I just realized my dad’s style was almost identical to Don Carter’s. Dad was a damn good bowler too. Several 300’s but his biggest accomplishment was 1112 4 game series. Miss you dad.
YES! Everyone dressed to kill and Buck really knows the game. I watch the old timers all the time and i had my best year bowling this year at 61 yrs old.
Amazingly I bowled with Don Carter and his wife Paula, on a league in Miami Florida at his 24 hour lanes, Don Carter’s Kendall Lanes back while he was still bowling. Great times. He was a true gentleman and sportsman.
Of all the things that didn't happen This DEFINTELY didn't happen. Carter would probably be like 100 today, so you're probably like 70 or 80 which I very much doubt
My greatest moment in bowling was in 1964 at the Northern California Open PBA Tournament at Country Club Lanes , Watt Ave in Sacramento ,Calif. On lanes 5-6 I kept score for Don Carter
Don Carter in his prime was the best bowler I ever saw! He was extremely confident and threw a semi-roller that "dove" into the pocket. During his prime they used to call his pocket action "Carter Magic"! I always felt his change to Ebonite was a mistake.
@@_1ben What ball did you prefer? Brunswick had the fantastic Crown Jewel line. Manhattan Rubber was phenomenal. AMF had the Amflite line that seemed to carry light hits like no other.
@@20alphabet I am glad you asked , you must be a kegler? As a Jr. I ave 183 . I quit at 16. I am 65 now thinking I would tear it up I joined up and 198 now with the same ball as a Jr. Manhattan rubber, I tried a new hammer . 3 different shops to fit very frustrating went back to the proper fit Manhattan, I am amazed seeing people average over 200 today wouldn’t average a 170 BUT there are more better bowlers today, and your story?
@@_1ben So you averaged 183 as a junior with hard rubber on wood, not many can say that. I have a grandson near your age. Been bowling most of my life, over eighty years now, but haven't bowled since this virus fiasco has taken hold of everything. I had a business, and toured when I could over a twenty year stretch, was lucky enough to bowl with gentlemen who were good for the game, and knew the game. Of course I don't know where you are but far fewer people here in California are bowling than back then. Bowling allies have closed at an alarming rate everywhere. And whereas most were open 24 hours including the coffee shop, only one I know of remains. Shift leagues, housewife leagues, nurseries in the bowling allies... all gone because of the lack of participation. Saturday morning junior and bantams with five man teams, which took up most if not all the lanes is all but defunct. What used to be a family interest, mom and dad in a league, kids also in league, has been diminished to the level of miniature golf. Regarding your trouble with finding a decent ball driller, I share your grief. The one fellow I'd gone to since the 1970s passed away last year. Only a select few know what to do with a big thumb, lol.
I wish pba bowling was like this for a few t.v. shows, the commentiors was so close to the bowlsers and had very little space and you can here everything the commentiors say It would be awesome 😎.
Watching this brings home to me how much manners actually matter. Freedom always brings responsibility and it seems that many times today the ratio is off. Fun to watch.
Don Carter was my bowling hero back in the day. Being a lefty, I became a big fan of the late, great, Earl Anthony. I always thought of Earl as the left-handed Don Carter. Sure seemed 'odd', Don using something other that the black rubber ball he always used.
@@cats0182 Yes they are and Jack Buck was WAY better than little Joey boy....and Don Carter is to bowling what Arnold Palmer is to golf. The both made their sports popular, and they both not only were great at their sports; they were great gentlemen, too.....Talent, class and character.....you'll find very, very few athletes like that these days....goes with the times we're in....downhill !
JOE BUCK ... HE PROBABLY NEVER PLAYED ORGANIZED WIFFLE BALL.....VERY LUCKY THAT HIS FATHER JACK BUCK MADE IT EASY BEING A ANNOUNCER ..PREFERING ANYONE WHO HAS PLAYED THE SPORT TO GIVE US MORE OF THE INSIDE PLAY BY PLAY .. JOE BUCK SUXS ...
Bowling was way ahead of golf--more my game--on TV from these days. Obviously it's a lot easier and cheaper to do. Very little of 50s and 60s golf to see, and most of that just exhibition play, and highlights.
this is the first time i can remember watching Mr. Carter bowl in my 60 years. Im kind of stunned, talk about bad posture. looks painful and i have read that it caught up with him. One of a kind, and hey, it worked bigtime. must be that glove…
I noticed Mr Carter is using that special edition gold crown ball. I’d be willing to bet he was required by the sponsor Brunswick to use it during this show for promotional purposes. Jack and Whitey are continually plugging it throughout the show. This is the only video of him I’ve ever seen using one of these. Probably not his first choice of ball to use. Could be one of the reasons he was not at his best. He even mentions that he had some difficulty getting out of it clean on release but pulled up short of blaming Brunswick’s feature product for his performance. It was probably drilled up for him a few hours before the show. He is a real class act.
those balls hooked a lot more than the hard rubber balls of the era. they were not as good as the Columbia 300s that came along a few years later but an underrated ball nonetheless.
@@MrBhresko The Crown Jewels in the early to mid 1960s were better than the Columbias. The Yellow Dot was Columbias attempt to match the old Crown Jewels, and excepting quality, did a fair job.
I think of those 100-game monster tournaments, of which Carter win four, had continued throughout the 60's, he'd have won a few more. He was able to hold his form so consistently throughout the long haul. I wonder whether there would be quite d I much comment about this "decline". Those marathons, rather than the 3-game format for television, was his great strength.
I noticed how Don holds his ball when he first aims it's up high and just before he does the approach it comes down from the aim point to be near his body now if you watch this motion from behind if you can see the ball he's not going strike if you can't se it he will .
Don Carter is considered the greatest bowler of all time, and projected an honest self effacing humility, accepting complete blame for his miserable series, but watching him on this match it might be easy to see why his great success did not last through the mid sixties. Frankly, he threw a dead ball even by the standards of that era, and his accuracy was off, but he surely was one of the greatest ever- just did not see it this afternoon.
+multicaruana The name of the game for Don Carter was "control". Accuracy for him was achieved through great timing. His hook was minimal, but as long as his timing was strong he could beat anyone else. It's hard to guess what he would do with the present-day bowling balls and lane conditioning. Frankly, I think of Earl Anthony as the greatest. Not only did he have power, but he had phenomenal speed control, and could adjust to any pair of lanes.
+DeedsResearcher You probably are right, although I do not know what parameters are used in the determination that Don Carter was the best of all time. He sure was the best bowler up to 1970, but I don't see how someone like Earl Anthony or even Walter Williams would not have been considered better. But , undoubtedly Mr. Carter was the first genuine superstar in bowling.
This is probably the worst Don Carter ever bowled---at least on television. I don't think Carter ever bowled much over 700 on TV, but he was SO steady over the long marathon PBA All Star tournaments that he won, what was it, at least four of them, with something like a 212-214 average.
How is that racist? That's what happened, you know, history. Indians would sneak up on their enemy. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Are we supposed to call them "Indigent Citizens"? I'm not a snowflake so I don't know the politically correct terms.
It was a reference of admiration as Indians were known for their stealth in stalking. Only "racist" when actively searching for something to be offended over, which wasn't common back then because it really was a different time.
I always wondered why Don Carter peaked out so early in the early 60’s!! He was NEVER a factor on the weekly ABC PBA telecasts!! He never adapted to the new format or conditions.. very overrated bowler.. if I’m not mistaken I think he won only 6-7 PBA tourneys up to 1966. He was also a philanderer & not too nice to his wives!!
Read "What really happened to Don Carter", written by Bill Taylor. After that to confirm Bill's conclusions, watch the old ABC reruns from the 100 game Allstars tournaments. Taylor nailed his flaws, which you can see when Carter continually looks down at his slide foot in this show.. RIP Bill and Don.
Whatever. He bowled 13 perfect games. I'm sure you can do better. And what in the world does his personal life have to do with anything? You find faults in people as if there were a reward for it. Bottom line is, you're probably on a bowling team as the team's handicap. If you bowl 98 it's a good day for you. And you generally have to sit by yourself at games because your team is ashamed of you.
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I just realized my dad’s style was almost identical to Don Carter’s. Dad was a damn good bowler too. Several 300’s but his biggest accomplishment was 1112 4 game series. Miss you dad.
It was a different time. The audience, bowlers and announcers all had class.
it used to be, well, elegant. and relaxing to watch.
YES! Everyone dressed to kill and Buck really knows the game. I watch the old timers all the time and i had my best year bowling this year at 61 yrs old.
I met Don in 1960 when I attended his instructors school. Nice man, friendly, and a true gentleman
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Amazingly I bowled with Don Carter and his wife Paula, on a league in Miami Florida at his 24 hour lanes, Don Carter’s Kendall Lanes back while he was still bowling. Great times. He was a true gentleman and sportsman.
Kendall was an awesome center...
Yeah... no.
Pictures or it didn't happen.
Of all the things that didn't happen
This DEFINTELY didn't happen. Carter would probably be like 100 today, so you're probably like 70 or 80 which I very much doubt
My greatest moment in bowling was in 1964 at the Northern California Open PBA Tournament at Country Club Lanes , Watt Ave in Sacramento ,Calif. On lanes 5-6 I kept score for Don Carter
Don Carter in his prime was the best bowler I ever saw! He was extremely confident and threw a semi-roller that "dove" into the pocket. During his prime they used to call his pocket action "Carter Magic"! I always felt his change to Ebonite was a mistake.
They gave him his own line of bowling balls, which Brunswick wouldn't do.
@@20alphabet i threw a "don Carter ebonite it had a very large "E' on it , it was very hard to control gave up on it real fast
@@_1ben
What ball did you prefer? Brunswick had the fantastic Crown Jewel line. Manhattan Rubber was phenomenal. AMF had the Amflite line that seemed to carry light hits like no other.
@@20alphabet I am glad you asked , you must be a kegler? As a Jr. I ave 183 . I quit at 16. I am 65 now thinking I would tear it up I joined up and 198 now with the same ball as a Jr. Manhattan rubber, I tried a new hammer . 3 different shops to fit very frustrating went back to the proper fit Manhattan, I am amazed seeing people average over 200 today wouldn’t average a 170 BUT there are more better bowlers today, and your story?
@@_1ben
So you averaged 183 as a junior with hard rubber on wood, not many can say that. I have a grandson near your age. Been bowling most of my life, over eighty years now, but haven't bowled since this virus fiasco has taken hold of everything. I had a business, and toured when I could over a twenty year stretch, was lucky enough to bowl with gentlemen who were good for the game, and knew the game. Of course I don't know where you are but far fewer people here in California are bowling than back then. Bowling allies have closed at an alarming rate everywhere. And whereas most were open 24 hours including the coffee shop, only one I know of remains. Shift leagues, housewife leagues, nurseries in the bowling allies... all gone because of the lack of participation. Saturday morning junior and bantams with five man teams, which took up most if not all the lanes is all but defunct. What used to be a family interest, mom and dad in a league, kids also in league, has been diminished to the level of miniature golf. Regarding your trouble with finding a decent ball driller, I share your grief. The one fellow I'd gone to since the 1970s passed away last year. Only a select few know what to do with a big thumb, lol.
These videos are excellent. I much prefer this format to the later single game matches. Such a privelege to be able to watch these first-rate bowlers.
Okay, the series of comments at 23:41 about Carter's wife just floored me...🤣
I wish pba bowling was like this for a few t.v. shows, the commentiors was so close to the bowlsers and had very little space and you can here everything the commentiors say
It would be awesome 😎.
And thanks to Isabel for making these matches even more enjoyable to watch!
Amen!
If there is a man seated next to her he is always chatting it up!
Wonder what her last name was.
Watching this brings home to me how much manners actually matter.
Freedom always brings responsibility and it seems that many times today the ratio is off.
Fun to watch.
Don Carter was my bowling hero back in the day. Being a lefty, I became a big fan of the late, great, Earl Anthony. I always thought of Earl as the left-handed Don Carter. Sure seemed 'odd', Don using something other that the black rubber ball he always used.
Joe Buck isn't half the announcer his dad Jack was.
Joe Buck is ALL the announcer Joe Buck is. It is unfair to compare the two because they're different people in different times.
@@cats0182 Yes they are and Jack Buck was WAY better than little Joey boy....and Don Carter is to bowling what Arnold Palmer is to golf. The both made their sports popular, and they both not only were great at their sports; they were great gentlemen, too.....Talent, class and character.....you'll find very, very few athletes like that these days....goes with the times we're in....downhill !
JOE BUCK ... HE PROBABLY NEVER PLAYED ORGANIZED WIFFLE BALL.....VERY LUCKY THAT HIS FATHER JACK BUCK MADE IT EASY BEING A ANNOUNCER ..PREFERING ANYONE WHO HAS PLAYED THE SPORT TO GIVE US MORE OF THE INSIDE PLAY BY PLAY .. JOE BUCK SUXS ...
@@ITILII Jack Buck was a poet, a legend, like Vin Scully, Red Barber. Joe is made for television.
@@randydiez3938
Quit yelling.
Where have the good old days of bowling gone?
Bowling was way ahead of golf--more my game--on TV from these days. Obviously it's a lot easier and cheaper to do. Very little of 50s and 60s golf to see, and most of that just exhibition play, and highlights.
this is the first time i can remember watching Mr. Carter bowl in my 60 years. Im kind of stunned, talk about bad posture. looks painful and i have read that it caught up with him. One of a kind, and hey, it worked bigtime. must be that glove…
I worked with Don and Paula at Kendall lanes from 98/99. The best job ever! Also I bowled with Don on tue night league. RIP Don 🙏
I cracked up when I saw Billy G on the back.He was the Krzyzewski of his day.
Don Carter probably left that ball on the houseball rack after the show.
I noticed Mr Carter is using that special edition gold crown ball. I’d be willing to bet he was required by the sponsor Brunswick to use it during this show for promotional purposes. Jack and Whitey are continually plugging it throughout the show. This is the only video of him I’ve ever seen using one of these. Probably not his first choice of ball to use. Could be one of the reasons he was not at his best. He even mentions that he had some difficulty getting out of it clean on release but pulled up short of blaming Brunswick’s feature product for his performance. It was probably drilled up for him a few hours before the show. He is a real class act.
those balls hooked a lot more than the hard rubber balls of the era. they were not as good as the Columbia 300s that came along a few years later but an underrated ball nonetheless.
@@MrBhresko Soft Polyester.
@@MrBhresko
The Crown Jewels in the early to mid 1960s were better than the Columbias. The Yellow Dot was Columbias attempt to match the old Crown Jewels, and excepting quality, did a fair job.
Two classy gentlemen and two excellent bowlers.
Back when bowling was legit, and egos couldn't compensate for ability.
They were classy enough to want to fts out of isabela
came here to watch Don Carter vs Billy G., and got bonused with Joe Buck's dad...nice
Bob G is the
I remember don Carter when I was a young kid
He was like a machine on the alleys
I wonder if Don REALLY wanted to use a plastic Gold Crown. Brunswick said promote! maybe, lol....
Yes, he loved that ball, it's a Crown Jewel. But he hated the Brunswick Pro Model, which was actually designed for him, released in the mid 1950s.
I think of those 100-game monster tournaments, of which Carter win four, had continued throughout the 60's, he'd have won a few more. He was able to hold his form so consistently throughout the long haul. I wonder whether there would be quite d I much comment about this "decline". Those marathons, rather than the 3-game format for television, was his great strength.
I noticed how Don holds his ball when he first aims it's up high and just before he does the approach it comes down from the aim point to be near his body now if you watch this motion from behind if you can see the ball he's not going strike if you can't se it he will .
A different St. Louis than today's
That's for sure!
Thank you! So awesome of a gem!
love the banter betwwen Buck and Whitey. Whitey was a witty witty man lol.
Billy G actually drops the ball behind the foul line.unique.
Thank you for posting...that was great!
I don’t know the story on Isabelle but I would like to know how she is doing today.
She's in her 80s, if still alive.
Are you into the gout, varicose veins and liquid lunches ?
@@joeambrose3260 😆lol
@@joeambrose3260 maybe.......
She’s doing great!! She’s my Aunt Isabelle & still gorgeous!!!
Did anyone ever figure out the story behind Isabel?
I understand she's a model, paid to be there.
@@dougwood8549 Makes sense.
@@FlyingCrow that's funny. But that's how they did things back then I guess.
Isabelle bringing the Natalie Wood look.
That's nasty, but true, and I love it!
@@brucer9572 WTF Is nasty about Natalie ?
What year is this game?
Correct.
I dont think this guy would even make my Thurs. Night League!
Keep up the wisecracks. You'll be bowling with broken fingers. 😠
thanks
The football player was pretty glib, given that those kind of interviews are usually godawful.
Commentators:
Jack Buck & Whitey Harris.
Isabell has legs!
Did they have a dress code for the audience?
Yes. I used to enforce it.
Isabelle must've been a bowling groupie.
She was a model, paid to be there.
If that’s the case, I wish I was a pro bowler back then!
@@kraigkosier9026
A top shelf pro bowler back then made more money than nearly any other professional athlete.
Times have changed when kids today in jr. leagues would go home upset at those scores and series.
The game has been ruined.
Oh,Im sure Don was pretty upset at his scores.
Them kids would need a backhand across the grill.
Don used Shuffle Board style ..
Not good for high revs with speed
Don Carter is considered the greatest bowler of all time, and projected an honest self effacing humility, accepting complete blame for his miserable series, but watching him on this match it might be easy to see why his great success did not last through the mid sixties. Frankly, he threw a dead ball even by the standards of that era, and his accuracy was off, but he surely was one of the greatest ever- just did not see it this afternoon.
+multicaruana The name of the game for Don Carter was "control". Accuracy for him was achieved through great timing. His hook was minimal, but as long as his timing was strong he could beat anyone else. It's hard to guess what he would do with the present-day bowling balls and lane conditioning.
Frankly, I think of Earl Anthony as the greatest. Not only did he have power, but he had phenomenal speed control, and could adjust to any pair of lanes.
+DeedsResearcher You probably are right, although I do not know what parameters are used in the determination that Don Carter was the best of all time. He sure was the best bowler up to 1970, but I don't see how someone like Earl Anthony or even Walter Williams would not have been considered better. But , undoubtedly Mr. Carter was the first genuine superstar in bowling.
Agreed!
+multicaruana I remember Don bowling an 809 series on television.
+phredl Wow! Is that recorded?
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This is probably the worst Don Carter ever bowled---at least on television. I don't think Carter ever bowled much over 700 on TV, but he was SO steady over the long marathon PBA All Star tournaments that he won, what was it, at least four of them, with something like a 212-214 average.
Back when those numbers meant something.
That looks like a tasty brunette on the left of the screen. Taaaasty!
"Like an Indian." lol around 15:24. A dated and slightly racist ref. It was a diff time!
How is that racist? That's what happened, you know, history. Indians would sneak up on their enemy. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Are we supposed to call them "Indigent Citizens"? I'm not a snowflake so I don't know the politically correct terms.
It was a reference of admiration as Indians were known for their stealth in stalking. Only "racist" when actively searching for something to be offended over, which wasn't common back then because it really was a different time.
@@onemoremisfit exactly.
@audiosnowflake
I always wondered why Don Carter peaked out so early in the early 60’s!! He was NEVER a factor on the weekly ABC PBA telecasts!! He never adapted to the new format or conditions.. very overrated bowler.. if I’m not mistaken I think he won only 6-7 PBA tourneys up to 1966. He was also a philanderer & not too nice to his wives!!
Read "What really happened to Don Carter", written by Bill Taylor. After that to confirm Bill's conclusions, watch the old ABC reruns from the 100 game Allstars tournaments. Taylor nailed his flaws, which you can see when Carter continually looks down at his slide foot in this show.. RIP Bill and Don.
@@frederickmattson1968 He won 4 BPAA All Stars and finished in the top 5 a toral of nine times. I'll take those "flaws".
Whatever. He bowled 13 perfect games. I'm sure you can do better. And what in the world does his personal life have to do with anything? You find faults in people as if there were a reward for it. Bottom line is, you're probably on a bowling team as the team's handicap. If you bowl 98 it's a good day for you. And you generally have to sit by yourself at games because your team is ashamed of you.
@mikey
Shove a 10-pin.
These guys are terrible bowlers. I wonder what their regular jobs were.
Shut your trap, son.
Or I'll shut it for you.
Oh, yes! Vintage bowling at its finest! 🇺🇸🦅🎳