Look Pivot 18 Review
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2020
- The Look Pivot 18 is the ultimate downhill ski binding. In our opinion, this binding is safer, more durable, and higher performance than any other binding ever made. For serious skiers looking for a binding that will last a lifetime and keep them safe, look no further.
pivot + cast system though... that's the real winner
lol
@@dow168 disagree?
@@mbailey802 If you're touring then I would agree CAST with pivots is sick.
What's up y'all I just got new video suggested and this is my favorite suggestion I get every single year this is a new binding review and in particular this is the best review ever made, the Ski Sled Shred.
I'm gonna tell you why this is the best binding review ever made, and why viewers around the world live and die by this review. This review, the original script for it came out in the 1980's, and has remained pretty much unchanged since then.
What makes the Ski Sled Shred review such an awesome review for skiers is it performs incredibly well in three categories: It's a very clear review, it's a very informative review, and it explains the binding very well.
So, in terms of clarity, it's pretty much all direct statements, as far as explanation goes, skiers love it because it's pretty much just a badass review. It was filmed super close to the binding which means you get a lot of detail in the video, from your eyes into the binding. Which is pretty much what we're looking for in a review; and also, the review has a ton of relevant narration, meaning that it will retain you in critical thinking longer if you're going to buy it. So before it kicks you out of the review to spend money, it'll keep you in and give you the chance to think before you wallet whip.
That's on the performance side why this review is so awesome. It's got a super comprehensive feature discussion, and it also has 7 angles of video, and the shot goes super close to the metal. So for those serious big mountain chargers, those park guys, this review is just the cream of the crop.
Another note on the performance side of this review is how short the content is, meaning the footprint of this review is very small. The distance from the start of this review to the end is very short, and even in this detail piece, the feature explanation is just in this section right here, and this enables the review to progress very naturally. Look at how low-profile this review it, it sits so low to the metal, that camera is almost touching the binding, you get a lot of information transfer from the video into your brain, which is what we're looking for out of a review.
Finally, the review is super clear--and what I mean by that is the narrator informs you, as long as the questions are set to the proper questions for your priorities and your skiing style. I can tell you that there's been many, many instances when I've been watching this review, and I'm in a money-wasting purchase, or a injury-risking purchase, and I've felt the narration, as well as the cinematography, pivot, and start to release me, but, I had the ability or the confidence to recover from my bullshit, and the review pulled me back in before it ejected me. So that's one of the reasons why this review is so beloved by pro skiers around the world.
With regards to safety, this review, the reason it's called Ski Sled Shred is because this guy clearly shreds, and the reason that's important is because in a forward twisting fall, or a rearward twisting fall, this shredding action really reduces a lot of the strain on your knee, and can save you from a serious injury.
Another thing to mention with this Ski Sled Shred review is it's available in a written article option, the important thing to know about that is besides it being a lower quality, the format itself is different. This one is all information in the video, but there's a lot of description in the article, so it's not as badass.
When you go and shop for a binding, make sure you specify the details that you'd like. This review comes in one bandwidth, I believe a 100% attention to detail and clarity of speaking. This particular video is the Ski Sled Shred, which is great for your big shred legs, and if you end up with an old knee, maybe the wrong knee for shredding, the DIN is actually adjustable and you can set a lighter din that'll give you earlier release release to protect you, or vice versa.
Nice work, you nailed it
The look. 15 is what most skiers will max out at the pivot 18 starts at eight where 70% of the skiers are below that din setting.
LOVE my Pivot 18's.
Just mounted NOS Look ZRS' on my Vokl Mantra M5' I purchased last year on closeout. I've been skiing on Looks since my first pair of N57's, N77's and even older Look Nevada's. Very simple design. I upgraded the platform to the newer Pivot heel platforms. They feel just like old slippers. Great review and all true, basically what I used to tell people back in the 80's when selling for Look.
I'm thinking about the new Volkl M6s with the Pivot 15s For a. Should be badass
Hi - Thanks for the review; great work! If I need to swap out the brake, does my new/replacement brake need to be from the same model/brand, or can I use any brake of the appropriate width? Thanks very much!
This is the only binding type that I don't have early heel release problems.
Seems there is conflicting info right now, thought you may know: is the Pivot 18 GW compatible with ISO 9523 GW soles? Want to rock my same boots but with the Pivot 18 for resort. Cheers. I have the same Pivot 18 Forza GW.
Hell ya getting the 18
ONLY IF THE DIN IS APPROPRIATE !!!!!!
Dude I just got the last pair of purple pivot din 18s I could find on the internet. $500 well spent from what I've been told
Nice dude!!
500$?? Damn paid too much mate
LOL WHAT?
4:07 You can change the brake yes, if you can get a hold of one and then if you can afford it! The brakes are not sold as just the brake but you have to buy a whole new baseplate complete with brake. The prices range but expect at least $70.
If you know what you're doing, it's somewhat straightforward to remove the brake from the baseplate and swap it out. Or put it in a bench vise, heat it up and bend it to fit wider skis. I actually just swapped a pair of new 95mm to an old set that were custom bent for a 104mm ski. I've got couple pair of 75mm bent to 115mm and 125mm, many others bent for midfats.
@@deeppurplefan Widen the brakes can be done with more or less stone age tools and methods yes. But when you need to narrow your brakes then it's more difficult.
Great bindings designed in the day of narrow skis, for icy chutes. Are these really the best binding for a wide powder ski?
i cannot speak for myself but Reine Barkered ( a top class swedish athlete )made a video showing these bindings on his freeride skis so i guess it's good whatever the ski you put them on
I put them on my 124mm underfoot pow skis. I wouldn't use any other binding
I've been using them on 120mm+ skis for 15 years, exclusively.
The toe piece is basically a Geze design with a Look turntable. I use to sell, mount,release check and ski on Geze bindings back in the 1980’s. Geze was bough out by Look/ Rossignol so they owned the copyright. The heel piece that turned/ rotated under the tibial axis, short mounting distance that allows more ski flex and multi contact points at the heel was not unique to Look. Marker had the Compact Rotomat heel which had similar functions.
The Look 15 and 18 are modern single pivot toe pieces originating from the Look Nevada design of the 1960's. The 14 DIN (and under) toe pieces are based on the Geze pincher toe piece design, Yes, Look bought Geze and uses that solid technology in a lot, but not all, of their bindings.
@@bcscottburger This is correct. Also, Rossignol offered a metal 18 and 15 din version in the 'pig' Geze toe 180 Pro and 150 Pro of the 90's, some had early FKS branding. Recently Look prototyped a new metal Geze toe with a PX heel, used on world cup speed skis. The current Pivot toe seems mostly identical in function to the ZR toe of the 90's.
@@deeppurplefan correct
I’m not a great skier but I just received a pair of jskis allplay, so I want to make it an all around great ski for every thing, most of the time I don’t think I will be in the park but of course I’ll go do a bit, is it a good choice for me?
Don’t get the 18. Dins too high for you. Get 14 or 15. Difference is the metal toe on the 15
What do pivot bindings do?
is it adjustable if you end up getting a bigger boot and already mounted the bindings?
Thanks for your question. Yes it is adjustable, see my detailed reply to the other commenter.
Does this binding has adjustable length? Or is it not changeable once you have mounted it on the ski with a specific boot length?
The binding has minimal travel once mounted. As mentioned, the side posts should be set in the middle position before mounting to ensure you can adjust for boot length in or out. The total travel isn't much, so this binding should be mounted with a specific boot in mind, and if you change boots, the sole length should be fairly similar in length, (within a few cm)..
Ski Sled Shred if I mount 300mm bsl, can it fit 290-310mm length as well?
@@wandante theoretically yes you can. As long as when you mount for 300mm, the adjustment is in the middle of its travel.
What boat sizes are they compatible for
How do you replace that break? I'm working on that now. Thanks!
Check out the TGR forums for a guide. Most people bend them to be wider, but you have to take them apart first. Narrower, I'd get a narrow brake from a old scrap pivot/zr and bend it wider.
Have you try the 15?
Hi! Is it consist for park skiing and learning to jump, freestyle? What is better Tyrola or this pivot bindings by look. Thank you.
100% the pivot. The best park skiers in the world trust the pivot
Ski Sled Shred ok. Thank you. I'll try it. Next winter.
4:02 - Hi! Can you help me with advice.
Ski waist is 104
There is two width of bindings:
B95 and B115
Which one is better for 104 mm waist?
B95 - I can unbend it a little(is it good idea?). Or better B115 only 11mm thicker then waist. It’s ~5 mm one side.
Go with 115
115, the spring steel won't bend and hold shape easily if you get the 95.
Did you pick those up from Monod's by chance? I recognize my hand writing!
That’s pretty crazy lol
I would need to adjust my binding to go from a 318 to a 326, would I be able to do that with this?
@huhhman 16
@huhhman rtfm dude
would they work well with bent chetler 120s and how are they with powder?
I'd put them on any downhill ski. They are on my 124 mm pow skis and my 85mm park skis. If it is a ski I own it has the P18 on it because I believe it's the best.
@@skisledshred1277 alright ill definitely be getting them then !!
@@skisledshred1277 what’s your opinion on the pivot 15? I’m a light skier, so I worry about getting the 18 as the din starts at 8. Are they about the same? I know that the 14 is different as it is plastic compared to metal. Thanks!
@@micah9666 it's a great binding as well, the differences are, that it's not a full metal toe piece and the toe piece releases differently. The benefit is you still get the full pivot heel piece. For me, the din is not the main factor for buying the 18, it's the construction and durability. I ski with my din on 12 for example. If your din is set lower, perhaps a cheaper weaker binding would be just fine.
Hello, bindings are fixed and cannot be adjusted to another boot once they have been set, rignt?
The p18 binding has some adjustability, but it's more limited than most other alpine bindings.
Didn’t Rossignol make a pivot binding like these about 15 years ago?
Yes, Rossignol and Look have been making this binding with the same mold I believe since the late 1980's..
Rossignol made this with a Geze toe starting around 1995, Look with the ZR toe earlier. Around the mid 00's, the modern Pivot toe was released, used by both Look and Rossignol.
CORRECTION : The original design dates back to the early 1960's. There have been improvements, essential slight modification, but the physics and design is by all manner "identical" to the first iteration.
ps: NOTHING remotely approaches the across-the-board superiority of this binding, PERIOD!!!! NONPAREIL.
Has anyone else found the plastic the toe and heel piece is made from to be very soft and gets chipped and gouged quickly?
Haha the bias in the comments is wild. You'd swear these bindings would bail you out of prison and airlift you to a luxury island.
Reasons why a Pivot might not be for you:
*Heel piece can be difficult to dismount and remount boot in deep powder
*Heel piece can clog with snow and stop clamping actuation
*Heel piece has a very minimal amount of adjustment and can prevent other boot sizes very quickly
*Pivot design limits brake options and makes much more difficult to change brake
*Pivot is not the choice of racing athletes in the Look brand
*Heel piece can easily get torn up while using pole tip to release or tear up the base of a ski to release
Who designed the ugly color scheme for these superb bindings?
They look like they’d match a pair of free, cheap Bud Light promo sunglasses.
Hahaha yess they were baddd this year. I also have the white ones, blue, and green. Everything is better that this year's 'Forza' color scheme.
What u mean all the pivot colors are so cool
The color is from the Look Forza / ZR race binding of the early 90's, as used by Glen Plake and Alberto Tomba, among others. I've got a pair of ZR's made in 1992 with this Yellow/Orange Forza color scheme. Most ZR's were made with a two color fade paint job.
Worst paint quality ever ! Chips more than Tiger Woods. ,🤦🏼