Project HEXA Part 1: The 45 minutes of the Tarot FY690S
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- Опубликовано: 1 янв 2016
- January 2016 - we are still working on our HEXA project and as we progress, we decided to share a bit for now.
Part 1: the 45 minutes of the Tarot FY690S.
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Unfortunately it didn't last much longer as the flight controller decided to turn of the motors while flying! More details on
that will be shared in the next part as we take a closer look on the Tarot ZYX-M which we used.
We did the maiden flight and some testing as we could.
Components for a medium sized AP Hexacopter:
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Frame: Tarot FY690S Full 6 Axis Folding Rack Carbon Fiber Frame (TL68C01)
www.banggood.com/Tarot-FY690S-...
Motors: 6x Tarot 6S 380KV 4008 (TL68P07)
www.banggood.com/Tarot-6S-380K...
ESC: 6x Hobbywing XRotor 40A APAC Brushless ESC 2-6S For RC Multicopters
www.banggood.com/Hobbywing-XRo...
Props: 3x Tarot 680 PRO TL2829 T Series 1355 Carbon Fiber CW CCW Propellers
www.banggood.com/Tarot-680-PRO...
FC: Tarot ZYX-M Flight Controller & GPS Module & PMU Module & USB Module ZYX25
www.banggood.com/Tarot-ZYX-M-F...
Retracts: Tarot TL65B44 Small Electric Retractable Landing Gear Set For 650/680/690 (TL65B44)
www.banggood.com/Tarot-TL65B44...
OSD: Tarot OSD Module ZYX-OSD TL300C with two-way video input For Multicopter
www.banggood.com/Tarot-OSD-Vid...
Questions and comments below 
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Wooooow!
nice project...success well done..
Making one too....
Have fun and all the best for your Project- we are still in Progress - the weather is just to bad for flying.
Awesome build..I was thinking about waiting on the foldable landing gear but after seeing that its just to awesome! How do you like the multistar batteries? I have the same motors on the way and I bought some tattu 5200's but the tattu 10aH is about 200 usd vs the multistar at 100. I dont mind spending the 200 bucks but if I can get 2 instead of just one that'd be great lol. My current/power requirements may be different than yours and Ill have to test it, as Im going to be spinning 15-17 in props and lifting probably around 3-5kg on a 850. But quality-wise would you recommend the multistar batteries?
Hi David,
I honestly cant tell if the Multistars are that great, but I fly the smaller ones a lot. however, I think its the best you go figure for your requirements. It met up to mine but I didn't get that far :D ... But we'll see on that later/next year :) So, for my wings I cant complain (3s3000 and 3s5200 10c)
I will have to do that, thanks for the reply! I may check them out once I get some current measurements with my max auw.
+David Schallock let me know how it went for you
i'm still staying tuned ^^
And I’m not finished - #vacationmode #prettyfaraway
@@JustFPV-net i admit it, my hexa isn't finished either :D #chinashippingmode
It takes the time it takes ;-)
@@JustFPV-net okay mein hexa fliegt! ich bin überglücklich, aber brauch noch EINEN ratschlag: habt ihr irgendwelche empfehlenswerten velcro straps? ich hab schon einige geschrottet und brauch irgendwelche richtig großen und eben stabilen... und weiß nicht wo ich schauen soll
@@mircoheitmann gute Frage ... wie breit und wie lang benötigst Du sie?
I bought this frame, these motors and these ESCs. It is a good choice for an helicopter with 3500g (total load)?
Hi there, Samuel - I think this will do allthough I've not loaded mine that much so far. But things are in progress and the latest tests wasnt a 100% - I'll still on that. Good luck with your hexa
Hi, can i use "Sunnysky X4108S 380kv" or "SUNNYSKY V3508 380 kv" motors with FY690s frame? If yes, which one is better with 1355 props?
First of all: i'd say YES you can. But "which motor is better?" depends on the stats of the motor ... have a look at sunnysky's web page and check which motor sucks the least Amps which giving the most Thrust with 1355 props.
What is major difference between Tarot 680 Pro and Tarot 690s? Other than Power distribution pcb?
The 680 pro seams a bit better from the concept. While the 690s is like “hm how do I attach this?” The 680 pro feels like “ah ... ok there we go”
;-) that’s how I felt about it
@@JustFPV-net Great explained in one line. Tons of thanks
@@MrNams my pleasure :)
bravo joli drone ( monstre !!! ) @ bientôt
Thank you, Thierry
Tu as mis quoi comme gain ( naza ) ?
Cant tell ... its using the Tarot ZYX Flight controller
ok moi j'ai déjà un naza v2 ( dji ) monté sur un f450(dji ) mais pour la vidéo c'est pas top !!! et je voudrais faire comme toi ...un Tarot FY690S ( love ) @bientôt
@@airwavetiti Take the Flight controller that YOU are involved with- dont take the Tarot ZYX ... there are better solutions around I guess. And yes ... the Tarot Fy690s is lovely :) but today I would go for something better: Ironman 650 or even ALTAIR :)
Hi! Ich hab da mal zwei Fragen: Zum einen hab ich die Teile auf banggood ausgesucht, schon bevor ich von diesem Projekt gehört habe und würde gerne mal wissen ob das ganze denn Power- und Effizienzmäßig klar geht? Und ich habe ein SPRacing FC Board, dass ich gerne verbauen würde. Was sind denn Unterschiede bzw. Pro und Con gegenüber so einem größeren Autopiloten? Gerade läuft Betaflight, vielleicht installiere ich auch iNav, um es mal auszuprobieren. Meinungen? :D
Falls Du einen Hexa fliegen und nicht mit dem Autopiloten pokern möchtest, dann nimm eine naza oder iNav! Wenn der runter kommt, kostet das immer n Sack Geld ;-)
Ich hab den Autopiloten hier, weil alles dabei ist und ich mich darauf verlassen möchte.
Ob betaflight das richtige für so einen Hexa ist, weiß ich allerdings nicht. Gefühlt würde ich in der Größe immer etwas teureres als Autopilot nehmen.
@@JustFPV-net Alles klar! Ich habe bisher nur Erfahrung was Miniquads angeht (wie man wahrscheinlich merkt). Danke für die Antwort :)
Ah ja, eine Sache noch. Wäre die neue Version vom ZYX System zu empfehlen oder sollte ich eher in die Richtung Naza gehen? Bzw. gibt's da überhaupt große Unterschiede? Ich würde nämlich vom Autopiloten wahrscheinlich nur RTH als Failsafe benutzen, reicht für sowas vielleicht ein "standard" FC mit iNav drauf?
Je nachdem, was Du im Budget hast oder machen möchtest - beide sind gut, ich vermute aber die Nasa ist ausgereifter als das ZYX-System. Das bedeutet aber nicht, dass das ZYX nicht gut ist. Es ist günstiger und weniger verbreitet - das ist alles. iNav kann sicher auch den Hexa fliegen. Habe ich aber noch nicht probiert und erst mal muss ich die ZYX wieder flott machen. ... und einen defekten ESC finden.
Vielleicht möchtest Du aber Motoren mit 450-600kv nehmen anstatt. Das hier ist als Lastentier gedacht gewesen. Power hat er, aber schnell ist er nicht! Dafür ökonomisch im Verbrauch :)
@@JustFPV-net Okay, Danke. Also ich wollte für dieses Projekt auch nur Effizienz und gute Power, hier ist mir Speed egal. Ich werd' mir mal einige Vergleiche angucken, um zu schauen ob iNav was taugt. Vom Budget wäre an sich auch ein Naza drin, ich müsste dann halt nur länger sparen.
AMIGO, ESSE FRAME 690MM TAROT SUPORTA HÉLICES 1755? COLOCANDO AS HÉLICES 1755 ELAS NÃO FICARÃO TOCANDO ENTRE ELAS?
Hey there ... just found your comment. Max supported Props is 13° ... otherwise they will touch each other!
was it the battery ??? the esc ??? the motor ?? or the cheap controller????? which one cause it to crash
+john Al The cheap controller is basically pretty good! ... but as every FC it has some problems here and there. BUT ... no Fly-aways known by now! I will get deeper into this topic in part 2
so did u get 45 min flight with one battery ???? and did u find out why it crashed ???//
Hi +john Al
The problem was the software of the ZYX-M which decided to cut-of the motors. In V1.4 (current Version) this seems to be gone. I will find out, as soon as the FC arrives here. And no ... we only had the hexacopre for 45minutes in the air IN TOTAL! :) Usual flight time is supposed to get a 20min with full load (NEX5, Gimbal etc)
Hi - what batteries are you using? If they from banggood please can you post links? Thanks
Hi Ben,
in that case I didnt have any 6s Lipos from Banggood ... but look here: goo.gl/3g4qBy
I found the ZOP's with 5000+ mah would work great.
Good luck
Thank you!
You're welcome :)
Doesn't xyz have the motor safety Feature where if a motor stops the craft will keep going like the Dji A2 fc.? This Christmas I'm putting together pretty much the same build. I'm trying to get all the information I can
+Wade Stewart yes, it should have! On a hexa setup it should compensate for one motor if it stops working!
Never ran into this though so I can’t say „works!“ :)
Matebox in Motion do you know why yours crashed. I'm so scared of putting all my hard earned money into this build to have it crash on me.
sure, wasn't that hard to figure! I was about to descend and often i do so by lowering the throttle. In this moment I got fairly low and as the ZYX-M figured "low throttle" it interpreted it as "Shutdown the motors" ... and that then exactly happened ... But that was back then. Have a Look at my other video about the ZYX-M and how to prevent this
Matebox in Motion thank you this has given me lost of peace of mind. I've only got Motor's and the xyz-m to buy. I'm getting the motors tonight what size did you go with.
i think i did state it in the video description (if I remember right). Since its a 6s Setup we took low KV motors ... but you'll have to figure on what voltage you will be flying ...
i have old tarot 690, with tmotor 3605 380kv, foxtech carbon prop 1345, naza v2 ,dji minimosd , faiyu gimbal and gopro, 800mw vtx ,ibcrezy airscrew, with 6s haiyin lipo 5000mah this only 14minutes,, 8% left batt.. how to get 40minutes like yours,, thank you
Dony Kurniawan - you got that wrong ;) it flew 45min IN TOTAL before it crashed
Like it! What is the battery discharge rate (C)? Thanks!
+Gerardo Flores multistar 6s8000 10c
Do you think that it would work with 5C?
+Gerardo Flores I don't know- but this could be working as das as your motors won't draw to much current
Thanks! Is that possible that it works with 6s9500 5C?
+Gerardo Flores I don't know- I don't have such batteries
what propeller did you use with this configuration?
+Michele Trungadi We used 1355 Props ... let me append them to the list
above (Should be linked in the description now) we used these: TL2829 T Series 1355 Carbon Fiber Props. well balanced and cheap
Very thanks! :-)
...and with this setup you can fly for 45 minutes?
no ... sadly, the hexa crashed fatally after approx 45 minutes of flight ... which again is the reason part 2 is coming, where we will rebuild it as a Tarot 680 PRO. But this again did hurt on the bank account
our priority was to be capable to LIFT a lot and having low motor rotation ... thats why we chose the setup like above (higher motor spin => more vibration etc)
Mmm interesting...
The hexa crash after 45 minutes of flight, but it can fly for more time with 1 6s Lipo 8000?
Really 45 min with 8000 mah 6s! Wow!! And I didn't found that flight controller
I didn’t say: 45min flight time ...
I was supposed to say: it lived 45 minutes of flight in total
Regarding the flight computer- go for a naza or something
@@JustFPV-net and how much flight time did you got with that setup in one lunch can you tell me plzz! I am also making just like that so
i think it was about 20min if i rember right - will have to retry next year ;)
@@JustFPV-net 😊 I am using 10000 mah 6s lipo ! With all same what you have used except flight controller instead I am using pixhawk 2.4.8,
How much flight time would I get ! Can you guess plzz
Perhaps 30min? Let’s rather say 25mins
:)
VELOCITY MAXIMAL?
I don’t know any more … sorry
mhmm dont you think the yi is a bit too heavy ;)
+Samu well ... now that you mention it ... YES :D
@@JustFPV-net Really 45 min with 8000 mah 6s! Wow!! And I didn't found that flight controller
Were the motor getting hot?
Not at all
@@JustFPV-net I am building the same and I thing the 380kv 6s are overkill for 1355 props so I decided to extend 690s arms and swing 15 inch props..... What's your recommendation?
This sounds reasonable- we wanted it to pull a lot ;) but I would go for faster motors nowadays - bigger props on the other hand are a good thing too
@@JustFPV-net Than I must go with those tarot 700kv 4s or these 6s 380kv? Cheers
Depends upon your needs ;) I would try 4s
please gains? thanks
+zeljka veselesalice veselesalice
we picked the Tarot X6 gains as follows:
Tarot X6 BASIC GAINS:
Pitch 60
Roll 60
Pan 80
Vertical 30
Attitude Gains:
Pitch 15
Roll 15
Vertical 50
Hope, this helps you :)
@@JustFPV-net yeah it helped me😊