.357 Magnum Showdown! 158 Grain Remington HTP vs 158 Grain PPU, Ballistic Gel Test!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Testing some .357 Magnum Remington HTP & PPU hollow point defensive rounds, using the Taurus model 608 revolver! A tough to find caliber during the ammo shortage.
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Given my 15-21" standard, the Remington HTP did very near the optimum depth and the slower PPU overpenetrated. That extra velocity means more energy was dumped in that 19" the HTP did, but I have to admit a bias toward Remington anyway. I am glad to see them back in production of the .357.
I figured you would like this test. I remember you mentioning the HTP's. They definitely did an amazing job.👍
@@ToolsandTargets You are right on top of it when people mention stuff. And that makes us really appreciate your work.
The lead is softer in the remington ammunition.
I have that ppu loaded in all my 357 wheel guns ! 3”-6”bbl it’s also very accurate to boot !
The Remington HTP for defense against two legged predators & the PPU for four legged predators.
Sounds like a good plan!😎👍
I wasn't expecting the PPU to perform nearly as good as the HTP's
Me either.
Love the video. You have rediscovered the wheel. The RP 158 SJHP was the King from the 70s to the 90s. It's obvious why. I carried a 4" Security Six with RP 125, 140, &158 SJHP & never felt insecure. The pre-flash suppressed loadings were hilariously overwhelming on both ends. Thanks!
Thank you sir. It's definitely some fantastic stuff!
125 grain .357 is a nasty and rude load out of anything shorter than 6". But it was without a doubt a hell on wheels stompin stopper back in the 80s before the high capacity automatics started stealing the show. I carried a couple different 4" Security Six Ruger's as my do it all guns back then. My usual load was Federal 125s but after I tried the Winchester 145 grain Silvertip I went with the Silvertip. It was just a better mannered load to shoot. My primary field loads were commercial 158 grain cast SWCs at 850 to about 1000 FPS. Slow ones in .38 Spec. brass and the fast ones were in .357 brass. Served me well back in the day.
I think both rounds performed great. Generally, weight retention helps in penetration. But, as long as a round gets sufficient penetration, as these two rounds did, weight retention doesn't really matter. Another great video 👍
Thank you sir.😎👊
Those Remington HTP 158s really shine through a 6" Ruger GP100 revolver.
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I like the Remington Jacketed hollow point.one of my Favorite rounds is the 357 In my opinion, the 357 is a 9 mm stopper.thanks for another great video
Thank you sir.😎👊
I’d probably go with the HTP since I’ve got a 4” 28-2, but if I were say going to say hunt with a 6” gun, the PPU might get a little deeper. I feel like the added velocity would result in faster expansion and less penetration, but that’s just a semi-educated guess.
I'd have to agree with that hypothesis!👍
👍👍I really like those HTPs, been using them for a while in 125gr & 158gr. No problem for me if it dumps lead along the way as long as it penetrates like it did.
They brought the pain for sure!
Both did good Remington dumped a bunch of energy ppu kept its mass and kept pushing … I would hunt with either… if I had to choose I would go with the least expensive 👍🏼
Definitely can't go wrong with either.
This is about what one could expect out of almost anything .357 Magnum, it is still the round most others are compared to. I would rather a little too much penetration than not enough. Either one will do just fine in my opinion. Thanks for everything you do and have a good one brother, I will see you on the next one.
.357 don't play! Appreciate you my friend!
That’s what she said.
Do you test any snubnosed 357 revolvers? Just wondering how my SP101 2 1/2 inch would perform with 125 grain jacketed hollowpoints !!!!
125 SJHP Remington is the bomb! My carry stuff
.357 Doesn't mess around.👍
@@ToolsandTargets check out ScubaOZ on the 125s
Since both did well I would buy the one that was most affordable.
Agreed.
Hey brother great info. I’ve got a GP 100 6” and a Marlin L/A in 357mag and they both eat the 158s in PPU. I notice the inconsistency on the chronograph with the PPU, perhaps that might explain why they aren’t as accurate as some others I’ve tried.... $309/500 down here on the prison island. Anyhow great test,great content agen, catch you on the next one 👍🇦🇺🏁😉
Awesome......still living free down under! I've been getttong worried about you guys down there with the COVID Nazis....stay strong.
Nice! I really wanna pick up a lever gun in .357. Got my eye on a Winchester 1892 Trapper model.
I Love HTP in my Shield 2.0 9mm. Very accurate in my gun. It's my carry ammo. If I could find it again in the stores, at a reasonable price, I would be happy as a lark. Nice seeing the 357m
Thank you sir. This HTP did fantastic.👍
damn, 50 years after it was invented, the Rem SJHP is still damn near King even today...
It definitely got it done.👍
As usual another great test comparison👌.357 my favorite.Real stopping power.I am and always will be a big fan of Remington ammo so the HTP gets my vote but, they both seem good as you said.Always love to see a magnum taring up some jell😁.Till next time ...Stay safe , Stay well my friend
Thank you sir. .357 is always a party starter!👍
About what I expected out of a 357 magnum!! Complete devastation and penetration not to many things gonna shake off one of those hits except maybe a dinosaur
Yessir!💥🦖🦕💥
ARGUMENTUM IN ABSURDUM: It's all about placement. If a grizzly can be stopped with a .22 long hit half way between the eye and the ear, I think a blue whale would be stopped with a shot through the eye with a .357. A bear is about 3 feet across and a blue whale is about 16. The largest dinosaur was smaller than the largest blue whale. The dinosaur brains were notoriously small, so it might be hard to hit their medulla oblongata. Some think the largest living relative of the dinosaur is the saltwater crocodile, but I think the North African Ostridge is a closer relative. I would say 36 inches is near the maximum depth of penetration, even for .357 rifles. If there was or is a species with a medula oblongata deeper than that, I am not aware of it. Personally, if I were hit by a BB in the eye, I would not be able to "shake off one of those hits."
Those 357 mags make the jelly quiver .
Yes they do!
Tools, it’s like to came and looked at my gun safe and do the testing of the calibers I have and care about. .22, .22mag, .45acp and .357. Thanks for the all the hard work and info, keep up the good work.
Pay no attention to that red blinking light in the corner of your closet!😜
Haha, I thought that light was new
.357 round is no joke just like the .44 but from what I heard it doesn't look like they're trash so it's good to know that if I see them at a decent price I'll probably grab some. Appreciate the jelly test!!
Thank you sir. I need to do some .44 mag tests too. Haven't done any of that in quite a while.👍
This is great! Thank you for the video. I bought a few of those 50 round count PPU's in 158 gr. .357 magnum right as the scamdemic was getting ramped up. (I could see the writing on the wall.) I think I payed $18.00 a box or so? To this very moment over a year later I still haven't seen a test on it until now. My good fortune indeed! What do I think about the lead shedding? I like it. It's common in SJHP magnums. I'd take either round. Thanks again for the video.
Very nice buy! I didn't get mine for near that cheap, but I did pick up several boxes of them. Glad to see they do a great job.👍
The PPU seems like it would be an excellent round for hunting whitetail with a revolver, but probably has too much penetration for defensive use in civilized areas. The HTP looks like it would be a solid defensive round, though.
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Have had just about every caliber over the years and my favorites were 357 and 44... the 357 is all time favorite
.357 is too much fun!
@@ToolsandTargets exactly
I've said In the comments before, Remington got it right way back when they first designed these SJHP bullets.and the "Fragspansion" as you refer to it is their greatest attribute. I've used these on game for many years and never been disappointed! The damage they do in gel, as impressive as it is doesn't begin to compare to what they do in live tissue. And it's been my experience that that small shank that has shed so much weight can be counted on to continue to drive deep and straight.
PPU 158g flat nose FMJ is my go to round. 1400fps out of muzzle with 900 foot pounds per square inch.
I carry that Remington HTP 158 grain 357 mag in my concealed carry Taurus 605 revolver and from what I can tell from everybody who gel tests it. It generates phenomenal expansion and wound cavity! Couldn’t feel more confident with this round!
Definitely a powerhouse!
Great video! They are both good rounds, but I would choose the HTP due to expansion and lesser penetration. Thanks for the test Tools 😀
Thank you sir. Definitely makes sense.👍
I love the ppu. Often times i find it for sale cheaper than fmj. I bought about 500 for 61 cents a round
A 125 grain magnum comparison would be illuminating.
I can definitely do that. I have quite a few in 125.👍
I had a good time going back in time watching all these if for some reason I did. I’m here to see what those ppu ballistics were, just bought 2 ppu 158 and PMC soft points that for some reason both my guns shoot it accurately too, and seemed to burn super clean I was impressed
.357 mag aint no joke.
There is a reason you don’t see any videos of multiple shots being required to stop an assailant with full power .357mag on the internet. 158s are Devastating. It would be interesting to see 158 underwood or Buffalo Bore at 25 or 50 yards out of the python vs 9mm anything out of the G17 at your normal range.
It's Jelly Time: Magnum Edition!
If I had to vote for one it would be the Remington cuz it looked like it slapped that jelly the hardest lol.
It definitely made the jelly jiggle!💥
Dude those were some impressive wound channels were amazing there for both. Shew doggy, I’m a 10mm guy, and it is a little stouter loaded properly obviously. But these .357/.44 and I’d even throw the .41mag in there if you wanted another powerful revolver round.
Yessir. Like little grenades going off.💥😎💥
I would be happy FINDING either of those! lol! I have seen the HTPs in 38+P probably do pretty good too i bet! I like em both! Was hoping to see some of the 357 PMC BRonze JHP you got a while back too. Thanks for your informative testing once again! Take it easy!
Did I get .357 PMC Bronze? I'm forgetting what I even have.😂
YES I remember they was JHP and was under $30 for 50 haha i think close to $25 (I could be wrong on that price but they was cheap) I have been looking for some ever since! lol
Both are excellent rounds and i love the 357 one of my favorite hand guns....i would definitely use either one of t hose for self defense and the loss of weight is gonna be inside the enemy anyway so i dont think it would matter ....i would use both.
Good point, It's gonna weigh the same one way or another!😆
Load with both. Let the surgeon decide which did the better job.
Great video Tools! Would it be possible to get some 44 magnum gel tests?
I can definitely do that. Been a while since I did anything with .44 mag.👍
Wow great results there. I have some target loads right about 1250fps and they are pretty stout!
.357 Mag means business for sure.👍
I never could understand why so many folks are crazy concerned about "overpenetration" hitting "innocent bystanders ". You have to know what is behind your target. Missing is a lot bigger concern than overpenetration in the real world. And third, i like through and through wound channels. You have just created double the hydraulic failure orifices with a through and through wound.
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The HTP is what I carry. It's about as optimum as a SD round as you can get.
Appreciate your time tonight thanks, Nibs
Anytime my friend! Let me know if you need any help!😎👍
The HTP is the clear choice due to penetration & wound channel unless your defending against a bear.. then the extra depth with the PPU may be better
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Tools and targets folks, your source for practical ammunition testing and reviews
Thank you sir.
Man I bought a 856 Taurus...That's such a cool model you have...I knew I shoulda kept doing research
Picked up some of those HTPs today... The only 357 hollow point in this area and I got the last box, sad. I was like, let's find a test online, and sure enough my go to guy had one, of course. Thanks brother, you never disappoint. I know that round won't either in my 3 inch.
Gotta love some .357 mag.😎👊
I think both the rounds are great! I wonder if that goes the same with any of those rounds from PPU? I kind of lean more towards the shrapnel just because if they survive they will make metal detectors go off 😆
I tested some .38 special Monarch (PPU) that didn't do good at all. May as well make sure their lead levels are good.😆
my neighbor gave me a box of those HTP 158gr 357 last week so I had to revisit this video! :D Im glad to have a little of that! Did a lot better than the 45 ACP version for sure! thank ya sir!
Yep, totally different story with this versus the .45.
Excellent! Always considered 158 gr. to be the standard for.357 mag. Would much appreciate a test of the Rem. 125 gr. Load.
That old Remington bullet does open up. Im sitting on some 125s in that style. I don't trust that weight for deer hunting really. I doubt the penetration to be fully adequate for hunting purposes given the expansion and fragmentation. Think I will stick with the heavier 158s anytime deer might be on the menu.
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Brian (Tools) is my trusted authority for ammunition testing.
I'll load the Remmies in my gun if I have my druthers. All that shed material is going to be tearing stuff up as well as the main projectile. Fragments and shrapnel are good with me!
Built in tenderizer.👍
Great results from both. Would probably get even more expansion out of my Ruger with 6.5" barrel. Nice test!
I bet so. Thank you sir.😎
Do you conceal carry that Ruger? I am looking for more ways to carry a 6.75" barrel revolver.
@@JohnLloydScharf Nope, I have several 9mm's that are better suited. Even my 1911 is more easily concealed. 357 & 44 mag's are for hunting & home defense.
@@ronaldperkins4222, no offense, but I carry a .357 in my pocket. I do not have anything more concealable and I have more than one pocket/"micro" 9mm. Not even a CW9 Kahr conceals better.
Everything I own under 26" is concealable on some level. Some are less comfortable. If I could carry a semi-auto 12 gauge in my pocket, I would have self-defense rounds for it. I can conceal an 8 round .357, but I'd rather not try that in summer.
If they made an 8 round .357 with a tungsten frame less than 6" OAL, I would have one in each front pants pocket because it would cut recoil. I strictly carry for defense and all firearms do that. My home defense is 12 gauge 2 oz loads of turkey shot to prevent overpenetration.
I have rifles, shotguns, pistols, and revolvers. NOT ONE of them is for hunting. I had a whole herd of white tail deer in my yard during hunting season just outside the city limits and not the least desire to shoot one. I would rather eat mudbugs, alligator, goat, snake, or buffulo bought in a store than venison.
The first day I hunted I dropped a pheasant flushed up with a headshot from my 410. I have dropped a duck at 100 yards. I have been within 9 feet of elk and deer. I have taken pictures of wild goats within rock throwing distance. I have had a large buck running at me on the road where I stood.
No offence, but there is no sport in killing for me and it costs more to hunt in the woods than it does in a meat department. I leave the wild game for subsistence hunters.
@@JohnLloydScharf No offense taken. Just a difference of opinion shaped by one's background, experience, & personal situation. I'm a farm boy raised on our home grown Black Angus beef, pork from our swine herd, home grown chickens, & pheasants shot in our & neighbors' fields. When that last package of beef came out of the freezer, my dad would complain about having to buy crappy store bought beef until our next steer was ready to slaughter. There IS a difference; a big one. Venison is a bonus.
I live in an old farm house, nearest neighbor is a mile away with a thick stand of trees in between. I could use my M1 Garand for defense if desired, but opt for a couple of 9mm's & a 12 ga. loaded with 00 buckshot @ bedside.
I served as a US Army Combat Medic & have treated all manner of wounds. I quickly learned that shot placement trumps caliber in most cases. As I said, depends on your situation. If your self defense weapon is comfortable for you, then you made the right choice. Have a good one. 🙂
Now do the Remington htp 125 grain vs the underwood 357 mag ammo. I’d love to see that compared
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That PPU might make a nice round to stock up on for in the ammo cans. Was it a fair bit cheaper than Remington htp? Nice video
Thank you sir. Way cheaper.👍
The temporary wound channel on the HTP was much bigger than the PPU. Massive energy dump. HTPs are what I run in my 3 inch 357.
Got a new .357 I'm gonna go Tuesday to test out.😎👊
Both rounds performed nicely. Use the Remington HTP in my lever gun. Thanks for the video Tools!
Appreciate ya, brother!
I love the repore of those shots off the hills in that area, sounds so good.
Yeah, the old mic I used to use didn't pick it up nearly as good as this one.😎
I like the buffalo bore 158 grain jhp. They would smoke any other 357 on the market. Unless something came out new i havent heard of. My edc is a 9mm but on my weekend adventures when im around the woods n water im packing my 6 inch GP 100 357. Id like to see a test o. Them HTPs in a snubby.
I need to pick up a snubby .357 to test with.👍
Gotta love this channel was on Midway thinking about buying the HTPs but as always I can turn to Tools so see the results and performance before I buy I swear I buy my ammo around his videos 😂 best channel out there much respect
Love the video tools I think they both performed well I have a Taurus 605 with a shorter Barrel wonder how they would perform out of the 2-inch Barrel also tools it's almost the end of the year we need to get together and have another live chat I love talking with all the guys and gals in the live chats
I wanna get a 605 for testing purposes. I'm thinking I may do a live next Saturday.👍
@@ToolsandTargets live will be awesome hope you can im looking forward to chatting
Great test tools...been curious about HTP's I appreciate ya man.
Thank you sir.😎👊
I checked my local dunhams out today they didn't have much they did have #41 small rifle primers for 8.99 per sleeve. I bought two sleeves for some reason.
Better than not having any to load with. If I needed em, i'd pay it.🤷♂️
@@ToolsandTargets well I don't even load anything with small rifle primers lol
Great video and I’m probably going to take the Remington,
You need to test the Winchester ranger t in 357 Magnum the bullets are still coating with the original Black talon coating
That coating means nothing. The T Series are an improvement over Black Talons in every way and they still suck. Read the history of them and it will explain the differences.
PPU defense line 10mm 180grain just picked up a couple would love to see it out of your model 20 since it’s the closest thing to my xdm-10 😂 but this was an awesome video as well. What’s your home state? But keep it up 👍🏽 jason from North Carolina
I'll have to have a look for those. I think the only 10mm PPU I have is flat nose solid 170 grain. 10mm is tough to find right now.😣
@@ToolsandTargets check out midway USA underwood in stock for a relatively good deal compared to other sites charging $3 a shot that’s ridiculous
The PPU 158 grain FPJ is advertised at 1600 FPS. That's gotta be tested from a 6" or carbine; right? I shouldnt expect that type of performance out of my 4" Taurus 65 should I? Yikes! I just got a .357 magnum so idk about that recoil LOL. I bought 3 boxes of the stuff too.
Remington used to call those scalloped jacketed hollow points. Good reputation in 125 grain hollow points.
They definitely did the trick this time.👍
That .357 aint no joke sheeesh. Another good test in the books sir. Im glad i ordered some PPU the other day.✊
Vicious caliber.👍
A little less penetration would be good. Maybe a 3" barrel would be good, a little less velocity, little less weight loss, probably more expansion as it looks like these over-expanded to the point of loosing lead. Would be a nice test. Best ccw revolver in my opinion when not needing something very small is the s&w 686+ 3". Easily concealed, especially in winter.
3" is definitely a nice intermediate size.👍
Wow, great test. I will be looking for the PPU due to the weight retention !! Thanks !!
Thank you sir. It's some good stuff no doubt!
The porting on your Taurus doesn't seem to have any adverse effect on velocity. I have that Remington load in my 4.2" GP100 amy 2" K6s DASA.
Nice.😎
Nothing wrong with the Remington shedding weight. People love 125 grain bullets in .357. Besides, it retains about the same percentage of weight as a Nosler Partition.
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Revolvers,,,,,,,, oh yes. Especially in .357. MY FAVORITE WEAPON AND LOADS TO CARRY. I DO LOVE THE BLACK HILLS HONEYBADGER ROUND MYSELF
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Just tested the Honey Badgers in .380. Will be posting that soon.
@@ToolsandTargets do the .38+p also from Honeybadger by Black Hills ammo company if you could please.
Your Taurus 608 generates about the same velocities like 4 ich no-ported gun. Interesting.
It's a great revolver. Easily the favorite one I own.
Maybe you can do a .357 and 10mm smack down! Use the same brand and bullet type in fresh jelly. Preferrably using Speer Gold Dot since that's what God carries!.
It's always fun to see that comparison.
Hmmm, not a bad idea.
I wonder if those ppu defence lines are similar to the the 158 grain sjhp blue box PPU versions .. do you get those in the States ?
Another great video Tools really enjoyed this one and by the way I finally found some Federal Punch at the local shop can't wait to use them on my channel.
Thank you sir. Awesome that you found some!
Are you planning on doing a test with a snub-nosed revolver anytime soon ? I carry a S&W Model 649 as an EDC. I am interested in the levels of penetration and expansion coming out of 2-inch barrel.
I have done some recently from a 2" taurus. I also have two on the list for my next batch of testing.😎👍
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Sounds great
Looking forward to seeing your upcoming video !
Another great test! Went to a gun show today and saw those Aguila 45 LC cowboy loads you were talking about at Dunhams. $150 for 50.! Saw some reasonable prices, and some like that.
Thanks! Holy Moly, I'm glad I went back yesterday and grabbed a couple boxes of those from Dunham's then!
@@ToolsandTargets For us new to .45 LC, that makes us happy too.
Thanks for testing this I have the same HTP’s wonder how they will do out of a 686-6 with a 2.5” barrel?
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Damn that 357mag was echoing in them hollers
It definitely gives ya some nice sound effects.😎👊
Run both out of a Ruger 77. .357 Magnum 158gr handgun loads do more work in a rifle. .357 Magnum 158gr loads that are built for 18' rifles do A LOT more work. Never loaded 125gr. Might try that.
Hey TOOLS! Pretty close, but the Remington would leave a bigger mess.
Need a shovel to clean it up!💥💥💥
Nice test! Impressed with both of those. Was wondering if you’ve done any testing on Remington Golden Sabre’s?
I have in 9mm. My local shop has them in stock in .45acp. May pick some up to test.
Thanks Tools both brands worked well.
Yessir. I think either one would do the trick.
So I’m curious because I loaded PPU in my 16in R92 lever action and it cycles fine. I just wonder what the ballistics would be out of a lever action
I'm glad you do these to show what's what. Your saving people so much money with a little education. :) Salute and Thank you Tool's.
Appreciate you always watching and commenting brother! Have a great weekend!
@@ToolsandTargets :) Love what you do. keep the Awesome videos coming. Cheers my friend.
Great test. Both are worth the price & performed well. I just wonder what some of our LEO guys & girls think about them. Most of us hopefully won't ever use them but it would be nice to know what they think might be best. Appreciate you & everybody that keeps us safe & free.
Thank you brother. I'm very curious to see what those Hexagons you sent me will do. I've been trying to find something the same weight to test em with.
@@ToolsandTargets I had to check when I saw the PPU Defense & I had a box. Glad I didn't waste my money like I did on their 38s. 😆 Odd thing is the 357 Monarch PPU 158s not Defense are listed at about 300fps faster. Did they lie to us? Guess I will just hang onto my 1 Magic Do All Barney Fife bullet. Thanks.
@@ToolsandTargets Got a Guns & Ammo magazine in mail which 1 article was about Taurus revolvers. Didn't have the 608 or 627 listed. Thought now they've pissed me & Tools both off. Love my 627. Do you carry 2 of the 608s or just 1? 😃
@@billdye3530 I gotta get a second one so I can Akimbo these bad boys!💥👈😎👉💥
@@ToolsandTargets Carry PPU in one & HTP in the other. Brilliant minds think alike. Lol
Great video. I just got a box of pmc jsp 158 grain and norma defense 158 grain I'm wanting to try. Not sure because I just inherited the the ol colt trooper mk3 6inch which one it's gonna like.
Thank you sir. That'll be fun.😎👊
Both will work for deer. For defence a bit to much penetration. My defence loads are 125 gr jhp at about 1400 fps. Much more expansion and penetration.
This is in case the bad guy is plus size!😉
Wondering a little on the Remington if that batch was from the old company or newly owned? Be nice to see if any difference between older & new. Quality control. Never get to old to learn. 👴
I'd say these are from the new one but not positive. I think I got em right around the time that Vista took over so hard to say.🤔
@@ToolsandTargets So far I think they are doing good with no issues. Hired more people than they had before. It's good. Hope guns are as good as ammo. That new R1 double stack looks nice.
I think new....they updated the packaging and it looks new.
@@rsbreeze Didn't notice much muzzle flash on either. Wonder if possibly it's a different powder on Remington. Does a good job.
@@billdye3530 some of my favorite. 357 ammo is the 125g SJHP. I got a bunch of boxes from my wife's uncle who was a border patrol agent. They carried that in their service weapons for many years and he had a pretty big stash when he retired. I'm still shooting it for hunting javelina!
Awesome testing Bro, finally a comprehensive test on PPU 158grn jhp 357mag. Seeing you got 24" I definitely am not worried about snubie usage, frankly I prefer the $$$ paid for the case of ppu pre Wuhan Flu
Yessir. Appreciate you checkin it out!
Both of Them will Work, they penetrated more than I thought they would, glad I bought some before the PlanDemic, Good Test Brother Tools KEEP'EM COMING 🇺🇸
Thank you sir. That .357 Mag powah!💥💥
The real question is would you rather use the one that penetrates really really deep or the one that penetrates really deep and expands a little more
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Good video and comparison. Both were good rounds. Thanks for the video
Thank you sir. They both woke the jelly up!
I don't have a .357 magnum yet...
But I would like those Rems. I think it will be ok💥🔥
.357 is a nice round.👍
HTP for the win! The energy dump in the first 10 inches does it for me. But the Colt still has Black talons in it.
Black Talons are the Alpha loads!💥💥💥
@@ToolsandTargets Back in the day I picked up a case of 357 and 44 magnum.
@@steveb6103 Nice! All I have been able to find the T Series in is 9mm and .45acp.😆
I need to get me a 357 magnum. Just saying scares me. Lol. What a great round. Both of these bullets performed well in my opinion. Great video tool. Thanks.
Thank you sir. .357 Mag is too much fun!
That is decent bullet performance, but as with the 10mm, I have standards when it comes to .357 Mag, and I just can't think of a single reason why a 158 gr JHP should not scoot out of a 4 inch barrel doing at least 1400 fps. I miss "real .357." My grandpa had a 158 gr Sierra trucking out of a 4 inch Ruger at 1500 fps, and if the bullet missed, the blast and flash would surely convince most they done fucked up. Our grandpa's .357 was a fire breathing monster compared to the neutered shit the call .357 today.