I really doubt that. He has always had a lot of sexual tension in his work, he just restrained it due to WB policies. Have you read his unofficial Batman TAS comics? He once did a story where Two-Face gets reformed and as Harvey, dates a girl - and her twin sister manipulates him into crime again and murders and replaces her twin, and Two-face ends up having sex with her but then killing her too after the coin-toss because he does not forgive. This he did decades ago after working on the original show, and it features quite a lot of nudity.
So much cringe. As someone who watched TAS as a kid I and have the box sets, I don't care for this undignified representation of these characters. I'm a Harley fangirl but I really dislike her in this. I can't get past the voice either.
It's a like a horrible embellishment on a work of art sprayed with gold paint over it. I thought Superman: Brainic Attacks was the worst animated movie to use the DCAU style until this one came along.
It really irritates me when they include sex jokes in a movie and label that as "mature". Ive been around enough dirty minded bozoes in high school and college to know there is NOTHING mature about sex jokes. Maturity is taking responsablity for your actions, knowing not everything is all black and white, and understanding not everything will go the way u wish but u continue to work hard and make sacrifices because it shapes u into who u will become. THAT is a mature story. THIS is dirty and gritty at best, plain and simple.
Queenofawesome25 L I dunno, I've seen a couple of suggestive jokes in the Justice League animated series... emphasis on *suggestive,* and not "mind-numbingly obvious".
Here here. If more people like you were behind the wheel, maybe today's "adult" movies would actually be worth watching, like they used to be. I don't know when society started getting this idea that having a dirty mouth and an equally dirty mind made you mature somehow, but trust me, it doesn't make you mature. It just reflects ill breeding and makes you come across as no more cultured or intelligent than some uneducated thug off the street. REAL maturity is, well, basically everything you just said.
FireLord54 "I don't know when society started getting this idea that having a dirty mouth and an equally dirty mind made you mature somehow, but trust me, it doesn't make you mature." That's probably because humor isn't a measure of maturity. If you can use humor (even dirty humor) to good effect, then that'd be pretty mature. But if you don't, then you wind up with Harley Quinn passing gas.
I couldn't agree more. I love animation and I'd love for more filmmakers to stop treating it as something exclusively for kids and weird manchildren, but it's hard to convince people that animation can be serious and handle adult themes when films like this treat sex jokes and gratuitous swearing like an instant-ticket to adulthood. Real mature animated movies are movies like The illusionist and Persepolis, that deals with issues like idealism versus the harsh reality and showing that sometimes, dreams doesn't come true even if you work hard, not films trying to be edgy by being gross, full of swearing and violence and have everyone being an unlikable jerk for no reason.
You know for all of Killing Joke’s fault, at least the bad stuff was only in the first half while the actual Killing Joke part was decent and well adapted. This movie just screams of desperation and cringe. Instead of the mature writing of Batman: The Animated Series, we have an equivalent of a teenager trying to be edgy with adult jokes. Great video Bobsheaux.
Agreed. Execution was pretty bad, but you could see they were trying to get us to care about Batgirl before she got crippled by the Joker.It’s just her having sex with Batman was just an awful idea.
Not to mention that the first half felt like a completely different movie. How I would have fixed Killing Joke would be simple: get rid of the Batsex entirely and have the Batgirl story have some connection to the Joker so it can segway perfectly into the Killing Joke portion.
Bruce Timm just has a bizarre fetish for seeing Bruce and Barbara together. Two characters who really don't belong together and who, even in the stories he pairs them off in, end up resenting each other for the shittiness of the relationship. What is the obsession? I don't get it.
Woooooooow that ending was out-of-character. Say what you will about Batman killing in BVS, at least we knew from the get-go that Batman took no pleasure from it and he re-learned the value of mercy. But Batman gleefully setting a villain on fire? That's ASBAR levels of terrible.
That doesn't really kill him, y'know. They are in a SWAMP. He can just put himself out. Plus this is the same Batman who had Clayface dissolve in water. He allows more violence against those who are not mere humans and can take more punishment. He did shoot the guy with lightning before... Floronic Man can regenerate pretty fast.
Its feels we are watching Bruces Timm fanfiction movie. Because there no way that batman and nightwing kisses harley's cheek at same time. Unless there are under Poison ivy's influence
Detective Comics #823. Still remains the worst comic I've ever read. Worse still, if you ask Dini about it on Twitter, he will BLOCK your ass. Dini's a fucking sexist pig and a shit writer.
Just from this review, the movie seems like bad fan-fiction. It steals elements and premises from the Animated Series, throws in "edgy" and "mature" fan-service material that conflicts with the goofier elements (thrown in as a different kind of fan-service), and feels way too indulgent. I'd be tempted to review this on my own channel, but I'd probably blackout from the many moments that'd have me slamming my head against the nearest wall.
20:27 you know how they could’ve made the bar scene better? While Harley Quinn is singing her song, nightwing and Batman get attacked by the henchmen, and while Harley is singing, Batman and nightwing are kicking some major ass! Then the scene would end with the guy giving Harley what she needs, and when she says she got what they need, we see the aftermath of Batman and nightwing fighting A BAR FULL OF HENCHMEN, like Batman and nightwing once or twice got hit with a chair, and they have some cuts and bruises and Harley acts like getting the info was a piece of cake while Batman and nightwing had to fight for their lives.She walks out skipping, and Batman does his usual Batman Hurm.
Just a nitpick but I don’t like how they gave Nightwing’s mask pupils. It does the job fine without them, maybe better even. Also why does everything that wants to be pg-13 or R automatically jump to sex to get their rating? I can’t stand it.
My thoughts exactly, gross jokes won't make something mature, if anything, it's a sign of immaturity. Probably one of the darkest parts of any animated movie I've seen was from Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame, where there's a montage of Judge Frollo and his guards tear up the city while rounding up gypsies and anyone accused of aiding them, culminating in Frollo setting a house on fire with a family locked inside, and that movie was rated G. There's actually not much violence in the montage and we never actually see anyone explicitly get injured on screen, yet that scene still sends chills up my spine even as an adult. That's how you make a mature movie, not by adding gross sex jokes and swearing.
Rob Paulsen singing "Don't Pull Your Love" with himself was the highlight of this movie. Especially since he did this after recovering from Stage 3 Throat Cancer.
@@ChaseMC215 yes. As well as Pinky of Pinky & The Brain, Raphael in the 1987 version and Donatello in the 2012 version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
If I had a nickel for every time Rob Paulsen took over a voice role originally done by Micky Dolenz, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Moral of the story: you should of just watch Scooby-Doo & Batman The Brave and the Bold. That film showcase more care for the Batman series it was base on and manage to pull off legitimate serious scenes in spite of its very lighthearted nature.
Um, no offenses, but they are just a bunch of ordinary teenagers and a talking dog who solved the mystery of having people in Halloween costumes all because of money and revenge for what they did to them and having a lot of goofy hijinx and wacky shenanigans. Seriously, what can they possibly do to help superheroes? I know it's nostalgia, but the Scooby gang is useless. When it comes to certain things that are way out of their league, like going up against real supervillains all by themselves and possibly anything supernatural. Honestly, the leader is a bit of an idiot and a terrible leader when it comes to having the team split up and looking for clues. If they were going up against real supernatural threats, like Jason Voorhees or Freddy Krueger, they die in a couple of minutes, and not to mention that his traps don't work that much. The girl in the group has always gotten kidnaped, and she doesn't contribute much to the team. Until years later, some of her incarnations are useful to the team. The brain of the group is such a know-it-all smug. She is the only valid member of the team, she's a better example of being a detective than the other members, but she can't handle things all by herself just like others. Finally, you have the hippy and the dog, who are not only cowards, who are not the smartest in the group, and the only thing they are good at are eating a lot and being bait for the monsters. I know some of the members have skills of their own in other versions of themselves, I am just going to talk about what the members are known for in most versions and even though some of the members have talent is still not enough to help superheroes when comes to handling supervillains especially, handling the most dangerous villains in D.C comics. If it was the darker version of the superheroes. Not only there incredibly useless to help them, but they are going to be in the way of doing their job of being superheroes while having to be saved all the time of their action. When it comes to superhero team-ups, the writers have some changes by dumbing down the heroes so the Mystery Gang can be equals, like in the New Scooby-Doo movies, Superfriends, and Scooby-Doo and Guess Who? So, it can be entertaining by pleasing the audience. In other words, they are so useless when it comes to handling something real, which is not a guy or a woman in a Halloween costume that's trying to scare someone all because of greed or revenge for something that they did to them. When it comes to some situations, they can barely handle the supernatural. Here are some examples of the Scooby Gang manages supernatural threats. In Zombie Island, all they did was try to stay alive from the cat people until there out of time. In Witch's Ghost, they didn't do anything to get rid of the witch. It was thanks to Thorn from the Hex girls who saved the day. All the gang did was try to make sure the Ravencrofts should not get the book. These films had real supernatural threats, and they did absolutely nothing to handle them. Also, in Scooby-natural, they didn't do much, and they had no idea to manage a real ghost. It was all thanks to the Supernatural team, who did all the work, and at the end of the special, the Supernatural team lied to them, so they will go back to doing what they always do. In the Goblin King, the other members don't know what they're up against; it took Shaggy and Scooby-Doo to save the day with a couple of magical items of what they have. You might as well face it, no matter what you're going to say about trying to defend the Mystery Gang. It is still not enough for them to handle impossible things, such as managing something that is real, without having any help from people who are better than them in everything. The only thing they are good at is, handling people in Halloween costumes.
As wrong as this movie got the animated series universe, I think they were trying to say this story was from Harley's pov. Which is why the characters are wrong, the back stories are wrong and the humor is bad. BUT the creators didn't fully commit to this idea, thus we got a hodge podge. A bad, bad hodge podge...
Travelbound Now when you put it like that, the movie probably should have started with Batman meeting Harley for a talk (you think of the reason) and their recalling the time they had to team up in this. But Harley is doing the talking which means it's coming from her POV and that's why things seem a little off at first because it's how she remembers it not how Batman does.
"I never knew, that our romance have ended. Until you've poisoned my food" That has to be the most awkward song I've heard Bobsheaux used in his openings when he shows the videos thumbnail before the review. LOL
1. I thought Min & Max were dead? (In "Two-Face, Pt. 2"-their only BTAS appearance, as soon as Rupert Thorne captures Two-Face, he implies that he had his goons kill them). Then again, it does show Captain Clown and Randa Duane revived and dancing together, so maybe they "un-died" too... 2. They were originally voiced by Micky Dolenz (yes, the one from the Monkees) in "Two-Face, Pt. 2"...which makes this the second time a character originally voiced by Dolenz has had Paulsen as their new voice. (The first was Arthur in between Seasons 1 and 2 of The Tick)
Imagine if he did that as Yakko Warner. Because the one thing he likes doing is signing, right? After all Rob Paulsen did sing the Countries of the World song in one take for the original 90's run of Animaniacs. (Supposedly. I don't know, I saw the fact in a comment for a 107 facts video about the original show's run)
The fart joke actually got me. Because i imagine Batman is trying so hard to keep his image. This movie need to be sent to Arkham for its crimes and madness.
In defense of Two-Face's goons, I wouldn't say they're singing about loving each other romantically, they're just sort of performing the song they sing which is still about loving a girl... although now that you mention the context of said performance is rather iffy.
This movie man... It's like the equivalent of your favourite singer doing another live concert years after their last despte having grievances with their latest album(Bruce Timmy's the Killing Joke) and the first thing that happens is that he/she shits their underwear on stage. It is one thing for their current work to be below the standards of the older ones they've done but it is another thing when they butcher your favourite song(the DCAU being that song) on stage.
Can I just say that Nightwing's eyes are *really* distracting to me? They just look so weird, they should have kept them as pure white, not add in those stupid looking circles for pupils
6:18 So, I was curious and looked up "physiognomy." From Wikipedia "[physiognomy] can also refer to the general appearance of a person, object, or terrain without reference to its implied characteristics-as in the physiognomy of an individual plant (see plant life-form) or of a plant community (see vegetation)." So, this isn't a case of bad writing. That said, there's plenty more examples of actual bad writing throughout the rest of the movie.
11:10 actually, they should’ve gotten Hynden walch, not only did she sound similar to the original voice actress, but the voice she provided was also new.
as someone is a HUGE Batman fan and LOVED Batman the Animated Series I'd found Batman & Harley Quinn to be a Huge Disappointment at least with The Killing Joke it stayed true to it's sourced materiel with and they had Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to reprise there roles and they got away with a hard R Rated Batman animated movie But with this feels like an insult to the Animated series take my advice stick with The Killing Joke Hell GO with Batman Ninja or even Mask of the Phantasum over this Shit!
Personally, Ninja Batman is just as bad as this movie just for different reasons. (Kind of, there's plenty of sexist flandarizing of Harley in that too.)
Do you think Bruce Timm should step down and let someone else should take over to make a new Batman animated series? Because of this movie sucks and its an insult of Batman TAS.
12:38, it is explained in the prequel comic that Joker basically left her for dead after she ruined one of his schemes. So she goes with Poison Ivy and she botches that too so she basically decides to give up and go straight
Actually in the comics Harley left him. Harley messed one of joker scheme ON PURPOSE so he would try to kill her ( her messed up too get his attention) but when joker acts like he doesn't care she gets pissed and leaves.
Either way, it proves that the Joker didn't give two shits about Harley. This is why in the Harley Quinn animated show, Mr J just straight up didn't bother to break her out of Arkham Asylum in the first episode, instead Poison Ivy staged a riot in Arkham just to get Harley out, albeit not without the lovable harlequin yapping about how the Joker will save her when Poison Ivy knows that he stopped caring about her.
The weirdest thing about a Power Girl costume being at that hooters bar is that Power Girl's actually not supposed to exist in this universe. The closest Bruce Timm's DCAU ever got to her was a Supergirl clone named Galatea.
She called the Joker an asshat because by this point she'd REALIZED that the Joker was an abusive monster, escaped him (and he possibly also died) and she'd moved on with her life. We even see in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker that she's long since reformed and is appalled by the idea of her granddaughters turning to crime and working with her abusive ex. Aside from that, though, every criticism you had for this dumpster fire was dead-on. Great review!
But also in Return of The Joker we see Joker's death, and the same night was Harley's actual last encounter with Batman. She almost died and was never seen again by the Bat family, presumed death. So, this movie must be before that. Yes, we see her old, reformed and alive at the end of ROTJ, but the Bat family still doesn't know she's alive.
Why is it that the 90s animated characters are better than the modern versions of them? That Nightwing and Harley shipping just came out of nowhere. wth? 19:21 that made me laugh.
harleys redemption arc in this movie causes confusion with the flashback in return of the joker depending on what the timeline is supposed to be it would cause this to make no sense if she went from being reformed to suddenly going back to the joker and helping him torture and brainwash tim drake
Crew: Alright Ms Walch, we'd like you to voice Harley in our new movie. Hynden: Sure. (at the table reading) *Harley farts* Hynden: Nope. Crew: Alright, let's try Tara Strong. Tara: Sure, I'd love to play Harley. (at the table reading) *Harley farts* Tara: *sigh* whatever, I'm not below this kind of humor. Batman: Smells like discipline. Tara: That's it, I'm out!
Crew: "Goddamnit! Alright, who else do we got? Oh, I know who should play Harley Quinn! That chick from The Big Bang Theory! Send in Melissa Rauch!" Melissa: "Ooh, i'd love to play Harley Quinn! So, what do I have to work with?" *Harley farts* Batman: "Smells like discipline." Melissa: "Perfect! I'm in!" Crew: "Yay!"
I think Tara Strong was busy doing either My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic in her native Canada, Teen Titans Go or the final season of The Fairly OddParents. That might explain why she wasn't Harley Quinn in this movie.
This film just reminds me a lot of Superman Brainiac Attacks. That film heavily recycled the character designs from Superman TAS and some of the voice actors but had a terrible plot. The only differences are that Bruce Timm didn’t work on that film and it had 100% less sex jokes.
Haha, Yeah, it was so BIZARRE seeing a dopey man-child version of Lex Luthor with the same exact design as the serious and calculating Lex of STAS and Justice League/JLU.
This is what happens when you're watching Mystery science theater 3k on YT you end up clicking on video after video and then eventually wind up clicking on a movie review channel and I'm not complaining I actually really love this channel.
Did M Night Shymalan take over the dialoge part by the end? They could so easily made Swampthing's arrival be the closing part, but nope deliver a speech and bail.
Pretty sure after Harley broke the dude's wrist they won't. also pretty sure it actually translates as "Don't Touch or they can beat the shit out of you and not get in trouble.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 even if she break that guys hand. We all know they won't stop, not saying that all guy are prev. But in this moive it very clear that there are guy who don't give a shit and just want to touch for the hell of it.
Even if Batman tried to pull some strings to have her hired in the mental health profession, (which I don't think that even at his kindest and most generous would agree to that), most people wouldn't trust her with such a position considering her history. He could've gotten her a more respectable position than what she had though.
Mark retired his bit from the Joker voice back in about 2013, 4 years before this movie. Yes he had returned once more to do the Killing Joke, but that was a promise he originally made back when, since he loved that specific comic book and would love to have his name attached however he could manage.
Must be a Batsheaux!!!! What's this? Bob is not dressed as Batsy? What the hell?? Plus, Raven n Bob need something from DC to binge. MAy I suggest the 1990s Flash? It has Mark Hamill in it.
Sean Bateman To be honest Mark Hamill episodes are and will be the only time I will watch The Flash (no disrespect to the show it's just you can't say Mark Hamill isn't your favorite thing in The Flash).... which is why Mark Hamill should Reprise the role of The Trickster as the main villain for a Live Action DCEU/World's Of DC Flash Movie.
Can we just take a moment to talk about how dreadful Melissa Rauch is as Harley Quinn? Like yeesh, she's a decent actress and all, but her Harley Quinn voice is abysmal, she sounds like a 50-year-old woman doing a bad Arleen Sorkin impression. It's painful to listen to, and it's only accentuated by having her act opposite Kevin Conroy and Loren Lester, which just highlights how wrong Harley's voice sounds. But I'm not a fan of Tara Strong in the role either. Tara Strong is an amazing voice actress and on paper, she sounds like a great choice for Harley, but whenever she plays the roles she goes way overboard with it and makes Harley sound like a whiny little girl when she could do just fine by using her normal voice with a Brooklyn-ish accent. My preferred choice has always been Hynden Walch.
Ok to bring this up real quick, the creators said, even when the movie was announced, that it doesn’t actually take place in the DCAU despite it sharing the same art style. This movie takes place in its own separate universe like the second Tenchi Muyo movie, Daughter of Darkness.
"That Lady Shiva, wouldn't say no to that pie" Is... Is that supposed to be David Cain? The armor looks the part, New 52-era Cain had a mechanical hand, he obviously wants to bone Lady Shiva. What... What just an odd, completely directionless choice.
To answer your last question in the credits, as long as the story properly sets it up, I don't think it matters. I think of the ending of Batman: Arkham Knight (SPOILERS ABOUND...for a game that's a few years old...) before he reveals himself to Scarecrow. He's fighting a horde of hallucinations of Joker, and it ends with him snapping the Joker's neck. He falls to his knees, he knew he crossed that blood-red line. This may also be the catalyst for him activating the Knightfall Protocol once you finish everything up - if he killed (a hallucination of) the Joker, how much further can he go? How many people would he kill?
Other observations: -In the comics Batman does goes to Med School mostly to learn about Forensics. -I totally agree with you, you can't burn the Photonic Man, besides he has a large body of water right in front of him he can just jump there which is what he needs to spread the virus -Harley is probably a lousy psychiatrist anyway even if her title is real, at least according to the comics she sleept with her teachers for her grade.
Another issue...this creates a major PLOTHOLE in the DCAU timeline. Remember, Harley's still in her ol' gig as the Joker's paramour during the flashback events of "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker"...during the battle, after her fall, she was PRESUMED DEAD (even though we, the audience, find out she survived later on)...so if this took place after the events of the RotJ flashback, Batman & Nightwing (who would be solely in Blüdhaven at this point) shouldn't know she's even alive. If this took place before the events of the RotJ Flashback...then how did ol' Puddin' woo her back?
@@jordancooper1592 But after the flashback scene ended, Commissioner Gordon (Barbara, that is) implied that Harley was presumed dead from then onwards (though we see she survived near the end, possibly assuming a new name)
@@MichaelBurmy it’s possible that Barbara just said that to protect Harley’s identity as she’d turned over a new leaf. Barbara’s no fool and if Harley Quinn was still alive and living in Gotham she’d definitely know about it somehow.
@@jordancooper1592 But none of the Bat-Family would be in ANY mood to deal with her again after how she helped her Puddin' in that...remember, this crossed SEVERAL lines, to the point where Batman looked willing to break his One Rule on the Joker.
Did you know the episode where we learn about Harley's past in the animated series has it's own comic book? In that version it shows Harley actually earned her degree because of "special favors" for her teachers and maybe even the principal. Just thought you should know.
Yep, that was in the TAS comics too as I recall. She got into psychology because it was "hip" at the time... she wanted to work with the Joker and get famous.
You could tell this movie was gonna suck when they didn't even get Tara Strong to voice Harley. Instead they got Bernadette from the Big Bang Theory....And I'm still wondering why
The Fan Without a Face Why doesn't Hynden Walch ever get any recognition.... I mean I love Tara Strong as much as the next guy but I believe Hyndens Harley Quinn is just as good.
The Fan Without a Face That's Arleen Sorkins the original Harley Quinn you are thinking of... Hynden Walch Is still voice acting she plays the role of Starfire on Teen Titans Go
Hynden Walch's Harley sounds way more natural to me than Tara's Harley voice does. Tara's gotten better (In Justice League Action and DC Superhero Girls she sounds really good) but she started out her time as Harley in Arkham City sounding really irritating and fake; where as I've liked Hynden's voice as Harley in everything she's voiced her in.
Man, Such awesome potential Wasted! And this is coming from someone who has the first seasons of Batman TAS in DVD. (Wich, by the way, I bought them for 2.99$ when my local Blockbuster closed in 2016. I miss that Place).
Bob...I'm not gonna lie... When I witnessed Harley Quinn's fart scenes at 17:22 and 22:28...I LAUGHED... I'm of the opinion they're not funny, yet I laughed anyway... Do I really have that poor of a taste in humor? D:
Nah, I've laughed at my fair share of dumb humor. I even consider shock humor an art form of sorts (when it's done correctly). I didn't laugh at those particular jokes, but I don't blame you for laughing at them.
I'll admit that I laughed, but it was more schadenfreude at the writers being such idiots that they legitimately put a fart joke in their "gritty" movie than the joke itself.
Y'know, with all the stupid childish jokes and animations here, I'd expect this to be a Scooby Doo movie. Which isn't a compliment to Scooby Doo because I like Scooby Doo and Batman. Hell, Batman Vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had childish jokes and comedy... But the jokes were actually funny and they landed. Because they all came from Mikey. Not Batman or Damian. And when they did, they worked. Damian getting upset about not being able to press any buttons in the Batmobile is funny and especially the scene where Batman says "Cowabunga!"
I never knew that "Batman and Harley Quinn" was so disliked until now. After watching this episode, I can totally see why. 😒 Speaking of this episode, I watched it on a Thursday... *and* a Friday! 😂
I...WOW. Just...WOW. This movie...was just them trying to cash in on the nostalgia and good will of the stellar and excellent, practically timeless Batman The Animated Series. Really, the ending with them both kissing Harley and then LIGHTING THE FLOURONIC MAN ON FIRE!? REALLY!? Batman WANTING to get into a fight without his utility belt! Harely SCHTUPPING Nightwing?! I think I threw up a little good lord this movie is a joke.
What gets me about Swamp Thing Is that they use him the same way twice back to back in DC Animated Films He gets used about the same way in Justice League Dark
Also Batman has roughed up Woodrew (Particularly cutting his head off) Because Lethal Force really doesn't kill Fluronic Man Hell, lighting the dude on fire wouldn't kill him either Batman only ever resorts to such tactics when he knows non lethal force won't stop something/are unkillable
This movie would make a whole lot more sense if everything was the events as basically filter through the perspective of Harley Quinn. She basically detached enough from reality that she is basically interprets things differently from what they actually are.
Not to defend the writers of this (or shit on Bob I respect the hell out of the guy) but we havent seen him tell a story from scratch under a deadline or with corprate morons breathing down his neck. I'm not saying he couldn't do it, its just not the same thing as retro activley fixing something.
Couldn't have been worse than what they did to him already in another DC animated movie, where they redesigned him to look like Abe Lincoln, then had Alfred accidentally kill him.
Swift Nimblefoot You know what I don’t get? Why didn’t Batman Bad Blood ( the movie just you mentioned ) use Spell Binder ( another Batman villain who’s power is mind control ) instead of Jervis?
I thought he was more of a Batman Beyond villain. But yeah, they basically took a LOT of obscure Batman villains from the comics for that movie - The Walrus, Kilelr Moth, Firefly, Electrocutioner - and had them all die in ridiculously convoluted ways where they cause their own or each other's deaths - so Batman's hands stay clean but the villains who know his identity (from Talia) all die so they cannot use it. Bobsheaux should really review these "Damian Movies", I would love to see them finally rip them apart.
2:38 - I wonder if Paul Dini has watched this movie, or the Harley Quinn cartoon series? One has to wonder how he feels about his baby girl's recent portrayals in film and television. 4:06 - So the Floronic Man is Austin Powers? 7:16 - Of all the ways for a cartoon from many peoples' childhoods to grow up with it's older audience, sex jokes are among the cheapest. 11:10 - They also had Hynden Walch to choose from, but they opted for an actress from The Big Bang Theory instead. It wouldn't be the last time that'd happen, either. 12:28 - Isn't it obvious, Bob? Mister J never appreciated her pies. 15:58 - Does one of those friends happen to sound like Audrey II? 16:45 - No, but you can call him your uncle, Harls. 17:20 - All the comedic possibilities with a film starring Harley Quinn, and they go with the easiest gag in the book. 19:58 - Batman: "OK, boys..." All the women in that room: "Ahem!" 20:20 - That's the plot twist of the movie, Bob. Years after his comic series' cancellation, Crazy Steve traveled to the DCAU in spirit and he inhabited this Bruce Wayne's body, officially becoming his third personality. 20:53 - Because this movie wanted to convey that Harley Quinn isn't the same woman-child from The Animated Series. She's let her maturity catch up with her age now, and she don't need no Mister J anymore. This is a grown-up Harley Quinn whom has gotten with the times and won't be anyone's trophy. She's developed and free of her old shackles, just like the viewers who were kids when the show was airing. Or maybe they didn't want her farting again. 21:49 - Doesn't Occam's razor involve simple solutions *and* simple explanations? 28:57 - Swamp Thing's proper DCAU debut, and this is what they had him do. 32:16 - Don't forget Batman: Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Their storytelling is legitimately mature, and those are both family-friendly features.
What about Mask Of The Phantasm? That movie wasn’t just great it also captured the heart and spirit of the original show. It even had a theatrical release.
Honestly, I was kinda looking forward for this movie. But after this review, my mind was like...'WTF?!' Was this film based on a crack fanfic?! This is parody/humor genre in fanfiction section.
"The Joker is your entire reason for being; why are you calling him an asshat?" You do remember that he pushed her through a window, right? Not to mention smacking her off a table, for being able to capture Batman/explain the joke when he didn't get it and for wanting to fuck him???? It's weird you don't get this because I'm pretty sure all of that was highlighted in the same episode with the cream pie scene. Edit: Also, Batman, straight? Ahahahahahhahahhahaa! Bat's is so deep in the closet he's in Narnia.
That club for the villains is the worst thing in this movie. Most of the characters depicted are dead, and the love song between the twins was disgusting.
Hey, Bobsheaux do you think Bruce Timm should step down and let someone else should take over to make a new Batman animated series. Because of this movie sucks and its an insult of Batman TAS.
If you want a outrageous Batman movie that's actually good Batman Ninja is what you're looking for. It's insane but really entertaining. I hope you enjoy it! Also I'm not sure if that ending song is hilarious or just disturbing...
Actually Physiognomy is a real word...[See this link www.google.com/search?q=physiognomy&oq=physiogn&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.7209j1j7&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8] I think the real sin is that the word they were looking for was Physiology though I guess turning from a person into a swamp mutant counts as changing ones ethnicity and character
To be honest, the whole bit with Ivy going for Harley crying isn't as silly as it seems. I have a problem being harsh with people if they start crying or the like (even if I'm furious and they completely deserve it.) And I'm obviously a lot nicer than Poison Ivy. Unfortunately, some people use this to get away with being abusive or the like (not the case here, but it happens.)
It’s just... a big animated fanfiction
Sadly most of our media these days
@@dragonempress8367 But there are regular people who make pretty awesome fanfics than anything paid animators and directors do.
Thankfully, it's not really part of the DCAU, according to a few sources.
A BIG FAT PHONEY!!!!
And it’s awesome. Kind of. Sort of.
What this movie is like seeing your childhood friend after years of being away. He looks the same but acts bitter and tries to hard to be edgy.
But fails miserably and you want to laugh, but realize that doing so would be acknowledging that he's doing this.
Brian Humerez And you wanna tell him something’s wrong, but you know if you do he’ll probably go on a killing spree with yourself being first kill.
Nah, this movie is just like the childhood friend, who can now swear and do dirty things without his parents slapping him on the wrists.
Brian Humerez soo Harry in Amazing Spiderman 2?
I really doubt that. He has always had a lot of sexual tension in his work, he just restrained it due to WB policies. Have you read his unofficial Batman TAS comics? He once did a story where Two-Face gets reformed and as Harvey, dates a girl - and her twin sister manipulates him into crime again and murders and replaces her twin, and Two-face ends up having sex with her but then killing her too after the coin-toss because he does not forgive. This he did decades ago after working on the original show, and it features quite a lot of nudity.
So much cringe. As someone who watched TAS as a kid I and have the box sets, I don't care for this undignified representation of these characters. I'm a Harley fangirl but I really dislike her in this. I can't get past the voice either.
It's a like a horrible embellishment on a work of art sprayed with gold paint over it. I thought Superman: Brainic Attacks was the worst animated movie to use the DCAU style until this one came along.
Dude! You were my childhood channel!
Megamind 2 is actually more cringe than this.
It really irritates me when they include sex jokes in a movie and label that as "mature". Ive been around enough dirty minded bozoes in high school and college to know there is NOTHING mature about sex jokes. Maturity is taking responsablity for your actions, knowing not everything is all black and white, and understanding not everything will go the way u wish but u continue to work hard and make sacrifices because it shapes u into who u will become. THAT is a mature story. THIS is dirty and gritty at best, plain and simple.
That's the problem with Adult Cartoons in general. Profanity and sex jokes=Maturity.
Queenofawesome25 L I dunno, I've seen a couple of suggestive jokes in the Justice League animated series... emphasis on *suggestive,* and not "mind-numbingly obvious".
Here here.
If more people like you were behind the wheel, maybe today's "adult" movies would actually be worth watching, like they used to be. I don't know when society started getting this idea that having a dirty mouth and an equally dirty mind made you mature somehow, but trust me, it doesn't make you mature. It just reflects ill breeding and makes you come across as no more cultured or intelligent than some uneducated thug off the street. REAL maturity is, well, basically everything you just said.
FireLord54 "I don't know when society started getting this idea that having a dirty mouth and an equally dirty mind made you mature somehow, but trust me, it doesn't make you mature."
That's probably because humor isn't a measure of maturity. If you can use humor (even dirty humor) to good effect, then that'd be pretty mature. But if you don't, then you wind up with Harley Quinn passing gas.
I couldn't agree more. I love animation and I'd love for more filmmakers to stop treating it as something exclusively for kids and weird manchildren, but it's hard to convince people that animation can be serious and handle adult themes when films like this treat sex jokes and gratuitous swearing like an instant-ticket to adulthood. Real mature animated movies are movies like The illusionist and Persepolis, that deals with issues like idealism versus the harsh reality and showing that sometimes, dreams doesn't come true even if you work hard, not films trying to be edgy by being gross, full of swearing and violence and have everyone being an unlikable jerk for no reason.
"Do you know what I am?"
"My punishment for not killing the Joker."
Bam. Better line. Took me three seconds.
I'm slightly disappointed Batman Ninja didn't win, if only because I would've loved to see Bob's react to something made a Jojo director.
I wanted to see him review Son of Batman. After his review of the comic and view on Damian Wayne, it would have been fun.
Me and my two boys loved Batman Ninja. It was so out there and my sixteen years old said that it was "Low-key lit".
Batman Ninja was awesome in a weird way, like not actually canon also I'm glad they added Red Hood properly.
You know for all of Killing Joke’s fault, at least the bad stuff was only in the first half while the actual Killing Joke part was decent and well adapted. This movie just screams of desperation and cringe. Instead of the mature writing of Batman: The Animated Series, we have an equivalent of a teenager trying to be edgy with adult jokes. Great video Bobsheaux.
Agreed. Execution was pretty bad, but you could see they were trying to get us to care about Batgirl before she got crippled by the Joker.It’s just her having sex with Batman was just an awful idea.
Not to mention that the first half felt like a completely different movie. How I would have fixed Killing Joke would be simple: get rid of the Batsex entirely and have the Batgirl story have some connection to the Joker so it can segway perfectly into the Killing Joke portion.
These are some great questions and ideas. Really like your views on The Killing Joke.
Bruce Timm just has a bizarre fetish for seeing Bruce and Barbara together. Two characters who really don't belong together and who, even in the stories he pairs them off in, end up resenting each other for the shittiness of the relationship. What is the obsession? I don't get it.
Nightman221k Well much like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Toostie Roll POP, the world may never know.
Woooooooow that ending was out-of-character. Say what you will about Batman killing in BVS, at least we knew from the get-go that Batman took no pleasure from it and he re-learned the value of mercy. But Batman gleefully setting a villain on fire? That's ASBAR levels of terrible.
That doesn't really kill him, y'know. They are in a SWAMP. He can just put himself out. Plus this is the same Batman who had Clayface dissolve in water. He allows more violence against those who are not mere humans and can take more punishment. He did shoot the guy with lightning before... Floronic Man can regenerate pretty fast.
Still, fire is probably gonna kill him….
Re-learned the value of mercy?
To quote AVGN in his Star Trek episode, "mercy this, motherf*cker!"
Its feels we are watching Bruces Timm fanfiction movie. Because there no way that batman and nightwing kisses harley's cheek at same time. Unless there are under Poison ivy's influence
More proof that Bruce Timm is turning into Frank Miller...
@@MichaelBurmy all we need more violence, repeat dialogue and sexualized buildings
You need to rewatch Batman TAS/TNBA, 'cause sillier things have happened on that show.
WUT? Where?
Detective Comics #823. Still remains the worst comic I've ever read.
Worse still, if you ask Dini about it on Twitter, he will BLOCK your ass.
Dini's a fucking sexist pig and a shit writer.
You literally can't go two minutes without a dirty joke in this movie oh my *god*
I'm half-tempted to just rewrite the whole movie
I mean seriously did we really need the Harley Quinn r*pe scene ???
THis is literally Harley Quinn (2019) but it was the prototype.
Just from this review, the movie seems like bad fan-fiction. It steals elements and premises from the Animated Series, throws in "edgy" and "mature" fan-service material that conflicts with the goofier elements (thrown in as a different kind of fan-service), and feels way too indulgent.
I'd be tempted to review this on my own channel, but I'd probably blackout from the many moments that'd have me slamming my head against the nearest wall.
20:27 you know how they could’ve made the bar scene better? While Harley Quinn is singing her song, nightwing and Batman get attacked by the henchmen, and while Harley is singing, Batman and nightwing are kicking some major ass! Then the scene would end with the guy giving Harley what she needs, and when she says she got what they need, we see the aftermath of Batman and nightwing fighting A BAR FULL OF HENCHMEN, like Batman and nightwing once or twice got hit with a chair, and they have some cuts and bruises and Harley acts like getting the info was a piece of cake while Batman and nightwing had to fight for their lives.She walks out skipping, and Batman does his usual Batman Hurm.
But no.
Just out side shot of a bar with terrible 60 Batman joke.
I like your idea better!!
@@nathanblevins158thanks! 😁
Just a nitpick but I don’t like how they gave Nightwing’s mask pupils. It does the job fine without them, maybe better even.
Also why does everything that wants to be pg-13 or R automatically jump to sex to get their rating? I can’t stand it.
My thoughts exactly, gross jokes won't make something mature, if anything, it's a sign of immaturity. Probably one of the darkest parts of any animated movie I've seen was from Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame, where there's a montage of Judge Frollo and his guards tear up the city while rounding up gypsies and anyone accused of aiding them, culminating in Frollo setting a house on fire with a family locked inside, and that movie was rated G. There's actually not much violence in the montage and we never actually see anyone explicitly get injured on screen, yet that scene still sends chills up my spine even as an adult. That's how you make a mature movie, not by adding gross sex jokes and swearing.
I really would like an animated Nightwing series. Loren Lester or Scott Menville would be good leads.
If anything, the pupils and such with the contrast makes you think he's blind (imagine that crossover: Nightwing as Daredevil!)
Rob Paulsen singing "Don't Pull Your Love" with himself was the highlight of this movie. Especially since he did this after recovering from Stage 3 Throat Cancer.
God bless him
Love this man
Wait, Rob Paulsen? As in Yakko Warner???
@@ChaseMC215 yes. As well as Pinky of Pinky & The Brain, Raphael in the 1987 version and Donatello in the 2012 version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
If I had a nickel for every time Rob Paulsen took over a voice role originally done by Micky Dolenz, I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Moral of the story: you should of just watch Scooby-Doo & Batman The Brave and the Bold. That film showcase more care for the Batman series it was base on and manage to pull off legitimate serious scenes in spite of its very lighthearted nature.
Um, no offenses, but they are just a bunch of ordinary teenagers and a talking dog who solved the mystery of having people in Halloween costumes all because of money and revenge for what they did to them and having a lot of goofy hijinx and wacky shenanigans. Seriously, what can they possibly do to help superheroes?
I know it's nostalgia, but the Scooby gang is useless. When it comes to certain things that are way out of their league, like going up against real supervillains all by themselves and possibly anything supernatural.
Honestly, the leader is a bit of an idiot and a terrible leader when it comes to having the team split up and looking for clues. If they were going up against real supernatural threats, like Jason Voorhees or Freddy Krueger, they die in a couple of minutes, and not to mention that his traps don't work that much. The girl in the group has always gotten kidnaped, and she doesn't contribute much to the team. Until years later, some of her incarnations are useful to the team. The brain of the group is such a know-it-all smug. She is the only valid member of the team, she's a better example of being a detective than the other members, but she can't handle things all by herself just like others. Finally, you have the hippy and the dog, who are not only cowards, who are not the smartest in the group, and the only thing they are good at are eating a lot and being bait for the monsters. I know some of the members have skills of their own in other versions of themselves, I am just going to talk about what the members are known for in most versions and even though some of the members have talent is still not enough to help superheroes when comes to handling supervillains especially, handling the most dangerous villains in D.C comics. If it was the darker version of the superheroes. Not only there incredibly useless to help them, but they are going to be in the way of doing their job of being superheroes while having to be saved all the time of their action. When it comes to superhero team-ups, the writers have some changes by dumbing down the heroes so the Mystery Gang can be equals, like in the New Scooby-Doo movies, Superfriends, and Scooby-Doo and Guess Who? So, it can be entertaining by pleasing the audience. In other words, they are so useless when it comes to handling something real, which is not a guy or a woman in a Halloween costume that's trying to scare someone all because of greed or revenge for something that they did to them.
When it comes to some situations, they can barely handle the supernatural. Here are some examples of the Scooby Gang manages supernatural threats. In Zombie Island, all they did was try to stay alive from the cat people until there out of time. In Witch's Ghost, they didn't do anything to get rid of the witch. It was thanks to Thorn from the Hex girls who saved the day. All the gang did was try to make sure the Ravencrofts should not get the book. These films had real supernatural threats, and they did absolutely nothing to handle them. Also, in Scooby-natural, they didn't do much, and they had no idea to manage a real ghost. It was all thanks to the Supernatural team, who did all the work, and at the end of the special, the Supernatural team lied to them, so they will go back to doing what they always do. In the Goblin King, the other members don't know what they're up against; it took Shaggy and Scooby-Doo to save the day with a couple of magical items of what they have.
You might as well face it, no matter what you're going to say about trying to defend the Mystery Gang. It is still not enough for them to handle impossible things, such as managing something that is real, without having any help from people who are better than them in everything. The only thing they are good at is, handling people in Halloween costumes.
@@magnaknight9252 You forget the power of Shaggy.
@@rainingtacos7529 That's is just a stupid meme.
@@magnaknight9252 That's what he wants you to think.
@@rainingtacos7529 Of what? It’s just a stupid meme.
As wrong as this movie got the animated series universe, I think they were trying to say this story was from Harley's pov. Which is why the characters are wrong, the back stories are wrong and the humor is bad. BUT the creators didn't fully commit to this idea, thus we got a hodge podge. A bad, bad hodge podge...
Huh...that would've been an interesting movie. 😯
Travelbound Now when you put it like that, the movie probably should have started with Batman meeting Harley for a talk (you think of the reason) and their recalling the time they had to team up in this. But Harley is doing the talking which means it's coming from her POV and that's why things seem a little off at first because it's how she remembers it not how Batman does.
No... She has better humor than this movie.
harley: and thats how i saved the entire world
inmate: that story was bullshit
i have a better question, how come all those thugs at the bar didn't threaten to beat up batman as soon as he first stepped inside
'cause they have sense not to attack the guy who beats them up on a regular basis? They needed far more booze and a song to get their courage up.
And we wouldn’t have gotten the great incest and gay music number with Min and Max
"I never knew, that our romance have ended. Until you've poisoned my food" That has to be the most awkward song I've heard Bobsheaux used in his openings when he shows the videos thumbnail before the review. LOL
Sadly(?), Rob Paulsen's cover of Hamiliton, Joe Frank & Reynolds' "Don't Pull Your Love" was the surprising HIGH point of the film.
1. I thought Min & Max were dead? (In "Two-Face, Pt. 2"-their only BTAS appearance, as soon as Rupert Thorne captures Two-Face, he implies that he had his goons kill them). Then again, it does show Captain Clown and Randa Duane revived and dancing together, so maybe they "un-died" too...
2. They were originally voiced by Micky Dolenz (yes, the one from the Monkees) in "Two-Face, Pt. 2"...which makes this the second time a character originally voiced by Dolenz has had Paulsen as their new voice. (The first was Arthur in between Seasons 1 and 2 of The Tick)
That was the best part IMO.
Best cover song ever!
Especially since Rob Paulsen performed it after recovering from Stage 3 Throat Cancer.
Imagine if he did that as Yakko Warner. Because the one thing he likes doing is signing, right? After all Rob Paulsen did sing the Countries of the World song in one take for the original 90's run of Animaniacs. (Supposedly. I don't know, I saw the fact in a comment for a 107 facts video about the original show's run)
The fart joke actually got me. Because i imagine Batman is trying so hard to keep his image.
This movie need to be sent to Arkham for its crimes and madness.
It's almost as if Joker himself wrote this movie.
even he isn't that crazy
@@hurricanefury439yes he is
13:57 Robin: Uh I need an adult.
Harley: I am an adult
"Joker don't wear no makeup!" Man, I miss Kevin Micheal Richardson's Joker. His design was so fun.
In defense of Two-Face's goons, I wouldn't say they're singing about loving each other romantically, they're just sort of performing the song they sing which is still about loving a girl... although now that you mention the context of said performance is rather iffy.
This movie man... It's like the equivalent of your favourite singer doing another live concert years after their last despte having grievances with their latest album(Bruce Timmy's the Killing Joke) and the first thing that happens is that he/she shits their underwear on stage. It is one thing for their current work to be below the standards of the older ones they've done but it is another thing when they butcher your favourite song(the DCAU being that song) on stage.
And believe me, seeing that happening on stage is embarrassing to watch. Sort of like the humour and the depiction of Harley Quinn in the movie.
15:00 "Ain't it always the way? You get in the mood and company shows up!" -The Joker, "Batman: Mask of the Phantasm"
Can I just say that Nightwing's eyes are *really* distracting to me? They just look so weird, they should have kept them as pure white, not add in those stupid looking circles for pupils
6:18 So, I was curious and looked up "physiognomy." From Wikipedia "[physiognomy] can also refer to the general appearance of a person, object, or terrain without reference to its implied characteristics-as in the physiognomy of an individual plant (see plant life-form) or of a plant community (see vegetation)."
So, this isn't a case of bad writing. That said, there's plenty more examples of actual bad writing throughout the rest of the movie.
YEah, that's odd that Bob didn't recognize the word, though it's definitely super obscure
11:10 actually, they should’ve gotten Hynden walch, not only did she sound similar to the original voice actress, but the voice she provided was also new.
as someone is a HUGE Batman fan and LOVED Batman the Animated Series I'd found Batman & Harley Quinn to be a Huge Disappointment at least with The Killing Joke it stayed true to it's sourced materiel with and they had Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill to reprise there roles and they got away with a hard R Rated Batman animated movie But with this feels like an insult to the Animated series take my advice stick with The Killing Joke Hell GO with Batman Ninja or even Mask of the Phantasum over this Shit!
Personally, Ninja Batman is just as bad as this movie just for different reasons. (Kind of, there's plenty of sexist flandarizing of Harley in that too.)
DAM Right Killing Joke is better
Do you think Bruce Timm should step down and let someone else should take over to make a new Batman animated series? Because of this movie sucks and its an insult of Batman TAS.
@@magnaknight9252 yes I do think he needs to step down
12:38, it is explained in the prequel comic that Joker basically left her for dead after she ruined one of his schemes. So she goes with Poison Ivy and she botches that too so she basically decides to give up and go straight
Actually in the comics Harley left him. Harley messed one of joker scheme ON PURPOSE so he would try to kill her ( her messed up too get his attention) but when joker acts like he doesn't care she gets pissed and leaves.
Either way, it proves that the Joker didn't give two shits about Harley. This is why in the Harley Quinn animated show, Mr J just straight up didn't bother to break her out of Arkham Asylum in the first episode, instead Poison Ivy staged a riot in Arkham just to get Harley out, albeit not without the lovable harlequin yapping about how the Joker will save her when Poison Ivy knows that he stopped caring about her.
The weirdest thing about a Power Girl costume being at that hooters bar is that Power Girl's actually not supposed to exist in this universe. The closest Bruce Timm's DCAU ever got to her was a Supergirl clone named Galatea.
I thought the word effects are meant to appear when a fight is ONSCREEN 🤦♂️ even I know that and I wasn’t alive in the 60’s!
17:34 If you honestly believe that, then you have no idea the kinda garbage Tara Strong has been attached to.
She called the Joker an asshat because by this point she'd REALIZED that the Joker was an abusive monster, escaped him (and he possibly also died) and she'd moved on with her life. We even see in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker that she's long since reformed and is appalled by the idea of her granddaughters turning to crime and working with her abusive ex. Aside from that, though, every criticism you had for this dumpster fire was dead-on. Great review!
But also in Return of The Joker we see Joker's death, and the same night was Harley's actual last encounter with Batman. She almost died and was never seen again by the Bat family, presumed death.
So, this movie must be before that.
Yes, we see her old, reformed and alive at the end of ROTJ, but the Bat family still doesn't know she's alive.
@@Alejandroigarabideexactly. This Batman and Harley Quinn movie does not fit in with the DCAU… it’s garbage….
@@walkingcubkid
Even the Harley Quinn animated show was better than this, and it doesn't fit in the DCAU (for obvious reasons)
Why is it that the 90s animated characters are better than the modern versions of them?
That Nightwing and Harley shipping just came out of nowhere. wth?
19:21 that made me laugh.
harleys redemption arc in this movie causes confusion with the flashback in return of the joker depending on what the timeline is supposed to be it would cause this to make no sense if she went from being reformed to suddenly going back to the joker and helping him torture and brainwash tim drake
I’m surprised the movie doesn’t mention that Harley and Ivy were a couple.
In TAS they were just friends.
With the amount of all the god damn sex joke. Am also surprise, like not even a hint of them being gay.
Crew: Alright Ms Walch, we'd like you to voice Harley in our new movie.
Hynden: Sure.
(at the table reading)
*Harley farts*
Hynden: Nope.
Crew: Alright, let's try Tara Strong.
Tara: Sure, I'd love to play Harley.
(at the table reading)
*Harley farts*
Tara: *sigh* whatever, I'm not below this kind of humor.
Batman: Smells like discipline.
Tara: That's it, I'm out!
Crew: "Goddamnit! Alright, who else do we got? Oh, I know who should play Harley Quinn! That chick from The Big Bang Theory! Send in Melissa Rauch!"
Melissa: "Ooh, i'd love to play Harley Quinn! So, what do I have to work with?"
*Harley farts*
Batman: "Smells like discipline."
Melissa: "Perfect! I'm in!"
Crew: "Yay!"
Even if this was meant to be a standalone movie, it fails since it doesn't allow you to connect with the characters.
I think Tara Strong was busy doing either My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic in her native Canada, Teen Titans Go or the final season of The Fairly OddParents. That might explain why she wasn't Harley Quinn in this movie.
TTG was beneath her
*Bobsheaux .... The Svengoolie Of Bad cartoons!*
(That fart joke made me cringe so bad, But at least this wasn’t as bad as mule moms, ugh)
This film just reminds me a lot of Superman Brainiac Attacks. That film heavily recycled the character designs from Superman TAS and some of the voice actors but had a terrible plot. The only differences are that Bruce Timm didn’t work on that film and it had 100% less sex jokes.
Haha, Yeah, it was so BIZARRE seeing a dopey man-child version of Lex Luthor with the same exact design as the serious and calculating Lex of STAS and Justice League/JLU.
Nightman221k it was even MORE bizarre that the movie came out after JLU ended so what happened?!
This is what happens when you're watching Mystery science theater 3k on YT you end up clicking on video after video and then eventually wind up clicking on a movie review channel and I'm not complaining I actually really love this channel.
Did M Night Shymalan take over the dialoge part by the end? They could so easily made Swampthing's arrival be the closing part, but nope deliver a speech and bail.
25:25 Wait, was her mask painted on? I always thought it was supposed to be a carnival mask she wore on top of her makeup.
10:32, uh they clearly explain in the movie with a big ass sign "You can look all you want, but don't touch the girls."
These pervs see in their minds an add-on (to paraphrase the Simpsons): "Or do touch them-I'm a sign, not a bouncer."
Pretty sure after Harley broke the dude's wrist they won't. also pretty sure it actually translates as "Don't Touch or they can beat the shit out of you and not get in trouble.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 even if she break that guys hand. We all know they won't stop, not saying that all guy are prev. But in this moive it very clear that there are guy who don't give a shit and just want to touch for the hell of it.
Even if Batman tried to pull some strings to have her hired in the mental health profession, (which I don't think that even at his kindest and most generous would agree to that), most people wouldn't trust her with such a position considering her history. He could've gotten her a more respectable position than what she had though.
12:29 Entire reason for being. I agree. Come to think of it, why didn't they bring back Mark Hamill as the Joker in this?
Mark retired his bit from the Joker voice back in about 2013, 4 years before this movie.
Yes he had returned once more to do the Killing Joke, but that was a promise he originally made back when, since he loved that specific comic book and would love to have his name attached however he could manage.
Must be a Batsheaux!!!! What's this? Bob is not dressed as Batsy? What the hell?? Plus, Raven n Bob need something from DC to binge. MAy I suggest the 1990s Flash? It has Mark Hamill in it.
Sean Bateman
To be honest Mark Hamill episodes are and will be the only time I will watch The Flash (no disrespect to the show it's just you can't say Mark Hamill isn't your favorite thing in The Flash).... which is why Mark Hamill should Reprise the role of The Trickster as the main villain for a Live Action DCEU/World's Of DC Flash Movie.
plus Mr. Hamill does play the Joker right in Batsy the animated series
Wait. "Ow, my balls." was actually in the movie? That wasn't a PhotoShop trick?
That wasn't me using my amazing editing powers... That was the movie ITSELF... *facepalm*
Bobsheaux Wait really? Holy moly guccamoli with extra cheese and peppironi
Can we just take a moment to talk about how dreadful Melissa Rauch is as Harley Quinn? Like yeesh, she's a decent actress and all, but her Harley Quinn voice is abysmal, she sounds like a 50-year-old woman doing a bad Arleen Sorkin impression. It's painful to listen to, and it's only accentuated by having her act opposite Kevin Conroy and Loren Lester, which just highlights how wrong Harley's voice sounds. But I'm not a fan of Tara Strong in the role either. Tara Strong is an amazing voice actress and on paper, she sounds like a great choice for Harley, but whenever she plays the roles she goes way overboard with it and makes Harley sound like a whiny little girl when she could do just fine by using her normal voice with a Brooklyn-ish accent. My preferred choice has always been Hynden Walch.
Was Batman trying to say ‘Physiology’?
Ok to bring this up real quick, the creators said, even when the movie was announced, that it doesn’t actually take place in the DCAU despite it sharing the same art style. This movie takes place in its own separate universe like the second Tenchi Muyo movie, Daughter of Darkness.
Also the reason they didint had tara strong because she was still voiceing for 2 episodes of mlp
"That Lady Shiva, wouldn't say no to that pie"
Is... Is that supposed to be David Cain? The armor looks the part, New 52-era Cain had a mechanical hand, he obviously wants to bone Lady Shiva. What... What just an odd, completely directionless choice.
11:47 Peter: That shield does not obey the laws of physics.
To answer your last question in the credits, as long as the story properly sets it up, I don't think it matters. I think of the ending of Batman: Arkham Knight (SPOILERS ABOUND...for a game that's a few years old...) before he reveals himself to Scarecrow. He's fighting a horde of hallucinations of Joker, and it ends with him snapping the Joker's neck. He falls to his knees, he knew he crossed that blood-red line. This may also be the catalyst for him activating the Knightfall Protocol once you finish everything up - if he killed (a hallucination of) the Joker, how much further can he go? How many people would he kill?
Other observations:
-In the comics Batman does goes to Med School mostly to learn about Forensics.
-I totally agree with you, you can't burn the Photonic Man, besides he has a large body of water right in front of him he can just jump there which is what he needs to spread the virus
-Harley is probably a lousy psychiatrist anyway even if her title is real, at least according to the comics she sleept with her teachers for her grade.
Didn’t linkara also cover the Batman storyline where Floronic Man tried to take over the world by getting everyone high?
Another issue...this creates a major PLOTHOLE in the DCAU timeline.
Remember, Harley's still in her ol' gig as the Joker's paramour during the flashback events of "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker"...during the battle, after her fall, she was PRESUMED DEAD (even though we, the audience, find out she survived later on)...so if this took place after the events of the RotJ flashback, Batman & Nightwing (who would be solely in Blüdhaven at this point) shouldn't know she's even alive.
If this took place before the events of the RotJ Flashback...then how did ol' Puddin' woo her back?
This film takes place after that. It’s why the joker and Tim Drake are both absent.
@@jordancooper1592 But after the flashback scene ended, Commissioner Gordon (Barbara, that is) implied that Harley was presumed dead from then onwards (though we see she survived near the end, possibly assuming a new name)
@@MichaelBurmy it’s possible that Barbara just said that to protect Harley’s identity as she’d turned over a new leaf. Barbara’s no fool and if Harley Quinn was still alive and living in Gotham she’d definitely know about it somehow.
@@jordancooper1592 But none of the Bat-Family would be in ANY mood to deal with her again after how she helped her Puddin' in that...remember, this crossed SEVERAL lines, to the point where Batman looked willing to break his One Rule on the Joker.
@@MichaelBurmy he had no choice, they needed her to find Ivy.
Did you know the episode where we learn about Harley's past in the animated series has it's own comic book?
In that version it shows Harley actually earned her degree because of "special favors" for her teachers and maybe even the principal.
Just thought you should know.
Yep, that was in the TAS comics too as I recall. She got into psychology because it was "hip" at the time... she wanted to work with the Joker and get famous.
As someone who has grew up with the Batman animated series this movie is a pile of dogshit. I am so glad I didn't watch this movie
This movie wants so bad to be "Harley's Holiday" meets "Harley and Ivy". But it's failing miserably.
You could tell this movie was gonna suck when they didn't even get Tara Strong to voice Harley. Instead they got Bernadette from the Big Bang Theory....And I'm still wondering why
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Why doesn't Hynden Walch ever get any recognition.... I mean I love Tara Strong as much as the next guy but I believe Hyndens Harley Quinn is just as good.
Hynden Walch retired from voice acting. Ergo, Tara Strong is the only option that makes sense.
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That's Arleen Sorkins the original Harley Quinn you are thinking of... Hynden Walch Is still voice acting she plays the role of Starfire on Teen Titans Go
Hynden Walch's Harley sounds way more natural to me than Tara's Harley voice does. Tara's gotten better (In Justice League Action and DC Superhero Girls she sounds really good) but she started out her time as Harley in Arkham City sounding really irritating and fake; where as I've liked Hynden's voice as Harley in everything she's voiced her in.
They didn't even get Diane Pershing to return as Poison Ivy.
Man, Such awesome potential Wasted! And this is coming from someone who has the first seasons of Batman TAS in DVD. (Wich, by the way, I bought them for 2.99$ when my local Blockbuster closed in 2016. I miss that Place).
Think I'll just stick with Mask of the phantasm.
Bob...I'm not gonna lie... When I witnessed Harley Quinn's fart scenes at 17:22 and 22:28...I LAUGHED... I'm of the opinion they're not funny, yet I laughed anyway... Do I really have that poor of a taste in humor? D:
No. I smiled at it. This is no where near the worst thing I've seen.
I thought it was funny because it's ridiculous that a fart joke was in a Batman film.
Nah, I've laughed at my fair share of dumb humor. I even consider shock humor an art form of sorts (when it's done correctly).
I didn't laugh at those particular jokes, but I don't blame you for laughing at them.
I'll admit that I laughed, but it was more schadenfreude at the writers being such idiots that they legitimately put a fart joke in their "gritty" movie than the joke itself.
Colin Warmbrodt sometimes it can be funny and everyone’s sense of humour is different
Y'know, with all the stupid childish jokes and animations here, I'd expect this to be a Scooby Doo movie.
Which isn't a compliment to Scooby Doo because I like Scooby Doo and Batman.
Hell, Batman Vs Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles had childish jokes and comedy... But the jokes were actually funny and they landed. Because they all came from Mikey. Not Batman or Damian. And when they did, they worked. Damian getting upset about not being able to press any buttons in the Batmobile is funny and especially the scene where Batman says "Cowabunga!"
so Harley saved the day... with Kim Possible's puppy dog pout.
Ironically, this is one of the most immature movies ever made.
I never knew that "Batman and Harley Quinn" was so disliked until now. After watching this episode, I can totally see why. 😒
Speaking of this episode, I watched it on a Thursday... *and* a Friday! 😂
Well that was a pointless cameo. My reaction to him showing up was: "Oh yeah, he was in this movie and I totally didn't forget he existed."
I...WOW. Just...WOW. This movie...was just them trying to cash in on the nostalgia and good will of the stellar and excellent, practically timeless Batman The Animated Series. Really, the ending with them both kissing Harley and then LIGHTING THE FLOURONIC MAN ON FIRE!? REALLY!?
Batman WANTING to get into a fight without his utility belt! Harely SCHTUPPING Nightwing?! I think I threw up a little good lord this movie is a joke.
What i think its amazing it brings back the classic even the cars that they animate is old and blood
What gets me about Swamp Thing
Is that they use him the same way twice back to back in DC Animated Films
He gets used about the same way in Justice League Dark
Also Batman has roughed up Woodrew
(Particularly cutting his head off)
Because Lethal Force really doesn't kill Fluronic Man
Hell, lighting the dude on fire wouldn't kill him either
Batman only ever resorts to such tactics when he knows non lethal force won't stop something/are unkillable
Well there’s:
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@jbiehlable probably doesn't help that the people correcting them tend to do it in an asshole-ish demeanor.
This movie would make a whole lot more sense if everything was the events as basically filter through the perspective of Harley Quinn. She basically detached enough from reality that she is basically interprets things differently from what they actually are.
Ugh this movie
With all of the points and changes you've suggested I'm surprised that you don't work for DC and Warner Bros Bob
Mazingersaurus88 They don't like talent.
Not to defend the writers of this (or shit on Bob I respect the hell out of the guy) but we havent seen him tell a story from scratch under a deadline or with corprate morons breathing down his neck. I'm not saying he couldn't do it, its just not the same thing as retro activley fixing something.
@@playererror4044 I know but hey a man can dream right?
At least the animation is decent....?
(Shudders) I can only imagine what this movie would have done to the Mad Hatter if he was in this movie.
I can't help but imagine a ton of inappropriate/out-of-character pedophile jokes... -_-
Wait a second. YOU'VE SEEN MXC!?
Couldn't have been worse than what they did to him already in another DC animated movie, where they redesigned him to look like Abe Lincoln, then had Alfred accidentally kill him.
Swift Nimblefoot You know what I don’t get? Why didn’t Batman Bad Blood ( the movie just you mentioned ) use Spell Binder ( another Batman villain who’s power is mind control ) instead of Jervis?
I thought he was more of a Batman Beyond villain. But yeah, they basically took a LOT of obscure Batman villains from the comics for that movie - The Walrus, Kilelr Moth, Firefly, Electrocutioner - and had them all die in ridiculously convoluted ways where they cause their own or each other's deaths - so Batman's hands stay clean but the villains who know his identity (from Talia) all die so they cannot use it. Bobsheaux should really review these "Damian Movies", I would love to see them finally rip them apart.
She called Joker that because of how abusive he is.
2:38 - I wonder if Paul Dini has watched this movie, or the Harley Quinn cartoon series? One has to wonder how he feels about his baby girl's recent portrayals in film and television.
4:06 - So the Floronic Man is Austin Powers?
7:16 - Of all the ways for a cartoon from many peoples' childhoods to grow up with it's older audience, sex jokes are among the cheapest.
11:10 - They also had Hynden Walch to choose from, but they opted for an actress from The Big Bang Theory instead. It wouldn't be the last time that'd happen, either.
12:28 - Isn't it obvious, Bob? Mister J never appreciated her pies.
15:58 - Does one of those friends happen to sound like Audrey II?
16:45 - No, but you can call him your uncle, Harls.
17:20 - All the comedic possibilities with a film starring Harley Quinn, and they go with the easiest gag in the book.
19:58 - Batman: "OK, boys..."
All the women in that room: "Ahem!"
20:20 - That's the plot twist of the movie, Bob. Years after his comic series' cancellation, Crazy Steve traveled to the DCAU in spirit and he inhabited this Bruce Wayne's body, officially becoming his third personality.
20:53 - Because this movie wanted to convey that Harley Quinn isn't the same woman-child from The Animated Series. She's let her maturity catch up with her age now, and she don't need no Mister J anymore. This is a grown-up Harley Quinn whom has gotten with the times and won't be anyone's trophy. She's developed and free of her old shackles, just like the viewers who were kids when the show was airing. Or maybe they didn't want her farting again.
21:49 - Doesn't Occam's razor involve simple solutions *and* simple explanations?
28:57 - Swamp Thing's proper DCAU debut, and this is what they had him do.
32:16 - Don't forget Batman: Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. Their storytelling is legitimately mature, and those are both family-friendly features.
Didn't terra strong star in drawn together. Wouldn't say that this is beneath her.
Random Question. You ever if Tara Strong was named after the Tara in Gone With The Wind?
You ever if?
Grammar 100
People wanted more harley... Thats what they got :(
16:02 Really a Racist Joke in a Batman animated movie? I'd thought they were better then this come on
6:32 No, he said "physiognomy"; a person's facial features or expressions.
What about Mask Of The Phantasm? That movie wasn’t just great it also captured the heart and spirit of the original show. It even had a theatrical release.
Honestly, I was kinda looking forward for this movie. But after this review, my mind was like...'WTF?!' Was this film based on a crack fanfic?! This is parody/humor genre in fanfiction section.
"The Joker is your entire reason for being; why are you calling him an asshat?"
You do remember that he pushed her through a window, right? Not to mention smacking her off a table, for being able to capture Batman/explain the joke when he didn't get it and for wanting to fuck him????
It's weird you don't get this because I'm pretty sure all of that was highlighted in the same episode with the cream pie scene.
Edit: Also, Batman, straight? Ahahahahahhahahhahaa! Bat's is so deep in the closet he's in Narnia.
That club for the villains is the worst thing in this movie. Most of the characters depicted are dead, and the love song between the twins was disgusting.
4:16 Don't forget that one time he tried to get people high!
17:38 and it's not beneath Kevin Conroy?
Hey, Bobsheaux do you think Bruce Timm should step down and let someone else should take over to make a new Batman animated series. Because of this movie sucks and its an insult of Batman TAS.
10:20: Eh, I would of gone with 'Power-Hooters'
If you want a outrageous Batman movie that's actually good Batman Ninja is what you're looking for. It's insane but really entertaining. I hope you enjoy it!
Also I'm not sure if that ending song is hilarious or just disturbing...
Actually Physiognomy is a real word...[See this link www.google.com/search?q=physiognomy&oq=physiogn&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.7209j1j7&client=ms-android-sprint-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8]
I think the real sin is that the word they were looking for was Physiology though I guess turning from a person into a swamp mutant counts as changing ones ethnicity and character
To be honest, the whole bit with Ivy going for Harley crying isn't as silly as it seems. I have a problem being harsh with people if they start crying or the like (even if I'm furious and they completely deserve it.) And I'm obviously a lot nicer than Poison Ivy. Unfortunately, some people use this to get away with being abusive or the like (not the case here, but it happens.)
Hooray it’s working now😅 it was a bit scary not being able to watch it sooner 😅