could actually feel some heart of the character flow into them. One being the "you ask too many questions!" from the Fugitive episode. I loved that one. I could actually feel the Doctor again right there. She has issues with her past and she doesn't wanna talk about that! Great, I've been there! That actually showed some CHARACTER of her.
    Other times she's mostly just either exposition or clown-Doctor.. .

  • @space1999
    @space1999 6 месяцев назад +1

    The timeless children 😢😢😭😭

  • @thesimpsons17
    @thesimpsons17 6 месяцев назад +5

    'I just don't care anymore'
    That really resonated with me, sometimes I think I'm too harsh on this era, maybe I should rewatch. I'm sure there is lots of good stuff in there. But once you've stopped caring it's very difficult to find that passion again. It's not that I necessarily hate these episodes I'm just not invested in the show in the same way I was previously. So it gets to the point where you're almost going in with the expectation of disappointment, and that's tough to overcome!
    Think that one sentence really summed things up for me

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +4

      I’m the same way atm. Don’t hate it, just have no interest in this current DW :)

    • @Doctor_What63
      @Doctor_What63 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@HamzaReactz honestly I reached that point with this era when it came out, still watched it and found parts of it I enjoyed, I just didn’t care as much as I used to

    • @modboyhenry1
      @modboyhenry1 6 месяцев назад +1

      I was the same about this era some things I enjoy but not a fan of this era.

  • @flowersrainbows9703
    @flowersrainbows9703 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love all dalek episodes with jodie , cybermen are amazing to me, I love the master and capt jack , Judoon return, pretty much everything I liked about Jodies doctor

  • @rtaylor7384
    @rtaylor7384 6 месяцев назад +4

    Get ready for the next episode but the master is right everything is going change now for the Doctor and everything you thought you knew about the Doctor

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад +6

      *Painful flashbacks intensify*

    • @Ericiswaiting
      @Ericiswaiting 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@darkwolf7740spoilers dont look down hamza
      That episode would have been fucking great if it wasn’t for the twist

    • @jingtroc23
      @jingtroc23 6 месяцев назад +3

      Everything he thought he knew about the doctor was canon for decades though🤷🏿‍♂️. What's about to change was not necessary at all. And it destroyed Who, hence the current retcon happening.

    • @CrankyGrandma
      @CrankyGrandma 6 месяцев назад

      Gosh, guys…. Hazma has a thing to click before typing where he says NO SPOILERS. I hope he’s an episode ahead. Just wait a day or so

    • @charg1nmalaz0r51
      @charg1nmalaz0r51 6 месяцев назад

      @@Ericiswaiting honestly the storyline would have been fine if it wasnt so poorly executed with a little bit more respect for the past. That and the fact it goes pretty much unresolved anyway which seems like a double low blow

  • @matthewpreston28
    @matthewpreston28 6 месяцев назад +1

    Probably have to watch it straight away as its such a big episode

  • @CrankyGrandma
    @CrankyGrandma 6 месяцев назад +2

    The scenes which didn’t have anything to do with the story were my favorite parts too… I wondered what the heck it was and how it connected with the story. As far as the doctor not being serious… it’s not that she can’t be serious it’s that the flashes of “heck, she can be deadly and don’t mess with her” isn’t there, or is rarely there. It’s a lack of “presence” in a way. But in other aspects she is very the doctor. I freaking loved the timeless child bit… initially no but as I thought about it I ended up loving it. Hope you do too. I kinda want a spin off with Brendan the police officer who seems to survive falling off cliffs.
    Dang you are going through all this fast!

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah but not every doctor needs that. Especially not this one, when you consider 12s last words :)

    • @CrankyGrandma
      @CrankyGrandma 6 месяцев назад

      @@HamzaReactz True. Until I watched your reactions and read comments here, I didn’t consider 13 being born of 12 really

    • @armin0427
      @armin0427 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I feel like it's not about having dark moments or not, just that the way it's put together don't make them impactant enough.
      10 and 11 had dark serious moments with the scene, score and pacing highlighting it, or the context making it more impressive, while most 13 dark moments just don't seems to be recorded and edited at a similar scale. It quickly feels like a regular dialog scene with Jodie shouting instead of a slower / darker moment

  • @medafan53
    @medafan53 6 месяцев назад +1

    13 to me calls to mind 11, in both cases the Doctor does often come off as an overgrown child, with that same youthful overexcited energy, but then there are moments where that slips and you can very much see the anger underneath.

  • @Doctor_What63
    @Doctor_What63 6 месяцев назад +4

    Oh look another Master/Cyberman episode… here we go haha
    I find those Cyber Drones naff lol.
    Nice to see the RTD Cybermen pop back tho. And I love the design of the Cyber Warriors at the end

    • @Doctor_What63
      @Doctor_What63 6 месяцев назад +2

      Also - did anyone get why Ashad tortured the new Cybermen? Also with however many on board there’s no way he had time to do all of them…

    • @friendlyotaku9525
      @friendlyotaku9525 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@Doctor_What63 this is explained in The Timeless Children

    • @Doctor_What63
      @Doctor_What63 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@friendlyotaku9525 ah cool, must have forgotten, will rewatch 🫡

    • @wolfmacleod
      @wolfmacleod 6 месяцев назад

      It’s classic who cybermen in the ship not RTD era

    • @Doctor_What63
      @Doctor_What63 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@wolfmacleod huh? The two Cybermen that accompany Ashad from the start of the episode are RTD era, as are the flying cyber head things…
      The new Cybermen aren’t classic either, the head is clearly influenced by the Invasion Cybermen and the body is almost identical to the Moffat era Cybermen but with spikes on…

  • @JeremyDuncan
    @JeremyDuncan 6 месяцев назад +11

    Yeah, I like to give Chibnall as much credit as possible (considering he kept doctor who afloat during a pandemic), but if you compare his work to RTD or Moffat, it's just evident they both had/have a much more concrete plan for where they are taking their series than Chibnall does. However, Series 13, Flux, Is Chibnall's best. You might not like what's about to be revealed, but there is still some merit in the rest of Jodie's run.

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +3

      Well it depends what’s going to be revealed. It could be bad enough that I don’t feel like watching more. Not saying that’s the case. But if I really dislike it that’s a possibility. Hopefully not :)

    • @DiamondFire
      @DiamondFire 6 месяцев назад +14

      @@HamzaReactz 💀💀I ain't stuck around this long just to see you stop at S12 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @itsalexney
      @itsalexney 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@HamzaReactzplease continue on. Even though some things may change I REALLLLY liked FLUX. 😅

    • @charg1nmalaz0r51
      @charg1nmalaz0r51 6 месяцев назад +3

      i dunno, flux was better but it was a complete mess of a storyline

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@charg1nmalaz0r51More enjoyable... yes... at times. A mess? Most definitely 💀 even the script for Flux contradicts itself. Literally, the Flux script is available online and frequently contradicts itself.

  • @rebeccaburgess8710
    @rebeccaburgess8710 6 месяцев назад

    Intrigued to see your next video. I understand your loss of interest I felt the same way. Hope you can re find your love in future episodes

  • @dtw_1995
    @dtw_1995 6 месяцев назад +1

    In fairness, if you're interested in the Fugitive Doctor and the Timeless Child you're focused on the main plot of the season. So don't feel too worried about not being hyped over the smaller stuff!

  • @MetalPharoah
    @MetalPharoah 6 месяцев назад +4

    The Timeless Child split the fandom. Half ok half not. It was originally from a 1980s Doctor Who story that Chibbs liked and adopted it, where all 3 New Who showrunners actually did like it as well.

    • @phantomquartz0586
      @phantomquartz0586 6 месяцев назад +1

      Are you in the OK half or NOT half?

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад +3

      I mean, the 80s episodes you're referring to played it out as a joke at the time. They didn't take the plot line seriously, and never went back to it.

    • @musicron2740
      @musicron2740 6 месяцев назад +1

      saying half is making a pretty gross assumption

    • @MetalPharoah
      @MetalPharoah 6 месяцев назад +1

      @musicron2740 I know it was a vocal minority against it like how loud Trump supporters are, but it's close to truth

    • @MetalPharoah
      @MetalPharoah 6 месяцев назад +1

      @phantomquartz0586 I'm in the Doctor Who is always evolving, always changing, so I won't let anything deter me from enjoying the show. When Jodie was announced TONS of people told me to stop watching because a woman couldn't be Doctor Who. That's their opinion, not mine. I'm only one person, not a group or majority, so my thoughts are my own as yours are your own.

  • @sallyatticum
    @sallyatticum 6 месяцев назад

    I had all kinds of theories about Brendan and the Lone Cyberman... mostly wrong.
    I am one who doesn't mind the Timeless Child arc. Peter Capaldi complained that they had answered too many questions about the Doctor. He thought the Doctor should be mysterious, as it is called Doctor WHO, after all.
    This reintroduced mystery.

  • @HudsonMedia
    @HudsonMedia 6 месяцев назад +2

    I feel the problem with this episode is two things. It’s all just predominantly set up so in a vacuum the story kind of has no rewatchability. And considering all it’s about is The Doctor and co getting to a portal. They do very little to make it exciting.
    They mention “cyber wars” and nothing in the story quite keeps that weight.
    A smaller nitpick is the amount of clunky dialogue where people just say exactly what’s infront of them is just a hard thing to unsee for me 😅
    I look forward to the reaction to next episode. I would have thought you’d not like it but we’ll see.

  • @MeidasWhovianAdvocate
    @MeidasWhovianAdvocate 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yep

  • @carsforever4002
    @carsforever4002 6 месяцев назад +1

    0:38 she played Ruby in SJA Goodbye Sarah Jane pretty cool to see her here
    I really love the RTD Cyberman design a lot more so I’m glad to see them here

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for telling me :)

    • @carsforever4002
      @carsforever4002 6 месяцев назад

      @@HamzaReactz No problem! Loving your reactions!

  • @DWaDDLJ
    @DWaDDLJ 6 месяцев назад

    I really enjoyed the brendon scenes as well... the irish aesthetic as well were beautiful...
    Same as u... i didn't really care about the cyberman story or the side characters involved with that plot... though i kind of wished they didn't put these two plots together as they have no real thematic parallels... one of those plots wud have been better suited for the next ep...
    Regarding 13 being serious... oh yeah she can be... its just never feels earned... never really questioned or learnt from...or reflected on... we had at least three instances this series that i can think of on top of my head... orphan 55 end, the haunting of that place ep and this ep...all scenes of her shouting at her companions... none of whom are really in the wrong with any of those scenarios and don't really get to call her out either... only once does Yaz say to her about not talking to Ryan like that... but again... nothing earned or interesting or leaving you with Goosebumps... the way 9, 10, 11 and 12 serious stuff did... you cud feel that they wud end the universe with a look.... and that's not a dig on Jodie, she did fantastic with what she was given.. i just don't feel the moments she's serious are earnt naturally through the plot...
    Anyway close to the end.... hard to say if you will like it or not.... cos some people really love it ... others don't... im still keeping schtum.. will say carry on after even if you don't like it... literally only 10 eps... with some fun ones...

  • @bananasaregood8655
    @bananasaregood8655 6 месяцев назад +1

    Are you're classic who reaction coming back after this series? or are you gunna push ahead with series 13 (flux) next?

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gonna be watching series 13 :)

    • @bananasaregood8655
      @bananasaregood8655 6 месяцев назад

      @@HamzaReactz ok thats cool, I'll be interested to see you're reactions and hear you're thoughts. Its only 6 episodes if i remember right, think it was cut down due to covid

  • @jennifermorris6848
    @jennifermorris6848 6 месяцев назад

    I thought the Brendan stuff was really important and we weren’t picking up on something. About near the end. Just before he retired I realized the other people weren’t aging. And the clock made me think timelord fob watch. I didn’t know what it meant so I re watched it - ignoring all the other plot. But Brendan didn’t regenerate. So I doubted my conclusion.

  • @DiamondFire
    @DiamondFire 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love this episode so much.
    The next one, is a powerpoint slide show. I like all the ideas in it but think its executed terribly lol. The next special & S13 I enjoy much more (even if its a bit of a cluster fuck)

  • @Tejiknasten
    @Tejiknasten 6 месяцев назад +1

    This season has its ups and downs. The good episodes are really good, as Spyfall and Villa Diodati. Then there's episodes like this. I like the Doctor, though. It's the writing of the rest that's a bit awkward.

  • @matthewpreston28
    @matthewpreston28 6 месяцев назад

    Prepare for something amazing about Brendan

  • @arch1017
    @arch1017 6 месяцев назад

    I think I'd have preferred to focus more on the Cyber Wars and the Lone Cyberman. Humanity driven to the brink, and Ashad attempting to revive the Cybermen is interesting and different - everything else didn't really do anything for me.

  • @MrHighlifewest
    @MrHighlifewest 6 месяцев назад

    Im not going to give any spoilers here but i tell you what how you felt at this stage is exactly how i felt at the time of this story airing. I am a life long fan since 1999 ( was born 1996) but there was somethjng about this series that wae not giving me the energy or excitement it normally would. Bear in mind ive watched the entirety of classic who wnd loved it ( please do the same) but this series for some reason i really coukdnt get on with. But fast forward to present day i tell you what i am more oassionate about the franchise as a whole than ever. I just feel this period was a bleak era sorry jodie.

  • @KeithAndrewPGbiz
    @KeithAndrewPGbiz 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm surprised at your reaction at this one - I absolutely love this as the start of a finale. I fear you may be racing through seasons too fast?

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +5

      I’ve been doing other seasons at the same pace. Was never an issue then. Doing 2 episodes a day isn’t rushing it :)

    • @KeithAndrewPGbiz
      @KeithAndrewPGbiz 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@HamzaReactz Yeah but, you're now like 12 seasons in. That's a lot to take in in one go. This ep in particular had a lot of people scratching their heads for the full seven days. I think I watched it a good 4 or 5 times that week. :-)

    • @HamzaReactz
      @HamzaReactz  6 месяцев назад +3

      Not been taken in one go. Had breaks in between. Days off, spin off shows, classic who. How much I’m watching doesn’t affect it. What matters is how good the story is :)

    • @KeithAndrewPGbiz
      @KeithAndrewPGbiz 6 месяцев назад

      @@HamzaReactz Fair dos. I genuinely love this ep. Watched it with the Full Fat Videos guys and then we recorded a podcast immediately after just speculating about the next ep. Good times. :-)

  • @phantomsidious2934
    @phantomsidious2934 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why did she park the TARDIS so far away from the humans? Why not appear where they are, get them on board and leave? Oh, it's because the episode can't happen that's why. Again more audio descriptive dialogue all over the place...

  • @ConnorEllisMusic
    @ConnorEllisMusic 6 месяцев назад +3

    Don't worry about it. You'll get through this bad bit of Who and then get the 60th Anniversary

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад +3

      If need be, use a shovel to dig your way through the mud

    • @joshuajoshua2732
      @joshuajoshua2732 6 месяцев назад +1

      The 60th anniversary is just as bad apart from 1 episode.

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@joshuajoshua2732The 1st special was ok, the 2nd was great, and the 3rd was good... apart from the last ⅓.

    • @charg1nmalaz0r51
      @charg1nmalaz0r51 6 месяцев назад

      @@darkwolf7740 The 1st special was plain awful, the second was very good although predictable and the third was ok. Had a rubbish ending for all the build up. I'm not too concerned with the lore change i just think it was unnecessary because the guy wasnt confident with his casting of the next doctor, seemed like a get out of jail card for rtd if it went tits up and i felt really bad for the incoming doctor because of it. Thats the best i could do without spoiling anything lol

    • @darkwolf7740
      @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@charg1nmalaz0r51To be honest, the 1st special, though I found it ok, did disappoint and frustrate me at times (you probably know which 2 scenes I'm referring to) with all the hype with the trailers leading up to the specials. I thought it would epic. It wasn't.
      I'm also not a fan of what they did in the 3rd special. Doesn't make much sense, and it seems like pure plot convience. If you think about it logically for 5 minutes, it all falls apart. That said... it was the only issue I had with the special. Only slightly affected my rating of it.

  • @darkwolf7740
    @darkwolf7740 6 месяцев назад +1

    I personally liked this episode, but I understand where you're coming from. Probably the best episode of the series for me, which isn't a very high bar, lets be honest.

  • @thesarcasticsimmer1383
    @thesarcasticsimmer1383 6 месяцев назад +1

    Personally , this episode got better upon rewatch , but this is very much a set up /filler episode for the next episode.

  • @deathswitch2404
    @deathswitch2404 6 месяцев назад

    Even if you dont like the ending of the next episode and considering not continuing, id suggest watching the new year special anyway. Cant promise youll enjoy it but its better than most of the eps this season imo

  • @yorkshirespider-man
    @yorkshirespider-man 6 месяцев назад

    Get ready for everything to change next episode… and for me not in a good way

  • @JB-hq4il
    @JB-hq4il 6 месяцев назад

    I think this era up to where you are can be summed up in my opinion as “I just don’t care”. Which for a watch through where you know Doctor Who continues and there’s an end to this era is sad, but manageable. As a fan who didn’t know how long it would go on for or if Doctor Who would even get another series it did enhance a lot of emotion in those unengaged - which then in turn made fans of this era angry fear it would be taken from them. Weird days!

  • @malcy86
    @malcy86 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Brendan/Gardai stuff is by far the lowest the show has ever sunk for me. Absolute garbage.

  • @space1999
    @space1999 6 месяцев назад

    Your comments are mostly what people think.... you are joining most of the other reactors and most of fandom...

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 6 месяцев назад

    This part is fine but its linked the THAT episode that os so insulting to the entire history of the show.

  • @dmorgs07
    @dmorgs07 6 месяцев назад

    It’s a mess. It just doesn’t hand together… and the finale is much, much worse

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 6 месяцев назад

    This series is the worst series in the history of the show…mid is too kind 😂