I’m an ex con and since I found Michael franzese and started listening and taking note of his words and his wisdom I am back on the right path I owe him a lot and want to thank him personally
This... is one really good aspect of all this. The fact that once in a while, within the multitude of comments from drooling wannabe fans, someone who has been caught up in the sh... is able to find their way out just from seeing others who've managed to do it. The toughest part of jumping into sh... is climbing back out. ... and your mouth is open the entire time too...
My daughter was in children’s hospital in Dallas tx and the Angels came in and seen the kids and brought toys. It was amazing and I shook their hands and man the kids need that. I would thank them guys again.
The Hells Angels and several other Motorcycle Clubs are involved in Toys for Tots and Coats for kids every year. They raise millions of dollars and tons of toys and coats.
I had a friend back in the late 70's early 80's. He was a 1%er & one of the most stand up, principled men I've ever known. I'm grateful I knew him. Nothing but respect.
Whether you like George Christie or not, he is a personable guy, and always gives a great interview. This is one of the few times I remember a guest asking so many questions to the interviewer, which made it a genuine conversation, in which both guys displayed genuine interest in the other's experiences. Dynamite show.
I was a teenager when he was the president of the Ventura chapter, I lived in the neighborhood and they were always very nice to me and the other kids that were in the neighborhood. You felt safe in that neighborhood that's for sure.
@@kurtsaxton823I played drums at a bbq band on fix street as I lived on Ramona and bell on the Ave. They kept asking us to replay born to be wild over and over again . We said ok
These cross-lives interviews are probably the best. Finding out how much RESPECT is actually throughout all the groups is amazing. We've been told to be civil,.yet paying taxes is bs......
This happened in the 60's. I was young and driving an old beater late one night and my car died but had enough momentum to coast into a gas station. I noticed a guy on a motorcycled at the pump in front of me...but I did not take notice of what he was wearing. Back then they had gas station attendants who would service your car on the spot....and my car was smoking indicating it needed attention. The station attendant was in the station (I could see him) but did NOT come out. I figured he was busy with something and would come out as soon as he was through and I had no choice but to wait since my car would not start. After a while, I noticed that the jacket on the man on the motorcycles said "Hell's Angels." Then I realized that was why the attendant did not come out. The Hell's Angels guy got off his bike and came back to my car and tapped on my window. I rolled it down a crack. He said, "I see your having trouble with your car." I said "Yes, it just died." He told me to wait until it cooled down and he would get it started. I did what he said. He pushed my car to the side and waited until the car cooled down. Then he filled the radiator, suggested that I get anti-freeze for it, and told me to try to start it. The car turned over and began to chug again. I thanked him profusely and offered to pay him. He smiled and refused the money and got me on my way. I know the Hell's Angels are tough guys...but they have their moments and I was glad when one of them was around!
Hello angels are people.Some good,some bad we have all kinds of "people" like that though.Hells angels just don't disown you cause you are a criminal.m
They are people just like anyone else and ya they are involved in some dirty shit but if you're not one of their known enemies you're not a threat and they're gonna show you respect
I worked for a big MC club and also a high level 'made man' in both their legal businesses. Never once did i get stiffed on pay, or treated 'less then family'. Ive worked for govt too....biggest crooks around
This is an amazing conversation. To watch a former Mafia Boss and Head of the Hells Angels sit down and have a conversation of their days in their organizations is just priceless.
Great interview. Brings back memories of when Mr. Christie was released from TI. The officers were giving him a hard time bringing his personal belongings out and I was given a call and asked some questions about what he was capable of. He is a class act and although we never met face to face, I was happy to help out in a small way smoothing things out.
It's too bad that you and Sonny Barger weren't the best of friends, I met Sonny outside of Fresno early '70's. I hitch hiked to California from Gary back then. He and some other Angels made me feel at home partying with them.
As a truck driver I've run across almost every MC I can think of at one time or another over the road. Never had a problem with any of them. Can't say the same thing about highway patrol.
I had two MC members in trade school the same I was in there for diesel technician classes. Both were some of the most chillest guys I ever met, and the older bald guy especially was all about honor and respect
It's still mental to me that an ex mafia boss has a you tube channel but I'll be buggered if it's not one of the most interesting channels on here. Michael, you're a legend for the right reasons 😊 (sorry NOT boss, apparently this is very important. Can't say it affects my life but ppl are really cranky about it)
He was a captain, not a boss. Ok, street boss. But in the end he was a captain. His dad was an underboss. Wasn't the boss, he was the underboss. Sorry for being word picky but it is true.
Boss?..Nah, he wasn't. His adoptive father (Sonny) is the real gangster & he gave Michael everything, including gas scam (which Sonny & Russian mob originally started). Michael just gets the credit bc he's only one who ratted & who told media about the scam
Yeah- "honor and respect" to these guys is something completely different from the honor and respect a hard working family man has and deserves. Humility is not something they are familiar with.
This was hands down one of the most fascinating and interesting sit-downs I've ever watched on RUclips and I can not wait to watch the second part! Thanks Michael.
I also served time in Terminal Island in the south yard F unit from 2007-2013. I swear just hearing this conversation with Michael and George just brings me back, I met so many big players in the feds that taught me so much knowledge, I just wish I could of met these guys!!!
@@alexaraujo8688 Never been to jail before so I can’t even imagine. Getting out of basic training felt like getting out jail but without context I am sure I was just being a bitch :)
@@maliant16Freedom doesn’t have a price!You did good cause prison is not designed for human beings but once you end up serving time then people tend to do their best to make their lives bit easier.You re kind of forced to interact with other people to get better food or pack of smokes shit like that
This was a great conversation and I can't wait for Part 2. It is so interesting to see the two organizations side by side! Thanks for this one Michael.
I've been familiar with Mr George for many yrs - My grandmother operated a public boarding stable for over 30 yrs - Every demographic one could imagine including Bikers - I remember a man and his wife who we all had come to love - they were at the farm 3-4 days a week for 5or 6 years - they sadly were in a fatal bike wreck , not far from the farm - I was little - but I loved Gene - We later found out he was - as we knew - in a club - a big club - At the funeral we found out he was the National President - This was in the early 1970s - These people loved my grandparents - Mamaw would not sell their horses by or let any of his buddies have them - evidently they had an agreement - Mamaw said " I did what he wanted me to do " She found a home in Lexington for those 3 horses and I have no doubt they lived well - 🌹🐴🌹
wanted him to ask if you can wear a hells angels shirt or hat if your not a member? I ordered some nice shirts but hesitant on wearing them at the local bar. Any ideas
This is nuts because seeing him after all these years is very intriguing. My high school teacher had George Christy come into our classroom and speak on multiple occasions in Ventura. Our town was hard back then lots of gangs and the hells angels cleaned up the town per se
So glad to see Part 2 coming soon! Excellent interview, Michael! I’ve seen George Christie on several shows. He’s intelligent, articulate, interesting and has led a life so similar to yours. Great work!
Two absolute gentleman. Class conversation. Lot of mutual respect. These guys are street guys at their core and it's fascinating to see the understandings they share without using words.
This is no doubt a great sit down. George seems like a genuine person & you both vibed off each other so well. You talked to each other like you are family members. Can't wait for part 2.
US Federal government is the biggest and most well funded criminal organization in the world. Look at how many unjust, illegal wars that they have engaged in.
Great conversation, you can see the mutual respect these two had for each other. Also, you can see the relief that they're both doing something else today
Mike traveled all over the world for 10+ yrs preaching, teaching, sharing his story. I was with him in Lompoc for 3 yrs. Super humble approachable guy is is exactly as he comes across on this channel. I think this was the best business decision he made so that he can be more effective and be a great husband Best channel on tube 🎉🎉🎉
True story about a Hells Angels encounter... I'm British with Italian heritage on my father side, as a consequence I really got into the old classic Italian Scooters and the smart "mod" way of dressing. Back in the 90's when I was a teenager, a group of us teens were going to a scooter rally on the South Coast of England, which involved a long ride down there on our little scooters. Now vintage scooters don't go very fast, and whilst we were in the slow lane on a motorway (3 lane highway), a bunch of 15-20 guys on sports bikes, all dressed like Power Rangers thought it would be funny to come and take the p*ss out of our little scooters. They were riding inches away from us, giving us the bird & hand-job signals and generally being intimidating. Next thing, we heard the unmistakable thrum of Harleys and turned round to see 5 patched up Hells Angels ride up from behind and then in amongst the group of sports bikes. We thought we were gonna get our heads kicked in, but it was the opposite. The Hells Angels basically got the Power Rangers to f*ck off, then rode with us (at our speed) to where we exited the motorway and gave us the thumbs up as we waved them goodbye. The HA and us scooter kids looked the complete antithisis of each other, however, I like to think it was a shared love of our respective two wheel machines and the open road that made them to do what they did. They didn't have to take the time out to watch our backs and I've had immense respect to them to this very day.
Yeah, when you're not on the receiving end of a baseball bat, or when your sister is not being trafficked by them, or your brother is not ODing on some drugs they sold him, they're easy to respect.
Oh please save us the "tough but fair"-bullshit. There are countless examples of organized crime and just violence in general surrounding these people... any douchebag can smile and greet a neighbour it doesn't change anything.
I had a Vespa 250. Reed valve converersion that sounded like a KX 250 2 stroke. I was invited to a Christmas parade toy drive with the Mongols in Oklahoma. I went to the Chapter leaders shop, and he collected Harly scooters. You never know. They were cool with me even though I was on a Vespa. Mongols motorcycle shop was 50 yards from where I worked at the time. They loved that scooter. They let me know if I had a problem with someone, let them know. I never had a problem because I knew sh*t wouldn't end well.
I am forever indebted to The Hells Angels. I don’t know how many years they helped families like mine in our community. Growing up, money was tight, but every Thanksgiving we had a huge family dinner, every Christmas we had a tree filled with presents and a big family dinner, every Halloween we had costumes, and so many other things that they did for us. They took care of our community and made sure we were protected.
To think how these guys have seriously turned their lives around for the better and even when they were the "bad guys", they were still less corrupt than today's politicians. They almost never leave their "life" Much respect to these guys!
Ventura is such a beautiful micro beach town . Lived in Oxnard too. Downtown Oxnard 9th/B st. The gated townhomes, Now I'm in Utah , California just got crazy when it came to homes. I live in the mountains but I miss the Ocean too.
First I need to explain I post on my husband Frank's RUclips acct! I don't know George, but was friends on Facebook with Sonny Barger and he did something that really touched my heart! Hubby and I don't have kids we rescue stray and abused animals and when one of our dogs crossed The Rainbow Bridge we received the kindest message from Mr. Barger and his wife! Gods speed to you both! Patricia Gambino Harrington
One time i was wating in a long ass lineup to get into a bar...i am disabled and in a wheelchair....next thing i know im getting a tap on the shoulder by a big ass biker...i look up and he goes how many are in your group...i say me and 3 friends....he goes ok come with me, saw right away he was HA....takes me to the front of the line...and pushes the bouncer to the side said go on in...i said can i buy you a drink he gave me a hand shake and said brother have a good night....coolest thing ever hahaha
George Christie JR. is my most favorite person. Love & appreciate him sharing/telling his story. He’s lived many lives. I’ve been waiting for this colab for a while now, so I couldn’t be any more excited. Thanks for having him on. ❤️🙏🏽
@@Baseballnfj Within the community of storytellers & writers, yes, he is ONE of my favorites- of which I have many. My original comment was based in context of this very podcast episode. My most favorite person is my father. In specific, my parents- just in case there was any confusion. I don’t know Mr. Christie or Mr. Franzese personally, so the knowledge I have of them comes from what they’ve allowed us to know.
My father in law was riding with the HAs in the 70s and was security that night the HAs had an incident at that concert that was legendary. They called him Skip. He himself is a legend RIP. He spoke highly of George Christie And Sonny Barger. Respect to the red and white.
What an amazing conversation about two different lifestyles, both legends of different worlds, both of these men hold a degree of respect most won’t understand! Awesome conversation!!
Great back and forth, the government is going to watch both of you for life. Over 30 years ago they told me they was going to watch me for life and they have done what they say. The code of silence has been the reason why, i think. Your show has me hooked
How do you know they’re being honest? Are you a mind reader? They keep saying they were framed. That they were innocent. All criminals say that. They even complain that the government doesn’t play fair. These 2 played fair in their criminal lives?
@@karagi101 Have you heard Michael's other podcasts? He says that Rudy Guiliiani caught him fair and square. James Comey of the FBI has now been exposed as circumventing due process.
Remember he came to the school i graduated from,on many occasions. He was at my graduation and he was randomly pictured in one of my graduation photos when i was walking off of the stage. At the time, I didn't know him,or cared to know him, he was just a random guy at the time (in my eyes). Graduated from NHS. We have a movie/documentary that made it to IMDb called "Love Goes Public". About 2 years after i graduated high school (i graduated in 2014), i realized how big he was and who he were. To this day i can't believe he came to the school i graduated from on (many) occasions. NHS was like a performing arts schools disguised as a public school. We had campus for life, we went on trips for free, every Friday, we got tickets to Auburn games for free. At the time,our principal son played for Auburn university with Cam Newton,then they went to the NFL. Our principal would always get her son to bring the Auburn stars to our school and set up basketball games with them. We also played grade vs grade basketball,6th vs 7th grader, 8th vs 9th you get the point.We had people that was currently during life in prison come up to the school and talk with us, (supervised of course). Looking back, I realized i didn't soak up everything I could've have and how special the school is that i graduated from. Michael told the entrie school so many stories in the auditorium. He had the entire school locked into his grasp.Idk if it was because the things he did, and witnessed but the teachers and students was in awe. To this day, i still don't know how my school got him to come speak and hang around with us, even came to our graduation in 2014. One day (a few years after highschool), i seen a video of him and my mouth dropped,i was thinking to myself (THAT'S THE GUY!!!!!)This video had over a million views i think. It was then, when i realized who he was, how big he was and couldn't believe he came to our school on many occasions and he came to our graduation in 2014. I regret not knowing who he was at the time and the "Mafia" was irrelevant to me, but I was slightly familiar with it. I know he's not the biggest known celebrity in the world, but it was an honor to meet him. He done terrible things he's not proud of , but he's a changed man and i wish i can meet him through as an adult eyes.So many questions I could've asked. Who he is on video is exactly the same man that came to our school about 10 years ago. He's a good guy, i wish i knew how my school pulled this off, he's a great pubic speaker and he's good with children and teenagers .I hope God keep on blessing this man .
I love when George says in some interviews,” The hell’s angels is not a criminal organization, it’s an organization with criminals in it… ha ha ha … this is not a coffee cup it’s a cup that holds coffee.. ha ha ha
Wow, I was completely locked in the entire 40 minutes...This is an absolutely incredible conversation to sit and watch. Thank you gentlemen for putting this together!
Been wanting the book Mafia Democracy and noticed it is sold out....Hope we can get it back in stock one day. Loved the Sitdown and I always find Michaels videos top notch. George Christie is very interesting to listen too.
I like this quote but it's not as black and white as you put it. In a world where those corporations aren't being used to the benefit of the government and society, I'd say yeah that shows hypocrisy. However, it's not as simple as that since the government is collecting from corporations that it can interact with more so than the mafia for instance in the shadows. I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this but here's my opinion of the nuance between a corporation and a criminal organization: The oil/gas corporations who provide a service to the nation by providing a valued commodity are benefitting the nation economically in areas that outweigh any tax break they might receive. Now an example from organized crime not paying taxes: they earn money through extortion, skimming profits from legitimate businesses, and worse. I'm not even including the more dramatic methods of profits such as drugs/prostitution. Can you not see the difference between the value that both contribute to society as a whole and why a tax break and tax evasion from illicit activities are not even in the same neighborhood of eachother in terms of relevance.
I’d like to know both Michael’s and Nobodyimportant’s opinion on this. From what I understand the reason of that is because supposedly the government awards corporations for providing jobs and other things for communities or society as a whole across the United States.
@@Quickshotted you actually believe that bullshit? I bet you believe 9-11 was done by a bunch of men in caves and Iraq had WMDs, well, other than the ones the US gave Iraq in the 80s to use on the Iranians. As George Carlin would say, “it’s one big club and you ain’t in it.”
@@Quickshottedyou are correct. A tax break is when the company is going to create hundreds plus jobs. For example a few years ago, Amazon was going to open a factory in New York, creating 25,000 jobs. So the state and city offered them tax breaks as an incentive to come to New York. That’s how every state , government works. All the way down to the local city council. It’s not a tax break for ever. It’s typically for a couple years. This helps the company to build the factory and hire employees, before they have to pay a large tax. Corporations and large companies pay lots of tax. The left are delusional when they claim, Elon, or Jef, doesn’t pay taxes. Elon, paid 5 billion in taxes. They have loopholes that help with not paying 💯 of their tax. That’s the same benefits all businesses have. Id tomorrow you open a donut shop. You get to right items off your taxes, that your neighbor that works a job doesn’t. If that wasn’t the case no one could afford to start a business. Amazon, didn’t open the factory, because AOC, made people protest. They went to another state and New York citizens didn’t get the 25,000 jobs. Michael, was actually taking money meant for tax purposes and using it for their group. It would be similar if you didn’t pay state taxes. His businesses brought in money to launder, and found away to profit of the tax meant for the state. That’s if I understood what he was describing in the video. People that cry about corporations or wealthy people getting tax breaks has no clue about economics, or owning a business. Without companies like Amazon, Tesla, google, Apple, etc. hundreds of millions of people would be unemployed.
You know, the internet has brought alot of negativity into this world I think, but this conversation is a gem of knowledge. It's mindblowing that now, you can get theses types of conversation between two genuine "organise crime" guys. It gives you alot facets you would not have ben given before the internet.
I think it's valuable when people like Michael point out the flaws with the justice system, and how there are people who feel the need to break the law in order to uphold the law, they feel the need to weaponize the system to go after people they don't like. It's quite revealing when even former members of the mafia can recognize the mafia-like enterprise that plagues our country today. But for us Christian men it should come as no surprise, you can't change human nature, but what you can do is accept responsibility over your own life, and model yourself after somebody who is free of these flaws.
So you’ve got one gentleman who was the head of one of the biggest MCs known to man, and another who was a high ranking member of a huge family in the Italian mob…this is excellent.
I love how these two me can have a talk like men and share a message of life that you can overcome your past and be a example that God has got a plan for everyone 🙏
@@DrBaronMunchausen except there are some 300+ million Americans ALL wanting something different from government! This WILL by definition create big government!
Used to chat with George quite a bit and see him at clubs, etc. He has always been a great and respectful person to be around. Great to see him doing well. Hope to run into him again someday.
I’m an ex con and since I found Michael franzese and started listening and taking note of his words and his wisdom I am back on the right path I owe him a lot and want to thank him personally
This... is one really good aspect of all this.
The fact that once in a while, within the multitude of comments from drooling wannabe fans,
someone who has been caught up in the sh... is able to find their way out just from seeing others who've managed to do it.
The toughest part of jumping into sh... is climbing back out.
... and your mouth is open the entire time too...
Keep up the good work not easy to do what you are doing
Stay on the righteous path my friend!!
Listen to the end result!!
Wisdom? The man is a moron.
Which videos do you recommend?
My daughter was in children’s hospital in Dallas tx and the Angels came in and seen the kids and brought toys. It was amazing and I shook their hands and man the kids need that. I would thank them guys again.
The Hells Angels and several other Motorcycle Clubs are involved in Toys for Tots and Coats for kids every year. They raise millions of dollars and tons of toys and coats.
most motorcycle gangs run meth for the chinese. They also help distribute fentanyl, which has killed 5 people in my neighborhood of about 100.
I bet local politicians have just as much of a hand in that too.
At the end of the day they are still criminals.
@@Democratsuck1994 so are tons of politicians and business owners that we respect
Thanks for sharing Michael. George is a good dude. It’s an honor to know him.
I had a friend back in the late 70's early 80's. He was a 1%er & one of the most stand up, principled men I've ever known. I'm grateful I knew him. Nothing but respect.
Whether you like George Christie or not, he is a personable guy, and always gives a great interview. This is one of the few times I remember a guest asking so many questions to the interviewer, which made it a genuine conversation, in which both guys displayed genuine interest in the other's experiences. Dynamite show.
I was a teenager when he was the president of the Ventura chapter, I lived in the neighborhood and they were always very nice to me and the other kids that were in the neighborhood. You felt safe in that neighborhood that's for sure.
@@kurtsaxton823I played drums at a bbq band on fix street as I lived on Ramona and bell on the Ave. They kept asking us to replay born to be wild over and over again . We said ok
These cross-lives interviews are probably the best. Finding out how much RESPECT is actually throughout all the groups is amazing. We've been told to be civil,.yet paying taxes is bs......
This happened in the 60's. I was young and driving an old beater late one night and my car died but had enough momentum to coast into a gas station. I noticed a guy on a motorcycled at the pump in front of me...but I did not take notice of what he was wearing. Back then they had gas station attendants who would service your car on the spot....and my car was smoking indicating it needed attention. The station attendant was in the station (I could see him) but did NOT come out. I figured he was busy with something and would come out as soon as he was through and I had no choice but to wait since my car would not start.
After a while, I noticed that the jacket on the man on the motorcycles said "Hell's Angels." Then I realized that was why the attendant did not come out.
The Hell's Angels guy got off his bike and came back to my car and tapped on my window. I rolled it down a crack. He said, "I see your having trouble with your car."
I said "Yes, it just died."
He told me to wait until it cooled down and he would get it started. I did what he said. He pushed my car to the side and waited until the car cooled down. Then he filled the radiator, suggested that I get anti-freeze for it, and told me to try to start it. The car turned over and began to chug again. I thanked him profusely and offered to pay him. He smiled and refused the money and got me on my way.
I know the Hell's Angels are tough guys...but they have their moments and I was glad when one of them was around!
Humanity at its finest...no matter What you look like❤
Hello angels are people.Some good,some bad we have all kinds of "people" like that though.Hells angels just don't disown you cause you are a criminal.m
They are people just like anyone else and ya they are involved in some dirty shit but if you're not one of their known enemies you're not a threat and they're gonna show you respect
I've found them kind and reasonable to deal with, just don't screw around and do dumb stuff and you won't have an issue.
I worked for a big MC club and also a high level 'made man' in both their legal businesses.
Never once did i get stiffed on pay, or treated 'less then family'. Ive worked for govt too....biggest crooks around
I cant believe im watching the mafia and hells angels talk about modern politics this is a crazy time to live in.
And I honestly trust their opinions on things in regards to it lol.
They've been through and dealt with all the same shit
I guess you are a kid?
Same.
Ya especially considering there is a full blown Hells Angels vs Rizzuto (mafia) war going for the control of Quebec
Really......feds are the LARGEST ORGANIZED CRIME outfit in the world.....who better than them😂😂
This was one of the most interesting chats I’ve ever heard. Absolutely phenomenal.
Absolutely! I could listen to this for a week straight and not get bored. I love your channel. ❤
This is an amazing conversation. To watch a former Mafia Boss and Head of the Hells Angels sit down and have a conversation of their days in their organizations is just priceless.
Micheal wasn’t a boss. Member, yes.
@@honestsupplementsreviews2984He still had power and a lot guys under his command so 🤷🏻♂️
Oh shut up he was a capo of his own crew of guys
@@alexmcarthur5297 Wow, take it easy man. Anyone can make a mistake :-)
Jeez biting someone's head off so quick. I feel sorry for your family. You must be tough to live around@@alexmcarthur5297
Great interview. Brings back memories of when Mr. Christie was released from TI. The officers were giving him a hard time bringing his personal belongings out and I was given a call and asked some questions about what he was capable of. He is a class act and although we never met face to face, I was happy to help out in a small way smoothing things out.
Franzese is the man. Truth be told, right here. 👍
George is 100% stand up and has the greatest stories. Can't wait for part 2!
What a moron
I agree, George tells great stories. Can you imagine what he knows, we don't.
It's too bad that you and Sonny Barger weren't the best of friends, I met Sonny outside of Fresno early '70's. I hitch hiked to California from Gary back then. He and some other Angels made me feel at home partying with them.
As a truck driver I've run across almost every MC I can think of at one time or another over the road. Never had a problem with any of them. Can't say the same thing about highway patrol.
Got that right. Local police never hassle me when im in my old musclecar. CHP...
Havent been on the fwy in years.
MC?
@@gabrielramos3385Motorcycle Club
@@gabrielramos3385 Motorcycle club
I had two MC members in trade school the same I was in there for diesel technician classes. Both were some of the most chillest guys I ever met, and the older bald guy especially was all about honor and respect
Great guest! George Christie is a legend. Its nice to see he's doing so well. Much respect.
It's still mental to me that an ex mafia boss has a you tube channel but I'll be buggered if it's not one of the most interesting channels on here. Michael, you're a legend for the right reasons 😊 (sorry NOT boss, apparently this is very important. Can't say it affects my life but ppl are really cranky about it)
He was a captain, not a boss. Ok, street boss. But in the end he was a captain. His dad was an underboss. Wasn't the boss, he was the underboss. Sorry for being word picky but it is true.
He was a captain not even close to being a boss or underboss
Boss?..Nah, he wasn't. His adoptive father (Sonny) is the real gangster & he gave Michael everything, including gas scam (which Sonny & Russian mob originally started). Michael just gets the credit bc he's only one who ratted & who told media about the scam
God bless freedom of speech. Furthermore, you hear more interesting and authentic things on this channel than on any political channel.
Sammy the bull gravano also have a youtube channel
I appreciate you having these conversations publicly. It brings perspective to the world and it is much needed.
Always a pleasure, Michael!
This is a amazing conversation between two friends. It’s refreshing to watch a honest conversation. Thanks for allowing us into your lives. 👏🇨🇦
A truly respectful conversation between two well spoken gentlemen who come from a day where things like honor and respect mattered. A+ interview!
"honor and respect"???? Well thats setting the bar pretty low for sure.
Still matters to me. No respect, 1 response. 1%
Yeah- "honor and respect" to these guys is something completely different from the honor and respect a hard working family man has and deserves. Humility is not something they are familiar with.
“Honor and respect” is a LCN thing, not amongst MC clubs.
A day when honor respect and exploiting the most vulnerable mattered and enriched them
I could listen to all this man’s interviews and stories. Many blessings and Gods provision over you Mr. Franzese
Mr. Christie is a legend indeed! thank you Michael for bringing him on. He’s a great storyteller!
...Never heard of him. A legend?? Do you know what a legend is? Hercules is a legend, not this clown.
This was hands down one of the most fascinating and interesting sit-downs I've ever watched on RUclips and I can not wait to watch the second part! Thanks Michael.
Don't ask him about his daughter. He believes in that weirdo gender crap 🙄
I could listen to these two talk all day. They’re so interesting and I bet they have so many stories!
I also served time in Terminal Island in the south yard F unit from 2007-2013. I swear just hearing this conversation with Michael and George just brings me back, I met so many big players in the feds that taught me so much knowledge, I just wish I could of met these guys!!!
Glad you're out
Was getting released the best day of your life?
@@maliant16 Yes it felt so good after serving 8 years, but I still had 6 months in the halfway house.
@@alexaraujo8688 Never been to jail before so I can’t even imagine.
Getting out of basic training felt like getting out jail but without context I am sure I was just being a bitch :)
@@maliant16Freedom doesn’t have a price!You did good cause prison is not designed for human beings but once you end up serving time then people tend to do their best to make their lives bit easier.You re kind of forced to interact with other people to get better food or pack of smokes shit like that
This was a great conversation and I can't wait for Part 2. It is so interesting to see the two organizations side by side! Thanks for this one Michael.
Maybe they can reach out to montreal and stop the violence ?
I've been familiar with Mr George for many yrs - My grandmother operated a public boarding stable for over 30 yrs - Every demographic one could imagine including Bikers - I remember a man and his wife who we all had come to love - they were at the farm 3-4 days a week for 5or 6 years - they sadly were in a fatal bike wreck , not far from the farm - I was little - but I loved Gene - We later found out he was - as we knew - in a club - a big club - At the funeral we found out he was the National President - This was in the early 1970s - These people loved my grandparents - Mamaw would not sell their horses by or let any of his buddies have them - evidently they had an agreement - Mamaw said " I did what he wanted me to do "
She found a home in Lexington for those 3 horses and I have no doubt they lived well -
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Loved your talk with hells angels
is Montreal yet another global be-careful location … and everybody else knows besides me?
wanted him to ask if you can wear a hells angels shirt or hat if your not a member? I ordered some nice shirts but hesitant on wearing them at the local bar. Any ideas
This is nuts because seeing him after all these years is very intriguing. My high school teacher had George Christy come into our classroom and speak on multiple occasions in Ventura. Our town was hard back then lots of gangs and the hells angels cleaned up the town per se
The intelligence of these two is astounding. So well spoken without speaking a damn thing. Well done gentlemen.
ya - such good role models... come on.
So glad to see Part 2 coming soon! Excellent interview, Michael! I’ve seen George Christie on several shows. He’s intelligent, articulate, interesting and has led a life so similar to yours. Great work!
I could listen to these guys talk for hours. You gotta appreciate listening to people like these guys
Mr. Franzese, this was an EXELLENT conversation. I can't wait for part 2.
Micheal I'm so glad that you turned your life into such a positive direction. For people to become motivated to be better people.
Two absolute gentleman. Class conversation. Lot of mutual respect. These guys are street guys at their core and it's fascinating to see the understandings they share without using words.
This was an awesome conversation. I got the vibe that both guys really enjoyed talking with one another and it made the conversation flow so smooth.
Definitely the case
Michael has always intrigued me since I was in highschool in the early 80's. I really enjoy his channel now
I could listen to these guys all day.
This is no doubt a great sit down. George seems like a genuine person & you both vibed off each other so well. You talked to each other like you are family members. Can't wait for part 2.
What does that say when a mafia and hells angel boss, sit together and critique the criminality of government. Surely this is food for thought.
Eat crow
Marsha Klein was also in the Hells Angels but she thrown out, lewd behaviour
Not for a nanosecond.
@@johngilmore697go cry more hahhaha you’re fragile awww 😢😢😢😢😢
US Federal government is the biggest and most well funded criminal organization in the world. Look at how many unjust, illegal wars that they have engaged in.
One of the best sit-downs ever. Christie is brilliant! So viewable.
Great conversation, you can see the mutual respect these two had for each other. Also, you can see the relief that they're both doing something else today
Mike traveled all over the world for 10+ yrs preaching, teaching, sharing his story. I was with him in Lompoc for 3 yrs. Super humble approachable guy is is exactly as he comes across on this channel. I think this was the best business decision he made so that he can be more effective and be a great husband
Best channel on tube 🎉🎉🎉
Great interview Michael and George. Lots of respect to both of you
Right arm George, you rock my man. Much love from Canada
True story about a Hells Angels encounter... I'm British with Italian heritage on my father side, as a consequence I really got into the old classic Italian Scooters and the smart "mod" way of dressing.
Back in the 90's when I was a teenager, a group of us teens were going to a scooter rally on the South Coast of England, which involved a long ride down there on our little scooters. Now vintage scooters don't go very fast, and whilst we were in the slow lane on a motorway (3 lane highway), a bunch of 15-20 guys on sports bikes, all dressed like Power Rangers thought it would be funny to come and take the p*ss out of our little scooters. They were riding inches away from us, giving us the bird & hand-job signals and generally being intimidating.
Next thing, we heard the unmistakable thrum of Harleys and turned round to see 5 patched up Hells Angels ride up from behind and then in amongst the group of sports bikes. We thought we were gonna get our heads kicked in, but it was the opposite. The Hells Angels basically got the Power Rangers to f*ck off, then rode with us (at our speed) to where we exited the motorway and gave us the thumbs up as we waved them goodbye.
The HA and us scooter kids looked the complete antithisis of each other, however, I like to think it was a shared love of our respective two wheel machines and the open road that made them to do what they did. They didn't have to take the time out to watch our backs and I've had immense respect to them to this very day.
Yeah, when you're not on the receiving end of a baseball bat, or when your sister is not being trafficked by them, or your brother is not ODing on some drugs they sold him, they're easy to respect.
Oh please save us the "tough but fair"-bullshit. There are countless examples of organized crime and just violence in general surrounding these people... any douchebag can smile and greet a neighbour it doesn't change anything.
I had a Vespa 250. Reed valve converersion that sounded like a KX 250 2 stroke. I was invited to a Christmas parade toy drive with the Mongols in Oklahoma. I went to the Chapter leaders shop, and he collected Harly scooters. You never know. They were cool with me even though I was on a Vespa. Mongols motorcycle shop was 50 yards from where I worked at the time. They loved that scooter. They let me know if I had a problem with someone, let them know.
I never had a problem because I knew sh*t wouldn't end well.
Wicked!👌🏼👍🏻
Most of them are decent guys, just do not fuk with them.
I am forever indebted to The Hells Angels. I don’t know how many years they helped families like mine in our community. Growing up, money was tight, but every Thanksgiving we had a huge family dinner, every Christmas we had a tree filled with presents and a big family dinner, every Halloween we had costumes, and so many other things that they did for us. They took care of our community and made sure we were protected.
To think how these guys have seriously turned their lives around for the better and even when they were the "bad guys", they were still less corrupt than today's politicians. They almost never leave their "life"
Much respect to these guys!
I love George’s stories
Respect brings respect for sure.... these interviews are so powerful.... thank you both for sharing this...
This is one of your better interviews, if not the best. You guys go back and forth very respectfully.
I'm from Oxnard. The Hells Angel's ran a club called Nicolbys in Downtown Ventura. The best club I've ever been in and they ran it smoothly.
Was it like the Double Duece in Roadhouse?
Ventura is such a beautiful micro beach town . Lived in Oxnard too. Downtown Oxnard 9th/B st. The gated townhomes, Now I'm in Utah , California just got crazy when it came to homes. I live in the mountains but I miss the Ocean too.
That place was called Zenon west before that I worked security. It was an 80’s new wave club.
First I need to explain I post on my husband Frank's RUclips acct! I don't know George, but was friends on Facebook with Sonny Barger and he did something that really touched my heart! Hubby and I don't have kids we rescue stray and abused animals and when one of our dogs crossed The Rainbow Bridge we received the kindest message from Mr. Barger and his wife! Gods speed to you both! Patricia Gambino Harrington
Gambino.....? My mom dated vince gambino in the 70's lmfao
Riveting interview...and it's obvious that Michael & George have genuine respect for each other. I could watch this conversation for hours.
One of your best Mike...casual and sincere back and forth..George looks great!
One time i was wating in a long ass lineup to get into a bar...i am disabled and in a wheelchair....next thing i know im getting a tap on the shoulder by a big ass biker...i look up and he goes how many are in your group...i say me and 3 friends....he goes ok come with me, saw right away he was HA....takes me to the front of the line...and pushes the bouncer to the side said go on in...i said can i buy you a drink he gave me a hand shake and said brother have a good night....coolest thing ever hahaha
George Christie JR. is my most favorite person. Love & appreciate him sharing/telling his story. He’s lived many lives.
I’ve been waiting for this colab for a while now, so I couldn’t be any more excited. Thanks for having him on. ❤️🙏🏽
Your favorite person?
@@Baseballnfj Within the community of storytellers & writers, yes, he is ONE of my favorites- of which I have many. My original comment was based in context of this very podcast episode.
My most favorite person is my father. In specific, my parents- just in case there was any confusion.
I don’t know Mr. Christie or Mr. Franzese personally, so the knowledge I have of them comes from what they’ve allowed us to know.
@@JenniferJayneJI've been digging Mikey Scars " no excuses " pod cast... Have you ever checked him out ?
@@Baseballnfj Lmao these people are sucking these 2 dudes off who probably killed people and ruined lives
Hey George I met you 45 years ago your the reason for my motorcycle addiction goodto see you again
My father in law was riding with the HAs in the 70s and was security that night the HAs had an incident at that concert that was legendary. They called him Skip. He himself is a legend RIP. He spoke highly of George Christie And Sonny Barger. Respect to the red and white.
did he diddle you too or just have you deal drugs for him?
I don't believe you. You're fibbing on RUclips.
@@Hillbillykaren No joke
I live about 20 mi from Altamonte
@@bigfootbushcraft2261 is Bigfoot hiding in your neighbors basement ?
I'm shocked that these 2 men have both left their previous lifestyles and survived. Glad to see they have turned their lives around.
It's cool to see you guys sit down together! Blessings to you guys for being changed men with alot to share.
What an amazing conversation about two different lifestyles, both legends of different worlds, both of these men hold a degree of respect most won’t understand! Awesome conversation!!
Michael, I love that you always give praise to our father🙏 and I really enjoy your pods❤
Amen.
Great back and forth, the government is going to watch both of you for life. Over 30 years ago they told me they was going to watch me for life and they have done what they say. The code of silence has been the reason why, i think. Your show has me hooked
It’s hilarious to me that you have a former mafia boss and hell’s Angels chieftain being more honest than your average politician.
Hell's Angels president, but yea.
How do you know they’re being honest? Are you a mind reader?
They keep saying they were framed. That they were innocent. All criminals say that.
They even complain that the government doesn’t play fair.
These 2 played fair in their criminal lives?
@@karagi101
I have been a victim of law enforcement/government overreach.
@@SteveD-us7re OK… How does that tell us if they are honest or not?
@@karagi101
Have you heard Michael's other podcasts?
He says that Rudy Guiliiani caught him fair and square.
James Comey of the FBI has now been exposed as circumventing due process.
Thanks Michael! Thanks George! Very educational. Have a Blessed Day!!
Great conversation going on. Alot of similarities between the two lives.
Thank you for sharing 👍
Remember he came to the school i graduated from,on many occasions. He was at my graduation and he was randomly pictured in one of my graduation photos when i was walking off of the stage. At the time, I didn't know him,or cared to know him, he was just a random guy at the time (in my eyes). Graduated from NHS. We have a movie/documentary that made it to IMDb called "Love Goes Public". About 2 years after i graduated high school (i graduated in 2014), i realized how big he was and who he were. To this day i can't believe he came to the school i graduated from on (many) occasions. NHS was like a performing arts schools disguised as a public school. We had campus for life, we went on trips for free, every Friday, we got tickets to Auburn games for free. At the time,our principal son played for Auburn university with Cam Newton,then they went to the NFL. Our principal would always get her son to bring the Auburn stars to our school and set up basketball games with them. We also played grade vs grade basketball,6th vs 7th grader, 8th vs 9th you get the point.We had people that was currently during life in prison come up to the school and talk with us, (supervised of course). Looking back, I realized i didn't soak up everything I could've have and how special the school is that i graduated from.
Michael told the entrie school so many stories in the auditorium. He had the entire school locked into his grasp.Idk if it was because the things he did, and witnessed but the teachers and students was in awe.
To this day, i still don't know how my school got him to come speak and hang around with us, even came to our graduation in 2014. One day (a few years after highschool), i seen a video of him and my mouth dropped,i was thinking to myself (THAT'S THE GUY!!!!!)This video had over a million views i think. It was then, when i realized who he was, how big he was and couldn't believe he came to our school on many occasions and he came to our graduation in 2014.
I regret not knowing who he was at the time and the "Mafia" was irrelevant to me, but I was slightly familiar with it. I know he's not the biggest known celebrity in the world, but it was an honor to meet him. He done terrible things he's not proud of , but he's a changed man and i wish i can meet him through as an adult eyes.So many questions I could've asked. Who he is on video is exactly the same man that came to our school about 10 years ago. He's a good guy, i wish i knew how my school pulled this off, he's a great pubic speaker and he's good with children and teenagers .I hope God keep on blessing this man .
Absolutely need more with this man, one of the best episodes yet!
I love when George says in some interviews,” The hell’s angels is not a criminal organization, it’s an organization with criminals in it… ha ha ha … this is not a coffee cup it’s a cup that holds coffee.. ha ha ha
I absolutely loved listening to ya`ll. My next door neighbor was in the Hells Angles. Coolest man I have ever met.
Wow, I was completely locked in the entire 40 minutes...This is an absolutely incredible conversation to sit and watch.
Thank you gentlemen for putting this together!
This was such an interesting interview Mike. I hope you both do more interviews. I could sit and listen to you both talk all day.
Great pod...sucked me in for the whole thing...thanks for the hr.
Great interview Mr. Franzese. Hope you are doing well :)
He’s the man that would tell you, like my father once told me, “I forgot more than you know”
Been wanting the book Mafia Democracy and noticed it is sold out....Hope we can get it back in stock one day. Loved the Sitdown and I always find Michaels videos top notch. George Christie is very interesting to listen too.
When a corporation doesn’t pay taxes it’s called a tax break, when a gangster doesn’t pay taxes it’s called tax evasion. -Nobody Important
I like this quote but it's not as black and white as you put it. In a world where those corporations aren't being used to the benefit of the government and society, I'd say yeah that shows hypocrisy. However, it's not as simple as that since the government is collecting from corporations that it can interact with more so than the mafia for instance in the shadows.
I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this but here's my opinion of the nuance between a corporation and a criminal organization: The oil/gas corporations who provide a service to the nation by providing a valued commodity are benefitting the nation economically in areas that outweigh any tax break they might receive. Now an example from organized crime not paying taxes: they earn money through extortion, skimming profits from legitimate businesses, and worse. I'm not even including the more dramatic methods of profits such as drugs/prostitution.
Can you not see the difference between the value that both contribute to society as a whole and why a tax break and tax evasion from illicit activities are not even in the same neighborhood of eachother in terms of relevance.
I’d like to know both Michael’s and Nobodyimportant’s opinion on this. From what I understand the reason of that is because supposedly the government awards corporations for providing jobs and other things for communities or society as a whole across the United States.
@@Quickshotted you actually believe that bullshit? I bet you believe 9-11 was done by a bunch of men in caves and Iraq had WMDs, well, other than the ones the US gave Iraq in the 80s to use on the Iranians. As George Carlin would say, “it’s one big club and you ain’t in it.”
@@Quickshottedyou are correct. A tax break is when the company is going to create hundreds plus jobs. For example a few years ago, Amazon was going to open a factory in New York, creating 25,000 jobs. So the state and city offered them tax breaks as an incentive to come to New York. That’s how every state , government works. All the way down to the local city council.
It’s not a tax break for ever. It’s typically for a couple years. This helps the company to build the factory and hire employees, before they have to pay a large tax. Corporations and large companies pay lots of tax. The left are delusional when they claim, Elon, or Jef, doesn’t pay taxes.
Elon, paid 5 billion in taxes. They have loopholes that help with not paying 💯 of their tax. That’s the same benefits all businesses have. Id tomorrow you open a donut shop. You get to right items off your taxes, that your neighbor that works a job doesn’t. If that wasn’t the case no one could afford to start a business.
Amazon, didn’t open the factory, because AOC, made people protest. They went to another state and New York citizens didn’t get the 25,000 jobs.
Michael, was actually taking money meant for tax purposes and using it for their group.
It would be similar if you didn’t pay state taxes. His businesses brought in money to launder, and found away to profit of the tax meant for the state.
That’s if I understood what he was describing in the video.
People that cry about corporations or wealthy people getting tax breaks has no clue about economics, or owning a business. Without companies like Amazon, Tesla, google, Apple, etc. hundreds of millions of people would be unemployed.
It's even worst than that. If the criminal tries to pay taxes, it's called "money laundering". So the criminal is screwed either way.
I've never sat and listened to something so intently as this sit down.. The time flew by and I'm left yearning for an episode 2.
You know, the internet has brought alot of negativity into this world I think, but this conversation is a gem of knowledge. It's mindblowing that now, you can get theses types of conversation between two genuine "organise crime" guys. It gives you alot facets you would not have ben given before the internet.
What a great interview.
Of all your episodes this is probably one of my favorites.
I have been dreaming about this sit down. Not going to miss it!
I think it's valuable when people like Michael point out the flaws with the justice system, and how there are people who feel the need to break the law in order to uphold the law, they feel the need to weaponize the system to go after people they don't like. It's quite revealing when even former members of the mafia can recognize the mafia-like enterprise that plagues our country today. But for us Christian men it should come as no surprise, you can't change human nature, but what you can do is accept responsibility over your own life, and model yourself after somebody who is free of these flaws.
This was GREAT ! Can't wait for Part 2
This has been by far my favorite sit-down.
This interview was SO interesting! The similarities and differences... He's an excellent speaker as a guest. Can't wait to see part 2!!
Thanks Michael, one great video after another ! God bless 🙏 🙂 Paulie from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
Just in time for lunch. Thank you Michael!
So you’ve got one gentleman who was the head of one of the biggest MCs known to man, and another who was a high ranking member of a huge family in the Italian mob…this is excellent.
Great video Mr Franzese as usual! keep them coming. From New Zealand
Ditto , Paul
The "PODFATHER" is back!!💯
If I ever create a podcast I might have to steal that.
@@tylergrey7985 Ha ha steal away bro😂🤣
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Big fan of Micheal Franzese! God bless You Sir!
Fascinating conversation I can't wait for part two! Much respect for you gentlemen!! Thank you 💛
Thank you, Michael! Cannot wait part 2
Man, what peace Michael has knowing Jesus and being saved. Great to see.
Another fascinating episode! God bless to you and your family!
Our government is just so scary seeing his corrupt it is at times. There needs to be more independent investigations into these politicians.
I love how these two me can have a talk like men and share a message of life that you can overcome your past and be a example that God has got a plan for everyone 🙏
Respect to Michael and Family. From PGH.
I hate the hypocrisy of government. They should be prosecuted for committing crimes too.
Yup never happen tho tho government is the biggest mob ever
They keep it up we'll have to skip prosecution. When your taxes pay for child trafficking I find it hard to not draw the line at that alone
Vote for smaller government.
I hate the hypocrisy of whiners who complain that others were successful in life while THEY failed!🙄
@@DrBaronMunchausen except there are some 300+ million Americans ALL wanting something different from government! This WILL by definition create big government!
Used to chat with George quite a bit and see him at clubs, etc. He has always been a great and respectful person to be around. Great to see him doing well. Hope to run into him again someday.