Alfa 159 does not compete with the E class and 5 series, but C class, 3 series, and A4. With that being said it drives better than any of those cars. It is not a track day car and with the FWD configuration the driving style should be with that in mind, however the fast and precise steering and the amount of mechanical grip together with its neutral handling on the edge makes it a true sports sedan, which can be said only for the watered down E90 while other cars mentioned earlier are just luxury sedans that feel much more disconnected and bland. As for the "high" mileage, I often see examples with 400k and 500k kilometres on the clock and still going strong. Alfa 159 is made so well it is hard to find a bad onev they won't start, especially JTDm ones. My 159 was 8 years in the family and we traveled all across Europe and a good part of Asia, such a great and underestimated driver's car.
amen brother.. i still think to this day... 17 years after its introduction... that the 159 is such an under appreciated car... Yeah maybe the motorisation of the car outside of diesles and the 1.8Tbi engine was poor.. but everything else is top notch with the competition of those days... mine is going into its 13th year and it's a car that makes me not think about other cars... i just don't miss anything else while driving this beauty... ok maybe Giulia is a bit busting my balls but that's it😂
The squeaks are mostly caused by stock or bad aftermarket bushes on the fronts. If your gonna replace them, make sure you get Powerflex Bushes and make sure they are oiled, otherwise you'll make them squeaky too :)
I had the good fortune to buy a Rosso red 2010 2.0 jtdm ti sw three and a half years ago. Currently has nearly 119,000 miles on the clock, but there is not a rattle or squeak anywhere. Drives like a dream and I wouldn't part with it.
You want the 2.0 Jtdm Jimbo . Much better engine . Cake the underside of it with lanogaurd or similar . Service every year and you'll have many years of happy driving . Gorgeous , gorgeous car . Hope you are waving at fellow alfisti !
@@gavinwilson4550 not sure what you are refering to, but the answer is no. The 2.0 comes with a 6 speed manual only, it is marked as F40, and it is the best one as far as I can tell... EDIT: he is refering to the M32, it supposedly can be problematic regarding the bearings...but preventable by adding a bit more oil than prescribed and changing it often. There's another newer manual C635, I think used in last years of production, don't know much about that one...so 3 in total, not only one dodgy as he stated. if u plan on buying a 159 I would def. go with a manual, also personal preference...
The 1.9 JTDMs came with the absolutely dreadful GM M32 gearbox (fitted to millions of Astras and Vectras) that is made of chocolate and has a huge main bearing failure rate. The later 2.0 JTDM (which I'm happy to own in my 159) have the F40 gearbox in, which is stiffer to operate but carved from granite and very reliable.
Sin embargo los 2.0 jtd tienen un problema en el retén de la bomba de aceite y ha supuesto la rotura de muchos motores por falta de lubricación. La caja m32 con modificacion en los cojinetes no debería volver a fallar.
Car looks amazing, I didn't realise you had that squeak, my brera did exactly the same thing!! Also had a squeak from the clutch, couldn't do anything about it, drove it for 3 years no issue 👍
I have the same car. 125k drives like a dream and is my car of choice over my BMW 640d. I've had it chipped to 200 bhp and put Voloce alloys on it and it handles like a dream on its bigger tyres. You have to drive it and it gives you loads of feedback. I've been lucky enough to have spent my life in big limo type cars but this is the one that is my go to drive. Oh and the looks
Good stuff this. Looking to replace my ( really good) E350 Diesel Estate with a slihgtly more engaging small estate and a Petrol Ti 159 is looking like top choice.
Nice to hear you never mentioned the reliability that most who have never owned or been near 1.think they have the right to slate alfa I own a 159 ti as my every day car and my pride and joy a giulia quadrifoglio in trofo white .I've owned 14 alfas 32 italian cars in my time .along with plenty of other makes I really dont know what all the hype is about german garbage. Alfa only for me from an alfisti.
I have a 2.4ti 2008 & my rear spring collapse 😢 looking for a set for the rear but think the oem are abit pricey! Any one fitted the Eibachs? or have link to any alternative? Need car back up & running for winter. Please help. Great video & yes its, they are amazing looking cars still today. 👍
How do you find this compared to the saab ? I had a 1.9 diesel 9-3, and looking at the 159 with the same engine. Something about the alfa that makes it more desirable, but I can imagine that the creature comforts of the Saab make it nicer to live with day to day.
I have owned 2 Saab 9-5's and I currently own a 2.0 jtdm 2010 ti sportwagon in Rosso red with black roofrails. I agree that Saabs are extremely comfortable and are real mile eaters. The 159 is a really good car - try to get the later 2.0 diesel, as it is a much better engine. As for creature comforts, the Alfa ti has all the toys.
As estate cars go, these are definitely one of the best looking on the road, still. As it happens the car will be looking for a new home soon - would you be interested?
@@JimbosDriveway I certainly would be, I’ve always loved an Alfa! My first was a 145 Cloverleaf but now with a young family these are perfect and so stunning
Alfa 159 does not compete with the E class and 5 series, but C class, 3 series, and A4. With that being said it drives better than any of those cars. It is not a track day car and with the FWD configuration the driving style should be with that in mind, however the fast and precise steering and the amount of mechanical grip together with its neutral handling on the edge makes it a true sports sedan, which can be said only for the watered down E90 while other cars mentioned earlier are just luxury sedans that feel much more disconnected and bland.
As for the "high" mileage, I often see examples with 400k and 500k kilometres on the clock and still going strong. Alfa 159 is made so well it is hard to find a bad onev they won't start, especially JTDm ones. My 159 was 8 years in the family and we traveled all across Europe and a good part of Asia, such a great and underestimated driver's car.
amen brother.. i still think to this day... 17 years after its introduction... that the 159 is such an under appreciated car... Yeah maybe the motorisation of the car outside of diesles and the 1.8Tbi engine was poor.. but everything else is top notch with the competition of those days... mine is going into its 13th year and it's a car that makes me not think about other cars... i just don't miss anything else while driving this beauty... ok maybe Giulia is a bit busting my balls but that's it😂
@@maxter312 what abt the 1750 and 3.2 v6?
Appreciate your comment. Everyone talks about Motorways, but I'm looking for a B road bruser ✌️
I had two: this one and a 1.9 l turbodiesel sedan. Both were beautiful.
The squeaks are mostly caused by stock or bad aftermarket bushes on the fronts. If your gonna replace them, make sure you get Powerflex Bushes and make sure they are oiled, otherwise you'll make them squeaky too :)
I had the good fortune to buy a Rosso red 2010 2.0 jtdm ti sw three and a half years ago. Currently has nearly 119,000 miles on the clock, but there is not a rattle or squeak anywhere. Drives like a dream and I wouldn't part with it.
You want the 2.0 Jtdm Jimbo . Much better engine . Cake the underside of it with lanogaurd or similar . Service every year and you'll have many years of happy driving . Gorgeous , gorgeous car . Hope you are waving at fellow alfisti !
Does the 2.0 jtdm have the dodgy gearbox he mentions ?….
@@gavinwilson4550 not sure what you are refering to, but the answer is no. The 2.0 comes with a 6 speed manual only, it is marked as F40, and it is the best one as far as I can tell... EDIT: he is refering to the M32, it supposedly can be problematic regarding the bearings...but preventable by adding a bit more oil than prescribed and changing it often. There's another newer manual C635, I think used in last years of production, don't know much about that one...so 3 in total, not only one dodgy as he stated. if u plan on buying a 159 I would def. go with a manual, also personal preference...
The 1.9 JTDMs came with the absolutely dreadful GM M32 gearbox (fitted to millions of Astras and Vectras) that is made of chocolate and has a huge main bearing failure rate. The later 2.0 JTDM (which I'm happy to own in my 159) have the F40 gearbox in, which is stiffer to operate but carved from granite and very reliable.
Sin embargo los 2.0 jtd tienen un problema en el retén de la bomba de aceite y ha supuesto la rotura de muchos motores por falta de lubricación. La caja m32 con modificacion en los cojinetes no debería volver a fallar.
The squeak gone-Self Healing Italian Technology. Love the 159
Car looks amazing, I didn't realise you had that squeak, my brera did exactly the same thing!! Also had a squeak from the clutch, couldn't do anything about it, drove it for 3 years no issue 👍
I have the same car. 125k drives like a dream and is my car of choice over my BMW 640d. I've had it chipped to 200 bhp and put Voloce alloys on it and it handles like a dream on its bigger tyres. You have to drive it and it gives you loads of feedback. I've been lucky enough to have spent my life in big limo type cars but this is the one that is my go to drive. Oh and the looks
Nice Vid!! And well done for pronouncing 'Giugiaro'...!! Nice car. I have the Brera but also would love one of these.
wow what a looker! a shame we didn't get these in the states
Good stuff this. Looking to replace my ( really good) E350 Diesel Estate with a slihgtly more engaging small estate and a Petrol Ti 159 is looking like top choice.
Modern classic for sure
Currently looking at a Alfa Romeo 159 TI 1.750
If it's anything like my 156, the squeaks were from the upper wishbone bushes.
Funny thing is that i have owned a v6 for 3 years, and it is super reliable, whereas on all my groups, seems like the 2.4 is always breaking...
Beautiful car, and it"s not that expensive.
Nice to hear you never mentioned the reliability that most who have never owned or been near 1.think they have the right to slate alfa I own a 159 ti as my every day car and my pride and joy a giulia quadrifoglio in trofo white .I've owned 14 alfas 32 italian cars in my time .along with plenty of other makes I really dont know what all the hype is about german garbage. Alfa only for me from an alfisti.
Your washes has some kind of flaw. They are normally quite good (I am on my third 159 now. And I haven't been in one with to bad washers as yours)
I have a 2.4ti 2008 & my rear spring collapse 😢 looking for a set for the rear but think the oem are abit pricey! Any one fitted the Eibachs? or have link to any alternative? Need car back up & running for winter. Please help. Great video & yes its, they are amazing looking cars still today. 👍
Have you tried finding a local SAAB specialist to speak to, they might be able to help.
Any ideas what’s an 2007 worth 75k ? Mint condition ?
How do you find this compared to the saab ? I had a 1.9 diesel 9-3, and looking at the 159 with the same engine. Something about the alfa that makes it more desirable, but I can imagine that the creature comforts of the Saab make it nicer to live with day to day.
I have owned 2 Saab 9-5's and I currently own a 2.0 jtdm 2010 ti sportwagon in Rosso red with black roofrails. I agree that Saabs are extremely comfortable and are real mile eaters. The 159 is a really good car - try to get the later 2.0 diesel, as it is a much better engine. As for creature comforts, the Alfa ti has all the toys.
Tried looking for one of these in black with the roofbars. Just couldn't find one.
roofbars are less common...
too bad i live in america and i cant buy one. i would love love a alfa romeo wagon.
Funnily enough, the 159 was built on the GM/Fiat "premium platform" which was largely developed by... Saab.
Are you selling anytime soon? These are just the most stunning estate cars on the road!
As estate cars go, these are definitely one of the best looking on the road, still. As it happens the car will be looking for a new home soon - would you be interested?
@@JimbosDriveway I certainly would be, I’ve always loved an Alfa! My first was a 145 Cloverleaf but now with a young family these are perfect and so stunning
What about the xjs Jim?
There’s news coming on that soon!
Seen this exact car is up on autotrader now. how come you've decided to chip it on mate?
Mainly due to the ULEZ extension, which means from August would cost £12.50 a day to drive it 😭
Dieser Kombi ist der einzige der ohne Dachreeling besser aussieht, als mit.
True
Am I right in saying it's the volvo d5 engine
In this car? No, it is a FIAT 5 cilindar 2.4 JTDm engine.
Diesel. Bye bye.